Wednesday, July 15, 2015

Chase? Pursuit? (UPDATE)

So the Tribune or someone else has scanner tapes regarding the death of the child in a stroller. We listened to them all, then promptly lost the link, but we're sure someone will post it in the comments. It appears that an off-duty Department of Aviation officer witnessed the shooting and was following the car as it fled the scene, calling it in to 911 and attempting to get CPD to respond to his location.There was a description broadcast and the time between the actual shooting and the crash appears to be lengthy.

So what constitutes a chase exactly? Merely being given a description of a vehicle and a last known location isn't a "chase" by any stretch. The lag time between the off-duty giving his location and it getting out to the units can be seconds or tens-of-seconds or minutes.

One of the audio clips has a portion of what may well turn out to be a pursuit, but the entire clip is over in seconds, with almost no time at all for a termination order to be determined and issued, given the severity of the crime and the "balancing test" to be applied.

Are we rapidly approaching the point where even a murderer is safe to flee the police because the danger to anyone outweighs the chance we might actually catch a criminal? This is the "balancing" we're supposed to administer - the ultimate crime (first degree murder) is just another report to be cut and no one is to be chased for any reason whatsoever?

The clearance rate of 30% will drop to 10% overnight. You will literally, be able to get away with murder, just by being in a car.

Here's the link to all the scanner audio. As you can see, they splice it together from a number of different zones and cut 20 minutes down to mere seconds.

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71 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not surprised. This is what Society wants...Until it happens to them or to someone they care about..Then they want Old School Law Enforcement to kick ass and make arrests...

7/15/2015 01:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I remember a knucklehead back in the day always teasing kids to chase him... well one day he got his chase, and ran smack into the 2 inch width side of a door as it was opening-- splitting his head open, letting the dark blood leak out.

ever since then, I think twice to chase.

7/15/2015 01:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is motorized pursuit worth the extra loss of life and injury? The answer is no. Foot pursuit is OK, motorized pursuit is too great a risk to the general civil population.

7/15/2015 01:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Car? Oh no you don't! Our progressive masters have determined that the lowly peons are on bikes or foot. Your carbon footprint, don't you know?

These assholes are afraid of their own shadows and they want us to be. Until that is, one of theirs gets kilted. Then presto chango! Nearly instant law and order supporter.

7/15/2015 02:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

**** Off Topic ****

Wanted to give a big thanks to the 011 guy or gal who sent me my lost mover book in the departmental mail. I'd call and thank you personally but I don't know who you are. You saved me a big headache. Thanks!

7/15/2015 02:13:00 AM  
Anonymous The Neanderthal said...

Chase? Pursuit?

Here, a paean to "The Poet Laureate Of The Chicago Police Department," as he has been here described. U-turn, tire smoke, skittering for traction on the humid/wet street as he tries to catch up with the e/b Belmont bus whose driver was just waving out the window...on a sticky summer night...this one's for you, BCP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD_DyoB4Cjs

..and, after he checks off, a stop at the Lido to unlax.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umoHZbKnUW4

Hope I got those right. Love ya, guy.

Summertime!

7/15/2015 03:49:00 AM  
Anonymous The Guy Carrying A Squeeze Bottle Of White Shoe Polish said...

"You will literally, be able to get away with murder, just by being in a car." -- SCC

Car? Why? Just by being in Nikes, and no need to lace 'em.

7/15/2015 03:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why The FUNk Do we Have an UnArmed Aviation Police???????


Ha guess they'll just Stare Down the Terrorists or Tell them they are CLOUTED



7/15/2015 05:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Masters Masters Masters

... The Next SUPT of CPD Mikey Back Like Chucky


... That Means Ray Ray Hamilton comes back


... And you thought McJersey was bad HA

7/15/2015 05:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Done, and done

7/15/2015 06:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who cares in the ghetto! Let them do what they do! Have you learned nothing?

7/15/2015 06:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Gardner estate got 5.6 million dollar judgement as a result of meeting his creator. In this scenario the 1 year old baby killed as a result of police work merits another judgement. There are a different set of values in each set. The bad guy is starting to win!

7/15/2015 06:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unbelievable that a police chase (not referring to this case specifically) is frowned upon due to a fucking criminal. What happened to cops going after the bad guys?
This town really makes me wonder if the world is indeed coming to an end.

--No Cop Here

7/15/2015 07:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"no snitch" rules, gangs, murders, no $, schools suck, police suck, what a hell hole the ghetto is, and getting worse. GL getting a copper to help you ungrateful POSs. they will try and ruin the rest of the city while they are at it.

7/15/2015 07:07:00 AM  
Blogger SpankDaddy said...

The off-duty acted correctly. Place the blame on the driver/shooter.

7/15/2015 07:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They hate your blog and we're talking shit about it on Twitter. I wish there was a way for you to block the reporters, since they clearly read it. They said they were sickened by your last post about this incident. Yet they probably check it every day to get story ideas.

7/15/2015 07:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sounds just like what we ask our soldiers to do in afghanistan or iraq??

7/15/2015 07:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who stopped the car? Was it ever stopped as reported? Was it the aviation officer?

7/15/2015 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, everything is the fault of the police. And, if the family needs money to ease their woes, the city has deep pockets.

7/15/2015 08:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vehicle initially pulls over then takes off. Officer goes after with siren in the background. Seconds later officer asks for an ambulance for the child. Too short in duration. Not a pursuit. How many times has it taken blocks for a drunk to even know a squad was behind them with full lights and siren? Thats not a pursuit either.

7/15/2015 08:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ban cars

7/15/2015 08:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT:

(Reuters) - A federal judge on Tuesday dismissed four counts in the wrongful-death lawsuit against Ferguson filed by the parents of Michael Brown, the unarmed black teenager shot dead last August by a white police officer, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported.
The judge said two counts of the lawsuit can stand for now, but may fall later because Brown's parents may not be able to make those claims for Brown, who was 18 years old and an adult when he was fatally shot, the newspaper said.

Among the four counts that were dismissed, two were not in dispute, U.S. District Judge E. Richard Webber said, as they addressed claims related to state civil rights, the Post-Dispatch reported.

Two other counts related to claims against former Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson and former Police Officer Darren Wilson were also dismissed after Webber deemed them "redundant," the Post-Dispatch said.

Brown's family filed the lawsuit against the city of Ferguson, Missouri in April. The shooting triggered national outcry over excessive force by police against minorities.

In the lawsuit, the family sought $75,000 in compensation and unspecified punitive damages. It also called for a court order prohibiting the use of police techniques "that demean, disregard, or underserve its African-American population."
--

No mo' disrespectin, you know?

7/15/2015 08:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The recorded scanner audio snippets Tribune used in their article http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-scanner-audio-how-police-responded-to-13-month-old-killed-in-stroller-20150713-htmlstory.html came from http://www.broadcastify.com/premium/ The entire event's recorded audio is accessable if one registers with RadioReference.com http://register.radioreference.com/ then pays a premium subscription fee.

7/15/2015 08:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anything APD touches goes to shit

7/15/2015 09:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im not risking my life chasing a car unless a PO was shot

7/15/2015 09:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, all the rates will drop because there are chases every night of homicide offenders..... Last time a chase of a homicide offender happened for a case I was working? About 4 years ago. It's not common, especially when everyone these days just responds directly to the person shot to see the body and stand around with a rifle... God forbid touring the area for the offenders... Brutal

7/15/2015 09:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Disability Dean doesn't talk to his members, but he talks to this obscure newsletter...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFPvx3O-eh4&feature=youtu.be

7/15/2015 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ot, but important.

Does anyone have the number for the copper who does new roofs? I've seen fliers in the station in the past, but haven't seen any lately. Thanks.

7/15/2015 09:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I heard this story I was sickened, the loss of this innocent,beautiful child is heartbreaking and an unbelievable tragedy. Eventually after the initial grief and sorrow the blame game will begin and unfortunately those sworn to protect us will be the fall guy instead of those who choose to break the law. There will be no mention of the criminal mentality that thrives in black neighborhoods and is even rewarded in the cases of Eric Garner,Michael Brown and on and on. Only when the community chooses to say enough is enough will this behavior cease and it isn't anywhere close to happening. Remember this baby in your prayers and the next innocent child which is inevitable.

7/15/2015 10:01:00 AM  
Blogger Cuthbert J. Twillie said...

I've searched and searched and I can't even find the article in the Trib that had all the audio clips. The article might have been behind the Pay Wall anyway.

I did read the article yesterday and listened to all the audio clips. What I got was that the off duty Dept of Aviation Officer was *Following* the suspect's car, NOT *chasing* it. And no CPD squad was in a 'chase' either.

Also, as sure as Sprig follows Winter, there were the STOO-PID comments by the usual suspect libtards :
---- a) There was a 'chase'
---- b) Police should NEVER chase any suspect. Yep they said "any" suspect and "Never".
---- c) The accident & baby's death was the fault of the CPD for 'chasing' the killers.

There's a handful of these Anti-Cop Moonbats who always post comments on Trib articles. They are truly vile f--king creatures.

7/15/2015 10:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is further continuation of the ridiculous mindset that the police are to blame for EVERYTHING.

7/15/2015 10:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are we rapidly approaching the point where even a murderer is safe to flee the police because the danger to anyone outweighs the chance we might actually catch a criminal?

In a word, "Yes".

7/15/2015 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The clearance rate counts old homicides from other years in the current totals solved.

Clearances can also be for offenders who are never proven they are the offender but end up dead from another incident.

The City throwing those Detective to the wolves(posting OT) just because they are doing what the city wants Homicides cleared NOT solved. The lock up are empty and interviews are few and rare. States attorneys wanting confession that make sense and clear surveillance video. My favorite part is the supervisor in the "D" who are clouted in from patrol who have no idea what going on but run to the "xo" to fill them in how they are solving the current heater case.

OH WELL BACK TO NETFLIX'S...

7/15/2015 10:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Read the vehicle pursuit general order. You the patrol officer has to conduct the "balancing test" while engaging in a vehicle pursuit. Plus, all of our actions have to be "reasonable". That is a pretty tall order. The city can simply blame you for anything that goes wrong and say you did not conduct the "balancing test" or was not "reasonable". I am in favor of doing my job and doing good old fashioned police work. But how can I do my job if my own general orders make me the fall guy whenever something goes wrong? Some may say I am scared to do my job. But that is not sensible. As police officers we are restrained from doing our jobs in a sensible manner with all of these crazy rules, orders, laws, etc. Common sense and logic is thrown away in favor of passing the buck. In the end who suffers? The people who work like dogs, try to save money here and there and the decent person.

7/15/2015 11:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chases? Arrests? No no no no. They don't want anything like that. Just contact cards. Bring in more contact cards.

7/15/2015 11:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On a week that N.Y. Is trying to reward an individual for antisocial behavior, we see its evil byproduct.I blame this death on the culture of Michael Brown,Eric Garner and Father Phleger etc that victimize and condone violent savagery.

7/15/2015 11:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MASTERS MASTERS MASTERS? replacing GMAC? Interesting concept, but my money would be on Smokey da Bear Schmitz coming back to be the Stupe.

7/15/2015 01:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
The clearance rate counts old homicides from other years in the current totals solved.

Clearances can also be for offenders who are never proven they are the offender but end up dead from another incident.

The City throwing those Detective to the wolves(posting OT) just because they are doing what the city wants Homicides cleared NOT solved. The lock up are empty and interviews are few and rare. States attorneys wanting confession that make sense and clear surveillance video. My favorite part is the supervisor in the "D" who are clouted in from patrol who have no idea what going on but run to the "xo" to fill them in how they are solving the current heater case.

OH WELL BACK TO NETFLIX'S...

7/15/2015 10:46:00 AM

Ex Cl Closed cases go through a full administrative review before they are allowed to be cleared on homicide cases.

7/15/2015 01:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Reference no chase period....
Not worth the ending....
I get that, I really do ! Lawsuit etc....
Full fault to the shxtbum sad a jury in civil case can't grasp that because
Our SOPs created that zone of hmmm maybe the police should not have
Chased that shxtbum for that "reported " horrible incident..rewrite your
SOP's
Aid call......not walking get there !


7/15/2015 01:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT --

EXCLUSIVE: Marilyn Mosby's police officer family members used cocaine, fired from force

Boy, is this a story. Remember how Baltimore rock performer, fashion model, and inexperienced prosecutor Marilyn Mosby kept rubbing her "police family" in everyone's face? Keystone Kops, man. Cocaine use, lost guns, neglect of duty, conduct unbecoming an officer, not reporting for duty, inaccurate reports, unreasonable judgment -- a slapstick comedy of suspensions and firings, one after another.

Claiming that the dope came from some mysterious "vapors." What a bunch of stumblebums.

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/29547831/exclusive-marilyn-mosby-police-family-members

7/15/2015 02:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Realty Check Services LLC said...

No one made the offender shoot someone, drive like crazy up the sidewalk, and flatten a baby in a stroller. Entirely his decision.

7/15/2015 02:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can connect the dots of this death to the feet of Twisted ideologies of Sharpton,Jackson, Michael Brown and the fools in Baltimore. Until they look in the mirror the cycle of evil will continue.

7/15/2015 02:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous The Neanderthal said...
"Chase? Pursuit?

Here, a paean to "The Poet Laureate Of The Chicago Police Department," as he has been here described. U-turn, tire smoke, skittering for traction on the humid/wet street as he tries to catch up with the e/b Belmont bus whose driver was just waving out the window...on a sticky summer night...this one's for you, BCP..."

7/15/2015 03:49:00 AM

Yup!
You just about nailed it Mistuh Neanderthal ;^)

Hmmm...
Didn't get to do too much Special Enjoyment
north of Madison but it was a relief somewhat from
the usual hardheadedness on #34...

Coming out of the "Bat Cave" at Peshtigo Ct. for a bus
disturbance "standing s/b at one-fifteen hundred Michigan,
no units in 005 available and yes, you're coming from
Downtown..."

Tuck the Rocket Chevy ('94 to '96 Caprice 9c1
with the detuned but still formidable Corvette engine)
in the far left lane at 31st & the Ryan for a easy buck
twenty...

Summertime somewhere back in our long ago...
A few left who know that nostalgic feeling.

Just sitting back enjoying a ration of "liquid bread"
and watching the world go by...

Simple is best.
-Cheers-

Watch y'allself out there.

7/15/2015 02:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city can simply blame you for anything that goes wrong and say you did not conduct the "balancing test" or was not "reasonable".


Correct ! The orders are written to exculpate the city from liability. Easier than spending the money to properly train, equip, promote and supervise the thinning blue line. Cost of doing business

7/15/2015 03:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vehicle initially pulls over then takes off. Officer goes after with siren in the background. Seconds later officer asks for an ambulance for the child. Too short in duration. Not a pursuit. How many times has it taken blocks for a drunk to even know a squad was behind them with full lights and siren? Thats not a pursuit either.

7/15/2015 08:18:00 AM


@@@@@@@@

Sorry but the shy came on the air asking why chasing. 27 seconds later the crash happens. Guy from 004 on the air with dispatcher for 36 seconds giving updates about the chase on zone 7. 461b says squad 3rd district is chasing the car on zone 7. If the car takes off from a Traffic stop and the squad car drives one foot even with the lights or sirens on in an attempt to view, stop or follow that vehicle it is 100 percent a pursuit. The radio tapes are the killer here. It was a pursuit. They will get paid as they should. However, I don't fault the officers or supervisors here... It was a carload of offenders wanted for homicide.... The chase is legit.. But don't try to say it's not a pursuit. It was a pursuit and it was a lawful pursuit and a pursuit that conformed to general orders so stop freaking out. You don't have to hide that it was a pursuit because it was.. If it's a legit reason then it's a legit reason.. End of story. Extremely tragic ending but the officers are covered if it was made into a pursuit and everything was articulated as it should have been

7/15/2015 03:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT --

Now HERE'S a letter from an FOP chapter with some stones. Louisville, Kentucky.

"To the criminal element in our community-we do not fear you. We are not your punching bag and we will not simply stand by and accept your verbal or physical assaults. No matter what craziness occurs, we will always protect our citizens and ourselves. No matter how weak our criminal justice system, we will hunt you down again and again until they put you away or you go away. No matter how weak our policies we will find a way to make you understand that Louisville isn’t where you want to live. Most importantly, though, take note of the following: If you actively resist or assault us, we will use every option available to take you into custody. If you use deadly force against us or use or attempt to use a dangerous instrument or deadly weapon against us, we will use deadly force against you and we WILL stop the threat to us, our fellow officers or the citizens we serve."

"On behalf of the members of RCFOP Lodge 614,

"Dave Mutchler

"President

"River City Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 614"

Entire press release at --

http://www.scribd.com/doc/269088451/Press-Release-River-City-FOP-Lodge-614

There is still an America -- just not around here. Rahm.

7/15/2015 03:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Revolversaurus (ret) said...

Balance and reasonability are the city's and CPD's plausable deniability. They can say that chases are allowed but make the restrictions so tight as to render it moot. With ALL the onus on the chasing officer they insulate themselves from responsibility at the expense of an officers employment and possible freedom. Work hard at your own risk. Remember: 99% right is 100% wrong!

7/15/2015 03:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As soon as some VIP's kid gets kidnapped, and the pursuit called off, then this policy will change.

7/15/2015 03:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Is motorized pursuit worth the extra loss of life and injury? The answer is no. Foot pursuit is OK, motorized pursuit is too great a risk to the general civil population.

7/15/2015 01:37:00 AM
I have to agree, that in most circumstances you are correct. The loss of innocent lives is just not worth it.

7/15/2015 04:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Why The FUNk Do we Have an UnArmed Aviation Police???????


Ha guess they'll just Stare Down the Terrorists or Tell them they are CLOUTED





7/15/2015 05:30:00 AM
The Aviation Police, are in fact the police under Illinois law and can carry weapons on and off duty. However, Daley prohibited this during his term and it seems that it continues. I have had some contact with them while working at the airport and I can say that some are retired CPD, but others are just clouted and not someone you would like to see carry a gun. Nothing more then security guards.The same goes for the Cook County Hospital police. Just more patronage jobs.

7/15/2015 04:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said: Why The FUNk Do we Have an UnArmed Aviation Police??????? Thank Mayor
9 1/2, Retired CPD Oficers need the extra income. Need Insurance . We have to qualify every year with our weapon (state law) But the Bosses believe the passengers would be
afraid if the were to see so many PO's with weapons, Unarmed they can't tell us from Security, and the believe O'Hare IS SAFE. Chief Mauer tried to change that and got fired
on what we all believe was a lie.
Retired 015

7/15/2015 04:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On a week that N.Y. Is trying to reward an individual for antisocial behavior, we see its evil byproduct.I blame this death on the culture of Michael Brown,Eric Garner and Father Phleger etc that victimize and condone violent savagery.

7/15/2015 11:49:00 AM

5 million dollars they gave this parasite's family. He already cost the good citizens of New York 5 million dollars. He deserved a paupers grave and a bill to the family. This country is so up side down it will never be righted.

7/15/2015 04:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT...Well in case anyone missed it..Obama said in a speech last night that felons should be allowed to vote..this on the heals of him releasing 46 felons and writing a letter to each one of them personally..Obama exchanged 6 terrorists for a deserter and let one of our own soldiers languish in a Mexican jail for almost a year.And make no mistake he is only just beginning. .hes coming after your retirement..your 401k..your pension. He's federalizing more land in the west than any president in history.People think because you can get in your car and drive to a movie that you are free..that is not feeedom..we are officially living in tyranny.

7/15/2015 05:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought the public wanted us to go after the "murders and rapists"?

7/15/2015 05:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The 'blame game' immediately starts when the incorrect label, 'Police Chase' is used.
If they indicated the proper description...
Fleeing Felon
Reckless Driving Offender
Extremely Desperate Driver
Narcotics/Liquor laden vehicle operator etc. it then places the omen on the correct offender, the 'driver' fleeing, speeding, reckless, disobeying regulations and NOT on the police arriving and attempting to follow, observe or culminate these actions.
But then again who are the bottom feeders gonna sue, the real offender?
Hand those crickets another OT slip.

7/15/2015 06:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
They hate your blog and we're talking shit about it on Twitter. I wish there was a way for you to block the reporters, since they clearly read it. They said they were sickened by your last post about this incident. Yet they probably check it every day to get story ideas.

7/15/2015 07:27:00 AM

DAMN!
WTF do these ignorant m/fers want?

They've gotten the respond, report, oversee the body removal,
call for a sidewalk hose-down and roll to the next shooting Police
they've always wanted...

We can't do shit more for these people!

And they're pissed about The Police actively trying to
protect themselves from them.

What happens when nobody wants to be the whipping boy?

7/15/2015 07:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why The FUNk Do we Have an UnArmed Aviation Police???????

Ha guess they'll just Stare Down the Terrorists or Tell them they are CLOUTED
7/15/2015 05:30:00 AM

You can thank Daley. He thought armed police in the airports looked too intimidating.

Every time I go to Europe, I feel much safer in the airport than I do stateside, thanks to armed police everywhere.

7/15/2015 07:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT --

Twentieth anniversary of our deadly 1995 heat wave, which killed over 700 people. Bad time, bad memories.

...and then there was idiot Daley.

"It’s hot. It’s very hot. Yesterday we broke records. We all have our little problems, but let’s not blow it out of proportion. It is a crisis. It’s hot out there. We all walk out there. It’s very, very, very hot. It’s like getting heavy snow. It’s like getting real cold weather. Yes, we go to extremes in Chicago. And that’s why people love Chicago. We go to extremes."

"Late Saturday morning, [July 15] while the mayor vacationed at his summer home in Grand Beach, Michigan, health department officials declared a citywide heat emergency. Before long, all of the city’s 56 ambulances and 600 paramedics were pressed into service. The number of emergency rooms that were no longer admitting people jumped to at least 16. At the Cook County morgue, four blocks from the old Cook County Hospital building on West Harrison Street, a cavalcade of police vehicles and ambulances delivered one corpse after another. Not since American Airlines Flight 191 crashed at O’Hare in May 1979 had the morgue been so busy. By the end of the day, the death toll would reach 269..."

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/July-2015/1995-Chicago-heat-wave/

7/15/2015 07:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about Johnny Law holds the shitbag who is driving the vehicle and not the police officer responsible for loss of life or damage.

7/15/2015 08:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The clearance rate of 30% will drop to 10% overnight. You will literally, be able to get away with murder, just by being in a car."

Whoa ! Careful SCC....such firm language could be construed as excessive force. And remember: THE FOX IS WATCHING THE OUTHOUSE....I mean THE HENS ARE WATCHING THE BATH HOUSE... or something.

7/15/2015 11:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3:14pm

Wow you're gullible.

If the media has the audio tapes then why are they splicing them to fit their narrative?

Why not play the one continuous tape from zone 7?

So two tact guys from 004 make a comment that they believe it's a chase because they are listening to the zone? They were not on scene. When officers are under stress they are very hard to understand and and the tact guys from 004 may have misinterpreted what was going on. However, the guys in 004 will now know first hand that everything they said they will be questioned, deposed and cross examined.

You give the media too much credit. They are master manipulators and masters of telling only part of the story as is demonstrated here jumping from tape to tape.

7/16/2015 01:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They will get paid as they should. However, I don't fault the officers or supervisors here... It was a carload of offenders wanted for homicide.... The chase is legit.. But don't try to say it's not a pursuit. It was a pursuit and it was a lawful pursuit and a pursuit that conformed to general orders so stop freaking out. You don't have to hide that it was a pursuit because it was.. If it's a legit reason then it's a legit reason.. End of story. Extremely tragic ending but the officers are covered if it was made into a pursuit and everything was articulated as it should have been

7/15/2015 03:14:00 PM

They "should" get paid? Why? Tragic, yes, but why do they get paid here? I miss the reason why they get paid taxpayer money because some piece of shit ran down their child.

The police did nothing wrong. You get that right? Stop giving away our money because you feel sorry for someone.

7/16/2015 05:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Just an average Joe said...

3:14 on 15July

I agree they should get paid but why should the City pay? The Officers did nothing wrong. They didn't shoot anyone, hold a gun too anyones head and say run away. They were doing their jobs in a lawful manner. The people that should pay are the criminals that shot the other thug in the first place and then took off and caused the police to pursue them.

7/16/2015 06:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city can simply blame you for anything that goes wrong and say you did not conduct the "balancing test" or was not "reasonable".

Then you could face this scenario: You make a traffic stop. The motorist waits until you exit your vehicle and then takes off. You already ran the plate and it comes back clear so..........having a minor traffic stop and a vehicle coming back clear you use the coveted "balancing test" and decide there is no "reasonable" reason to pursue.

19-p


However, 10 mins later, you hear a call of a pedestrian struck by a speeding vehicle. You find out that it was the same car you pulled over but took off on you.

When you get home, you turn on the news and see a story of a man that was a victim of a hit and run. You also watch as an eyewitness tells the reporter he had seen the same vehicle before the accident, stopped by the CPD and they did nothing! They allowed this motorist to go free, resulting in the near tragic death of a citizen.


Good luck explaining the balance test when you are sitting in court facing that 5 million dollar lawsuit.

7/16/2015 09:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the poster regarding the unarmed Aviation Police:
Please thank the clown who has had bodyguards all his life - Richie Daley.
Please thank the imbecile who would not issue a letter certifying your years of service in order to carry after retirement.
Please thank the thief who sold assets such as the Skyway or parking meters - Shortshanks.
Please thank the globetrotting weasel who got the idea of bike lanes from Europe -'but he never noticed the young, physically fit, well armed officers guarding the airport. The excuse to disarm the Aviation Police was that it would "intimate travelers" when the real reason was that Daley did not want a creation of Harold Washington to survive. However, the FAA had help set up the Aviation PD - so he had to keep them or repay the FAA . Every time I'm at O'Hare I'd like to rename Maggie Daley Park "Shortshanks Square" for an idiot who STILL has CPD protection - even though he bankrupted "the city that he loves."

7/16/2015 09:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why hasn't anyone been charged for the shooting?

7/16/2015 09:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


The Aviation Police, are in fact the police under Illinois law and can carry weapons on and off duty. However, Daley prohibited this during his term and it seems that it continues. I have had some contact with them while working at the airport and I can say that some are retired CPD, but others are just clouted and not someone you would like to see carry a gun. Nothing more then security guards.The same goes for the Cook County Hospital police. Just more patronage jobs.

7/15/2015 04:07:00 PM

I believe the Illinois law enforcement training and standards board would say differently. There are requirements that need to be met to keep up your Illinois certification....they meet none of those requirements

7/16/2015 11:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ex Cl Closed cases go through a full administrative review before they are allowed to be cleared on homicide cases.


. . . by the same folks/people whose job depends on the clearance rate

7/16/2015 03:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about this.....its just stupid to have an unarmed PD. There are lots of active shooter incidents going on and if there is one at the airport they should be able to get themselves out. Arm so that they can help protect and assist CPD if something were to happen. CPD should stay and keep on with 19Paul for everything. APD armed to be able to assist and access control.......Yeah yeah there are Idiots on APD that you wouldn't want with a weapon but CPD has them too....Ken n Barbie tac

7/16/2015 07:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9-p


However, 10 mins later, you hear a call of a pedestrian struck by a speeding vehicle. You find out that it was the same car you pulled over but took off on you.

When you get home, you turn on the news and see a story of a man that was a victim of a hit and run. You also watch as an eyewitness tells the reporter he had seen the same vehicle before the accident, stopped by the CPD and they did nothing! They allowed this motorist to go free, resulting in the near tragic death of a citizen.


Good luck explaining the balance test when you are sitting in court facing that 5 million dollar lawsuit


Huh? We don't have crystal balls in our cars. I don't recall anyone being sued for deciding NOT to continue a pursuit after weighing all the facts.

7/16/2015 07:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually the suspect should be the only one paid by the city, with more fucking charges!!! That's it! Good God what the hell is this world coming to? It's just getting worse and worse in every way. It's hard to even look at the shitheads, politicians, media, and all the people that love to talk a whole bunch of shit about things they know nothing about or even understand. It would make true patriots of this country and deceased family of mine turn in they're graves but this city and country is honest to God going right down the shitter and I'd love to get the hell as far a way from it as I could. If I could. Remember the old timers saying "this county's going to hell" years ago??? They'd shit their pants and pass out if they were around now because now it actually is!!

7/16/2015 10:41:00 PM  

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