"Merit" Nominations
This time for Detective? But they haven't made detectives in what, six years? The manpower shortage must have been solved!
Now let's see if they grant any Time Due.
Labels: promotions
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
Sunday, October 07, 2012
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Does anyone know when the class will start
Anyone know why certain Commanders(gold-stars?) receive multiple CLOUT PICKS and other receive 1?
And who decided not to show merit pick on promotions? May be Mikey shield can send an EMAIL blast about it.
Promotions are great for moral. Even though i'm not on any of the lists, you have to believe that at some point you can get out of the beat car and blue shirt otherwise you just begin to get depressed and down on yourself and your career choice. I'm all for any promotions. Good luck and congrats to those on the short lists and those that have been waiting over 6 years for the call.
went from best job to worst job in department real quick no?
You got nothin', kid!
when they re-open area 5 and area 4, I'll consider giving a shit about becoming a detective.
How many detectives are they making?
You mean there is still a chance for me to pull my retirement papers and suck some bosses ass and try one last time for that detective job I have been unable to get for my entire career? Uhhh, maybe not, I would rather slurp down my own vomit. Next week this time I will be burning my blue shirts in a pile of autumn leaves and never have to go to work on the CPD again. It will be all over in a couple of days.
But first, there is a Marathon to deal with!
Hope you make it GI from SWAT. I don't know what will do without you. You see, now you can get your D2 pay and stop bitching. Now you stay off the blog.
New Detectives? Yes I know most of the current ones don't know what they're doing. But also how many of those in patrol know what to do? Raise the hiring standards.
Anonymous said...
Promotions are great for moral. Even though i'm not on any of the lists, you have to believe that at some point you can get out of the beat car and blue shirt otherwise you just begin to get depressed and down on yourself and your career choice. I'm all for any promotions. Good luck and congrats to those on the short lists and those that have been waiting over 6 years for the call.
10/07/2012 02:12:00 AM
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Lose the positive attitude, kid. There is no room in this department or on this blog for someone with a sunny disposition. You're going to ruin it all. You need to learn how to bitch and moan about everything or you will get overun with jobs, assignments, and ridicule. Positive attitudes will NOT be tolerated. Repeat after me: "Can you believe this shit?", "You know what this mother fucking boss told me to do?". Then learn how to convince everyone that you're the only one who does any work at all. This is accomplished by bashing your co-workers whenever they're not around and calling them "do nothings" or "dogs". Follow this program and you'll be making rank very soon. Good luck.
Sucka da PP!!
Well your choices are simple if you are a south sider your choices are simple Area 1 or 2, which by the way are great places to work. In both of those Areas the bosses are great and are happy that you came to work, hell they even treat you like an adult. However if you live on the north side you can hope to get to Area 3, just be careful what you wish for if you want to work violent. If you enjoy being micro managed then this is the place for you. If you enjoy having your Lt. introduce himself to you and tell you how important he is then this is the place for you as well. And finally if you love to drink Diet Pepsi by the case then the Lt. and you will be fine. Word to the wise if you live north I would highly recommend going to Area 1, unless you like to be treated like a PPO.
Class will start in December.
Do you sons of bitches want to live forever? Lol
Anonymous said...
Does anyone know when the class will start
10/07/2012 12:05:00 AM
Whoa, whoa, whoa, take it easy there little Johnny. First off, your probably not in the running. ( and don't comment back that you're a low number on the list). Second, does it really matter when it starts? So like if it starts in a few weeks you'll take it, but if it's a month and a day, forget about it? Stop being so eager and slow the fuck down. Be happy the city is promoting.
Be prepared to be sent to Area South.
Anonymous said...
went from best job to worst job in department real quick no?
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Still a lot better than pushing a patrol car.
If you read who gets the picks like for commander the news affairs chick Stratton gets a pick,wtf, her family owns Stratton hats that the troopers all over wear talk about clout!
a bunch of sgts were just made because a bunch of sgts will be leaving in november--- now a class of det's is in the works--- congrats to anyone who made it but we just lost more people from the patrol division that we can't afford to lose--- zone 1 is a joke--- both districts under 200 officers with more leaving to retirement and promotion with no bid openings--- raps daily and some of the wealthiest neighborhoods in the city left unguarded because the beat cars are bouncing around like ping pong balls all night long instead of patrolling their beat...
70 detectives being made.
next will be EVIDENCE TECHNICIANS!
Anyone who takes the dis job now will be sorely disappointed. Good luck.
Massive case loads, unless of course you are in homicide because everyone knows thats where the work is done to a 17% clearance rate.
For $75 a week extra after taxes and being sent to a 60 to 90-minute drive, one way to work and the same home everyday?
The D-unit has been destroyed by Gangs of New York, AND IS A SHELL OF WHAT IT ONCE WAS.
Don't do it! WARNING YOU NOW!
Instead of Merit they should change the name to Clout, nepotism, and race norming. That way there is no confusion.
class of 70 detectives, don't know when, but soon
best job is working in an office , receiving sworn police pay for doing a civilian job at homan square , short hours and week ends off . where do we sign up ?
no swiping in and out at homan square , they are the chosen ones.
Congrats to those who will make it off the list. It's time.
Tracey is NOT a nice guy. Another egomaniac screamer.
Huge jerk.
went from best job to worst job in department real quick no?
10/07/2012 02:33:00 AM
I've been a det since 98. Worked in VC the whole time. Those are the truest words I've ever read on this blog.
What strokes would want that job? Or for that matter any white shirt promotion, you suck ass or like being behind a desk, swamped with cases?? No, I'm fine being a blue shirt, working days and keeping my family intact.
15 handouts a day. 10 days (technically) to handle them. An "A" list of merit hacks (Sgts & Lt's) who never actually worked as a dick to work for? A daily drive more than halfway across the city in rush hour traffic to do it? The clout babies get the close spots. And then to end up in SVU cuz you aint got the whack? U will never see second watch before 25 years unless you kiss some ass.Tell me why this is desireable?
I made detective in 2004 before making sergeant in 2012. I scored just under 450 on the 99 dicks's exam, and under 200 on the last sergeant's test.
No clout here, but the best thing I ever did was not listen to the haters on this job. I have only average intelligence, but I did realize that I needed help for the 2006 sergeant's exam after bombing the 2001 test. I bought a bunch of management books and books on how to take police assessment exams and learned to think like a supervisor. ON THE DAY OF THE TEST!
I don't pretend to be a great guy, and I hope to be a fraction of the supervisor as some great bosses that I have had.
But believe me, you CAN get promoted if you take that shit seriously and apply yourself.
Any idea what number they have got up to on the list ?
I can't stop laughing at some of the above comments...
There are some seriously funny people that write on this blog.. We all might be miserable together.. But the laughs make me smile!! CPD has the best writing humor. Some of you salty balled P.O.'s really missed out on your true vocation in life! Keep it up!
P.S. I'm on the short list for Det..... I can't wait!
Please don't merit promote any more medical abusers and those who don't do shit with their jobs. Too many of those already.
You mean there is still a chance for me to pull my retirement papers and suck some bosses ass and try one last time for that detective job I have been unable to get for my entire career? Uhhh, maybe not, I would rather slurp down my own vomit. Next week this time I will be burning my blue shirts in a pile of autumn leaves and never have to go to work on the CPD again. It will be all over in a couple of days.
But first, there is a Marathon to deal with!
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Congratulations!
15 handouts a day. 10 days (technically) to handle them. An "A" list of merit hacks (Sgts & Lt's) who never actually worked as a dick to work for? A daily drive more than halfway across the city in rush hour traffic to do it? The clout babies get the close spots. And then to end up in SVU cuz you aint got the whack? U will never see second watch before 25 years unless you kiss some ass.Tell me why this is desireable?
10/07/2012 01:49:00 PM
Yet nobody ever quits to go back to patrol. Can you tell me why that is if the Detective job is so horrible?
In Detroit, you can get promoted for f*cking your boss... glad that never happens in Chicago (wink-wink!)
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/19750499/officer-says-she-has-proof-she-traded-sex-with-godbee-for-promotion
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Promotions are great for moral. Even though i'm not on any of the lists, you have to believe that at some point you can get out of the beat car and blue shirt otherwise you just begin to get depressed and down on yourself and your career choice. I'm all for any promotions. Good luck and congrats to those on the short lists and those that have been waiting over 6 years for the call.
Dude, are you serious. You actually believe this?
10/07/2012 02:12:00 AM
Shit storm on the horizon over the petitions for pension board nominations. Big meeting on Tuesday at the board office look out for fireworks.
......and....they are asking for nominations for commander, too.
New Detectives? Yes I know most of the current ones don't know what they're doing. But also how many of those in patrol know what to do? Raise the hiring standards.
10/07/2012 07:31:00 AM
I'm one of the current ones that dont know what there doing, and let me tell you by the time I get to a scene or get my handout the investigation is already in the pooper. Why ? cause the great patrolmen that you are already has picked up the gun or the spent rounds. Etc etc
didn't call an ET didnt protect a crime scene and on and on. Then Reports are missing information and give conflicting information. arrest reports dont match case reports that dont match video.
Anonymous said...
15 handouts a day. 10 days (technically) to handle them. An "A" list of merit hacks (Sgts & Lt's) who never actually worked as a dick to work for? A daily drive more than halfway across the city in rush hour traffic to do it? The clout babies get the close spots. And then to end up in SVU cuz you aint got the whack? U will never see second watch before 25 years unless you kiss some ass.Tell me why this
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You don't hear that much bitching about the dicks having to travel down south because they are basking in the glory of the 10 hour/day schedule. Best kept secret in the Dept...
Anonymous said...
What strokes would want that job? Or for that matter any white shirt promotion, you suck ass or like being behind a desk, swamped with cases?? No, I'm fine being a blue shirt, working days and keeping my family intact.
10/07/2012 01:45:00 PM
The last time they gave the detective test, it was still a darn good job to have.
Anonymous said...
went from best job to worst job in department real quick no?
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Still a lot better than pushing a patrol car.
10/07/2012 09:01:00 AM
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Really not that terrible of a job. Do you know what a bad day on the dept is even like?
For all you Northside P.O.s itching to make detective, hope you have at least 21 years on the job or loads of clout if you plan on working at Belmont & Western. Thats what the cutoff was after the last merge. If not enjoy the daily commute to A/1 or A/2 from Rodgers Park or Edison Park.
Any idea what number they have got up to on the list ?
10/07/2012 02:27:00 PM
I think they have made only 243 off the list plus those who were merit.
SVU for most of my career as detective and lovin it...still have a family life. Hats of to the hard working dets in VC and RBT they deserve the credit and the overtime. Counting the days...
I believe they are on 240 or so
Anyone know why certain Commanders(gold-stars?) receive multiple CLOUT PICKS and other receive 1?
It's decided by the number of people underneath your command knucklehead, everything isn't a freaking conspiracy.
I was 238 and there was one guy after me on the list who was happier than I. # 240, you're up!
Anonymous said...
15 handouts a day. 10 days (technically) to handle them. An "A" list of merit hacks (Sgts & Lt's) who never actually worked as a dick to work for? A daily drive more than halfway across the city in rush hour traffic to do it? The clout babies get the close spots. And then to end up in SVU cuz you aint got the whack? U will never see second watch before 25 years unless you kiss some ass.Tell me why this is desireable?
10/07/2012 01:49:00 PM
Yet nobody ever quits to go back to patrol. Can you tell me why that is if the Detective job is so horrible?
10/07/2012 07:00:00 PM
Not true. I personally know of two people who left being a detective so there are probably more than a few.
For all you Northside P.O.s itching to make detective, hope you have at least 21 years on the job or loads of clout if you plan on working at Belmont & Western. Thats what the cutoff was after the last merge. If not enjoy the daily commute to A/1 or A/2 from Rodgers Park or Edison Park.
10/07/2012 09:35:00 PM
You don't bid coming out of detective school. Assignment is based on clout first and then chance. Seniority has nothing to do with it.
This job has turned in2 a paycheck only gig. It's show up, do the 4 days, and leave. The clout bosses don't even have a decent command of the language. Most of these "Hacks" R the peeps that never read a book cover to cover in their whole lives. No friends that aren't cops & egos that R far larger then their actual talent and intellect offer.
Most of these promotions R people that never had a bad day in their time as a 9161.
Fuck U and U'r Daddy's Name. Now go throw yourself a big promotional party, Hack!
Anonymous said...
For all you Northside P.O.s itching to make detective, hope you have at least 21 years on the job or loads of clout if you plan on working at Belmont & Western. Thats what the cutoff was after the last merge. If not enjoy the daily commute to A/1 or A/2 from Rodgers Park or Edison Park.
10/07/2012 09:35:00 PM
---detective used to be a gamble because there were only 5 choices of where to go - as we all know, now there are only 3
but anyone who passes up det. is a fo0l - you've got to take advantage of going whereever you can on this job , if only to do something different once in awhile, come on aboard, we are glad to have you. Hopefully, you have less than 18 years on, so I go go back up north!
And thanks again to McCarthy for closing the 2 areas - for no reason whatsoever. ANd thanks to Rahm for believing in the wisdom of that stupid fucking move.
How about let the detectives bid straight up for the districts instead?
10/07/2012 01:49:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I made detective in 2004 before making sergeant in 2012. I scored just under 450 on the 99 dicks's exam, and under 200 on the last sergeant's test.
No clout here, but the best thing I ever did was not listen to the haters on this job. I have only average intelligence, but I did realize that I needed help for the 2006 sergeant's exam after bombing the 2001 test. I bought a bunch of management books and books on how to take police assessment exams and learned to think like a supervisor. ON THE DAY OF THE TEST!
I don't pretend to be a great guy, and I hope to be a fraction of the supervisor as some great bosses that I have had.
But believe me, you CAN get promoted if you take that shit seriously and apply yourself
Really of average intelligence and you believe the nonsense you published. Every spot from Detective up is clout. There is no such thing as making it legit it's 100% CLOUT.
15 handouts a day. 10 days (technically) to handle them. An "A" list of merit hacks (Sgts & Lt's) who never actually worked as a dick to work for? A daily drive more than halfway across the city in rush hour traffic to do it? The clout babies get the close spots. And then to end up in SVU cuz you aint got the whack? U will never see second watch before 25 years unless you kiss some ass.Tell me why this is desireable?
10/07/2012 01:49:00 PM
Yet nobody ever quits to go back to patrol. Can you tell me why that is if the Detective job is so horrible?
10/07/2012 07:00:00 PM
Not true. I personally know of two people who left being a detective so there are probably more than a few.
10/08/2012 02:03:00 AM
I've never heard of it. I believe you though. Out of that many bodies there's bound to be a couple that don't like it. The way I look at it is it's worth a try because you do have the option to leave and go back to patrol if you hate it that much. I still hear a lot of people say that it's still the best job on the department even if it isn't what it used to be.
No E.T 's anytime soon and you can forget about the Crime Lab. Looks like the rumors are true and they are fazing them out to go private.
time for you 70 lucky guys to stock up on the cheap suits and pinkie rings--- you also have to learn the most important phrase you will ever say into a phone, "you ain't got nuttin kid."--- hope the price of gas goes down for all you northwest siders that are going to go south...
Be prepared to go south, because even after the consolidation that was supposed to make everything equal Area 1 still has more crime than 2 &3. Area 2 just happy that you showed up for work, same with Area 1. Area 3 micro managed by clout babies most of whom were never a Detective and couldn't do an interview to save there life.
Anonymous said...
15 handouts a day. 10 days (technically) to handle them. An "A" list of merit hacks (Sgts & Lt's) who never actually worked as a dick to work for? A daily drive more than halfway across the city in rush hour traffic to do it? The clout babies get the close spots. And then to end up in SVU cuz you aint got the whack? U will never see second watch before 25 years unless you kiss some ass.Tell me why this is desireable?
10/07/2012 01:49:00 PM
Yet nobody ever quits to go back to patrol. Can you tell me why that is if the Detective job is so horrible?
Mikey Says...Try it!, You'll like it! I say look before you leap. We have suicides in the d-Unit just like patrol. Hmmmmmmmmmmm...
Watch out for the backstabbing to begin between the merit picks for detective and the commander nomination forms.
Anonymous said...
What strokes would want that job? Or for that matter any white shirt promotion, you suck ass or like being behind a desk, swamped with cases?? No, I'm fine being a blue shirt, working days and keeping my family intact.
10/07/2012 01:45:00 PM
Theres alot of dedicated family men and women who actually make over $100,000 as a det. and still can be there for their family. Stop using "family" as an excuse that you probably don't have the brains or the balls to atleast try and get promoted. Yea, enjoy your beat car.
" Every spot from Detective up is clout. There is no such thing as making it legit it's 100% CLOUT."
Um. No. You sir, are a bitter jaggoff.
On a serious note:
Does anyone know how much a detective can make in overtime per year? Can a detective realistically make an extra $20,000.00 in overtime?
Its pathetic that they actually ask for resumes when they know they are gonna take care of the kids of people they know. I took the test and have the time but knowing who else is putting resumes in, i decided not too because its so one sided. Its a promotion and more cash, and i would take it, but i know i would never get it, not in 011.
assign crime lab techs to detective division , train them to investigate and clear crimes .
they make sgt pay to take photos , collect evidence and process crime scenes for fingerprints .
we could use them in the d unit
that would eliminate one command spot and a bnch of do nothing house cats .
Really of average intelligence and you believe the nonsense you published. Every spot from Detective up is clout. There is no such thing as making it legit it's 100% CLOUT.
A smart man once told me that you only have to test against a portion of candidates since most won't bother to take promotional exams seriously. I love people like you, because you make it easy for those who study to succeed.
hey here's a little history of merit and the Detective's test (per Majeske v. City of Chicago2000):
1989 Det. Test: 3392 took written, of which the city wanted 650 to take oral. Of the 650, there were not enough minorities, argued the city. Therefore the “races” were separated (white, black, Hispanic) and the top 17% of each race were selected to take oral. Cutoff scores then became: white (82), Hispanic (79), and black (73). 619 ended up taking oral.
HURRAY !
How about the fucking moron that kept spewing for the kast year or so that the Dets. List is no more... According to a person he/she knows downtown... Stroke!
Anonymous said...
10/07/2012 01:49:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I made detective in 2004 before making sergeant in 2012. I scored just under 450 on the 99 dicks's exam, and under 200 on the last sergeant's test.
No clout here, but the best thing I ever did was not listen to the haters on this job. I have only average intelligence, but I did realize that I needed help for the 2006 sergeant's exam after bombing the 2001 test. I bought a bunch of management books and books on how to take police assessment exams and learned to think like a supervisor. ON THE DAY OF THE TEST!
I don't pretend to be a great guy, and I hope to be a fraction of the supervisor as some great bosses that I have had.
But believe me, you CAN get promoted if you take that shit seriously and apply yourself
Really of average intelligence and you believe the nonsense you published. Every spot from Detective up is clout. There is no such thing as making it legit it's 100% CLOUT.
10/08/2012 07:15:00 AM
I agree with the original poster. One can make it legit even if one has average IQ. One needs to study, and I mean study, no less than ten hours a week for six months to a year. I did what the original posted wrote: Bought books, printed orders, training bulletins, copied training videos (you can), read orders onto CDs and listened during my commute, studied with several groups of friends, made flash cards, etc. I made it to dick and sergeant on the score.
I would assume, as most of us do, that there is some degree of cheating. By that I mean that "subject matter experts" are likely to "properly guide" family members, close friends and sexual partners on the intricacies of the test.
On the whole however, I believe that the great majority of people who make it on the score are legit.
Anonymous said...
This job has turned in2 a paycheck only gig. It's show up, do the 4 days, and leave. The clout bosses don't even have a decent command of the language. Most of these "Hacks" R the peeps that never read a book cover to cover in their whole lives. No friends that aren't cops & egos that R far larger then their actual talent and intellect offer.
Most of these promotions R people that never had a bad day in their time as a 9161.
Fuck U and U'r Daddy's Name. Now go throw yourself a big promotional party, Hack!
10/08/2012 06:00:00 AM
Perhaps, you have spent too much time texting, Mr. Intellect. R is a letter, not a verb.
Anonymous said...
assign crime lab techs to detective division , train them to investigate and clear crimes .
they make sgt pay to take photos , collect evidence and process crime scenes for fingerprints .
we could use them in the d unit
that would eliminate one command spot and a bnch of do nothing house cats .
10/08/2012 05:19:00 PM
There are only eight Police Forensic Investigators left and they are not making anymore as the current left overs will be phased out. Eventually the ET's will be given a pay bump to probably equal D-2A, not the Sgt's pay the PFI's got. The current Evidence Technicians are one hundred times more competent and efficient than the clouted PFI's, and ET's handle homicides every week in one third the time, with much better reports. ET's will be centralized to Homan Square soon, and will be dealing with everything from garage burglaries to homicides. The city is not contracting anything out Forensically speaking...........
I rather work Special Employment!
No headaches in comparison to working in the D-Unit!
It ain't like it used to be, kids!
Da Pelon
Hey Leo are you going to make BA from 313 a REAL detective now?
Anonymous said...
On a serious note:
Does anyone know how much a detective can make in overtime per year? Can a detective realistically make an extra $20,000.00 in overtime?
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You can do that and more. I did it and it was no sweat. But that was in the early 2000 to 2006. When the D unit worked like a fine Swiss clock. 80 hours a period gives you 120. Nice $$ at 45 @ hour.
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