Decriminalize EVERYTHING!
We quoted McCarthy a few days ago when he complained that criminals who shouldn't even be on the street, are out committing crimes with astounding regularity. We pointed out that if there are no penalties, criminals will almost invariably re-offend.
Guess what Rahm wants?
Guess what Rahm wants?
- Mayor Rahm Emanuel today called on the General Assembly to decriminalize marijuana possession statewide and to reduce the penalty to a misdemeanor for those caught with 1 gram or less of any controlled substance.
During 90 minutes of testimony before the House-Senate Joint Criminal Reform Committee in Chicago, Emanuel encouraged lawmakers to challenge the “assumptions that are embedded in the criminal justice system.” The mayor argued that reducing the penalties for minor drug possession would allow the city and state to focus their efforts on more violent crime.
“It’s time, in my view, to free up our criminal justice system to address our real public safety challenges and build on the progress that has been made,” Emanuel said.
Way to pander Rahm! Maybe next we could lower the threshold for Burglary - you can have one Weber BBQ Kettle and one car radio before felony charges kick in. Drop the dollar total for Theft, too. Everything becomes Theft of Lost/Mislaid Property, even if that property was "mislaid" in your locked garage.
Labels: dumb ideas
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
102 Comments:
Terrible idea!!! Does he realize how many more juveniles will be recruited by gangs to carry the drugs for sale.
the trend for society nationwide continues... when you give up struggling to change people's behavior, make sure to describe the wrong thing as something other than wrong. TADA! Problem solved.
The cop is a bad guy. The criminal is the good guy.
We are in a bizarre changing world.
I think I am voting yes because we really are on the last leg of law enforcement careers having the scope and authority that they currently require.
soon, new hires will be downgraded to monitors, report writers, and targeted administrative response, such as domestic handlers, traffic crash handlers, disturbance handlers, mental transports, or general reports for misdemeanor offenses.
To all the media trolls out it this way, a 'honor student' who may never get a scholarship according to Rahm, could have up to 19 'nickel' rocks each weighing .05 gram and selling for 5 to 10 bucks weighing a total of .95 grams. Now dont you think these bags are for sale? So media trolls dont you think this is crazy that someone could have 19 bags of crack on them and get charged with a misdemeanor? Sorry coppers for wasting your time on this post this was for the media who reads this. Look into this ask questions do your job! I know some of you are starting to question the emporer
then pack-workers will just carry their whole Jab with no worries. Get rid of the first 13 bags and go back and get another gram. Everyone will then know they are carrying around $130-$150 dollars in drugs or money, rob them, someone winds up shot, and it does nothing for violent crime LOL.
I am not against decriminalization and taxing it though.
I think all drugs should be legal. That would remove the financial incentive and eliminate many of the problems we have. Including coppers getting hurt arresting drug dealers.
The government hasnt any right to tell a person can do to himself.
Who cares any more? I don't.
A stoned populace is a compliant populace.
Keep Watching Colorado. Free and legal MJ is not a good thing.
Let's hope the common sense possessed by the other part of Illinois (the part that is NOT Chicago) prevails.
Rahms doing everything he can right now to get attention for the vote. Any distraction he can muster will improve his chances at the ballot box.
Why not? Robbery is a Battery/Theft, Auto Thefts are Criminal Trespass To Vehicle, Burglary as Criminal Trespass, or Theft from Building,Attempt Burglary Could be Criminal Damage to Property, Oh Wait, it already is.
Take the mayors request any way you choose. My opinion is that he is looking to kill the O.T. made on small amounts of narcotics arrests. This is his end around to screw us after offering us a crappy contract. By the way Mr. Mayor, cocaine, heroin, and other illicit drugs are treated as felonies for good reason. Also, most offenders caught with small amounts got the drugs by selling stolen goods, burglary proceeds, street robberies, etc. But how would Rham know that since he did not grow up in our city?
And how does that actually free up the legal system? Are the backlogs of court dates going to magically free up?
Sure, the legal system will run like a well oiled machine if we can JUST legalize small amounts of pot damn it. Wow! It's really the answer to all of our problems! Just like opening casinos have solved all of Chicago and IL financial problems.
And how does that actually free up the legal system? Are the backlogs of court dates going to magically free up?
Sure, the legal system will run like a well oiled machine if we can JUST legalize small amounts of pot damn it. Wow! It's really the answer to all of our problems! Just like opening casinos have solved all of Chicago and IL financial problems.
It's a lot easier to rule a country with drunken and doped up idiots who believe they're entitled to everything. Just what the commie regime wants.
Rahm wants to challenge the "assumptions that are embedded in the criminal justice system"
I've got an assumption about Rahm and the current Chicago political system - that Rahm is an asshole and could care less about Chicago. That we are just a means to an end in his political trajectory.
And the only embedding that I can think of embedding are people like McCarthy and others that work under Rahm are so embedded up Rahms ass for the same selfish reason - personal gain - how they are "in this" to benefit somehow.
The system is so screwed up because of people like this. What happened to honest people holding office? Why is that so rare anymore?
Sorry, SCC, but you're losing the difference between victimless offenses and actual crimes against people.
It used to be against the law to manufacture or possess alcohol, except for medicinal purposes. We changed that because the law was causing more harm than it prevented; instead we now have regulations for possession and consumption related to age, not driving a motor vehicle, etc. Maybe pot is in that category. We probably won't know all the details unless it's decriminalized, but the word I hear from Europe is that it's a whole lot less bad than our way.
And when it's legalized, it'll be sold by tobacco shops instead of street dealers. The street dealers won't get the business, and a whole lot fewer people will go looking for them. Isn't that a GOOD thing?
- Not a peace officer
Its not just marijuana, The phrase " small amounts of Durgs" kept being used through out the hearing. A lawyer from the ACLU included a beef for people busted for small amounts of Heroin during the hearing.
http://new.livestream.com/blueroomstream/events/3228678/archives
Hopefully, rahm's target demographic will be too baked to vote for him.
Heir Rahm was talking about legalizing 1 gram of weed so people (and folks) don't go to prison.
When was the last time ANYONE has gone to the joint for ONE GRAM?
So what the 9.5 digit midget is saying is that he wants to throw the ILCS out of McNumbnuts broken window. Why stop there, lets lower the drinking age to 12, raise the speed limit to 100 and allow incarcerated felons out early. What could possibly happen? Oh wait, that felon thing is already being done.
To the unpublished dumbass - did you read the article? It's not "just weed" any more.
It's also up to a gram of Controlled Substances, so up to 10 rocks or 10 blows - misdemeanor.
If you reward bad behavior, you get more of it. It's kind of simple actually.
And leave our horse alone.
To 02:07:00 AM
It's not just pot - go read the linked article. You can't sit there and state that heroin and cocaine are harmless. We give two shits about pot.
Try again.
Just when you think Democrats can't become an even more of a pathetic joke, they manage top themselves
The policies they advocate are something out of an Onion article
Behold...
New Berkeley Law Will Require Free Weed for Low-Income, Homeless
Berkeley, Calif., will now require medical-marijuana dispensaries to give away free cannabis to very low-income patients, CBS reports.
The city council unanimously approved an ordinance Tuesday that mandates the dispensaries hand over 2 percent of their total inventory to low-income folks and homeless people.
They won’t get away with giving out their leftovers, either, as the ordinance requires that the pot must be good quality.
The ordinance reads: ”Medical cannabis provided under this section shall be the same quality on average” as marijuana “dispensed to other members.”
See what they've done here? The "argument" isn't over the insanity of providing free weed to the homeless...but that the QUALITY of said weed be up to standards.
The Democrat Party - a running joke since 1829
Let's decriminalize murder so crime will always be down.
Isn't that a GOOD thing?
- Not a peace officer
9/24/2014 02:07:00 AM
After a couple of decades of seeing what hard drugs do to people, I would guess no. It's not going to be a good thing.
Intoxicants vary. The hard stuff, and weed, get you there at lightning speed. That's not a good thing. Alcohol in it's many forms may get you buzzed, but that's not the do all and end all to it. It is with all the other stuff.
I can see that's where we are going, so I guess we will find out. I am not looking forward to the damage it will do to friends and neighbors kids when everyone tries it. How about you? Look at the young kids you know for the next few days then come back and tell me you think it's a good idea.
Might as well. All pcs arrests under a gram get thrown out in PC hearing anyway. Bring on the body cams, too! We will all be traffic cops with impeccable verbal judo.
The trend and the thinking behind this is going nationwide. Drug use is a health problem and should not be a criminal problem. Locking a user up will not help the user. Form drug courts and use the money to get people into treatment. Right now the police get all proceeds from property confiscated in drug raids. Stop this and use money for drug treatment programs.
And when it's legalized, it'll be sold by tobacco shops instead of street dealers. The street dealers won't get the business, and a whole lot fewer people will go looking for them. Isn't that a GOOD thing?
- Not a peace officer
9/24/2014 02:07:00 AM
Well, your thinking sure sounds logical. But, it has not worked out that way in places where pot is either legal or winked at. Street prices are lower then the legal shops which are regulated, and minors still go to the street dealers. In fact, it has increased pot use for most age groups. Minors are thinking that if the adults were lying about pot use then they must be lying about the other drugs.
TO:
"And when it's legalized, it'll be sold by tobacco shops instead of street dealers. The street dealers won't get the business, and a whole lot fewer people will go looking for them. Isn't that a GOOD thing? - Not a peace officer"
First - the politicians are also talking about decriminalizing crack cocaine - reducing to a misdemeanor.
Second - do you actually think the dope dealer is going to say "ok, let the west side grocery store owner sell the weed"?
Third - do you know who owns the "tobacco shops" on the south and west sides?
Please don't attempt to make comments on subject matter you have absolutely no idea about. Your comment makes no sense to anyone who has worked the street.
Endless spiral. Dope em up, they cant pass the drug test so all the good jobs are not obtainable, and keep em in poverty. Because they are in poverty you have to give them a check, and with that check they have medical reasons to be doped up, so the government pays for the medicine and now they cant pass the drug test.
I agree with Not A Cop. It's something this country should have been moving toward a long time ago.
--I am a cop
do you think Rahm may be trying to curry favor with any particular demographic?
Cyprus Hill
I want to get high
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i0ico80iW0U
The destruction of America slowly continues, thanks democrats and the liberals that keep them in power . This country is done...
And all convictions under the specified weight will be overturned. Bad idea.....
Question -
OK so we legalize ALL drugs & "theoretically" put the dealers (gangs) out of business, do they then just disappear???? Get real jobs???? Go back to school???? Raise their children???? Magically become law abiding citizens????
I think not.....
Rahm is right. He knows all about laws because he breaks many.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Pot, coke, and heroin all used to be legal. One could buy them as easily as asprin. Why is it illegal to consume something? Because I may do something illegal if I consume it? We tryed that with alcohol and it didn't work out and we learned our lesson. Now we refuse to see the history. We just stick our fingers in our ears and scream 'We can make it work this time! We just need more money and power!' No we can't. No we don't.
I guess McCarthy's advocacy of the "broken windows" policing policy is officially dead now, eh?
The War on Drugs is a farce. People have been trying to get a buzz since the caveman started eating roots. The politicians loved the war on drugs as they get more patronage- judges- prosecutors , etc. But, the politicians love to spend money too , and the taxes on weed are so lucrative and tempting.
Rahm is pandering to a certain demographic..... must b election time.
He's a slimy, disgusting political animal.
McCarthy stand up and be a man or better yet a police officer R u 2 guys crazie we have zombies walking around because of these drugs and u want to make it easier for them to get Please vote this mayor out of office and send this nitwit back to the big apple
Unless you see what we see, and do what we do this sounds good on paper. Already we spend 80% of our time climbing piss and blunt covered stairs that reek of skunk. Having the ability to remove characters from this stage, to keep the peace is one of our last tools in our toolbox. This is a very, very bad idea. Officer discretion is already being practiced in 99% of the calls, it's that 1% we still need to address.
Lots of ASSumptions at that meeting I think.. Only dopes use dope
he doesn't want to disqualify the cps students with a felony narcotic record
So dude on the corner slinging rocks or blows has to keep his "jabs" to quantities of 8-10 and if he gets grabbed it's "personal use"????
I give up
If they're too stoned to vote against me, I'm a shoe in to win the election! Rahmses
Keep em doped up and quiet... its for the children!
Just legalize it all, the drug war is unwinable andc100 years is enough. All it does is provide money for the gangs and instigate death and mayhem on the streets. Did we learn nothing from prohibition?
Just A Citizen Says: If anyone thinks that pot is NOT a gateway drug, then you are as clueless as it gets. What a world we live in these days...
Oh goody, decriminalize ALL drugs, What a great plan you have there Tiny Dancer.
After all what's so bad about doing a little Meth when your tired or having a ball-busting busy day at work. And what's wrong with *sharing* some of those Date Rape Drugs among friends -- especially in that dreaded first date when you don't know what to say to that person you just met. And hell, who hasn't had the urge to shoot up a bit of Heroin when your bored and there's nothing on TV, it's not like you'll make a habit out of it (duh!)
So yeeeeeah, let's decriminalize all drugs. Sure, great idea Rahm....
....you stupid fucking asshole!!
It's not just pot - go read the linked article
I'm not addressing the linked article. I'm addressing your comment on it, about possession of other people's Weber grills and such.
Would you give a shit if Rahm decriminalized the growing of up to say 10 pot plants, and possession of recreational / medicinal quantities? You'd have lots of stoned people, and the dealers would have no market any more. As long as they didn't go into kidnapping to make up the lost money, would this be a good thing for Chicago and the FOP?
- Not a peace officer
one crack rock sure as hell should not be a felony
Hey guess what? You know who pushed for the 'racist' federal crack cocaine laws to be stricter than the powder laws? The COngressional Black Caucus that's who.
Sorry, SCC, but you're losing the difference between victimless offenses and actual crimes against people.
It used to be against the law to manufacture or possess alcohol, except for medicinal purposes. We changed that because the law was causing more harm than it prevented; instead we now have regulations for possession and consumption related to age, not driving a motor vehicle, etc. Maybe pot is in that category. We probably won't know all the details unless it's decriminalized, but the word I hear from Europe is that it's a whole lot less bad than our way.
And when it's legalized, it'll be sold by tobacco shops instead of street dealers. The street dealers won't get the business, and a whole lot fewer people will go looking for them. Isn't that a GOOD thing?
You have no idea what your talking about!
Cigarettes are sold in stores and are legal, that doesn't stop these animals from shooting and killing each other over the illegal cigarette sales outside the stores.
It's all about killing crime stats and killing off the need to staff the department. I told the FLOP this 6 years ago in A/2, you dont say anything about downgrading reporting and soon you will find fewer PO's on the active duty roster. But no its keep your head down and let the mayor and stupidtendent lie to the press about less crime. Issue a citation for possession, no case reprt no crime, another hidden incident.
These two are complete MUSHES!!! They don't know what to do next... makes me wonder if they call each other with these ideas like excited little kids with a new toy!!?? Hey Rham, I have a great idea!!! Lets decriminalize drugs...that would be sure to get you votes don't you think?? So what if we have been prosecuting ILCS 570/402 for years.. whats wrong with having a little blow or smoking a rock once in a while?? It's just like weed right?? What a couple of complete MORONS!!!
Try finding a judge in pre-lim these days that finds PC on less than a gram of crack or heroin anyway.
no need to decriminalize judges are tossing the cases at pre-lim
All this at the same time as the federal government just further tightened the screws on law-abiding tax-paying citizens to get their legal prescriptions filled.
http://www.hngn.com/articles/40180/20140825/fda-tightens-hydrocodone-regulations-to-curb-drug-abuse.htm
What you expect!
Rahm is a criminal who sympathize with criminal elements!
Rahm panders for the bust out vote?
Destroying the very meaning of Police and Policing in this town as well?
>Weighing The Implications<
Another bright idea from the feverish mind of
Rahm Emanuel.
Chicago's mayor is a crazy-man who will set a
house on fire just to machinegun the occupants
fleeing out the one door he intentionally didn't
barracade.
"Emanuel encouraged lawmakers to challenge the 'assumptions that are embedded in the criminal justice system.'"
Does he mean all that stuff about right and wrong?
Anonymous said...
Keep Watching Colorado. Free and legal MJ is not a good thing.
9/24/2014 12:53:00 AM
Are you retarded? Legalization has been going great for CO. Massive influx of cash from taxes, more money/time to fight real crime, and most of the myths surrounding pot have been proving themselves wrong.
I welcome you to point out one factual piece of information to back up your claim.
1 gram of heroine is a lot worse than 1 gram of marijuana
I've got 29 years on and court used to be the best part-time job that you could find. We used to have both a female and male misdemeanor court key, a prostitution court key and night bond court at 26th street and they took all of that away. Now they want to turn felony dope into a misdemeanor?. Looks like I'm gonna need a bigger raise and a better contract.
"""Keep Watching Colorado. Free and legal MJ is not a good thing. """
Ever even been there?
Chicago is like its own 3rd world country. Man this place is a fucking shithole.
Looks like rahm read comstat book and wants to kill crime the same way. Downgrade everything.
My son got an underage drinking arrest that's a class A misdemeanor. How are these drugs not being punished as hard.
I welcome you to point out one factual piece of information to back up your claim.
9/24/2014 03:10:00 PM
A 30% increase in homeless as reported by Denver newspapers. People coming there from around the country for the pot.That should bit into their tax collections.
People will do drugs legal or not.... If you legalize all drugs guess what the same people will do drugs. People are not going to do more drugs if it is legal!!! Any kid can get drugs on the streets easier than alcohol now! We have laws for people who break them we don't have to lock people up for getting high lock them up when they do something to hurt someone or rob...you get it .
"...myths surrounding pot have been proving themselves wrong...I welcome you to point out one factual piece of information to back up your claim."
The West Side of Chicago.
Watch season 3 of the wire. The police set up areas for the dope dealers and sectioned it off to each gang and let it roll to reduce the murders.Rahm and McNYC must be watching reruns.
They cracked down on cigarettes and now ease up on weed!!!
NUTS!!!!
Red light , speed cameras for the children
Body guards speed , run red lights
Does that mean I will be able to get some good weed like from the '60's? Panama Red, Acupulco Gold, Michoacan, Hawaiian Maui Zowie, perhaps some blonde Lebanese hashish, dark Moroccan hash. Can't wait, retired now, no drug test anymore. Just plain old Mexican green nickel bags, brown paper envelopes that hold one shot glass of weed. I'm getting all my Jimi Hendrix on the iPod! The Beatles White Album, hot damn.
And what is waifting on the wind behind this?
Hmmmm... Po-leece "Imminent Danger" senses are tingling...
If Rahm wins another term, watch for him to invoke the nth degree of "Home Rule" and try to separate CPD from state standards, certification and testing.
The imagination boggles...
Can you even imagine Policing as promulgated by Sir Robert Peel being destroyed and replaced with profit focused, bean counter driven "public safety?"
EEE-FUCKING-GADS!
WHOOO!
Dude is STILL gonna be clownin' regardless.
Rahm ain't got time for them... But he WILL
rig Chicago with so many snares, tripwires and
monetary booby-traps to extract every spare nickel
from what's left of the formerly formidable middle class
of Chicago.
Imagine... A ferverish, emotionally crippled, undersized maniac with his own armed revenue extractors?
Historical precedent and parallels notwithstanding and shit...
Living in strange and Interesting times. No?
Legalize everything. The three primary drugs of choice for law enforcement (alcohol, nicotine, and caffeine) are legal. Practice what you preach and ban those too. The government has no place telling an adult of sound mind what they can put into their body. Republicans/conservatives preach about increased freedom and limited government, yet they're the biggest proponents of the war on drugs. What hypocrisy.
People will do drugs legal or not.... If you legalize all drugs guess what the same people will do drugs. People are not going to do more drugs if it is legal!!! Any kid can get drugs on the streets easier than alcohol now! We have laws for people who break them we don't have to lock people up for getting high lock them up when they do something to hurt someone or rob...you get it .
9/24/2014 09:47:00 PM
Your point is that if we legalize it, no one new will try it?!!!!You can't really believe that.
So you are saying that if I told my kids to help themselves to my liquor cabinet and the beer in the frig, that it was OK with me, they wouldn't jump in? That is what you/they are advocating. That is so irresponsible that I cannot believe it comes from our eleceted official.
Anonymous said...
And all convictions under the specified weight will be overturned. Bad idea.....
9/24/2014 07:24:00 AM
Really? A small PCS conviction should be looked at like a felony such as robbery and sexual assault?
Anonymous said...
"...myths surrounding pot have been proving themselves wrong...I welcome you to point out one factual piece of information to back up your claim."
The West Side of Chicago.
9/24/2014 09:53:00 PM
They don't smoke pot on the Northside and suburbs?
Anonymous said...
Sorry, SCC, but you're losing the difference between victimless offenses and actual crimes against people.
Hey moron. I don't want to be driving anywhere near anyone who is stoned. Pot these days is laced with everything. I don't care if it comes from a dispensary or not.
People will do drugs legal or not.... If you legalize all drugs guess what the same people will do drugs. People are not going to do more drugs if it is legal!!! Any kid can get drugs on the streets easier than alcohol now! We have laws for people who break them we don't have to lock people up for getting high lock them up when they do something to hurt someone or rob...you get it .
9/24/2014 09:47:00 PM
Such faulty reasoning on your part. Many people do not use substances or even take action on things simply because those substances or actions are deemed illegal and they do not want the shame of doing so. When you make things legal, it increases the use. This was proven during prohibition when alcoholism rates tumbled. In countries where drugs are legal or the use winked at, use has increased. Such seems to be the case in the states of Colorado and Washington. I am of the belief, and it appears so is the Mayor, not to legalize, but to decriminalize personal possession of small amounts of all controlled substances. The theory that if we legalize all drugs and tax them most of this crime, violent and property will simply disappear is naïve at best. A better way is to take away the money generated by police confiscation of drug proceeds and use it to start drug courts and treatment centers, not to buy more police equipment.
Anonymous said...
Just legalize it all, the drug war is unwinable andc100 years is enough. All it does is provide money for the gangs and instigate death and mayhem on the streets. Did we learn nothing from prohibition?
9/24/2014 10:11:00 AM
Using your logic, the war on poverty should also be discontinued. It has been going on longer then the war on drugs and we have more poor people at present.
Anonymous said...
"""Keep Watching Colorado. Free and legal MJ is not a good thing. """
Ever even been there?
Chicago is like its own 3rd world country. Man this place is a fucking shithole.
9/24/2014 05:06:00 PM
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Yes, I have been to Colorado. Used to be a nice place until it got Californicated.
Wow!..did I ever butcher my use of the word *your* and the contraction *you're* for 'you are'. I was taught better at good old Kelly High (grin).
So Thank You to any Spelling Nazis who wanted to jump on my errors but held back. I promise I'll carefully double-check the preview of my edits and edit any edits that need fixin' before I hit the 'Publish' button :-)
Anonymous said...
Legalize everything....
9/25/2014 12:04:00 AM
Yes, we conservatives will legalize everything as soon as we get the limited government we hypocritically keep preaching for.
What that means for you and all of your responsible freedom loving friends is that as soon as my taxes go down 97% and I'm allowed to carry a sidearm anywhere I feel like it, you will be able to take all the drugs you want and pay your own medical bills, school bills, parks, etc. No unemployment, no social security, no SS disability, etc.
Ready for that? I am.
Remember, though....nothing happens until my taxes go down 97%.
Yeah, lets just encourage, as Political and Law Enforcement Officials, making it even easier to obtain drugs and get high. Haven't we really progressed as a Nation .. Great goin, Democrats, anything to satisfy your greed for the Almighty Dollar. Stoned America, the goal of Democrat (Communist) U.S. Politicians and their Tools in Law Enforcement Management. Asian culture striving for intelligence and sky high Educational Standards, U.S. Democrat Politicians continue to strive for a dopes-up, dumbed-down America.
Anonymous said...
"...myths surrounding pot have been proving themselves wrong...I welcome you to point out one factual piece of information to back up your claim."
The West Side of Chicago.
9/24/2014 09:53:00 PM
...which has absolutely nothing to do with legal pot in Colorado.
Anonymous said...
To all the media trolls out it this way, a 'honor student' who may never get a scholarship according to Rahm, could have up to 19 'nickel' rocks each weighing .05 gram and selling for 5 to 10 bucks weighing a total of .95 grams. Now dont you think these bags are for sale? So media trolls dont you think this is crazy that someone could have 19 bags of crack on them and get charged with a misdemeanor? Sorry coppers for wasting your time on this post this was for the media who reads this. Look into this ask questions do your job! I know some of you are starting to question the emporer
Man, you are either a troll, desk cop, or uneducated citizen on the street value of marijuana. Its called a nickle bag because it's 5$. The street rate for a gram is $20. A nickle bag contains around .25 grams, not nearly enough for a decent joint so its mixed with tobacco. If you think 4 Marujuana/tobacco joints is enough for drug dealing, you sir are a moron.
Why is Ambien legal? Did you see the psychotic rage Rob Bironas went on. How could something with those kind of side effects be legal vs Marijauana?
Anonymous said...
My son got an underage drinking arrest that's a class A misdemeanor. How are these drugs not being punished as hard.
9/24/2014 08:21:00 PM
How is something that has a legal market(alcohol), just an arbitary age assigned to it, be more punishable than a substance(Marijuana etc) that has no legal market for it?
Lawmakers are too lazy change this I believe. Right now in Illinois Underage Consumption of Alcohol is a Class A misdemeanor and Posssesion of under an ounce of cannabis is a Class B misdemeanor.
"...myths surrounding pot have been proving themselves wrong...I welcome you to point out one factual piece of information to back up your claim."
The West Side of Chicago.
9/24/2014 09:53:00 PM
He/she said weed not heroin.
"Emanuel encouraged lawmakers to challenge the 'assumptions that are embedded in the criminal justice system.'"
Does he mean all that stuff about right and wrong?
9/24/2014 02:09:00 PM
WE HAVE A WINNER !
The brutal murder of 9 year old Antonio Smith by a gang member recently released from jail - this should and must be the story that moves Chicagoland to change how we punish hard core gang members who break our gun laws.
My suggestion is simple:
Gang members convicted of gun crimes, felony assault, attempted murder, murder - will be forever banned from the City of Chicago.
We will run the gang members out of town and with electric monitoring devices (for life) ensure that they never set foot in Chicago.
Where will they go?
I suggest the towns of New Haven CT (home of Yale university) and Cambridge MA (home of Harvard). Virtually all US supreme court justices and Presidential nominees from both parties wen to to Harvard and/or Yale. Our cowardly, corrupt elite needs to experience Chicago's gang members, up close and personal.
What do you say?
J
Council of Conservative Citizens
Anonymous said...
"...myths surrounding pot have been proving themselves wrong...I welcome you to point out one factual piece of information to back up your claim."
The West Side of Chicago.
9/24/2014 09:53:00 PM
...which has absolutely nothing to do with legal pot in Colorado.
9/25/2014 12:03:00 PM
Myth 1 Pot increases the urge to drink milk and eat chocolate chip cookies
Myth 2 Pot increases a sudden desire to play Jimmy Hendrix music full volume
Myth 3 Pot makes you drowsy and it becomes easier to just go to sleep
Myth 4 Pot causes cerebral atrophy
Anonymous said...
Sorry, SCC, but you're losing the difference between victimless offenses and actual crimes against people.
Hey moron. I don't want to be driving anywhere near anyone who is stoned. Pot these days is laced with everything. I don't care if it comes from a dispensary or not.
9/25/2014 07:58:00 AM
How about someone with a snootful of Jack Daniels?
Anonymous said...
To all the media trolls out it this way, a 'honor student' who may never get a scholarship according to Rahm, could have up to 19 'nickel' rocks each weighing .05 gram and selling for 5 to 10 bucks weighing a total of .95 grams. Now dont you think these bags are for sale? So media trolls dont you think this is crazy that someone could have 19 bags of crack on them and get charged with a misdemeanor? Sorry coppers for wasting your time on this post this was for the media who reads this. Look into this ask questions do your job! I know some of you are starting to question the emporer
Man, you are either a troll, desk cop, or uneducated citizen on the street value of marijuana. Its called a nickle bag because it's 5$. The street rate for a gram is $20. A nickle bag contains around .25 grams, not nearly enough for a decent joint so its mixed with tobacco. If you think 4 Marujuana/tobacco joints is enough for drug dealing, you sir are a moron.
9/25/2014 05:53:00 PM
He's talking about crack you fucking moron. Street rate for weed isn't $20. Nickle bags of weed don't contain .25g. Maybe in the suburban hydo weed world, but that is not what we are talking about. You sound like these retards the Tribune/Sun Times comment section who think that legalizing weed will end shit head violence. Shit heads don't give a fuck about weed. The good money is in dope and anybody with a pubic hair of time on the job knows this unless they have had their head stuck up their ass. You could legalize weed and you will still buy weed on the streets for cheaper. The real problem what with Rahm is proposing, and what the poster you ignorantly mocked pointed out is that have .95 g of crack will be misdemeanor. That amount of crack is not personal use and to think so makes you a fool.
Anonymous said...
And all convictions under the specified weight will be overturned. Bad idea.....
9/24/2014 07:24:00 AM
Really? A small PCS conviction should be looked at like a felony such as robbery and sexual assault?
9/25/2014 07:21:00 AM
It's not dumbfuck. That why they have classes(1,2,3,4,x). People don't go to prison for 1 PCS conviction and are offered drug school as a option the first time they catch a case. And a PCS under gram usually doesn't make it to trial.
Thank you for exposing this. This mayor is an absolute dumb a$$. Suburban police chiefs are pissed off surrounding Chicago that he is trying his decriminalization or legalization of drugs like heroine, cocaine, and ecstasy for the entire state. And the Superintendent who sits right next to him at this meeting, and sits there and agrees. So much for society having role models for children of today and tomorrow. I guess you can check off our current CPD superintendent in addition to the other corrupt politicians who want to send the message that drugs are cool and okay. Never thought i would see the morals of society plummet so quickly in the last few years because of our so-called leaders who want to make a few bucks in taxes off of illegal substances. I guess you would have to be on "crack" to vote for this idiots. Not to mention Preckwinkle wants to raise felony theft to higher amount. Let's just legalize everything cause crime and drugs are so fun and cool and "in fashion"!?
Obama stated in the news "The only language understood by killers like this is the language of force," concerning isis terrorist. Well let me tell you Rahm, Nancy and all the rest of you libtards that the only thing that the home grown urban terrorist understand is force. You have chosen another direction however for the citizens of this country where you have made the wolf a protected/dangerous species, muzzled the sheepdog that has paved the way for the slaughter of the sheep.
They just want to fuck up this country and cause chaos so they can declare martial law so nobody can question how much they steal.
I ain't nothin' but a simple man
They call me a redneck I reckon that I am
But there's things going on
That make me mad down to the core.
I have to work like a dog to make ends meet
There's crooked politicians and crime in the street
And I'm madder'n hell and I ain't gonna take it no more.
We tell our kids to just say no
Then some panty waist judge lets a drug dealer go
Slaps him on the wrist and then he turns him back out on the town.
Now if I had my way with people sellin' dope
I'd take a big tall tree and a short piece of rope
I'd hang 'em up high and let 'em swing 'til the sun goes down
Well, you know what's wrong with the world today
People done gone and put their Bible's away
They're living by the law of the jungle not the law of the land.
As far as I'm concerned there ain't no excuse
For the raping and the killing and the child abuse
And I've got a way to put an end to all that mess
Just take them rascals out in the swamp
Put 'em on their knees and tie 'em to a stump
Let the rattlers and the bugs and the alligators do the rest. Charlie Daniels 1989
You think things would have gotten better since those lyrics were written 25 years ago. Chicago leads the way in the decline of our nation. Born here and embarrassed to even tell someone where I'm from.
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