Gun Case Rises from the Dead
- A judge issued an arrest warrant Wednesday for Chicago steel-company heir James B. Finkl on misdemeanor gun charges in a case that had fallen into limbo for nearly three years, until a report in the Chicago Sun-Times prompted a new look at the case.
Cook County Judge Clarence L. Burch ordered the arrest after Finkl, 49, failed to show up in court Wednesday. A City Hall lawyer told the judge the city had tried several times to notify Finkl he needed to be there.
“Issue a warrant,” the judge ordered.
- Finkl faces 40 misdemeanor counts that accuse him of possessing unregistered guns and ammunition within the city limits.
You knew this one had to come back after the Sun Times made it the crux of a hit piece. IAD got involved, FOP got dragged in, the current state of confusion and indecision on gun laws in Illinois make it bendable to all sorts of interpretations.
Or contract negotiations have hit a critical point. Aren't the sergeants counting their ballots this weekend?
Or contract negotiations have hit a critical point. Aren't the sergeants counting their ballots this weekend?
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
51 Comments:
Well, his family has the money. They need to team up with the NRA and take this shit hole of a city and state to court for violation their constitutional rights under the Second Amendment, not to mention the Fourth.
First off, they are not misdemeanor charges they are city code offenses. The other part that isnt being reported is that the bond is $100,000. I've seen people shoot people and not get that. WTF?
They want this guy bad, what the hell did he do to piss someone off that bad?
I work in 018, Meet Finkel once,He is Ok,BULLSHIT ARREST.
Laces out!
This was also in the article: was “obviously avoiding” being served court papers in the case. When the Sheriff comes knocking answer the door. To all the CPD officers who check on us in our one man cars in the same neighborhoods where you all work: THANK YOU!
One would think that supporters of the Second Amendment would be against such an arrest. What was wrong with him owning the firearms? They were not registered? that's a city ordinance, not even a state law, and wasn't said ordinance ruled unconstitutional? even if it's not the same ordinance, why can't a law-abiding citizen of this country, who has a job and employs other American citizens (as opposed to employing illegal immigrants) have as many guns as he wants? The charge for possessing ammunition without a FOID (how many other states issue FOID-type cards to gun owners?) is a charge that the CCSAO has dropped in almost every single gun case i've seen in almost 20 years.
the man's political connection to Shields is just a small sideshow compared to the bigger issue of why can he not own as many guns as he wants to, and why do we have to register our guns, a right given to us by U.S. Constitution, to a municipal authority, which has no authority over the U.S. Constitution.
Do we have to register our right to free speech? to practice religion? to due process? why should the exercise of a Constitutional right cost money?
The statute of limitations is 18 months on a misdemeanor. I hope he files suit against the City.
You have to register ammo now too?
Ballots mailed directly to the sgts union? c'mon give me a break.
What a bunch of crap. Gun laws should target CAREER criminals not a productive member of society. I'd have un registered guns if I wasn't a Leo.
Can it even be possible to charge a guy with violating an ordinance that does not exist? I would love to see the charges.
Just remember that the Scum-Times has been part of the Mayor's Press Office for two decades. You have to wonder if the City is pissed at FOP and the We Are One Coalition for denouncing the Sergeant’s proposed contract offer.
Rahm hates Labor. Remember that:
1. The first thing he tried to do was to chance the makeup of the Pension Boards to get around funding the ARC (Actuarial Required Contribution).
2. Tried to get retirees out of FOP by a By-Law Change.
3. Proposed a contract offer to the Sergeants to lobby against the rest of organized labor in Illinois.
Rahm will not stop until he gets to break organized labor in Chicago.
T.R.P.
Wait til someone finds out who's guns were recovered in that raid. Actually, Rahm knows. Mike won't be happy having to explain this one.
Anonymous said...
This was also in the article: was “obviously avoiding” being served court papers in the case. When the Sheriff comes knocking answer the door. To all the CPD officers who check on us in our one man cars in the same neighborhoods where you all work: THANK YOU!
3/07/2013 12:52:00 AM
When the sheriff comes knocking, answer the door?? Are you high, crazy or just stupid?
Anyone that willingly answers the door for any type of law enforcement is a fucking goof. If it's important or bad news, I'll find out about it sooner or later - probably sooner.
If I'm a bad guy and I think/know the law is at front door looking to arrest me for something, there's no way in hell I'm opening that door. If you want me that bad you're gonna have to work for it. I won't be perched on the roof with my carbine, but I sure the fuck ain't putting the cuffs on myself and jumping into the back seat of your squad car, either.
Finkl has bottomless pockets. When the gun smoke clears, he's gonna be having the last laugh at all the people trying to make his life hell with this contrived loser of a case. The involved officers. The Corp Counsel. The media.
If I were the officers involved - especially the one that wrote that warrant - I'd be especially worried. You may have crossed all your T's and dotted all your I's, but that house...all 14,000 SF of it....is rumored to be wired for sound and video. It's also rumored that the police who came to take that mans guns from his own home let loose with those same guns in the mans basement shooting range. If true, how hypocritical is that? And on camera? Time will show.
This warrant was as petty as they come. EVER. I would be embarrassed to tell anyone I was part of that incident. Same goes for the stroke in 016 that yanked the citizens rifle from the trunk of his car while returning from the range. Absolutely pathetic.
Which brings me full circle. As an officer I advise Joe Citizen to NEVER open the door for the cops unless they have a warrant to come in or YOU called THEM. You can see from these two latest incidents involving LEGALLY OWNED WEAPONS that some officers just don't give a shit about your Constitutional rights. Why cooperate with some jagoff that wants to break it off in your ass?
If it is true that these are only municipal code violations, then this whole stupid thing will backfire on the City.
Oh come on now, like if this is some crime of the century, the city has a ton of hardcore criminals with outsanding warrants so on and so forth, and they wana attack this larry with that BS. maybe they should worry bout the integrity of the fuck up cpd dept, iad, fop, that covered up the shit to begin with, Starting with that COCK-MOE SHIELDS!!
The case that disappeared, now reappears.
Will be interesting to see what the IAD finds out in their investigation about how the case "disappeared"
Mr. Finkl, I smell a big payday for you. Go get'em big guy.
Just leave the state l.....hell the tri county area. Theyll never come get you for this warrant farther than lake county. Hell ive seen burglary warrants they wont go out of state to get.
No Problem! just hire harold brookins
he's got an "in" with tiny
OT (slightly)
Great short video against gun control.
Watch it and pass it along.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=0sujnvIV4g4
Not a LEO, just a lawyer.
I have unregistered guns too. So what. Come and get me Rahm.
"...I work in 018..."
There is no reason to apologize.
Anonymous said...
One would think that supporters of the Second Amendment would be against such an arrest. What was wrong with him owning the firearms? They were not registered? that's a city ordinance, not even a state law, and wasn't said ordinance ruled unconstitutional? even if it's not the same ordinance, why can't a law-abiding citizen of this country, who has a job and employs other American citizens (as opposed to employing illegal immigrants) have as many guns as he wants? The charge for possessing ammunition without a FOID (how many other states issue FOID-type cards to gun owners?) is a charge that the CCSAO has dropped in almost every single gun case i've seen in almost 20 years.
the man's political connection to Shields is just a small sideshow compared to the bigger issue of why can he not own as many guns as he wants to, and why do we have to register our guns, a right given to us by U.S. Constitution, to a municipal authority, which has no authority over the U.S. Constitution.
Do we have to register our right to free speech? to practice religion? to due process? why should the exercise of a Constitutional right cost money?
3/07/2013 02:39:00 AM
Finally, someone else gets it.
Way too many coppers think that only the Police should have guns.
These coppers are what's called "useful idiots".
Why did the caption under the picture of Daniel Shields in the Chicago SunTimes state this is James Finkl?
I see they fixed it today. It looks like someone really has a hard on for Danny Shields.
Looks like someone is quietly turning up the heat on something?
Finkl admitted he lost part of his front brain lobe from a boating accident causing his memory to be impaired. Imagine he comes home with a new rifle and sets it on his front porch, then goes into his town house leaving the rifle because he forgot he had it? He makes the Dems case for gun control. We need another poster child, he ain't it.
Finkl is one of Rahm's buds, expect this to disappear ASAP.
Looks like their is more to this than Finkl.
Greetings from Montana,99% of the homes here have at least one gun or more however we have almost no gun crime. Its not guns its the people who misuse them. So happy I don't live in that shithole city,its been 16 years since I left. No amount of money is worth living there.
I know about unregistered guns ,but ammo?never heard that one.
There is much more to this story, he was arrested fingerprinted at the time, given his ordinace violations and went to court. City nollie case due to not having to go thru hearings on sw. the records say nollied, but when the sun times looks for the file, its lost, as k the city to produce your anovs from three years or wehat happened in court with them. As a matter of fact can someone tell what screen to run, to see how many anovs somebody has reveived. Another scumtimes trying to dirty up us for contract negotiations and also its their argument to ban assault weapons which by the way there was four of them.
Let me guess, one or more or the guns was used in a homicide?
So happy I don't live in that shithole city,its been 16 years since I left. No amount of money is worth living there.
3/07/2013 05:17:00 PM
yes, but the hunting here is most delicious.
Chalkie
Finkl admitted he lost part of his front brain lobe from a boating accident causing his memory to be impaired. Imagine he comes home with a new rifle and sets it on his front porch, then goes into his town house leaving the rifle because he forgot he had it? He makes the Dems case for gun control. We need another poster child, he ain't it.
3/07/2013 05:00:00 PM
imagine that you posted this and forgot you did.
ie., 'geez, what fucking democrat thought up this mickey mouse nonsense strawman hypothetical?'
Anonymous said...
I know about unregistered guns ,but ammo?never heard that one.
3/07/2013 06:45:00 PM
The Chicago Gun Registration ordinance is full of "gotchas".
Always has been that way on ammo. You can't possess ammo unless you have a gun registered for that ammo.
So you ammo collectors are SOL.
Gun Registration is a big waste of city time, money and resources. It serves no purpose in and of itself. The only reason to have a gun registration scheme is to facilitate a future confiscation action.
None of the pols will admit it, but that is what their long-term aim is. Even Steven Chapman, the Trib writer, does not get it. While the Constitution may prohibit confiscation, it also prohibited Chicago's gun reg ordinance.
But it took 25 years to be affirmed.
And how is a citizen to know what the ordinance says? Why doesn't Chicago put its ordinances up on the web for all to see?
Anonymous said...
What a bunch of crap. Gun laws should target CAREER criminals not a productive member of society. I'd have un registered guns if I wasn't a Leo.
3/07/2013 07:57:00 AM
I have unregistered guns and I am a Libra,
3/07/2013 12:52:00 When the sheriff comes knocking, answer the door?? Are you high, crazy or just stupid?
Hey dumb fuck when the police have a warrant an you don't answer the door they can knock it down. Now go back to law school.
As I,have stated in the past,when you piss one of those in authority off they get you good ! made a felon out of me right S.S.!!
He has regularly offered employment to suspended coppers. He is a stand-up guy, and if they get away with screwing him, then all of us need to watch out.
What angle would this story take if it turns out that a p/o or his brother purchased the guns and they were in Finkl's house. What would happen if they were later transferred to Finkl after his FOID was approved by the State? Would the purchase of guns and the possession of the guns by a self admitted person with diminished mental capacity be a crime? Would that crime be worth covering up if the possessor was also a business partner and contributor to some type of elected non-government office election? The real question is if this is the case, why would the p/o put his fellow brothers on the job in a tough situation. Because he or they are very calculated self centered people that only look out for their own interest. Thats what we should all worry about with the ongoing contract talks. Who's losing what and what is the end game for the person acting on our behalf.
My 2 cents are not worth shit, but there is more to this story than we all know.
(Anonymous said...
Finkl admitted he lost part of his front brain lobe from a boating accident causing his memory to be impaired. Imagine he comes home with a new rifle and sets it on his front porch, then goes into his town house leaving the rifle because he forgot he had it? He makes the Dems case for gun control. We need another poster child, he ain't it.
3/07/2013 05:00:00 PM))
Nice analogy, Moron... Maybe you forgot to get your brain out of the veggie bin in the fridge before you posted this...
Hey dumb fuck when the police have a warrant an you don't answer the door they can knock it down. Now go back to law school.
Hey Dumbfuck, the original post was about being served papers for a court appearance, not a search warrant. You can't bust a door in to serve a summons, numbnuts.
Furthermore, an arrest warrant by itself does not allow law enforcement personnel to boot down a door without being able to articulate probable cause that the wanted offender is home at the time of forced entry. But guys like you will always concoct that PC. We'll be reading about strokes like you in the papers when you step on your dick too many times.
Reading is a skill, simpleton. Learn it sometime. Knowledge of the law is also a good thing to have, dumb-dumb. Maybe you're the one that needs to "go back to law school".
Now come outta Moms basement for some sunlight and fresh air, they both do a body and mind good.
How is it anyone can have an UNREGISTERED GUN>?>? The first thing they do when you buy a gun is register the #'s three times to Sunday with as many agencies as they can .. which would mean that UNLESS someone had a gun BEFORE they started doing the paper work there is no way ANY gun can be unregistered..
Definition of infringe
verb (infringes, infringing, infringed)
[with object]
actively break the terms of (a law, agreement, etc.):
making an unauthorized copy would infringe copyright
act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on:
his legal rights were being infringed
[no object]:
I wouldn’t infringe on his privacy
Bit by bit they encroach on our rights to the point where exercising our constitutional right makes us criminals.
In fact, those who undermine, limit and take away our constitutional right are the criminals.
They haven't the balls to change the constitution legally, for if they did there would be a massive push back and the Rights wreckers would be smited.
The only way the encroachment on this Right is going to stop is if we are willing to die to preserve.
They are never going to stop trying to make it so the people are unable to fight tyranny.
Live Free or Die
-not a cop
My 2 cents are not worth shit, but there is more to this story than we all know.
3/08/2013 08:36:00 AM
sure there is, like, when did a medical assessment of 'diminished capacity' become a legal, court finding/judgment?
and when did a political agenda become a 'search for truth'? whether that political agenda is city government politics or union politics? or both?
As I,have stated in the past,when you piss one of those in authority off they get you good ! made a felon out of me right S.S.!!
3/08/2013 07:08:00 AM
don't you mean 'abusing their' authority?
I have unregistered guns and I am a Libra,
3/08/2013 02:22:00 AM
which makes you a danger to yourself?
And how is a citizen to know what the ordinance says? Why doesn't Chicago put its ordinances up on the web for all to see?
3/08/2013 01:00:00 AM
what, and tip their hand before they're ready to begin confiscations?
Maybe a layer can chime in here..but did Jim need to register his guns if he was or worked for a licensed private security contractor governed by the Department of Professional Regulation?
I thought 8-20-140(f)of the municipal code exempts him from registration?
Maybe I'm not understanding the charges or he is unlicensed with the state?
I have unregistered guns and I am a Libra,
3/08/2013 02:22:00 AM
which makes you a danger to yourself?
3/08/2013 05:29:00 PM
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No; that would be a gemini.
have unregistered guns and I am a Libra,
3/08/2013 02:22:00 AM
which makes you a danger to yourself?
3/08/2013 05:29:00 PM
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No; that would be a gemini.
3/09/2013 12:16:00 AM
uh, i take it you've never dated a Libra.
And how is a citizen to know what the ordinance says? Why doesn't Chicago put its ordinances up on the web for all to see?
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They are there.
http://www.amlegal.com/library/il/chicago.shtml
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