Budget Oops
Can't quite bring ourselves to blame Rahm for this one - not completely:
- Chicago will borrow the $78.4 million needed to compensate nearly 6,000 African-American would-be firefighters bypassed by the city’s discriminatory handling of a 1995 entrance exam, Mayor Rahm Emanuel said Tuesday, compounding the cost of a settlement that’s already twice as high as anticipated.
Emanuel said the city anticipated the higher-than-expected tab and tucked it away into a general obligation bond issue normally reserved for infrastructure repairs and equipment purchases. General obligation bonds are backed by property taxes.
Since Chicago is self-insured against most claims, settlements are normally paid for with funds set aside in the city’s judgment fund.
We will however, blame Rahm for failing to prioritize. Spending $55 million on a park tribute while the city verges on bankruptcy? Bad idea. Along with a few dozen other instances of pretending money grows on trees.
Labels: money questions
posted by SCC at 12:33 AM
95 Comments:
Were they qualified? If they were, hire them now. Stop paying extra money. Put the people that discrimninated aginast them into jail. End of story. Stop paying reparations, waaah pay me because my feeling were hurt.
America
Yeah how about it!
So much for that: "we will not raise taxes", the budget is based upon an expanding economy.
HA...Google Dow Chemical, Dupont, the lists goes on, even the IMF and White House are projecting slower growth.
Anyways..
What does that come out to about $12,000 per applicant if they just broke up the money evenly?
Yet we know the lawyers will get in there and get a big chunk of that.
Not a lot of money if you're the one that got stiffed out of a fireman's job.
St Maggie of Chicago deserves a park in her honor at our expense. In her time on earth she did so much with other peoples money, both private and public.
does that mean as a white guy i can get 500k for being passed over for promotion because of affirmitive action??? this is bullshit.
What about the non Blacks that Scored poorly on that ridiculous test,They didnt cry like bitches and play the Race card,Pathetic Story.
how about all the money that was spent buying up half of bensenville so they could build another runway at ohare that nobody needs anymore--- if I ran my household like the city does we would be living in the car and begging for money--- piss poor fiscal management and the only answer is to stick it to the already beat to death property owners....
Guess what moochelle obamma... I'm no longer proud to be an american. The ultra dumbing down of america.
They need to generate income by selling alley rats for food. This could be the new green, low carbon footprint solution that picks up where Solyndra failed.
If everyone used alley rats for a protein source, they could clean up the city and pay for all the corruption at the same time. School lunch programs wouldn't cost as much and if they douse the rat meat with whatever they put on Flamin' Hots, it would be a huge success.
The next step is to turn zebra mussels into escargot. That's for the yuppies. More free protein right there.
OT, but important:
If you are an Illinois voter, I am writing this as a personal recommendation for you to vote “NO” to Constitutional
Amendment #49 (commonly known as CA49) appearing on the November ballot.
1. The purposely vague and verbose amendment uses terminology that has never been defined in current Illinois law. In short, no one understands what the amendment really means. I encourage you to actually read the entire 700+ word amendment and ask yourself if you truly understand what they are asking you to vote upon. Unless you understand it in its entirety, the only responsible thing to do is to vote “NO.” (The summary is grossly over-simplified and misleading.)
2. The amendment was crafted in the backrooms of our legendary State Legislature without benefit of public input or scrutiny.
3. The amendment does absolutely nothing to address the pension funding shortfalls caused by decades of our politicians “kicking the can” down the road.
There is a lot of misinformation and smoke and mirrors being employed by your state and local politicians to confuse the issues and panic the citizens. CA49 is just one of them. For certain, the decades of underfunding by the state and local politicians in Illinois will require some difficult financial decisions in the immediate future, but when Rahm Emanuel talks about 150% property tax increase, he is peddling pure panic for his own political motives. No such thing is needed.
Most folks do not realize that persons on a public pension DO NOT qualify for Social Security, no matter how long they worked and paid into it. I worked and paid into SS for over 35 years, many of those at good paying salaries in the engineering field. I am considered very fortunate because of my start date with the City of Chicago, I was “grandfathered” to a reduced SS payment of $168 per month. My earned benefit should have been over $1,000 per month.
Now the politicians are talking about “sharing the sacrifice” on the backs of current public pensioners because of their own years of malfeasance.
One last point: I read, along with you, the horrific stories of clouted individuals receiving generous pensions for as little as ½ days’ work. Those persons, pure and simple, were allowed, by the politicians, to steal from our hard earned pension funds. They should all be in jail. My fellow pensioners and I paid 9% of every paycheck to our pension fund, in my case for over 29 years. We were never allowed to “skip a payment.”
Thank you for reading… please feel free to forward as you deem appropriate.
Jim Padar
jim@padar.org
http://OnBeingaCop.org
More Rahmmunition for the city to cry broke as our contract negotiations grind on.
The city consistently fucks up and the indentured servants known as taxpayers are the ones tasked with kissing and making better the resulting boo-boos.
Wouldn't want to entertain - for even a second - the thought of scaling back entitlements and social programs. Farces that are nothing more than barely legal scams to pacify an ignorant democratic voting base while enriching the connected and clouted few.
Beware these sleights of hand that are nothing more than purposely timed and manufactured distractions.
Your pension as promised is under one of the shells marked "CA49". Don't fall for the okeydoke.
Ah yes... funnel more money to the democrapic national idiots
the test was made by a african american, but the results didnt accomplish what they wanted. so a federal judge mandates they be hired. its different strokes for different folks. some need help alot more than others. just lower the standards to satisfy the chosen. but why stop at the cfd, they also want lower standards for nurses. lawyers are already there, richie took three trys to pass the bar. its a whole new world when any one can be what they want, even if they are not qualified.
I remember when this test was given. One of my employees was all excited and took it . They had study groups and gave him study guides , handouts , even cassette tapes with everything that would be on the test . He still got a very poor score . Of course , he wasn't a very smart person. I wonder if he's going to be a firefighter now , or is going to get a big settlement check as a reward for being stupid.
Off topic, but is it true that the next sergeants promotional requirements is a 4 year degree?
Black guy makes the test, black guys fail the test, and they still get paid. I'm the wrong color. I want to get a laminated race card too.
more lawsuits coming because of the 2006 firefighter exam,keep the check book open rahm.
Those maggies boxes and park are budget killers...
Just how quick will the Courts agree that the City failed to meet Police & Fire Pension obligations that date far before 1995 and to current day?
Again, who agreed to the "settlement" stipulations, and of course, NO APPEAL.
Where's ours?
How about a tax on 40's and short dogs? If its not in a six pack or a fifth, add a dollar a bottle tax.
funny you refer to "hinges on bankruptcy".
If Emanuel produces a "balanced budget" how exactly is Chicago hinging on bankruptcy?
And with EVERY government budget from now on where their crafters claim a balanced budget, how could they EVER have a right to then claim they're approaching bankruptcy as an excuse for anything?
Could they allege that since they ran over budget by a dollar last year they're now unable to pay all their bills and are therefore on the verge of bankruptcty? Doubt it.
So, in the end, Chicago claiming balanced budgets WHICH INCLUDES DEBT PAYMENT WITHIN THAT BUDGET, clearly indicates that Chicago is NOT on the verge of bankruptcy, nor has it's budget situation changed in any way than it has been for the last 100 years.
Some years you miss budget, you make up for it in the next. Some years you score under budget that piles up to pay for the next miss.
And when you siphon off millions ot tax dollars away from their intended recipient departments in order to pay for private owner land and structure purchases, you don't have a right to claim bankruptcy.
When TIFF ends, when Chicago can no longer give away free glasses, exams and other non requisite free gratis items to their voting base because they had to use that money to pay employees and even THEN they fell short, maybe THEN they can claim bankruptcy.
But alas, there's always asking for more tax money, which they do for every non essential bullshit line item OTHER than the city's requisite EMPLOYEE PAYMENTS.
So, bankruptcy, the fuck they are and the fuck any arbiter will ever believe even without getting a forensic look at the books.
55 million ? Wasnt the original number 56 ? again a big waste of our tax dollars. Just throw up a sign with the bitch's name on it and have Herb Dilla paint it and Sue Mendoza can pay that crying little shit out of her pocket again. NO COST.
Black person developed the test and blacks receive compensation . What about the whites and hispanics.
I think we should all call our alderman and tell them that we don't want this park for Maggie .
I got a low score on my ACT test and couldnt get into a Big 10 School,I want to sue the ACT test makers, cause they discriminated. Im Hispanic see Senor,Can El Supremo Courte help me?
DemocRATS in Illinois , crook county and Chitcawgo are not friends of the working class .
Highest sales tax , big water rate increase by ballerina boy , 2 % jump in State income tax , one of the Highest Gas taxes .
Now these sob's want to stop health insurance for retirees but demand free health for illegal immigrants and the non working people of illinois . they also want to reduce cola for retirees,seniors received no social security increase for the 1st 2 years of obama administration.
Most of all , a politcal cover up when 4 americans were killed overseas and a border agent on U.S. Soil . Think hard before this country becomes greece .
Affirmative Action is nothing more than government-sponsored discrimination! It clearly violates the constitutional rights of any citizen that does not belong to a "protected class", i.e., white males. I find it humorous that my neighbor will not vote for Romney because she is afraid her daughters will have to pay for their birth control. I pointed out that she has more important things to worry about, namely, her 3 sons that may be denied a job because they are White. A good portion of our citizenry has lost it's fucking mind!
heard that those guys can't pass the state tests so they brought them in tutors!
go back and read the lawsuit it was not because they scored poorly. city changed the rules. Test was made by a Black Firm. This not Affirmitive Action
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They need to generate income by selling alley rats for food. This could be the new green, low carbon footprint solution that picks up where Solyndra failed.
If everyone used alley rats for a protein source, they could clean up the city and pay for all the corruption at the same time. School lunch programs wouldn't cost as much and if they douse the rat meat with whatever they put on Flamin' Hots, it would be a huge success.
The next step is to turn zebra mussels into escargot. That's for the yuppies. More free protein right there.
10/24/2012 01:40:00 AM
GREAT idea brother. Include that we would use garbage trucks, already in use in the neighborhoods, to make the deliveries with appropriate signage...
"Rahms Rats, Meals on Wheels."
You're Welcome.
2. The amendment was crafted in the backrooms of our legendary State Legislature without benefit of public input or scrutiny
This alone should make every citizen vote NO. Crooked bastards.
what a joke..no more tests first come first serve..lol
lawyers getting richer..
WestSide sez--
"Wouldn't want to entertain - for even a second - the thought of scaling back entitlements and social programs."
10/24/2012 03:08:00 AM
...or even things that don't even resemble any sort of "social program" whatsoever -- stupid banners and "boathouses" and "skate ribbons" and women being paid to paddle around in kayaks with a border collie "to stop seagull depredations" and Canadian-made stealabikes at solar-powered kiosks and Maggie Daley Parks in the middle of a depression...
"...enriching the connected and clouted few."
Uh, well, yeah...
"Beware these sleights of hand that are nothing more than purposely timed and manufactured distractions."
--10/24/2012 03:08:00 AM
You can now ride a train at speeds of 110 MPH -- at least between Dwight and Pontiac, Ill.
If the city does declare insolvency the pension funds are kaput and benefits will be determined by the state appointed administrator. You can probably expect about half of what is paid out now.
I know a guy from Revenue that just made out like a bandit on this....18 years of Fire Department Pension just added to his 7 years with revenue puts him vested at 25 years per the settlement from what he was saying the other day. He has to do 1 shift and can retire with a combined 60% pay scale plus the COLA.
Speaking of St Maggie,
I did not wish her any harm while alive, her illness was tragic.
I also have nothing against Al Capones wife,
I don't have anything against Al Capones mother.
Maggie was married to a serial unindicted felon,
Maggie raised an unindicted felon,
Maggie was not connected to any criminal act, although the contributions to her charity linked to T.I.F. fund contractors didn't pass the smell test.
Maggie Park?
Come on.
Use that money as a down payment on the MILLIONS the city owes the various pension funds.
That's a start.
OT but another blunder from 19. Seems 3rd watch WC plotke and capt ryan made an off duty PO blow for being intoxicated off duty. PO was victim of a battery and ET documented the injuries to PO. Those bosses are not your friend, even though they will pretend to be.
OT:
Drive By Shootings. Another one today on the southside.
It really should be called sniper fire but we don't call it that because of all the images those words conjure up.
The words drive-by...sounds like fun don't it? I'll bet when you were a kid mom or dad would always take you on a drive-by to see something. Let's take a drive-by the lake, the softball field, the park, zoo, the dog park. etc and see what's going on.
We shouldn't be calling drive-by shootings drive-by's. We should call them sniper fire to conjure up the right images of what is going on instead of trying to cover them up.
So the mayor wants what's right for the bartender that took a beating. How about a $55 million dollar memorial park?
We could just borrow the money and repay it with everyone's real estate taxes later when the news settles down and people don't realize what their money is being spent on!
Anonymous said...
St Maggie of Chicago deserves a park in her honor at our expense. In her time on earth she did so much with other peoples money, both private and public.
10/24/2012 12:54:00 AM
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It's sickening.
To elevate this women to sainthood.
What has the city done for all the war vets? Take their mental health facilities away to help fund this park!?
No, don't even think about giving me the: "this money is not a part of that money routine -- these are corporate contributions" bullshit.
How much was spend on a monument of fallen officers and firemen by comparison?
What a waste. Speaking of entitlements what makes them think that shes entitled to this park? Shared sacrifice? how about starting right here?
Yep, new specially crafted pension laws. Written with verbiage so the meaning can be turned and twisted to suit the needs of the politico's. To legalize future thefts most likely.
It Orwellian. That's how it was done in that G. Orwell's movie 1984. Butcher the language.
Anonymous said...
does that mean as a white guy i can get 500k for being passed over for promotion because of affirmitive action??? this is bullshit.
10/24/2012 01:14:00 AM
Test was written by a black fellow way back when to make it "easier" for blacks to score evenly with non-blacks, now this ?
Time to kill all city sponsered festivals.
Or charge admission fee to get in!
Chicago property owners when faced with higher taxes, would rather cut these silly events that cater to out of towners than pay higher taxes!
Da Pelon
OT but another blunder from 19. Seems 3rd watch WC plotke and capt ryan made an off duty PO blow for being intoxicated off duty. PO was victim of a battery and ET documented the injuries to PO. Those bosses are not your friend, even though they will pretend to be.
10/24/2012 02:48:00 PM
XO Ryan from 019 out to be made to blow too! He is always getting drunk in the bars for free on Clark st.! Why do you think he loves 019. FACT!
listen young man , the XO's are
100 % appointed , no test , most were merit sgt and lt .
Wake up , within a year lt rank will be appointed and most will be from merit sergeants.
Compensate for what? As a white guy I saw numerous others(women, minorities) get hired even though my score was higher and I was in far better shape. Oh, that's right their score gets adjusted because of their race.. How about have tests where the race or sex is not listed. Everyone is just a number. Let the best get the job.
The best part is Rahm is spending the $55 million in dedication to the family that caused the huge $$$$$ mess for chicago. The family that beg borrowed and stole and did countless other shady deals that in the end hurt chicago. The same family that did the parking meter scam that drives Rahm nuts now! The Daley's...The sour gift that keeps on giving! Thanks Rahm!
Anonymous said...
I got a low score on my ACT test and couldnt get into a Big 10 School,I want to sue the ACT test makers, cause they discriminated. Im Hispanic see Senor,Can El Supremo Courte help me?
10/24/2012 11:10:00
Maybe you just aint smart.
Anonymous said...
does that mean as a white guy i can get 500k for being passed over for promotion because of affirmitive action??? this is bullshit.
10/24/2012 01:14:00 AM
Blame the incompetent boss's kid that took your promotion. You know,the you go drinking with.
look at cpd merit selection , many work inside the commander office or headquarters , it always works out for merit + white , black ,less hispanic and woman
So they hire a "Task Force" to figure out the budget crisis. How much are those hacks going to cost the tax payers? There is always a budget crisis during city contract times.
About captain Ryan making someone blow... Obviously I don't have all the facts of what happened... if unwarranted I would go sit at the nook and wait for him to come out on his days off
Just heard McTool on the media "hiring more officers is NOT the solution to the violence -- we need to put the officers where they are needed, free them up..."
Well how about freeing up the private citizen ex-mayor Daley security detail for starters. He's a private citizen. We own him nothing. Then move over to the aldermen with their private security details. They don't need them. Put those officers where they are needed and stop talking out of your...you know what.
Can't wait to vote. If you're an incumbent you are out.
I don't know if it was mentioned before but did you know that the Black fire candidates should have graduated 3 months ago. Yes, the ones who sued and are getting back pay and seniority are being held because they cannot pass all the required classes. They are being held and spoon fed answers because the city does not want another lawsuit. Did you also know the last Fire Lts test was scrapped so that these lawsuit people can take it when they get out of the Academy. It is possible that one of these scabs could get made Lt by merit and never have worked a working fire? This should scare everyone in Chicago who calls for help.
Hey SCC O.T.
Hey why is Mcyousuckrahm in the media talking about gun titling and more laws to "fix" the "gang violence" problem in the City. And why did not one media lacky question him on how his "plan" would help get the guns off the street. No respect for Mcdouchebag on how this really works on the "street" Pookie ain't reportin nutin to the "man" and Momma said he a good boy . Any taxpayer who was the victim of a home invasion amd robbery is going to report ALL of their losses so they can collect on the Ins. to replace their lawful firearms. So Mcgobackeast how is your new restrictive law enforced by nobody especially the "CrookCounty" Judeges help reduce the number of guns on the street in the city...........Just Sayin
"Yet we know the lawyers will get in there and get a big chunk of that. "
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No, this is in Federal Court. Legal fees are separate from the award. The award might be only $1.00, as it was for one of the Wilson Brothers, and the law firm can bill their fees directly to the City, as Flint Taylor and The People's Law Office did.
$1 million in fees for a $1.00 judgement award. The families of the slain officers the Wilson boys killed had a judgement against the Wilsons. So Flint Taylor asked for and received the sum of $1.00 for his client. Then he billed separately for his legal work. And got it.
Anonymous said...
55 million ? Wasnt the original number 56 ? again a big waste of our tax dollars. Just throw up a sign with the bitch's name on it and have Herb Dilla paint it and Sue Mendoza can pay that crying little shit out of her pocket again. NO COST.
10/24/2012 09:14:00 AM
Wherever that fucking thing is it will have my urine washed over it at my every opportunity.
Does anybody know if any groups are pursuing a class action lawsuit against the Department and Ladner regarding her single handedly disqualifying male white applicants?
"It's Orwellian. That's how it was done in that G. Orwell's movie 1984. Butcher the language."
--10/24/2012 03:26:00 PM
We directors and coordinators and facilitators are passionate about butchering the language. It's in our mission statement.
Did that whack upside the head with a claw hammer leave you unresponsive, or was it non-life-threatening?
"How about a tax on 40's and short dogs? If its not in a six pack or a fifth, add a dollar a bottle tax."
--10/24/2012 08:42:00 AM
NOW YER TALKIN!
Hey! Preckwinkle! Let's have a "violence tax" on "assault beverages!"
Covers tire damage/injuries caused by savages smashing bottles on street, cost of response to drunken domestics, combatants being stapled back together at the ER, etc.
Better make that five dollars a bottle.
Ten?
"How about have tests where the race or sex is not listed. Everyone is just a number. Let the best get the job."
--10/24/2012 04:22:00 PM
Racism!
Sexism!
"...it's a whole new world when anyone can be what they want, even if they are not qualified."
--10/24/2012 05:59:00 AM
I think they call it "Fantasy Island."
Mike Ryan asking some1 to " blow!" The magic bag that makes the voices go away, Mike? Remember? The silver spoon has tricked U again. Mike, what happens after every shift U work? What's in the bag, Michael? Not fair, silver spoons. No one can make U blow, U HACK! All clouted up, magic bag, making coppers blow? I hope not U true Hack of all Hacks, Iron Mike.
Anonymous said...
I think we should all call our alderman and tell them that we don't want this park for Maggie .
10/24/2012 10:41:00 AM
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Cancel Maggie Park ! What a waste of public money !
If Short Shanks wants this park let him pay for it, after all it was his dumb ass that she put up with all those years.
No blame the idiot firemen who walked arm in arm w/ Jesse Jackson during contract negotiating and agreed to a bunch of bs and never followed through! These asshole turned to him and didn't ever think they would come out smelling like shit!?! It's their own fault!!!!
Mike Ryan;s dad, Dan was a hooked up guy with the trades and bestowed Mike with certain priviledges. But Mike was always a cocky guy working in the Gang Unit, he thought the world evolved around him, He has endured some hardship in his life on the personal side and this has soured him quite a bit. Sometimes it really clouds ones' judgement.
More Mayoral bullshit on jobs and skill mismatches.
Who's coming up with these numbers of 80,000 jobs over the next ten years?
Probably the same accountants that claimed that's it's okay to skip pension payments, the pensions will earn so much money via investments it's okay right?
The same Mayoral budget advisers that base Chicago's budget on increasing growth in the economy today while everyone else is bracing for a slowdown and more tax increases.
The same advisers that tell us crime is down. That the violence initiatives are taking hold because the gang bangers now know that CPD will come down on them.. Yeah see it? They claim less homicides because the gangs are scared so they shoot people in the legs and not in the head. Ha guess what? Two more died in the last 24 hrs from GSW so let's cut the crap.
Listen to this krap....
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New Programs Will Help to Fill the Skills Gap and Prepare Chicagoans for Careers in Advanced Manufacturing, Information Technology and Culinary & Hospitality Fields
CHICAGO --(ENEWSPF)--October 24, 2012. Mayor Rahm Emanuel and City Colleges of Chicago Chancellor Cheryl Hyman today announced the next three College to Careers programs that will train Chicagoans for careers in the high-demand industries of: Information Technology at Wilbur Wright College, Advanced Manufacturing at Richard J. Daley College, and Culinary and Hospitality at Kennedy-King College. Over the next decade, over 80,000 job openings are predicted in these three fields in Cook County alone, representing a wide range of opportunities for Chicagoans.
http://www.enewspf.com/latest-news/school-news/37749-mayor-rahm-emanuel-and-chancellor-cheryl-hyman-unveil-next-three-college-to-careers-program.html
There's no shortage of I/T workers! Hell there's three on my block alone with 20 years or more of experience and all the recent certifications one could ask for.
The I/T jobs are going to India. The manufacturing jobs to Asia or south of the border. Going to college for hospitably and culinary skills OH PLEASE! Two or four year degree to flip burgers or be a maid? GIVE ME AN EFFING BREAK.
What it looks more like to me is a plan to use "the children" as tools by creating artificial demand for the city colleges. That phoney demand translate into construction projects for the clouted city real estate moguls, attorneys, and clouted construction companies.
There's no skill's mismatch. Skills mismatch is bullshit.
Caterpillar is cutting back, American Airlines is cutting back. The city is cutting health care and closing clinics. Computer maker HP is unloading tens of thousands of I/T jobs. Dupont, Dow Chemical both cutting back and doing layoffs. The green energy companies can't compete with China and the Obama money has run out and they are closing.
Go sell your krap to someone else Mayor. Stop with the false hope.
Just in....
City to install gun shot detectors.
Yep because their reach out methods and million dollar Street Friar programs are a failure when it comes to getting the public involved.
People in the hood are no fool. You can't protect the snitches and refuse to let them protect themselves and so it's "You're the police, you figure it out"
Also in related news...
Google searches for home made silencers up 200%.
Okay, so I have to be honest I made that last part up but wouldn't be surprised.
The only way to stop a democrat from spending is to vote them out!
I am sick of this "racial victim" bullshit. Its a fucking test, you either do well or you don't. Fuck this liberal bullshit. Look where it is getting us.
Thank the lawyers , judges, For the ridiculous lawsuits, it's what's ruining this country!
Off topic, but is it true that the next sergeants promotional requirements is a 4 year degree?
10/24/2012 07:17:00 AM
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I hope so. This will eliminate a lot of idiots
"You can now ride a train at speeds of 110 MPH -- at least between Dwight and Pontiac, Ill."
Between the prisons?
" Assault beverages ", that truly is some funny s**t!
Reminds me of a plan a while back, of some municipality, can't recall where, maybe NYC, that wanted to classify folding knives as " assault knives " because they could be easily carried in a pocket and used to...well dice 'n slice people's.
Also wanted to ban manufacture & importing of same.
OT but another blunder from 19. Seems 3rd watch WC (Watch Commander) plotke and capt ryan made an off duty PO blow
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What is a Watch Commander?
Get with the program
When someone devises a test that black can pass equal to the number who take the test they will become very rich. So far no one has been able to do that. Male whites are not a protected class in federal law and can be discriminated against. There is one test that withstood all law suits and that is the in-basket which was devised for the military in WW2, but the results would not be politically correct.
What they want eventually is no test at all. Let's cut to the chase, no more test for black firefighters and cops. But they can only work in areas that are black. That way they can't ever be discriminated against since they are with their own group. I think it's a great idea, black cfd and cpd only in Englewood and Harrison. Black officers, black bosses, black community. Solves every racial issue. Let's do this now. This a great idea.
just dip in the Maggie fund for more $$$$$
stolen for a rainy day
01:03 There are a lot of idiots on this job with 4 year degrees and many more with masters degrees
FDNY is about to settle a similar suit. They haven't hired a single firefighter in 5 years because of an asshole federal judge. Now they'll have to hire 47% blacks, AND they don't have to take a physical exam to get hired.
Try harder.
"You can now ride a train at speeds of 110 MPH -- at least between Dwight and Pontiac, Ill."
Between the prisons?
10/25/2012 01:17:00 AM
Well, they're trying to close Dwight now...
Where they will put the baby-choppers-up and husband-poisoners and the genuinely terrifying leering, extra-chromosome monsters they keep there now is anyone's guess.
They should have Graduated by now,But they have to pass the State test for Firefighter and EMT and most of the Class keeps on failing, and by the way you only get 3 trys,Yea right Discrimination.
Is chicago a city,state county or a country? Can youse answer dat bro? Lets just keep giving these lice money everytime they play the race card.The politicians revrums aclu etc. are going to cause a civil war in this country if they keep up with this bullshit! How long do they think they will get away this this shit until we say enough in a not so nice reaction.
But some people are incredibly smart! They just do not test well. (This is sarcasm; but it is an argument that gets tossed around by retarded people.)
I don't know if it was mentioned before but did you know that the Black fire candidates should have graduated 3 months ago. Yes, the ones who sued and are getting back pay and seniority are being held because they cannot pass all the required classes. They are being held and spoon fed answers because the city does not want another lawsuit. Did you also know the last Fire Lts test was scrapped so that these lawsuit people can take it when they get out of the Academy. It is possible that one of these scabs could get made Lt by merit and never have worked a working fire? This should scare everyone in Chicago who calls for help.
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This is incredible. These exams are a joke to begin with. Also, people that dumb are going to get taken care of and rewarded.
"Where they will put the baby-choppers-up and husband-poisoners and the genuinely terrifying leering, extra-chromosome monsters they keep there now is anyone's guess."
10/25/2012 12:57:00 PM
The West side of Chicago comes to mind.
01:03 There are a lot of idiots on this job with 4 year degrees and many more with masters degrees
10/25/2012 11:53:00 AM
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Let me guess. You do not have a degree.
"Is chicago a city,state county or a country?"
Chicago is a socialist fiefdom. Rahm is currently the king.
U.S. law does not apply here. We've managed to fend off the Supreme Court for years! Unfortunately, they recently re-asserted their dominance in that whole McDonald v. City of Chicago-thing, but we'll keep trying to figure ways around that. We've got an unlimited amount of tax money to waste!
Illinois law does not apply here.
We do what we want. No one can stop us!
We know what's good for you, better than you do.
You WILL pay higher taxes. You WILL get less police service. You WILL reside in the city.
You WILL like it.
"But Mike was always a cocky guy working in the Gang Unit, he thought the world evolved around him, He has endured some hardship in his life on the personal side and this has soured him quite a bit. Sometimes it really clouds ones' judgement."
Sounds like the perfect candidate for the personal concerns program.
Anonymous said...
But some people are incredibly smart! They just do not test well. (This is sarcasm; but it is an argument that gets tossed around by retarded people.)
10/25/2012 03:15:00 PM
HA!
ANd there are some sprinters who are really fast.
They just can't run well.
go back and read the lawsuit it was not because they scored poorly. city changed the rules. Test was made by a Black Firm. This not Affirmitive Action
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city did not change the rules -- THEY SET A CUTOFF SCORE, below which you would probably not be looked at .... thats EXACTLY what happened ... i DID read it
that cutoff score affected the blacks. The Civil Rigths Act of 1965 Title IV (AKA Affirmative action) employs the 80% rule (a violation of which suggests a prima facie case of racial discrimination)
the 80% Rule (or 4/5 rule) states that if one race is not hired (or promoted at a rate 80% that of the "superior" (excuse the term) race ... the the prima facie case of racial discrimination exists.
if 50% of whites taking the test are hired, then 40% of blacks taking the test must be hired. 50% x80% = 40%, any less and COngress says the one race is being discriminated against.
Now the employer, accused of racial disrimination, has the urden of showing the test is predictive - that just means they CAN justify the mismatch in racial numbers. THe FIre Dept, if I remember correctly, could not show the entrance test was predictive of success in that job.
So ya ... I read the case. The City did not change anything ... they just set a cutoff score. Remember the police test "qualified" "well qualified" etc? That's what they did. THe blacks did score poorly, make no mistake about that pal.
I read complaints on here every day about someone being given the answers to a promotional exam because they have clout. How come I don't read the "race" of that person? Those same people are the ones I sat next to in the academy and couldn't write or articulate a thought. No one complained,in fact most laughed. The typical response was that's so and so's kid. Get real. Stop pretending ALL white coppers are scholars.
Anonymous said...
I am sick of this "racial victim" bullshit. Its a fucking test, you either do well or you don't. Fuck this liberal bullshit. Look where it is getting us.
10/25/2012 12:29:00 AM
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we are all sick of it
but don't blame the blacks, and don't blame the Supreme Court ...
blame CONGRESS ... the same congress our fellow Americans voted into office ... THEY passed the 1965 Civil Rights Act whcih contains the Affirmative Action language ... and when SCOTUS clarified what some of that law meant CONGRESS pass the 1991 Civil Rights Act ... this shit is federal law, that's right statutory .... Rand Paul came out and said the Civil Rights Act was nonsense and was ruining this country .. the liberals went nuts ...
PFFT... fuck congress - they got theirs do't they?
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