Craziness in 011
The hits just keep on coming. Last
year, they get a nut-job who (allegedly) likes to stick his pistol in
peoples (and folks) mouths while threatening them with a Taser to the
balls....and he's dumb enough not to clean the DNA off his gun. He
brings along an XO whose entire career is littered with the wreckage of
Districts and Units, buried in a blizzard of PAR forms of people leaving
his crap-tacular management style. A sergeant attempts to inject some
humor into the situation and manages to catch a three day suspension.
Now this:
Now this:
- What's up with the XO in 011 screaming at people Saturday night?
And this:
- 4 officers on second watch in 011 were officially counseled today by their sgts for NOT taking lunch. None of the 4 put in OT slips for not taking their lunch. The order for the official, documented counseling sessions came from none other than XO Lemmer. This is NOT a joke. It actually happened. God save 011.
There's an order mandating lunches be taken? That's a first.
And an answer to the initial question:
And an answer to the initial question:
- Rules and Regulations pertaining to professionalism, conduct and
demeanor pertain to all sworn members of this department. General Orders
too...
Document document document... This isn't supervision, it's creating a hostile and oppressive work environment in the guise of being a so called supervisor. The affected officers should be strong, pool their resources and retain joint counsel outside of FOP.
[...] Yelling at and demeaning subordinates indicates a crisis in supervisory confidence and a dangerous loss of discipline and self control.
it is unfortunate that the top of the supervisory echelon in 011 is only seeking to punish and inconvenience the rank and file to protect their unearned positions at any and all costs.
This certainly sounds like a
hostile workplace environment lawsuit waiting to happen. We're pretty
sure that you aren't allowed to yell, belittle, harass subordinates.
There are rules of professional conduct and all that. Certainly a
Commander who used to work in IAD and run illegal First Amendment
investigations is aware of that?
But don't cry too hard for 011 - they're fighting back. We got this from a reader:
But don't cry too hard for 011 - they're fighting back. We got this from a reader:
This statue appeared outside the XO's office window shortly before the snow flew. It's the close-up that is amusing:
No word if anyone caught discipline for this, but when the statue was removed, these appeared all over the District:
Combine
that with the rumored EEOC beef that has already been filed against the
XO and you've got an issue that maybe McCarthy ought to address before
taxpayers end up on the hook for some serious money.
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141 Comments:
Any white shirt who likes to get loud should be pulled to the side.
Let them know you aint no bitch!
or keep on being treated like a sissy.
TOO much facebook kids don't know how to face reality and put a clouted in check.
Maybe he's just demonstratiing how to be an "effective supervisor"? Right Lt Maciejewski? Magic is now a screaming idiot in 008. I guess he didn't get it all out in Mass Transit.
You have to admit it....there are some really funny motherfuckers on this job. Most literally, I laughed out loud when I looked at the close up of that statue. And I rather enjoy the word "crap-tacular". Thanks for the laughs 011 Rangers and SCC.
The boss is the boss even when he/she is wrong. Do what the boss says, salute and say aye aye sir, then complain after you have followed orders. Follow the rules and the regulations to the letter and you will be fine. I learned this in the USMC, and it also applies to the CPD.
it is all related to the guy project innocence got off... he got paid $25 million from city for wrongfull conviction. Instead of chilling, on the beach in the carriabian with that cash, he is building an army of shitheads in 11, 25, 16, 17.
So now the pissing contest has started.
Downtown will consider the coppers and supervisors a bunch of malcontents based on antics of the statute and the award. Better to let the bosses look like fools and play it straight and document than to lower selves to same level.
Better brush up on the Orders if you really want to play the game well.
Mccarthy won't do a damm thing. Bosses stick together no matter what. That's why blue shirts don't trust them. It's blue against white and don't ever think otherwise. 35th has killed that district. If he cared about the troops he would not keep putting terrible bosses in 011. It's sad what happeneed to that place.
I think the statue is modeled after departed Sgt Z walking around in the buff with his beret and purple sash in the men's locker room. Dubs yo!
This man ruined the morale for years in 19 before he left . Thank the heavens he's gone but really pity anyone who has to work for him, wouldn't even want my enemies to have to report to him everyday. Does he still require the schedule to be faxed to him at home on his RDO's? Ask anyone who was a PO or Sergeant & they will all say the same exact thing, and it ain't good. He was the worst thing that happened to our district, treating grown men with 25+ seniority as little boys. Ask the dozens upon dozens who left the district because of him, and those who even retired earlier than expected. He's definitely on my short list of the 5 worst bosses on the job. He will never change, and never look at himself in the mirror and realize that people have *zero* respect for him. Wait for the day of his retirement cause there will be less than a handful of party attendees at the bar with him. The real celebration will occur on two occasions, the first when he submits his retirement PAR form and then second, the following day after his retirement.
What might stop this is if all the 2 year wonders we have would stop bringing them what they want........contact card strike! These new guys haven't caught on yet. If you stop producing they'll get the hint! He is taking everything from us and you tards just keep running and gunning. STOP! You can not get written up for not bringing activity in. Take one for the team....look at the bigger picture. Together we rise or together we fall!!
We in 011 need to come together and say enough is enough. We lead the city in arrests and the "almighty" contact cards, but the so called leaders shit on us every chance they get. We need a serious case of the blue flu in 011, but it won't happen with all these 2 year wonders doing their b.s. tvb arrests and contact carding every mope "loitering". The bosses know we won't come together, and that we'll keep producing so they look good at compstat. Keep working hard for them wonders, and thanks for ruining this once great district
Years ago, a cop would never file a lawsuit against the department, for any reason. If a cop did file a lawsuit, that cop was labeled for life as a rat, snitch, crybaby, trouble maker, etc.
Disputes were handled differently back then, maybe in a bar, maybe in the parking lot, maybe in the office. It usually involved lots of cursing, yelling, spitting, punching, etc. Afterward the dispute was over and resolved, and it didn't cost the city taxpayers a dime.
Those were the days...when supervisors were mature adults and cops were mature adults....when adults became cops because they really wanted to be cops, when adults became cops because they got home from the war. Those were the days...before required college educations, before meritorious promotions, before punks came on the job for the high salary/benefits and just to have the city pay for their college degree while they work a desk job. Ahh...those were the days.
Today, every cop is looking for a reason to file a lawsuit against the department as a means of getting promoted or getting a cash windfall. Don't get me wrong, these clowns supervising the department today give every cop countless reasons to file a lawsuit. Its just amazing to see how commonplace it is today for cops to file not just one, but multiple lawsuits against the department.
My question is - when will the city hold the individual clown supervisor responsible for their actions that caused the cop to file a lawsuit against the city? Supervisors receive the most training in how not to harass and how not to discriminate and how to be an effective supervisor, and so forth. Therefore, supervisors are aware of what they can and cannot do, so when they do something wrong to a cop who files a lawsuit that results in an award of city taxpayers money - why won't the department make that clown supervisor accountable? The monetary award should be paid by the supervisor and not the taxpayers.
Yea, I know the answer to my question. Just wanted to vent in the wee hours or a.m. God bless.
God help us. A good place to work has gone to shit. Thank you CPD.
This man or lack of a man is just a horrible horrible human. He has been harassing everyone. Lacks social skills. Way to ruin a district while being a shitty neighborhood it' still was a great place to work. Fuck him!!!!!! He has harnessed 1st watch more than any other watch. He has been pulled the GPS on all the cars and making all the 1st watch cars to be moving all night. If you stop more than 30 minutes than you might get in trouble. I have no problem with getting on the ass of the dogs who go straight from roll call to the hole. But 1st watch has good people with great bosses and this asshole of a captain has to have a power trip and fuck with them. 011 we have to stick together. If that asshole calls you out of your name or harasses you please report it. This person is straight fucking crazy.
011 coppers alow this alleged xo stepon them. everyone file a law suit. Cost shit to file and each person' files alone. represent yourself. Read the law folks. File a EEOC beef at headquarters. Hit the dept with a ton of legal papers and they will move this fool.
Document everything this fool says and have witnesses.
You folks will be stroking out with this nuts screwing your health up.
When he finds out you filed, and he threatens you, call IAD and get a number....
My heart goes out to you bucks.
That asshole drucnk does not care but the hall does not kike getting hit with paper to file suit, The more that file the better. If you left there, file...two year statue of limitation.
Bless you all.
Wow! Thanks for the early morning laugh. I nearly pissed right through my "Depends"!
A picture is worth a thousand words?
Indeed!
A good commander would put an asshole like that in check, not a commander who should be a cleaning lady somewhere.
Keystone cops????
Although I really do appreciate the humor involved I am troubled by the whining youth of today. Any type of quantifying a job you get paid pretty well for and they yell "quota". Crying because "I got yelled at". I've never witnessed a PO doing their job getting yelled at. Bitching because the supervisors are doing their job by checking to see if you are doing yours. And the always popular "hostile work environment", I am getting a lawyer and sue.
I am so sick of the do nothings on the Department. What makes it worse is that they stand out so well against the heroes that they work with. The men and women that quietly do their job without asking for anything more than their paycheck. The workers that know that they are a part of a whole. A part of a thin blue line that keeps this city safe.
Are some bosses horrible? Sure are. Are some over their heads? Yep. Are some Mayors and Superintendents slaves to the politically correct progressive machine. You betcha. Act like men, not spoiled children - the Everybody Gets a Trophy Generation.
Lemmer is a straight up jagoff. Bad things need to happen to an asshole like him. Let's hope karma comes around full circle and soon for XO Buscemi.
Are there any adults that work in 011?
All I have to say is what a bunch of pansies we have in 011 now a days. Let's see the truth behind this, these POs are absent from the time they leave roll call til check off and the only real way to find out where they are is to make them go down on lunch...still with me? What's with the lawsuits? Seriously, did Capt hurt your feelings? Ah poor baby! Want me to hold you and make you feel better? Grow the F up and be the police! I have never seen such bullshit outta so called hard ass coppers in the so called wild wild west. you wanna be the soft police go somewhere else! No where else in the U.S. could coppers get away with doing as little as these people and still feel like they are being asked to do too much. Wow!
It's a nice looking statue, I wouldn't mind having that in my yard minus the penis thing on it, whatever that is.
Hey...hey...hey you....One and done Dean, whatr are you doing about this atrocity? Oh yeah....Nothing! You and your Nolanesc style of operating this bargaing order ( non union) I can't rock the boat because mayor 9.5 so t promote my kid. Yeah I'm talking to you Mr. Everybody is going to 10 hour schedules with out discussing anything with the people who make up the back bone of this department.......your answer of 1. Nothing is for sure ...or 2. I actually haven't heard that rumor..... or 3. Don't believe anything you read on the that (SCC) blog is not holding up.
Ten hour shifts by summers end? Get a phone book....stand on it and explain what's happening. Address it before we address you sir.
Dyla Hata
Enough already. 011 has seen worst and yes, this too shall pass. These are just a "few" of the same drama starters that are stirring the pot. No one is suing anyone, no one is considering 011 a "hostile work environment" it's all blown out of proportion and dramatized. 011 is just catching up to the 99% of all other districts that are strict with uniforms, set people taking days off, following rules for once. The cry babies here just aren't used to "change".
Will the Keesing Bandit have something to say about this?
It seems that whenever his FTO girlfriend has VRI in 011 he stays late in the district .
Now THATS FUNNY...Ya got to LOVE Cop Humor...............
You need everyone to join in.. Not 3 guys complaining and dropping paper. Too many weak sell outs that complain on blogs instead of taking action
How about the CO and the 3rd Watch Lt. M, signing off on the T/F that they both required from officers to provide activity in order to get a day off?
ACLU where are you on this???? Now you have to go out and write someone in order to get a day off? "So officer, why did you stop my client?" "I am sorry officer, did you say that you wrote my client so you could get a day off?"
Lol
The PP taste so good.....the PP taste so good...
the captain in the 9th district is a total whack job
I nominate 011 takes 025 third watch micromanaging Sgts SM and EE . They would fit in perfect except they're scared of the ghetto
well shit starts from the top and who else is at rhe top???? bimbo west!!!!! the biggest pile of bird shit for brains!!!!
To all my fellow PO's in 011. The next time there are posted bids to another district, lets all fill out a PAR form and bid to a certain District. Amongst us all lets pick just one and do it. Send a message to MLAS that there is a serious problem in 011 and it is meritorious captain lemonhead.
And I mean every single one of us blue shirts stick together like NYPD did and DO IT. All except for the front office dollies of course.
And to you captain lemon head, yelling and berating a female PO just shows how spineless that you are. Why don't you try and pull that punk act on one of us in the KMA club? Well, what are you waiting for? you gutless lil punk.
OT:
PROPS:
"Whiplash" star J.K. Simmons went off again -- but instead of throwing chairs ... he was tossing out free Mexican food to cops at his favorite lunch spot.
Fresh off his Oscar win -- for playing a violent hard-ass -- Simmons flipped the script while grabbing lunch Tuesday at Poquito Más in the Valley. We're told he was buying for 2 friends, and got his usual ... a scampi burrito -- but while ordering he saw a couple of LAPD officers in line and picked up their tab too.
Looking to spread even more love ... J.K. stepped up again when a 3rd cop walked into the restaurant.
We're told Simmons dropped about 50 bucks for all six meals -- which makes the moral of this story: Always be generous. Especially when you can get a great deal.
What happened yesterday? In less than 3.5hrs, 3 0110 occurred. A total of 4 homicides to finish the night of between the west side(11 dist) and south side. The first starting just after 3pm.
its ashame the dept continues to promote people that dont know shit about being the police, the continued promtion of idiots makes it hard for a working district to do what has to be done, for example lets take 015 dis, what a great place it was to work there, you go in you answer your jobs make the areest write a tix here and there and your a hero so to say. well things change of course and they change for the worse, a merit hack gets plugged into 015 and there goes your great place to work for down the drain. moves changes demands with no real justifaction,,not to mention her causing a P/O to get injured on NATO nite when she should have sustaind the beatdown herself,,,Now the bitch was brought into 011,,,hmmmmm i wonder why theres so much craziness there, could she be at it again??? thats what happens when stupid people are given the power to take charge, good luck to you all in 011 ya'll gonna need it with that big dummy there....
EEOC beef NOT a rumor. Names 'Lemmercus', a certain Lt. that has a twin and a certain Lt. who looks like she borrowed her hair from 'Charlie's Angels' (you kids google that). These goofs have no clue who they picked a fight with. She may be small in stature but she carries a big stick and shes much smarter than she lets on. I hope all 3 get their comeuppance especially Lt. Twin since he's done so much to ruin my beloved 2nd watch. Prob won't happen cuz the bosses always seem to make out ok after they fuck up but at least this is all geting airtime thanks to SCC.
Whoever did that deserves a medal. That was great.
Whoever did this, you are stupid. There are cameras around the station and you will be identified and properly disciplined.
CPD White shirt Leadership
ALL BS
THIS IS CLASSIC!!👮👍👌👊
The department is run by the same type of person you described...as is 001 and a few other districts
They believe their own delusions
oT: whatever happened to the LT exam ? Did they throw out the test ? What happened with the Law Suit ? Also, what happened with the E.T. Test ?
Captain Lemmer should be promoted to Commander of 007 . He is a good supervisor and team player .
Anonymous Anonymous said...
it is all related to the guy project innocence got off... he got paid $25 million from city for wrongfull conviction. Instead of chilling, on the beach in the carriabian with that cash, he is building an army of shitheads in 11, 25, 16, 17.
Dude has no army. The fucking moron has already pissed way 98% of his winnings. People in the know have been watching that money fly out of his bank account. Once its dried up, which is very shortly, the west side savages will be done with him.
Anonymous said...
Although I really do appreciate the humor involved I am troubled by the whining youth of today. Any type of quantifying a job you get paid pretty well for and they yell "quota". Crying because "I got yelled at". I've never witnessed a PO doing their job getting yelled at. Bitching because the supervisors are doing their job by checking to see if you are doing yours. And the always popular "hostile work environment", I am getting a lawyer and sue.
I am so sick of the do nothings on the Department. What makes it worse is that they stand out so well against the heroes that they work with. The men and women that quietly do their job without asking for anything more than their paycheck. The workers that know that they are a part of a whole. A part of a thin blue line that keeps this city safe.
Are some bosses horrible? Sure are. Are some over their heads? Yep. Are some Mayors and Superintendents slaves to the politically correct progressive machine. You betcha. Act like men, not spoiled children - the Everybody Gets a Trophy Generation.
2/26/2015 05:33:00 AM
Pussification of America! Prepare yourself because it's only going to get worse! Some of these classes that have come from the Academy over the last year and a half or so have gone from bad, to worse, to flat-out awful. Just ask some of these Fto's, Sgt's or beat coppers. There's some Ppo's who do nothing but kiss Lt's, Cpt's and Commander's asses all day, some who will cry if asked to do work, others that are going to get another copper hurt...the list goes on and on.
Of course there are terrible bosses on this job, and it is really sad what has happened to 011. But it doesn't hide the fact that the 2-year and under wonders, clout babies, and merit hacks don't know how to be the police...or adults for that matter.
Gotta love police humor.....
Whoever did this, you are stupid. There are cameras around the station and you will be identified and properly disciplined.
2/26/2015 10:02:00 AM
Do the cameras even work? Nothing is properly maintained or fixed on a regular basis in this cheap ass department so I wouldn't worry too much about some camera that was installed back in 1982. The wiring and insulation are probably making nice bedding for the rats somewhere.
Damn! I was just about to bid to 11
Anonymous said...
I nominate 011 takes 025 third watch micromanaging Sgts SM and EE . They would fit in perfect except they're scared of the ghetto
2/26/2015 08:59:00 AM
Got no problem with Sgt. S.M. The man is truly exemplary in every manner. From the way he looks and his accent to not only his knowledge about CPD general orders and directives but all things in life. From astrophysics to zoology. The man truly does know his stuff. Just ask him.
I want one of those two bar piercings for my little weenee.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
How about Lemmer Fillmorus Stupis Rex?
Moves at HQ! More to come!
Document everything. Get a date book. Write every little thing down.
What boss big boss just resigned retired and is going to ISP double helping of pension?
533am I never worked the city. In my dept people do get yelled at and disciplined that were doing their jobs. I saw a guy get commended for an action at a public meeting and all the citizens were happy. They didn't know he also caught two days for his police work. Won't go into details but he never made an arrest or laid his finger on or spoke a word to the mopes...but his actions led to their arrest. Dept said he violated the GO. Suspects were involved in a string of car jackings , robberies and a murder. Another town process pinched them and everybody's happy except a PO who caught time without leaving his car.
It seems all the white shirts in 011 have become softballs. All I here is help me help you. I bring in my numbers asked then its raised. So we comply, but now another white shirt dumb XO still looks bad who is trying to finish his book, and now goes after immediate supervisors of PO's. I dont mind getting written up if im in the wrong. I still get my time denied whether good or bad. But talk about some whinnying police, look at the whites shirts going nuts because they got written up by their supervisor. Oh No. Sorry whiteshirts you had no problem writting PO's up but now the microscope is on you and you can't get a duck every other day or have off whenever you wanted. When did po's ever get sent over from other districts to fill in like white shirts do. So now the table has turned. Help me help you.
Sounds like a certain lieutenant on midnights in 018 who should have been fired for her hostile behavior toward P/Os.
I nominate 011 takes 025 third watch micromanaging Sgts SM and EE . They would fit in perfect except they're scared of the ghetto
2/26/2015 08:59:00 AM
Hey!! You leave sweet baby and 25- turty alone!
It sounds like the management at OEMC too.
Sounds like the asshole Sgt in one of the Saturation Units, that likes to belittle officers and talk about them behind their backs like a little fat bitch. I think he was made also.
Wow Mette, get off your fucking soap box and this coming from the golden child. Go pound sand you precious fuck!
"STOP! You can not get written up for not bringing activity in. Take one for the team....look at the bigger picture. Together we rise or together we fall!!"
no activity bi u = vri 4 me. take one for the team bi all means.
Statue is too fn funny.
Been retired seven years ago and that's the stuff I miss. Thanks for this blog because not only does it get the truth out but every so often some REALLY funny crap appears.
011 coppers alow this alleged xo stepon them. everyone file a law suit. Cost shit to file and each person' files alone. represent yourself. Read the law folks. File a EEOC beef at headquarters. Hit the dept with a ton of legal papers and they will move this fool.
Document everything this fool says and have witnesses.
You folks will be stroking out with this nuts screwing your health up.
When he finds out you filed, and he threatens you, call IAD and get a number....
My heart goes out to you bucks.
That asshole drucnk does not care but the hall does not kike getting hit with paper to file suit, The more that file the better. If you left there, file...two year statue of limitation.
Bless you all.
2/26/2015 04:48:00 AM
Thanks for the info... When I spoke to the FOP I was told there was nothing I could do. After asking several times FOP J became upset at my questions and told me to rethink my future employment with this department. I have documented everything the threats the comments everything. Once again thank you for the useful info.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Whoever did this, you are stupid. There are cameras around the station and you will be identified and properly disciplined.
2/26/2015 10:02:00 AM
PROPERLY DISCIPLINED???? HMMM. MUST BE A BOSS ON THE BLOG ON COMPANY TIME. Hope they don't find who did it and CHUCKLE, CHUCKLE. Hope ya have a nice stress filled career.
Years ago so many guys were leaving 011 for 023, they were calling it 011 North. Lemmer was watch commander of 3rd watch in 023 at that time.
Many of those coppers grew weary of Lemmer's microscope always trained on their every movement. Many bid out of 023 as a result, and a handful even bid BACK to 011.
I hope those same POs have already left 011 for greener pastures. I can't imagine fleeing a district to get away from a terrible boss, and then he follows you to the west siiiiide.
I could not agree more with the posters that emphasize reading general orders. Even if you do not want to be a Sgt. when given and order by a supervisor and responding "That is not what the directive states sir, are you giving me a direct order to deviate from the general order?" I always find it amusing the look on their face. Directives apply to all not some and most of them are very clearly defined. It is a way of defending yourself from company men. IAD would not be so forgiving if a cr was initiated, remember whatever you do when you are being disciplined they will always see if you followed directive. This applies to members of lighter shirts as well.
Now that's funny!
Almost on the level of the time we were given honorables for responding to the Flt. 191 crash at O'Hare.
We made paper airplanes out of them and set them on fire at roll call.
"Whoever did this, you are stupid. There are cameras around the station and you will be identified and properly disciplined."
Wow! Great point merit detective! I'm sure the perpetrator never thought that through and exposed his or her face and star to the high-tech infrared HD cameras.
Back in the day this would of went out to the parking lot!
Now that's funny, kinda like what we old school coppers did in the past! Counseling for not taking lunch? Thats the absolute top of the stupidity scale! Why are there so many goofs promoted?
Who is leo taking from CPD top boss to ISP? Guess no 1 else is qualified,another pension helping? Thought bruce was going to be sure to stop the double-triple scoopers?
to MIKE METTE 02/26/0700am nice to hear from you i m a friend of both you and your father glad to see you are still out there doing gods work stay safe brother,
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Whoever did this, you are stupid. There are cameras around the station and you will be identified and properly disciplined.
2/26/2015 10:02:00 AM
Right. And they didn't know about the invention of surveillance cameras or ski masks or hoodies. Never heard of any of those. If they were paying attention to their last armed robbery arrest, they know. Or saw video of a burglary. Etc.
(OT) just got this thank God airports are fully staffed, Swat guys and everything!
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/25/tsa-issues-secret-warning-catastrophic-threat-aviation/
I nominate 011 takes 025 third watch micromanaging Sgts SM and EE . They would fit in perfect except they're scared of the ghetto
2/26/2015 08:59:00 .
Hilarious. Both with a history of " domestic" issues.
This douche SPARD 3 sgts on 1st watch sat night when he got his panties in a bunch about signing out car keys. Completely out of line yelling and screaming. All documented his demeanor and fighting the disciplinary actions. Unions notified and cr generated for his lack of professionalism. Interestingly this all occurred shortly after he was notified about the 3rd watch female Sgt filing EEOC complaint on him.
Back in the day his old man was a pussy, then I delt with the kid and he redefined what a pusy is.
At leadt his old man never tried to hurt anyone. All bark.
To all the Iraq war types talking about CPD and profesionalisim. There were hijinks pulled by the boys that served in Vietnam, and I'm sure the vets before them too.
Asshole boss' always have gotten shit pulled on them. Downtown has always had to eat these boss'. Someone promted them and they have to be somewhere.
the system should not tolerated this behavior by any one white shirts or anyone !!!! . the title is given and sometime not earned so having said this appreciate the fact that you have the title and don't abuse it by treating officers like slaves or shit this must stop .
it much easier to make the workplace a place to want to come to not one which make people run away.
karma is alive and well
remember one thing in life is not what title you held . you will be judge by the type of person you were!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it's like the song go
"DON'T LET IT GO TO YOUR HEAD "
The latest 011 episode finds a CR# being levied against all radio room personnel. I hear that some the new radio have been intentionally fucked up by 3rd watch PO's.
Stay tuned gang. This oughtta be interesting.
This is an absolute falsehood. NO ONE was officially counseled over lunches. SCC please, get your facts together and verify the information BEFORE you post them on your site. I know this is not a news publication, but really?? This nonsense stemmed from an inquiry about notations (or lack)of on the Supervisor's Logs.
I agree with Mike Mette, stop crying about wether or not lunches are taken or documented. The Rules state that Officers will acknowledge and request lunch over the air. If the supervisor does not hear this or see it on the computer, he/she refused to place false or incorrect statements on an official document(hence the Supervisor's Log). You all are allowing a minority of malcontents stir the pot, by turning you against the supervisors and each other. If these people aren't happy where they are and they want things to change right now, there's a remedy for that. It's called a PAR Form. "Used once monthly or when the time is just right. After-effects include: happiness, contentment, general ease, mood elevation and reduced backaches and ear infections for your co-workers who have to carry your weight and listen to your endless whining. Please consult your Watch Lieutenant before use" .
Lemme spent time as the XO in 3, people bitched at first but then it subsided. What's the difference now that he is in 11?
Young 11th district coppers thinking they are special because they are in 11? Or did lemmer go off the deep end?
Next put a dead raccoon in the ceiling of his office. It worked before, funny as hell. If you can't get a raccoon any rodent will do
Regarding LT Magic 008, here is a lil history lesson... PPO Magic (008 west end) PO Magic (008 west end) ERPS & Midway Airport. SGT Magic (008 west end) Mass Transit LT Magic (008 House Mouse) just another guy that has been riding his daddy's coat tails. Never had a bad day on this job but wants everybody else to be miserable! HANDJOB !!!
"I could not agree more with the posters that emphasize reading general orders....."
I agree with your agreement, but keep in mind that they are "general" orders, meant to guide your actions.Especially the ones with the disclaimer at the end.....
Don't get me wrong, some hand-job boss will hang you out for a violation of said order.At least that's the way I was taught.
Retired,but still cares about the good guys.Be Safe All.
Off topic, were being told we can not submit time due after the 7 days prior. Was this really the intent of this new contract?
Documenting everything wrong with department personnel can take up my entire 8 hour day. I'd never get any police work done.
it is all related to the guy project innocence got off... he got paid $25 million from city for wrongfull conviction. Instead of chilling, on the beach in the carriabian with that cash, he is building an army of shitheads in 11, 25, 16, 17.
2/26/2015 12:29:00 AM
He actually got paid 15 after all lawyers fee and let's just say he is running Low. Like more that half gone. Henjust wastes money
Anyone that doesn't take their non paid 30mins is an f'ng mush. But nowadays this department is full of them.
"Any white shirt who likes to get loud should be pulled to the side.
Let them know you aint no bitch!
or keep on being treated like a sissy.
TOO much facebook kids don't know how to face reality and put a clouted in check."
You'd catch 30 pending before you got one word in.
Safe your tuff guy talk for the pee wee hockey team Lombardi
No promotions until Fall, no changes either. There is no one left to make changes.
How do you know Lemmer didn't do that thing with the statue?
U know it's bad when one has to resort to ancient roman statutes
Anonymous Anonymous said...
(OT) just got this thank God airports are fully staffed, Swat guys and everything!
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/25/tsa-issues-secret-warning-catastrophic-threat-aviation/
2/26/2015 04:53:00 PM
Yep they are very safe: proof:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/02/25/hundreds-of-security-badges-have-gone-missing-from-americas-busiest-airport/
All this talk about the "2" year wonders ruining this district is no ones fault but the veteran officers if that's what you believe. I remember when I got on the vets would show us the ropes. Now I listen to the "veteran" officers telling them not to work, disappearing after roll call or my personal favorite "can I get a personal in 011" when they get banged for a job. Just shut it already. we have a lot of great coppers in 011 young and old and with some guidance can become even better. Overall just quit bitching and do your job
Michael Mette said...
All I have to say is what a bunch of pansies we have in 011 now a days. Let's see the truth behind this, these POs are absent from the time they leave roll call til check off and the only real way to find out where they are is to make them go down on lunch...still with me? What's with the lawsuits? Seriously, did Capt hurt your feelings? Ah poor baby! Want me to hold you and make you feel better? Grow the F up and be the police! I have never seen such bullshit outta so called hard ass coppers in the so called wild wild west. you wanna be the soft police go somewhere else! No where else in the U.S. could coppers get away with doing as little as these people and still feel like they are being asked to do too much. Wow!
Really mike wow.... What have you ever done to be on the tact team? You sure like to talk, maybe wrote a couple traffic tickets. But really what have you done to be on the tact team and what do you actually do on the tact team. I never see you in branch 44 so please keep your comments to yourself. God I love the people who talk so much but do so little police work. If you are on the tact team you should be in 44 every week!!
Rule 8
Disrespect to or maltreatment of any person, while on or off duty.
Anonymous said...
This douche SPARD 3 sgts on 1st watch sat night when he got his panties in a bunch about signing out car keys. Completely out of line yelling and screaming. All documented his demeanor and fighting the disciplinary actions. Unions notified and cr generated for his lack of professionalism. Interestingly this all occurred shortly after he was notified about the 3rd watch female Sgt filing EEOC complaint on him.
From an old retired guy. Cannot believe the CPD has come to this. Its like a soap opera. I can't believe it has changed so much. Seems to be happening in quite a few districts. Doesn't appear to be an isolated incident,but is becoming the norm
You could not have summed it up better> You hit Glenn Evans right on the head. He was nuts as a patrolman,Sgt,Lt and now Commander. I often wondered when it would all fall apart for him. He is a disaster.
The boss is the boss even when he/she is wrong. Do what the boss says, salute and say aye aye sir, then complain after you have followed orders. Follow the rules and the regulations to the letter and you will be fine. I learned this in the USMC, and it also applies to the CPD.
I'm going to guess that your early childhood diet was rich in lead paint.
Regarding Lt. Magic...I work for him In 008 I'm not clouted and I'm not a suck ass to supervisors actually I'm so not clouted I might be forgotten lol...yes Lt. Magic has had a pretty easy career and been taken care of....so what we all would take the opportunity if given ...but what I think my fellow peers on midnight forget is that he is your Lt.!!!!! And that's that do what he says and he will leave you alone ...we have alot of guys who are very disrespectful to the bosses on midnights and its a shame. When a p.o is disrespectful don't you think the white shirts or going to fight back? Deny time,split up partners? Stand up roll call every day? I've never had a problem with magic or the sgts ....or some of them micro managers.....sure but who cares as long as they don't tell me anything illegal to do I do what they say...no reason to commit insubordination....that's the problem we as officers have on the street nobody wants to comply or be told what to do and that's the problem p.o's have with white shirts...even Jesus said in the bible respect authority.....some of you guys take this job to serious my partner included when I get off I'm off I don't take this job home with me and neither should you screw a white shirts or blue shirt or plain clothes....see chumps at roll call!
Wrong 10:02 p.m. It's not the veteran officers failing to show the 2 year wonders the ropes. Lt. H-M put these guys on cars, including 06, fresh off of foot patrol knowing that they would produce b.s. activity. These guys did three cycles, walked around for 12 months doing and learning nothing, got to the district and partnered up with people who know just as little as they do, and now they walk around like they're God's gift to police work. The place is a joke.
close 011 district lock-up, its takes less amount of time to take your prisoner to central D and get them in there. midnight lock-up are a bunch of useless lazy turn keys...
All you Tuffy O'Tooles longing for days gone by when men in CPD uniforms settled differences in the parking lot...
The current crop of "supervisors" excel in fucking with people.
They're too chickenshit to strip off insignia and rank and agree to step outside for being blatantly disrespectful to another adult...
What happens in the parking lot will never stay in the parking lot when it comes to these cowardly, treacherous and vindictive new breed white shirts.
Mouth causes an overdraft to hit that ass.
M/Fers want to brow-beat then hide behind their rank.
Shame on any district commander for letting their subordinate supervisors mistreat their officers with impunity.
We recall one d/c who said his supervisors were right even when they were wrong.
Downtown eventually moved his miserable, ignorant ass.
George Sims would have knocked this cowardly little shit right on his ass, so would any other policeman in 011 from Fillmores's glory days of the '60's. Lemmerer will get his when Chuy is elected.
Paul Tasch Jr. pulled shit in 014 and the result was flat tires and burnt cars. That was back in the day. Now everyone blames everyone else for 011 going down. Bosses are bad, POs don't want to do shit, some just like to work. Nothing has changed in this Department from day One. File a suit but bitching won't solve anything.
Great statue and title.
Mike I worked with you and we had a bad boss , so get off the high horse. That type of situation sucks and you know it. It makes for poor productivity.
Michael Mette said...
All I have to say is what a bunch of pansies we have in 011 now a days. Let's see the truth behind this, these POs are absent from the time they leave roll call til check off and the only real way to find out where they are is to make them go down on lunch...still with me? What's with the lawsuits? Seriously, did Capt hurt your feelings? Ah poor baby! Want me to hold you and make you feel better? Grow the F up and be the police! I have never seen such bullshit outta so called hard ass coppers in the so called wild wild west. you wanna be the soft police go somewhere else! No where else in the U.S. could coppers get away with doing as little as these people and still feel like they are being asked to do too much. Wow!
Really mike wow.... What have you ever done to be on the tact team? You sure like to talk, maybe wrote a couple traffic tickets. But really what have you done to be on the tact team and what do you actually do on the tact team. I never see you in branch 44 so please keep your comments to yourself. God I love the people who talk so much but do so little police work. If you are on the tact team you should be in 44 every week!!
2/26/2015 10:02:00 PM
Mike, my hats off to you again, well said.
And to the author of the above comment. Know who your talking about before you stick your foot in your mouth tough guy.
Got no problem with Sgt. S.M. The man is truly exemplary in every manner. From the way he looks and his accent to not only his knowledge about CPD general orders and directives but all things in life. From astrophysics to zoology. The man truly does know his stuff. Just ask him.
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Sgt. SM 025 is the best! I love hearing about his glory days as a detective. So inspiring! He protects his troops too! That's why you always see him driving around the 30 sector. What a toughie he is! Thanks for taking the side of that crazy person on that job for a request supervisor. You were totally right in doing that!
**toilet flushes**
Michael Mette said...
All I have to say is what a bunch of pansies we have in 011 now a days. Let's see the truth behind this, these POs are absent from the time they leave roll call til check off and the only real way to find out where they are is to make them go down on lunch...still with me? What's with the lawsuits? Seriously, did Capt hurt your feelings? Ah poor baby! Want me to hold you and make you feel better? Grow the F up and be the police! I have never seen such bullshit outta so called hard ass coppers in the so called wild wild west. you wanna be the soft police go somewhere else! No where else in the U.S. could coppers get away with doing as little as these people and still feel like they are being asked to do too much. Wow!
2/26/2015 07:07:00 AM
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The above person hit the nail right on the head. In the academy we teach tactical communications. You have to handle things the right way. Ethics are involved. You have to practice your communication skills and learn to carry your own weight. Learn to be the police.
The first watch needed to be put in check. They constantly take cars without logging the car numbers, and then if they damage the car they just park it and grab another set of keys. Then someone else takes the hit for the damage. People have been complaining about first watch pulling this bullsbit for a while. So they get called on it and someone else is the bad guy? I don't care for the captain either but first watch is suffering from a complete lack of front line supervision and a bunch of kids who won't take responsibility for their actions. And the other complaint from 1st watch, having to work the entire tour instead of leaving way early. Boohoo, grow up, quit and go get a real job and see how long you last. And I agree with Mette's post, 011 has turned from police officers to a bunch of entitlement whining babies.
Violation of rule 8, 31 and 32. The police station is considered a public place.
Was an arrogant asshole 20 years ago in 009-another Cline gem.
Can't wait for the body cameras, all the ones that will be accidentaly left on taping these out of control bosses, telling po's to generate quota activity,violating their rights, saying/doing illegal things, leaving 6 hours early without dropping slips,etc. Just wait till the lawyers suboeona THAT!! The WHITE SHIRTS will be begging the department to get rid of these things. Just wait, these cameras might actually be a good thing. Screw these out of control crooked stupidvisors.
This department is FULL of douche supervisors, was not like that before. This is actively taught to new supervisors in the academy. Coupled with being strokes and nerds prior to being on the job. And these tools wonder why we don't produce or give a fuck anymore. Figure that one out city hall.
I've said it before and I'll say it again....you can always outlast a bad boss. They come and go. Suffer through it, make fun of the J/O, and know they'll be gone sooner than you will.
Mike Mette senior or junior? I don't know the junior but the senior was a great copper.
If you are on the tact team you should be in 44 every week!!
2/26/2015 10:02:00 PM
Come for the probable cause hearing on arrest made when you were on furlo in Myanmar.
Stay for the great coffee in ASA's office.
Corcoran
v.
The City of Chicago
Illinois Northern District Court
Case No. 1:10-cv-06825
Judge the Honorable Rebecca R. Pallmeyer
Nature of Suit 440 Civil Rights - Other
When Area #2 was once saddled with a miserable, lying, really stupid, two faced hack, the Dets simply inserted a very large, very dead racoon in the ceiling over his desk. The building was soon almost uninhabitable and the
louse left. Easy
Off topic, were being told we can not submit time due after the 7 days prior. Was this really the intent of this new contract?
2/26/2015 07:52:00 PM
So the contract says for "you." However, I am sure there is going to be a lot of shenanigans pulled to get around this!
I am a retired Sgt. and had a team of guys in a unit. We got along great, we all kidded around and had a lot of fun, but when it came down to doing it right I was in charge period, if they screwed up I went off on them as a group, but on an individual basis my policy was Praise in Public, Scold in Private, I never embarrassed anyone but also they never ever mistaked Kindness for Weakness, I always had their backs and went to bat for them against any W/c in any district we worked. They never complained about working conditions because they knew they had it better then any beat car assignment where beat officers get messed with by WC's who can't see past that Lt or Capts. bars.
Anonymous said...
This douche SPARD 3 sgts on 1st watch sat night when he got his panties in a bunch about signing out car keys. Completely out of line yelling and screaming. All documented his demeanor and fighting the disciplinary actions. Unions notified and cr generated for his lack of professionalism. Interestingly this all occurred shortly after he was notified about the 3rd watch female Sgt filing EEOC complaint on him.
From an old retired guy. Cannot believe the CPD has come to this. Its like a soap opera. I can't believe it has changed so much. Seems to be happening in quite a few districts. Doesn't appear to be an isolated incident,but is becoming the norm
2/26/2015 10:23:00 PM
Agreed. The days of settling disagreements in management in the parking lot or over some beers in the bar are long gone.
Kind of old but not retired yet-guy
This douche SPARD 3 sgts on 1st watch sat night when he got his panties in a bunch about signing out car keys. Completely out of line yelling and screaming. All documented his demeanor and fighting the disciplinary actions. Unions notified and cr generated for his lack of professionalism. Interestingly this all occurred shortly after he was notified about the 3rd watch female Sgt filing EEOC complaint on him.
From an old retired guy. Cannot believe the CPD has come to this. Its like a soap opera. I can't believe it has changed so much. Seems to be happening in quite a few districts. Doesn't appear to be an isolated incident,but is becoming the norm
2/26/2015 10:23:00 PM
Agreed. The days of settling disagreements in management in the parking lot or over some beers in the bar are long gone.
Kind of old but not retired yet-guy
99% of this shit would never happen in my time. EEOC complaint? Are you f'ing kidding me?
Thanks for the info... When I spoke to the FOP I was told there was nothing I could do. After asking several times FOP J became upset at my questions and told me to rethink my future employment with this department. I have documented everything the threats the comments everything. Once again thank you for the useful info
IF you feel like your getting discriminated against I would not go to our FOP. Most of the white shirts know FOP personel so your not going to get anywhere with FOP.( clout ) I would consult a private attorney instead of contacting FOP for legal matters of harrassment.
A lot of crying from the Tac Lt over there, don't worry your daddy will take care of you.
Wow Mike Mette, your stay in jail made you supreme commander!
Maybe Lemmer is the father of this asshole sgt in central. lol
Lemmer = Sgt FH! two of the same!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
the captain in the 9th district is a total whack job
2/26/2015 08:48:00 AM
Yes. M.R. is a goof and a bit of a stroke.
Given the choice between him and Lemmer though.... no comparison Lemmer is a hell of a lot worse.
I don't think I'm going out on a limb when I say Lemmer is likely the biggest stroke of an XO as there is in the entire department.
Sgt. SM 025 is the best! I love hearing about his glory days as a detective. So inspiring! He protects his troops too! That's why you always see him driving around the 30 sector. What a toughie he is! Thanks for taking the side of that crazy person on that job for a request supervisor. You were totally right in doing that!
**toilet flushes**
I swear to god, you literally made me laugh so hard, I couldn't catch my breath.
I was a "boss" and yes ... I always let the troops go on-duty to police officer's funerals. They were normally on days, we weren't that busy (I worked west) and not ALL the coppers went. Part of our tradition. Not letting officers go to a friend's funeral while their working is just another nail in the coffin of a once great department.
2/27/2015 09:18:00 AM
Oh, you mean back when we actually had manpower.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
the captain in the 9th district is a total whack job
2/26/2015 08:48:00 AM
Yes. M.R. is a goof and a bit of a stroke.
Given the choice between him and Lemmer though.... no comparison Lemmer is a hell of a lot worse.
I don't think I'm going out on a limb when I say Lemmer is likely the biggest stroke of an XO as there is in the entire department.
2/27/2015 05:50:00 PM
Yes, he is a total jag, but can we actually have 2 biggest strokes? Please don't cut XO MR of 24(formerly helped to ruin 19) out of this "award"! He worked so hard to be a total prick to all but a few suckholes.
Hey asshole...you want to go to some guy's funeral who left the district over 2 years ago when that funeral is over 20 miles away from where you work? And you want to do it on company time? Screw you. I don't want to have to do your job while you're using the death of a fellow copper as an excuse to get out of doing your job. If you were that close to him, TAKE COMP TIME and go so I don't have to cover for your lazy ass. Don't say shit because a boss is trying to take care of the WORKERS in the district. It's bad enough you stay down on bullshit jobs every day and I end up taking your calls because your dogging it. There would be no problem if that service was closer and you wouldn't be gone for half the tour and you know it.
Anonymous said...
Hey asshole...you want to go to some guy's funeral who left the district over 2 years ago when that funeral is over 20 miles away from where you work? And you want to do it on company time? Screw you. I don't want to have to do your job while you're using the death of a fellow copper as an excuse to get out of doing your job. If you were that close to him, TAKE COMP TIME and go so I don't have to cover for your lazy ass. Don't say shit because a boss is trying to take care of the WORKERS in the district. It's bad enough you stay down on bullshit jobs every day and I end up taking your calls because your dogging it. There would be no problem if that service was closer and you wouldn't be gone for half the tour and you know it.
2/28/2015 04:41:00 PM
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Here is someone with half a brain. Take comp time if it is that important to you. I too am tired of covering for other people who constantly find ways to be unavailable.
I worked in 023 while Lemmer was there, you want to know deal with Lemmer?
WORK!! Do your job! You dont want to work the street and just answer calls, you better have something to bring in.
Cards, tickets or grab some fuck and lock him up and have something on the sheets, if you don't your branded a dog in his eyes.
The guy had plenty of opportunity to fuck with me, but I never gave him the chance. I stayed the fuck out of the station and I worked. I'm not defending him, all i'm saying is, stay off his fucking radar and your good.
As a side note, this lawsuit shit is fucking STUPID!!! The guy knows the R/R 's and he's no moron when it comes to justifying his actions.
I dislike, what he did at Mass Transit for working 4th watch special! He did ruin that and it was bullshit!!
Shades of Cmdr Carroll.....
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