Tuesday, November 24, 2015

All the Answers

Once again, a professor has all of the answers. If only we'd listen to our betters:
  • Another police shooting of a young black man — this time in Chicago. Laquan McDonald was shot to death in 2014 by a Chicago police officer. The city agreed to a $5 million settlement to McDonald's family. A video of the shooting is set to be released to the public this week, and city leaders are braced for a strong public reaction.

    As usual, though, few solutions are being offered.

    It's time to consider a factor that has been ignored: the role that collective bargaining agreements play in controlling police behavior. Union contracts and civil service regulations make it difficult, and at times impossible, to dismiss bad cops.
Now why didn't we think of that?? Surrender all contractual protections to the political masters! It's so simple, we're surprised it hasn't been done before. What other pearls of wisdom will drip from this professor's lips?
  • Police unions are quite powerful. Most states compel local jurisdictions to collectively bargain with police unions, and bargaining can be wide-ranging. The unions have used bargaining to resist body cameras and GPS tracking, and collective bargaining agreements almost always provide for binding arbitration for any significant disciplinary action taken against officers — a system stacked heavily in favor of police.
Um....well, let's see. Our "union" collapsed like a tent of wet newspaper when the issue of body cameras came up. They're being tested in a couple places already and we're sure they'll be department-wide in short order. And that GPS thing - yeah, we've got that, too. The union never said a word about it because, quite frankly, it's the City's car, and they're entitled to know where it is. There isn't a leg to stand on with it. Plus the city promised...promised...that the GPS would only be used as a safety feature and not to jam officers. That lasted all of a minute, but again, it's their car.
  • Moreover, cities almost always indemnify police officers for any civil judgments against them for civil rights violations.
Oh man....if only! For a judgement like that, the city is usually forbidden by law from indemnifying an officer from punitive damages. we're covered only for actions that arise in the course of our official duties, and violating civil rights doesn't fall within any official duty of which we're aware. We're specifically trained not to violate civil rights and even sign Consent Agreement paperwork to that effect.
  • Even when officers are not covered by union contracts or arbitration, statutes, regulations and highly detailed police manuals make termination a challenge. New York City, for example, does not have binding arbitration, but the process for terminating officers is very slow and rarely used.
Really? Every one of those "highly detailed police manuals" was gone over by teams of lawyers, read thoroughly by elected representatives (haha) and signed by an executive elected official somewhere. That's the process. Now this ass is braying about the process? And binding arbitration only seems to work on way in this town - binding on the union. The city is free to appeal (at taxpayer expense) any disagreement they might have with the status quo that they negotiated.

The rest of the article goes on about how a tiny percentage of officers are responsible for a vast majority of the complaints. Really? Well welcome to reality professor. Of course, he advocates punishing the vast majority for the actions of a few. He probably is an anti-Second Amendment type using the same tiny-brained method of thinking.

How about instead, you look at the political machinations behind the scenes? See how many clouted individuals were covered for, lied for, moved through the system? See if any of these ring a bell:
  • Abbate - no one has yet explained to our satisfaction how he even got on the job, let alone kept his job given his checkered past;
  • a big name gold star, pissed hot twice, kept his exempt spot for years;
  • a still employed lieutenant, demoted at least once for running plates of females he wanted to date, stalking said females, harassing females, both on and off the job;
  • a still employed officer with a background including battery, numerous firings for egregious behaviors, and a massive payout for harassment, still hired somehow;
  • a detective lieutenant and detective commander, involved in a case for a certain politician's nephew that had files mysteriously walking out of a police station in the midst of an investigation and then suddenly reappearing years later, and the commander is suddenly the Chief of Detectives;
And that's just scraping the surface. We could come up with a dozen more incidents, and we'll bet our comments will be alive with dozens more. So how about we stop picking on duly negotiated protections and perhaps start asking why the political structure in place too often protects the bad apples for years?

Kind of like how Northwestern backed a certain professor for years and years while he suborned perjury in an attempt to empty Illinois Death Row of dozens of heinous killers with the assistance of certain media types and a distinct aversion to actually telling the truth.

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46 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you can't do, teach; if you can't teach, indict.

11/24/2015 12:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think that seniority for teachers and tenure for professors also should be eliminated. It is impossible to fire anyone in these jobs even if they are ineffective in what they do. And, I just love the hours worked by teachers and professors.

11/24/2015 12:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just think we are paying all that money to send our kids to college to be taught by nutty professors. This country is doomed maybe isis will straighten this nonsense out.

11/24/2015 01:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sure Rahm and Rauner love listening to this guys anti Union nonsense.

11/24/2015 03:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now we know if we had no unions anywhere nothing wrong would ever happen! Glad that is finally made clear 👎! Let's keep tossing logs on the fire!

11/24/2015 05:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's get rid of tenure at universities.

11/24/2015 06:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tenured Professor? But that's OK.

11/24/2015 06:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're so off on Abbate being politically connected. He's currently on a do not hire list for any job with the City of Chicago, he never made it anywhere on the job outside of patrol, usually working the wagon or lockup at best. He was originally rejected off the list for failing the psyc evaluation during the hiring process but got in on a class action lawsuit, that I'm sure you SCC can recall, in which the department was found to be weeding out male white candidates with relation to police officers. No one tried to cover up for him when he stepped on his dick. The states attorney threw every and any frivulous felony charge at him for a misdemeanor simple battery once the video went viral. Which almost all failed to go anywhere but helped get at least 1 of the fabricated felony charges to stick. Most are probably not aware but before the viral video he was only charged with a misdemeanor. It may sound to you like I am but in no way do I stick up for what he did. He did wrong and he disgraced himself, his family and the whole department. He made his bed and will sleep in it till the day he dies. But you SCC can't move on and are always comparing him to or listing him as a clout baby and it's completely in error. I know him well and don't expect or ask for any simpathy but get your facts straight. This is no track record of someone with any kind of connections. If you can give 1 example of otherwise please prove me wrong.

11/24/2015 06:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh the city would LOVE to kill the FOP! Ram probably ghost wrote that article. Could you imagine? Reset our salary to $30,000. Cannot collect the pension until 70 yo. Remove seniority from all aspects.

11/24/2015 07:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a result of their advanced education,experience and training University Professor often do have all or most of the answers. That is why they are professors.

11/24/2015 07:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about Tenured professors who cannot be fired for almost any reasons? That's a good union also.

11/24/2015 07:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC,you've out done yourself again.

Bravo!

11/24/2015 07:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To all my fellow Officers out there, if you can leave by 01 June 2017, take the free health plan and leave. The longer you stay, you up the chances of losing
everything you have worked for. It is not worth the few xtra bucks you would make.
Understand nobody cares about us, we are on our own.

11/24/2015 07:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about the batshit crazy wife of a commander who threatened her partner and now sits pretty at 35th.

11/24/2015 07:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wish the officer who are being thrown under the bus luck.
The situations are screwed up and the City expects you to actually fix PCP screw ups with pretty words. But it was only a little PCP?!?
keep in mind how many rounds you fire the range will be changing the training again soon. Oh by the way Gary if someone elses life is in danger don't think this FETAL officers gonna fire his weapon. I will feel bad for a few week but in the end NI indictment and I keep my Gig.

11/24/2015 07:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Rauner agenda, make Illinois a third world country. The rich and the poor. Karen Lewis said it best yesterday, " if we have to, we will withhold our labor". I can't understand how society can deny the police through law the right to strike. If people want safety, pay!

11/24/2015 08:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't forget that the Area North lieutenant played grab ass with an unsuspecting gas station clerk in Kalamazoo which led to criminal charges. Funny how the victim had a change of mind and decided she didn't want to testify at trial. The luck some people have...

11/24/2015 08:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eh - classic divide/conquer. Apparently they're done vilifying the teachers as Union Thugs and now they're starting up with the cops. Can Streets & San be far behind?

11/24/2015 08:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

u forgot the recently promoted detective, who has been locked up twice for animal abuse

11/24/2015 09:07:00 AM  
Blogger SpankDaddy said...

Too bad professors don't run the world!!!!!!!!!!!!

11/24/2015 09:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Goof!

11/24/2015 09:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The lieutenant and commander are two different people with very similar names. One has an extra letter in the first name.

11/24/2015 09:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This happens when one lives in academia world vs real world.

11/24/2015 10:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a civilian, one of the things that irks me is that there are clear cases of shitbags who should have never been hired in the first place, or whose actions on the job should have led them to wearing handcuffs. But those are the people who never seem to be punished.

Clout is awesome if you have it.

11/24/2015 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have read a lot of comments on this blog by people who admire Rauner and promote his agenda. Truth is, he is a union buster who wants to gut collective bargaining. Watch out - its a slippery slope. If collective bargaining rights are taken from State and public workers police and fire will be next.

11/24/2015 10:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well done SCC. More and more nonsense from the media everyday we know. They carelessly put ridiculous articles out in the eye of the public just to further promote their own agenda. Our corrupt local Chicago media will never do real stories about the corrupt politicians or clout-heavy individuals.

11/24/2015 10:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Paddyrollingstone said...

This sounds like it was written by Bruce Rauner

11/24/2015 11:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whoa, whoa whoa! Wait a goddamn minute here! You have an exempt that pissed hot not once, but twice and is still on the job?

And your FOP is still allowing their rank and file memebrs to be subjected to testing?

If so then congratulations, you have the worst employee advocate organization in the country and you deserve to get screwed over by the political class.

11/24/2015 11:18:00 AM  
Anonymous 11th Dist King said...

Speaking of clouted people, a certain captain in 020 who should have been fired numerous times, for numerous reasons went IOD. She slipped on the "WET" floor by the back door. It is very interesting she did this after she was butting heads with a female commander. I bring this up because, PENNY for your thoughts, never gets along with females.

She brazenly stated, "I won't be back till the commander is gone". Nice, really nice. Just let me get this straight, if you dont get along with a supervisor, and you are clouted, just slip on the floor by the entrance and go IOD till that supervisor is gone.

I just love this job. This is the former commander of 011 who was demoted for threatening another police officer and got arrested for it. Wish I had a PENNY for every time she did something wrong.

11/24/2015 11:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Union contracts and civil service regulations make it difficult, and at times impossible, to dismiss bad cops.

How about the Teachers going first on this and blaze a trail

11/24/2015 12:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You left out the Rapist Sgt. who's still Job. Guess it doesn't hurt when Mommy is a retired Commander.

11/24/2015 12:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Northwestern. That's all I need to say.

11/24/2015 12:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Police better stay locked in their squad car.

11/24/2015 02:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ummmmm....Go Fuck Yourself you over paid lopsided thinker.

11/24/2015 02:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You say that a cop can be arrested for a sex beef and then be promoted and put in charge of sex crime investigations ?
I don't believe it, just can't happen.

11/24/2015 02:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

15 May 2017 can't come fast enough 55 I'm gone.

11/24/2015 03:43:00 PM  
Blogger Frank Drebin said...

I wonder if the good professor feels the same way about the university's tenure system as he feels about the right to collective bargaining. Just asking......

11/24/2015 04:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You left out the Rapist Sgt. who's still Job. Guess it doesn't hurt when Mommy is a retired Commander.


Don't forget he was recently involved in a sex scandal in 014 on midnights. The female filed a lawsuit. He is now on 2nd watch. Stay tuned....

11/24/2015 05:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Whoa, whoa whoa! Wait a goddamn minute here! You have an exempt that pissed hot not once, but twice and is still on the job?

And your FOP is still allowing their rank and file memebrs to be subjected to testing?

If so then congratulations, you have the worst employee advocate organization in the country and you deserve to get screwed over by the political class.

11/24/2015 11:18:00 AM

%%%%

Just wondering how long have you been in the Personal Concern Program?

11/24/2015 06:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

[Police] TEACHER unions are quite powerful. Most states compel local jurisdictions to collectively bargain with police unions, and bargaining can be wide-ranging. The unions have used bargaining to resist [body cameras and GPS tracking] testing of teachers, and collective bargaining agreements almost always provide for binding arbitration for any significant disciplinary action taken against [officers] TEACHERS — a system stacked heavily in favor of [police] TEACHERS.

There, I fixed it for you Professor.

11/24/2015 07:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Didn't Chicago hire a senior police officer that was caught shooting up public property while drunk? Some guy named McStreetlights?

11/24/2015 07:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To all my fellow Officers out there, if you can leave by 01 June 2017, take the free health plan and leave

good luck.i heard the same bs 5 years ago and am now looking at paying almost $30K for my retiree healthcare family plan with no health insurance offered by the city in 2017.

11/24/2015 08:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

I have read a lot of comments on this blog by people who admire Rauner and promote his agenda. Truth is, he is a union buster who wants to gut collective bargaining. Watch out - its a slippery slope. If collective bargaining rights are taken from State and public workers police and fire will be next.

11/24/2015 10:57:00 AM

Bullshit. Get off the Blog, Union-Hack Commie.

11/24/2015 08:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Don't forget that the Area North lieutenant played grab ass with an unsuspecting gas station clerk in Kalamazoo which led to criminal charges. Funny how the victim had a change of mind and decided she didn't want to testify at trial. The luck some people have...

11/24/2015 08:48:00 AM


You mean the one who was paid off and the Feds did nothing once again ?

11/24/2015 08:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rainer is trying to bust unions, whatever else you think of him. And so is almost every other politician. You can admire some things about Rainer, but that's what he, and others, want to do.

11/25/2015 09:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Happy Thanksgiving to all of the men and woman of law enforcement. All of my brothers and sisters. Keep your heads up high. Right about now it feels a bit like when Ditka was leaving the Bears. Remember what he said 'This to will pass. Be smart and stay safe.

11/25/2015 11:42:00 PM  

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