Manpower Shortage Alleviated Again!
(We're going to be a bit sarcastic here first, then serious)
Here comes a wave of new hires! They even put a number on it - 600:
Here comes a wave of new hires! They even put a number on it - 600:
- With crime continuing to plague Chicago, city leaders are promising to put more police on the streets — at least 600 new officer by early this fall.
As CBS 2 [...] reports, 53 graduated Friday.
The graduation marked the realization of a dream for 53 Chicago police officers.
Six-hundred by early fall? By the most liberal interpretation, that means 01 September. Six months training means the 600 must be hired by 01 March - three days from now. We're going to go out on a limb here - based on past history and the amount of parking we saw by the Academy last week, this is more Rahm bullshit, abetted by CBS 2. And the fifty-three recruits doesn't make a dent in the past two years of manpower bleeding.
All that being said,Channel 2 interviews one of the new kids. We aren't going to embarrass him by posting his name and quotes, but it is refreshing to see his "new kid attitude." We remember being somewhat idealistic at the start of our career. We come from police families, so we knew some of the politics, the bitterness, the physical and mental toll of the job, but most of us still remember the excitement of the first months, even years, thinking we were the hottest thing on wheels, chasing the dope, flying to gun calls, pursuing cars and foot chases.
Five years of no hiring almost made us forget that there are people out there who want the job and dream of it as we did. They'll lose a lot of that in the years to come, but it's a nice reminder as we approach the sunset of our careers.
All that being said,Channel 2 interviews one of the new kids. We aren't going to embarrass him by posting his name and quotes, but it is refreshing to see his "new kid attitude." We remember being somewhat idealistic at the start of our career. We come from police families, so we knew some of the politics, the bitterness, the physical and mental toll of the job, but most of us still remember the excitement of the first months, even years, thinking we were the hottest thing on wheels, chasing the dope, flying to gun calls, pursuing cars and foot chases.
Five years of no hiring almost made us forget that there are people out there who want the job and dream of it as we did. They'll lose a lot of that in the years to come, but it's a nice reminder as we approach the sunset of our careers.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
38 Comments:
All that excitement goes out the door after this Department jerks you around a few times. To the new recruits...good luck.
600 new hires!!?!?!?!?
I think that is about as believable as alien abduction.
Does the City have the money??
..can the new hires get guns?
..can the City find ammo to train them with??
Inquiring minds want to know?
The sixty-four thousand dollar question is: How many officers are going to quit or retire by fall?
Over 600 or close to it, right?
They're hiring thousands! No, millions! And at no cost to the taxpayers!
Socialist Propaganda Ministry
Maybe , just maybe we will wake up and start voting the corrupt assholes out and we will se a day where these kids will work for honest government and actually give a shit for more than a year or two. We can hope and dream too. But we can all vote. It's time. Enough is enough. The state is screwed up because of the voters in this county and city. We can fix it with our votes. If we ever get the balls to do it. Be safe out there young ones. Listen and learn...and VOTE.
More "fun with numb3rs" and Axelrodian Rham Rhetoric...
How many coppers have retired since Y2K...
How many hires...
The likely answers to those two questions will be followed by a looooong and awkward silence.
All POSTED "official" numbers have as much credibility as a shadow cast by a silhouette...
MUCH ENERGY devoted by the powers that be to keep the actual manpower numbers out of prying eyes.
Everybody with time on the job remembers what @ 12K coppers "feels like."
This feeling of "not enough help" isn't it... At all!
Chicago's stalwart store-front, make believe clergy are in charge so y'all can forget about that "take the streets back" foolishness.
There's no room in the equation for The Police to be allowed to do anything that would potentially cramp the style of the high-assed and mighty.
The Police exist only to lend a very thin, see-through veneer of law and order, justice and municipal legitimacy in Chicago.
The Police are considered a mere inconvenience and a drag on the financial plans of a lot of so called powerful and prominent people.
Which is why you're seeing an all out push to create as much chaos and run CPD into the ground so Rham, and all the big money Gold Coast, North Shore and Hollyweirders can pick clean what Daley couldn't run off with.
Chicago isn't broke but these people have a hard-on for complete and total involuntary divesture of Police, Fire, Teachers and other "Union" muni employees from their pension monies.
Our snarky side says that's why the big push is on for disarming what's left of the formerly vaunted and feared middle-class of Chicago.
You know... The people who were likely to play by the rules?
Funny... A blurb got out about how only 2% or 3% of the hundreds of thousands of guns in Chicago proper are lawfully registered?
Banning and confiscation are directed at people who play by the rules so they can't fight back when Rahm REALLY starts pissing/shitting on them.
All the stories about how The police lock up mutts with guns only to see the same mutts days or months later.
Doing. The. Exact. Same. Thing.
Who's the enemy again?
How many sgt and Lt . are going to be promote it?
yeah but the new recruits wont have guns. all the gun stores are sold out and more and more gun mfg are joining together not selling guns, parts and ammo to any law enforcement agencies. its not our of bad feelings towards the police, its a message sent to our corrupt and idiotic current government with their ridiculous and dangerous gun grabbing agenda and restrictions and the attack, yes attack on the 2nd amendment. interesting that any of the local news channels hasnt picked up on the story.
There is a class starting march 15th, not sure how many, but I'm pretty sure it's not 600.
Congrats to the new hires.
I sat the test in '06 and '10, and predictably got screwed somehow after going all the way to the interview and passing the psyche.
Shame I'm stuck in revenue with a degree that is doing me no good at this point.
Guy in my gym says he is starting at Top Gun School (TJO Training Center), Tuesday 05 March 13
Your last 2 paragraphs really hit home. Well said, Scc.
Interview him in 3-5 years...
Since when did they add a month to the probationary period? If they did 6 months in the academy, they have 12 months of probation remaining (not the 13 months as stated in the article). Or am I misguided?
I hope that new kid got permission from the supe's office for that interview.
another lie. This will not happen.
To all the new kids; kids unless you have clout somewhere, use this job as a stepping stone to something better - a better department, the State Police, or the Feds - do it for five years or so then move on.
The city and most of the gold stars do not care about you. If you get hurt the medical section will screw you over and over. They don't care about your health. I have been there as has a lot of my friends.
The city also thinks they own you. If you fart the wrong way, the city or any citizen can get a number on you and those idiots at IPRA will take it seriously.
As far as the benefits go, they are slowly being whittled away. By the time you have twenty years on, this place will be a hell hole and possibly bankrupted, but the politicians and their friends will be living large.
Just a few words of advice.
Newspaper people are not very good at math.
his "new kid attitude." We remember being somewhat idealistic at the start of our career.
Shhhhhh, don't scare him away
Fall doesn't even start until 9/22. I would put "early fall" as anytime by mid October, so that'd mean they have until mid April to hire them all...
just wait until the cps lists all the schools it is going to close and these parents start going nuts--- mcwhiskeybreath has guaranteed safe passage to students who will be traversing thru unfamiliar and unsafe neighborhoods--- how he is going to do it is still a mystery--- maybe this magical 600 new hires will be assigned to the after school hand holding detail--- just remember, no pussies or alligator armed individuals need apply....
New hires in '11 won't make up for departing cops, city concedes
Chicago plans to hire 200 officers next year, but projects 300 will leave
November 01, 2010|By Hal Dardick and William Lee, Tribune reporters
After touting for weeks the planned hiring of 200 Chicago police officers next year, the Daley administration admitted Monday that the new cops won't even make up for the number of officers who will depart in 2011.
After touting for weeks the planned hiring of 200 Chicago police officers next year, the Daley administration admitted Monday that the new cops won't even make up for the number of officers who will depart in 2011.
The city will have about 950 vacant police officer positions at the end of this year, said Gene Munin, the city's budget director. Although the city plans to hire 200 officers next year, it projects that 300 will leave the force.
Munin later conceded that the projection of 300 departures was not in keeping with historical patterns. Typically, about 450 officers retire or leave the force for other reasons each year, he said.
To the citizens of Chicago.
Your life, property and well-being are just not as important as my agenda.
The proof is in the above article. City will be 950 officers short of budgeted strength at the end of 2010. Even if the city hires the 200 officers it promised to hire in 2011 the attrition rate will bring the total of vacancies to 1050 officers. Add 600 retirees for 2012 and you are up to 1650 less officers that are on the street. So you have to ask yourself a simple question How did Emmanuel add 1000 more officers to the street (his campaign pledge) when 600 of those officers were already on the street and 1650 officers have retired. Keep paying your taxes, drinking Rahmargaritas and the bigappletinis and remember if I say it long enough and loud enough it must be true. Remember they can't put it on the internet if it's not true, it even says so on the internet, Bonsoir.
After 35YRS. I hated the day I turned in my badge,I felt naked. I was depressed for a couple of months.Then I realized I was thinking in the past,I didn't miss the circus ,but I missed the clowns.Now I shiver to think of having to work for a mayor and bosses that could not give a shit if you lived or died.Good luck you guys ,their are a lot of good people still out there, learn from them.
"more and more gun mfg are joining together not selling guns, parts and ammo to any law enforcement agencies. its not our of bad feelings towards the police, its a message sent to our corrupt and idiotic current government with their ridiculous and dangerous gun grabbing agenda"
I read that too. Unfortunately, their "message" is going to get one of us hurt or killed. All this bull shit is not our fault. We're just here to clean up the mess.
600 wow
in '91-94 tests there were at least 2,800 hired
but 600? wow whatever
Don't be so bitter. CPD needs this youth.
Work is like life. You lose the "fire" what do you have?
Anyone? Whaddaya Have??
Keep hiring more, pension security.
What about all the limited duty officers that will be gone January 1, 2014. FOP lost the arbitration last week and the arbitrator ruled that the city only has to give 2 years non IOD limited duty starting January 1, 2012. Unless there is a rash of "healings" the city will lose more po's
Do the math! The word was "hire" 450-500 by the end of 2012. So they came close and hired that many including the 53 who graduated Friday. Now we are being told 600 on the street by fall including the 53 that just graduated. So how is this added up and who goes on what list? I would love to think this means 1100 new cops. Realistically we gave you the nice 500 number and now we will use the same 500 in the new and sexy 600 number for 2013.
Hey Mcgoof, will you please make the sgt list soon, because the guy in our district that keeps calling all the commanders and watch commanders that he has ever had contact with is getting pathetic. How do you live with yourself kissing so much ass?
Anonymous said...
Don't be so bitter. CPD needs this youth.
Work is like life. You lose the "fire" what do you have?
Anyone? Whaddaya Have??
2/25/2013 03:05:00 PM
A leisurely lunch, a shared bottle of wine, with people you love.
Just hire the Andy Frain ushers in the blue and gold.They keep all in order.
Since when did they add a month to the probationary period? If they did 6 months in the academy, they have 12 months of probation remaining (not the 13 months as stated in the article). Or am I misguided?
2/25/2013 07:47:00 AM
Probably just a typo on the reporter's part. The probation period is 18 months, tho some contract coverage kicks in a 12. Been that way for about 2 contracts.
Welcome aboard kid, I wish you a safe, successful and satisfying career.
Anonymous said...
Since when did they add a month to the probationary period? If they did 6 months in the academy, they have 12 months of probation remaining (not the 13 months as stated in the article). Or am I misguided?
2/25/2013 07:47:00 AM
Probably just a typo on the reporter's part. The probation period is 18 months, tho some contract coverage kicks in a 12. Been that way for about 2 contracts.
2/25/2013 11:14:00 PM
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The 3 and the 5 are two keys apart. Reporters are supposed to be accurate and they're supposed to check their copy before hitting the 'send' button.
More likely, the reporter assumed, or bought into something he/she was told, without verifying it, which benefits the Administration and helps to spread the b.s. that Rahm is hiring WAY more police than he really is.
Anonymous said...
What about all the limited duty officers that will be gone January 1, 2014. FOP lost the arbitration last week and the arbitrator ruled that the city only has to give 2 years non IOD limited duty starting January 1, 2012. Unless there is a rash of "healings" the city will lose more po's
2/25/2013 04:53:00 PM
That is more than other unions won from their departments. Other unions lost ALL non-IOD limited duty. Other police departments have none. The department offers disability insurance that guarantees 60% of your gross salary. I carried that until I was vested at 20 years.
I would advise everyone to do the same. After 20 years you don't ned it but it isn't a bad idea until you get to be 20/50
Young officers especially need that disability insurance. I've seen more than a few officers get hurt off the job and get fucked when their medical time ran out.
Officers are not offered this insurance very many times in their careers. Jump on it when you can.
That is more than other unions won from their departments. Other unions lost ALL non-IOD limited duty. Other police departments have none. The department offers disability insurance that guarantees 60% of your gross salary. I carried that until I was vested at 20 years.
I would advise everyone to do the same. After 20 years you don't ned it but it isn't a bad idea until you get to be 20/50
Young officers especially need that disability insurance. I've seen more than a few officers get hurt off the job and get fucked when their medical time ran out.
Officers are not offered this insurance very many times in their careers. Jump on it when you
Is it offered by the city or the FOP? Where and when can you sign up for it Sounds like a great idea and appears to be much needed. No more hurt your hand off duty and be on limited duty for 20 years
Where can we get the disability insurance?
For the last 2 years 30-45 retirees a month x 12 months =500-600 a year give or take a hundred , so 1800 or more gone. The number of police officer compared to before Rahm took office is way down! All that Rahm needs to do is convince the public they are getting "such a deal" and play fiddler on the roof....If I were a rich man......and he's won!
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