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Anyone willing to admit that at least one of the stations mergers has failed miserably?
- 012 is getting a satellite office in the old 013 Wood Street Station now occupied by Sheriff's deputies doing warrants. Will save us a lot of time spent driving to and from the 012 station.
Even though Staples was the driving force behind this -- based on input (begging) from officers and the community -- Ald. Moreno issued this earlier today taking most of the credit. Election year...
"When the Wood Street 13th District Police Station closed in 2012, the nearby residents were concerned that the closing would effect the safety of the immediate neighborhood. The mere presence of police officers gave nearby residents the comfort of having police officers nearby."
"At that time I vowed that the facility would continue to have a security presence. I worked closely with the Cook County Sheriffs office and in the Fall of last year, the Cook County Sheriff's office officially took over the Wood Street station and to this day, up to 75 sworn officers use the facility on a daily basis, bringing a deep sense of security to the community."
"Today, I am pleased to announce that the Wood Street Station will also serve as a Satellite Office for 12th District Chicago Police Officers. Although neighbors welcomed the Sheriff's office, they still felt that a presence of Chicago Police Officers would add to the safety of the neighborhood."
"Over the next month, I will be working hand in hand with the Sheriffs Office and the 12th District Police Office to welcome officers from the 12th District to the Wood Street Station. As your Alderman, safety is my number one priority and I want to thank the tremendous work of 12th District Commander Melissa Staples and the leaders in the Cook County Sheriffs' department. These dedicated individuals will make our neighborhood even safer when Chicago Police officers are working out of the Wood Street Station hand-in-hand with Cook County Sheriffs within the next month."
Seriously, have you seen the size of the new 012 on a map? And where 012 itself is located? And the neighborhoods and traffic in between. Now the Department is going to run a "satellite" office? Here's an idea....build a new building, somewhere in the area of ...oh Wood and Augusta. You could name it...013!
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posted by SCC at 5:31 AM
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Send them all back. Most have never tried to become one district.
Here's an idea....build a new building, somewhere in the area of ...oh Wood and Augusta. You could name it...013 !"
But this would involve some common sense thinking, something that the department lacks
What a miserable fail this 012/013 merger has been! Much fewer officers covering the same area. Forget about venturing to the other side of the district during 3rd watch. Not much better on 2nd watch after the morning rush hour. 1st watch sucks on the weekends. Crazy busy at times. We're so short handed it is difficult to get the day off. So many officers have bid out and many more continue to try. That in itself should tell you something. By the way, good luck getting a decent furlough if you have less than 10 yrs on. Really, this merger bites the big one as does the squad policing pilot program!! We don't have enough officers to run it as the order states. What a fail.
I agree 012 is way to big. Takes you a while to get to your calls because of the size of the district.
Typical fucking Shitcago alderman. Nothing but bullshitt pouring out of his mouth.
Maybe they could split 019 into two districts next and possibly use, ummm, Clark St as the border! They could put officers over in that building at Belmont and Western too! Parking, lockup, locker room, what's not to like?
So...
A tacit admission that blowing up districts and detective areas then "consolidating" the smoking wreckage while using the ensuing confusion as a smokescreen to steal hundreds of Policemen from tax paying areas was a fail?
Theft of resources in order to placate areas where the majority of the residents contribute nothing but willful gleeful ignorance, joyful hatred, the culture of death worship, love of tragedy, the resolute holding themselves apart from/rejecting the rest of society then becoming irate and resentful when the rest of society refuses to accommodate their ways or accept the 40 years of excuses for their resentment?
>Pfffft!<
If there's anybody with reason for resentment, it should be the good people held hostage in the garden spots of this city and the people whom tax dollars and public safety resources are being stolen from.
Rahm Emanuel and his wildly over-comped police executive flunky are detached from reality for trying to overlay bean-counterism on top of Policing/ Public Safety... Lives have been needlessly lost by conducting this failed experiment in Chicago...
Rahm, and his lapdog McFailure, never ever admit they're wrong or made a mistake.
Anyone who knows this city should have realized that the residents near the old 013 have nothing in common with the residents near the area of the new 012---with the possible exception of being huge Obama supporters.
We must take care of the New Elite.
But I will give them no keeses.
Awesome! More inside spots for the desk dollies to hide in. Now we will need someone for station security at that building.
The mayor will never admit to making a mistake.
And then maybe they can open a "satellite Area" at either Harrison/Kedzie or Grand/Central. It could be named Area West, in keeping with the crappy, failed consolidation debacle.
Do not expect common sense from upper level leadership. You will be disappointed every time.
Worked in the new 012 a couple times and couldn't believe how big it was. It took forever to get up by humbolt park from the station. Ridiculous. U would think they would take traffic into consideration seeing all we do is drive all day long.
Anonymous said...
Off topic......IPRA is looking into dozens of dispersals done in 011 on third watch by officers. Supposedly those that have been dispersed have gotten upwards of 25 cr#'s already and have retained the same lawyer. Seems Sgt. T.B. has ordered officers to give these dispersals, but guess what..... No contact cards were done. And offenders who returned to the scene were arrested ,guess what.....there was no documentation of them being dispersed. So now come the lawsuits for being arrested for just standing on the corner. Steer clear of Sgt.T.B. because you will be the one going down, not the white shirt.
10/15/2014 12:34:00 AM
I don't work in 011, but I wouldn't doubt this. He was a bonehead PO in 017 and a cocky know it all detective. And he has no problem screwing over a PO, he did it when he was a PO and did it when he was a detective. He also will throw anyone under the bus to get in good with whoever the LT is, he has a history of doing that.
Satellite offices aren't a good idea. Look at the one in 008. Nobody uses it. It was just a ploy to appease the public.
Here is an idea. Why not open the brand new lockup in 17! Has anyone thought how much police time is wasted driving the scum bags INTO 16? Serious? We NEED to import more crime into the home district of city workers?Who came up with that brain storm???
Not a cop but ;
How about just making the 12th district officers more accountable for doing their jobs and not hanging out for hours on end everyday at the coffee shops along division and Chicago avenues? You guys expect citizens to support your pension issues , yet my tax dollars are expected to pay for your extended breakfast and lunches?
My job permits me to take 30 minutes for lunch. If I am not back, I get in trouble and I cannot do my job and service my customers. You guys can't tell me that there is no crime going on in our neighborhood while you sit there for 1-2 hours everyday (same squad cars & same officers 1211-1213-1215-1223h-1222 ). We support you guys, but I wish we'd see you patrolling our streets and alleys in your spare time. Hopefully this will serve you notice that people do watch what you do. Stay safe and God bless all of you that do work.
The merger was a terrible idea. The old 12 was to politically entrenched. The old vanguard from 12 was determined to keep the status quo at the expense if the 13 officers. The residents should ask to see the number of police offices the day of the merge to now as many officers have left especially former 13 officers
and open one in the vicinity of Belmont & Western and call it 019 . then make the one near Addison and Halsted 023. brilliant!
Here's an idea....build a new building, somewhere in the area of ...oh Wood and Augusta. You could name it...013!
Well, that wouldn't let the city reduce manpower in the affected area by over 100 officers compared to 5 years ago, now would it?
019 is a nice place to work. One of the best commanders in the city:
Signed, every Greek officer and supervisor with the nice spot on days and all the OT you want. Don't transfer in unless your Greek. No more room for District Intelligence Officers!
Ready for Ebola? Whats CPD doing to protect officers ZZZzzzz FOP Silent again
And when they get done stealing manpower form 012, some poor copper could get it stuck in their moon because they didn't respond from say Kedzie & Division to Cermak & Halsted in a timely fashion because they were the only car available...
OT - Old time foot guy Bernie Feinstein from 020 & 024 died last night. Great guy.
013 should be knocked down, it was not a mistake closing it
parts of 013 should have been given to 014 though
According to the most recent decennial U.S. Census, over a QUARTER MILLION [>250,000] people reside in the CPD's 8th District.
This would qualify 008 as the second most populous city in the State of Illinois. Yet 008 is served by one police station as its extreme east border area has become "Englewood West".
When will Southwest Side taxpayers demand a second or even a third police station to serve this huge district?
019 District IS the same way! Too damn big! Too congested, especially during the day! Arrestees still have to be transported to Belmont and Western Station! So where is the savings, other than lettting manpower attrition down with few replacements and making existing Beats bigger with less Police Officers in area! Just a big downtown political cluster fuck out in 019 District!
Babies , look at size of 008. How many years has it been like that. Place should be divided. They got their Satillite office . A room in a public library that closes st 8 pm. Joke
That district needs to be split up back to how it was! Pronto!! It is too big and the staffing levels are low. The community was lied to when told that they would not lose officers after the merger. Many officers have bid out because of the bad working conditions. They are not being replaced. .
hey ssc i know alot of idiot coppers out there(do nothings) have bad mouthed STAPLES before, i worked for her when she was in 017 and can 100 percent say one best person i ever worked for and had the back of the working police, she is the best candidate for the sup job? i dont know but i will take her over a lot of the others,
My vote is for complete separation.
Right now, officers from 12 while out, can write up reports at the Academy at the Jackson station, etc; this would just be a 3rd location. Nothing more.
Rolecall won't be done there, it is unlikely patrols will ever be dispatched from Wood. Also, it will not be a satellite office in the sense that the public can come in, file reports, etc....doubt this? Right now, this Wood St Sheriff's office has locked doors at all entrances, has darkened and frosted windows to keep people from looking into the building. It is also not staffed 24x7. It is a warrant office and nothing more.
As usual, Moreno is massively overstating reality to try to put a happy spin on his continuing sinking popularity because he faces a very tough election in Feb
12 and 13...yuppie districts. Man them with 4 recruits and 2 transgener Spanish speakers. Also 25 report takers for the insurance claims.
Since you edit this before posting, just an OFF TOPIC
post....since OHare is one of the airports where Ebola can be expected to arrive on international flights, are there any guidelines being set up for where to take them/treat them/isolate them??? Will it be to Rush's new $100 Million Bill Gates "Global Health" wing??? Surely Resurrection and the 016th district can NOT handle this...or to send them off to Atlanta or one of the pre-selected new containment hospitals around the country?
Are there new directives for our officers/EMTS/firemen there at OHare???? Maybe you can check this out before posting.....scary times these are.....since a 2nd health care worker at Dallas has been diagnosed with Ebola....
God bless Wood St! God bless the 13th District! 013 forever!
Now all you 13th dist
Crybabies can go back to where u came from especially on 2 watch
No officers will be assigned to the satellite office. It's a room with a computer to do paperwork, file reports, etc., so we don't have to drive 30 min to the station and back to our beats.
Everyone hates each other.
I thought 025 was going to be renamed 013, and 024 renamed 021?
Anonymous said...
Maybe they could split 019 into two districts next and possibly use, ummm, Clark St as the border! They could put officers over in that building at Belmont and Western too! Parking, lockup, locker room, what's not to like?
10/15/2014 06:28:00 AM
Great idea! Can I take it one step further and suggest they have ANOTHER lockup? Maybe one on Addison? Might be easier for THOSE officers to process an arrest and be done with it!
Since you edit this before posting, just an OFF TOPIC
post....since OHare is one of the airports where Ebola can be expected to arrive on international flights, are there any guidelines being set up for where to take them/treat them/isolate them??? Will it be to Rush's new $100 Million Bill Gates "Global Health" wing??? Surely Resurrection and the 016th district can NOT handle this...or to send them off to Atlanta or one of the pre-selected new containment hospitals around the country?
Are there new directives for our officers/EMTS/firemen there at OHare???? Maybe you can check this out before posting.....scary times these are.....since a 2nd health care worker at Dallas has been diagnosed with Ebola....
10/15/2014 02:54:00 PM
Don't forget midway also has international travelers but absolutely no people being checked there! Poor planning as usual!
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...
Anyone who knows this city should have realized that the residents near the old 013 have nothing in common with the residents near the area of the new 012---with the possible exception of being huge Obama supporters.
We must take care of the New Elite.
But I will give them no keeses.
Lol!!
Staples...she is the best candidate for the sup job.
I said it a few months back, I will say it again.
She will be the first female Superintendent.
Ready for Ebola? Whats CPD doing to protect officers ZZZzzzz FOP Silent again..
They cant even settle a damn contract are you kidding me?
The merger was a terrible idea. The old 12 was to politically entrenched. The old vanguard from 12 was determined to keep the status quo at the expense if the 13 officers. The residents should ask to see the number of police offices the day of the merge to now as many officers have left especially former 13 officers
10/15/2014 08:44:00 AM
Perhaps it's because they can form sentences.
How's that GED working for you?
Quit crying about 8. There are no wealthy tax payers that live there
Are you kidding me? 19/23 merger was the worst of the worst hands down. I was the 190th person to leave. One of the smart ones. Even the bosses left! They forgot about one little thing when they merge the two districts, a little place called Wrigley Field that holds 41,000 people and another 10,000 people there to watch the game. Absolute chaos!!!
hey ssc i know alot of idiot coppers out there(do nothings) have bad mouthed STAPLES before, i worked for her when she was in 017 and can 100 percent say one best person i ever worked for and had the back of the working police, she is the best candidate for the sup job? i dont know but i will take her over a lot of the others,
Hmmm. Rahm does like her very much. Not the first time I've heard this.
Maybe they could split 019 into two districts next and possibly use, ummm, Clark St as the border! They could put officers over in that building at Belmont and Western too! Parking, lockup, locker room, what's not to like?
Ok, just stop with the crazy talk!!!!
Hell, if they did this, I might go back.
A better use for Ye Olde 013 is as an ebola decontamination site.
I'm sure CPD upper management will be providing us saps in District Patrol all the proper gear and protocols ASAP, but in case it slipped their collective mind, FYI:
http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/pdf/ppe-poster.pdf
Maybe 35th street expects us to use district flower funds to purchase equipment?
Miserable failure of RAHM. One of the reasons crime is up.
Sounds like its time for Roll Call training with Sgt. TQ. he'll set it straight.
To hell with anovs. Open 024's lockup, ditch the squad program and let's start busting some heads! People gettin shot left and right. Better parts of city are turning into shitholes under current management of resources.
Not a cop but ;
How about just making the 12th district officers more accountable for doing their jobs and not hanging out for hours on end everyday at the coffee shops along division and Chicago avenues? You guys expect citizens to support your pension issues , yet my tax dollars are expected to pay for your extended breakfast and lunches?
My job permits me to take 30 minutes for lunch. If I am not back, I get in trouble and I cannot do my job and service my customers. You guys can't tell me that there is no crime going on in our neighborhood while you sit there for 1-2 hours everyday (same squad cars & same officers 1211-1213-1215-1223h-1222 ). We support you guys, but I wish we'd see you patrolling our streets and alleys in your spare time. Hopefully this will serve you notice that people do watch what you do. Stay safe and God bless all of you that do work.
10/15/2014 08:26:00 AM
DAMN!
That may have pissed a lot of police off, but we all know its probably true!
the answer is easier than a satellite district.
If an arrest is in a certain beat (13**) send it to the distrcit that is closer (14/11/18).
They can also close the JISC center and process all the juvenile goofs by FAX! send all the reject dicks back to the area.
The watch commander could earn their pay and make sure the poor kids are treated right.
But who asked me... The city only spent 80 k on my multiple degrees from the paper mill colleges!
Hey 012 District, welcome to our world.
Signed 008 District
Anonymous Anonymous said...
God bless Wood St! God bless the 13th District! 013 forever!
10/15/2014 03:05:00 PM
God bless the University of Judge Saul Epton
Not a cop but ;
How about just making the 12th district officers more accountable for doing their jobs and not hanging out for hours on end everyday at the coffee shops along division and Chicago avenues? You guys expect citizens to support your pension issues , yet my tax dollars are expected to pay for your extended breakfast and lunches?
My job permits me to take 30 minutes for lunch. If I am not back, I get in trouble and I cannot do my job and service my customers. You guys can't tell me that there is no crime going on in our neighborhood while you sit there for 1-2 hours everyday (same squad cars & same officers 1211-1213-1215-1223h-1222 ). We support you guys, but I wish we'd see you patrolling our streets and alleys in your spare time. Hopefully this will serve you notice that people do watch what you do. Stay safe and God bless all of you that do work.
10/15/2014 08:26:00 AM
Are you sure they aren't on the BS Safe Passage detail? No way are squads on those beats down that long without getting a call.
Anonymous said...
That district needs to be split up back to how it was! Pronto!! It is too big and the staffing levels are low. The community was lied to when told that they would not lose officers after the merger. Many officers have bid out because of the bad working conditions. They are not being replaced. .
10/15/2014 01:33:00 PM
Take the northern part of the new 012, say from Chicago Ave, or even Grand or Lake St and give it to 014.
To the poster regarding Ipra and the 011th District third watch.
Ipra has WAY bigger problems coming down the pike than some contact card bullshit.
A few of the IPRA investigators have criminal and other charges pending and a couple of ugly major lawsuits that is going to rock IPRA.
By the way, unless force is alleged, procedural violations would be handled by IAD not IPRA.
IPRA would just botch it up anyway.
Anonymous said...
Since you edit this before posting, just an OFF TOPIC
post....since OHare is one of the airports where Ebola can be expected to arrive on international flights, are there any guidelines being set up for where to take them/treat them/isolate them??? Will it be to Rush's new $100 Million Bill Gates "Global Health" wing??? Surely Resurrection and the 016th district can NOT handle this...or to send them off to Atlanta or one of the pre-selected new containment hospitals around the country?
Are there new directives for our officers/EMTS/firemen there at OHare???? Maybe you can check this out before posting.....scary times these are.....since a 2nd health care worker at Dallas has been diagnosed with Ebola....
10/15/2014 02:54:00 PM
BOO-HOO-HOO... you actually are facing a dangerous situation for the first time in your 30 year career..... retire and let some hair-gels get a chance at 050... tell your clout heavy commander who's never seen the inside of a beat car to retire too and let that spot go to someone who has earned a relaxing spot!
Since Jesse Jackson has become the foremost export on Ebola in this country and it's BLATANT mistreatment of an innocent former Liberian Honor Student. From now on any and all Ebola cases should be sent to 930 E. 50th St for treatment provided by Operation PUSH, their phone #(773) 373-3366. Let the Dr. Rev Jackson solve this disease and take it out of the hands of the White Devil. Please provide any and all queries to this Medical and Spiritual Juggernaut.
012 needs PPOS.
That district needs to be split up back to how it was! Pronto!! It is too big and the staffing levels are low. The community was lied to when told that they would not lose officers after the merger. Many officers have bid out because of the bad working conditions. They are not being replaced. .
Don't forget all the officers detailed out to units.
omma says SWAT teams will handle Ebola
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I thought 025 was going to be renamed 013, and 024 renamed 021?
10/15/2014 03:42:00 PM
You thought wrong.
>>>Anonymous said...
Since you edit this before posting, just an OFF TOPIC
post....since OHare is one of the airports where Ebola can be expected to arrive on international flights, are there any guidelines being set up for where to take them/treat them/isolate them??? Will it be to Rush's new $100 Million Bill Gates "Global Health" wing??? Surely Resurrection and the 016th district can NOT handle this...or to send them off to Atlanta or one of the pre-selected new containment hospitals around the country?
Are there new directives for our officers/EMTS/firemen there at OHare???? Maybe you can check this out before posting.....scary times these are.....since a 2nd health care worker at Dallas has been diagnosed with Ebola....
10/15/2014 02:54:00 PM<<<
Any flight or ship coming from that part of the world should have to go a hard screening a separate quarantine facility. It may add a half day to travel but I think we are worth it.
Rahm can make money on it.
It's for the children.
"It is not practical to train individual officers to respond to a terrorist attack." Area 4 Deputy Chief Charlie Williams.
I wonder what he would say about ebola.
OT - Old time foot guy Bernie Feinstein from 020 & 024 died last night. Great guy.
10/15/2014 10:09:00 AM
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Did he work at Wright College?
The guys in 014 say give 012 there OWN radio zone.
They are a bunch of morons and not 1 HOUR goes by without asking a sergeant. What's up with that?
Incoming quarantine will be at Rush
No officers will be assigned to the satellite office. It's a room with a computer to do paperwork, file reports, etc., so we don't have to drive 30 min to the station and back to our beats.
10/15/2014 03:13:00 PM
Wait a minute.....Do you mean that reports can't be done by taking the PDT out of the car and moving it into the victim's home? How about keeping it in the mount? Why in the world would you have to go to a station to do a report? The city no longer supplies you with the 'Beat-link' flip phone to call in your tow? You mean 80% of your PDT's are in the shop? What am I missing?!?! Where have I been? Were we lied to about how all of this is going to work? /sarcasm
OT What ever became of the family members of the Ebola victim? The people Jessie Jackson brought to Chicago.
Can they please have roll-call for the foot guys there, that way Sgt. Howdie doodlie can call the "footsies" in private!
Satellite offices are BS to appease nervous Nellie yuppies. The CPD has been using them to bullshit voters for 30+ years. 024, 020, now 012.....ho hum.
These fuckers will still vote for Rahm because they hate us, and are desperate to believe that Rahm gives a fuck about them.
Check the thirty-three (33) most populous cities in the nation, all with populations over 500,000, concerning residency requirements for their municipal first responders.
It's obvious. Active CPD and CFD should be allowed to reside in all of suburban Cook Co. as well as Lake, DuPage and Will Counties in Illinois and Lake Co., Indiana.
Fortunately for those of us who live in the old 13th, Cmdr Staples is a longtime resident of the neighborhood and has made sure we kept our officers. Sure, there was some shake-up, but most of that was because officers who live on the north side didn't like the longer drive and bid out when they can.
Anonymous said...
OT - Old time foot guy Bernie Feinstein from 020 & 024 died last night. Great guy.
10/15/2014 10:09:00 AM
Bernie Feinstein, a genuine Chicago character. I worked with him in 024. He went by his own rule book. Known as "The Mayor of Devon Ave."
An old Bernie Feinstein story, he had occasion to stop a woman motorist. She gave him a lot of lip, he had her drivers license. This is how long ago that was, the drivers licenses were paper, not the laminated plastic of today. She kept mouthing off to Bernie so when Bernie had enough, he crumpled up the paper DL, put it in his mouth, chewed it up and ate it. He then wrote her a ticket for no DL.
In court she complained to the judge that she did in fact give the officer her drivers license but he ate it. Bernie meanwhile was making the crazy sign with his finger doing circles near his head, signaling to the judge that the lady was nuts.
The judge found her guilty.
Bernie had a small apartment over a store on Devon that was his official CPD address but you could find him with his family in the north suburbs, Skokie or Lincolnwood or something.
RIP Bernie, he is from a bygone era.
Staples...she is the best candidate for the sup job.
I said it a few months back, I will say it again.
She will be the first female Superintendent.
10/15/2014 05:21:00 PM
Agree. Female, LGBT, Masters degree from Northwestern -- same as Rahm. Rahm likes her -- ignored McFailure at opening of 012 to talk with her. That's why he treats her like shit at Comstat. Only dogass officers don't like her.
Anonymous said...
Are you kidding me? 19/23 merger was the worst of the worst hands down. I was the 190th person to leave. One of the smart ones. Even the bosses left! They forgot about one little thing when they merge the two districts, a little place called Wrigley Field that holds 41,000 people and another 10,000 people there to watch the game. Absolute chaos!!!
10/15/2014 05:43:00 PM
I worked for years in 019. That merger ruined 019, I retired a year early to get away from the shithole that was 023. 023 fucks got everything their way. sayonora, adios, goodbye. I did not want to work there and pulled the goddamned pin.
We had a guest speaker come into roll call the other day, and ask us to fill out a survey. The presenter said they would donate funds to the Chicago Police Memorial Foundation for every completed form. The surveys were developed by UCLA, and sponsored by UIC for distribution to police in Chicago. Of course I was immediately suspicious so I raised my hand and asked a few questions. First I asked why UIC and UCLA were asking us to take a survey when both of those schools obviously hate the police. For example, why would UIC want to know our opinion when they hired the domestic terrorist Bill Ayers for professor of Education in their Graduate school?
Answer: Bill Ayers doesn’t work there anymore.
What about UCLA? They are just as Liberal and probably more biased than UIC when it comes to their opinions concerning police. UCLA students and staff were equally as active as Ayers in the anti war movements during Viet Nam, and more than vocal during the Rodney King trial and L.A. riots.
Answer: UCLA just wrote the survey UIC is distributing it; there is a section in the back to write down your opinions if you choose to complete the survey.
This seems like those stickers we have to put on the backs of movers that ask our perception of the driver’s race, the end time of the stop, and search results if we had to search the car. It may seem like a small thing to do, but it’s still a burden. I realize it is not up to the officer to determine the race of the driver, but that is a survey to catch data on traffic stops for “driving while black” and to determine how many searches were conducted on vehicles driven by black people. Except it wasn't me who drives like an asshole, and if you look around most of the drivers in this district are the same race that I perceive you to be.
That “study” was meant to last one year but I think we’re going on five now. So why has it been going on for so long? Because the ACLU hasn’t put together enough data to prove that police are biased during traffic stops. What else are they planning to burden us with? In this survey we were asked to fill out our perception of some sort of racial difference in perceptions of police behavior during contact with the police, but asks the questions based on our perception of other officers and our supervisors. It also asks us if we have any physical ailments like headaches, dizziness, numbness to our hands or bodies and mood disorders. Well I don’t speak for everyone here, but I’m pretty sure nobody thinks the data gathered in this survey will be used to paint the police in a good way. So what’s next? Are we going to give people receipts for contact cards? Does anyone know the truth behind it or why this is being allowed in roll call?
Anonymous said...
Staples...she is the best candidate for the sup job.
I said it a few months back, I will say it again.
She will be the first female Superintendent.
10/15/2014 05:21:00 PM
And I'll say it again-she's not very smart and is easily manipulated-which makes a perfect superintendent in Rahm's eyes.
Not a cop but ;
How about just making the 12th district officers more accountable for doing their jobs and not hanging out for hours on end everyday at the coffee shops along division and Chicago avenues? You guys expect citizens to support your pension issues , yet my tax dollars are expected to pay for your extended breakfast and lunches?
My job permits me to take 30 minutes for lunch. If I am not back, I get in trouble and I cannot do my job and service my customers. You guys can't tell me that there is no crime going on in our neighborhood while you sit there for 1-2 hours everyday (same squad cars & same officers 1211-1213-1215-1223h-1222 ). We support you guys, but I wish we'd see you patrolling our streets and alleys in your spare time. Hopefully this will serve you notice that people do watch what you do. Stay safe and God bless all of you that do work
I wonder how many armed robberies, burglaries, muggings, thefts, etc happen at those coffee shops and the surrounding area when those cops are hanging out. Probably none. Even if cops are sitting somewhere for awhile, they're still doing their jobs by deterring crime in that area. Now start complaining about real issues like the mayor building hotels and office buildings for his campaign contributors with your tax dollars and judges and parole boards letting violent criminals walk free to rob and steal from people like you.
Please be careful out there and don't drink and blog!
Anonymous said...
hey ssc i know alot of idiot coppers out there(do nothings) have bad mouthed STAPLES before, i worked for her when she was in 017 and can 100 percent say one best person i ever worked for and had the back of the working police, she is the best candidate for the sup job? i dont know but i will take her over a lot of the others,
"They can also close the JISC center and process all the juvenile goofs by FAX! send all the reject dicks back to the area.
The watch commander could earn their pay and make sure the poor kids are treated right."
Maybe the poor kids should be treated right when you decide to arrest them for some chicken shit nonsense that could've been adjudicated on the scene.
You got all the answers except knowing how to be the Police you gutless wonder.
Maybe they could split 019 into two districts next and possibly use, ummm, Clark St as the border! They could put officers over in that building at Belmont and Western too! Parking, lockup, locker room, what's not to like?
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Forgetaboutit! The Dets have settled in very nicely at Area North and there's no more room at the inn. hahahahahahahahaha
I will post tommorow at 2 pm may be they being scc will post .
All district mergers should be undone and all returned to their original districts, and all lockups opened. it would help immensly.
After fighting with a dude in the street the other night, getting him cuffed in front and having him continue to resist even after handcuffed and leg-shackled, it was great to NOT have a wagon up on my watch! So I leaned on him for ten minutes while the wagon from the next district responded! Then that wagon had to take him to to the Area, since my district's lockup is closed.
The police department is not supposed to work this way--we are designed to have wagons, districts of a size that is reasonable to patrol, stations with lockups and sufficient vehicles for a reason! Officers get injured, they're out of service doing more and longer distance transports, contrary to the more-manpower goal of closing district lockups. Hell, I'm no old-timer, but this job isn't what it was even 12 years ago. It's really absurd that the powers-that-be that make these decisions in the name of efficiency don't just ask and observe experienced officers, who could tell them that their plans are not working.
10/15/2014 08:44:00 AM
Perhaps it's because they can form sentences.
How's that GED working for you?
Wow! You are so articulate and thoughtful in your debate.
Is that the best argument you have caveman? Have you never been a victim of autocorrect when typing from a phone? You received a 4 year degree in two months at Calumet College and now your the grammar and spelling police. Very thought provoking post Einstein.
Commander Staples is inaccessible to residents!
I pray that she goes somewhere then maybe we'll get a Commander who isn't so far up their own ass!
13 district officers & sgt's for the most part never even tried to learn about 12th district- I heard it several times- " Oh, we're from 13 district - we don't know this area". I had a 13th district officer & sergeant ask me what gangs were in 12th (approx. 2 months ago) and I'm a resident! Do your homework! If you're genuinely interested in policing then you should learn the area that you are patrolling especially for your own safety! We can't get any good response time in 12 district- it was bad before the merge with 13.
Despite what many of you tact guys think- 12th is still popping! A tact guy had the nerve to say 12th is easy- nothing going on - an occasional disturbance or haz-mat situation... Really?!
Sorry to say but 12th district is a "retirement district". It is seldom that you come across a working cop but we do have some (their backs must hurt).
As a resident, the merge of 12/13 stinks!
Not bashing you all but policing is not a profession for the lazy! Being a lazy, uninformed, slacker kind of cop puts you at risk, your fellow officers at risk and the residents who need your help at risk.
Stay safe. God bless.
Ebola is a Italian word.."I always picka Giuseppe to be ona my bowling team. Ebola a perfect game every time!"
I remember him from 024. He was a great guy. Did his job well while treating people fairly. RIP Bernie.
Anonymous said...
OT - Old time foot guy Bernie Feinstein from 020 & 024 died last night. Great guy.
10/15/2014 10:09:00 AM
"BOO-HOO-HOO... you actually are facing a dangerous situation for the first time in your 30 year career..... retire and let some hair-gels get a chance at 050... tell your clout heavy commander who's never seen the inside of a beat car to retire too and let that spot go to someone who has earned a relaxing spot!
10/15/2014 08:40:00 PM"
You think the people in 050 went there straight out of the academy 30 yrs ago? And BTW, T.A. was an excellent street copper, tac guy in 002 (when 002 was a 'project' District), and half of one of the best dic teams out there as a dic in A/1.
You haven't a clue what you're talking about , moron. Maybe get a few years on the job before you cry like a bitch.
"It is not practical to train individual officers to respond to a terrorist attack." Area 4 Deputy Chief Charlie Williams.
I wonder what he would say about ebola.
10/15/2014 09:38:00 PM
Training costs money.
Less to spend for your buddies' contracts.
Not a cop but ;
How about just making the 12th district officers more accountable for doing their jobs and not hanging out for hours on end everyday at the coffee shops along division and Chicago avenues? You guys expect citizens to support your pension issues , yet my tax dollars are expected to pay for your extended breakfast and lunches?
My job permits me to take 30 minutes for lunch. If I am not back, I get in trouble and I cannot do my job and service my customers. You guys can't tell me that there is no crime going on in our neighborhood while you sit there for 1-2 hours everyday (same squad cars & same officers 1211-1213-1215-1223h-1222 ). We support you guys, but I wish we'd see you patrolling our streets and alleys in your spare time. Hopefully this will serve you notice that people do watch what you do. Stay safe and God bless all of you that do work.
Are you sure you're not exaggerating how long they're sitting there?
2 hours for 3 cars from the same sector??? I don't think so.
It's the same when people think it takes a half an hour for the police or an ambulance to show up when it only took 4 minutes
Superintendent Staples...you heard it here first. Anyone that has worked for her would agree she would be a good candidate. Puts up with a lot of shit from our current Supe. I've seen it first hand. Come on Rahm...make the move.
Rahmbo to McNutty: "Hey I've got it! Let's divide the city into 25 police districts based on the population and then make 5 central Areas of dicks that support those districts?! Too complicated you say? you're right, it's an election year." These idiots are too much for common sense!
Hmmm. Rahm does like her very much. Not the first time I've heard this.
Its doesn't matter if Rahmy likes you. It's if you are of use to him.
How long does it take for area Central detectives to drive to or from the Northwest corner of 018 I think it is Fullerton and the River to 5100 S Wentworth?
close 24 , one less commander
20 house cats , 30 tactical back in blue , it would be better for city .
Since Jesse Jackson has become the foremost export on Ebola in this country and it's BLATANT mistreatment of an innocent former Liberian Honor Student. From now on any and all Ebola cases should be sent to 930 E. 50th St for treatment provided by Operation PUSH, their phone #(773) 373-3366. Let the Dr. Rev Jackson solve this disease and take it out of the hands of the White Devil. Please provide any and all queries to this Medical and Spiritual Juggernaut.
10/15/2014 08:49:00 PM
Surprise surprise. He took time out of his busy schedule to pull himself away from stirring the shit stew in Ferguson to go "support" this Libyan liar and his ilk. They are pursuing a medical malpractice lawsuit against the hospital for neglect and lack of care because he was black. That's become the catch-all excuse now because every time anyone who is black and from a low-income area experiences a harm in their lives, the blame is placed on everyone else, particularly the white population. The only exception to this is the gang violence that perpetuates black on black crime- there is no outcry, marching, rallies, lawsuits, or media blitz regarding that- maybe because there is no profit to be made from these events. Otherwise they are never responsible for any of their own actions.
Maybe the poor kids should be treated right when you decide to arrest them for some chicken shit nonsense that could've been adjudicated on the scene.
You got all the answers except knowing how to be the Police you gutless wonder.
10/16/2014 12:32:00
Cry cry cry you fucking baby. Just for that I'm going to bring a 4 piece gang loitering. I'll make sure they are extra ignorant for your dumb ass. Momma will get there when she gets there. I'm not staying either. LT's orders.
Shouldn't be much of a problem seeing how must cars spend their tour either on taylor / madison / or division streets. I've worked in 012 several times and every time we call for an assist in the south end, you hear the cars coming from the north end. Never coming from around corner or east/west!
Like the poster stated about cars being down on long breaks/lunches. I also happen to live in 012 and it's embarrasing to go into a restaurant/coffee shop on my days off and see coppers from 012 hanging out, be done w my lunch or shopping and leave and they're still there bullshitting!!!
Come on guys be smarter than that!
I was in the 7-11 on Taylor St and overheard the owner bitch at one the employees saying something like "have u asked those cops that hang out here all day? Maybe they can do some work for once!"
Not all 012 coppers R dog asses, but I know many that are. Sorry to say
Anonymous said...
Commander Staples is inaccessible to residents!
I pray that she goes somewhere then maybe we'll get a Commander who isn't so far up their own ass!
13 district officers & sgt's for the most part never even tried to learn about 12th district- I heard it several times- " Oh, we're from 13 district - we don't know this area". I had a 13th district officer & sergeant ask me what gangs were in 12th (approx. 2 months ago) and I'm a resident! Do your homework! If you're genuinely interested in policing then you should learn the area that you are patrolling especially for your own safety! We can't get any good response time in 12 district- it was bad before the merge with 13.
Despite what many of you tact guys think- 12th is still popping! A tact guy had the nerve to say 12th is easy- nothing going on - an occasional disturbance or haz-mat situation... Really?!
Sorry to say but 12th district is a "retirement district". It is seldom that you come across a working cop but we do have some (their backs must hurt).
As a resident, the merge of 12/13 stinks!
Not bashing you all but policing is not a profession for the lazy! Being a lazy, uninformed, slacker kind of cop puts you at risk, your fellow officers at risk and the residents who need your help at risk.
Stay safe. God bless.
10/16/2014 04:25:00 AM
Staples is inaccessible? You're joking, right? She gives out her email online and in CAPS meetings. And she personally answers her emails. Perhaps your approach was as rude as post.
With regard to old 013 officers vs. old 012. I find the 012 officers to be dogass whiners. You can keep them south of the Ike. You're welcome to them.
Involved citizen from the old 013.
019/023
023 is not a fast district, but was busier than 019. 019 was a retirement district, with a sizable portion of those retiring after five years on the job. An in-progress job or backup in 019 the majority of the time had to be assigned, no one would answer up and no Sgt would get on the air and start calling cars out. If you can't get your personnel to do their work in a high rent district full of relatively normal people how can you get them to handle a job in Boystown or "gasp" Uptown?
For the record, 023 did not get "their way" in the merge. It was the 019 commander Kenny (by the way happy retirement boss) and his front office that came over. The current commander is not from 023, but they had the XO from 019 for quite some time. Oh I suppose you'll bitch about the tact team favoritism. Teams were kept on activity, period.
Bottom line is, it was an inconveinence to drive another two miles to work. It wasn't a dump to 011 or 007. Manpower would have been continued to be stripped from both places regardless.
Commander Staples is inaccessible to residents!
I pray that she goes somewhere then maybe we'll get a Commander who isn't so far up their own ass!
13 district officers & sgt's for the most part never even tried to learn about 12th district- I heard it several times- " Oh, we're from 13 district - we don't know this area". I had a 13th district officer & sergeant ask me what gangs were in 12th (approx. 2 months ago) and I'm a resident! Do your homework! If you're genuinely interested in policing then you should learn the area that you are patrolling especially for your own safety! We can't get any good response time in 12 district- it was bad before the merge with 13.
Despite what many of you tact guys think- 12th is still popping! A tact guy had the nerve to say 12th is easy- nothing going on - an occasional disturbance or haz-mat situation... Really?!
Sorry to say but 12th district is a "retirement district". It is seldom that you come across a working cop but we do have some (their backs must hurt).
As a resident, the merge of 12/13 stinks!
Not bashing you all but policing is not a profession for the lazy! Being a lazy, uninformed, slacker kind of cop puts you at risk, your fellow officers at risk and the residents who need your help at risk.
Stay safe. God bless.
If I had wanted to work in 12 I would have before the merge. I'm from the 13th district for a reason, because I care about the people up there and don't care what happens south of Kinzie.
The West Loop is one of the fastest growing areas in the city. Expect a population boom to follow the building boom. High risers and multi-unit condo buildings are replacing parking lots, vacant lots, warehouses and factories at an alarming pace. Numerous are currently under construction. Headquarters better start planning. There really aren't enough police officers to cover this mega district that is 012. When shit hits the fan it becomes evident how short-handed the district is. Response times for backup are high due to the far distances traveled--a glaring officer safety issue. My spouse has been advised to contact an attorney if I get injured as a result of this.
The merger has been a major screw up. A pennywise decision that has proven to be a pound foolish. The best solution would be to undo it. 012 and 013 ran fine before the merger.
Open up Area 5. I can't work with these old Area 3 guys. I think they are from a different planet.
Clay, I know I was initially suspicious as well about the whole study/survey that is being distributed among our ranks as well. I read through and completed the survey because I felt that if someone is interested in our opinion we should take the opportunity and give feedback about our experience. God knows the city administration does not care, and neither does our union, so besides airing our grievances here on SCC, this study seems like the only other forum to do that. You don't have to answer every question, or questions you feel uncomfortable with, and it is anonymous. There is space at the end where you can include additional thoughts or recommendations, which I did. Maybe if enough people contribute their ideas and show a collective need for changing our severely dysfunctional department, conditions will improve. We have to try.
Reply to BOO-HOO-HOO from 10/15/2014 at 8:40pm
Listen MORON......the last thing we need is an Ebola epidemic here in Chicago....I have not nor will I ever work at OHare....so not "whining" for myself...I asked out of genuine concern for all who do work out there, who may have find themselves with someone ill from a flight...for those who live near OHare...for coppers/firemen whose wives/kids/moms work at Res Hosp or LGH...Is this where a sick person would be taken??
Why are there no directives?? Why no plan as yet? Where/by whom/how would someone ill be taken for help? Where's the Mayor's BIG PLAN?? What is the MC doing about it all? Are they gonna wait til something actually happens?
I pray that she goes somewhere then maybe we'll get a Commander who isn't so far up their own ass!
13 district officers & sgt's for the most part never even tried to learn about 12th district- I heard it several times- " Oh, we're from 13 district - we don't know this area". I had a 13th district officer & sergeant ask me what gangs were in 12th (approx. 2 months ago) and I'm a resident! Do your homework! If you're genuinely interested in policing then you should learn the area that you are patrolling especially for your own safety! We can't get any good response time in 12 district- it was bad before the merge with 13.
Despite what many of you tact guys think- 12th is still popping! A tact guy had the nerve to say 12th is easy- nothing going on - an occasional disturbance or haz-mat situation... Really?!
Sorry to say but 12th district is a "retirement district". It is seldom that you come across a working cop but we do have some (their backs must hurt).
As a resident, the merge of 12/13 stinks!
Where do you live so special attention can be paid to you specifically. As for Commander Staples if your not a Aldermen she's too busy to bother with the average Joe. Follow the chain of command p.o. sgt., lt. capt.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ebola is a Italian word.."I always picka Giuseppe to be ona my bowling team. Ebola a perfect game every time!"
10/16/2014 04:34:00 AM
Lol really good "that's a Italian"
Commander staples is great to work for. The supervisors in 12 leave much to be desired. I use to work there and know first hand that the 10 and 20 sectors are loaded with DOGS. All the workers are/were in the 30 sector (Pilsen). Proof was in the stats. 10 sector gets hammered with burglaries, 20 sector has burglaries/robbery issues. I couldn't take it anymore and transferred out but still live in 12 (unfortunately in the 10 sector). On a good note, the earlier posting about the police cars lined up alone division every morning was right on and the observation worked as there was only one car out there today and took their coffee to go.
ssc i say send gmac packing ny and promoted STAPLES shwe is a greater leader and not a clout heavy prick from either the 11th or 19th wards.
Not a cop but ;
How about just making the 12th district officers more accountable for doing their jobs and not hanging out for hours on end everyday at the coffee shops along division and Chicago avenues? You guys expect citizens to support your pension issues , yet my tax dollars are expected to pay for your extended breakfast and lunches?
My job permits me to take 30 minutes for lunch. If I am not back, I get in trouble and I cannot do my job and service my customers. You guys can't tell me that there is no crime going on in our neighborhood while you sit there for 1-2 hours everyday (same squad cars & same officers 1211-1213-1215-1223h-1222 ). We support you guys, but I wish we'd see you patrolling our streets and alleys in your spare time. Hopefully this will serve you notice that people do watch what you do. Stay safe and God bless all of you that do work.
Aren't you more upset about your tax dollars paying for housing and food so drug dealers from the hood can live and eat for free and go to CPS schools for free and not have to work?. And aren't you pissed that the mayor gave millions of property tax dollars to his campaign donors?
By the way, if you complain about the police presence in your neighborhood that means you don't support the police. You can't have it both ways.
Anonymous said...
Superintendent Staples...you heard it here first. Anyone that has worked for her would agree she would be a good candidate. Puts up with a lot of shit from our current Supe. I've seen it first hand. Come on Rahm...make the move.
10/16/2014 07:12:00 AM
She puts up with a lot of shit from our current supe and that somehow makes her qualified? You must be one of her groupies.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Maybe the poor kids should be treated right when you decide to arrest them for some chicken shit nonsense that could've been adjudicated on the scene.
You got all the answers except knowing how to be the Police you gutless wonder.
10/16/2014 12:32:00
Cry cry cry you fucking baby. Just for that I'm going to bring a 4 piece gang loitering. I'll make sure they are extra ignorant for your dumb ass. Momma will get there when she gets there. I'm not staying either. LT's orders.
10/16/2014 09:28:00 AM
Your LT doesn't outrank a deputy chief and Chief. Now drive these kids home.
Not a cop but ;
How about just making the 12th district officers more accountable for doing their jobs and not hanging out for hours on end everyday at the coffee shops along division and Chicago avenues? You guys expect citizens to support your pension issues , yet my tax dollars are expected to pay for your extended breakfast and lunches?
My job permits me to take 30 minutes for lunch. If I am not back, I get in trouble and I cannot do my job and service my customers. You guys can't tell me that there is no crime going on in our neighborhood while you sit there for 1-2 hours everyday (same squad cars & same officers 1211-1213-1215-1223h-1222 ). We support you guys, but I wish we'd see you patrolling our streets and alleys in your spare time. Hopefully this will serve you notice that people do watch what you do. Stay safe and God bless all of you that do work.
Are you sure you're not exaggerating how long they're sitting there?
2 hours for 3 cars from the same sector??? I don't think so.
It's the same when people think it takes a half an hour for the police or an ambulance to show up when it only took 4 minutes
Don't take my word for it, check it out for yourself. Next time I'll take pictures and post them if allowed. You must be one of them policeman that loses track of their lunch 30 minutes. We must be lucky to have you in the 10 sector. I know your cars have gps. It doesn't lie. Neither do I. I'll make sure to bring the video to the district commanders office this week if that's what it takes to prove my point. Just do what your paid to do Officer.
For the record, 023 did not get "their way" in the merge. It was the 019 commander Kenny (by the way happy retirement boss) and his front office that came over. The current commander is not from 023, but they had the XO from 019 for quite some time. Oh I suppose you'll bitch about the tact team favoritism. Teams were kept on activity, period.
Yeah, ok. Kenny was moved in late summer of 2012, less than 6 months after the merge. No 019 lieutenants ever went. Like him, hate him, or indifferent towards him, former XO used to see what old 023 people were doing to 019 people (especially on 3rd watch), and used to call them out on it and change it back. Eli and Co. came in and brought old 023 front office people back in, plus a few of his own choices. Tact Lt. got rid of most of the old 019 tact people, not on stats. Ask Gablin's old team. They had better numbers than three other teams, but were the first to go. Which team ended up on midnights as the Clark st detail team? Not 023 guys. After old XO left, it became a free for all, especially with 3rd watch lt who is now in Colorado. That 3rd watch desk crew MR, LM, and the ever friendly house mouse sgt, CG, all taking care of certain 023 people was a huge reason why so many people left in the mass exodus over the last 10 months.
Get rid of your joke of "burglary team"
When I was in 12, they had a auto theft team that couldn't find a hot car in a garage fire! Their reward was to be transferred to the burglary team. The burglary team that consisted of guys that were kicked off the tact team for lack of activity. Then you wonder why morale is low???
The few good policeman left will soon burn themselves out. Good luck to those few guys. I'll be thinking about you while I venture to my new district. Stay safe. RR & MO
Don't take my word for it, check it out for yourself. Next time I'll take pictures and post them if allowed. You must be one of them policeman that loses track of their lunch 30 minutes. We must be lucky to have you in the 10 sector. I know your cars have gps. It doesn't lie. Neither do I. I'll make sure to bring the video to the district commanders office this week if that's what it takes to prove my point. Just do what your paid to do Officer.
10/16/2014 05:30:00 PM
Heads up Officers...
Since Mistuh "I Pay You Guys Too Much For You To Grab a Cup and Take a Piss" has his nose out of joint, then by all means give him what he wants...
Make yourselves hard to find and stay away from those coffee spots on Chicago Ave. and Division St.
Let Mistuh "I Pay You Guys Too Much" wonder where The Police disappeared to when he leaves a coffee emporium with his nice frothy cuppa only to get eyeballed and rubbed on by Dude.
Do it the old fashioned way.
Somebody bitches about "all those cops over by there?" Give 'em what they want and don't be "over by there."
Dude ain't stupid...
Dude ALWAYS notices when The Police make themselves scarce.
Wild Kingdom Concept...
Sheep who tell the sheepdogs to go away find themselves up to their tender asses in wolves.
The person complaining is a smug, insufferable ass and an oversized hypocrite. Every job has unstructured down time so please spare us adults with you fairy tale about how dedicated an employee you are.
Had the same problem years ago with a Mistuh "I Pay You Guys Too Much." Everybody did a stay-away and the place was robbed three times in a little over a month.
>Begging the District for a "special attention" and trying to make nice with the beat cops to make them stick around in the area<
Give 'em what they want then just laugh and drop reports in the aftermath.
Watch yourselves Officers...
This person sounds like a chronic beefer since he referenced GPS, threatened to shoot video and probably has a scanner so he can try to jackpot you.
*****How about just making the 12th district officers more accountable for doing their jobs and not hanging out for hours on end everyday at the coffee shops along division and Chicago avenues? You guys expect citizens to support your pension issues , yet my tax dollars are expected to pay for your extended breakfast and lunches?
My job permits me to take 30 minutes for lunch. If I am not back, I get in trouble and I cannot do my job and service my customers. You guys can't tell me that there is no crime going on in our neighborhood while you sit there for 1-2 hours everyday (same squad cars & same officers 1211-1213-1215-1223h-1222 ). We support you guys, but I wish we'd see you patrolling our streets and alleys in your spare time. Hopefully this will serve you notice that people do watch what you do. Stay safe and God bless all of you that do work.******
*****hey STOKE, why don't you walk past your local CFD firehouse and video tape what they do in 24hrs. Sleep, eat, wash personal cars, conduct bussiness for their other gig while on city time, watching porn, and always on facebook
Commander staples is great to work for. The supervisors in 12 leave much to be desired. I use to work there and know first hand that the 10 and 20 sectors are loaded with DOGS. All the workers are/were in the 30 sector (Pilsen). Proof was in the stats. 10 sector gets hammered with burglaries, 20 sector has burglaries/robbery issues. I couldn't take it anymore and transferred out but still live in 12 (unfortunately in the 10 sector). On a good note, the earlier posting about the police cars lined up alone division every morning was right on and the observation worked as there was only one car out there today and took their coffee to go.
10/16/2014 03:39:00 PM
I live in 012 and know for a fact my 3rd watch beat officer in the 20 sector, PV, is one of the hardest working officers I've ever encountered.
Anonymous said...
Open up Area 5. I can't work with these old Area 3 guys. I think they are from a different planet.
10/16/2014 11:36:00 AM
Shit, you goofs from Area 5 are from a different planet as well. What a bunch of entitlement crybabies!
Not a cop but ;
How about just making the 12th district officers more accountable for doing their jobs and not hanging out for hours on end everyday at the coffee shops along division and Chicago avenues? You guys expect citizens to support your pension issues , yet my tax dollars are expected to pay for your extended breakfast and lunches?
My job permits me to take 30 minutes for lunch. If I am not back, I get in trouble and I cannot do my job and service my customers. You guys can't tell me that there is no crime going on in our neighborhood while you sit there for 1-2 hours everyday (same squad cars & same officers 1211-1213-1215-1223h-1222 ). We support you guys, but I wish we'd see you patrolling our streets and alleys in your spare time. Hopefully this will serve you notice that people do watch what you do. Stay safe and God bless all of you that do work.
Are you sure you're not exaggerating how long they're sitting there?
2 hours for 3 cars from the same sector??? I don't think so.
It's the same when people think it takes a half an hour for the police or an ambulance to show up when it only took 4 minutes
Don't take my word for it, check it out for yourself. Next time I'll take pictures and post them if allowed. You must be one of them policeman that loses track of their lunch 30 minutes. We must be lucky to have you in the 10 sector. I know your cars have gps. It doesn't lie. Neither do I. I'll make sure to bring the video to the district commanders office this week if that's what it takes to prove my point. Just do what your paid to do Officer.
Hmmmmm and soon as I find out who you are im going to bring video of you stalking the police for 1 to 2 hours because obviously your are also taking 1 to 2 hours from your job. I love these yuppie scum who say I respect you guys (the police) but....... If there is a but you obviously don't you tool!!
Bring back those 1231H guys!!!!!!!!
It's a shame that Melissa Staples has been a commander for over 4 years now. She should have been moved out of patrol to Commander of a D unit or specialized unit, at least. If not promoted to Deputy Chief. So if Rahm loves her so much, why isn't this happening? Why isn't she getting moved up thru the ranks? We all know Rahm runs the department, not Garry.
Captains xo lt all know cars are down hiding , do they check GPS
Heck no. , to busy doing nada
Merit cowards afraid of street afraid to supervise
That is why SERGEANTS run the watch .
Please send the 13 district whiners back. I'm sick of hearing I can't get a day off bc this is 12. How about you can't get a day off bc you are lowest on the totem pole? It's a freaking police district and these cops are acting like its a gang territory. "Wood st foreva". I don't know why they whine, our bosses are mostly from 13. It's been 2 yrs already just stfu already.
019/023 merge was in Nov 2011, late summer 2012 would make that closer to 9-10mos, not 6mos
Eli didn't owe 023 people anything, maybe he thought the front office wasn't running well enough and decided to try the 023 crew
Anyone who tells you the tact dumps weren't activity based is full of shit, numbers don't lie
"...a deep sense of security to the community."
Please... These people are some of the most nasty, low class and deeply closeted police haters.
You should hear how they run coppers down when they think they're among friends.
No matter what you do, it's never enough to please them because the prevailing attitude is: "I pay a shit ton of taxes and they aren't doing shit to earn their keep."
...Think about that the next time you're rolling around with asshole who was running from a scene with both pockets and a backpack full of Mr./Ms. High Taxes good shit.
"I just want my stuff back, no I don't wanna sign complaints and I don't have time to go to court on this."
And sure as shit they'll have a problem with you thumping a hard head to effect the arrest and secure their property.
Respond.
Arrive safely.
Get a description.
Drop a report.
Disappear in a puff of smoke...
The bland and flavorless Policing they've wanted for the last 25 years.
The days of head knocking, eye slapping, toe stepping and ass kicking are way done.
Police like you have no friends.
Shouldn't be much of a problem seeing how must cars spend their tour either on taylor / madison / or division streets. I've worked in 012 several times and every time we call for an assist in the south end, you hear the cars coming from the north end. Never coming from around corner or east/west!
Like the poster stated about cars being down on long breaks/lunches. I also happen to live in 012 and it's embarrasing to go into a restaurant/coffee shop on my days off and see coppers from 012 hanging out, be done w my lunch or shopping and leave and they're still there bullshitting!!!
Come on guys be smarter than that!
I was in the 7-11 on Taylor St and overheard the owner bitch at one the employees saying something like "have u asked those cops that hang out here all day? Maybe they can do some work for once!"
Not all 012 coppers R dog asses, but I know many that are. Sorry to say
Looks like some of the citizens of the NEW 012 really have some of your numbers. Better to concentrate on doing a better job at keeping your job from the posts these citizens are posting here, than whining about minor crap. Where are the inspectors? If the citizens see such blatant and open laziness, surely the inspectors have to see it too.
019/023 merge was in Nov 2011, late summer 2012 would make that closer to 9-10mos, not 6mos
Eli didn't owe 023 people anything, maybe he thought the front office wasn't running well enough and decided to try the 023 crew
Anyone who tells you the tact dumps weren't activity based is full of shit, numbers don't lie
First day of the merge, March 4, 2012. Same day as the anniversary of the incorporation of the City of Chicago. I was there. Look it up. Gablin's team had better numbers, they were the first to go. Find out where Bates' team fit in on the scale....dead last. Once again, I was there.
close 24 , way to many police hiding inside
poor management
If I had wanted to work in 12 I would have before the merge. I'm from the 13th district for a reason, because I care about the people up there and don't care what happens south of Kinzie.
As a fellow police officer who lives in 012 (south of Kinzie)
Has family in 012 You are a fucking disgrace!
Look at the patch on the left side of your uniform shirt, or the badge you carry ... Or better yet the RED letters on the side of the squad car you get into every time
It fucking says CHICAGO Police!!
You're a sorry excuse for a cop!
That is the exact attitude most coppers from 012/013 have!
Wow
To the whining not a cop:I love seeing cops loitering about in an area where I'm dining or going for coffee. Maybe you haven't noticed, but it's like the best free security for a place. Also not a cop....
No way Gablin's team had more than Bates! They locked up twenty Cub ticket scalpers a week alone! Even legitimate people just getting rid of an extra ticket!
You're a sorry excuse for a cop!
That is the exact attitude most coppers from 012/013 have!
Wow
thanks
f the citizens see such blatant and open laziness, surely the inspectors have to see it too.
10/17/2014 06:24:00 AM
Inspector. Maybe you could go get one at Wishbone.
It's a shame that Melissa Staples has been a commander for over 4 years now. She should have been moved out of patrol to Commander of a D unit or specialized unit, at least. If not promoted to Deputy Chief. So if Rahm loves her so much, why isn't this happening? Why isn't she getting moved up thru the ranks? We all know Rahm runs the department, not Garry.
Oh ye of little faith. 12 is a stepping stone. Has and always will be. Change is coming to 12 and from what I hear people will not be happy. Except for Melissa.
To the whining not a cop:I love seeing cops loitering about in an area where I'm dining or going for coffee. Maybe you haven't noticed, but it's like the best free security for a place. Also not a cop....
10/17/2014 01:39:00 PM
Enjoy your breakfast while your house gets burglarized you moron
It's a shame that Melissa Staples has been a commander for over 4 years now. She should have been moved out of patrol to Commander of a D unit or specialized unit, at least. If not promoted to Deputy Chief. So if Rahm loves her so much, why isn't this happening? Why isn't she getting moved up thru the ranks? We all know Rahm runs the department, not Garry.
Oh ye of little faith. 12 is a stepping stone. Has and always will be. Change is coming to 12 and from what I hear people will not be happy. Except for Melissa.
10/17/2014 06:56:00 PM
Spot on.
For all the bitching and moaning I see in this post, isn't the end game that every sworn officer in this city should have is to keep people like me safe and to go home to his/her family at the end of their watch? If you accomplish that, you're a hero in my book.
God bless you.
For all the bitching and moaning I see in this post, isn't the end game that every sworn officer in this city should have is to keep people like me safe and to go home to his/her family at the end of their watch? If you accomplish that, you're a hero in my book.
God bless you.
10/18/2014 01:30:00 AM
Thank you for the kind words and the blessing. Yes that is the ultimate goal; to keep each other safe and go home to our families. Unfortunately there are more than a few officers in our district that are only there for the paycheck and do not understand the meaning of brotherhood. Would you allow your brother to do your work because you are hiding out staying down on your jobs too long? Would you fail to make yourself available to back up your brother if he/she should call for assistance because you are sitting in the station entering a single contact card that could wait til we are all safely inside at the end of the day? Our pay checks are the same, however our idea of policing is quite different. Hopefully the cowards that read this will get shamed into changing their ideology. I'm no super cop, but I am there each and every time I'm needed by my fellow officers. Gas, low tires and contact cards are not my top priority. Anyone who works in 12 knows what and who I'm talking about. The day I get to be that way, will be the day that I retire. Stay safe brothers!
To the whining not a cop:I love seeing cops loitering about in an area where I'm dining or going for coffee. Maybe you haven't noticed, but it's like the best free security for a place. Also not a cop....
10/17/2014 01:39:00 PM
Enjoy your breakfast while your house gets burglarized you moron
10/17/2014 07:26:00 PM
Nice leap of logic Mr. Malcontent...
If there's a moron, the fickle finger points toward you.
The Police aren't everywhere enough to please you?
You're the same one who gets in a Policeman's face when he's:
Running into a place to take a piss.
Standing in line waiting for his take-out order.
Picking up his kid's prescription.
Etc...
We're all human and life does happen...
Well... Except for Policemen. Right?
You're the heathen who drives by and yell stupid shit at a Policeman taking five minutes to talk with a citizen...
"Duhhh... Nice to see MY TAX DOLLARS going to pay you guys to stand around and talk!"
It's not all about you and how YOU feel about what you think Policemen should or shouldn't be doing.
Maybe The Police will have much better things to do than respond to YOUR screams for help when something big and ugly is standing over your bed watching YOU sleep.
It's going to suck when you're a victim of your own smug attitude and expectations.
Finally. The merger has been the worst ever. I have lived in either the 012 or 013th Dist for the last 15 years and have seen the area I currently live in, West Town, have a huge surge in crime. Small things like graffiti and garage burglaries and larger issues like gang activity and shootings. There are simply too few officers for the area, duh. I think we all saw that coming! How about a little VRI presence for us too??!?!
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