ET No Shows
People have been posting about a no-show rate for the ET exam topping 50%.
That's incredible.
One has to wonder at such demoralization that so many people don't even want a pay raise bad enough to take an exam. Does the job suck that badly? Is everyone fed up with the exams being fixed so badly (and baldly) that they don't even feel like attempting a test? Was everyone that depressed about Rahm winning?
There's definitely a cloud hanging over this entire Department.
That's incredible.
One has to wonder at such demoralization that so many people don't even want a pay raise bad enough to take an exam. Does the job suck that badly? Is everyone fed up with the exams being fixed so badly (and baldly) that they don't even feel like attempting a test? Was everyone that depressed about Rahm winning?
There's definitely a cloud hanging over this entire Department.
Labels: promotions
posted by SCC at 12:37 AM
158 Comments:
Just went through the whole canine test. Felt like I did great and nailed the oral. More than qualified, in return I get an awesome email with no ranking just stating I didn't do well enough to even get a ranking. They can take every "good job" here and shove it.
The biggest problem in this department is promotion exams . Period ! Cops are so frustrated that they don't care any more . Brutal ! We have a union that has failed to ensure fair exams for the past twenty years . Failure to get involved by any means necessary . This is a by product of watching double and triple merit to political hacks inside and out of our department !
Maybe they found out they don't get to work with all the hot babes they see in CSI: Miami?
The job does not pay much more, plus making ETs do crime lab work for ET pay. Also many tests coming right after notice, no time to re schedule anything one has planned.
I didn't show because I gave up! I'm going to finish driving a beat car. To bad Mr Garcia didn't win :(
Maybe my morale would have been higher if we had a new mayor, it's in the toilet with this current administration. I'm looking foreword to the same old BS.....
Or maybe the no-show rate was because people have kids and it was spring break and reservations were made and plane tickets were bought and this test date came on very short notice?
Demoralization? I resigned 10 months before I was due to max out. I left that last 2.5% on the table. I just didn't care enough to stay that last 10 months. I wanted out so bad. I am out now and have no regrets. There is a pretty nice life after the police department.
I did something nice for my wife. Long ago when we got married we never had proper wedding rings. We do now. She wasn't expecting that. It's one of the things that I just could not have done while employed. As it is, it worked out real fine. We are looking around for houses, outside of Cook County of course. We go see the grandchildren three times a year, at least. And the police department recedes in memory.
Stay safe and keep your sanity. Don't do anything to get on the front pages or in Federal Court.
It was probably about a 40% no-show rate in my exam room.
Given how the ETs have been understaffed, frequently get unhealthy amounts of OT, and do crime lab duties, maybe the no-shows had the right idea.
The department putting out an email saying, "Surprise, the exam's in less than 3 weeks!" probably led many to realize that they hadn't been studying and a couple weeks of studying wasn't going to cut it.
How many are they really going to promote. Half the ETs now want to quit. An ET Came on my job and said there are no mobile crime Lab guys left, ETs are treated like step children and do to much work.
I'm glad I talked to him before I made a fatal mistake and wasted my time. I have a really slow beat and like the people I work with. ET sounds like a sweat shop. Now disrespect to all the hard working sweat shop workers. I think I'll just cost!
All of the above!
Just like canine tests results were posted for 45 min at the academy and then taken dowN so they can change shit. Officers with canine training experience didn't even make the list. everyone knows how corrupt this shithole city is. E.g. fire results came out. U were given a randomly assigned number, when last time it was by ss #. How legit do u think that was.
Sometimes the blood of tyrants need to be spilled before society will be changed
No one wants to work 10 hour days even for a pay raise.
15 empty seats in my classroom. Only 14 bodies total.
Nobody gives a shit anymore.
Who actually determines what evidence is on scene? Po or supervisor? I put sup because order states when feasible a sup will determine if e.t. is to be ordered.
Surprised this hasn't happened sooner. Nobody cares any more. Put the blinders on and just answer your calls. Take the winners to jail and the losers to the morgue. The public doesn't want police doing real police work. Give them what they want. When things get bad enough they will let us know.
The last weekend of spring break. How many decided to stay in the dells or elsewhere instead of taking a test to work mids and dust for prints in a roach infested house.
Maybe they just feel it is a waste of their time for nothing.
I don't want any promotions! I just want out because this job and police dept. And city sucks balls!
Spring break? Great timing for a test...
To the 1100 that didn't bother to show up I say thank you very much. Your bitterness and laziness just made my chances go from 1 in 20 to 1 in 8. I'll enjoy my bigger salary and my bigger vri checks while you get to go on enjoying your anger. Again, thank you
Surprised Rahm would win? Wake up. The game has been rigged for decades. Depressed that it is rigged? Then grow a set and fight back. Why are you letting your "lessers" get the better of you?
The Forensic Services Section has been a broken joke for a long time and nobody in their right mind wants to get involved with such a mess.
What is the big deal - less competition for people who really want it.
"Does the job suck that badly? Is everyone fed up with the exams being fixed so badly (and baldly) that they don't even feel like attempting a test?
YES and YES!
Apathy. Too bad.
Fixed tests are not just demoralizing, they speak volumes as to the questionable selections for ALL positions.
There was a great Al Capone quote:
"I got nothing against the honest cop on the beat. You just have them transferred someplace where they can't do you any harm. But don't ever talk to me about the honor of police captains or judges. If they couldn't be bought, they wouldn't have the job."
True then, true now.
If everybody is That depressed, you and only you can pull yourself out of it. Get some cymblata or some lexepro to help get your heads right.
Forget about it. I like just being a lowly blue shirt. No demands, no work load, just drive around answer my calls. Can't get any better than this....
Exams are definitely fixed there is no way someone can finish a test in 30 minutes you cant possibly tell me you read all 77 questions and every possible answer unless you knew the answers or said screw it but i doubt its the latter since you got up out of your bed and drove to Whitney young this department is a scam...
How can i buy my way in?
It's the ET test. Low turnout expected.
I took the test, it was written horrible.
Why should WE care? The city won't fund the pension. Both the city and our union is forcing this horrible 10 hour schedule down our throats. Cameras every which way. Then you get a boss like the freak in 011 yelling at people because we are not not having fun anymore.
Eight years ago, there were over 120 ET's north and south combined, now there are less than 70 total. Good times.
Here's a little secret, if anyone has ever told you the test is fixed or that it's pointless to study, most are lying. It's a tactic to get you not to take the test in order to increase their chances of ranking better by reducing the competition. Just think back to some of the buys who have told you they're not going to study or take the test then it turns out they get promoted. Don't be the mark in the con. Study and take every test. It worked for me.
Get the merit packages ready for sgts class
The beatings will continue untill morale improves
This stems from the entitled me genration. Anything that requires you to do work for isn't worth the trouble. I took Bernstein did a little studying and got promoted. No secret study group or phone call. I'm sick of people just walking around complaining about this job. Most of the drama on this job is caused by other Po's. Or rumors posted on this site. This job is fairly easy and pays pretty good. Try shutting your mouth and doing your job.
My E.T. exam was held in the Red Lunch House area of Whitney Young. I'd say half to 2/3 of the room was empty. The exam was not to difficult but that's what I said about the Sgt. exam and I won't be making Sgt off that test during my career.
Give a two week notice around Easter and spring break. I'm sure that no one had prearranged plans or anything. Completely orchestrated so half do not show up.
The job sucks....its that simple
sad to say but i think the sox opener had something to do with it.
Job SUXs Only for the CLOUTED
\\\Cant wait till the 10.5 Hour Madness
They new it was rigged!
What's next exam for tact guy.
The numbers will be moved around till the right people are in top 20.
So a few question will be thrown out then the questions will be weighted differently(google it).
Plus the day guys get the day off for the cost of the test. 1st sign of genius.
ET? what a shit job. Midnights for every until you quit
OT: 26 people shot in Chicago over the weekend and the weather is just starting to get warm. When is the McCarthy project over? Hes been on the medical since he had the grabber anyeays. Time to make a move a get a new leader for CPD!
OT
boy, THEY don't like getting video taped....
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0b1_1428427736#KI6LCSED2MmzG7yk.99
People are finding out how the Canine exam was rigged.
If anyone has any questions ask some of the officers in Canine who are "in the know".
Blame it on the Ferguson, MO situation last year! the neighborhoods are still up in ARMS!
An Officer doesn't want to find themselves in the middle of this situation!
COMBAT PAY!
Bill Maher: Cops Should Just Shoot People In The Ankles
Read more at
http://patdollard.com/2015/04/bill-maher-cops-should-just-shoot-people-in-the-ankles/#zMPj5HcSMSFGVOHf.99
The turn out shows how good of a job E.T. Is. You want the best and brightest give D2A.
Why bother? CPD Communist Run and completely corrupt. Has been for decades. Yes, the big picture is, you work for corrupt Communists./(Democrats). You are probably one yourself, so deal with it. Pay off for a promotion, just like Tiajuana or Havana, same difference here in commie ago, obamaville.
No, people are just lazy. You can't complain about the city not giving enough exams for you to be promoted and not show up. ET is a great job. I'm happy for those who took it. Less competition.
For me it's that I am tired of this Department and it's promotion bs. Done playing their silly games and wasting my time. Somebody had the answers. ...somebody will be interviewed that has clout. ...etc....beaten down by the machine. The quicker you realize that the better off you are on this job.
Possibly the worst job on the Department. Be careful what you wish for.....
PREVIEW ALERT: Police Officer Martin Prieb is coming out with a new Blog Posting surrounding the deaths of 7 people in an arson/homicide which occurred in January 1987. The results of the initial and followup investigation leads to the arrest and conviction of the offender, one Madison Hobley. Prieb skillfully reviews the incident giving the reader a very disturbing picture of not only the crime itself but how the City of Chicago handled the lawsuit initiated by the lawyers who filed this action. If you read any of Prieb's previous essays on the Anthony Porter incident, you can not understand why the City of Chicago settled this lawsuit and did not fight this lawsuit? The city paid Hobley 6 million dollars to "SETTLE THE CASE". For whatever reason the "City" did not fight this case AS they did in the Porter law suite. After reading his new essay one wonders "WHY"! Why did the city not fight this lawsuit? Why was there no outcry from the FOP regarding this settlement? WHY DIDN'T THE FOP STAND UP FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS/DETECTIVES INVOLVED IN THIS INCIDENT? As one can see what is happening today with the various lawsuits against the city and the police officers involved in incidents, Priebs new essay just goes to prove that CHICAGO IS STILL THE CROOKED CITY.
Fire test results just came out.
OVER 17000 took the exam AND PASSED. What a joke.
Everyone was given a lotto number.
The exam was made so easy because the city was worried about lawsuits like the last one.
Unless you have a number under 2000 you will not get called for the rest of the testing.
The Fire department is not like CPD.. they do not exhaust the list.
More people would rather take the fire job.
I think it's Clear...
If you take the assignment, you are going into a clearly understaffed unit with too many merit supervisors (I've never seen bids for an ET supervisor!)(or a dicks unit) who will meddle in what you do thereby reducing your effectiveness at what you do. Days off will be denied for manpower shortages. The new assignments they hire will never equal what the job really needs, and You'll hit the ground running to a stacked jobs treadmill of work and to save your sanity you will reduce your output to a bare workable minimum, even though you came on to make a difference, and for the right reasons. Furthermore, you'll only see a majority of terrible bosses doing jobs they are not qualified to do (In the real world they would be seen for what they are) and getting promoted time and time again on the back of your hard work. Come to think of it...the rest of this job is run that way too! It's time to fix this, or jump ship. We are listing at 15% and still taking on water.... detective unit, ET's, crime Lab, etc...Does anybody see a pattern here? Remember the failed FTO program? (over half bailed on the first day at the academy) When this Department commits to fighting crime again, no matter where it exists. We can right this ship. But I suspect that will take Generations....Until that happens. Be careful out there! It's only a job...
You hit it on the head SCC.
I'm just tired of seeing do nothings make rank or join various units when in practice they did little as possible or studied their ass off to pass a test that now makes them qualified.
In my room there were at least 12 empty seats, however there was a placard at one of the empty desks for a friend of mine. When i contacted this friend he was upset because he received an email telling him he was disqualified and could not report for the test. He followed up the email and was told he disqualified himself by answering no to one of the questions on the application. Could this be one of the reasons why there were so many empty seats?
I skipped it because there is no upside. Other than a pay increase, I cannot get time off in the district and I wouldnt expect being at ET is any easier. This coming from an idiot with 14yrs on who still believes that there are bosses who should take care of the working police.
In the case you have forgotten, here is the schedule you will be forced into when the 10 hours go city wide this summer, with NO input from US.
Day (2nd) Watch
Roll Call Check-Off
10 Sector - Squadrol - Rapids 0530 hours 1600 hours
20 Sector - Rapids 0700 hours 1730 hours
30 Sector - Rapids 0900 hours 1930 hours
40 Rapid Response 0900 hours 1930 hours
District Desk Early Assignment 0500 hours 1530 hours
District Desk Late Assignment 0800 hours 1830 hours
District Station Supervisor 0500 hours 1530 hours
E. Night (3rd) Watch
Roll Call Check-Off
10 Sector - Squadrol - Rapids 1630 hours 0300 hours
20 Sector - Rapids 1830 hours 0500 hours
30 Sector - Rapids 2000 hours 0630 hours
40 Rapid Response 1830 hours 0500 hours
District Desk Early Assignment 1600 hours 0230 hours
District Desk Late Assignment 2000 hours 0630 hours
District Station Supervisor 1900 hours 0530 hours
Only the top 30% seniority of the district will get days. If you are not in that top 30% or if you don't have a huge phone call, you are on midnights.
call FOP 312-733-7776 and tell them NO!
It is just as bad at Aviation.
The political scarecrows doing the interviews know who to "promote."
It doesn't make a difference how many times you pass the tests.
Looking forward to the day I can leave Chicago for good.
Entitlement generation. Job isn't that attractive. Nobody goes from et to lieutenant
Don't forget it was over Spring Break. People with families are not going to forego a vacation on a slim chance of being promoted. Whomever set up the exam at that time should be removed from their position. Just like the Lt's exam...why have it on a weekend in the Summer when the Catholic kids are graduating? Aren't "all hands on deck" needed during the critical Summer months? Wouldn't February or January be a better idea for an exam?
Anonymous said...
If everybody is That depressed, you and only you can pull yourself out of it. Get some cymblata or some lexepro to help get your heads right.
4/13/2015 06:56:00 AM
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That's a big problem. Anyone on drugs for mood stabilization is a risk to men in patrol.
make a class off the old list.all the challenges and lawsuits will delay this latest test!WE NEED ETS NOW!!
what work schedule do et's have?
Honestly I signed up and said fuck it. I have 15 years on and I would rather put my effort into doing something else after this job. I'm tired of the city and the department and the politics and the anti police everything. Love my co workers but otherwise I have mentally checked out
Not worth it -- very minuscule bump in base salary
If you want to make money, then yes be an ET. they are overworked but many of them love the big money. But maybe with the test and spots getting filled then the OT would be cut to an acceptable level and the ET's could prevail. doing the Crime Lab and Death Investigations were supposedly against the law since the ET's were not trained, this was told to me by an ET.
If you dont try, you will certianly fail.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To the 1100 that didn't bother to show up I say thank you very much. Your bitterness and laziness just made my chances go from 1 in 20 to 1 in 8. I'll enjoy my bigger salary and my bigger vri checks while you get to go on enjoying your anger. Again, thank you
Your welcome number 9.
Signed Happy Camper :D
Does anyone remember the last ET test some people had a missing page on the end. Therefore they removed the last page answers on everyone. Surprisingly some scores went from the 90's to low 80's or below.
The test was scan tron. What's the reason behind not scoring the test before walking out the building? There was much less technoloigy in the 70"s and 80's, but officers had their scores before they left the building.
Was on ET waiting list years ago, never called me, ran into an ET who was after me on the list, called union and they said they couldn't find the list & therefore couldn't help .........unbelievable! Got passed over for Sgt also, due to affirmative action......... And they wonder why guys get bitter on this job.
From a prior thread but right on the money:
ET test was a joke. Test had several grammatical errors and content that was outside the scope of tasks, duties and responsibilities of what an ET would encounter. Why would who is responsible for notifying the MEs office of a death in custody be on an ET test? Why is the time a juvenile can be held in secure custody a part of an ET test? How does the DSS being able to waive a Juvys prints after 45 minutes relate to what an ET does? Why would the DSS be responsible for verifying a warrant revealed upon fingerprints clearing be on an ET test?
Is the DSS responsible for printing hospitalized arrestees? No, he or she isn't. So why would an aspiring ET need to know that BIA is responsible for okaying a PO getting his/her weapon back after an OOP is rectified and s/he is returned to full duty status? Makes absolutely no sense.
Will there be an open review for everyone that took the test to contest questions? Will they throw out questions that weren't relevant to whan an ET is responsible for?
PS - Piss poor logistics on getting test takers signed in. Doors were supposed to close at 0900, but there was still a 3/4 block line waiting to get in. Test didn't start til 0940. Afterwards, jerkoff proctor in front shooing people away that were waiting for rides claiming that "people inside [still taking the test] can hear you guys talking about the test", even though there wasn't window the first open and we were 75 feet away from the the building.
Another typical CPD clusterfuck with only the best and brightest in charge of what should have run smoothly. The convicted felon proctors at the sergeants exam were more capable than the bonestrokes trying to check people in yesterday.
Job SUXs Only for the CLOUTED
\\\Cant wait till the 10.5 Hour Madness
The Dept will be broken over the Summer
Wait for a scandal too
>>>Anonymous said...
OT: 26 people shot in Chicago over the weekend and the weather is just starting to get warm. When is the McCarthy project over? Hes been on the medical since he had the grabber anyeays. Time to make a move a get a new leader for CPD!
4/13/2015 08:38:00 AM<<<
Who would we get?
With the re-election of Rahm this once proud and effective police department is headed in the direction Rahm wants it to go.
No matter what, if Gary dropped dead Rahm would get another lackey from the outside to take over. Only this time probably a black or Hispanic.
I am now retired, when I started working James Conlisk was Superintendent and Richard J. Daley was Mayor. When I retired Gary McStreetlights had been Superintendent for some time and Rahm was in the middle of his first term. I have seen a lot of history, good bad and indifferent, but I have never seen things so generally bad.
The institutional memory has been destroyed. It would take a generation to redevelop it.
Stay Safe. Look out for each other.
I took the test in a second floor classroom. Looks like the kids had a project creating art posters depicting how our white Christian patriarchal society oppresses women. I'm glad I pay high property taxes so some leftist can barf this tripe on impressionable students.
ETs are on the 10 hour days now.
...and just think what obama's chicago democrat mob is doing to the US Military and DoD they have been running.....
Det and Sgt is the way to go. D2 pay is peanuts!
Not a cop but ex military. How come advancement is not done that way, we would have all training materials available, free for all to take exams, they were proctored, and that was it. You passed the exam wit the same study material and you were promoted. What is wrong with that process
Anonymous said...
Then you get a boss like the freak in 011 yelling at people because we are not not having fun anymore.
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Now that shit is what is funny!!!! Like the bosses really care if we are enjoying ourselves!!! Joke!!!
A patrolman better know if evidence is on a crime scene .
If he needs a Sgt to tell him that cpd is in big trouble .
What does "ET" stand for?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
ETs are on the 10 hour days now.
4/13/2015 11:57:00 AM
thanks
Judging from these HORRIFIC case report i read every day many of you are lucky to have a job.
If vacation at the Dells is your priority more power to you.
And if people signed up for test and did not take the test well then your odds should go up for that nifty promotion.
You know in your heart you never really tried so keep your family in the dark and tell them that sad story about corruption and how the test was on spring break.
Last time i checked adults don't have a spring break...
Anonymous said...
I took the test, it was written horrible.
4/13/2015 07:10:00 AM
Did you write the test because you write horrible too?
Man hearing all this makes me think I should apply to the burbs, I've only been on for about 2 years
the test scores were sent to 3711 s. halasted , patrick daley thompson will decide who gets promoted
No point in taking it. My goal is to survive to 20 years then go do something else. Last one to leave this place shut off the lights.
Husband and wife have the exact score on a previous Lts. Exam, unless they have the test and answers, the odds on that are astronomical. All legit.
holy crap people this is CHICAGO! u think this is honest?? how stupid can you all be
Another typical CPD clusterfuck with only the best and brightest in charge of what should have run smoothly. The convicted felon proctors at the sergeants exam were more capable than the bonestrokes trying to check people in yesterday.
4/13/2015 11:39:00 AM
merit rules!
Spring break, shows who is a dedicated achiever and who isn't.
The lack of skilled F/Is will bite the city and dept in the ass sooner or later. Realistically, for the typical street shooting they take a few pictures, get some shell cases but usually not enough evidence to solve the case based on physical evidence alone. That said for a heater case you need every piece of evidence which may lead to an arrest and prosecution. With a police shooting, you better get everything right or be prepared to get whipped in court both civil and criminal if an arrest is made. But as usual the dept is penny wise but pound foolish. The command staff does not care or have a clue.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Then you get a boss like the freak in 011 yelling at people because we are not not having fun anymore.
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Now that shit is what is funny!!!! Like the bosses really care if we are enjoying ourselves!!! Joke!!!
4/13/2015 12:47:00 PM
sarcasm, dude.
Not a cop but ex military. How come advancement is not done that way, we would have all training materials available, free for all to take exams, they were proctored, and that was it. You passed the exam wit the same study material and you were promoted. What is wrong with that process
4/13/2015 12:45:00 PM
Makes too much sense that way. Promoting just offif test scores alone not always promote the best potential leaders, only those that could memorize or retain the information that was required for the test.
Having said that, there also would undoubtedly be a disparity in the range of scores that would inevitably result in a racial discrimination suit by whatever individuals of color "always" seemed to score low.
The biggest problem with the promotion lists is the "fluid" usage of Merit by the bosses. I've heard that the number can be up to 30% per year.
Ten hour days is not happening...I Don't know where these rumors come from.
Anonymous said...
If everybody is That depressed, you and only you can pull yourself out of it. Get some cymblata or some lexepro to help get your heads right.
4/13/2015 06:56:00 AM
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That's a big problem. Anyone on drugs for mood stabilization is a risk to men in patrol.
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If you only knew. You probably work with someone taking these drugs and don't even know it.
This stems from the entitled me genration. Anything that requires you to do work for isn't worth the trouble. I took Bernstein did a little studying and got promoted. No secret study group or phone call. I'm sick of people just walking around complaining about this job. Most of the drama on this job is caused by other Po's. Or rumors posted on this site. This job is fairly easy and pays pretty good. Try shutting your mouth and doing your job.
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Mr. Bernstein is that you? I want my $2k back!
U didnt show up? U hate the job ? No one cares. You fucked urself. E.t makes a lot of money in court.even D 2 pays is more than ur making now . U just gave the city what they wanted. Dont cry when the eliminate vri. And ur back to ur base pay. Any promotion looks good on a resume. Dumb ass. Stay safe my friends
Now would be a fun time to release/publish that dreaded Morale Survey that's been suppressed by City Hall for the last several years...
With all the shit going on with Rahm and McHighlyPaidPantShitter and all the shit with
the Possum-Head Fed ("No National Police/Homeland Security Directorship For YOU!") and Shortshanks pulled to destroy CPD, as HRC said: "What difference does it make," that the powers that be still want to suppress an old but still relevant report on on the state of Police and Policing in this city?
Publish the damned thing already.
It's not like anyone other than The Police are going to be driven to any outrage over how meaningful public safety has been intentionally destroyed in this city anyway.
Especially after the usual piss poor quadrennial showing at the mayoral polls by the electorate which
re-installed the usual cabal of criminals, incompetents,
morons, moral bankrupts and high powered fuck-ups
to elected office.
"You Coppers are just angry and full of hate. Aren't there rules against you guys being that way? We don't like it."
Anonymous said...
This stems from the entitled me genration. Anything that requires you to do work for isn't worth the trouble. I took Bernstein did a little studying and got promoted. No secret study group or phone call. I'm sick of people just walking around complaining about this job. Most of the drama on this job is caused by other Po's. Or rumors posted on this site. This job is fairly easy and pays pretty good. Try shutting your mouth and doing your job.
4/13/2015 07:40:00 AM
You hit it right on the mark. We have too many cry babies on this job. It seems like the better the unit the higher percentage of whiners. Too many people feel they are entitled to something for doing little or no work. I too studied and got promoted. No merit, no relatives, no clout. It can be done.
$$$$$$ YOUR PENSION IS AT RISK $$
FLOP WILL DO NOTHING
GOV Ruaner is for restructuring our Pensions This is how he made his money in the private sector
Rham will laugh as he raises property taxes and Fees and out hard earned dollars go away
Funny No Politicians' Pension will be touched
We need to band together and march on Springfield
s Anonymous said...
To the 1100 that didn't bother to show up I say thank you very much. Your bitterness and laziness just made my chances go from 1 in 20 to 1 in 8. I'll enjoy my bigger salary and my bigger vri checks while you get to go on enjoying your anger. Again, thank you
Your welcome number 9.Â
Signed Happy Camper :D
4/13/2015 11:08:00 AM
You can have your new camera and your overtime...but FYI, you won't get VRI moron, unless there is supplemental openings. People like you are the problem with this department.
When I found out being an ET is nothing like CSI Miami,I said fuck it,LT Horacio Cane could solve a murder with just DNA off a shoelace and then I was told DNA takes 6 months not 1 hour,forget that,beat car for me bitches
With the city having merit as an option there is no reason the tests shouldn't be outsourced. I'm not talking Hilliard's company either.
Until all exams are conducted by outside firms, like Price, Waterhouse, Cooper, there will be no legit promotions.
Results should be sent to examinees by mail, and along with a rank order list should be posted on a secure website set up by the testing firm; viewable by all department members.
The city and flop then recieve the results via mail with the rank order list.
HR's involvement should only be that of checking eligibility to take an exam.
http://www.inquisitr.com/2007128/tulsa-deputy-who-shot-and-killed-eric-harris-charged-with-manslaughter/
Accidently pull your gun instead of your taser? Go to jail.
For all the whining not many are walking away from the job.
Remember, you can always turn down the promotion.
how many lts and capts have turned down promotions over the years, because of the political bullshit...
you'd be surprised how many POs take antidepressants. The % is much higher than you think.
Anonymous said...
If everybody is That depressed, you and only you can pull yourself out of it. Get some cymblata or some lexepro to help get your heads right.
4/13/2015 06:56:00 AM
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That's a big problem. Anyone on drugs for mood stabilization is a risk to men in patrol.
Anonymous said...
This stems from the entitled me genration. Anything that requires you to do work for isn't worth the trouble. I took Bernstein did a little studying and got promoted. No secret study group or phone call. I'm sick of people just walking around complaining about this job. Most of the drama on this job is caused by other Po's. Or rumors posted on this site. This job is fairly easy and pays pretty good. Try shutting your mouth and doing your job.
4/13/2015 07:40:00 AM
To the POS who posted this, Boss or not, you of all people should know about clout on this job. To say it doesn't exist your full of it, on the other hand like you said if you study your ass off and pass congratulations but if there is only a couple off spots open guess who's getting those spots first, you got it SOS people or clout babies. And yes the job is easy and pays good, but that doesn't mean for bosses to be total jackasses to PO's especially working PO's. As far as shutting the mouth, you have to because you got a lot of clueless and inconsiderate bosses that like to micromanage every aspect of a PO's life and the minute you speak you're mind the bosses like a little bitch CR you. So stop talking shit on this blog like you got a pair because I'm guessing you are a boss and believe me, if you didn't have that white shirt position you would be singing a different tune to any PO on the job.
And I've been around the Dept. long enough to know what the hell I'm talking about (just a little shy off 27yrs.) I rather stay anonymous because off what I said because as all you brother and sisters know some of these gutless bosses will hang you in a heart beat. FYI there still are a lot off great bosses and if you happen to have one lucky you...
That's funny, actually hilarious. Detective/Sgt. is the way to go. D2 pay is peanuts. You are so right. Making dick or sgt is SO much easier. Over 3000 take those tests. All I can say is D2 is > D1. its about 3,000-3,500 more a year.
To: 4/13/2015 09:57:00 AM
Oh Boo Hoo. You joined a Police Department, not a Office Job. We never close. This schedule gives you more days off to spend with your family or work a side job if you so wish. Whats the matter? Afraid of the dark? Got news for you, the world is pretty much 24 hours now and lots of people work nights and weekends. You must be a joy to work with in a squad car. Thank god your fellow Officers will have more days off away from you.
I wanted to be an e.t. for the longest time. It is a bump in pay but most importantly, there is a lot of court overtime. You get paid to sit on your butt. You can't beat that. But then once they went to the ten hour day I said there is no freaking way I can handle my job, court and then family and personal duties. I talked to several e.t.'s and they said the same thing. They are devastated and I decided to not apply to take the test. For those of you who want this job I wish you the best of luck.
Not a cop but ex military. How come advancement is not done that way, we would have all training materials available, free for all to take exams, they were proctored, and that was it. You passed the exam wit the same study material and you were promoted. What is wrong with that process
.....Because in ChIraq the LTs Daughter gets to work at the gym with no time on the job
I also made my call to FOP today and when the guy called me back, I told him I'm against the newly agreed to 10 hour day schedule. I was told it's the same as Area South. We disagreed and got hung up on. It wouldn't be bad if it was what Area South has but i't completely different. E.T.'s schedule blows too.
Anonymous said...
They new it was rigged!
What's next exam for tact guy.
The numbers will be moved around till the right people are in top 20.
So a few question will be thrown out then the questions will be weighted differently(google it).
Plus the day guys get the day off for the cost of the test. 1st sign of genius.
4/13/2015 08:34:00 AM
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HOLY SHIT!!!
If you don't know the difference between "new" and KNEW, you're not qualified to scrub the urinals!!!
We're fuck3d!!
OT: 26 people shot in Chicago over the weekend and the weather is just starting to get warm. When is the McCarthy project over? Hes been on the medical since he had the grabber anyeays. Time to make a move a get a new leader for CPD!
Hes not on the medical. Hes been all over the place, Rahm's victory party,news conferences
To the 1100 that didn't bother to show up I say thank you very much. Your bitterness and laziness just made my chances go from 1 in 20 to 1 in 8. I'll enjoy my bigger salary and my bigger vri checks while you get to go on enjoying your anger. Again, thank you
4/13/2015 05:21:00 AM
You have to pass the test first, kid. I can work 1 month of VRI and that will make up for ET pay for the year w/o all the bs.
I got my test result today. Looks like I did better than I thought. I scored number 2.
SEE Canine Test. The fix was in. McCarthy and his cronies are as bad as ever.
There is no reason to have an oral exam, or in the case of the Sgt. Test an essay exam. 1000 question multiple choice. Put it through a scan tron machine. Get your score immediately. Post the entire results within one hour of the completion of the exam. The end. That's what the union should insist on!!!!!!
What does "ET" stand for?
4/13/2015 01:01:00 PM
Extraterrestrial
" Time to make a move a get a new leader for CPD!
4/13/2015 08:38:00 AM<<<
Who would we get?"
Good question. Who are you going to get that would be willing to come in? You would be coming into a Department environment that is demoralized and has lost all of the people that knew how to run it. On the streets there is an out of control violence problem that are beyond police departments to solve. A workforce that is indifferent at best. Some would be willing to work if there was real leadership and administrative backing.
As the Sup, just how much control would you have? Who are you going to pick for your command staff? Of the top 15, you as Supe get 5....maybe. Everyone else is a political hack.
The Police Chief/Superintendent is the biggest fall-guy job in local government. You are like the guy that works in the dunk tank.
So, lets run that "nationwide search for the best available candidate."
U didnt show up? U hate the job ? No one cares. You fucked urself. E.t makes a lot of money in court.even D 2 pays is more than ur making now . U just gave the city what they wanted. Dont cry when the eliminate vri. And ur back to ur base pay. Any promotion looks good on a resume. Dumb ass. Stay safe my friends
You sound awesome, but I didn't show up because I simply didn't want it.
To the 1100 that didn't bother to show up I say thank you very much. Your bitterness and laziness just made my chances go from 1 in 20 to 1 in 8. I'll enjoy my bigger salary and my bigger vri checks while you get to go on enjoying your anger. Again, thank you
DON'T WORK YOUR DUM ENOUGH TO FAIL IT WITHOUT US THERE
ET IS A SHITTY JOB, and the pay is not that much extra?
There is no reason to have an oral exam, or in the case of the Sgt. Test an essay exam. 1000 question multiple choice. Put it through a scan tron machine. Get your score immediately. Post the entire results within one hour of the completion of the exam. The end. That's what the union should insist on!!!!!!
1000 questions? Can we get boxed lunches for intermission ? Never took a 1000 question test. Even in college.
Honestly I signed up and said fuck it. I have 15 years on and I would rather put my effort into doing something else after this job. I'm tired of the city and the department and the politics and the anti police everything. Love my co workers but otherwise I have mentally checked out
I agree with you 100%, and I think a lot of people on this job do too. And it's not about being a dog or a do-nothing. It's about seeing the writing on the wall. It's about just getting to the finish line so you can get your pension (what'll be left of it) and not losing your house, your job, or in a worst case scenario, your freedom. I did not take the ET test, nor the sgt test. At this point, I just don't care any more. The same clouted people making it, the fact that it's been almost 10 yrs since they gave a det's test, just about that long for sgt's, the same bs politics behind everything. It's no longer sour grapes. Like the original poster stated, "he/she just checked out". It's not fun any more. It's still a good job to have, especially in light of the economic woes of the last 5-10 yrs, but it's just not fun. Not like it used to be. my spirit has been broken.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What does "ET" stand for?
4/13/2015 01:01:00 PM
Extra Terrestrial
We meet at least one every tour of duty.
So I'm dumb..
How could the k9 test be rigged? Only 3 people from the airport made the top 10.
It's one of the things that I just could not have done while employed.
Why, were they ill-gotten?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
With the city having merit as an option there is no reason the tests shouldn't be outsourced. I'm not talking Hilliard's company either.
Until all exams are conducted by outside firms, like Price, Waterhouse, Cooper, there will be no legit promotions.
Results should be sent to examinees by mail, and along with a rank order list should be posted on a secure website set up by the testing firm; viewable by all department members.
The city and flop then recieve the results via mail with the rank order list.
HR's involvement should only be that of checking eligibility to take an exam.
4/13/2015 05:35:00 PM
You are kidding right? Ask an old timer about the tests conducted by Arthur Anderson and other "outside" companies! It's all legit......
All I can say to everyone (and I know I speak to deaf ears here) but I started my own business years back and once I hit 20 years I'm gone. It's amazing the harder I work the more $$ I make. Has nothing to do with clout either.
(You have to pass the test first, kid. I can work 1 month of VRI and that will make up for ET pay for the year w/o all the bs.
4/13/2015 09:30:00 PM)
Knew one F/I that retired with over 4000 hrs on the books, most from being in court on trials. Try to beat that money with VRI. Nothing like a $200K going away present when you pull the pin.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
There is no reason to have an oral exam, or in the case of the Sgt. Test an essay exam. 1000 question multiple choice. Put it through a scan tron machine. Get your score immediately. Post the entire results within one hour of the completion of the exam. The end. That's what the union should insist on!!!!!!
4/13/2015 10:43:00 PM
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Says the person who can't write or speak.
Knew one F/I that retired with over 4000 hrs on the books, most from being in court on trials. Try to beat that money with VRI. Nothing like a $200K going away present when you pull the pin.
4/14/2015 08:22:00 AM
You apparently forgot about federal and state income taxes.
U didnt show up? U hate the job ? No one cares. You fucked urself. E.t makes a lot of money in court.even D 2 pays is more than ur making now . U just gave the city what they wanted. Dont cry when the eliminate vri. And ur back to ur base pay. Any promotion looks good on a resume. Dumb ass. Stay safe my friends
Yeah, that's what it's all about. Wasting your fucking life away in court everyday. Nobody cares that "ur" spelling and grammar suck the big one either. How you can write the above at a less than 2nd grade level and call someone a dumb ass is laughable. I see no promotions in your future unless they are the clouted ones.
0521 your sarcasm sucks,encourage your fellow brother in uniform You may make that promotion and I hope you do but we all can't be Chiefs some have to be Indians but encourage don't discourage ,now move along and be a great boss!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
With the city having merit as an option there is no reason the tests shouldn't be outsourced. I'm not talking Hilliard's company either.
Until all exams are conducted by outside firms, like Price, Waterhouse, Cooper, there will be no legit promotions.
Results should be sent to examinees by mail, and along with a rank order list should be posted on a secure website set up by the testing firm; viewable by all department members.
The city and flop then recieve the results via mail with the rank order list.
HR's involvement should only be that of checking eligibility to take an exam.
4/13/2015 05:35:00 PM
You are kidding right? Ask an old timer about the tests conducted by Arthur Anderson and other "outside" companies! It's all legit......
4/14/2015 07:09:00 AM
I'm an old timer, the AA test was the most legit since I came on in '85. We got test results before the city, that pissed the midget off and then never again was an outside company used.
That test was the one the midget took down after 450 promotions because minorities didn't score well enough. After that is when "merit" came in.
So son, it seems you don't know what you're talking about.
HOLY SHIT!!!
If you don't know the difference between "new" and KNEW, you're not qualified to scrub the urinals!!!
We're fuck3d!!
4/13/2015 07:54:00 PM
oh jeez, so he missed the letter "k". We have all typed too fast and dropped or typed a wrong letter.
Be careful Officers, you ARE being watched.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Judging from these HORRIFIC case report i read every day many of you are lucky to have a job.
If vacation at the Dells is your priority more power to you.
And if people signed up for test and did not take the test well then your odds should go up for that nifty promotion.
You know in your heart you never really tried so keep your family in the dark and tell them that sad story about corruption and how the test was on spring break.
Last time i checked adults don't have a spring break...
4/13/2015 01:32:00 PM
Are you talking about the case reports, with an "s" that you write... And that "i" should be an "I"....
Get over yourself "boss"
Last time "I" checked, I do have spring break because my kids have spring break. I'm not a cheap bastard like you are and I enjoy time with my family and adore my children and want to see them have fun because I work for miserable people like you.
Go ahead keep that ET position, u do realize all that overtime make is not worth it when the hood is up for grabs and your there 99 processing a scene and the dangers of u getting harm or killeds just increased, good luck kid its not that great
Anonymous said...
Go ahead keep that ET position, u do realize all that overtime make is not worth it when the hood is up for grabs and your there 99 processing a scene and the dangers of u getting harm or killeds just increased, good luck kid its not that great
4/14/2015 09:08:00 PM
Money this can be mad in ET position, u to realize, is gud for to get gud educashun so fur not tu luk like moron on blog.
I was NOT allowed to take E.T. test, because the website we had to sign up on stated that I was NOT qualified!
I have been a Police Officer for 22 years, in many units!
How in the hell am I not qualified to take the stupid E.T. test?
This department and testing sucks and can't wait to retire my unqualfied ass!
Remember E.T. Mike Flisk. Trial to begin soon. Show support for our fallen brother.
To the 1100 that didn't bother to show up I say thank you very much. Your bitterness and laziness just made my chances go from 1 in 20 to 1 in 8. I'll enjoy my bigger salary and my bigger vri checks while you get to go on enjoying your anger. Again, thank you I didn't read one order and I showed up. I did eenie meanie minie and moe on most of the questions. I sure hope I get the promotion. I love overtime and court. I think hours on the books are choice too. I want to retire with thousands of hours on the books. It's going to be awesome. To the one idiot that didn't know what ET stands for, It is ExtraTerrestrial.
Not a cop but run into ridiculous tests from time to time that are supposed to show some level of competence at something.
as best I can tell the only thing they show is that the test taker was good at using the test study material to figure out the answers.
My guess would be that there are a fair number of people who are good at taking tests in all kinds of professions that could probably pass just about any test including police department tests if they used the study material and understand the structure and mechanism of typical testing.
it is mostly about getting into the mind of the test creator as much as anything.
"Just went through the whole canine test. Felt like I did great and nailed the oral. More than qualified, in return I get an awesome email with no ranking just stating I didn't do well enough to even get a ranking. They can take every "good job" here and shove it.
4/13/2015 12:52:00 AM"
Happened to me twice with the Marine Unit test. Fastest swim time, PADI Divemaste,r But no Chinaman.
And the police department recedes in memory
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To the above, you sir where never the police and glad you left the job short of 75 percent.
<ost of us don't beef about every little bull shit issue with the CPD. I been retired awhile now and still love the old job and the great expierence not to many people have in life. I thank the city for hiring me, yes Thank you my beloved city of Chicago.
I will never move from city where I was born.
Love the city or leave it sjug.
The job changed some but the mission remained the same, if you don't love your job, hit the road..Jack !!
Chicago still has the best of all, people, etc. No city comes close to this great city.
Hey, the politicians do their thing as usual, get used to it. Never will change !
SCC should get awarded a million dollars a year for all the crying he censors on his CPD' "Ann Landers." !!
More people read this blog then the Sun Times.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I took the test, it was written horrible.
4/13/2015 07:10:00 AM
Actually it was horribly written. Just like your post.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Or maybe the no-show rate was because people have kids and it was spring break and reservations were made and plane tickets were bought and this test date came on very short notice?
4/13/2015 01:08:00 AM
Maybe it's not the most glamorous job, but in today's world where cases swing on evidence like dna it is extremely important. The value of a good ET cannot be overstated. But if your important trip is so much more valuable to you than a pay raise, maybe helping put a criminal away and the added benefit to your retirement, then please....travel away.
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