Stop Saving Junkies
- By Friday afternoon, 14 people had been rushed to Mount Sinai Hospital in Chicago in the previous 24 hours to be treated for heroin overdoses, some with the needles still stuck in their arm, according to hospital officials.
In all, nearly 75 people have overdosed in Chicago since Tuesday afternoon from dangerous batches of narcotics, possibly heroin laced with the painkiller fentanyl, according to city health and fire officials. Police were investigating if at least one recent death was caused by a heroin overdose.
"We suspect what is happening is the same thing that happened in 2006 when people were getting heroin that was cut with fentanyl, which is a very strong narcotic," said Diane Hincks, a registered nurse and emergency room director at Mount Sinai on the West Side. "That's what we think is happening."
Our sources say it isn't fentanyl, but just purer heroin necessitating the double doses of NarCan, but we'll leave that for the scientists to determine.
What we want to know is why are we spending scarce police and fire resources on a self-solving issue?
Junkies die - who cares? You know who ought to be ordering everyone to stand down? The CompStat king himself, McCarthy - less junkies means less burglaries, less thefts, less stick-ups and eventually, less junkies, meaning less dope dealers, less shootings, less competition for territory - It's the Circle of Dumbassery.
Even better, more dead junkies means more hiring by the body removal services, so it's a net job creator, which is more than president Sparklefarts has done.
What we want to know is why are we spending scarce police and fire resources on a self-solving issue?
Junkies die - who cares? You know who ought to be ordering everyone to stand down? The CompStat king himself, McCarthy - less junkies means less burglaries, less thefts, less stick-ups and eventually, less junkies, meaning less dope dealers, less shootings, less competition for territory - It's the Circle of Dumbassery.
Even better, more dead junkies means more hiring by the body removal services, so it's a net job creator, which is more than president Sparklefarts has done.
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posted by SCC at 12:35 AM
125 Comments:
AMEN!
Wow. Hope nobody you care for falls into the hell of addiction.
Didn't you guys watch Blue Bloods a few seasons ago?
According to the producers of the TV show, most heroin junkies are white middle class kids that were hooked on Oxy, or NYC Stockbrokers and Glitterati. These junkies are just like you and me, except they pump drugs in their arms or up their nose occasionally. They aren't criminals, low-lifes, hookers, and thieves. We must save their lives, so they can go on to do good things once they see the error of their ways.
Besides Heroin is chic again. All the Beautiful People(R) in NYC and LA know that.
Some of these people might pull out of it, get straight and go on to lead a productive life. Most of them will always be junkies that bleed the life from their friends and family until they finally and almost inevitably die from something drug related. Leaving their family to mourn, but also relieved that the hurt and pain the addict caused has stopped.
I just wish there was a way to tell the difference.
OT: I work on a zone with one really terrible dispatcher. How are dispatchers assigned? He's been on my zone for years and I'm hoping he goes to a slower one soon. Are dispatchers locked into one zone or do they have a bidding process?
My buddy in the burbs said they've had a big uptick in these too. So that 70+ number is easily 5 times when you add the near suburbs...still...don't...care.
"...double doses of Narcan..."
......the cost of which has suddenly doubled.
"Police and public health officials from New York to San Francisco are facing sticker shock: Prices for a popular form of the medication, naloxone, are spiking, in some cases by 50 percent or more.
“It’s not an incremental increase,” said Chuck Wexler, the executive director of the Police Executive Research Forum and a proponent of putting the lifesaving drug into officers’ hands. “There’s clearly something going on.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/01/nyregion/prices-increase-for-antidote-to-heroin-overdoses-used-by-police.html
..."75 people have overdosed in Chicago since Tuesday afternoon..."
Averages out to about one per hour x $1000 per ambulance run, not including ER costs.
How many legit sick or injured can't get an ambulance because the shitheads are using them as cabs all day every day.
If anyone can guarantee me at least a 50% fentanyl success rate, I'll buy a bag of dope for the first 100 hypes.
Lives matter, even junkie lives. Have you forgotten your mission, to protect?
Junkies are people too!
Hopefuly the city shows how the plaintiffs got the spots in the first place.
Lmfao
Who pays for their medical bills?! What a waste of life....I agree ~ let them die!
O/T CR Numbers For Car Chase?
Is it true or just a bullshit rumor that a bunch of officers were served with cr# for the vehicle pursuit that started in 011 and ended in 015 a few days ago? Does anyone have the facts?
I hope it's not true. The officers were doing their job. If anything, get cr numbers on dogs who don't do shit. On my watch about two thirds don't do shit and they never get fucked with. The coppers who are aggressive get fucked. I know a lot of bosses read this blog- mess with the dogs and leave the workers alone.
So what the problem don't you have detectives with brains or how about all these specialized units wasting time by now there should be people in custody!!!!!! . This is the problem with this department everything should not be the field officers these lazy ass detectives and all these lazy ass specialized units including tact units should start working for there money ..... !!!!!!!.
I'll be doing my level headed least to keep them from killing themselves.
The philosophy of DILLIGAF saved my sanity and perhaps my health and
economic well being as well.
McNitwit can scream until he is blue in the face about his failed Crapstat
policing model but the SS Proactive has sailed for me and is never coming back.
Isn't phentinal more expensive than heroin? As a cut it seems to cut profits too.. It would be better to cut with flour, (it clogs up in the veins)
Junkie Lives Matter!
Would be much easier to let nature take its course and give them deserved dirt nap, crime would go down, less crime win win for citizens!
Okay, I agree who cares about people on a death wish to start with in the first place. If they are arriving with the needle still stuck in their arm, can't some body test the needle to see what is in it?
I agree Ive been an advocate of legalizing it and actually giving it away. BUt we dont revive overdoses. The Hell with wasting ambulances on these vermin
Junkies vote Democratic. Rahm wants them saved.
Be fortunate for the time that you were considered "special" in this preferred gig. Now it's somebody else's turn. Instead of pouting, return back to the job you were hired to do.
It's amazing how a certain group of people can drain the resources of others. Between the drug overdoses and shootings. The ambulance service, the trama care, the rehabilitation care, the long term care, etc. I wonder who is paying for all this? Wanna take a guess?
Darwin taking care of things. Now move those police to the northside and protect us while we pay all the taxes to keep this city running.
(OT) Obamas and clintons plan let illegals vote give her the election! This country is so corrupt!
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/10/illegal-immigrants-could-elect-hillary-clinton-213216
Maybe we can make cookies out of them like in Soilent Green and pass them out at the next city council meeting!
Who are you to decide who lives and dies?
Well stated SCC. I'll never forget my busiest night in 013 nearly twenty-five years ago on midnights when we had seven shot in five different incidents including one homicide in what was untIl then a quiet black owned bar at California and Chicago. Next came a call of a person shot in the weedy vacant lot at Walnut and Mozart. Fat Freddy the 300 lb garage mechanic is shot multiple times in the chest and abdomen. He had so many holes in him he was spraying blood like a lawn sprinkler. Despite the late hour some people started coming out and screaming that he was dying-no shit-and where was the bambalance. My partner and I fended off an angry crowd by ourselves until three of the meanest, toughest, orneryest housing guys-Betts, Taylor and Washington-came and bailed us out by knocking the biggest asshole in the crowd to the ground. CFD arrived after thirty minutes to take Fat Freddy to Mt Sinai where an ER resident threw the chest film on the light box to reveal eleven rounds scattered amongst his body. The take away for me was it could have been policeman, or legitimate person without an extensive IR who was lying on the ground bleeding to death waiting for ambulance. I feel the same way when a PO calls for an ambulance when someone cuts the finger or a bust out with a headache. Drive them to the hospital yourself boneheads. It might be another policemen or fireman or your family member who is saved because you kept an ambulance free. By the way Fat Freddy survived and told no more than some young boys tried to rob him....
I feel the same. Recall years back when our local Jr High hosted a speaker about heroin. All I could think after hearing his sad tale (his daughter od'ed) was 'God grant me strength to put a bullet in my kid's head if they get into this crap'. Also when the schools bring in 'ex' addicts (is there any hope for heroin users? i thought not), it seemed to me the message the kids got was 'see, it ain't that bad, they are still alive'. All the training & expense for this latest so-called 'Lifesaver' drug? life saved for what?!
SCC, for some posts, you don't need a comment section...just a like button. At dinner last night the general opinion was too many resources wasted and now the good people can't get the emergency services they need due to these dumbfucks introducing a horrible drug into their bodies. Screw them!
JUST A CITIZEN SAYS: When did LE become medical personnel? Do you get paid extra for this? I am so sick and tired of reading and hearing about all these idiots and the heroin epidemic. Well, maybe this is weeding out the herd a little. Sorry to sound so cruel but don't you people (LE) have a job that is to serve and protect? When did it become Serve, Protect and Practice Medicine?
Yeah!!!!! What he said
"When your all dressed up, on Kentucky Derby Day, I will be in my basement room, with a needle, and a spoon, and a different man will come, to take my blues away"
Very Sad, What A Waste of What Could Have Been, A Life. If There is a Judgement Day, I would hate to have to explain to the powers to be, how I threw my life away, with this poison.
like I posted yesterday, I've never met a junkie of any socio-economic status worth a shit. I feel sorry for their families, not them.
it isn't an illness, it's a bad life choice.
fukkem,,,,let them remove themselves from the public payroll and move on
Junkies give a lot to the world. The humor of belushi, the wit of lenny Bruce, the literature of William Burroughs. These are treasured contributions to American popular culture made by JUNKIES. Junky lives matters. Hands up! Don't shoot (heroin)!
What we want to know is why are we spending scarce police and fire resources on a self-solving issue?
I would have to guess that the junkies that vote, both of them, are voting to the left which means we must protect the liberal voting base, even at the cost of other true emergencies.
Not LEO, just an ordinary citizen who appreciates the sacrifices made to keep us safe.
Not just junkies, but all sorts of bad, stupid, irresponsible behavior. Stupid shit like speeding while it's snowy and icy on the surface. Or drunk driving and you hit a tree. Most medical services are tied up by idiots. That means the responsible people are denied emergency medical services.
Think of all of the long term family suffering that can be stopped by just letting them die. Heroin destroys everyone, not just the junkie.
I wish the city, county, state, federal government would start to put poison in the illegal drug supply. Kill all the addicts. Solve a lot of problems. Maybe the junkie could get the most incredible high before he dies - go out with a smile :)
hope they did contact cards for each junkie they have rights too.
you're correct. who cares ?
Anonymous said...
Wow. Hope nobody you care for falls into the hell of addiction.
Hello Newbie. If you were any sort of reader, you'd have known that we did have a family member fall into the hell of addiction. It cost that branch of the family tens of thousands of dollars in burglaries, replacement doors, security upgrades, etc. It cost the addict a leg and a productive life. It's currently costing the taxpayer thousands per year. So go fuck yourself and your "holier than thou" attitude. We know the cost - we can't be bothered to give a fuck.
Asshat
Anonymous said...
Wow. Hope nobody you care for falls into the hell of addiction.
10/03/2015 02:05:00 AM
You sound like a fucking fool! You don't "fall" into drugs you make a decision to slam dope! If your hooked h your life goes to shit it's YOUR FAULT! Why don't you go get high & join your junkie friend the you two fuckholes can blame someone else together!
Scc-can you start a entry regarding the nordstrom store shooting that someone leaked info to the media. Apparently everyone has to take a day suspension (about 200 officers) for looking at the report for "conduct unbecoming." I would appreciate what others have to say regarding this issue.
Thanks
Ive found White kids passed in the sidewalk passed out turning blue,I called EMS and they lived,Its my job.
Anonymous said...
Who are you to decide who lives and dies?
A taxpayer - an educated taxpayer who actually understands the cost of treating someone who voluntarily puts poison into their veins and refuses to live in a civilized society. We fail to see where government is supposed to step in and save these addicts.
All these pro junkie comments, give me a fucking break. No my job is not to save junkies or support their habit. Disease my ass. Addiction is a choice and a matter of will power. So sick of this pussification of America. The responsible people of the world are supposed to happily bear the burden of every lazy, defective asshole on the planet.
And the handjobs at Naperville are saving these scum racing to the scene to administer their Narcan. Thanks assholes, if you aren't hammering your residents with tickets to generate revenue and DUI'ing your own firemen than you are out there saving junkies. Don't worry, the suburbs will eventually have their hands full of chicago's relocated shit where the police won't be able to fuck with law abiding citizens all day. I personally know this growing up. Maybe it's for the best. The suburbs are very liberal but won't be so much when it reaches their doorstep.
Ever have a family member on this stuff? A fucking nightmare.
Blogger SCC said...
Anonymous said...
Wow. Hope nobody you care for falls into the hell of addiction.
Hello Newbie. If you were any sort of reader, you'd have known that we did have a family member fall into the hell of addiction. It cost that branch of the family tens of thousands of dollars in burglaries, replacement doors, security upgrades, etc. It cost the addict a leg and a productive life. It's currently costing the taxpayer thousands per year. So go fuck yourself and your "holier than thou" attitude. We know the cost - we can't be bothered to give a fuck.
Asshat
10/03/2015 12:52:00 PM
Ha. I knew that swift rebuke was coming. I had an uncle who was an addict. I loved that man. He was a great uncle (when I saw him) but my cousins and aunt that had to depend on him...God have mercy for how he ruined their lives. Kicked out of place after place. Private school tuition couldn't be paid so one of the kids ended up in a baddddd school where they were chasing him and his friends home everyday because of where they lived in the neighborhood. Probably the worst story was the family standing in the graveyard waiting on a burial that the cemetery wouldn't start because they were not paid (money was spent on dope). Years later my uncle ended up being founded dead, after days, at some place he had been living. It wasn't an OD but his heart was bad after years of destroying his body. Dope destroys every fabric of a family.
"On my watch about two thirds don't do shit and they never get fucked with. The coppers who are aggressive get fucked."
Look at the events that have transpired over the past few years.... Trayvon Martin, Ferguson, New York, Baltimore, etc. Look at how they view policemen from the President to the DoJ to the local Politicians, on down to average citizens. Everyone wants to throw you under the bus! Now, re-read your statement out loud to yourself and marinate on that for awhile. I'm not saying it's a good thing, but you are in need of some awareness. Remember that next time you are chasing dude for something that's either going to be thrown out in court or met with a slap on the wrist.... and that's IF everything goes the way it should.
OT, new director of management and labor affairs as of October 1st. Anyone know what happened with O'Neil?
So what the problem don't you have detectives with brains or how about all these specialized units wasting time by now there should be people in custody!!!!!! . This is the problem with this department everything should not be the field officers these lazy ass detectives and all these lazy ass specialized units including tact units should start working for there money ..... !!!!!!!.
10/03/2015 06:54:00 AM
You obviously aren't a detective if you think the detectives aren't working. What a fucking joke you must be.
Is it true or just a bullshit rumor that a bunch of officers were served with cr# for the vehicle pursuit that started in 011 and ended in 015 a few days ago? Does anyone have the facts?
I hope it's not true. The officers were doing their job. If anything, get cr numbers on dogs who don't do shit. On my watch about two thirds don't do shit and they never get fucked with. The coppers who are aggressive get fucked. I know a lot of bosses read this blog- mess with the dogs and leave the workers alone.
LMFAO
If the dept wanted they have video of the chase and could jam every one on this pursuit policy. Dont be a bone head. The way the city is screwing "working cops" it only is a matter of time before a "working cop" becomes a "DOG"
Get your head our of your ass and see the light dumb ass. I will bet my OT check you have less than ten year on. You are one special super cop who thinks working the ghetto locking up one baggers is the "REAL POLICE"
Do us all a favor, go work in 016,019,020,018 and help real victims, real taxpayer, real citizens who need police service. You are a dumb ass, oh wait your the real police.
Recently I spoke with a person that works for different county. She told me that all police departments in that county carry narcan due to overdoses. When I was asked if we (CPD) carry narcan too I started laughing... :)
>>>Anonymous said...
JUST A CITIZEN SAYS: When did LE become medical personnel? Do you get paid extra for this? I am so sick and tired of reading and hearing about all these idiots and the heroin epidemic. Well, maybe this is weeding out the herd a little. Sorry to sound so cruel but don't you people (LE) have a job that is to serve and protect? When did it become Serve, Protect and Practice Medicine?
10/03/2015 10:32:00 AM<<<
Maybe you are one of those citizens who would just stand by and take a cell phone video.
The POLICE are THE FIRST RESPONDER in ALL RESPECTS.
Basic First Aid, Heimlich Maneuver and C.P.R. are part of Academy Training and common citizen decency.
Do you want me to just stand around and after I call for that now far away ambulance while you are bleeding out. Would you rather I grab one of those Israeli Tactical Bandages I keep in my kit, tear it open, use it on you and give you a chance to stay alive.
Please just hear me out before you laugh. Shouldn't the use of NarCan on a person constitute prima facia evidence for the possession of a controlled substance?
I have a certain amount of sympathy for addicts of all types. But in the end, they are the ones that decided not to stop the behaviour that is destroying their own life. If they really want a solution to their problem, the solution is to stop using heroin, alcohol, tobacco, or whatever other substance is slowly destroying them.
I realize it is easier said than done, but it really is the only answer that works.
When did LE become medical personnel?
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They aren't. Emergency medical crews like paramedics and EMTs now have heroin overdose antidote as part of their kit since overdose is so common.
You can even buy it w/o prescription at drug stores in some states.
Cold and callous............But correct.
How about stop giving the nice folks from Hinsdale, Naperville, Plainfield, ect....breaks when they come to buy dope? They are the quickest to bitch and moan that they have a "disease". They will show you the 'ol 12 step colored key chains and cry they relapsed. They don't drive all that way to buy 1 or 2 bags either. They're buying jabs.
Anonymous said...
What we want to know is why are we spending scarce police and fire resources on a self-solving issue?
I would have to guess that the junkies that vote, both of them, are voting to the left which means we must protect the liberal voting base, even at the cost of other true emergencies.
Not LEO, just an ordinary citizen who appreciates the sacrifices made to keep us safe.
10/03/2015 12:00:00 PM
The do-gooders think it is so nice to save the life of a drug addict. I don't know how many times I've been on the street and had to hold a dope fiend down in prep for his bad attitude after CFD gives him the Narcan and blows his high. I've had fights with junkies and so many arrests I have lost count. Families with an addicted some or daughter who steals money from mom and dad, forges checks, steals the rent and on and on. I had a dope fiend daughter of a pilot who stole so much from her airline captain father that he had a numerous warrants on daughter. I stopped her at 4am stoned out in the middle of Devon. I wrote her for DUI and charged her with dope and then the father's warrant popped. So don't people get all soft and aw shucks like. She made her choices. Of course that doesn't count all the west side dope fiends. Help is there for those who want it. å second chance is also there. Just not 47 second chances. It isn't unlimited.
One reason for the heroin "epidemic" is that it is so tough to get simple Vicodin. Easier and cheaper to just get heroin.
Preach it, SCC! Truth.
According to the editorial in the Chicago Tribune Whether or not the streets are safe without cops?
Anonymous said...
Lives matter, even junkie lives. Have you forgotten your mission, to protect?
10/03/2015 04:21:00 AM
Have you ever loved someone that didn't love you? At a certain point you have to either cut your losses and move on or accept that they love heroin more than you or even themselves.
10/03/2015 06:37:00 AM
The best thing all of you cowboy coppers can do to help yourself is: 1. Read the general order on vehicle pursuit. 2. Understand what reasonable suspicion means, probable cause to arrest means and the rules for search and seizure. 3. Understand the use of force model. When you add all up the above elements, especially #2 and #3 you realize that it is nearly impossible to do your job if you have to follow the letter of the law directly 100%. Hence the best option is to respond to your job.
BONUS QUESTION FOR YOU- if you lose this job do you really think you are going to command the same salary and benefits somewhere else? Be honest with yourself.
Love your logic SCC!! Makes perfect sense to me. Save taxpayer funds and reduce crime while at it. What a job creation program.
A very young family member died of a heroin overdose. I want to curse you to hell because she was a child but at the same time i understand the sentiment.
I am sure that G-Mac will take credit for reducing criminal recidivism in The City...
SCC published The Best Quote Ever:
"Junkies die - who cares? You know who ought to be ordering everyone to stand down? The CompStat king himself, McCarthy - less junkies means less burglaries, less thefts, less stick-ups and eventually, less junkies, meaning less dope dealers, less shootings, less competition for territory - It's the Circle of Dumbassery."
Reduces crime. Reduces taxpayer expense on incarceration, public defenders, LINK, Section 8, welfare rolls. It is a WIN for all taxpayers!
10 years on this job, was a junkie for 8 before coming on. It is a struggle at times even now. I never got caught breaking the law. I was homeless for 2 years, slept on whacker and would panhandle all day for dope money. I worked with coppers that would smack me around, search me and even spit in my face. It took 4 od's to make me take the jump to sobriety and never looked back. I was a police officer 2 years later and spent my first 3 years on the westside. Clean shaven and a haircut, not one of those coppers recognized me or even remembered my name. Finding dope on people was hard for a long time but I fought and daily. I used to think of this copper in 001 that told me 'just go jump in the river you waste of life junkie' for motivation. That piece of shit knew nothing about how hard it was to live with heroin addiction. You don't truly know until you've lived it. I hand out narcan and try to help the young ones begging downtown. I wish I could say many had changed their ways but I cant. The ones that have are amazing. Some are ones I thought were too far gone to save themselves. You'd be surprised how many pull themselves out of this shit and make something of themselves. It's a horrible horrible fight but some do make it.
Protesters rally to raise awareness of 'brutality of police'
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-community-renewal-society-police-rally-met-20151003-story.html
Really! Homicide rates at an all time high affecting the black community and committed by the black community and they want to protest white cops and police disciplinary oversight?
Really!
We can solve this problem immediately....
All we have to do is IGNORE IT, NOT REPORT IT, MAKE NO RECORDS. Rahm could tell his media lackeys that crime is down and not to report this.
Victims, there are no victims...
If hospitalized with insurance make them pay large deductibles.
If all they have is Obamacare, give them as much antidote as they can hold lock them in a cold padded cell let them crap them selves and kick them out the door.
If someone dies, just issue a death certificate CAUSE: Overindulgence in Recreational Drugs.
P.S. Anyone admitted to a hospital for a drug O.D. should have a DNA swab taken and recorded/ Might solve a lot of crimes that way.
U mean they suspect this is like 2006? No shit?
Go figure. A fortune on med school & the hypothesis is that fentnlyal or whatever it's called is the player in this?
No shit, Shirley!
Junkies are a vital part of our economy! They help keep pawn shops operating, as well as locksmiths, alarm companies, police departments, EMS personnel, and drug dealers. These people, in turn, pump money into our economy, not to mention those who purchase goods to replace those stolen by junkies.
Can we afford to lose this valuable resource?
rb
Anonymous Anonymous said...
10 years on this job, was a junkie for 8 before coming on. It is a struggle at times even now. I never got caught breaking the law. I was homeless for 2 years, slept on whacker and would panhandle all day for dope money. I worked with coppers that would smack me around, search me and even spit in my face. It took 4 od's to make me take the jump to sobriety and never looked back. I was a police officer 2 years later and spent my first 3 years on the westside. Clean shaven and a haircut, not one of those coppers recognized me or even remembered my name. Finding dope on people was hard for a long time but I fought and daily. I used to think of this copper in 001 that told me 'just go jump in the river you waste of life junkie' for motivation. That piece of shit knew nothing about how hard it was to live with heroin addiction. You don't truly know until you've lived it. I hand out narcan and try to help the young ones begging downtown. I wish I could say many had changed their ways but I cant. The ones that have are amazing. Some are ones I thought were too far gone to save themselves. You'd be surprised how many pull themselves out of this shit and make something of themselves. It's a horrible horrible fight but some do make it.
10/03/2015 07:45:00 PM
If true, background checks sure aren't what they use to be.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
10 years on this job, was a junkie for 8 before coming on. It is a struggle at times even now. I never got caught breaking the law. I was homeless for 2 years, slept on whacker and would panhandle all day for dope money. I worked with coppers that would smack me around, search me and even spit in my face. It took 4 od's to make me take the jump to sobriety and never looked back. I was a police officer 2 years later and spent my first 3 years on the westside. Clean shaven and a haircut, not one of those coppers recognized me or even remembered my name. Finding dope on people was hard for a long time but I fought and daily. I used to think of this copper in 001 that told me 'just go jump in the river you waste of life junkie' for motivation. That piece of shit knew nothing about how hard it was to live with heroin addiction. You don't truly know until you've lived it. I hand out narcan and try to help the young ones begging downtown. I wish I could say many had changed their ways but I cant. The ones that have are amazing. Some are ones I thought were too far gone to save themselves. You'd be surprised how many pull themselves out of this shit and make something of themselves. It's a horrible horrible fight but some do make it.
10/03/2015 07:45:00 PM
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Yeah, junkies are awesome. We should all just wait around and pay their bills until they decide to sober up. It's society's responsibility to stand by them as they choose to fuck off for years on end. This is not cancer asshole, you choose to do this. You have no business on this job.
BONUS QUESTION FOR YOU- if you lose this job do you really think you are going to command the same salary and benefits somewhere else? Be honest with yourself.
10/03/2015 06:42:00 PM
That rule could be applied to most people that lose their job. Do you think some guy working in the computer field for the last 20 years that's now 40 could get the same pay at another company if he lost his job? There'll be 5 20 somethings lined up for the same job and all willing to work for less.
Anonymous said...
Lives matter, even junkie lives. Have you forgotten your mission, to protect?
10/03/2015 04:21:00 AM
Not to protect people from themselves and their shit choices. To protect others from those that prey on them (thieving, robbing, junkies). Another liberal jagoff heard from.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
10 years on this job, was a junkie for 8 before coming on. It is a struggle at times even now. I never got caught breaking the law. I was homeless for 2 years, slept on whacker and would panhandle all day for dope money. I worked with coppers that would smack me around, search me and even spit in my face. It took 4 od's to make me take the jump to sobriety and never looked back. I was a police officer 2 years later and spent my first 3 years on the westside. Clean shaven and a haircut, not one of those coppers recognized me or even remembered my name. Finding dope on people was hard for a long time but I fought and daily. I used to think of this copper in 001 that told me 'just go jump in the river you waste of life junkie' for motivation. That piece of shit knew nothing about how hard it was to live with heroin addiction. You don't truly know until you've lived it. I hand out narcan and try to help the young ones begging downtown. I wish I could say many had changed their ways but I cant. The ones that have are amazing. Some are ones I thought were too far gone to save themselves. You'd be surprised how many pull themselves out of this shit and make something of themselves. It's a horrible horrible fight but some do make it.
I hope you relapse you piece of shit. We don't need your type on this job. You had to have completely lied on the Psychological to get on this job and slip thru the cracks. You are on the wrong team asshole. Stick that needle back in your arm you AssHat!
We've been sitting on dope spots, twiddling our thumbs for the last 3 days...trying to save GROWN FOLKS from themselves!! If they want to put that shit in their veins, let 'em! Funny thing is, cars pull onto the block, see us and keep on going. All this publicity did was make the hardcore addicts want to try this carp.
why was it decided the police needed to play paramedic??
Anonymous Anonymous said...
10 years on this job, was a junkie for 8 before coming on. It is a struggle at times even now. I never got caught breaking the law. I was homeless for 2 years, slept on whacker and would panhandle all day for dope money. I worked with coppers that would smack me around, search me and even spit in my face. It took 4 od's to make me take the jump to sobriety and never looked back. I was a police officer 2 years later and spent my first 3 years on the westside. Clean shaven and a haircut, not one of those coppers recognized me or even remembered my name. Finding dope on people was hard for a long time but I fought and daily. I used to think of this copper in 001 that told me 'just go jump in the river you waste of life junkie' for motivation. That piece of shit knew nothing about how hard it was to live with heroin addiction. You don't truly know until you've lived it. I hand out narcan and try to help the young ones begging downtown. I wish I could say many had changed their ways but I cant. The ones that have are amazing. Some are ones I thought were too far gone to save themselves. You'd be surprised how many pull themselves out of this shit and make something of themselves. It's a horrible horrible fight but some do make it.
10/03/2015 07:45:00 PM
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I call BS. There's no way you were a junkie for 8 years on the street with no substantial criminal record. A record which would have prevented you from getting hired. Also, from needle to cop in two years? Timeline off.
Anonymous said...
10 years on this job, was a junkie for 8 before coming on. It is a struggle at times even now. I never got caught breaking the law. I was homeless for 2 years, slept on whacker and would panhandle all day for dope money. I worked with coppers that would smack me around, search me and even spit in my face. It took 4 od's to make me take the jump to sobriety and never looked back. I was a police officer 2 years later and spent my first 3 years on the westside. Clean shaven and a haircut, not one of those coppers recognized me or even remembered my name. Finding dope on people was hard for a long time but I fought and daily. I used to think of this copper in 001 that told me 'just go jump in the river you waste of life junkie' for motivation. That piece of shit knew nothing about how hard it was to live with heroin addiction. You don't truly know until you've lived it. I hand out narcan and try to help the young ones begging downtown. I wish I could say many had changed their ways but I cant. The ones that have are amazing. Some are ones I thought were too far gone to save themselves. You'd be surprised how many pull themselves out of this shit and make something of themselves. It's a horrible horrible fight but some do make it.
I call bullshit!
"I hand out narcan..."
10/03/2015 07:45:00 PM
The stuff has gone up to over $50.00/dose, and it's a prescription medication. Where are you getting it?
I didn't know CPD had been issued Narcan at all, let alone "to hand out." In the suburban departments that have it, ofc. have been trained in its administration. I believe that Chicago EMS takes care of that here.
So how are things down on "Whacker" Drive these days?
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I totally commend you on this ... I recall as a child going to bed hungry be a use we didn't have food my mother was a mental and really unable to take care of 3 children so now with 10yrs on I make sure I feed homeless ppl here and there i have purchased groceries for some families here and there... some of these officers are complete garbage when it comes to humility and being humble. I haven't forgotten that at a point in my life I was hungry , a dirty child walking around and unable to read. 10YRS ON Masters Degree, and waiting for the next Sgt class... how easily we forget!
Hey, I can see both sides and neither of them are good. Kids are nuts growing up, have not developed full judgment and experience and self-possession yet, lots of "peer pressure" and "want to belong to a group," and sometimes they gravitate towards exactly what they should stay away from -- a case a beer is one thing, but this s__t is in a class by itself. "It's so good don't even try it once." Dealers throwing up free handfuls, they know it's an investment in making future regular customers. Vicious game.
I think of the first vests, "Second Chance." Narcan = gift from God at age 14, maybe they can pull out of the first dive, but you start to wonder at age 29...gets harder and harder, to the point of maybe impossible, as the years go by.
A drug junkie for 8 years but got on the job after 2 years of sobriety and been in 2 years? Something is fishy. My good buddy got DQ'd for admitting to smoking weed 15 years ago in high school. How did you slip through the cracks?
"You obviously aren't a detective if you think the detectives aren't working. What a fucking joke you must be.
10/03/2015 02:00:00 PM"
Well Champ some are working their collective butts off. Others are getting their nails done, aint that right Mickey?
10 years on this job, was a junkie for 8 before coming on. It is a struggle at times even now. I never got caught breaking the law. I was homeless for 2 years, slept on whacker and would panhandle all day for dope money. I worked with coppers that would smack me around, search me and even spit in my face. It took 4 od's to make me take the jump to sobriety and never looked back. I was a police officer 2 years later and spent my first 3 years on the westside. Clean shaven and a haircut, not one of those coppers recognized me or even remembered my name. Finding dope on people was hard for a long time but I fought and daily. I used to think of this copper in 001 that told me 'just go jump in the river you waste of life junkie' for motivation. That piece of shit knew nothing about how hard it was to live with heroin addiction. You don't truly know until you've lived it. I hand out narcan and try to help the young ones begging downtown. I wish I could say many had changed their ways but I cant. The ones that have are amazing. Some are ones I thought were too far gone to save themselves. You'd be surprised how many pull themselves out of this shit and make something of themselves. It's a horrible horrible fight but some do make it.
10/03/2015 07:45:00 PM
God Bless you brother and the strength you found to beat the Beast.
My son became an addict 4 years ago. He's 6 months clean now and reclaiming his life.
The cop junkie is not alone.i was seven years clean and sober when i went into the academy. They don't always catch this on background check, and if they did what did i have to lose? There are a lot of stories in the naked city. We are a diverse group. I had earned a lifesaving award before my first tour of duty.
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OT, new director of management and labor affairs as of October 1st. Anyone know what happened with O'Neil?"
Apparently you don't pay attention. He is director of Human Resources, he's connected as he can "retire" to another City position... pay attention young Lad, pay attention......
Hope it's not true. The officers were doing their job. If anything, get cr numbers on dogs who don't do shit. On my watch about two thirds don't do shit and they never get fucked with. The coppers who are aggressive get fucked. I know a lot of bosses read this blog- mess with the dogs and leave the workers alone.
10/03/2015 06:37:00 AM
Now sonny, read what you just posted - and decide if you want to be a worker or a dog? Would you like to be the majority(66%)that doesn't get fucked with or the minority (33%)that gets fucked with, according to your numbers? This is as clear as day - open your eyes!
Promotions same thing -- 30% merit Sgt, 30% merit Lt. 100% merit Capt. Figure it out. If you had 100 of each rank, you'd be eligible for 140/300 spots. Thats 46% of non exempt spots. Good odds, right?
"...You'd be surprised how many pull themselves out of this shit and make something of themselves. It's a horrible horrible fight but some do make it.
10/03/2015 07:45:00 PM"
I would be surprised. There in lies the story for a book and movie.
Stronger heroin. Yet another benefit of an open border with Mexico.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
10 years on this job, was a junkie for 8 before coming on. It is a struggle at times even now. I never got caught breaking the law. I was homeless for 2 years, slept on whacker and would panhandle all day for dope money. I worked with coppers that would smack me around, search me and even spit in my face. It took 4 od's to make me take the jump to sobriety and never looked back. I was a police officer 2 years later and spent my first 3 years on the westside. Clean shaven and a haircut, not one of those coppers recognized me or even remembered my name. Finding dope on people was hard for a long time but I fought and daily. I used to think of this copper in 001 that told me 'just go jump in the river you waste of life junkie' for motivation. That piece of shit knew nothing about how hard it was to live with heroin addiction. You don't truly know until you've lived it. I hand out narcan and try to help the young ones begging downtown. I wish I could say many had changed their ways but I cant. The ones that have are amazing. Some are ones I thought were too far gone to save themselves. You'd be surprised how many pull themselves out of this shit and make something of themselves. It's a horrible horrible fight but some do make it.
10/03/2015 07:45:00 PM
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Are you serious?
Is there Good heroin? I guess not on the west side
To the unpublished Libtard
We didn't call you names, yet you went right to it, like a typical libtard will when confronted with an opinion that clashes with their cherished ideas.
You know what is even cheaper than your "treatment programs" and incarceration?
Death.
GFY Asshat.
Hey everyone has a right to their own opinion on the matter. I respect everyone's because we all have that right. I didn't run my mouth about anyone's opinion or comments, I told my fucking story and my experience with addiction. I completely understand anyone who would have an opinion other than mine based on their experience on the subject. I didn't say I was on the street for 8 years, I said I was an addict for 8 years. 2 years on the street holding a fucking sign and moving along if a copper told me to is not hard and easy to avoid arrest. How did I get past the psych? Easy, I didn't admit to shit and past just like anyone else who didn't admit to breaking the law or smoking pot before. How bout all the bangers on the job? Yea I hand out narcan and try to counsel the young ones WHEN IM OFF DUTY moron and you can order the shit online or simply drive not too far and pick it up. There's people handing the shit out all over, even on the west side and it's only $50 a dose if your the city of chicago buying it from whoever the clouted supplier is genious! You know how many drunks are on this job? Years ago there was 3 times that, addictions a bitch and it's not hard to fall in to. I'm not one of these fucks that say give them handouts until they decide to clean up, all I'm saying is that some do make it! You lose everything, respect for yourself, shame, your a fucking zombie for the shit. I didn't even realize how I was until I got clean and yea i was fucking embarrassed. I weighed 130 and until I got clean I thought I even looked fucking normal. Whatever, judge me, wish me a relapse or whatever you'd like. I've been clean almost 13 years and on this job almost 11. I've shown my loyalty and put other coppers lives ahead of mine countless times even to the point of taking an injury meant for another that I couldn't even take pain meds for because of my past twice. It wasn't long ago that I had the respect of every street copper because of it. Might of even been you that wished me relapse but you know what, I'd do it again because that's what you do on this job. You'd be fucking shocked if you knew who I was because of my dedication to this job and loyalty to everyone else on it. Sorry I didn't come on this job straight out of the boy scouts like you jagoff, some of us made mistakes in life. See ya at roll call
"I call BS. There's no way you were a junkie for 8 years on the street with no substantial criminal record. A record which would have prevented you from getting hired. Also, from needle to cop in two years? Timeline off."
10/04/2015 08:51:00 AM
Oh, yeah, this is just our troll cutting-and-pasting police-sounding stuff together.
I'm still laughing. "Whacker Drive."
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"I am so sick and tired of reading and hearing about all these idiots and the heroin epidemic."
10/03/2015 10:32:00 AM
The dope is coming in on planes, boats, cars, trucks, in lettuces, up people's behinds, on drones, and through tunnels under the border. Homemade submarines, even. Parks are bristling with discarded needles.
No problem -- but there's now a woman at my doctor's office who refers to ANY -- ANY -- PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION OF ANY KIND as "a narcotic!" Starts making speeches about "pills." Will NOT phone ANY refills for ANYTHING in to the drugstore a block from you -- have to drag yourself miles back and forth to the doctor when it's 100 degrees, or two feet of snow, in the dark, to get simple blood pressure medication. Completely insane.
"War On Drugs" is going great.
Don't come.on here looking for sympathy because you made bad choices in life. You chose to do drugs. You chose to be an addict. You chose to be on the street. You will get no credit for overcoming anything since you chose to take that path to begin with.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
10 years on this job, was a junkie for 8 before coming on. It is a struggle at times even now. I never got caught breaking the law. I was homeless for 2 years, slept on whacker and would panhandle all day for dope money. I worked with coppers that would smack me around, search me and even spit in my face. It took 4 od's to make me take the jump to sobriety and never looked back. I was a police officer 2 years later and spent my first 3 years on the westside. Clean shaven and a haircut, not one of those coppers recognized me or even remembered my name. Finding dope on people was hard for a long time but I fought and daily. I used to think of this copper in 001 that told me 'just go jump in the river you waste of life junkie' for motivation. That piece of shit knew nothing about how hard it was to live with heroin addiction. You don't truly know until you've lived it. I hand out narcan and try to help the young ones begging downtown. I wish I could say many had changed their ways but I cant. The ones that have are amazing. Some are ones I thought were too far gone to save themselves. You'd be surprised how many pull themselves out of this shit and make something of themselves. It's a horrible horrible fight but some do make it.
I hope you relapse you piece of shit. We don't need your type on this job. You had to have completely lied on the Psychological to get on this job and slip thru the cracks. You are on the wrong team asshole. Stick that needle back in your arm you AssHat!
10/04/2015 06:53:00 AM
Whoever wrote this nasty rebuttal exemplifies the douce bag coppers with no humanity that are on this job. I would rather work with this ex-junkie than your pitiful as anyday. At least they have compassion. Jesus said, Let him who has no sin throw the first stone.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"You chose to do drugs. You chose to be an addict." Yes, and no. Someone can choose to do drugs. No one chooses to be an addict.
How many officers out there have children who are addicted? Think they're writing them off as pieces of shit? Have some heart.
That rule could be applied to most people that lose their job. Do you think some guy working in the computer field for the last 20 years that's now 40 could get the same pay at another company if he lost his job? There'll be 5 20 somethings lined up for the same job and all willing to work for less.
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depends a lot on just what he was doing in the "computer field". The jr. colleges are turning out a lot of drones that can handle the mundane stuff but people with experience in the non-mundane areas having to do with computers have little trouble finding work.
these days computer administrators are "a dime a dozen". database guys are being sought after by just about every big company.
Now we are hearing "about 72 ODs in 72 hours, more than twice the usual number."
...so that's only $36,000 @ $1,000/ambo run, + everything else + ER, etc. during a "normal" 72-hour period.
I feel better now.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/chicago/comments/3nm7s2/cpd_blog_second_city_cop_says_stop_saving_junkies/
You caused a slight stir over on Reddit!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"I am so sick and tired of reading and hearing about all these idiots and the heroin epidemic."
I'm sick of whining coppers and do-nothing dogasses.
It's a nasty world out there isn't it?
Uh I didn't see the guy fishing for any sympathy at all. You don't owe anyone an explanation pal and if you are who I'm pretty sure you are, fuck anyone who would question your loyalty to this dept.I mean that. The no pain meds gave it away, watch yourself if your trying to stay incognito.
"War On Drugs" is going great.
10/05/2015 07:33:00 AM
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We've lost the war on ALL crime, d-bag. Even murder.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Who are you to decide who lives and dies?
10/03/2015 09:51:00 AM
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No, actually the dopers make that decision for themselves. Remember? It's all about freedom. And the gov't doesn't control your body.
Besides, it's just a form of recreation. Why should the taxpayers pay for anything related to it?
Do any of you smoke? Are you addicted to nicotine. One is legal, the other not.
We all have a past bud, fuck these jag ' s running their ignorant mouths! They sound just like the losers I HATE getting stuck working with!
"War On Drugs" is going great.
10/05/2015 07:33:00 AM
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We've lost the war on ALL crime, d-bag. Even murder.
10/05/2015 06:51:00 PM
That was sarcasm. Point was that, while the her-on dealers are tossing free samples up in the air, old guy has to drag himself miles to the doctor to get simple meds for blood pressure, heart rate, etc. BS about "Epidemic of prescription drug abuse!" so they mess with harmless people. Those are the ones they can find -- just one name and one address. Easier than using ground-penetrating radar to find the tunnels under the border with little trains running through them, bringing in whole bales of all kinds of dope.
Now our "trade partners in China" are manufacturing bootleg fentanyl, and it's coming in through Mexico along with the horrible impure dark-blue meth the Mexicans are producing.
I love the new "global economy," don't you?
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God bless & stay safe.
Holy shit 6:53, speaking of d-bags, you tell the guy you hope he relapse's and more? Ever think that might be someone that had your back maybe even more than once? Better yet, I got a feeling that your some reject that didn't get on the job. Jealous? Shit, I smoked more than my share of pot in my teens and early twenties and when they asked me about every using illegal narcotics - No mam...never once. It's actually a little funny to me, think about our ex - user officer while working your security job loser!
10 years on this job, was a junkie for 8 before coming on. It is a struggle at times even now. I never got caught breaking the law. I was homeless for 2 years, slept on whacker and would panhandle all day for dope money. I worked with coppers that would smack me around, search me and even spit in my face. It took 4 od's to make me take the jump to sobriety and never looked back. I was a police officer 2 years later and spent my first 3 years on the westside. Clean shaven and a haircut, not one of those coppers recognized me or even remembered my name. Finding dope on people was hard for a long time but I fought and daily. I used to think of this copper in 001 that told me 'just go jump in the river you waste of life junkie' for motivation. That piece of shit knew nothing about how hard it was to live with heroin addiction. You don't truly know until you've lived it. I hand out narcan and try to help the young ones begging downtown. I wish I could say many had changed their ways but I cant. The ones that have are amazing. Some are ones I thought were too far gone to save themselves. You'd be surprised how many pull themselves out of this shit and make something of themselves. It's a horrible horrible fight but some do make it.
Lots of holes in your story. First, why would you get clean and decide to be a cop where you'd be exposed to the drug that almost killed you? And why would any of the cops on the west side remember your name if you never got into trouble? And where in 001 did you buy your dope? Did you buy dope all over? The west side? 001? Where else? 001 and the west side are pretty far apart. Were you a traveling addict? Did you admit to this when taking the police test if you had previously done drugs? I'm guessing you lied. Also, how do you get narcan? Pretty good story. Pitch this one to Oliver Stone or Martin Scorsese. Let them fill in the holes in your story and you have a blockbuster hit.
Lots of holes in your head! Are you even on the job? Where the hell do you think all the junkies begging on Michigan ave or anywhere downtown get their dope? At the dope spot on Randolph/clark? No genious, everybody begs downtown then hops the blue or green line to the westside to score. This is common knowledge and here's another, when you are homeless (in 001) or a white person roaming the westside, you are often subject to a name check (duh). Like I stated, I was many times and quite glad nobody (that I'm aware of) remembered my name. Why did I get on the job? Because after I got clean I despised drugs, dealers and all the bs I witnessed while on the shit and the street. I wanted to truly try and make a difference and knew I could overcome any urges to use when faced with it. I got lucky. Put that in scorsese's script jag. Wanna know where I get narcan to hand out? Across the street to gofuckyourself ave.!
You could've gone to 22nd and michigan or 29th and dearborn to get dope. Why bother getting on the train?
There's a good possibility a few of the cops know who you are but only talk about it to each other and not to your face...yet.
Just because you don't have the urge right now doesn't mean that you're not ever gonna have it again. It's like an alcoholic working as a bartender. Be careful thinking you're done or you could end up taking a ride on ohfuckididitagain avenue then taking a right turn on youarefired drive and backing it up into cemetarygates blvd.
And how is that war on drugs going? Cutting the colombian cartel down gram by gram?
I do get urges, I will for the rest of my life. I fight them off and move forward. Just as I will for the rest of my life. I fucked up, tried something when I was 17 and had no idea what I was getting myself into. Having to fight the urges forever will be my penance. I'm content with that and just happy that when I wake up every day that I'm not an active junkie. I wish back then that I could've been as perfect as you and not made that immature decision. I don't need to worry about anyone on the job, I've earned the respect I have and show which side I'm on and how loyal I am every shift I work. That's what counts mr. perfect and that's how it will be until my last shift. I'm done defending myself on here, stay perfect pal.
You don't need to show a dam thing to anybody but yourself. Who gives a fuck what some cop thinks anyway. Too many people on this job with unresolved issues trying to dig up stories on somebody else to try and bring them down to their level.
I wasn't trying to insult you I just didn't believe you at first. I also wouldn't advise a recovering addict to be near or even worse be in a position to able to take dope off the streets but if you can do it then only you know that. I'm far from perfect mr. myleftnuthasastorytotelltoo but ironically there was once a pro wrestler named curt hennig aka mr. perfect who was an addict and died young from it. He wasn't perfect either. Nobody is. Fear the morons who act like they are though because those are the fools with the most to hide.
You got lucky getting clean. Some addicts/alcoholics have to go far away in a recovery house in the middle of nowhere with no way out for at least 30 days just to stay off the shit as I'm sure you know. Good luck. If you're ever in that hole again I'd be the first one to help out if you needed it.
Sparklefarts. That's a new one. I'm using it at work tonite. Will update...
I'm a recovering "junkie". I agree with a lot of this being said yet, a lot is incorrect information. I have a software engineering degree, a family, and was even on the PTA for my kids. Sadly I made some bad life choices and battled addiction for a little over 3 years. Like many of you I disagree with the "disease" idea, but I was a normal tax paying functioning member of society. I needed help and got the help l needed and paid the reproussions of my actions. I'm a very small minority in the sense. It has taken me several years to get my life back to normal in a sense. Yet please don't be so quick to judge. The epidemic can happen to anyone and a lot of people don't want help. I didn't get into any legal trouble and am very fortunate for that. I also wasn't robbing people, or committing crimes of violent nature. I was a drug user and very ashamed of myself. I was scared to get help because of the ideals from society. I still struggling with certain family member for the simple fact that it was part of my life and even tho it is my past.
Now a days I work as a programmer, I'm a father, and I also reach out to people who actually want help and to make their lives better. I owned up to my actions and finally did something about it and got my life back. I paid for my treatment, I paid for my addiction, I didn't deserve to pay with my life.
Most importantly my little girl deserved her dad back.
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