Parking Feud?
DNAInfo.com says there's an ongoing feud with CPD versus the Parking Enforcement drones:
- A running feud between Chicago Police and city workers who write parking tickets — known as parking enforcement aides — has gotten so bad that city leaders are now trying to iron things out, a watchdog report issued Thursday says.
The quarterly report from Inspector General Joseph Ferguson said an investigation into a "public screaming match ... between a PEA and a sworn police officer" laid bare "the existence of a more widespread discord" between the city's Police Department and the Finance Department employees.
The "screaming match," if we recall correctly, involved a Parking Enforcement Aide writing street cleaning tickets in an area of responsibility usually patrolled by a regular traffic car. This lead to hurt feelings and possibly a CR number being filed along with complaints about the Parking Enforcement bureau.
As we correctly pointed out in October of 2009:
As we correctly pointed out in October of 2009:
- Compliance violations (front/rear plates) and meters (surprise!) showed large increases while Rush Hour and Street Cleaning tickets (both traditionally police written) had double digit decreases. And as the manpower shortages continue to leave police running from job to job and unable (or even unwilling) to perform ticket writing duties, we expect a bigger shift toward "revenue" writers rather than police.
DNAInfo.com says this makes the blog "...notoriously snarky..." We'd say it just made us observant more nearly five years ago, and as it turns out, completely correct.
Anyone know if we're still actively feuding with the PEA's? We haven't noticed and we'd like to know if we have to tell everyone to pick it up a bit.
Anyone know if we're still actively feuding with the PEA's? We haven't noticed and we'd like to know if we have to tell everyone to pick it up a bit.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
110 Comments:
Why the fuck would you argue about who gets to write who a parking ticket? "Please, I need VRI!!" What a fucking joke.
Maybe the A&E network can produce a special Chicago edition of "Parking Wars?" That'd be fun to watch.
Want me to write some tickets. .....give me a contract.
And not 1 or 2% like we got last time while the teachers got 4%.
I can write my pay in tickets each day without going out of my way.
Motivate me.
One of those cockroaches wrote an unmarked MP plate vehicle in 017 a while back. She knew it was a police car and wouldn't speak to the officers.
I'm glad you are making mention of this article.
The Fued is On!
My meter had expired by 3 minutes, I walked out of the restaurant to pay the box and a ticket was already placed on my windshield, right by my FOP stickers.
Now, I was late, I andim this, but come on discretion COULD have been given. We give discretion all the time when we stop motorist, Depending on the drivers attitude, I give him/her a break and not write them a citation. These parking meter PRICKS have a 5 point Star pretending/wanting to be the POLICE. Now, they are even dressing like the police with cargo-pants, the Chicago Flag Patch.
Fuck Them! It's on now.
I remember in the old 18th district, we would double park in the back of the station to wait for the other watch to end their tour and leave. Meter Maids wrote all of the police officers personal vehicles.
Meter Maids would use an M&M box and place it on the front windshield to identify themselves. We looked for and found their vehicles and had them all towed.
I say the Fued is still on.
Nothing buy extreme silliness.
I remember there was a Wee-little sgt who lives in the west end of 008 who had to flex his big bad muscles to a dept of revenue agent because he was writing his neighbor a ticket.. The Wee-little man tried to order him to not write it because he was a big bad sgt and the revenue write pretty much said so what. So the wee little man hid behind his star and got the guy locked up for assault. I guess the wee-man didnt like loosing the argument and instead of handling it like a man he did what many of us do on this job unfortunately, revert to the power trip saying im the police and now you will go to jail. Listen, if your off duty then you are off duty. I worked with this little man when he had a car load of guns driving around doing nothing in his elite unit.. always flexing his muscle and big attitude for his little stature. If your neighbor is getting a ticket then your neighbor should follow the rules. Im a copper and I have gotten plenty of tickets.. you wanna know why??? because I broke the parking laws... its that simple, now where do I pay my fine for MY mistakes. Coppers egos and power trip cant handle the fact that civilians will ticket them and not give them a play. it happens, we are our own worst enemy and we screw with everyone else... well, now it is their turn and there is nothing we can do about it.. always treat people with respect, you never know who they are or how they can get you back down the line.
The PEA's are a joke. They would ambush the Academy area constantly to nail recruits for the most ridiculous tickets. One girl in my class found a $250 ticket on her window for "illegal tint". How do you ticket a parked car for that... Not counting the fact they towed our class Commander's vehicle for being parked literally 2 inches past a tow sign. They ticketed me for being parked too close to a hydrant... Yet I was well past the 15" mark. The PEA's can pound sand.
Not that I plan on writing a parking ticket in the near future - if ever again, but I will say one thing:
Non-sworn PEAs WILL step-down and away from ANY kind of investigation I may be conducting, the issuance of a parking ticket or otherwise. Failure to respond to my lawful order to vacate the scene WILL result in their 19K for obstruction and anything else that stems from the crossing of our paths gone awry.
Some of these motherfuckers are worse than the tow drivers when it comes to the Ignorance Factor. I mean, maybe I wasn't informed to the contrary, but a reflective vest and Cracker Jack "badge" doesn't mean shit to me if it involves interfering with my official duties.
I'm not painting them all with a single stroke of the brush, but some of these overzealous PEAs (many that I've dealt with or observed personally) need to know that sworn trumps civilian every time.
PEAs are Shortshank's revenge against The Police for sitting on their "Revenue Generators" in retaliation for being cut out of court overtime.
Stealing from/curtailing the money making opportunities of Policemen is never a smart thing.
When there were plenty of court opportunitites, Coppers were making a killing and the city was too...
Shit... Court was a full time job with part time hours for a lot of us!
Lock up one passable shit-head rolling in a non-compliant ghetto flyer?
Lock up 2, 3, or 4?
Shit... Who got da dope? Who got da gun? Who got da probation violation? Driver gets that ass tore up if he's DUI. Car? Fuck dat car! Impounded. Oh? You're slick and called your boys to steal the car out of the Police Lot? HAHAHAHAHA! Lock their dumb asses up too.
Of course, this was when we had the time and street level manpower to give these muthafuckahs the TERRORS instead of this running from call to call by intentional design bullshit.
A two man UNIFORM CAR racking up sometimes as many as 20+ heads in a week.
life was good, the money was better and Daley HATED IT!
That was when they started peeling court away from us.
Coppers were quick to call bullshit.
"No money for me? No revenue for you!"
That was how PEAs and everybody else came into being.
So, you know who owns DNAinfo, right? The Daddy of the Ricketts boys who pretend they really own the Cubs. Daddy runs it.
Can someone explain the part about "notoriously snarky and anonymous?"
Or is this someone else who desperately want The Police to "sit down and shut up?"
And while we're at it...
Why the hell is that?
What is it that makes Policemen so dangerous that the powers that be want to "shut down that blog" and we hear the catch-all accusation of "that blog is bringing discredit to the department?"
Maybe they could ask 1100x for his opinion on how to fix this problem. I mean with the great job he is doing in the 11th District, maybe he could apply his great knowledge of street work to this problem as well. Just look at all the good that's happened to 011 since he rode into town on his horse after promising 35th Street that all shootings would come to an end. A short list of those accomplishments would include: shootings up 300 percent, now young children are even being gun down in these violent streets, he has dumped all the white shirts that he can, the rest have just left all thanks to his "you suck as a supervisor and I am going to tell you why and how I am a better supervisor" speaches that last hours long, activity from officers has taken a nose dive (was on the rise after 1100 arrived but quickly dove into the toilet after 1100x arrived) and let's not forget his greatest accomplishment: the absolute worst deployment of officers within the district on his pointless silly "missions" where all these cars drive in circles for hours with zero results. What a great leader 1100x is.
I work in 014 days. This jag off pea parks at a hydrant and then I watch him ticket the block off western and cortland. So he then gets in his personal car blow through the stop sign while talking on the phone and crossing 4 lanes of traffic durning morning rush hour. So I pull him over and He comes charging out of his car at me in his little meter maid outfit with his badge around his neck. I said, "get back in your car like 3 times". He did not pay attention until I put my hand on my taser and then he went back to his car. I told him what I observed. His excuse he was in official duty. He wasn't even using his own car he borrowed his friends car. I said, "he needed to be a bit more compliant if he is going to be driving around in a personal car".He said he was going to call his supervisor--I said, "I really did not care what he did" I wrote him for everything I could think of -- long list. He drove away Mfing me and I drove away smiling. They are assholes and DO have Monthly quotas. So if anyone should be investigated it should be the meter maids or what ever you call them. They don't like the police and if they see you in uniform or see any police stickers in your car they will write you. They are not our friends and never will be.
I have watched them stroll down the street then glance over and see police stickers on a vehicle across the street then bolt over to see if the vehicle is all compliant. I wonder if there were a M&M bag in the windshield if they would right the ticket?
don't know about the wars, but on the dummy scale, the parking enforcement folks are very high, only to be outdone by the tma's at Midway....
ghetto m & m's (meter maids) are slow and slower when they walk down the street looking for parkers..funny how they can move there asses to write a coppers car!
We should all care about this. This is Rahm's master plan to destroy the police Department.
Yep...they're horrible. Was writing some the other day and one walks right in front of me and starts writing. I could care less but for the principle of it. They're usually ghetto assholes who do it just to piss us off. In fact it has gotten so bad the main reason I write Parkers is to piss them off! And god forbid you get one from them! Don't even ask for a courtesy. And if I see the van that drops them off...i hammer that too. Fuck them
Why is it that almost every PEA is a head bobbing, gum smacking, phone permanently attached to her ear, ignorant goof?
In my opinion they can write all the tickets they want, but DO NOT TREATMENT ME DISRESPECTFULLY. The PEA think this is a game writing police vehicles and POs cars off duty?
If the game is truly on, the PEAs have no idea what they are in for.
Loop Traffic coming out of the Kraft Building years ago...
The jokers who worked there told us recruits that it was ok to park on the street for roll-call, just shake your ass to move your car.
Never forgot those rotten fucks laughing up their sleeves at a bunch of recruits with tickets on their cars.
They WATCHED the meter maids bang everybody.
Went to the Commander... "Get the fuck outta my office recruits! You make enough money so pay the fucking tickets!"
>We're All Blue. Some are Blue-er than others.<
Hunted for the meter maids cars for 3 days... Found 'em...
There were tears and threats of c/r numbers because 100 some recruits tore the meter maids up.
Naturally the Commander was beside himself because "Those Fucking Recruits" had the nerve to hit back.
PEAs still instigate goofy shit by hunting for Police vehicles to write.
Their cover story is that they have a quota of 100 or 200 tickets a day to write.
Funny... Never saw them fucking with municipal executive sedans.
A big fuck you to the Police by Daley giving them stars patterned after ours.
That is an intentional dilution of our authority.
I don't know about feuding, but I do know I wouldn't piss on one of them if they were on fire. If they ever get beat down by some angry vehicle owners, I'll still obviously respond, but probably follow all traffic laws while en route.
I don't care who writes the damn tickets, just write them! Rush hour lanes are useless because nobody gets ticketed, and one car parked in the rush hour lane means the lane can't be used.
They ticketed my smart car once, I should have only gotten half of a ticket because it is only half of a car.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
The PEA's in Bridgeport write a ticket for parking on the street during a baseball game. They write this violation in the months of January, February, March, and all the other off season months. Citizens come into the 009th dist. pissed off. I believe they get referred to the alderman's office. The struggling small business's are especially targeted by this ghetto-for hire PEA's. Don't forget about that crap they pulled when a fall Marine's funeral procession was targeted. This is a direct reflection of the Mayors attitude towards citizens.
On the North Side they drop them off from a van and they wander around walking up and down Clark and side streets in the Restaurant District. As soon as the meter expires they write the ticket, no time gap, no mercy. They don't do this on the West or South sides because they know they would get their asses beat. I am looking forward to the day I can watch some pissed off White guy catch one of them and beat the shit out of one of them. Now as a cop I should not feel this way; I almost feel guilty, but I do not. What they are doing is destroying business and the quality of life for Northsiders. Don't expect a quick response for that 10-1.
Anonymous said...
I'm glad you are making mention of this article.
The Fued is On!
My meter had expired by 3 minutes, I walked out of the restaurant to pay the box and a ticket was already placed on my windshield, right by my FOP stickers.
Now, I was late, I andim this, but come on discretion COULD have been given. We give discretion all the time when we stop motorist, Depending on the drivers attitude, I give him/her a break and not write them a citation. These parking meter PRICKS have a 5 point Star pretending/wanting to be the POLICE. Now, they are even dressing like the police with cargo-pants, the Chicago Flag Patch.
Fuck Them! It's on now.
7/19/2014 02:02:00 AM
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Wow. Thats crap that you were treated like anyone else!
Yes, it's true, these assholes act like they are the police
Yes, there is open conflict. How about when the Dept of Revenue people were writing tickets at the fallen marine's funeral 2 years ago at St John Fisher in 022? Writing the mourners and squad cars? Their answer...so what? Their boss said to submit paper and they would call City Hall for approval. Thank goodness all the supervisors and the Commander at the time said here's your approval, and flipped them the bird. They also meet in 022 in the morning and go to their designated spots for the day, ticketing squad cars on the way out when they can.
Just a reminder, they are not emergency vehicles, so when they stop in the middle of the street to drop off a group of writers, they are obstructing traffic. Same goes for when they stop their bicycles in the middle of the street, bicycles are required to obey all traffic laws (they must park the bike against the curb, dismount, and walk over to the car they intend to write).
Just saying.
BGA needs to investigate the "parking aides." Most have significant criminal histories and are cop haters. A lot of them don't even have valid licenses.
Remember when these revenue agents are on bikes they are subject to the IVC. They must stop at stop signs, signal turns, etc..... FYI......and they get hit with a mover not an ANOV that gets thrown out, but a real mover in traffic court. No way a judge gonna throw that ticket out with a court room full of people who probably got hammered by these revenue agents themselves. The officer just may get an applause......
'Snarky blog'?? rotflmao!
Agree with you totally "I fart in your general direction."
They are such dipshits. See them in 19 and there's this one guy who dresses like he's going to combat. They have NO common sense. I see them writing the tickets on these guys double parked delivering a bed or something. There's no parking in 19 for the most part and these wanna-bes are like little rats waiting to run out and write some working guy doing his job. I will never give any of them a break (and I give alot).
One of those cockroaches wrote an unmarked MP plate vehicle in 017 a while back. She knew it was a police car and wouldn't speak to the officers.
7/19/2014 01:42:00 AM
There are still doing it. Coppers don't pay, they just spend half a tour writing paper to get it killed. Why the
city allows this to happen is a mystery.
Seems simple, tell the PEAs not to write M plates and discipline them when they do.
Why would a cop argue with a meter maid over writing a street cleaning ticket?
A PEA wrote a Parker on a marked vehicle in 020 after she observed the coppers park, walk into a take out place and come out with their lunch In a matter of less than 5 minutes..
A Mexican standoff occurred as Supervisors from the CPD and DOR got into it.
Cops so that one
I can understand why there's hard feelings. I was downtown parking, went to the box to pay and by the time I got back to my car the PEA was just finishing writing my car a ticket. I showed her my receipt with the time stamped prior to her time stamp,identified myself as a PO and told her to nonsuit the ticket, which she refused saying she couldn't do that. I didn't have time to wait around for her supervisor and got out of the ticket by mailing it in with a copy of my receipt but these are
the lazy a**holes we're dealing with.
A good Foot guy usually had control of the main drag at his discretion and the first 20 street cleaners, the Aides got the side streets and everything else. A good Beat guy also knows his Aide and his spot. We all have turds for bosses and they all want "activity" without quotas.
So unless the Aides are poaching or not playing by the rules, why argue? If they write us...who's at fault?
- Was it on The Rockford Files, he would pull an old license plate from a batch in his trunk and use magnets to attach it to his regular plate?
Hey 2:25 a.m. It's obvious to everyone that you are a PEA. Stop pretending to be the police. You are making a fool of yourself. Now, go to some chat line at 2 am and tell them what a big man/woman you are from your parent's basement.
Might want to ask the Rush street goons about this. Quite the uproar when iad did a sting on them after they kept threatening the PEA's with arrest for ticketing the cars they were "comping".
I'm going to sound off on this from the Finance PEA side of things.
This IGO report and DNAInfo story are the result of a pissing match in 024 back in 2012.
PEAs got to the street cleaning before the Traffic Cars did, and one of the Cops wrote and Air Mailed A Parker on the revenue can for a street cleaning violation. There was supposedly a vocal verbal exchange witnesses by civilians that contacted IPRA and made 311 complaints over both peoples conduct.
I know for a Fact that a couple of 29 day suspensions have resulted over this issue.
My observational points:
1. park legally. city policy is to park legally 100% of the time with your city vehicle. You are required to pay the meter on breaks and on lunch. CPM is ticketing all M or U or MP plated vehicles for meter violations and the Comptroller can't make them stop.
2. All or none. If you are going to write street cleaning and rush hour, don't forget that asshole parked on a hydrant for dry cleaning or Starbucks. Or the moron Beer Truck in a bike lane. Either write so many damn tickets every day that all we PEA's have left to do is check meters or don't write a damn one, stick to movers and ANOVs.
3. New department policy is to report to IPRA or the IGO any and all city employees that attempt to pull the "I'm a cop/city employee" stunt to avoid a ticket. You'd be amazed how often we have to actually do this in 022/018/016/024.
4. I emailed SCC about this back in 2012 and they were appalled that a patrol cop would be stupid enough to issue a parking ticket to a City Parking Enforcement vehicle .
And lastly:
5. It is City Policy to enforce all vehicles for parking and compliance violations. State and Municipal and Gvt vehicles that are NOT MARKed Police or Fire Department vehicles are NOT EXEMPT.
Personally I Respect the Police regardless of the city I live or work in.
But once you get mouthy with me, I don't care of your a PPO or McDrunky's driver, I'll write you for every little nitpicky thing I can legally get away with.
I am that Guy on a Bike frequently seen in 016 and 020 and 018 and 011.
It's not personal, this is business.
Anonymous said...
I'm glad you are making mention of this article.
The Fued is On!
My meter had expired by 3 minutes, I walked out of the restaurant to pay the box and a ticket was already placed on my windshield, right by my FOP stickers.
Now, I was late, I andim this, but come on discretion COULD have been given. We give discretion all the time when we stop motorist, Depending on the drivers attitude, I give him/her a break and not write them a citation. These parking meter PRICKS have a 5 point Star pretending/wanting to be the POLICE. Now, they are even dressing like the police with cargo-pants, the Chicago Flag Patch.
Fuck Them! It's on now.
7/19/2014 02:02:00 AM
There used to be a Dept of Revenue facility over on Ashland near Diversey. I hammered every meter maid's car I could identify around there. And every Dept of Revenue vehicle I saw in the entire district got ticketed, moving even, let them prove otherwise. Never heard a word about it. When that call would come out, "assist the meter maid" well fuck them.
Anonymous said...
Want me to write some tickets. .....give me a contract.
And not 1 or 2% like we got last time while the teachers got 4%.
I can write my pay in tickets each day without going out of my way.
Motivate me.
7/19/2014 12:28:00 AM
Those huge teacher's contracts, 7% a year and such, were done after the teachers agreed to a pension holiday for Mumbles. They were too stupid to realize they got a raise with their own pension money. Now their pension fund is in the dumper and Daley is refusing to go to court and there is not a judge in Chicago with the guts to send the Sheriff to go get him. Same with Federal Court. Talk about untouchable.
I Fart In Your General Direction said...
Not that I plan on writing a parking ticket in the near future - if ever again, but I will say one thing:
Non-sworn PEAs WILL step-down and away from ANY kind of investigation I may be conducting, the issuance of a parking ticket or otherwise. Failure to respond to my lawful order to vacate the scene WILL result in their 19K for obstruction and anything else that stems from the crossing of our paths gone awry.
Okay....
Here's the problem with that.
You must prove to them you are on a Call. And simply being "da police" isn't proof enough.
PEA's Are Sworn to enforce Municipal Code violations of Title 9. There is nothing in title 9 that states I must abandon my duties just because a cop tells me to do so. And that is also confirmed by Alderman Burnettd Chief if Staff for the Traffic and Pedestrian Safety Committee.
You please try that. Please remember what happened to the cop in 001/018 that tried a similar stunt with a TMA that wrote his car. TMA got promoted and Paid. Cop got serious time off.
SCC said: "The "screaming match," if we recall correctly, involved a Parking Enforcement Aide writing street cleaning tickets in an area of responsibility usually patrolled by a regular traffic car. This lead to hurt feelings and possibly a CR number being filed along with complaints about the Parking Enforcement bureau."
I emailed you about this guys. Street cleaning is First come first serve. With manpower down city wide, I'd think you 60k+ a year hard chargers would have better things to do than generate revenue for Rahm .
Unable or unwilling to perform ticket writing duties?
Bull.
Drive around the Central Business District any day of the week.
Cops on foot near Water Tower Place writing meters and street cleaning.
Cops in bikes writing Parker's near Van Buren and Wabash on all those "free non-metered" spaces the motorcycles park in.
Cops in 018 that do nothing but drive around Hudson and Chicago writing 30 foot to Stop Sogn tickets or any other Parker.
Cops in 018 north of North Ave hitting street cleaning with 3 Squads And a Segway. Every cop ticket has the same time on it for a 3 block radius though. street cleaning tickets all issued by 9:30 but all have a 9:05 time on them.
Traffic Cars should be dealing with Traffic .... iE Moving violations. Not Parking violations.
And as for the above comment question about the Tinted windows ticket being issued to a parked car.
Before that ordinance was yanked from a ticket that could be issued at all, the ordinance was amended to be a park/stand as well as a mover.
But I wouldn't actually expect anyone outside of finance to actually know that, since I've seen Cracked windshield tickets stuck on parked cars And that is a moving violation that isn't allowed to be issued to a parked vehicle.
Ok what would you do? One way street, kids camp bus stops to pick up kids. Warning lights on and blocking traffic , one lane one way. Cop behind bus starts on siren/horn to move bus. Gets out of car and starts screaming in front of kids and moms at driver "move move move before i get angry. " Total a hole. Worth complaing to dist commander? Or Let it go?
The PEA's are a joke. They would ambush the Academy area constantly to nail recruits for the most ridiculous tickets. One girl in my class found a $250 ticket on her window for "illegal tint". How do you ticket a parked car for that... Not counting the fact they towed our class Commander's vehicle for being parked literally 2 inches past a tow sign. They ticketed me for being parked too close to a hydrant... Yet I was well past the 15" mark. The PEA's can pound sand.
They are a joke. They ticketed my car in front of the house for a tint. U R right $250.00 ticket. I bknow shouldnt of had it tinted and either should she. Better get it removed or more tickets to follow
I'm glad you are making mention of this article.
The Fued is On!
My meter had expired by 3 minutes, I walked out of the restaurant to pay the box and a ticket was already placed on my windshield, right by my FOP stickers.
Now, I was late, I andim this, but come on discretion COULD have been given. We give discretion all the time when we stop motorist, Depending on the drivers attitude, I give him/her a break and not write them a citation. These parking meter PRICKS have a 5 point Star pretending/wanting to be the POLICE. Now, they are even dressing like the police with cargo-pants, the Chicago Flag Patch
Have a better one Parked, then started to walk to the pay station. By the time I put the money in and got my receipt and returned to my car, there was a ticket on it. This was a meter guy and they sit in their own cars,pre write most of the ticket and stick it to you. Their bosses must be demanding so many tickets a day
"My meter had expired by 3 minutes, I walked out of the restaurant to pay the box and a ticket was already placed on my windshield, right by my FOP stickers."
You lost any argument to contest that ticket when I read "right by my FOP stickers". My suggestion to you in 3 simple steps:
1). Pay the ticket as you were wrong and freely admit it
2). Scrape those FOP stickers off the windshield immediately
3). Wash the hairgel out, kid
P.S. - DON'T go replacing those FOP stickers by dangling your winter hat band from your rearview mirror, Hair Gel.
The PEA's are a joke. They would ambush the Academy area constantly to nail recruits for the most ridiculous tickets. One girl in my class found a $250 ticket on her window for "illegal tint". How do you ticket a parked car for that... Not counting the fact they towed our class Commander's vehicle for being parked literally 2 inches past a tow sign. They ticketed me for being parked too close to a hydrant... Yet I was well past the 15" mark. The PEA's can pound sand.
Because you are a recruit in the academy it doesn't mean you can do what you want. Tinted windows? It can be parking or moving violation - read the ordinance. Tow for 2" in tow zone - I call bullshit. If you were correct with distance of the hydrant than you can contest it.
I've never seen PEA's in the ghetto but they always write people in taxpaying areas.
If I get one of those PEA's pricks on a traffic stop there will be no breaks!!!
Wrote me a parking ticket one morning. I was wrong & I paid the ticket !!!
I live on west end of 008 and have a driveway with signs clearly posted. BEWARE OF DOGS, PRIVATE PROPERTY- NO TRESPASSING. Last summer I was taking out the trash cans at 0600hrs to the street for pickup. I had left my driveway gate open and the next thing I know some M-1 wearing a blue hoodie, cargo pants and had an orange vest wrapped up in his back pocket is walking up towards my yard and asked me if I had a city sticker. I told him he was trespassing and I told him to leave or he would be arrested. He stated he was revenue, and I then called my German Shepherd who promptly told him to get his punk ass off his property. That idiot ran so fast it was funny. Captured the whole thing on video and yes, I filed a complaint against his ass.
Nothing like the intimidating bark and teeth of a pure bred German Shepherd. The dog ate Steak and Veggies that evening..
I never saw that lil punk in the area after that.
The war is on.
The PEA's are a joke. They would ambush the Academy area constantly to nail recruits for the most ridiculous tickets. One girl in my class found a $250 ticket on her window for "illegal tint". How do you ticket a parked car for that... Not counting the fact they towed our class Commander's vehicle for being parked literally 2 inches past a tow sign. They ticketed me for being parked too close to a hydrant... Yet I was well past the 15" mark. The PEA's can pound sand.
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The only thing I'll give you here is the illegal tint ticket.
The rest . . . Seriously?
You were illegally paked!
Past the sign is illegal unless someone at the Academy didn't teach you that !
I've gotten plenty of tickets over the years. Not one was written erroneously.
Stop looking like a fool and thinking that you deserve some special consideration.
It's been awhile since I wrote parking tickets. I thought there was a 5 minute Grace period for the new meter box tickets. That way you can't get one when you walk to the box to pay your ticket. I also seem to remember that delivery trucks were given time to make their delivery.
I work in 014 days. This jag off pea parks at a hydrant and then I watch him ticket the block off western and cortland. So he then gets in his personal car blow through the stop sign while talking on the phone and crossing 4 lanes of traffic durning morning rush hour. So I pull him over and He comes charging out of his car at me in his little meter maid outfit with his badge around his neck. I said, "get back in your car like 3 times". He did not pay attention until I put my hand on my taser and then he went back to his car. I told him what I observed. His excuse he was in official duty. He wasn't even using his own car he borrowed his friends car. I said, "he needed to be a bit more compliant if he is going to be driving around in a personal car".He said he was going to call his supervisor--I said, "I really did not care what he did" I wrote him for everything I could think of -- long list. He drove away Mfing me and I drove away smiling. They are assholes and DO have Monthly quotas. So if anyone should be investigated it should be the meter maids or what ever you call them. They don't like the police and if they see you in uniform or see any police stickers in your car they will write you. They are not our friends and never will be.
Do me a favor,
If you ever see a Department of Finance or Revenue employee operating out of an Unmarked/Non M plate vehicle please call 744-PARK and report it to the Director of Security. Unlike City Clerk Licnese Investigators whom use their personal vehicles by department policy, Finance PEA's are restricted Per Policy to 3 modes of transportation while hunting for violations: Foot, Bike, Marked Department M plate.
Ser Co uses passenger plated white vans with a magnetic sign that says "Parking Enforcement" and CPM uses Ford SUVs with LAZ or CPM markings and passenger plates.
Write your 5 then who cares
Don't worry we suspend all the cases that involve these goof and the boot guys too!
Just to busy...
The war is ON!! this garbage PEA wrote me a ticket for supposedly having a reused temporary permit parking pass when in fact I had just put a new TPP given to me by my parents who I was visiting,they placed the ticket above my st jude and cpd sticker!! Im waiting to pay them back!!
It's strange how these meter maids are as brave as a lion writing tickets in more affluent communities in the city,but put them in the Ghetto and they turn into cowardly mice.Just think about the last time you saw a ticket writer anywhere in between cermak rd to chicago ave west of california.
I remember there was a Wee-little sgt who lives in the west end of 008 who had to flex his big bad muscles to a dept of revenue agent because he was writing his neighbor a ticket.. The Wee-little man tried to order him to not write it because he was a big bad sgt and the revenue write pretty much said so what. So the wee little man hid behind his star and got the guy locked up for assault. I guess the wee-man didnt like loosing the argument and instead of handling it like a man he did what many of us do on this job unfortunately, revert to the power trip saying im the police and now you will go to jail. Listen, if your off duty then you are off duty. I worked with this little man when he had a car load of guns driving around doing nothing in his elite unit.. always flexing his muscle and big attitude for his little stature. If your neighbor is getting a ticket then your neighbor should follow the rules. Im a copper and I have gotten plenty of tickets.. you wanna know why??? because I broke the parking laws... its that simple, now where do I pay my fine for MY mistakes. Coppers egos and power trip cant handle the fact that civilians will ticket them and not give them a play. it happens, we are our own worst enemy and we screw with everyone else... well, now it is their turn and there is nothing we can do about it.. always treat people with respect, you never know who they are or how they can get you back down the line.
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Gee garv... Try not too make it too obvious who wrote this post. Got some muscles since u made sgt I guess.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ok what would you do? One way street, kids camp bus stops to pick up kids. Warning lights on and blocking traffic , one lane one way. Cop behind bus starts on siren/horn to move bus. Gets out of car and starts screaming in front of kids and moms at driver "move move move before i get angry. " Total a hole. Worth complaing to dist commander? Or Let it go?
7/19/2014 12:10:00 PM
Depends how long traffic was obstructed. Did the kids board the bus the minute it stopped, or were they still inside brushing their teeth and the bus had to wait? In that case, the bus can go around the block and NOT OBSTRUCT TRAFFIC.
Seriously who the hell is this loser meter maid reading and posting all these comments. Get off this blog. You are wrong on many points. And FYI, a police investigation, regardless if its writing a parking ticket or conducting a murder investigation TRUMPS your silly title whatever policy. Anyone interfering can get locked up for it. Go away and get out of Mommy's basement every once in a while.
I am that Guy on a Bike frequently seen in 016 and 020 and 018 and 011.
It's not personal, this is business.
7/19/2014 11:39:00 AM
You are a douchbag! (Bet that's not the first time you have heard that, right?). Go to a busy district tuff guy.
ssc that's ok because I work on the west side and I write parking tickets too, everybody must obey the parking laws even the westside ghetto
To all the PEA's reading & posting on this blog. Stop taking yourselves so seriously. You are revenue lackeys and nothing more. Wait until it is the City's turn to come correct for all the "hard work" you've done for The Machine over the years. See just how much you're valued. Remember, they could easily train animals from the zoo to do your mindless job.
As part of my activity I write parking tickets. It bugs me when the PEAs poach on my beat because they usually have an attitude. They should stick to meters. And speaking of meters, why is the city paying PEAs to write tickets for a private parking company anyway? More wasted tax dollars. We already lost parking revenue now we citizens pay to make the company money. Not sure why the city is paying three depts to write tickets. A waste of money.
I have had a few chances to issue a 9-60-020 to them and they pissed and moaned and cursed to high heaven. They found it very rude when I stiffled a hearty laugh and told them there was nothing I could do about it.
I am that Guy on a Bike frequently seen in 016 and 020 and 018 and 011.
It's not personal, this is business.
7/19/2014 11:39:00 AM
Bullshit. Its personal to me. No reason you can't give a professional courtesy if you see the sticker.
If you don't give one, don't expect to get one. Bet you are the first one to let the po that stops you for a moving violation that you work for the city.
It's been awhile since I wrote parking tickets. I thought there was a 5 minute Grace period for the new meter box tickets. That way you can't get one when you walk to the box to pay your ticket. I also seem to remember that delivery trucks were given time to make their delivery.
Maybe in court,but not on the street. When you are on a quota system, you just start writing more tickets and go to extreme means. They dont care if you get off in court,all they want to do is write the ticket.
I'm a Parking Enforcement Agent for the City Of Chicago and I cant believe the comments I'm reading. I have every single power that a Chicago Cop has except the power to arrest somebody. I've been spit on and punched in the arm while doing my duty and there wasn't a cop around to protect me. We're out there all by ourselves and if I see a cop car parked illegally, I will write it because that's the oath I took. Also, we help more people over all because we are walking around and you guys are in cars not stopping to help people. You have no idea how many people ask me for directions because of my visibility. So quit messing with us because we have the power of the pen and the pen is mightier than the gun.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Yes, it's true, these assholes act like they are the police
7/19/2014 08:46:00 AM
God forbid. Lord knows we have to many cops already that are assholes pretending to be "Da Real Police."
There are morons in every department.
One of the things SCC has always preached here is that "Not every cop is an Asshole. Not every cop is Crooked. But the crooks and assholes tarnish the image of the Whole Department."
Kraft Building was before my time...but I learned to write parkers at 1300 W Jackson. Finance didn't teach me shit.
I am that Guy on a Bike frequently seen in 016 and 020 and 018 and 011.
It's not personal, this is business.
7/19/2014 11:39:00 AM
Yep...douche!
PEAs shit-talking Policemen on our blog?
Hope you "ignant" m/fer's get rubbed on real hard out on these streets.
Heh... You do KNOW that The Police be busy running from call to call while y'all trying to holler for "help."
You people (and folks) better be on your bald and naked knees, humble and holy on these streets while you're shit-talking here.
NOBODY has any help coming out here. You "ignant" asses especially.
The way you clowns play will be your upward fucking...
You must prove to them you are on a Call. And simply being "da police" isn't proof enough.
Hey doofus I don't have to be on a call to be conducting an investigation..and I certainly don't have to tell you shit about my investigation.
Who do we civilians notify to make a complaint/seek discipline/termination of these oxygen thieves when they get mouthy?
Don't they have rules governing professional demeanor when dealing with the public just like
Policemen do?
Or are they exempt because they're mouth-breathing democratic voters?
Kudos to the guy setting his dog on the hump that came on his property trying to quiz him about his city sticker.
Should've called the dog sooner...
Fuck these goons.
Anonymous said...
"Not sure why the city is paying three depts to write tickets..."
7/19/2014 08:03:00 PM
Coppers sat down really hard on their ticket books in retaliation against Shortshanks shitting on them for consecutive contracts.
Daley violated a cardinal rule fucking with people who kept the city flush with cash.
Funny... Nobody is willing to do a FOIA for revenue generated by CPD from say 1990-2000 to compare against 2001-2011?
Shorty also stripped control of CPD's budget from the superintendent(Hillard?) which is something else no one wants to talk about.
Do a contact card on them. Some do carry weapons and overheard a revenue booter in his van brag to the fuel attendant at the North Av he carries a gat. This was about 5 years ago.
At the time I was now aware that the revenue people were total J.O.' to the police.
Just last week on Taylor street I seen a driver open his car door and the revenue bike guy nearly took the door off.
I wonder what CPD did regarding this accident. LOL.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ok what would you do? One way street, kids camp bus stops to pick up kids. Warning lights on and blocking traffic , one lane one way. Cop behind bus starts on siren/horn to move bus. Gets out of car and starts screaming in front of kids and moms at driver "move move move before i get angry. " Total a hole. Worth complaing to dist commander? Or Let it go?
Farva got suspended for this in Super Troopers...
Used to happen 018. PEA would start to write copper personal car, P.O. would get pissed off and write for bs; PEA supervisor come and bitch at Officer; P.O. threaten to lock up both PEA's; Cluster.
PEA's Are Sworn to enforce Municipal Code violations of Title 9. There is nothing in title 9 that states I must abandon my duties just because a cop tells me to do so. And that is also confirmed by Alderman Burnettd Chief if Staff for the Traffic and Pedestrian Safety Committee.
You please try that. Please remember what happened to the cop in 001/018 that tried a similar stunt with a TMA that wrote his car. TMA got promoted and Paid. Cop got serious time off.
I don't give a fuck what your title 9 says or what some lackey 'chief of staff' to some asshole aldercriminal tells you..... I tell you to get off my job/scene and you don't? YOURE GOING TO JAIL, simple as that. The IG will be notified and I a WILL do everything in my power to stick it in your ass and break it off. Simply put, You WILL obey a lawful order or you will face the consequences of not doing so. And trust me when I tell you I've been doing my job longer that you've been a simpleton revenue monkey for the Machine and that you will NOT win the battle and certainly not the war. Go memorize some more parking enforcement codes that mean ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING when I hit that ass with state criminal charges. Wait til I commandeer your silly little PEA vehicle for the police matter I'm handling - that'll REALLY make your little brain melt.
I am that Guy on a Bike frequently seen in 016 and 020 and 018 and 011.
It's not personal, this is business.
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You're an asshole. We are out here risking our lives and that doesn't mean shit to you people. Rules are rules right company man? That's ok, we have enough self righteous no discretion assholes on this side too. Fuck all of you
why is the city paying PEAs to write tickets for a private parking company anyway?
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Because City Council approved the contract that says they have to.
I got a ticket about 6 months ago from pea, caught up with the agent and spoke to her nicely. She voided it! So they are not all goofs.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm a Parking Enforcement Agent for the City Of Chicago and I cant believe the comments I'm reading. I have every single power that a Chicago Cop has except the power to arrest somebody. I've been spit on and punched in the arm while doing my duty and there wasn't a cop around to protect me. We're out there all by ourselves and if I see a cop car parked illegally, I will write it because that's the oath I took. Also, we help more people over all because we are walking around and you guys are in cars not stopping to help people. You have no idea how many people ask me for directions because of my visibility. So quit messing with us because we have the power of the pen and the pen is mightier than the gun.
7/19/2014 09:50:00 PM
^^^^^^ for real???
public enforcement aide=traffic management authority=omec
what a colossal pool of worthless idiots that could never keep a "real" job in the "real" working world.
chicago is also a sanctuary for this unemployable trash.
I'm a Parking Enforcement Agent for the City Of Chicago and I cant believe the comments I'm reading. I have every single power that a Chicago Cop has except the power to arrest somebody. I've been spit on and punched in the arm while doing my duty and there wasn't a cop around to protect me. We're out there all by ourselves and if I see a cop car parked illegally, I will write it because that's the oath I took. Also, we help more people over all because we are walking around and you guys are in cars not stopping to help people. You have no idea how many people ask me for directions because of my visibility. So quit messing with us because we have the power of the pen and the pen is mightier than the gun.
Okay, relax you idiot. To say you're pretty much a police officer is a HUGE stretch. You're parking enforcement. That means you couldn't make it into our academy, which means you're a HUGE idiot. You have a ticket book and you walk around thinking you're the shit. Don't compare yourself to us. Giving someone directions how to get to the rock and roll McDonald's is nothing close to running inside that McDonald's for shots fired. I think mall cops have more power and more respect than you clowns.
ald. burnett- a great example of another completely worthless excon individual
Anonymous said...
I'm a Parking Enforcement Agent for the City Of Chicago and I cant believe the comments I'm reading. I have every single power that a Chicago Cop has except the power to arrest somebody. I've been spit on and punched in the arm while doing my duty and there wasn't a cop around to protect me. We're out there all by ourselves and if I see a cop car parked illegally, I will write it because that's the oath I took. Also, we help more people over all because we are walking around and you guys are in cars not stopping to help people. You have no idea how many people ask me for directions because of my visibility. So quit messing with us because we have the power of the pen and the pen is mightier than the gun.
7/19/2014 09:50:00 PM
You're the quintessential example of douchbag that I ENJOY hearing got his ass tore off by an irate citizen over a parking ticket dispute.
And as far as "we have the power of the pen and the pen is mightier than the gun"? I also have the "power of the pen". And you'd best believe my pen will go A LOT further than yours once I get to scribbling.
But I'd much prefer arriving on scene to use my pen to cut you a report for getting your teeth knocked down your throat. And I GUARANTEE you'll be begging me to be your new best friend and catch the bad guy who just beat your ass.
You took an oath, huh? You help more people overall, huh? Quit messing with you, huh? Ball's in YOUR court, Mr. I Have Every Power A Cop Does. May I suggest you pick it up and take it home? Because you're ass-out in the grand scheme of things, Mr. PEA.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm a Parking Enforcement Agent for the City Of Chicago and I cant believe the comments I'm reading. I have every single power that a Chicago Cop has except the power to arrest somebody. I've been spit on and punched in the arm while doing my duty and there wasn't a cop around to protect me. We're out there all by ourselves and if I see a cop car parked illegally, I will write it because that's the oath I took. Also, we help more people over all because we are walking around and you guys are in cars not stopping to help people. You have no idea how many people ask me for directions because of my visibility. So quit messing with us because we have the power of the pen and the pen is mightier than the gun.
7/19/2014 09:50:00 PM
Oh, it's the rile-up-the-police troll again.
I am that Guy on a Bike frequently seen in 016 and 020 and 018 and 011.
It's not personal, this is business.
7/19/2014 11:39:00 AM
Bullshit. Its personal to me. No reason you can't give a professional courtesy if you see the sticker.
If you don't give one, don't expect to get one. Bet you are the first one to let the po that stops you for a moving violation that you work for the city.
7/19/2014 09:16:00 PM
I'm not the original poster on this one but is 9:16:00 on crack? All those people do is hunt for tickets to write. What do you mean "give a courtesy just because of a FoP sticker,". Like you'd give them a break.
Typical of this city! Divide and conquer!
That is why I don't spend no money in the city and head for the free parking in the suburbs!
Chicago, can you say good bye to your tax revenues!
I will pray for all you ignorant Meter maids and police officers feuding on this website. Gang members, drug dealers or criminals do not care about either of you on these streets. They would assault or kill you regardless over a ticket or a traffic stop. This article about the feud was just written to create media attention and both departments have been feeding into it. This was just an isolated incident between a copper and a meter maid. I would really hope police officers would not risk their jobs not responding to a call. Yes meter maids do use courtesy for officers, but non suiting tickets are not easy to do on computers. Regardless, every police officer and meter maid be safe on these streets.
PEA's Are Sworn to enforce Municipal Code violations of Title 9. There is nothing in title 9 that states I must abandon my duties just because a cop tells me to do so. And that is also confirmed by Alderman Burnettd Chief if Staff for the Traffic and Pedestrian Safety Committee
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Sheriff Buford T Justice said...
You're right in one aspect. If a policeman tells you to get lost from his/her assignment, its not in Title 9......its in Title 8 of the criminal code 8-4-010 (Lawful Order of Dispersal). If we tell you to move, you're not abandoning your duties, youre following the law. You can perform your duties in another location.
The parking company gets the parking meter fees. The city gets the parking ticket revenue. The more tickets the city writes, the more dollars both organizations collect.
Remember PEA's, don't dial 911 when you need the police!
For all the kind PEAs that don't write pimpy tickets and use common sense and discretion in their job, sorry. You can thank idiots like Mr Bike who have just dragged you into their shit-hole world. No breaks. For any of you.
You're an asshole. We are out here risking our lives and that doesn't mean shit to you people. Rules are rules right company man? That's ok, we have enough self righteous no discretion assholes on this side too. Fuck all of you
Risking your lives is one thing.
Fighting over Parker's is something else.
Let the fucking mouth breathers do their jobs and let the Police worry about the really serious shit
To comment on all this stuff being written. all of this is nonsense we have a job just like everyone that works for the city the only thing is that POs have more authority then PEAS do.i have family and friends all over the city in different districts and I here all type of BS when it comes from different city site's and it's all the same BS. The only thing I can say it's pretty pity when u have both sides that write citations feuding on this blog over nothing of importance let peas write what they get paid for and let police due there work the 1 thing everyone looks forward to is the 1st and the 16th of each month. God bless
And for the pea that's on here as mr. Bike speak for urself cuz when we write a PO private vehicle and they ask for a supervisor I will contact them before I decide to continue to write that citation or already written it to take it back. When approached with respect u give it right back doesn't matter what city department they r from. Let that me know to everyone bickering on this blog.
Sincerely wolfman
@ 7/20/2014 12:48:00 AM
Okay Pookie...
Riddle me this then..
When was the last time you actually saw a on duty PEA wander into an ACTIVE Scene and start looking over cars for tickets to write?
I've never seen that shit...and you know what...thats because they actually Avoid active scenes. I've seen them riding towards a squad...and turn at the next corner so they wouldn't have to go by. I've watched the ones on Bikes just pedal by and ignore all the Obviously Involved vehicles. I've even seen a few of the smarter ones stop off at a squad and inquire "yo boss, any unmarked I should be aware of so I can avoid them?"
They are not Looking to Ticket Cops because they are Cops. Or maybe A should say that Most of them are actually not targeting because of a Police type sticker.
They are looking to ticket vehicles because there is something wrong with them.
Except around Vernon Park Place and Clinton where the district cops actually have been known to Point out which vehicles are not owned by Cops .
They are looking to ticket vehicles because there is something wrong with them.
If I see a police officer needing help, I will gladly take this $4000 computer and bust it over the offenders head anytime. The city treats all departments like crap even cpd, fire dept, peas....id like to have cpd as an ally not an enemy. ...if you want to write me up for some else being a jerk, that's on your conscience.
Big shout out to the good districts with good po's
14th, 8th, 1st, and 10th
I'm a Parking Enforcement Agent for the City Of Chicago and....
7/19/2014 09:50:00 PM
Oh, it's the rile-up-the-police troll again
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I agree-I can't believe how so many have fallen for that BS post...
They wet their shorts when they see an FOP sticker just like you wet your shorts when you get that opportunity to arrest one or tell them off!
This is ridiculous!!!!! Stop all the finger pointing and start getting along, DAMN!!! I am a CPD officer with 24+ years (26-MAR-1990).
So the million dollar question? Are PEA's the police. If so please explain. If not please explain. I just want to know because alot of them are asshole. So I make sure I feed the meter,park where I need to be and make sure my vehicle plates and sticker are up to date. Please fill me in can They arrest? detain?And what if they get disrespectfull who do I contact. PLEASE HELP WITH THIS ISSUE !
Anonymous said...
Maybe the A&E network can produce a special Chicago edition of "Parking Wars?" That'd be fun to watch.
7/19/2014 12:25:00 AM
The producers of that series actually tried to a few years after they started the first one but before they did the one in Detroit. City Halls resounding "No" stopped it before they could get anywhere.
In a way, think about it. And from both sides.
The "class acts" that you see on the show. No way!
Also think about it. They'd probably have wanted to follow around all the "top ticket writers" and it would only be a matter of time before someone with Clout or a sense of self importance due to whatever city or county job that they had was caught on tape doing the god old fashioned "do you know who I am" comment.
Or catches on tape someone mentioning some of the shit from this Blog about the Cash machine mouth breathers. I have no idea what code of conduct rules that Philly or Detroit have regarding municipal ployees, but I highly doubt that any PEA in this city would want to be on camera anymore than they potentially already are just from normal day to day contact with citizens
To the bitch that is/was working on Taylor street today July 23rd approx 2pm. you are exactly what this post is all about. how dare you mouth off to me when i politely told you as i was walking out of restaurant from having lunch with my wife who came to have lunch with me, tell me about how her parking receipt was expired, yet you were no where near her car which was in front of my squad car! 1st , you didn't even know how much time was on the parking ticket because you never came near the car except for when we were walking out plus you sit there and pretend that you were writing the ticket on the car. So let this be fair warning, if I get a ticket in the mail because of you stupidity , I will track you down and this so called war with us the police and you parking meter maid or whatever you call yourselves will see your day in court,and your supervisors , who the fuck do you think you are ? you come across with no respect and you spoke to us as if you don't give a fuck ( which we know you all don't ) but the Finance Department employees wonder why you're treated the way you are from the police dept.?
So SCC you asked in the post if Anyone know if we're still actively feuding with the PEA's? We haven't noticed and we'd like to know if we have to tell everyone to pick it up a bit. YES! these people are walking around with this attitude , and let me say this before anyone tries to defend them. the parking reciept was still within the time frame yet this little female spanish ( you know who you are with your rimmed glasses)gives the police attitude. as soon as I opened my mouth when I said excuse me thats my wife's veh and I believe we still have time left on it. to which her reply was something like 'I just made that off duty pay for his veh ' like as thougjh 1-we didn't pay and 2- like she so badly wanted the feeling of power because someone else- regardless they dont like the police but enough is enough!
Anonymous said...
So the million dollar question? Are PEA's the police. If so please explain. If not please explain. I just want to know because alot of them are asshole. So I make sure I feed the meter,park where I need to be and make sure my vehicle plates and sticker are up to date. Please fill me in can They arrest? detain?And what if they get disrespectfull who do I contact. PLEASE HELP WITH THIS ISSUE !
7/22/2014 07:57:00 PM
I think most honest cops here will back this up...
ALL Citizens regardless of their job have certain 'Citizens Arrest Powers."
For Felonies or Breeches of the Peace...not Misdemeanors.
Rules for Use of Force apply under slightly stricter guidelines than an honest to god cop.
Thus in theory..Yes, you could actually be arrested by a Meter Maid.
PEA's are just a step above Security Guards in terms of Municipal Enforcement, but (depending on the security guards assignment)obviously are no where near what a Police Officer is in terms of Law Enforcement Powers at the Municipal and State Charge Levels.
And I can't believe you had to actually ask that question.
As for Title 8....I just discovered something about Title 8 today... 8-4-010E is the one you are probably referring to Mr/Mrs 7/20/2014 04:15:00 PM.
Under 8-4-010E reasonable documentation of the situation that threatens the public health, safety, or welfare would be required.Otherwise with a profession tone of voice you are going to get told No and you can't arrest them.
"...Kraft Building was before my time..."
Still a rookie.
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