How to Spin the Data
HeyJackass.com shows everyone how it's done:
- Hey SCC - Since the honor students wouldn't stop shooting on a school night, it took a little longer than usual to compile the final numbers.
Weekend: 8 killed (5 shot, 3 stabbed), 44 wounded
Last year: 1 killed, 15 wounded
September now stands at 42 killed and 197 wounded. Last September tallied 42 killed (inc 2 PO involved) and 154 wounded.
Expect the month end press release to focus on year to date homicide numbers and to ignore September and the increase in shootings.
Illustrating Chicago Crime, Murder and Mayhem at heyjackass.com
That's quite an increase over last year's same timeframe - 800% in killings and nearly 300% in maimings. And there's still a full 24 hours to go in September and Englewood has been on fire since Friday. CompStat is going to be amusing this week.
Labels: crime
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
44 Comments:
Compstat postponed again. Maybe he can't keep a straight face spewing his b.s. anymore.
So the natives got a little stabby and shooty over the weekend?
Look at the bright side, the EMTS and Doctors saved 30% more people this year than last.
SCC, this is off topic..... On Friday you had a post entitled " Reitirees Sue". I think it is important to note Rahm's defense in screwing over the retirees. The following is from the Slum Times....
Mayor Rahm Emanuel on Tuesday defended his decision to save $27 million in 2015 by raising monthly health-insurance premiums by an average of 40 percent for 25,000 city retirees — even after a precedent-setting Illinois Supreme Court ruling that could tip the scales against the city.
“I said early on that we were gonna make the hard decisions which brought our structural deficit down by half, so that we can make critical investments, which is what we’re doing today,” Emanuel said after unveiling a plan to end homelessness among veterans by 2015.
“If we’re willing to make the hard decisions — not defer them, not deny them and not delay them but make the tough decisions — we’ll be able to actually then start to make some of the investments that we have, for a long period of time, put off. This is one of those examples. The other is … to make sure that every 4-year-old who lives at poverty will have pre-K education because it will complement the universal kindergarten we also did.”
So this self righteous prick (Rahm) thinks it is o.k. to charge retirees and additional 40% for their health insurance and in the same breath defend it by putting programs in place for " less fortunate"others. Talk about " in your face redistribution of wealth". The arrogant little prick can close police districts, close 50+ schools! but he won't reduce the number of aldermen....which could EAISLY be cut in half. That would be a savings of over 25 million in slush fund money alone. And i bet you there is hardly a peep out of taxpayers if he were to do it.
I cannot wait for 2016.....no more Barak Hussein and hopefully no more Rahm #onetermmayor
Nope.....no Compstat this week.
Heyjackass -- time to add a "decapitations" category to the site...
Chalkie is racking up some mad overtime this weekend.
Go Chalkie.. It's your birthday !!
011 just provided 2 in the last 12 hours.
011 with two homicides last night
Rahm and McNutty's spinners will massage and mold the facts and come up with a different opinion.
Compstat cancelled this week.
Englewood on fire? I thought I smelled something.
this city, county, state and possibly country is in its death thros...
Just as the number of murders is irrelevant (how do the police have anything to do with whether you live or die once shot?), so is the number of victims. The number that really matters is SHOOTING INCIDENTS. Are these up or down?
Add TWO more homicides in 011 last night. One shot in the head 2x and a separate incident where one was shot in the chest 2x. Both dead.
Even with all the VRE and VRI money, Rahm and Garry can't buy their way out of this one
FYI: No more free coffee at McDonald's, big line of HQ personnel aka (full duty police officers)at starbucks on 35th. 2 to 3 cups aday at 35/45 min to walk there,wait in line,walk back and Voila!lunch time or a quick workout and if you smoke,at least 4,20 min breaks.
I know this is a minor story and it hasn't been covered by the press, but do you know anything about this piece on GusSaveLives dot com - "ILLINOIS CONCEALED CARRY WORKS: Attempted carjacking thwarted in Chi-town"
SCC, I know this slightly OT, but I just wanted to reiterate a challenge which you often bring forth to the media types that visit this blog.
No that anytime of the year in Chicago isn't a fitting time to focus on gun violence, but the last few weekends have been extra bloody, so with that in my mind, I want to issue a challenge to the media to take a long hard look at what some of the judges at 26th St. have been ruling on as far as UUW offenders and the effects it has after these offenders are released.
Here is just a small sample of what our men and women are dealing with all to often at that cesspool of justice known as 26th and California.
Last week, my partner and I were in the 2nd floor courtroom, of a judge, I will leave out his name, to testify against a UUW offender who we arrested this past year in the Wentworth Gardens Housing Complex.
Without getting into too much detail, the offender was among a larger group of known gang members located on the premises who were blatantly consuming alcohol as we arrived. One the individuals, who would soon become the offender, was known to us because we had previously locked him up in 2008 for UUW in the same exact location where we observed him on that day.
On the most recent encounter, and after establishing probable cause(i.e. bulge, previous contact with offender, other gang members, violent housing project) to stop and pat him down we found him in possession of another large handgun.
After giving our testimony and not having any real impeachable aspects of our testimony, the judge ruled that we didn't have enough to stop and conduct the patdown based on how long ago we had arrested him in the past for the first fucking UUW on the same fucking location as he sat among a group of known gang members illegally drinking!!
Now, I am by no means looking for a pat on the back, because this is mine and our job, and no I am not looking for any sympathy because all working coppers lose cases like this on a daily basis at the shithole 26th and Cal, but what I am looking for is for someone to hold these judges accountable to some extent for what occurs after these UUW offender are released.
In this case, this past week in the very same Wentworth Gardens Complex there has been 2 shootings and 2 additional UUW arrests, but these judges just put these same offenders right back into the game and we really have to wonder why this violence will never stop??
I am truly sorry for the rant, but like I said before, I challenge any media member with any fortitude like Peter Nickeas or Chicago Magazine to take a real good luck at some of these truly dangerous and questionable rulings these judges are making day in and day out on UUW offenders and what effects it really is having on our violence here in the city. Its right there at your fingertips, take a look.
slightly OT
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/29/chicago-concealed-carry-gun-permit-law-disarms-poo/?page=2
Save $5,000,000 eliminate ate 25 alderman
Cps students being shot
Just think what the police department will be in the future cps students receive preferential selection for every future police recruit class .
How can that be legal , where is fop to challenge that ?
You see when there's a decrease in the projected increase it's a win.....go Gerry compost
rumor has it Rahm was visiting area hospitals this weekend begging doctors to save as many gunshot victims as possible, promising free public transportation vouchers to doctors and ER staff
Anonymous said...
"Look at the bright side, the EMTS and Doctors saved 30% more people this year than last."
9/30/2014 12:43:00 AM
Sheeeiiit!
Give the man a GOOD cigar and a three finger of top shelf!
THIS is a constant intentionally left out of the "crime is down" calculation!
Rahm and McRunningOutOfTime keep touting "fewer homicides therefore crime is down" when several dozen people a week are showing up at e/rs with mystery missiles in them...
Thus:
Chicago crime statistic tabulation?
Constants (actual numbers of crimes reported) rubbed against bullshit variables (The way OEMC handles business + intentional tying up/diversion of Police resources etc.) to yield a bullshit product. (Delayed Police response, Rahm & McMooky redefining what "crime" and "Police Response" actually mean.)
The common English speaking/understanding layman doesn't have a prayer here.
I love how McCarty sends in the inspectors into the first district to keep fucking with cooter because he didn't shake his hand. What a pussy
(OT) great job pathetic Obama crew now we have Ebola here!
http://video.foxnews.com/v/2554140788001/cdc-briefing-on-ebola-case-in-dallas-texas/#sp=watch-live
Maybe just maybe ban all flights into and out of the areas full of this deadly disease! Boys and girls be careful!
Secret Service has a leader like us.
Ok, so with all the training, equipment, k9's and manpower at the white house. Why is it they cant stop a single intruder with a knife?
What they need is a leader like 1020. He will get the job done. Or Talk the guy to death.
OT rumor from a dude I know at revenue:
The gist of the rumor is that Finance is going to be starting up a new shift that will swing Tuesday's thru Saturday's around the beginning of next year.
Watch out for them and watch how you park!
(OT) random thought Ebola a deadly disease is discovered and is positive in Texas:
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/09/30/cdc-confirms-first-case-ebola-in-us/
So now I'm rethinking my airport bid, what could be one of the first places to receive infected people? Correct aircraft landing in United States airports. This is scary plus all the ilegals spreading every type of disease everywhere.
The judge ruled that we didn't have enough to stop and conduct the patdown based on how long ago we had arrested him in the past for the first fucking UUW on the same fucking location as he sat among a group of known gang members illegally drinking!!
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Well, I agree with the judge. U have no reasonable suspicion to pat dude down. Your hunch is not reasonable suspicion. He wasnt drinking. A violent housing project as you say? Last time I checked we cant search everyone in a violent housing project. Being among gang members isnt a crime or enough to justify patdown. And that i patted him down for safety is nonsense also for those thinking it. You can search those drinking illegally. So here is my advice, learn the law. Academy has many good handouts on topic you just addressed. Call down there and have them mail it to you thru department mail.
Ok Wentworth gardens uuw officer. Why didn't you arrest him for dopw? Then your custodial search revealed the firearm. Not second guessing. Just suggesting for next time.
The mass ignorance of the local news people has bled into this department. It is important for cops to know this.
The city does not count "homicides," which include some fatal traffic accidents, some industrial accidents, self defense cases, and all fatal police involved shootings,
A homicide is a death caused by the actions of another person. A homicide is NOT a crime.
Crimes that involve a homicide are Reckless Homicide (Traffic), manslaughter (negligent killings), and murder (1st and 2nd degree).
Justifiable homicides are not crimes.
Of all the crimes involving homicide, the city counts 1st Degree Murders, which includes intentional (premeditated), knowing (actions likely to cause death), and felony murders (participation in a violent felony resulting in any death).
Chicago had about 400 MURDERS in 2013. Chicago had more than a thousand homicides.
When the police shoot a criminal, it is not a murder.
9/30/2014 07:24:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just as the number of murders is irrelevant (how do the police have anything to do with whether you live or die once shot?), so is the number of victims. The number that really matters is SHOOTING INCIDENTS. Are these up or down?
9/30/2014 07:32:00 AM
Way, way up.
To the officer that had the UUW go bad,
I don't mean this as a criticism, but you threw around some definitions improperly and when you are in front of judges who are inclined to let criminals go free, they will use terminology to get it done.
The bulge is not probable cause. It may be reasonable suspicion to do a pat down, but you are going to need other elements. Running away from you is a good element for reasonable suspicion, but even that is not probable cause.
Being a known gang member, a known felon, or a prior arrestee of yours, is really nothing except for charging after finding the gun. It is not a legal reason to conduct a pat down. In fact, by mentioning this you hurt your case because you look like your out to get him.
Being in a dangerous area or an area known for whatever is terminology used in lots of Supreme Court opinions, but it doesn't mean squat in Cook County.
You saw this person drinking on the public way. You arrested him. A search incident to that arrest revealed a gun. He was then charged.
When dealing with legal reasons for a search, the clearest and shortest answers are always the best.
Stay safe.
Anonymous said...
Secret Service has a leader like us.
Ok, so with all the training, equipment, k9's and manpower at the white house. Why is it they cant stop a single intruder with a knife?
What they need is a leader like 1020. He will get the job done. Or Talk the guy to death.
9/30/2014 05:21:00 PM
Director of Secret Service was today talking about "appropriate force" being used in the White House Home Invasion incident. Who among us wouldn't smoke some dude barging into our own homes?
But The White House? Home of POTUS? With all the threats and attacks and dangers that are all around now? I would expect that guy to have a half dozen 5.56 rounds in his breadbasket before he ever gets within 50 yards of the front door.
Appropriate force for The White House would be a volley of rifle fire followed by General Quarters, full alert of all police and military in DC and maybe all military forces taken to DEFCON 3.
But a lone Secret Service agent being knocked down at the door? She was armed, no? Did shithead get her weapon? Then a second agent tackles the guy? That is it? Just tackles the guy?
I would be screaming at the agent like D.I. Hartmann, "Why are you not stomping that puke's guts out?"
Deadly force was not only authorized but mandatory in that situation.
(OT) this is a columbo type mystery who did the shooting? Was clout involved?
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/09/29/2-investigators-family-questions-investigation-into-near-fatal-shooting-with-cops-gun/
Really feel sorry for the family of this kid, guns and alcohol don't mix!
To 7:20pm . As having authored the original thread, I was just wondering if you even read it through or were you to caught up in being a condescending asshole?? I said nothing about reasonable suspicion for the protective pat down, I said Probable cause which I briefly described existed because I felt was there was enough for a protective patdown due to a noticeable bulge on an offender who I had previously arrested for a UUW in an area known for weapon recoveries and gang violence and you agree with the judge?? Who's side are you on clown?? I was Simply posting on the blog to show a little frustration in our fucked up system and I get chastised by you to get law handouts from the academy?? Go pound sand asshat.
Build walls around Englewood and we can film a new show, "Escape from Chicago". McCarthy can play Snake Plisken.
Off topic.
Just drove past a Gypsi house on Harlem, south of Irving Park.
Passed a milkshake through my nose when I saw the house sporting an ADT Alarm sign on the front porch!
How ironic, them not wanting someone to steal the shit they already stold.
Wonder if ADT gave the an complimentary install for providing a thousand customers each year.
Question - 007 has nearly enough copper' on street to put 3 copper' on a block driving back and forth down the street. How is it that the shooting still occur. Does 007 tac do anything or just stay down on a rock pinch for 4 hours ?
Why does 10 tac copper' hang arounf a murder scene with their hands in their pocket's ? Maybe to be on the news and brag. Plus another 10 patrol huys doing the same.
I thought Leo was a real leader.
To 7:20pm . As having authored the original thread, I was just wondering if you even read it through or were you to caught up in being a condescending asshole?? I said nothing about reasonable suspicion for the protective pat down, I said Probable cause which I briefly described existed because I felt was there was enough for a protective patdown due to a noticeable bulge on an offender who I had previously arrested for a UUW in an area known for weapon recoveries and gang violence and you agree with the judge?? Who's side are you on clown?? I was Simply posting on the blog to show a little frustration in our fucked up system and I get chastised by you to get law handouts from the academy?? Go pound sand asshat.
9/30/2014 11:23:00 PM
As a citizen convicted of UUW,fucked by a Judge and S.A. not the police, I will be starting a blog on Judge's who suck ! Hope you guys can fill it up..
Same offender, for carrying a gun, and the one poster says patting him down for safety is nonsense.... I don't know then, maybe I also need those academy handouts because that gangbanger would be getting a pat down from me.
Leo what are you doing NOTHING all bullshit !
The cop with the UUW is confused.
Probable Cause exists AFTER recovering the gun. Then the offender is arrested for UUW. When there is probable cause, the offender is charged with a crime.
Reasonable suspicion allows an officer to stop a suspect. The fact that the subject is a felon in the projects with a bulge IS NOT reasonable suspicion to conduct a patdown here in a Cook County court.
If you don't get this right, you are going to lose a lot of cases in the future.
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