Run Away!
People are still running away from Illinois as fast as their cars can take them:
- The U.S. Census Bureau report released Dec. 22 is compelling evidence that Illinois needs pro-growth, pro-jobs reforms. The report shows that Illinois recorded its first six-digit loss of residents to other states, with Illinois losing 105,000 more people to other states than it gained from July 2014 to July 2015.
The “border war” losses were so bad that Illinois’ total population shrank by 22,000 people on the year, the worst ever. Similar to last year’s 2013-2014 data, Illinois is the only state in the region to have a shrinking population.
One resident every five minutes. A resident, most likely a tax paying resident with a decent education and more than a few prospects, choosing to exercise those prospects elsewhere. An unsustainable model if ever we saw one. Great job Illinois voters!
Labels: state politics
posted by SCC at 12:33 AM
56 Comments:
Good, take away some of Illinois electoral college votes and give them to one of the growing red states.
I would tend to blame the loss of population on climate change and a worsening of northern Illinois' climate. Frigid winters.
Only productive citizens can pick up and move out and start somewhere fresh, not some parasite who lives off of welfare who has never left their area code. Tradesmen , business people, truck drivers and any professional with at least a 4 year degree should move out of Illinois because the only ones who will be standing when this place falls apart are the welfare parasites and the mega rich, neither of which have to work for the remainder of their lives.
HEY - that is one study that is DEAD ON accurate.
Saying good-bye to brother-in-law, his wife, and kid - all going to Florida Dec. 31th.
PLUS, wife's cousin and his family going down to another part of Florida.
White Flight? Yep.
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The gp of R&D has been out of work for the past week and a half.
All her days off have been accounted for on the A&A's has her having worked all of them.
The kids don't go back to school until Jan 4th.
Hey, maybe the new interim Superintendent might want to step up and handle this gp.
No one at IAD seems to care that this theft is going on.
At least the last residents remaining will still be dumocrats... not one will be a tax payer, but still a dumocrat.
In less than a year, I will retire from the Chiraq PD. My wife and I are out of here. Illinois is the worst state in the nation for out-migration and fiscal responsibility. The charts on the link provided by SCC are interesting.
There are seven states with no state income tax. In alphabetical order, they are Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington and Wyoming. In addition, New Hampshire and Tennessee only tax interest and dividends.
Effective next week on New Year's Day, Shitcago, Crook County, Ill-Annoy will have the highest sales tax in the nation at 10.25%.
Why doesn't the FOP do an exhaustive study of the above factors as well as sales taxes, property taxes, etc. in the other 49 states so in retirement, we can choose where to jump rapidly from this financially doomed state? I would also prefer to live in a "red" state. I can't stand these damn liberal, Democratic politicians and their parasitic constituents. They are destroying our once great nation.
Based on the average non-Democratic vote in the last two presidential elections, the following "red" states are listed in order by the percentage (in parentheses) of their respective electorates that did NOT vote for the current president: Utah (70.4), Wyoming (69.8), Oklahoma (66.2), Idaho (65.6), Arkansas (62.1), Alabama (61.5), West Virginia (60.9), Alaska (60.7), Kentucky (60.5), Nebraska (60.2), Kansas (60.2), Louisiana (59.7), Tennessee (59.5), North Dakota (58.3), South Dakota (57.7), Texas (57.5), Mississippi (56.6), Montana (55.5), South Carolina (55.5), Arizona (55.1), Georgia (53.8), Missouri (53.2), Indiana (53.1) and North Carolina (51.0).
Let's call a spade a spade. If you have any options, you will leave. The fact that you are held hostage here as city employees is the only reason most don't live over the border in Indiana or Wisconsin, or at least in a suburb of Chiraq. Anyone who stays here and has an option to leave is a complete degenerate. Choosing to stay in a city, county and state known for the highest taxes resulting from the highest and most despicable levels of corruption is a sign of pure stupidity. Staying and continuing to vote for the democrat shits that caused it means you are a criminal moron yourself, or so utterly stupid that you deserve what you get for staying.
They're not really leaving, they all left the wife's wedding dress in a storeroom in the basement, that way, when the current altitude challenged midget leaves office, they can return to claim the crumbs left over. I'm surprised that minijag and the fifty thieves haven't claimed that everyone that pays taxes can't leave and has to continue to render tributes because of a forced lifetime residency rule.
Ain't no way I'm signing my name to this, the emperor has juice as far as Havana
Last one out shut the lights off, if ComEd hasn't turned off the power for lack of payment by the state.
Yes, yep, certainly. This description applies to me. Since retirement from CPD I have seen my quality of life away from Illinois is MUCH greater (income, weather, crime, a fraction of corruption from the elected, I could go on but that would be rude), wake up and leave.
But how many illegals migrated to Chicago/Illinois, and had kids here, in that time? Hmmmmm?
No one ever asked the voters if we wanted to make this City a sanctuary. The politicians took it on themselves to decree so.
Tax payers being replaced by tax suckers.
Yup, gassing mine up as we speak.
I hate this fucking City and State! I can't wait to retire and leave this place for good too! This from a life long born and raised Illinois resident! I want to turn my back on Illinois in a heartbeat! I want to kill my relatives for stopping in Illlinois back in the day!
The only people left will be gov't workers and people working for companies the Democrats give tax breaks to.
I can no longer afford the property taxes, so I am looking to get out.
Detroit here we are.
We moved to Fl and are loving every minute here.
GRD has been dispanded as of the 1st period. All are going back to partil under the area deputy chiefs.
Start by cutting welfare so the right people hightail it out of town.
South suburbs middle class people leaving Cook County to NW Indiana. Taxes much less. Been happening for many years. St John IN new housing increasing yearly.
You fail to mention all the new immigrants that Illinois is gaining from both the Mideast and from south of our border. These immigrants and their children will be the backbone and spark plug of a vibrant state in 20 years time.
Can't blame them. In a few more years I'll be relocating to another state where they actually have fiscal responsibility. Until people start voting for financially conservative reforms here, it will continue to get worse. Bottom line, we cannot afford to subsidize every aspect of people's daily life. The number of productive workers in this country is dropping while the non-working, government dependent scammers continue to increase.
There's one other thing that this Mass Exodus from *The Peoples Republic of Madiganistan* effects besides the Tax Base that everyone pretty much overlooks: Electoral College Votes.
A state gets One Electoral College Vote per 565,166 people (there's a couple exceptions). And thanks to folks fleeing Madiganistan, this Population Exodus means we've went from a high of 29 EC Votes in 1930, to 20 EC Votes for the upcoming 2016 election.
And though most us know, but many don't thanks to rotten schools & teachers, Population also determines how many seats a state gets in the U.S. House of Representatives -- the drop in one is a drop in another. The result is that not only is IL less important in presidential elections (it's why nobody breaks our door down campaigning here) but also less important in Congress and the Federal Government in general.
So you really have to hand it to DemonRATS, they've hit the Trifecta.
--- 1) We're less important in elections.
--- 2) We're Less important in Congress & government
and last but not least.....
--- 3) We're going broke in the goddamn process!!
They couldn't have done 'better' if they'd planned this. Then again, knowing demonRATS, maybe they did.
To quote the words of J-Fled, GOTTA RUN!
Ironically, long term trends predict Northern Illinois will be the most sought over area in the country. Most parts of the country are experiencing droughts and expensive water prices.
The predictions are in 20 years the Great Lakes Area will become the vitality of the country.
" Anonymous Anonymous said...
"You fail to mention all the new immigrants that Illinois is gaining from both the Mideast and from south of our border. These immigrants and their children will be the backbone and spark plug of a vibrant state in 20 years time."
12/24/2015 09:36:00 AM"
Posting to SCC again Rahm?
Castro hooked you up with internet in Cuba apparently.
I have a friend who live in Wisconsin he tells me that surround state have bill boards on the boarders with Illinois inviting business to crossover. I would imagine that Texas is actively recruiting.
I am long time resident of Wyoming, parts of my family have been here since the 1870's. To those of you looking for a place to retire, Wyoming would be a great place to do so. We have a low cost of living, right now gasoline is $1.79 cents a gallon. I have been everywhere in the State when I was a member of the 67th Army Band a Wyoming ARNG unit. My favorite area is around Torrington which is North West of Cheyenne. Compared to Chicago this part of Wyoming has a tropical climate.
Au Contraire Mon AMI!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Only productive citizens can pick up and move out and start somewhere fresh, not some parasite who lives off of welfare who has never left their area code. Tradesmen , business people, truck drivers and any professional with at least a 4 year degree should move out of Illinois because the only ones who will be standing when this place falls apart are the welfare parasites and the mega rich, neither of which have to work for the remainder of their lives.
12/24/2015 01:05:00 AM
Back In the day, we tracked a couple of goofs who enjoyed preying on welfare queens for the usual bennies, sex and money. The ladies got smart, and left for Wisconsin, with better welfare payments. Our POlice impersonator stats fell way down. Then the ladies moved to Minnesota, same reason. So did the dime store badge brigade. But one of the ladies returned, maybe to pick up a check she overlooked, and stopped by to complain about the dim & Dum following their trail.
So, we spoke to the gents, just for culture, to see what the latest migratory trend were. It was simple, "you follow the money."
Ever so happy to be retired, out of state.
This is true. Ask any manufacturer in the state. Wisc and Indiana offer a boat load of incentives to relocate. The company contacts the state to see if Illinois will match any and Illinois tells them to go pound sand. We live in the most fuc--d up city, county, and state. And it's a game to the politicians. Can't wait to get out.
and all the while Madigan and Cullerton try to figure out why the people are leaving. Answer. they hate the corrupt politicians.
At one time, I wanted to leave the country, but for various reasons, that just wasn't feasible. So, I did the next best thing. I moved from the liberal hellhole that is the People's republic of Illinois to Montana. It was the best decision of my life. I see the snow-covered peaks of the Rocky mountains everyday. Things are cheaper here and one is not frowned upon here for carrying or wanting to carry a gun for self-defense. I'm not retired by the way. I'm just a professional who had to get out of the hellhole that is Illinois.
My entire family fled IL in 2015. Our regret is that we didn't do it five years sooner.
Anonymous said...
GRD has been dispanded as of the 1st period. All are going back to partil under the area deputy chiefs.
12/24/2015 08:42:00 AM
Partil???
Every tax increase should come with a RD for theft. Good portion of every tax dollar is just plain stolen from us.
I just retired looking now at places to move to, the only problem both daughters still live in this pathetic link card, illegally flooded state! Any ideas where to go in the state?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Only productive citizens can pick up and move out and start somewhere fresh, not some parasite who lives off of welfare who has never left their area code. Tradesmen , business people, truck drivers and any professional with at least a 4 year degree should move out of Illinois because the only ones who will be standing when this place falls apart are the welfare parasites and the mega rich, neither of which have to work for the remainder of their lives.
Not true....Cops and firemen are productive, but the hiring procedures prevent us from just picking up and moving.....yet I had an old tenant move from Chicago to Ohio because as she put it "the welfare in Ohio is better"
You fail to mention all the new immigrants that Illinois is gaining from both the Mideast and from south of our border. These immigrants and their children will be the backbone and spark plug of a vibrant state in 20 years time.
Bullshit!...These mostly illegals don't pay taxes, get free handouts, and get paid under the table. They fly the flags of their children and don't care about this country. They may work hard sometimes, but only to remit their money to their home countries
I Buy guns ammo gas groceries almost everything outside of cook county. Once in awhile I have to buy a small meal or coffee in cook only cause I'm stuck at work. The best thing for the States surrounding Illinois are Illinois politicians! They're Just dumb business people.
Old Retired Guy Here Again...........! If every one is fleeing Chicago and Illinois, Why are the streets, and expressways filled with traffic 24/7 ? Why do I see a lot of construction, going on downtown ? I am not doubting your statistics, I just don't see the evidence.
Quality of life. We moved to Wi from a lower tax state, but north eastern wisconsin. Our property taxes are high, but we bought a nice house dirt cheap, food is dirt cheap, great hunting, fishing, etc.
We spend a little more in taxes, but get an astronomically greater amount back in quality of life. And money wise, lower cost of living makes it all a wash financially.
Do your research when it comes time and consider all that you value.
Past 2 winters have driven a lot of people away. But pay attention to other areas of Chicago. Population is exploding. Illinois as a whole is a shit nothing state without Chicago. Despite the fact Chicago is always Blue. If it weren't for Chicago this state would be nothing.
It's a Catch 22. We dislike the state and the city, yet when we and others leave the state, who will be left to pay our pensions after we retire?
If everyone could agree on one week, or even one day, when no one signed up for VRI, the taxpayers and politicians would see what would happen to the city without police presence. The city needs to hire more police officers, and by working so much VRI, we are ensuring that the future will hold fewer officers paying into the pension fund.
I retired and left this year. Best move I ever made. Don't want to tell people where I went because I don't want Chicago people to follow. Cost of living is half and quality of life is beyond belief. People are friendly and crime seems non existent compared to Chicago. Why didn't I go ten years ago. Believe me , politicians are robbing the city/state blind.
I just retired looking now at places to move to, the only problem both daughters still live in this pathetic link card, illegally flooded state! Any ideas where to go in the state?
12/24/2015 04:01:00 PM
Depends on your interests.
What do you want to do in retirement?
If it weren't for Chicago this state would be nothing.
It would be something, livable.
problem is the 100 lost are probably good, bright, tax-paying citizens
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Old Retired Guy Here Again...........! If every one is fleeing Chicago and Illinois, Why are the streets, and expressways filled with traffic 24/7 ? Why do I see a lot of construction, going on downtown ? I am not doubting your statistics, I just don't see the evidence.
12/24/2015 09:20:00 PM
Lived in Chicago my whole life. Grew up in 60'-70's. There was NEVER this much traffic congestion back then, when we had over three million people living in the city. I can hardly navigate around my neighborhood anymore, it is packed with people that don't speak English as a first language. There is well over three million in the city, the politicians just don't want to wake up Americans by telling them the actual numbers because it would be torches and pitchforks time. Thank you politicians for purposely destroying this country.
As a life long, born and raised Chicago Resident, I already turned my back on this crappy City and State and can't wait to retire and move for good!
I have already started to root for all sports teams in Arizona!
Go Diamondbacks! Go Coyotes! Go Suns!
Go Cardinals! [An Ex-Chicago Football, Team by the way]
To HELL with this City and State!
Cheeseheads tax your pension. The City is for men Wisconsin is for boys.
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Quality of life. We moved to Wi from a lower tax state, but north eastern wisconsin. Our property taxes are high, but we bought a nice house dirt cheap, food is dirt cheap, great hunting, fishing, etc.
We spend a little more in taxes, but get an astronomically greater amount back in quality of life. And money wise, lower cost of living makes it all a wash financially.
Do your research when it comes time and consider all that you value.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Old Retired Guy Here Again...........! If every one is fleeing Chicago and Illinois, Why are the streets, and expressways filled with traffic 24/7 ? Why do I see a lot of construction, going on downtown ? I am not doubting your statistics, I just don't see the evidence.
12/24/2015 09:20:00 PM
Lived in Chicago my whole life. Grew up in 60'-70's. There was NEVER this much traffic congestion back then, when we had over three million people living in the city. I can hardly navigate around my neighborhood anymore, it is packed with people that don't speak English as a first language. There is well over three million in the city, the politicians just don't want to wake up Americans by telling them the actual numbers because it would be torches and pitchforks time. Thank you politicians for purposely destroying this country.
12/25/2015 10:12:00 AM
Bike lanes restrict traffic flow, cameras restrict traffic flow, planters restrict traffic flow, stop signs in the middle of every block's crosswalks restrict traffic flow, outdoor cafes in PARKING SPACES restrict traffic flow, unpainted, poorly marked streets restrict traffic flow, unrepaired potholes restrict traffic flow, speed bumps on every side street restrict traffic flow...
Can't understand what your issue with traffic could be. ;-)
Yes, the quality of those leaving matters more than the quantity. Whole swaths of this city don't pay a dime of freight. Best wishes to all, this is tearing lots of good families apart, but the trajectory has turned decidedly negative. Who knows where the tipping is? Just don't find youself owning a useless box of air in this city once that point has been passed. Bigger changes ahead - at least in the 60s & 70s there was still some productive businesses around - now it's all diploma mills, emergency rooms, and holding cells.
looking for cheap but horrible place to retire try Maywood,ill or as I call west Austin a wonderful town full of liquor stores and beauty also there is a downtown ice cream shop that rumor has it is selling a little bit more than ice cream if you know what I mean
I say it's from higher taxes than other states and due to corrupt politicians.
They will lose a few more when I retire.....................
There are a lot of young impressionable young people moving to Chicago from out of state. Just this year I met three of them on three different occassions. They all do not know or care about corruption in Illinois/Cook/Chicago. They are making good money and live in Lakeview,River North or downtown. They all said they love it here and would never leave Chicago. All they care about is making money and partying on weekends. All their out of state friends are also coming here. Just sayin.
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