Just a Quarter Million
- There is a potential settlement more than 10 years after the death of David Koschman at the hands of a member of former Mayor Richard Daley’s family.
Koschman was 21 years old back in 2004 when he was punched in the face during a bar fight. He hit his head and died 11 days later.
Daley’s nephew, Richard Vanecko, who wasn’t charged until seven years after the incident, pleaded guilty to hitting Koschman and served 60 days in jail.
Koschman’s family says there was a cover-up in the case from the very beginning all because Vanecko was connected.
The city of Chicago is reportedly set to settle the case, paying Koschman’s mother $250,000.
How about some individual liability for Vanecko? Maybe the file-hiders, too.
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posted by SCC at 1:03 AM
58 Comments:
So ghetto kid gets shot after lunging at a cop. No tril yet but the city wants to give them 5 mil. Koschman kid gets killed by Daley family and they want to give them 250k. Whats the deal with that shit ?
I guess killing pasty drunk and covering it up faced people is only 1/20th as bad as killing a knife thug?
I know what some people might say things like Walsh is a great boss and stand up guy the same with Gilger and Spanos. But they were stand up guys for the wrong reason and the wrong person, a family member of the man that put the City to near bankruptcy. A man that cared for himself and a few chosen people around him. The offender his nephew did 60 days in jail in McHenry county for his crime. The officers involved will probably end up do more or close to that much in suspension time. None of the people involved and still on the job will go any farther in their careers and came close to going to jail. Next time just say NO I won't cover up a murder.
Poor mother. Happy to see the mother fought for her son against one of the most corrupt cities in this world. Unfortunately ex-mayor daley got away with the cover up. Sad that this mother only gets $250k yet shithead gangbangers get more and their criminal backgrounds are pages long.
If I was Koschman's Mother, I'd use the money to find out who covered up her son's murder, and make their lives as miserable as I legally could. Because you know that isn't the only dirty thing they've done.
"The city of Chicago is reportedly set to settle the case, paying Koschman’s mother $250,000."
Pay out 20 times that to fambly of some now-decomposing character who went after a copper with a knife, so we hear.
How bout not paying her a dime, which the city is under zero obligation to do?
Leon Dingle Jr. and his wife, Karin Dingle, leased out a portion of a small, one-story building they owned on the West Side to UIC for storage. They collected nearly $700,000 in rent over seven years from the state university — more than twice the $310,000 they paid for the entire building, university and property records show. When the university signed the lease, Leon Dingle was treasurer of the Illinois Medical District Commission, a government agency that oversees development within a 560-acre swath of the West Side that includes the UIC hospital campus. Four years earlier, Dingle and his fellow commissioners agreed to put up a $30 million office building at 1747 W. Roosevelt that UIC is now buying on an installment contract, lawyer for this contract is PATRICK DALEY THOMPSON and Richie Daley's friends are the developlers!
Why is that these losers then finders then losers again of files and then partial finders of the files are still together and in charge of sensitive investigations, in command positions and still teaching detective classes to new detectives as well as certifying seasoned detectives. I mean they even thought it was hilarious to hide a file in the room and then find it before the end of class. Not one person held to task, they are still commanders, chiefs, a homicide lieutenant and a homicide sergeant still doing the victim, the department and the city an injustice, while boasting, laughing and never disciplined for their acts. These people were caught, their emails captured, their flagrant lies yet still they are promoted and pass their lack of respect and protocal for criminal investigations as their way of remaining clouted. DA, JS, GY and especially DW and SC you should be ashamed of yourselves. Your big bragging mouths will catch up. Put that karma in your spermatozoa club. Yeah what about that private club....we know about that too.
I cannot stand the Daley's but this is BS. Her son was a drunk with beer muscles and started a fight, oh well, stuff happens. Who among us wouldn't have punched the drunk when he came at us? The only reason he was charged was because he was a Daley and his thieving uncle tried to cover it up.
Why pay clowns anything. These fools are responsible for their own actions.
File holders will be promoted,watch.
Before it's over I think you will see two more zeros added to that bringing it closer to 25million Poor woman has been waiting on justice long enough I dont think 250k means much to her.
Apparently there really was a cover-up if the City is willing to pay anything. So why are we taxpayers left holding the bag again to protect Daley from stuttering through a deposition? The cover-up which now appears no longer to be "alleged" needs to be fully investigated with careers to be ended where necessary and Daley needs to explain what he knew and when he knew it and what he ordered done by his political hack minions.
2004...David Koschman is killed by Richard Vanecko, the nephew of Richie Daley, the then current Mayor of Chicago.
2011...Seven years later, Vanecko gets charged and pleads guilty and is sentenced to 60 days in jail.
Result....mother of victim will be given a settlement of $250,000.
2014 (Oct)....Police get a call of attempted break ins of cars at 40th Street and Karlov Avenue in the Archer Heights neighborhood. Police arrive and see Laquan McDonald standing on the sidewalk holding a knife. When ordered to drop the knife, Laquan McDonald starts to walk away. More police arrive and attempt to box him in with two squad cars. Offender then takes his knife and slashes the front tire of a squad car and damages the window. Officers exit their vehicles and attempt to disarm the offender when offender lunges at one of the officers with the knife still in hand. Offender is shot and killed.
2015 (six months later)....the city is set to give offenders mother a $5 million dollar settlement.
This is justice?
Mrs Koschman should tell the City to shove the quarter million up their ass. She should ask for what the several investigations cost and for what it cost to impanel that special grand jury. It is criminal that Dan Webb would get paid more than the mother of the dead kid.
If I were her, I would go looking for the Daley nephew with a .45
How about Daley coughs up some of the millions he stole and foots that bill. How about the coppers that pushed in the wrong direction get fired and cough up a little too.
Naw, this is Chicago. It ain't ready for reform.
What a slap in the face. $250,000! They should pay her 250 million the way they covered up the investigation. The city claims the statute of limitations expired for a civil suit. But just like mobster Harry Aleman, he was charged twice for the same crime because "double jeopardy" didn't apply because his first trial was fixed, just as the Koschman case was fixed from the beginning.
The City's obstruction liability settlement is only the first. Mind you it's only a mere $250k, much less than what the City pays out to the "estates" of deadbeat thugs.
The next phase begins with this closure and the attorneys are going to pursue the Wrongful Death action.
Monetarily, it's not over, unfortunately hiding files and lying didn't contribute to death. That's were the shame should be...no integrity, no balls and no remorse.
All whole lot of grief because of a mayor and his bully kin.
and the city is going to pay out something like $5 million to the family of a man who wanted to kill police officers....even tho no lawsuit is pending.
Vanecko will just borrow the money from our pension fund, afterall he doesn't have to pay it back.
good dicks have been taking their lumps on this. Nice to know the bosses have no problem hanging the troops out. Wouldn't it be great if just one Sgt or Lt step up for the guys who work for them and took responsibility for this pile of garbage.
F&&@ing coward bosses!
But yet they give the thugs family 5 MILLION, nothing like throwing away "our money" but yet ed Burke sits top of finance, sends out letters in support of rahm, but in the letter the city is in bad shape financially! Hey wait a minute elected treasurer hunters how about floating the "hidden billions" into what is properly due? You know like the Chicago police pension funds, where you owe 550 million!!
Why is vaneko not in jail? Some bs sentence he served what did he eat? not prison food! The elite get away with murder but sprinkle some spare change on this kids mother!
Or at the very least promote all involved or move them so Area North is rid of them
Anonymous said...
Poor mother. Happy to see the mother fought for her son against one of the most corrupt cities in this world. Unfortunately ex-mayor daley got away with the cover up. Sad that this mother only gets $250k yet shithead gangbangers get more and their criminal backgrounds are pages long.
4/12/2015 02:14:00 AM
The suit was well after the statute of limitations for such lawsuits. The mother, it seems, either believed in the system or was too timid to force the issue sooner. Sad. The detective division should hold its head in shame over this one and probably a few others.
The city is under no obligation to pay anything. This is a we are sorry for what happened now please go away settlement. her law suit was thrown out because she waited too long to file. Regardless of what all you geniuses out there think regarding a cover up, the truth is no one ID'd Daley's nephew. The nephew refused to talk, no other evidence exists. How could the criminal case go any farther
If this happened to your son I don't believe anyone would say that the investigation was thorough and lawful. It was a cover up at all levels, and all those who participated for an anticipated "reward" later on have blood on their hands. No money can remove the blood from the stained hands of those who are culpable . May you seek forgiveness from the Lord because nothing else will remove the guilt you all bear.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Apparently there really was a cover-up if the City is willing to pay anything. So why are we taxpayers left holding the bag again to protect Daley from stuttering through a deposition? The cover-up which now appears no longer to be "alleged" needs to be fully investigated with careers to be ended where necessary and Daley needs to explain what he knew and when he knew it and what he ordered done by his political hack minions.
4/12/2015 08:52:00 AM
It's entirely possible Daley didn't know a thing about this while it was happening.
People who are loyal to a politician, for whatever reasons, know that part of the payback is to protect that politician and their family as best they can.
When this hit the fan, the word went out fast that a Daley relative was involved. So, unless a wire was up at the time, you'll never be able to prove he knew anything.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Leon Dingle Jr. and his wife, Karin Dingle, leased out a portion of a small, one-story building they owned on the West Side to UIC for storage. They collected nearly $700,000 in rent over seven years from the state university — more than twice the $310,000 they paid for the entire building, university and property records show. When the university signed the lease, Leon Dingle was treasurer of the Illinois Medical District Commission, a government agency that oversees development within a 560-acre swath of the West Side that includes the UIC hospital campus. Four years earlier, Dingle and his fellow commissioners agreed to put up a $30 million office building at 1747 W. Roosevelt that UIC is now buying on an installment contract, lawyer for this contract is PATRICK DALEY THOMPSON and Richie Daley's friends are the developlers!
4/12/2015 06:27:00 AM
Newly-minted Alderman Patrick DALEY Thompson? Oh, please let this be true, so we can be rid of yet another Daley scourge.
millions for worthless thugs, and 250K for the mom of a kid killed?...and, no retribution, no accountability, no indictments, no demotions for those responsible for the coverup?...outrageous, unacceptable, immoral...
$250,000 for the Mom..by the time she pays the attorney's...she won't have much left...the city should pay her as much as that Kid slashing tires and refusing to put the knife down. He and her son are both dead.
I hope she doesn't need the money that badly.
To the poster at 7:15:00, the Koschman kid was NOT drunk with beer muscles!All witnesses stated he had his hands up, palms out, defensive position, apologizing. Vanecko cold cocked him from behind. You and yor family should stay off the blog and go back to sucking off the Daleys.
mike the city worker
12/2015 02:18:00 AM
I hope your police career will one day allow you to have such an investigation.
Only them will you understand how difficult it is to get anyone charged with any felony in cook county.
Then, as you are sitting in your neighborhood bar, pleading your case, you can have young officers with no experience accuse you of taking part in a conspiracy
It's a great feeling... I hope you will experience it as well
250k
it should be 250 million, and all the Daley cover ups should be sent to prison.
Clearly a case involving Manslaughter, covering up and tampering with Evidence, corruption , nepotism, inter-Agency collusion, and Obstruction of Justice. The Chicago PD, City of Chicago, Crook County, and Feds, and News Media, at their finest. No wonder people have no faith in Law Enforcement or Media at all anymore. Exactly what would have happened in the old Communist USSR, if a Czars relative was involved. Investigative Journalism, Federal Investigative competence in Chicago. Fuckin Joke
good dicks have been taking their lumps on this. Nice to know the bosses have no problem hanging the troops out. Wouldn't it be great if just one Sgt or Lt step up for the guys who work for them and took responsibility for this pile of garbage.
F&&@ing coward bosses!
4/12/2015 10:53:00 AM
not one white shirt from SOS got indicted.
I cannot stand the Daley's but this is BS. Her son was a drunk with beer muscles and started a fight, oh well, stuff happens. Who among us wouldn't have punched the drunk when he came at us? The only reason he was charged was because he was a Daley and his thieving uncle tried to cover it up.
4/12/2015 07:15:00 AM
Major assumption. So if a little drunk guy starts an argument with you, and you are also drunk, and 3 times his size, you can just bash his brains in? Not walk away? Not call the cops or security on your cellphone? Gee, you're really rational. You must be a CPD-Daley Tool too.
I'm still waiting for the results of the IAD investigation.
Fox News, Megyn Kelly, run in with this story in near future. Stay tuned
Anonymous said...
Vanecko will just borrow the money from our pension fund, afterall he doesn't have to pay it back.
4/12/2015 10:40:00 AM
That was a different Vanecko. Brother of the killer Vanecko.
That settlement is a slap in the face.
Mrs Koschman should tell the City to shove the quarter million up their ass. She should ask for what the several investigations cost and for what it cost to impanel that special grand jury. It is criminal that Dan Webb would get paid more than the mother of the dead kid.
If I were her, I would go looking for the Daley nephew with a .45
4/12/2015 09:36:00 AM
She ought to go after Shortshanks personally.
There's little doubt he was the puppet master pulling the strings in the coverup.
Shanks is now collecting 3 government pensions, has several 6 figure jobs, gets drivers and a city car.
Files? What files? Nothing to see here. Move along.
Whoever covered up anything is a coward piece of trash that doesn't deserve to carry our star.
WOW!!! And give the family's of shitheads who are guilty millions!
None of the people involved and still on the job will go any farther in their careers and came close to going to jail.
Last time I checked, Dean Andrews was still a Deputy Chief, contributing towards a hefty pension. Denis Walsh is still a Lieutenant as well. And both are...get this...STILL EMPLOYED by the CPD after a lengthy report that listed a lot of shameful behavior on the parts of both of them. And that's just the two bosses who are still active!
The kid is dead.
So are lots of other people.
Many forget why some bosses are stand up GUYS.
These stand up people want to get along with everyone. No waves...
If you make no waves you have NO one looking at what your doing wrong.
Kinda like a former SGT who was head of the SGT union.
So we need to not be as naive like the children molested by priest.
Just gimme my retro!
Walsh was an awesome Boss in 018. Everybody that bitches about DW either doesn't know him, couldn't ID him, or are piling on.
I was working w/a dude that NEVER met DW and told me "that guys an asshole I heard." My response was I think he is self conscious about having red hair and being short.
Amazing that some one can toss shit on a Boss they never even met. DW cared about the watch, the Coppers that were part of it, and if U stepped on U'r dick there was nobody like DW to put the fire out w/out so much as a bitch out.
Ever watch the Movie Chinatown with Jack Nicholson?
"Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown."
Same applies to Chicago.
Nothing to see here.
As for ALL the CPD who covered it up - you can't blame them.
"They were just following orders."
Where have we heard that before?
A quarter million here...
...a quarter million there.
Pretty soon you're talking about serious money.
Similar to a quote from former Senator Everett McKinley Dirksen (R/IL)
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I cannot stand the Daley's but this is BS. Her son was a drunk with beer muscles and started a fight, oh well, stuff happens. Who among us wouldn't have punched the drunk when he came at us? The only reason he was charged was because he was a Daley and his thieving uncle tried to cover it up.
4/12/2015 07:15:00 AM
Major assumption. So if a little drunk guy starts an argument with you, and you are also drunk, and 3 times his size, you can just bash his brains in? Not walk away? Not call the cops or security on your cellphone? Gee, you're really rational. You must be a CPD-Daley Tool too.
4/12/2015 06:14:00 PM
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You can punch him in the nose. Yes you can.
Major assumption. So if a little drunk guy starts an argument with you, and you are also drunk, and 3 times his size, you can just bash his brains in? Not walk away? Not call the cops or security on your cellphone? Gee, you're really rational. You must be a CPD-Daley Tool too.
4/12/2015 06:14:00 PM
I agree with you. There was no evidence that the little kid even threw a punch, just had a loud mouth.Everyone on Venecko side lied and ran away. If this incident happened in other areas it would have cost the killer 5 years in the slammer. This investigation was shabby at the very least . Detectives? Really?
Anonymous said...
I cannot stand the Daley's but this is BS. Her son was a drunk with beer muscles and started a fight, oh well, stuff happens. Who among us wouldn't have punched the drunk when he came at us? The only reason he was charged was because he was a Daley and his thieving uncle tried to cover it up.
4/12/2015 07:15:00 AM
That is precisely what happened and the kid had the misfortune of doing it to one of the most notorious sucker punchers on rush street.
As City Hall settles a conspiracy lawsuit filed by David Koschman’s mother, Chicago’s inspector general is fighting two police unions over the discipline of officers who botched Koschman’s homicide case and failed to charge a nephew of former Mayor Richard M. Daley.
Mayor Rahm Emanuel has directed Inspector General Joseph Ferguson to advise police Supt. Garry McCarthy about which cops should be disciplined in the 11-year-old case. But the unions representing police sergeants and lieutenants argue that only the department’s internal affairs division can investigate police officers.
“There is a pending challenge . . . over the inspector general’s authority over disciplinary action,” city Corporation Counsel Stephen Patton said Monday after outlining the $250,000 settlement for Nanci Koschman to the City Council Finance Committee. The full council is expected to approve the deal Wednesday.
http://chicago.suntimes.com/chicago-politics/7/71/516205/chicago-police-unions-fight-inspector-general-koschman-settlement-moves-forward
Walsh was an awesome Boss in 018. Everybody that bitches about DW either doesn't know him, couldn't ID him, or are piling on.
I was working w/a dude that NEVER met DW and told me "that guys an asshole I heard." My response was I think he is self conscious about having red hair and being short.
Amazing that some one can toss shit on a Boss they never even met. DW cared about the watch, the Coppers that were part of it, and if U stepped on U'r dick there was nobody like DW to put the fire out w/out so much as a bitch out.
4/13/2015 12:19:00 AM
Yep. That's the guy I want in charge of my police officers. Screw up and he covers up without so much as a good talking to. What could go wrong there?
He is paid to do a job. He should do it, but I am glad you like him. That is important to all of us tax payers.
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