Up To Strength? Hardly
The CrimeInBoystown blog has been hammering the crap out of Rahm and Garry over manpower issues. Here's a look at some of it:
- Two guys were peeking into Boystown yards early Saturday morning. A cop was dispatched an hour later.
A drunk reportedly climbed behind the wheel of a car around the same time. A cop was dispatched 70 minutes later.
Welcome to the world of RAPs and the incredible effort to deny that they have an impact on police service.
Frequent CWB readers are probably familiar with the term RAP. It stands for "Radio Assignments Pending," an official term used by the Chicago Police Department and their dispatchers to designate periods of time when police districts have no cars available to handle incoming 911 calls.
When all officers are tied up on assignments, districts go "into a RAP" and new calls for help stack up and wait for an officer to become available.
So far this weekend, our district has been in RAP status at least four times for periods lasting from just over an hour to more than three hours.
They've also been covering the outbreak of arsons that have been occurring all over the northside long before the Department came out with a community alert the other day. And more troubling, a 45-minute wait for an ambulance recently experienced by some traffic accident victims, a Fire Department shortage that doesn't receive enough coverage.
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posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
81 Comments:
It's time for Gary Schenkle to go. He was never the police or a first responder.
I'm sorry, being a Marine doesn't qualify you as being a first responder on a local level. First to respond to a war, I can see that.
Sorry Gary, adios after February.
Impact zones are working!!!
Give local government credit for knowing what they are doing and that they are working for what is best. After all they have access to the big picture which most of us don't, and they are the experts in these things which are beyound our pay grade to comprehend. Just trust them.
It is not just a shortage of police and fire personnel and equipment(and other city service employees too). It is also not prioritizing assignments properly, and following procedures at the expense of common sense. Why are we spending more time doing reports than doing preventive police work? Why are tac teams in uniform? Why aren't we reassigned higher priority assignments as they come out? This won't solve the problem, but we could make this dept. more efficient. Give the citizen forms for simple property damage traffic accidents, let them fill out simple theft repor5s online, etc. save money and time.
Rahm is burning a lot of political and media capital to keep the RAP issue pushed into the background...
Cue: Rahm's henchmen posting on every blog about CPD having "enough" manpower and is just merely not being utilized efficiently... Yet... After three and a half years... Already...
Never you mind what you're seeing at ground level with your own eyes.
Rahm Emanuel IS insane...
I guess that means we deserve no raise, or one that doesn't keep up with inflation. That's what was "negotiated" for us by FLOP.
I AM THE GREAT AND GLORIOUS RAHM!
I increased the police force.
I cut crime.
Ignore the thug behind the curtain.
speaking of arson, a coppers garage on the southside was torched and spraypainted with cpdk. niceee...
Funny thing is Midnight's has a ton of manpower now. Way too many are given the night off.
"The CrimeInBoystown blog has been hammering the crap out of Rahm and Garry..."
Somewhere, the Keesing Bandit is recoiled in horror as to the icky mental image such a statement conjures-up.
That said, kudos to the CBT Blog for continually being a thorn in the side to both the Tiny Dancer and McCirrhosis.
Keep up the good work, your efforts are appreciated.
"The CrimeInBoystown blog has been hammering the crap out of Rahm and Garry..."
Somewhere, the Keesing Bandit is recoiled in horror as to the icky mental image such a statement conjures-up.
That said, kudos to the CBT Blog for continually being a thorn in the side to both the Tiny Dancer and McCirrhosis.
Keep up the good work, your efforts are appreciated.
The CWB Blog is also critical of Tunney. I had a joke there, but I'm not sure it would have gotten past the SCC censors. Use your imagination.
Your VOTES get you the service you deserve.
I Fart: McCirrhosis the best one yet! Can't stop laughing.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Give local government credit for knowing what they are doing and that they are working for what is best. After all they have access to the big picture which most of us don't, and they are the experts in these things which are beyound our pay grade to comprehend. Just trust them.
10/01/2014 12:19:00 AM
Oh, great. It's you again.
Didn't Rahm and Garry promise the people of that area that they wouldn't see any difference in service?
Ask people in the old 019 how often they see the police.
Both 19 & 23 rarely had RAPs in the past
The Mayor and Superintendent are only concerned with the homicide rate, not service to taxpayers. If they only knew. Come out and say that the only ones being killed are the segment of society that chooses the lifestyle that puts them in front of a gun. We all get it.
The CBT blog is really thorough and data-driven. From what I remember someone in their crew has access to public court files (meaning they're there often enough to look them up as it happens.) And for RAPs and other issues - they're using the City's numbers, so there's no distortion there.
Doesn't help when certain f.t.o's on third watch are always holding themselves down on paper for hours on end! I'm sure this is exactly what the city wants p.p.o's to learn huh? Make extra pay to sit around the station and do nothing while the rest of us pick up your slack.
@ 12:12:00, there are no impact zones in 019, there are just a shortage of policemen thanks to merging districts and leaving only a skeleton crew.
A few weeks ago in 009 the zone 13 dispatcher asked if anyone new CPR , because a newborn had stopped breathing. The dispatcher went on to say that fire has no ambulance or truck available at the moment. Thank God that the P.O. new CPR and saved that child. But , what if no police new CPR or weren't available ? That baby would have died , because the powers that be don't want to hire more first responders. They don't want to pay insurance and don't want to pay into the pension. It's embarrassing and sickening. These politicians find nothing wrong with dishing out millions of dollars for bike lanes and parks and other BS , but in the mean time the safety of the public is being jeopardized .
It truly is embarrassing that a city of this size is knowingly jeopardizing the public and putting millions of people at risk . This would be a great expose for a Dave Savini or Chuck Goudie. There's a story for the media pull the tapes of the above incident and listen for yourselves.
Hammering the crap out of?
Just one of the unintended by-products of extreme pleasure.
Handy-wipe anyone?
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
You know where there isn't a shortage of full duty police officers? You guessed it "starbucks" on 35th by police headquarters.
Chicago police department is short man power , down cars , wagons as beat cars , one man cars , it is time for fop to notify the major news and reporters .
It is for the safety of blue shirts in a beat car .
But a domestic over the play station gets a 1A and someone's there immediately in da hood. Priorities.
Hopefully they figure out that Rahm and McBarstool have considered their area a "quiet" area n therefore have stripped their manpower so they can bolster the manpower in the "non-quiet" areas a.k.a. the GHETTO!
This is exactly what happens when two asshats like them simply want to pander and cow tow to certain segments of the city while running rough shod over the quieter, heavy tax paying areas.
I DO NOT believe the 45 min wait for an ambulance for a traffic accident. It doesn't take that long for the CFD to dispatch an Ambo and for it to arrive. The CPD is slow but not for an ambo. I would need to see prof of dispatch time and arrival time
Anonymous said...
It is not just a shortage of police and fire personnel and equipment(and other city service employees too). It is also not prioritizing assignments properly, and following procedures at the expense of common sense. Why are we spending more time doing reports than doing preventive police work? Why are tac teams in uniform? Why aren't we reassigned higher priority assignments as they come out? This won't solve the problem, but we could make this dept. more efficient. Give the citizen forms for simple property damage traffic accidents, let them fill out simple theft repor5s online, etc. save money and time.
10/01/2014 12:35:00 AM
Give drivers traffic crash reports to complete? Are you for real? How many beat officers today cannot complete a tr crash report? Why do you care? Just do your job for 8 hrs then go home.
I put a request in for a new garbage can to replace a broken one and a street light out on July 03.Still waiting!
The reality is that the powers that be don't care about calls for service. As a member of District Patrol, I understand that most calls are bull shit. However, the system gets overwhelmed with bull shit calls and then when something important comes around, every one is tied down on unimportant calls. Of course it does not help that responders stay down on this bs calls for way too long. There are a lot of Mission Teams, Tac Teams, Entertainment Teams etc. which do not care to respond to regular calls. Basically, one of the most basic jobs of the Department is being totally ignored by the higher ups.
I remember in the early 90's working in 014 and we would go into a rap in the summer on a Friday or Saturday night. Now 016 is in a rap EVERY change time and on a Sunday morning at 10am. That's incredible
002 is down 97 police officers since the 002/021 consolidation. Larger areas per beat to cover combined with a 23% reduction in manpower leads to frequent RAP's in 002.
Anonymous said...
It is not just a shortage of police and fire personnel and equipment(and other city service employees too). It is also not prioritizing assignments properly, and following procedures at the expense of common sense. Why are we spending more time doing reports than doing preventive police work? Why are tac teams in uniform? Why aren't we reassigned higher priority assignments as they come out? This won't solve the problem, but we could make this dept. more efficient. Give the citizen forms for simple property damage traffic accidents, let them fill out simple theft repor5s online, etc. save money and time.
10/01/2014 12:35:00 AM
This will never happen unless you want a lot of false reporting.
wow channel 9describes rape offender in Lincoln park as a male black , usually other channels describe as a young male hahrdyhardyharhar
Funny thing is Midnight's has a ton of manpower now. Way too many are given the night off.
You mean time the po's earned and deserve.
Anonymous said...
Funny thing is Midnight's has a ton of manpower now. Way too many are given the night off.
10/01/2014 02:11:00 AM
No, sorry you stroke, we are still short and it is by far the busiest watch to work. So go enjoy your long lunch and both personals while we don't get either on busy weekends.
Maybe the gay and lesbian community will begin to be more pro police then anti police since they see what happens when police manpower is reduced in their community.
Only a certain group of officers are given Time Due in 019 on the 1st Watch.It seems like the same 10 officers or so work the streets Friday to Sunday along with 1 Sgt at the most.no LTs....
you know what alleviates the rap? Guys not riding out jobs for 3 hours. Seriously.
I guess that means we deserve no raise, or one that doesn't keep up with inflation. That's what was "negotiated" for us by FLOP.
10/01/2014 01:03:00 AM
Don't be greedy! They negotiated for new cars also!
Don't you know, as the losers say "it's the best were gonna get".
The CrimeInBoystown blog says it all. They are police haters just like the fine citizens of Englewood!
"Why aren't we reassigned higher priority assignments as they come out?"
So...
After 2B job is dispatched, 25 minutes at Starbucks and 5 minutes travel to job, 5 minutes on scene arguing victim out of doing a report, 40 minutes taking lunch around corner at Panera and coding job 19-P when dispatch asks for status, 5 seconds later called back to scene by supervisor to do case report, 5 minutes to take piss (never wash hands) and travel back to job and get RD #, no computer in car, another 45 minutes travel to station with stop at Apple Store to pick up a new lightning cable, 30 minutes to reset computer password with help desk...
Stop everything, send the 2B job back to the dispatch queue for re-assignment and take the 2A job...
Folks here will love that.
Off topic, but may be of interest:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/reexamining-residency-requirements-for-police-officers/
Enjoy.
There is no reason that 019 1st watch needs to have wagons posing as beat cars on the weekends. They have a lot of manpower on that watch. Something is wrong there.
Firemen that are trained as EMT receive a 7% salary increase that is pensionable why not trained police officers as EMT for an extra 7% .
How about that fop?
Small pay raise , city has money to air condition all public schools , warm in May , June and September , money for free college tuition . Do not forget , sanctuary city , money for education ,health. Housing , police , fire services for 100,000 or so illegal immigrants . Money to pay all employees 15.00 per hour whose employers have city contracts . Did any of this money come from campaign funds or is it on the back of the working class .
While it is true that we are short officers, it is probably not a good idea to give them ammo. We all know the dogs in the districts stay down on BS jobs and the workers have to cover and pull the weight, but do we really want the higher ups on our ass all day clearing us and standing over us rushing us from job to job. Everyone likes a little travel time and time to get settled at their lunch location. Let's be real, how many officers complain to the dispatcher when they get an easy paper job 45 minutes before they go home. Just saying.
A question that hasnt been addressed yet. If this contract gets accepted and we proceed with the watch and furlough bids, since this is now a furlough by watch, are we going to be picking our furlough by the watch we will be on next year or the one we are on now? Currently there is nothing addressing this and I don't recall how it was done back when we tried this before. This seems to be one of the details that the FOP should have foreseen and outlined in the contract. It seems small, but if something isn't spelled out in the contract they leave room for "interpretation" and shenanigans. If they oversee a little detail like this, what else did they miss?
Off topic, but may be of interest:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/reexamining-residency-requirements-for-police-officers/
Enjoy.
Ya Fuk job Harvey looks real nice
Another huge problem is the brand new lockup being closed in the new station at Addison/Halsted. P.O.'s have to wait close to an hour for a wagon to transport the arrestees to Belmont/Western. All paper work is done and officers are forced to sit and wait for a wagon instead of getting back on the street and back in to service. Re-open the lockup on Addison and see how quickly p.o.'s are back on the street after an arrest. On top of that wagons will now be available to answer jobs as well instead of being a glorified taxi service for arrestees.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Only a certain group of officers are given Time Due in 019 on the 1st Watch.It seems like the same 10 officers or so work the streets Friday to Sunday along with 1 Sgt at the most.no LTs....
10/01/2014 02:14:00 PM
How is that you work every weekend if our day off rotate you big stroke. NOw quit crying and go sandbag someone lol.
Why are we spending more time doing reports than doing preventive police work?....
10/01/2014 12:35:00 AM
Because people take 2-3 hours on a traffic crash report that should take less than an hour (no rush either), or 2 hours on a simple case report. And god help everyone else when these same people get an arrest and are in the station for 4-5 hours. This attitude spreads like a cancer, everyone else sees this and slows down.
The majority of preventive police work comprises of coppers trying to prevent getting B.S. arrests, domestics, traffic crashes, battery reports, and other paper jobs.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Funny thing is Midnight's has a ton of manpower now. Way too many are given the night off.
10/01/2014 02:11:00 AM
No, sorry you stroke, we are still short and it is by far the busiest watch to work. So go enjoy your long lunch and both personals while we don't get either on busy weekends.
10/01/2014 01:27:00 PM
Now that's funny. Doubt many would believe that one.
Anonymous said...
It's time for Gary Schenkle to go. He was never the police or a first responder.
I'm sorry, being a Marine doesn't qualify you as being a first responder on a local level. First to respond to a war, I can see that.
Sorry Gary, adios after February.
10/01/2014 12:09:00 AM
Right, because the first responders of the CPD brass have done such a bang up job, the ass kissing professionals that they are.
Oh, by the way, you are full of shit.
good article on residency...
I completely disagree with the article's broad generalization that the requirement rarely sees enforcement; certainly not the case here.
Now, FOP, SUE all the way to the SCOTUS. The requirement is outdated, the studies cited in the article prove no improvement between requirement and diversity, or residency requirement and improved police/community trust, effectiveness, or relationships resulting in better crime prevention or service.
No more residency!!!!!
Courts and towns have done away with it now more than require it.
Anonymous said...
Off topic, but may be of interest:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/reexamining-residency-requirements-for-police-officers/
Enjoy.
10/01/2014 03:09:00 PM
Look at what we had to give up to get new cars! Can you imagine what we would have to give up for residency?
In Chicago, Mayor Rahm Emanuel used similar logic to argue against repealing the city’s residency requirements for police officers and firefighters in 2011. “They are more than police and fire,” he told the Chicago Sun Times at the time. “They are anchors in a neighborhood. They’re the Little League coaches, the hockey coaches, the volunteers at the place of worship. They are anchors — not just in their block, but in their community.” The requirement stayed.
Chicago’s police department is more similar demographically to Chicago than Pittsburgh’s is to Pittsburgh. To get those figures, we compared Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) data from 2006 to 2010 with American Community Survey (ACS) data for the same period, and found that the cities with a residency requirement were less likely to have a police force that demographically resembled the population they police.
To figure out whether police forces with the requirement were more or less demographically similar to their cities, we calculated a dispersion index — a measure of how much the racial and ethnic composition of a city’s force differs from that of the population. We used EEOC data on police officers3 to organize the top 75 cities by police force size into four demographic categories: Hispanic, non-Hispanic white, non-Hispanic black and non-Hispanic Asian. Then we used the ACS data to organize the overall population of these cities into those same four demographic groups.4 We were then able to construct an overall racial dispersion “score,” as the sum of the absolute deviations between the percentage of police and the percentage of the city’s population for that demographic group.5 Jersey City, New Jersey, and Newark, New Jersey, have the largest dispersion scores; while Brownsville, Texas, and Los Angeles have the lowest.6
What we found was that police departments with a residency requirement had consistently higher dispersion scores than those without. In other words, these police forces were less demographically similar to their cities.7
The following chart shows the top 75 cities by police force size and their dispersion scores. Cities with residency requirements are highlighted.8
Save cooter
near north crier said...
"Why aren't we reassigned higher priority assignments as they come out?"
So...
After 2B job is dispatched, 25 minutes at Starbucks and 5 minutes travel to job, 5 minutes on scene arguing victim out of doing a report, 40 minutes taking lunch around corner at Panera and coding job 19-P when dispatch asks for status, 5 seconds later called back to scene by supervisor to do case report, 5 minutes to take piss (never wash hands) and travel back to job and get RD #, no computer in car, another 45 minutes travel to station with stop at Apple Store to pick up a new lightning cable, 30 minutes to reset computer password with help desk...
Stop everything, send the 2B job back to the dispatch queue for re-assignment and take the 2A job...
Folks here will love that.
Freaking hilliaious.
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For the dumbasses who say we are not a union, I think you are wrong---- we are a union! Our inability to strike does not preclude us from being called a union. Now go get your shine box-FNG!
You know where there isn't a shortage of full duty police officers? You guessed it "starbucks" on 35th by police headquarters
Shut the F**k up already. Is this really such a priority for you. You post this every chance you get. Is this really the biggest problem you see with department.. What do you have? -5 years
COME ON!!! Hey finger pointers the reason for raps and possible CFD wait times is due to the fact that for some reason the residents of this place can't live their lives with out some type of parental guidance. Meaning US or CFD has to handle things that 10 years ago people handled for themselves. Now some nonsense about how the local government NEEDS to have a plan in place for civilians when the deal goes down here... Folks, being sheep would be an upgrade! Good luck GODS speed.
Hey 02:31pm, GFY, CRIME IN BOYSTOWN/WRIGLEYVILLE are not cophaters, the community is solidly behind CPD and support their efforts regardless of what shithead 9.5 and McCirrhosis do to hamstring them. And dont you fucking dare compare us to the govt cheese rats in Englewood in our attitude towards law enforcement. We are hardworking taxpaying law abiding citizens who want nothing more than to live our lives in safety and security and aid our police force in any way we can towards that end. So please, whoever you are, feel free to go and take a flying fuck at a running buzzsaw, dickfor.
Blogger I Fart In Your General Direction said...
"The CrimeInBoystown blog has been hammering the crap out of Rahm and Garry..."
Somewhere, the Keesing Bandit is recoiled in horror as to the icky mental image such a statement conjures-up.
That said, kudos to the CBT Blog for continually being a thorn in the side to both the Tiny Dancer and McCirrhosis.
Keep up the good work, your efforts are appreciated.
10/01/2014 02:15:00 AM
Thank you for the support. It goes a long way.
Greatly appreciate the recognition, too, SCC. Thank you.
dickfor?
what's a dickfor?
lol
Lets get real here for a minute.
Not everyone in Boystown is pro-police
The more mature and conservative residents of the area are, just as mature and conservative residents of every area are. They have more invested in the area and more to lose.
The majority of residents in the area have grown to want enforcement imposed on non-residents,but they do not want themselves or their businesses policed.
There are tons of drugs in the area and the clubs. The only difference is there is no drive by shootings, but the drugs are still tearing the health of that area up.
You really can't have it both ways, its either total enforcement or lack of enfrocement.
I Fart In Your General Direction said...
"The CrimeInBoystown blog has been hammering the crap out of Rahm and Garry..."
Somewhere, the Keesing Bandit is recoiled in horror as to the icky mental image such a statement conjures-up.
That said, kudos to the CBT Blog for continually being a thorn in the side to both the Tiny Dancer and McCirrhosis.
Keep up the good work, your efforts are appreciated.
10/01/2014 02:15:00 AM
You obviously don't read it regularly. It's basically a bunch of whinney asses with a hard on for the police and Tunney. The BS they spew about the police demonstrates their hatred for police officers.
A few weeks ago there was a fairly serious car crash in front of my house.The driver walked away w/ scratches ,but his vehicle was totaled.Fire Dept. arrived and stated" (after 1/2 hr into incident) there has been no Police assigned to the accident . Fire left the scene, tow truck arrived and hauled car, the driver disappeared and I never saw a Police Vehicle!
There is no reason that 019 1st watch needs to have wagons posing as beat cars on the weekends. They have a lot of manpower on that watch. Something is wrong there.
Because they now have a majority of the manpower, the 2 absentee Lts. (who also take a lot of time off) give 12-15 people off each weekend night.
Anonymous said..
You obviously don't read it regularly. It's basically a bunch of whinney asses with a hard on for the police and Tunney. The BS they spew about the police demonstrates their hatred for police officers.
10/02/2014 03:00:00 AM
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Thanks for stopping by, alderman.
Anonymous said...
Why are we spending more time doing reports than doing preventive police work?....
10/01/2014 12:35:00 AM
Because people take 2-3 hours on a traffic crash report that should take less than an hour (no rush either), or 2 hours on a simple case report. And god help everyone else when these same people get an arrest and are in the station for 4-5 hours. This attitude spreads like a cancer, everyone else sees this and slows down.
The majority of preventive police work comprises of coppers trying to prevent getting B.S. arrests, domestics, traffic crashes, battery reports, and other paper jobs.
10/01/2014 05:17:00 PM
You are 100% correct!!!!
Because people take 2-3 hours on a traffic crash report that should take less than an hour (no rush either), or 2 hours on a simple case report. And god help everyone else when these same people get an arrest and are in the station for 4-5 hours. This attitude spreads like a cancer, everyone else sees this and slows down.
The majority of preventive police work comprises of coppers trying to prevent getting B.S. arrests, domestics, traffic crashes, battery reports, and other paper jobs.
10/01/2014 05:17:00 PM
Sounds like about 2% worth of work to me. You get what you pay for.
Hey 02:31pm, GFY, CRIME IN BOYSTOWN/WRIGLEYVILLE are not cophaters, the community is solidly behind CPD and support their efforts regardless of what shithead 9.5 and McCirrhosis do to hamstring them. And dont you fucking dare compare us to the govt cheese rats in Englewood in our attitude towards law enforcement. We are hardworking taxpaying law abiding citizens who want nothing more than to live our lives in safety and security and aid our police force in any way we can towards that end. So please, whoever you are, feel free to go and take a flying fuck at a running buzzsaw, dickfor.
10/01/2014 10:45:00 PM
Apparently you don't read the comment section! AssHat!
Anonymous said...
A question that hasnt been addressed yet. If this contract gets accepted and we proceed with the watch and furlough bids, since this is now a furlough by watch, are we going to be picking our furlough by the watch we will be on next year or the one we are on now? Currently there is nothing addressing this and I don't recall how it was done back when we tried this before. This seems to be one of the details that the FOP should have foreseen and outlined in the contract. It seems small, but if something isn't spelled out in the contract they leave room for "interpretation" and shenanigans. If they oversee a little detail like this, what else did they miss?
10/01/2014 04:47:00 PM
Real simple. You pick watches first, then you pick furloughs.
Duh!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
A question that hasnt been addressed yet. If this contract gets accepted and we proceed with the watch and furlough bids, since this is now a furlough by watch, are we going to be picking our furlough by the watch we will be on next year or the one we are on now? Currently there is nothing addressing this and I don't recall how it was done back when we tried this before. This seems to be one of the details that the FOP should have foreseen and outlined in the contract. It seems small, but if something isn't spelled out in the contract they leave room for "interpretation" and shenanigans. If they oversee a little detail like this, what else did they miss?
10/01/2014 04:47:00 PM
Real simple. You pick watches first, then you pick furloughs.
Duh!
10/02/2014 03:53:00 PM
Duh, that's the logical way of doing it, but that's now how it was done. Maybe they'll get it right this time around, if that poor excuse for a 'contract' passes.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
A question that hasnt been addressed yet. If this contract gets accepted and we proceed with the watch and furlough bids, since this is now a furlough by watch, are we going to be picking our furlough by the watch we will be on next year or the one we are on now? Currently there is nothing addressing this and I don't recall how it was done back when we tried this before. This seems to be one of the details that the FOP should have foreseen and outlined in the contract. It seems small, but if something isn't spelled out in the contract they leave room for "interpretation" and shenanigans. If they oversee a little detail like this, what else did they miss?
10/01/2014 04:47:00 PM
Real simple. You pick watches first, then you pick furloughs.
Duh!
10/02/2014 03:53:00 PM
We will only be picking furl by watch if the contract gets ratified and city council approves it by the time we pick furloughs. It's a long shot because the city council doesn't do a whole lot very fast. And yes, if it happens we pick watch first and then we pick furl by the watch we will be on for 2015.
Real simple. You pick watches first, then you pick furloughs.
Duh!
10/02/2014 03:53:00 PM
Lol.. you've completely missed the point, and punctuated your ignorance with an insulting "duh!".
The contract reads that it will be done as it has been in the past. Which past are they referring to? The past attempt at this (which appearantly was not as you suggested) or this past year? If it isn't spelled out somewhere then there is no telling how they will do it. Just because something seems logical it doesn't mean that they will do it that way.
I know how to get some manpower back!!!! Just follow some of the folks that abuse the medical. Then follow some of the questionable folks on disability, who by the way can work another job, just at it is not in law enforcement, It is a sweet deal for some abusers, The pension board should hire investigators to do this job, I'm not saying to fuck with the obvious, just the bad folks. It is effecting our money, that is how I look at it. Bring them back to work in light duty spots, free up the full duty do nothings that work inside, who are afraid of the streets.
I'm retired Milwaukee PD. We did the same thing in the 80s. Stack calls and dispatch squads hours later. I was a sergeant at the time and every night lost at least two cars to busier districts to take the backlog calls. I heard squads sent to calls at 3:30am that had come in at 6pm the night before. Mean while our district was short staffed. Smoke and mirrors, the game never changes.
We will only be picking furl by watch if the contract gets ratified and city council approves it by the time we pick furloughs. It's a long shot because the city council doesn't do a whole lot very fast. And yes, if it happens we pick watch first and then we pick furl by the watch we will be on for 2015.
10/02/2014 07:41:00 PM
FOP gets results around Oct 16th Will be ratified in middle of November by the city. Question is does that give CPD time to pick furloughs
I still love how you guys parked that bus with CPD markings in front of Roscoe's that one time. I think I'm going to buy a frame for the picture of it I downloaded. You need to do that more often. Those people need to learn to handle their own on that strip.
Signed, GWM
That image gave the Keesing Bandit the vapors.
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