Monday, December 17, 2012

The Same Pena? (UPDATE - $25G's)

Saw a comment alleging this. Googled it. Came up with this Tribune article from 1992:
  • A security guard at a Near West Side school disciplined four 7th-grade girls caught in the hallways after lunch by forcing them to eat cakes of caustic soap, a federal lawsuit charges.

    The students at the Talcott School, 1840 W. Ohio St., were found wandering the halls on Oct. 10 by the guard, an off-duty Chicago police officer, according to the lawsuit filed Tuesday.

    The officer brought them to a vice principal`s office where she offered to punish the students herself, said Denise Devitt, the attorney who filed the suit on behalf of three of the girls and their mothers seeking unspecified damages.

    When the vice principal approved this, Devitt said, the officer, whom Devitt identified as Maria Pena of the Wood District, led the girls to a bathroom. Once there, a second security guard, identified as Marcy Mercado, allegedly barred the door, according to the suit.

    Then, Pena, who was wearing her police uniform, allegedly forced the 11-and 12-year-olds to begin eating bars of heavy-duty janitorial soap, causing one of them to vomit, Devitt said.

    ``I don`t know what would warrant that type of physical abuse,`` said Devitt, who added that none of the girls received medical attention at school after the incident, but that two of them, brought by parents, were at the emergency room of a local hospital until late that night.
Anyone want to give the readers some background on this? Seems like battery charges ought to have been filed at the very least. If it's the same Pena, certainly shouldn't be running a District by any stretch of the imagination.

UPDATE: The lawsuit was settled for  $25,000 according to a link in the comment section.  That tells us quite a bit about the merits of the lawsuit.

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148 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes this is the same Maria Pena, 100% without a doubt. No question. Its a shame she was never exposed much at the time it happened. I have personally witnessed her bad mouth other officers ,including supervisors that worked both above and below her. when i say bad mouth i mean fucking with their job or position because she didnt like them. An incompetent, vindictive, merit hack!!

12/17/2012 12:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Same Maria, right before her clout promotion to detective, sgt, lt, cdr and more yet to come.

12/17/2012 12:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I couldnt believe when she made merit Sgt. I have zero respect for this woman. Incompetent is an understatement!

12/17/2012 12:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Only in the CPD do people like that get promoted. If she didn't get on this job she would probably be working security at Santa's Village or Great America, but on the CPD she becomes a boss.

12/17/2012 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now we believe every news article as the gospel ? If this story was true I believe criminal charges would have been filed and this happened how many years ago? She would of been fired a long time ago. IPRA is out of control with their six year long investigations, stripping officers, wanting to search p.o. homes, and taking any and every bullshit allegation complaints. Does anyone have the outcome f the civil trial?

12/17/2012 12:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Karma..so sweet..Happy Holidays you worthless hack

12/17/2012 12:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT
TOPEKA, Kansas -- Two police officers were fatally wounded after a shooting at a Dillon's Grocery Store and the suspect remains on the run.

The two officers arrived in two separate police cars and were responding to a report of a suspicious vehicle. A third officer on the scene was uninjured.

It happened at the store at Huntoon and Washburn shortly after 6 p.m. Sunday.

Police exchanged gunfire with a suspect fleeing the scene in a silver 1999 Toyota Camry.

That suspect has been identified as David Tiscareno, a 22-year-old Wichita man. He is still at large and is believed to be armed and extremely dangerous.

Anyone with any information about Tiscareno's whereabouts is urged to call police.
Stay with KSN and KSN.com for more information as it becomes available.

http://www.foxkansas.com/news/local/story/Two-police-officers-killed-in-Topeka/45JWnAj--k-9T00QKpp7Tw.cspx

ABCD
ABCD (Ret)

12/17/2012 12:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Should've used Lifeboy.

12/17/2012 12:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the rock candy in the urinals would have probably been a better deterrent--- its pissiliscious....

12/17/2012 12:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maria Pena was a tach officer in 013 at that time. It is the same one.

12/17/2012 01:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT--

IDEA OF THE MONTH --

"We should offer [various mutts and bustouts] bus tickets to Colorado or Washington, great welfare and legal pot."

12/16/2012 08:39:00 PM

...or at the very least saturate the city with advertising, "POT PARADISE -- IT'S DA KINE."

12/17/2012 01:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-4114870.html

12/17/2012 01:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems to be the same person. Is there a statute of limitations? I can't find the end result of the lawsuit, if it was settled, or went to trial. I feel for those girls.

12/17/2012 01:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Jon Jon from Laramie and north said...

Well scc we've all screwed up a time or two.

12/17/2012 01:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT--

Interesting background article here regarding the Newtown shootings. Illumines a couple more dark corners for us.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/16/nancy-lanza-mother-of-gunman-private-home-life_n_2313027.html

12/17/2012 01:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, there might be some irony in the name. Assuming her name is spelled with the accent over the "n"

BUT, as it reads, "pena" (besides other meanings, pending on its use) means "shame", "tragedy"

How appropriate, our command staff- for the most part- "es una pena"

12/17/2012 01:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When did this go to court? What was the outcome?

12/17/2012 01:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We know that Pena has been quadrupled promoted based on her ability to make good judgment. But how much did this lawsuit cost us taxpayers?

12/17/2012 01:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

thats f'd up if true. what are these people thinking./ what are they hiring. 18 years on the job never heard of so mentally irregular things.

12/17/2012 02:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oops!!!!

12/17/2012 03:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

12/17/2012 03:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gotta be the same one. She is a mean and vile person.

Isn't that 'conduct unbecoming'?

Battery?

Unlawful restraint?

Sheer stupidity?

They barred the door????? Seriously????? The only reason to bar the door is because you a) don't want anyone to see what you're doing b) you don't want anyone to 'interrupt' the punishment, and c) you are keeping the girls from leaving, thereby restraining them. HOLY SHIT!

She should have been FIRED.

And McPsycho still insists he hasn't made a single political promotion? Laughable.

Maybe Karma WON'T ever find her!

A punishment like that for wandering the halls after lunch? Deserves a punishment like that?

PUNITIVE DAMAGES AS WELL.

See if this ever hits the news. Chirp....chirp.

12/17/2012 03:21:00 AM  
Blogger Organic peregrine terra cotta bricolage cruelty- free locally outsourced maple nut crunch said...

This is a bit worse than my bus driver who would make us roll up the windows in the summer and then turned on the heat to punish the whole bus for a few bad apples.
People like this shouldn't be running around loose.

12/17/2012 03:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seriously? Come one, we are our own worst enemies.

12/17/2012 03:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who ever left a comment from laramie/north jon jon:

YOU ARE THE BEST!!!

THAT MADE MY DAY!!!

12/17/2012 05:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you want to gamble with your career as a police officer, be a security guard at CPS. It's not worth it.

12/17/2012 05:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And McPsycho still insists he hasn't made a single political promotion? Laughable.


12/17/2012 03:21:00 AM

I have a short time left on this job. When the current Superintendent got up in front of entire Command Staff and said that, I was justr amazed.

Why on Earth would you flat out lie to a bunch of veteran officers? It just make you look silly. Later I realized it was comparable to the husband telling the battered wife some ridiculous lie. "It will never happen you again". "It was your fault". Yoiu get the picture.

This is a really messed up Department. It is not working in any sense of the word.

12/17/2012 05:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What happened to the black woman Lt who pulled a gun on a off-duty Officer in a road rage incident??

12/17/2012 06:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

O.T. Stupidity Defined

Wanna see stupidity defined? In my district on 1st watch we have a p.o. who is very proactive. She likes to stop a lot of people and make a lot of arrests. Her partner was on call back and will be back in January 2013. So even though she saw first hand how her partner got screwed just because of an allegation she continued to do "aggressive police work" and now with her partner back she said "oh yeah we are going to tear up the west side and be number one in arrests for the watch".

If this isn't stupidity defined then I don't know what it is.

12/17/2012 06:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


So Rahm is having CPS practice their disaster procedures.

Ya know...is that like in CT where you crawl inside a closet or into a corner, lye in a fetal position while hoping/praying the "good-guys" arrive in time. Maybe have a 90 pound 5-2' teacher drag a 100 pound file cabinet in front of a door so the bad guys can't get in.

Then we're going to come out and tell them that they are safe as can be expected! Yep.

I mean... well... ya-know we are not going to turn OUR schools into some armed camp with guards and bob wire fences and stuff. That would ruin the illusion that the World-Class city is a safe place.

This is AMerika! Why we're better. No we will not bow down an admit we have security issues.

/sarcasm

No, let's make martyrs out of them instead and then tell the parents we've done everything that we could.

For the life of me will someone tell me who is designing these safety plans and why they have this job!!?

Cowering in a classroom full of 5, 6, 7 year olds in the corner and let the teacher stand in front of them to try and protect them. That is "what is safe as can be expected"?!

WTF man??

I hope Chicago has something more than this.

12/17/2012 06:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


You start with soap in the schools and then beatings, shock treatments and forced confessions in the interrogation rooms. Isn't that the fast track?

12/17/2012 06:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...



She's there because Rahm is all about "the children" don't you know?

12/17/2012 06:36:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

Over at St. Gabes's "Hungry" Hannigan used to eat the bars of soap they left in the bathroom.

12/17/2012 06:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It happened along time ago so get over it! There are worse bosses than Maria ~ if you don't like working for her, transfer out or wait her out ~ bosses don't stay in one spot forever!

12/17/2012 07:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A citizen. WTF?

12/17/2012 07:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Should've used Lifeboy.

12/17/2012 12:51:00 AM

Damm, beat me to it!!!!

12/17/2012 07:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ow we believe every news article as the gospel ? If this story was true I believe criminal charges would have been filed and this happened how many years ago? She would of been fired a long time ago. IPRA is out of control with their six year long investigations, stripping officers, wanting to search p.o. homes, and taking any and every bullshit allegation complaints. Does anyone have the outcome f the civil trial?
12/17/2012 12:19:00 AM

Really? Need I remind you of Weems.

12/17/2012 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As much as someone may not like her, bringing up a lawsuit is pimpy. I have several lawsuits where I have been falsely accused of B.S.and would want it put on the web by you as fact. Not right

12/17/2012 08:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok, let me see if I've got this right.

Cozzi slaps a restrained drunk shithead in a wheelchair while in uniform (battery, civil rights violation).
NO CLOUT= suspension meted out, served, then prosecuted again and serves nearly FOUR YEARS IN A HELLHOLE IN LOUISIANNA.

Pena locks herself in a bathroom with two children and batters them while in uniform.
CLOUT = PROMOTION after PROMOTION.

This dept. DOES have a problem with a CODE OF SILENCE--but ONLY FOR THE CLOUTED! HERE IS PROOF!

As far as I know, she's openly gay, so who knows if she got some sort of demented pleasure out of what she did.

THAT IS SOME CREEPY SHIT.

If I had any CLOUT, I would demand some answers on this one. Swept under the rug no doubt.

12/17/2012 08:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great leadership McDickHead

The department will continue to be screwed up until politics are taken out of the job, which will never happen. I am LMFAO

12/17/2012 08:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Somebody name her clout please so the City can see how this all works!

12/17/2012 08:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

its not like McNumNuts will de-mote her...nobody gets demoted- they change to XO lose responsibility and actual work BUT keep salary....XO of districts,areas, spec function---all political hacks gettin paid to do nothing---but hey lets screw over those less blessed--Lt(dss) can do their job and desk sgt job--sgt can do lt (dss) job for sgt pay and PO can do all the desk sgt(dss) stuff lts are too lazy/unskilled to do for po pay

12/17/2012 08:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

She couldn't be any worse than this stroke Lt we have in 06. He yells at Sgts to SPAR the Watch because he says we are all lazy and incompetent, but doesn't even have the balls to look us in the eye. As a goal the 3rd Watch just wants to come in,in one piece. You obnoxious MERIT HACK.

12/17/2012 08:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To anyone defending her shame on you! What comes around goes around! Karma is a bitch and you reap what you sow.

12/17/2012 08:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Promoted by McNumnuts, along with Helm and West,because they deserved it as working police. He should not preach at compstat if he is going to promote idiots like these.

12/17/2012 09:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

code of silence happened

12/17/2012 09:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

She gets promoted, and Cozzi got motherfucked for nothing. If you have enough clout, you can get away with anything. Pena is obviously Spanish for Vanecko.

12/17/2012 10:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

merit sgt , it's the chicago way

12/17/2012 10:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
It seems to be the same person. Is there a statute of limitations? I can't find the end result of the lawsuit, if it was settled, or went to trial. I feel for those girls.

12/17/2012 01:24:00 AM


Where the hell is Jody Weis when he might do some good?

12/17/2012 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if true she should have been fired
reopen case gmac . wtf she was merit promoted , who's her clout

12/17/2012 10:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the rock candy in the urinals would have probably been a better deterrent--- its pissiliscious....
-------------------------
thank you...i needed that laugh

12/17/2012 10:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maria Pena was wrong. Eating caustic soap should only be used for swearing.

12/17/2012 10:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Settled: Three grammar school pupils have won a $25,000 settlement in a suit alleging they were forced to kneel on a bathroom floor and eat soap for being in the halls during class time.

Chicago police officer Maria Pena, moonlighting as a school security guard, made the three seventh-graders swallow soap in a bathroom of Talcott Elementary School on Oct. 10, 1991, according to Denise Devitt, an attorney for the three pupils.

Chicago Board …

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-4114870.html

12/17/2012 11:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's all about the children, right Rahm?

Who vetted this dip shit? I don't care who her clout is, this story should be enough to shit can her immediately.

I'd like to hear from McJackass on this one. She was promoted because of her stellar and unsullied work history not her clout right Jeri. I mean that's what you love to pat yourself on the back about. You only promote the extremely qualified.

I guess you formed a kinship due to the fact that earlier in each of your careers you did shit that should have gotten you fired.

Pena: Hello superintendent. I'm Maria Pena. I washed out the mouths of children, that were not mine, with soap.

McCarthy: No shit? I got piss drunk and shot out the street lights in New York with my brother as we dropped N-bombs into the wee hours of the morning.

Pena & McCarthy: Soul brother!! High five. On the flip side.

McCarthy: Promote this woman.

Only in Chicago. That's all I can say.

12/17/2012 11:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems to be the same person. Is there a statute of limitations? I can't find the end result of the lawsuit, if it was settled, or went to trial. I feel for those girls.

12/17/2012 01:24:00 AM

No, there is no statute of limitations. It is equivalent to murder and treason.

12/17/2012 11:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Or not.

12/17/2012 11:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NBCChicago.com
updated 2 hours 3 minutes ago:

After disclosing ties to former Mayor Richard Daley, the judge randomly assigned to the case against Daley nephew Richard "RJ" Vanecko stepped aside Monday.

Prosecutors in turn called for a judge outside of Cook County to preside over the case.

12/17/2012 11:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How in the world does Pena not get charged with this crime. I also Googled the incident, there were 3 7th grade girls involved, one was injured so bad that she was bleeding. They were made to kneel while Pena from the 013th District and in full police uniform forced them to eat caustic soap, while the other police officer barred the bathroom doors. Abbatte has nothing on Pena. There was a civil law suit and settlement for $25,000 dollars. This merit vindictive hack needs to be Criminally Charged. Great leadership choice McDumbnuts and 9.5

12/17/2012 11:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Exactly our own worse enemy!!

12/17/2012 11:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please remember how incompetent this woman is! not one person in 010 has respect for her. She is a complete idiot and has been given every promotion-nothing earned-pathetic!

12/17/2012 11:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT, check out..armed israeli teachers..on google, images.

12/17/2012 11:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No statue of limitations on Official Misconduct I say charge Pinnochio

12/17/2012 11:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this is true, she should be in federal jail!

12/17/2012 12:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:91-cv-08384 Rios, et al v. Chicago, City of, et al
Ilana Diamond Rovner, presiding
Date filed: 12/31/1991
Date terminated: 05/21/1992
Date of last filing: 05/21/1992

Case Summary
Office: Chicago Filed: 12/31/1991
Jury Demand: Plaintiff Demand: $0
Nature of Suit: 440 Cause: 42:1983 Civil Rights Act
Jurisdiction: Federal Question Disposition: Dismissed - Settled
County: Cook Terminated: 05/21/1992
Origin: 1 Reopened:
Lead Case: None
Related Case: None

This case was settled there is no information as far as how much it was settled for.

12/17/2012 12:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Um I'm not sticking up for her, but some of these posts obviously come from people who have ZERO idea on how the system works. Oh and the the one post about IPRA, when this allegedly occurred IPRA didn't exist OPS ran their own bungled investigations at that time.

12/17/2012 12:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CPD Loves incompetent, controllable robots like her. They'll do whatever theyre told, no matter how ridiculous.

12/17/2012 12:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, yes it's one & the same Pena. At the time all of 013 was wondering if she was going to be able to keep her job. Did she ever. Back then Maria Pena was just one of the " guys ".

12/17/2012 12:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This shouldn't surprise anyone, "Merit", no matter how you try to spin it, is simply how much political clout one has. So all of you who work hard, take the test and pass it, sit on the list for years and get passed up so one of these people can take the spot you deserved, your'e out of luck.
On top of that, within five to ten years these same people make exempt rank due to several more "Merit" promotions and again that's okay. I'm am tired of hearing how it's okay because they're nice or it's okay because they are a good boss or it's okay because if anyone had the chance they would just jump on it too. It's an ignorant argument attempting to justify to themselves and the rest of us that these merit hacks actually deserve what they received. It's sickening, especially when we see example after example of the low caliber of people shamelessly being appointed to these top spots. We continue to lower the bar in this country, and that is coming back to bite us in the ass, sooner than later, in fact it already has.

12/17/2012 12:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/17/rahm-emanuel-calls-for-nationwide-assault-weapons-ban/

Rham wants MORE gun control

12/17/2012 01:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like the situation was 'cleaned up'

12/17/2012 01:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't denigrate Great America security.

12/17/2012 01:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT.

Tough times in Las Vegas.

It is with great sadness to announce that the CPAON association will be forced to cease operation by the end of the year. The association was founded in 1994. Through out the past 18 years the association has sponsored many reunions and charitable events. The last few years the club has experienced a drop in membership due to many reasons. The present board has attempted to keep the club going, but with the lack of assistance from the membership this very difficult decision was made. The assets of the club will be liquidated and divided among the existing members. We would like to thank all the members and sponsors who have supported the club throughout its existence.

12/17/2012 01:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I 've never met this Maria Pena but I'm curious why someones bad decision from 20 years ago is being examined now. Doesn't this department have enough black eyes without the help of articles like this? Especially in light of an unfulfilled contract?

12/17/2012 01:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another pos hack what a clown! She gets no respect she should of been terminated!

12/17/2012 01:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who is her clout? A rev? Aldrrtthief?

12/17/2012 01:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-emanuel-calls-for-assault-weapons-bans-in-illinois-nationwide-20121217,0,629612.story


apparently, not only is our growth stunted mayor desperate to keep his name in the national public's mind, but his pet monkey seems to have the delusion that his opinion is also vital to our country's future.


tweedle dee and tweedle dum.....

12/17/2012 02:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nothing to see here, after this is all said done Maria will be a Deputy and so the circle of Hacks continue, it's the Chicago Way.
C-Chicago
P-Political
D-Department
PEE ONS BEWARE.

12/17/2012 02:12:00 PM  
Blogger Cuinjl50 said...

We are not our worst enemies, when you have people like her running a district its just wrong. But i guess this city will never change reward those that shouldn't be on this job because of political connections/clout with merit promotions and who do we get total incompedent personnel running a district or a department for that matter.

12/17/2012 02:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BWHAAAAAHAAAAHAAAA!! Wait wait let me catch my breath. Ok, BWHAAAAHAAAAAAA!!!!

12/17/2012 02:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Police shooting in 3. Cops ok, bad guy in custody, gun recovered. There has been an alarming number of animals pointing guns at police this year. Especially in 3. Be safe out there. This city and the 3rd district is a war zone.

12/17/2012 02:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a wicked witch. That's the stuff kids' nightmares are made of. And I'm sure she wasn't at all verbally abusive while endangering their health.

And for those people who will say, "Oh, come on, I got my mouth washed out", etcetera, I'm sure it wasn't with industrial soap. And I'm sure it was by a parent. She endangered the lives and health of these children.

If Pena did that to my kid, I wouldn't file a lawsuit against her, I'd fucking make her eat a soap sandwich after I knocked her fucking teeth out.

Once a psycho wicked sociopath....you know the rest.

That must have been a hefty payout by the city. I just want to know who her clout was who took care of it.

Although why should this surprise us after the psycho bitch Penny in 011?

12/17/2012 03:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ABCD
ABCD (Ret)

12/17/2012 12:48:00 AM

That's funny!

12/17/2012 03:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jon Jon from Laramie and north said...
Well scc we've all screwed up a time or two.

12/17/2012 01:25:00 AM

Have you ever battered a child like that? I didn't think so.

12/17/2012 03:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Should've used Lifeboy.

12/17/2012 12:51:00 AM

Somehow I don't think Pena's ever seen A Christmas Story......or maybe she'd been watching the rerun all day before it happened.

Maybe she figured 'Hell, Ralphie turned out okay!'

12/17/2012 03:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Didn't she see the results of Ralphy in a Christmas Story movie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come on..........

12/17/2012 03:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe this has something to do with this situation, a quote from one of the victim's mother in the Trib article: " My daughter used to be a tomboy,`` Rios said. ``Since this happened, she`s no longer a tomboy. She`s afraid of everything and anything."

12/17/2012 03:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe someone should wear a undercover camera and mic.

12/17/2012 03:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

command material.....only the best and brightest, the most honest, those that possess integrity and character, intelligence and experience, rise to the command positions......no?

12/17/2012 04:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow force a kid to eat soap and bingo , best merit f/hispanic cpd can promote . If that's the best cpd can find , cpd is in big trouble . look at command staff , can't think of any that were promoted in rank order to sgt or lt

no wonder crimes up , thank the Lord for the bulldozers knocking down projects and section 8 for moving the undesireables out to suburbs . Must also credit paramedics life saving skills to keep dru dealers and gang bangers alive .

12/17/2012 04:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Now we believe every news article as the gospel ? If this story was true I believe criminal charges would have been filed and this happened how many years ago? She would of been fired a long time ago. IPRA is out of control with their six year long investigations, stripping officers, wanting to search p.o. homes, and taking any and every bullshit allegation complaints. Does anyone have the outcome f the civil trial?

12/17/2012 12:19:00 AM

Where have you been? Haven't you heard of the "code of silence?"

12/17/2012 04:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We know that Pena has been quadrupled promoted based on her ability to make good judgment. But how much did this lawsuit cost us taxpayers?

12/17/2012 01:55:00

We know that Pena has NOT been quadrupled promoted based on her ability to make good judgment.


12/17/2012 04:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess that if you are a clouted CPD Supervisor, there's no such thing as "Official Misconduct". Amazing how this "Code of Silence" only surfaces as an issue when a P.O. Is incolved, but never a Supervisor, Politician, or members of the News Media.

12/17/2012 05:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regardless, if it has any basis to it, it's still wicked behavior.

Sure, they didn't suffer lasting physical effects, but that doesn't negate the fact that if she did it, she's a mush.

12/17/2012 05:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
O.T. Stupidity Defined

Wanna see stupidity defined? In my district on 1st watch we have a p.o. who is very proactive. She likes to stop a lot of people and make a lot of arrests. Her partner was on call back and will be back in January 2013. So even though she saw first hand how her partner got screwed just because of an allegation she continued to do "aggressive police work" and now with her partner back she said "oh yeah we are going to tear up the west side and be number one in arrests for the watch".

If this isn't stupidity defined then I don't know what it is.

12/17/2012 06:24:00 AM

Maybe she's been dropped on her head a few times.

Some people never, ever, ever learn.

That's what McBingo and the Tutu count on.

12/17/2012 05:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then we're going to come out and tell them that they are safe as can be expected! Yep.

------
That's a funny thought--keep them safe in school, but good luck once you hit the sidewalk! Maybe they should add a class on how to dodge a bullet. The ghetto version of Hopscotch.

12/17/2012 05:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

You start with soap in the schools and then beatings, shock treatments and forced confessions in the interrogation rooms. Isn't that the fast track?

12/17/2012 06:35:00 AM

I think a little boogie just fell outta my nose! Too f-ing funny!

12/17/2012 05:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
code of silence happened

12/17/2012 09:43:00 AM

Heard McBubbles speak not long ago. He said there is no code of silence, that the only code of silence in the Abbatte case began and ended w/the two responding patrol officers. There was nobody higher up involved. At what point do you get committed to a rubber room when you lie to the point where blur the line between reality and your delusions?

He did also say that he has not made a SINGLE politically influenced personnel decision. I almost aspirated an ice cube.

If he's fired is he going to be bunkies with Jfled? Does McBubbles own any cats?

12/17/2012 05:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT--

McCarthy on Channel 9 news right now, disgracing a Chicago Police dress uniform with four stars on each shoulder --

Lying like hell that "90% of American firearms production goes into the illegal market".

Dick "Oversized Mouth Full Of Spit" Durbin on there, demanding nationwide ban on "assault weapons."

Etc.

Important to ram through new laws while emotion is running high -- before an investigation is completed or anything like that.

SSDD.

Guns didn't do it. My take -- someone knew they had a severely problematic kid but "kept family business in the house" until things blew.

12/17/2012 05:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Maria Pena was wrong. Eating caustic soap should only be used for swearing."

12/17/2012 10:59:00 AM

There ya go. Blasphemy, threatening s__t-talking, etc.

Wandering around hallways? Stand with nose touching wall for one hour. Something like that.

Some school system -- TX? -- putting RFID tags in student IDs, know where they are in building.

"Hall monitor" was more fun, you got to shoot paper clips when no one was looking, slide things up and down the hall, etc.

12/17/2012 05:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT:

Anybody have the latest murder count? How close to 500 are we?

12/17/2012 05:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My paycheck is lighter....what happened?

12/17/2012 05:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Pena did that to my kid, I wouldn't file a lawsuit against her, I'd fucking make her eat a soap sandwich after I knocked her fucking teeth out.


AGREED. 100%. Cop or not that bitch would be eating pudding and jello for quite a long time.
Another affirm. action , moving up without any job abilities.

12/17/2012 05:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

bga andy shaw should interview mccarthy . ask him why qualified blacks , hispanics , whites that passed both sgt and lt tests are passed over by triple merit
no politics involved
if you have to study , while assigned to patrol division feel lucky you were able to make sgt and lt without political clout

12/17/2012 05:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for the "PISS DRUNK" comment.

12/17/2012 05:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Maybe this has something to do with this situation, a quote from one of the victim's mother in the Trib article: " My daughter used to be a tomboy,`` Rios said. ``Since this happened, she`s no longer a tomboy. She`s afraid of everything and anything."

12/17/2012 03:26:00 PM

Like what ? Dumbass.

12/17/2012 05:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. SouthSide said...
Over at St. Gabes's "Hungry" Hannigan used to eat the bars of soap they left in the bathroom.

12/17/2012 06:57:00 AM
------------------------------------------------------
Good one! I hope he took the dishes out before he pissed in the sink..!

12/17/2012 05:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

25000 in 92 was quite a bit...

12/17/2012 06:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

An average Patrolman with under 5 years on the job in the 006th Dist has 10 X's the street smarts and experience than the new Lt. Would someone in command enlighten the RUSSIAN fRUNT that he is clueless and just plain ignorant. He's unbearable and is going to really get people hurt. Had a family member that worked with him in 014 that said he was a idiot then and was run out by everyone. We can only hope.

12/17/2012 06:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow. And she was merited up to Cmdr. incredible.

12/17/2012 07:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why would anyone be merit promoted after an incident like this? STOP the merit promotions.....we look like idiots placing someone like this in command.

12/17/2012 07:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it you dont have clout on this job you dont matter i guess...all the people from msf and tru with clout landed on their feet while the no clout are screwed.

12/17/2012 07:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>>Anonymous said...
CPD Loves incompetent, controllable robots like her. They'll do whatever theyre told, no matter how ridiculous.

12/17/2012 12:40:00 PM<<<

That's exactly what she did in 10.

McNumbnuts controls her and has been impressed at what the 10th district cops do and said so at Compost meetings.

She came into a good district where cops worked because they were protecting each other because they had years of mostly good D.C.s, W.C.s and street bosses. She brought in Captain C.W. who had her own history to do the dirty work. The two of them got rid of any good bosses who took care of the troops and made everyone fight over the scraps of time off to impress McNumbnuts. In a short period of time they took a great place to work and made it hell.

Pena and C.W. have no loyalty to the good cops of the 10th District and have not taken care of them. And when you screw with good people it will always come back and bite you.

12/17/2012 08:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

quinn gave 55 million so inner city youth can take tripp and do yoga..but no money for pension..

12/17/2012 08:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just because the city settled the lawsuit doesn't mean anything. As someone who's been through this before, I can tell you this: People are paid to go away. That doesn't mean the officer is always guilty of what they were accused of.

12/17/2012 08:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To O.T. Stupidity Defined comment,

HAHAHA those 2 weren't #1 before the allegation, and she wasn't any where near #1 during the allegation, and they won't be number one now that the allegation is behind him. They may think it but really aren't IT. Arresting people for driving on suspended licenses DOESNT COUNT especially when you work in an area where 90% of the people don't have a license!

Sincerely
Glad to be gone!

12/17/2012 08:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good. Give them brats some punishment. I'm sure they don't get it at home. City then pays them $25K. So the lesson is wasted.

12/17/2012 08:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
O.T. Stupidity Defined

Wanna see stupidity defined? In my district on 1st watch we have a p.o. who is very proactive. She likes to stop a lot of people and make a lot of arrests. Her partner was on call back and will be back in January 2013. So even though she saw first hand how her partner got screwed just because of an allegation she continued to do "aggressive police work" and now with her partner back she said "oh yeah we are going to tear up the west side and be number one in arrests for the watch".

If this isn't stupidity defined then I don't know what it is.

12/17/2012 06:24:00 AM

Maybe she's been dropped on her head a few times.

Some people never, ever, ever learn.

That's what McBingo and the Tutu count on.

Yes. She is so stupid What is wrong with her taking pride in her 70k plus year job. She is so stupid. She should do nothing and just be happy she has a job. Try to hide all day and get paid. Doing the minimum is what has made this country so great in the past right?

12/17/2012 08:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Talcott Elementary School on Oct. 10, 1991,
how in the hell are district 010 police officers going out of their way even to the x-mas party is beyond me!

3rd district for maria pena on midnights is karma!

12/17/2012 09:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wanna see stupidity defined? In my district on 1st watch we have a p.o. who is very proactive. She likes to stop a lot of people and make a lot of arrests. Her partner was on call back and will be back in January 2013. So even though she saw first hand how her partner got screwed just because of an allegation she continued to do "aggressive police work" and now with her partner back she said "oh yeah we are going to tear up the west side and be number one in arrests for the watch".

Good for them, shit happens, you pull yourself up by your bootstraps and you get back out there and do the job you were hired to do. Be safe officers and right always prevails.

12/17/2012 09:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>>Anonymous said...
OT--

McCarthy on Channel 9 news right now, disgracing a Chicago Police dress uniform with four stars on each shoulder --

Lying like hell that "90% of American firearms production goes into the illegal market". <<<

Per Dr. Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Minister of Propaganda, "Tell a lie big enough and repeat it often enough and people will believe it."

Earlier, another lie repeated by
" CHICAGO (CBS) — The numbers are in, and overall crime is dropping in Chicago.

Police Supt. Garry McCarthy says in a memo to Mayor Rahm Emanuel that overall crime is down more than 8 percent from last year.

The new numbers did not include the number of murders, which are about 20 percent higher this year.

There were reductions in burglary, vehicle theft and sexual assaults.

McCarthy said it was the biggest drop in overall crime in the past two decades.

He said adding more officers on the streets have helped as well as partnering with community organizations to get a better understanding of trends in neighborhoods. "

The comments on the CBS website bury McNumbnuts, nobody beleves him.

12/17/2012 09:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


"Qu'ils mangent de la brioche"

"Let Them Eat Cakes!!!"

....said Queen.

~Maria Antoinette..

12/17/2012 10:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes it was a long time ago. However it was a complete lack of proper judgement. she is a horrible boss. A micro manager that concerns herself with only numbers. Not an original thought has ever sprouted from her lips, ever. Truly disgusting!

12/17/2012 11:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pena -not a single promotion based on score. not Det., not Sgt, not LT. karma rocks! Fortunately in recent years her incompetence has been exposed. Some of her "spanish" friends jumped on her bandwagon only to realize how incapable she really is. Matt, you still stick up for her.. or wait you're too drunk to notice. The CPD doesnt need any additional bad press, however Pena being exposed as an incompetent hack is long overdue. Good riddance-just go away.

12/17/2012 11:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Talcott Elementary School on Oct. 10, 1991,
how in the hell are district 010 police officers going out of their way even to the x-mas party is beyond me!

3rd district for maria pena on midnights is karma!

12/17/2012 09:10:00 PM

Want a bigger disgrace? 15 people retire from IAD and Chief Juan Rivera doesn't even show up to the party.

Real classy. Lost his balls the second they made him exempt. Now he's playing the race card to keep his spot. Lost all respect for this fraud. Pena is what she is, Rivera actually believes he deserves his rank. That is frightening.

12/17/2012 11:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bring back paddling not soap

12/17/2012 11:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...

Maybe this has something to do with this situation, a quote from one of the victim's mother in the Trib article: " My daughter used to be a tomboy,`` Rios said. ``Since this happened, she`s no longer a tomboy. She`s afraid of everything and anything."

12/17/2012 03:26:00 PM

Like what ? Dumbass.

12/17/2012 05:51:00 PM

Like what? The key word there is "tomboy". Who else in that room was a "tomboy" and what is the word "tomboy" sometimes used as a pseudonym for when talking about teen girls. Who?

Did something else happen to that and the other girls during or before that incident? What would come out if someone were to interview them now that they are adults?

"Dumbass"? think about it.

Just for the record, I hope those kids did not suffer any physical or emotional scars. God forbid they were to abuse a child.

12/18/2012 12:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Per Dr. Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Minister of Propaganda, "Tell a lie big enough and repeat it often enough and people will believe it."

12/17/2012 09:50:00 PM


Goebbels has been gone for 67 years now.

Better, more lively, contemporary examples of savage, bald-faced liars right here in our Sanctuary City, in local, state, and federal government, on every TV and radio channel, on every DVD and movie screen, in every publishing house -- and not a "Nazi" in the bunch.

12/18/2012 12:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nonymous said... An average Patrolman with under 5 years on the job in the 006th Dist has 10 X's the street smarts and experience than the new Lt. Would someone in command enlighten the RUSSIAN fRUNT that he is clueless and just plain ignorant. He's unbearable and is going to really get people hurt. Had a family member that worked with him in 014 that said he was a idiot then and was run out by everyone. We can only hope. 12/17/2012 06

Yes the Lt is the idiot. I have no clue what your ramblings mean.

12/18/2012 12:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The comments on the CBS website bury McNumbnuts, nobody beleves him."

12/17/2012 09:50:00 PM

Cool!

He was into a self-pity number on TV today, (roughly) "Yeah, that's me, that's what crazy loony McCarthy says about these guns."

Poor baby.

"McCarthy? MCCARTHY!"

"Yo!"

"Pack yo shit."

12/18/2012 12:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To anyone that wants to know who her clout is, Velez and HDO who at one time was a very powerful organization, that was created to aid in the political power for Daley, that's how there where a handful of hispanics within the command staff for a while. So now this merit hack Pena is using Velez to get to the top but you know the heavier you the harder you fall.

12/18/2012 02:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Yes it was a long time ago. However it was a complete lack of proper judgement. she is a horrible boss. A micro manager that concerns herself with only numbers. Not an original thought has ever sprouted from her lips, ever. Truly disgusting!

12/17/2012 11:04:00 PM

She's a match made in heaven for McRahm, except that she's--oh, never mind.

12/18/2012 05:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

god rham and mcliar has destroyed cpd..

12/18/2012 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

after 20 years on the job po's should be able to have weekends off..

12/18/2012 08:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wanna see stupidity defined? In my district on 1st watch we have a p.o. who is very proactive. She likes to stop a lot of people and make a lot of arrests. Her partner was on call back and will be back in January 2013. So even though she saw first hand how her partner got screwed just because of an allegation she continued to do "aggressive police work" and now with her partner back she said "oh yeah we are going to tear up the west side and be number one in arrests for the watch".

If this isn't stupidity defined then I don't know what it is.

12/17/2012 06:24:00 AM

Maybe she's been dropped on her head a few times.

Some people never, ever, ever learn.

That's what McBingo and the Tutu count on.

Yes. She is so stupid What is wrong with her taking pride in her 70k plus year job. She is so stupid. She should do nothing and just be happy she has a job. Try to hide all day and get paid. Doing the minimum is what has made this country so great in the past right?

----

I am sensing a back lash against all the dogs who seize upon everything and anything to excuse their laziness. Here, a moron has the balls to try and talk crap about this PO for working? Getting sued, getting CRs and all the other BS is all a part of being the police. It happens, you should have known that before you took the job. If it is too much for you, quit so we can replace you with a police officer. You know and we know that you never had any intention of being the police, you are scared little weasels. I am thankful that there were no guys like you in my unit in the corps. No honor, just a bunch of self righteous entitlement minded, lazy children.

12/18/2012 11:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fucking moron... If she did this to my kids I would personally kick her ass

12/18/2012 11:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>>Goebbels has been gone for 67 years now.

Better, more lively, contemporary examples of savage, bald-faced liars right here in our Sanctuary City, in local, state, and federal government, on every TV and radio channel, on every DVD and movie screen, in every publishing house -- and not a "Nazi" in the bunch.

12/18/2012 12:50:00 AM<<<

True perhaps, but he who forgets history is doomed to repeat it.

"Nazi" is derived from the first two syllables of "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei", the official name of the Nazi party, sometimes abbreviated to NSDAP.

In English the official name would be the National Socialist German Workers Party, and its members were sometimes called "National Socialists", but "Nazi" was so much easier to say.

The slang use of the term has come to mean a dictatorship where it crushes dissent, builds a messianic icon leader and redistributes the nations wealth. I could go on.

Nazism or Socialism needs to be a dictatorship. Think about what is going on now in this country.

12/18/2012 01:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...



Just because the city settled the lawsuit doesn't mean anything. As someone who's been through this before, I can tell you this: People are paid to go away. That doesn't mean the officer is always guilty of what they were accused of.
12/17/2012 08:05:00 PM

If the officer isn't guilty of what they were accused of, why pay someone to go away?

12/18/2012 01:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Commander, the citizens of the district are starving for police leadership

MP "Let them eat urinal cake"

12/18/2012 02:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the officer isn't guilty of what they were accused of, why pay someone to go away?

12/18/2012 01:58:00 PM

Is this a trick question?

12/18/2012 06:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If the officer isn't guilty of what they were accused of, why pay someone to go away?"


It's cheaper than going through the entire court process.

It happens all the time in civil court.

12/18/2012 06:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The slang use of the term ["Nazi"] has come to..."

12/18/2012 01:19:00 PM

...the point that it's been repeated so many millions of times that it's lost all hot-button emotional appeal and become merely irritating, especially in light of the way it's applied to individuals and groups which are the diametric opposite of white racial nationalism.

12/18/2012 11:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I am sensing a back lash against all the dogs who seize upon everything and anything to excuse their laziness. Here, a moron has the balls to try and talk crap about this PO for working? Getting sued, getting CRs and all the other BS is all a part of being the police. It happens, you should have known that before you took the job. If it is too much for you, quit so we can replace you with a police officer. You know and we know that you never had any intention of being the police, you are scared little weasels. I am thankful that there were no guys like you in my unit in the corps. No honor, just a bunch of self righteous entitlement minded, lazy children."

Thank you, thank you!!!!

12/19/2012 01:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

after 20 years on the job po's should be able to have weekends off..


Over 20 years here. I have weekends off. School car. At one of the worst schools in the city. Pain in the ass? You bet. But for me, worth it to have a normal work schedule, like most of the world.


12/19/2012 08:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I haven't read the blog in a few days, but this caught my eye. For what its worth, this is not same Maria Pena. There were 2 Maria Pena's in 013th at this time. The one involved in Talcott school incident is heavier, she also married a PO from 013th after 2 PO's and a fireman were on her tail. She choosed a good guy who screwed himself with this Bitch. Got divorced later, names not important since he's back in 013/012 now. I know since I was there at the time and years afterwards. So its not the same and if you think your right go asked any old timer that left in 013th about this, they know the truth about what happen, or the PO that still working there (not PO anymore).

12/19/2012 04:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

01:58 You have no idea what you are talking about. The officer doesnt pay so he has no say in whats paid. The city pays because in most cases it is less than the cost to defend the case. If it costs legal fees of 25,000 why not settle for 10,000 and finally the most important part is with these crazy juries the potential of losing 10 times as much than the settlement As an after thought, some innocent people go to jail and some innocent people lose civil cases

12/19/2012 04:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I haven't read the blog in a few days, but this caught my eye. For what its worth, this is not same Maria Pena. There were 2 Maria Pena's in 013th at this time. The one involved in Talcott school incident is heavier, she also married a PO from 013th after 2 PO's and a fireman were on her tail. She choosed a good guy who screwed himself with this Bitch. Got divorced later, names not important since he's back in 013/012 now. I know since I was there at the time and years afterwards. So its not the same and if you think your right go asked any old timer that left in 013th about this, they know the truth about what happen, or the PO that still working there (not PO anymore).

12/19/2012 04:35:00 PM

You're full of shit. I was there and it was indeed the cross dressing 010th District Commander Maria Pena.

12/20/2012 07:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I haven't read the blog in a few days, but this caught my eye. For what its worth, this is not same Maria Pena. There were 2 Maria Pena's in 013th at this time. The one involved in Talcott school incident is heavier, she also married a PO from 013th after 2 PO's and a fireman were on her tail. She choosed a good guy who screwed himself with this Bitch. Got divorced later, names not important since he's back in 013/012 now. I know since I was there at the time and years afterwards. So its not the same and if you think your right go asked any old timer that left in 013th about this, they know the truth about what happen, or the PO that still working there (not PO anymore).

Stay off the Blog, Deb...your boss is a fucktard. Stop defending her or henceforth you shall be known as Darth Fucktard...

12/22/2012 10:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As long as you wash the dishes afterwards, what's the diference?

12/25/2012 08:23:00 PM  

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