New Contact Card Order
The roll out isn't until 01 January, but the Order was published this weekend for your reading pleasure. It's only 16 pages long and lists a whole bunch of things you will, shall, and must do, along with the requisite definitions, supervisor responsibilities and retention information.
Most ridiculous so far? You will fill out an "Investigatory Stop Report" even when you arrest someone, a clear duplication of effort keeping you off the street on paperwork instead of....you know....fighting crime.
Brilliant.
Most ridiculous so far? You will fill out an "Investigatory Stop Report" even when you arrest someone, a clear duplication of effort keeping you off the street on paperwork instead of....you know....fighting crime.
Brilliant.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:35 AM
205 Comments:
I wont need to read it since my "stopping shit-heads" days are over. If officers no longer stop the mutts as was done in Baltimore, we would tell the mayor who's boss.
This was discussed in 025 dist roll call. States attorney's will be looking for discrepancies in investigatory street stop report, GO case report and arrest report. Any discrepancies found will be used against the officer and kept track of for any future cases the officer maybe involved in.
If you stop a corner full of savages ... Let's say 5 you have to do 5 investigatory street stop reports and you better make sure they are all the same!
01 Jan 16.... The death of pro active policing in Chiraq
025th dist dog ... And proud of it!
Stay fetal my friends!
I blame Karen Murphy for this crappy order. Like the part that says you fill it out for a traffic tickets and then in the next section says you don't. On the plus side, get one in the beginning of your tour and you can hold yourself down til check off.
VIII A 2. In addition, Investigatory Stop Reports will be submitted for all Investigatory Stops and Protective Pat Downs that lead to an arrest, Personal Service Citation, Administrative Notice of Violation (ANOV), Curfew Violation Report, School Absentee Report, or other enforcement action.
VIII A 4.a. An officer performs a traffic stop on a vehicle after observing the vehicle run a stop sign. The officer issues the driver a Personal Service Citation for failure to stop at a stop sign, and completes and affixes a Traffic Stop Statistical Study sticker to the appropriate copy of the Personal Service Citation consistent with the Department directive "Illinois Traffic Stop Statistical Study." An Investigatory Stop Report will not be completed.
So which is it?
Well it's been a good run. Too bad I have 9 mores years to go. Not sure what I'll do with myself?!
Just answer your calls that is all.
Leaves one to wonder if dumb politicians are not inclined to decrease crime in in this city. And Deputy Secretary of some section of the US Homeland Security Office is seen on YouTube testifying before a Congressional Committee that she does not know how many Visas, etc...or Numbers of persons are out-standing. In fact, she appears to barely speak....Taxpayers dollars at work once again. Oh, for the good old days.
Stay Fetal
Fighting crime??? Are there still coppers doing that?
Make sure they smile nicely for the Body Camera too!
This is the nail in the coffin. Anyone doing street stops, traffic stops, anovs, or any other sort of proactive police work aside from answering your calls for service need their heads examined. Proactive police work will be dead. They have taken all the fun out of this job. Self preservation boys and gals.
Oohhh nnooo! ...
Paper reduction plan followed by computer duplication plan.
So endeth police work as was once known.
Arm yourselves good citizens for police officers will hence not be fighting crime nor available to keep you and your families safe, but populating useless computer screens in order to satisfy the monster called liberal political correctness.
The bureaucratic mind is a complex and convoluted thing. A wonder to behold.
It's simple. Don't stop anybody
Here's the order.
Consult your attorney before doing ANY police work kids:
http://directives.chicagopolice.org/directives/data/a7a57b99-151b6927-49f15-1b69-2c32e99868b316b0.pdf?hl=true
NICE!!! Policing as I knew it is over. I came on in 1994 and it's a whole different world. Now they will have the worm and fuzzy Police...
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/20/off-duty-baltimore-cop-kills-robbery-suspect-brandishing-toy-gun.html
An off duty Baltimore copper shot and killed a man who tried to rob him using a toy gun. Apparently he had his service weapon in his bag and acted like he was going to hand over his wallet as he went for his weapon. The robber had a toy gun that looked like a real revolver and the veteran PO didn't know it was fake until after he killed the guy. The MSM (that stands for mainstream media, not men who ave sex with men, just in case you aren't clear on that yet) makes this out to be a mistake on the part of the off duty copper, and doesn't place the fault nearly as much on the offender, much like when they keep blaming the Cleveland officer who shot he kid plaing with his toy gun, and saying he was deemed unfit for duty and shouldn't have shot the 13 yo who had been taking his hands out of his pockets when it looked like he was reaching for a gun in his waistband. The good guys never win in the eyes of the press. You're damned if you do, and damned if you don't. Stay safe everyone!
Dog asses win! Join our ranks, you fools. it was inevitable.
And yet there'll be no shortage of Hair Gels knocking a few of these down every night at the request of Bossholes that'll leave them twisting in the wind when the shit hits the fan.
And still SMH that you're (I say "you're" because I'll never write one - guaranteed) required to provide Dude a receipt with your name and button... might as well also provide him with an itemized list of assets to forward to his attorney for your Civil Rights suit.
And the mere fact that this order is 16 pages long practically ensures that 90% of those it most potentially effects won't read it. Ain't no time for that noise when they're slingin' blows at Thirty-Fourth and Vine like it's going out of style.
But hey, that hour duck or getting to be The Millennial Police in jeans and flannels is, like - OMG!! - totally worth it!
Wake up, Kiddies. Things are getting more and more real every day around this joint.
Ding Dong, policing's dead. Everyone should have stopped writing these idiot cards a long time ago. But there will still be people who don't read the order and refuse to believe the climate of policing and will keep writing them.
HELLO????
Don't stop anyone, don't do anything other than respond to calls and if you must, on-view incidents. Blinders come in handy.
If you don't write contact cards you don't even need to read the order.
This is the biggest problem with the current Fop administration. Laws/legislation like this will pass because Dean has no clue what he is doing. Starting next month when we have contact with someone on the street we have to give them a receipt with our name and star#. This passed because no one from FOP took a stance against this in Springfield. I know that is hard to believe, but anytime there is a bill in Springfield it goes to committee. At that committee meeting Fop could have explained why this is bad legislation. Fop failed us again. Bills like this will continue to pass because Dean has no clue how this is important to policing. They will get whatever they want because no one is fighting for us.
The City should just give me a rope instead and I'll just go hang myself on the nearest tree in the woods! Screw u and these stupid contact cards! What a waste of time and paper!
How long will it be for these contact cards to be piled up in the trunk of our squad cars, not getting used! It will be like tow case reports with coffee stains on them! Good luck in getting me to fill this stupidity out now!
The only arrest I do now are holding the offender or anything on a signed complaint. The more I am OFF the street the closer I get to retirement. This new order means I will do NO proactive work
Crime fighting and crime prevention are a thing of the past. The new law of the land is now documenting crime and that's all. Stay fetal my friends.
The only contact you should do these days is to tell lawful citizens to arm themselves. The police will no longer be proactive in stopping the common everyday criminal! The everyday criminal will learn to fear those who conceal carry. The police should just wait at the station until a call comes out. Depending on the situation maybe a few cars are dispatched. The rest of the officers can work out while they wait for a call others officers can make food in the mess hall until they are in the rotation. There will be sleeping quarters for those who return from the fight they had with a mental who tried to disarm them and tried biting their nose off! After some rest they can grab a bite from the mess hall and be ready for there turn in the rotation. This can be done in 24 hour shifts! This is perfect very little interaction with public and you work only about 90 days a year!
I live the part where all these reports have to be submitted by the end of the tour AND they have to be approved by a sgt by the end of each tour! Haha. Good luck sgts !!
I just read the order. All I can say is, if you put yourself in a situation where you have to complete the new report you are a FOOL. My responsibility as a boss has always been to ensure the safety and well-being of the guys who work for me. It will continue to be my main focus. Hear me when I tell you that you must answer your radio. Proceed to your jobs in a safe manner. As for the rest, I don't give a goddam if anyone on the watch ever does another traffic ticket, ANOV or dope pinch. EVER. Give the community what they want and let chaos reign.
Sit on your hands boys and girls.
I stopped writing contact cards for about 3 months now, so this really doesn't effect me, but its good to know. I don't think I will ever write another contact card now.
I am so very confused.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
I hope the good citizens are qualifying with CC and arming themselves. They're gonna need it.
If that's what they want, fine. Police officers are now just armed insurance adjusters. Making reports for insurance claims. (thefts, burglaries, auto accidents, etc.)
How disorganized is this department? We have 10 days to train 13,000 police officers on this new law. I am not talking about training on the department computer but classroom training. That is why the D.O.J. is here, this POLICE DEPARTMENT is so backwards. How the hell are you going to train 13,000 police officers in 10 days??? But the department had time to move all the brass around real fast. The Mayor is the biggest Problem!! F. O. P. you need to speak more!!
I know the feeling SCC. We just got a similar order in our suburban department right near Chicago. Only ours is 2pgs. This Investigatory Stop card BS is ridiculous. Just as it is ridiculous for traffic stops/citations. Complete waste of time and just another piece of ammo the ACLU will use to try and claim police are "profiling" and "racist". You mean more blacks are stopped for investigative-purposes in 3, 4, 6, 7, 15?? No way! It sure doesn't happen to the the fact those are primarily black areas! You must be racist, lol
Blame Ralph Price, Bill Bazarek and Steve Patton. Two of whom are not the police and the other never was.
WTF is wrong with these FRIGGIN MORONS....Yeeeeeesh.............
Won't matter to me. I only answer my calls and come clear right away. There is not one damn thing on this job that sets an Officer up to be successful. All you hard chargers out there... And don't give me that homefront bullshit. We don't stick together. And it will only get worse. You put your lives on the line, but that's not enough. Most of you will not be happy until you get jammed up and fired. Im done... I have my pension. Been out a glorious year now. However... Not once in my years have I seen us stick together.
Your FOP has, and always will fail you. Take charge for once. No VRI. No Special. Write mover after mover and block the street when making those stops (GRIDLOCK). Backlogs. But, we are to dumb to stick together so never mind.
I am an old retired Lt with 32 yrs on the job. My sympathy goes out to all the men and women wearing blue.
If you continue to make street stops and continue aggressive preventive patrol you are putting yourself and your family at risk for a city that will throw you under the bus.
sit back and watch the circus until the voters wake up
When in doubt, baffle them with tons of BS paperwork.
Double the paper, means double the stats
No stops, no arrests, problem solved.
Reactive, not proactive, put that on the side of the cars.
Stay fetal.
At this point why would you stop anybody much less want to fight crime ?
So you can be threatened with the possibility of going to jail yourself ?
Fuck that !!!! Say what you want ! But I'm done , I'll answer calls and write a report!
I'd rather get fired for no action if they want to fire me than to be thrown in jail for doing
My job
Dept. is a joke, not even going to do my 5 contact cards for VRI. Looks like I'm going to start writing movers again for my other 5 or get 2 curfews. Boys and girls it's about time to send a message and kill the contact card. Oh you boys in units and tact well you don't have a choice. Let me not forget if you start to get pressure by supervisors at roll call to write them start recording roll call so we get it on tape for the Dept of Justice or ACLU to hear it.
Well, part 1 of McCarthy's legacy. Thanks asshole.
Good luck with this new bullshit and contact card rules. I've got less then three years left and I'm not stopping anyone. I do everything possible not to fill these cards out and that's difficult working seven. I think in the future someone is going to investigate the contact cards and use same to prosecute you for something you never knew existed. This is what we have become, the Contact Card Poolice. Sorry, but many others are of the same mind set and do little in crime fighting.
The most shocking part, is that if you submit a contact card that does not show proper PC for the stop, THE SUPERVISOR IS TO FORWARD THE CARD TO IAD/IPRA.....
Some people still love us.
This is from the front page of the bulletin from St. Christina's. Posted at district 22:
To all of our dedicated members of the Chicago Police Force.
In light of recent events and the negativity of some groups toward Police Officers, we want you to know how much we appreciate and admire your strength, courage and dedication in the protection of all people in the City of Chicago.
As Priests, we know all too well how some who let temptation in and stray away from God can tarnish the reputation of all in that calling. With faith and trust in God we persist in our call and continue to follow the Will of God for our lives. We do this out of our love for God and because Jesus Christ showed us the way.
Being a Police Officer is a tough job. In many ways we can relate your life to that of Jesus Christ. Christ watched over His sheep. You watch over the people of the City. Christ came to save souls. You protect the lives of those souls. Christ sacrificed His life for us by dying on the cross. You sacrifice your life for us by putting yourself in harm's way. You risk your life by walking into situations that are unknown, all in the pursuit of keeping us safe.
Christ was rejected and persecuted by many because they feared Him and didn't want to understand His way. Now you are being rejected and persecuted out of fear and misplaced anger. Christ said those who follow me will be persecuted. So know that you are in good company.
We are so very proud of you! You make a big difference in the lives of the people of Chicago. We admire you for your service. Please know that we pray for you each and every day. God will bless you, watch over you and keep you safe.
Thank you for your faith-filled dedication. You were called by the Lord to be a servant of God. Thank you for your "yes" in service to the greater good.
May God bless you and your families.
Fr. Tom Conde Fr. Michael Olson Fr. Tom Purtell
P.S. We are here for you. Please know that. When you need an ear to bend... bend ours.
Saint Christina Catholic Parish
11005 S Homan Ave, Chicago, IL 60655 :(773) 779-7181
After talking with an attorney I now realize that police officers have no privacy.
The audio systems that the activists and the City are forcing on us will not only pick up conversations with citizens we interact with but also private conversations that we have with our fellow employees. When we vent about an individual that we had contact with afterwards, in the privacy of our vehicle, that conversation will be recorded. If any deems that our conversation was inappropriate, even though it was private, we are opening ourselves up to discipline.
If we are having marital problems and our spouse hires an attorney that attorney can review conversations between partners after filing an FOIA request.
Also, I can see trial lawyers listening to hundred of hours of our private conversations hoping to find an inappropriate comment to utilize to further their claims. They will then demand that the City pay them for listening to these conversations.
What will Ralph Price, FOP and the City do to protect our privacy?
Nothing I fear!
Yeahhhhh ummm I am not going to worry about that. I am such a great police officer that no one would ever dare commit criminal activity in front of me so I wont ever need to fill out a contact card. I truly believe that just like most bosses believe that my job is to generate activity to make them look good and move up through the ranks.
Breaking News Flash!!!!! Motorist on Las Vegas strip intentionally strikes 30 pedestrians. 1 killed and dozens sent to hospitals. When will this carnage stop???? Why aren't these motor vehicles banned???? This is happening all too often and America is becoming numb to the fact that so many motor vehicles are used in these senseless acts of violence. The legislators just turn a blind eye to this car violence because they're bought and payed for by the powerful auto industry that believes in absolutely no vehicle restriction imposition. Contact your senator and tell him you are fed up with this vehicle violence and you're not gonna take it anymore. And while your at it call president sparkle farts and tell him the same thing! This is a national disgrace and a black eye to the psyche of this country.
"Protective Pat Down of the person, there must be reasonable suspicion of criminal activity and reasonable suspicion that the person is armed and dangerous or presents a danger of attack."
Now they're just adding their own perimeters. There's no state or federal law that says that. If someone has a weapon while I'm interacting with them, I'm going to take possession of it regardless of what they say their intended use of it is.
So now it's not enough that the person is armed, but I also have to articulate why they're dangerous? "Sir, I have to ask. Do you plan on using this knife in your pocket for anything dangerous?" "Nope. Just goin sit out here and whittle a stick."
Does that count as contact cards for VRIi ?
What a surprise more duplication. More paper and more waste of paper and time on a paperless department. We are a joke! This is all fine with me. It just means they don't want me to be the police and I understand and will just respond to my calls as required. It also means I will be out of harms way more often by sitting in the station doing paper. Cool. Thanks loving public. You made my job so much easier. This is what happens when politicians and fake community leaders become proactive.
cant wait to see how long the RAP is gonna be now. Less stops= Less court time= less needed judges, ASAs, IDOC workers, etc. Let the layoffs begin
If only there way a unit that overlooked the computer system for the Department. If there was such a unit they could link the arrest report info with these cards with a check-mark. But since the arrest reports are unfix-able and unable to be changed, being that they use out of date programming, I don't see that happening.
OT
Wow Chris Fusco, I'm impressed you had the gumption to report what the gang bangers do and to show pictures of the little bastards shamelessly flaunting their guns and gang affiliations. Quite a difference from the usual Sun-Times articles kicking the fuck out of CPD. I'm sure Mary Mitchell and Neil Steinberg are crossing you off their Secret Santa list. I'm sure you look upon your work as different than your fellow Sun-Times cohorts and that you are not in the same boat as they are so to speak. Unfortunately it's too little, too late. The SS Sun-Times and the rest of the media fleet has sunk the USS CPD with their lie by omission brand of yellow journalism. The continual bombardment is like the Japanese bombing the USS Arizona for years after it was already on the bottom of Pearl Harbor.
Merry Christmas, I bet your work party is a hoot.
lol. This department and city are so fucked.
This is before the Justice Deoartment makes their mandates, er recommendations!
This job is swirling down the toilet.
Just keep piling on more paper in what was supposed to be a "paperless" efficient system. And who the hell wants all the aggravation of locking these mutts up just to give them more opportunity and incentive to scam the system so they can sue and collect money for any frivolous complaint? The retardation of this city/department knows no bounds.
When you have to fill them out and the idiotic receipt are the only changes. The reason for stopping and doing your protective pat downs hasn't changed a bit. Telling the boys we need more contact cards will be roll call humor though. These morons want a new age department and their going to get exactly that. Silent majority enjoy the crime wave that's coming!!
Goodbye police work.
Let the wimps at ACLU police the streets.
11-Paul
11-Eddie
5-Frank
5-Eddie
19-Paul
19-Frank
Done.
The poet-protester is accused of a sexual assault by a female activist friend!!
AUSTIN — Malcolm London had been marching for four hours, and the Nov. 24 protest for police shooting victim Laquan McDonald was winding down.
London was directing activists to Grant Park, where the organization he is a part of, Black Youth Project 100, planned to end its march with a quote from Assata Shakur: "We have nothing to lose but our chains." Some planned to head next to a jail, where they'd call for arrested activists to be released.
Then, someone dropped a smoke bomb.
London, 22, said he was across the street from where the smoke bomb was released, but an officer approached him and asked if he was responsible. London said no, but then he was surrounded by — he estimates — six to eight officers. He screamed at the other protesters, telling them he was being arrested.
What happened next depends on whom you ask. London maintains the police were the ones roughing him up before he was charged with aggravated battery.
As he sat in jail, with those outside calling for him to be freed, a woman began to type an open letter to the black, queer, feminist group London works with and to all Chicago activists.
London has sexually assaulted her, she wrote, and she wanted him to be held accountable.
A 'martyr' or 'monster'?
The night of his arrest, London said an officer put him in a chokehold and put something that felt like a zip tie around his neck. He said he couldn't breathe or speak. His vision faded. He lost consciousness.
For a second, London said he thought he was dead.
When he regained consciousness, he was charged with aggravated battery for allegedly hitting an officer in the eye.
Prosecutors dropped the charges against London, and a judge told him, "You are free to go" — despite pleas from police to keep him locked up. Then-Police Supt. Garry McCarthy told a press conference that London was seen "clearly assaulting a police officer" but was instead "cut loose from custody which shouldn't happen."
When he left the courthouse, London was met by a large crowd of cheering supporters. Journalists had gathered, providing national coverage of him being released.
Meanwhile, a different story was developing online.
"He raped a friend of mine, and he's not a martyr, he's a monster," a Twitter user wrote to BYP100.
On Facebook and the blog publishing platform Medium, a post from a woman who identified herself as "Kyra" was being circulated. She had been sexually assaulted by London, Kyra wrote, and the #FreeMalcolmLondon campaign had been "traumatizing."
more at: http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20151221/austin/malcolm-london-dedicated-his-life-activism-now-hes-accused-of-assault
Lawyers are one step above child molesters and it's a very small step.
used to be against the rules to submit both because it inflated activity, perhaps inflated activity is the new goal?
Ok big deal. Smart officers will adapt while the laggards who are the most vocal will complain, complain and complain. In my district the losers always gather at the picnic table and complain about every thing while the workers are busy doing some police work.
Looks like I'm doing 5 John Doe CC for VRI.
this helps what? de-policing at its finest! thanks to you that sit in protected buildings that write this, idiotic item up! who suffers? innocent law abiding taxpaying citizens! Who cheers? thugs, criminals, lawyers (all scum), democrats, revs etc!
16 pages that I can use in an Emergency when I cant get the TP out of that little dispenser they call a Toilet paper roll. I guess it's better than using the brown kraft paper towels they put on the sink...They seem to be water repellant. No idea why they call them towels.
just say'n...
Merry Christmas everyone!... Even Mr. Scrooge!
There will still b idiots who write them.
I guess investigatory Stop forms will be a lot less when compared to contact card numbers from Jan & Feb the previous year. Oh well, stay fetal
Some white shirts still believe in this whole contact cad, traffic stop card bullshit, that these actually make a difference. Please wake the fuck up, Gary is gone you won't get yelled at anymore when you have meetings. Compstat is a lazy way to police especially for the upper brass. You can walk into a meeting with a 300 page stack of paper with all these numbers and graphs and say "look what I did, look what my unit did". And all you as a supervisor have to do is point, click and hit print then beat off in your office for the next 5 hours. Stay thirsty my friends.
Does Cuba have an extradition agreement with United States ?
With the activist groups, so called community leaders, ACLU, Lawyers, police panels, IPRA, IAD, Media types, and most importantly the Justice Department investigating everything the police do. it would be insane to be an aggressive police officer. It's dangerous out there. Sad days. But will the bosses still ask the beat cops for silly contact cards? I'm guessing the merit ones will.
Anonymous said...
This is the biggest problem with the current Fop administration. Laws/legislation like this will pass because Dean has no clue what he is doing. Starting next month when we have contact with someone on the street we have to give them a receipt with our name and star#. This passed because no one from FOP took a stance against this in Springfield. I know that is hard to believe, but anytime there is a bill in Springfield it goes to committee. At that committee meeting Fop could have explained why this is bad legislation. Fop failed us again. Bills like this will continue to pass because Dean has no clue how this is important to policing. They will get whatever they want because no one is fighting for us.
12/21/2015 04:57:00 AM
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You posted this in another thread. Could you post your name and what office are you running for?
They could make the traffic mover 10 pages long. If you have brain in your head you'll stop writing either.
As a supervisor my advise is take care of yourself first. This is what the police department has come to. It is very sad. This is what they wanted. I give up. I would not write a contact card. How can I tell my officers to do what I will not do.
ideas and suggestions:
1) if you need the police, call the ACLU...
2) if you need the police, call the offices of Loevy and Loevy, or G. Flint Taylor
3) if you need the police, call the offices of the local Democratic party,press 1 for a liberal, press 2 for a staff member who doesn't have a clue as to what the hell is going on, press 3 for the guy who works on the video and audio systems in the police cars, so you can see what is going on...press 5 to speak to some bum who overstayed his visa (but don't ask him where he is, since the government doesn't know anyway....
4) program you phone to call yourself, since many good cops will either not be responding, or responding so slowly that you may as well help yourself
5) send a thank you card to your local liberal, and buy a flag from another country to fly on your lawn (extra points for a flag from a Muslim country)
6) buy a subscription to the local Democratic liberal symphony orchestra, because if bullshit and un-Americal ideas were music, they would be the entire orchestra
Did bielfeld rewrite this order?
And coppers will still continue to write them for vri. This job is full of shit talkers. Blah Blah Blah .....
I predict that there will be a great decrease in the amount of guns recovered come January.
I predict that there will be a great decrease in the number of arrests come January.
I predict that the number of aggravated batteries and homicides will greatly increase next year.
I predict that the politicians will be blaming the police for not doing their jobs.
I predict that the "Black lives matter" crowd will say the increase in crime is caused by racist police officers.
I know that police officers will no longer be proactive but rather will only be reactive after receiving a call for service.
Policing as we now it is doomed!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Does Cuba have an extradition agreement with United States ?
12/21/2015 12:13:00 PM
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No, why do ya' think Rahm is there for Christmas escape from the constituents?
12/21/2015 08:33:00 AM
Fr. Purtell is the Best!He is one priest that "get's it", and knows what we deal with.
Its a fucking joke... one item, give the person a card explaining how to complain....
is that for real?
Anonymous said...
I blame Karen Murphy for this crappy order. Like the part that says you fill it out for a traffic tickets and then in the next section says you don't. On the plus side, get one in the beginning of your tour and you can hold yourself down til check off.
VIII A 2. In addition, Investigatory Stop Reports will be submitted for all Investigatory Stops and Protective Pat Downs that lead to an arrest, Personal Service Citation, Administrative Notice of Violation (ANOV), Curfew Violation Report, School Absentee Report, or other enforcement action.
VIII A 4.a. An officer performs a traffic stop on a vehicle after observing the vehicle run a stop sign. The officer issues the driver a Personal Service Citation for failure to stop at a stop sign, and completes and affixes a Traffic Stop Statistical Study sticker to the appropriate copy of the Personal Service Citation consistent with the Department directive "Illinois Traffic Stop Statistical Study." An Investigatory Stop Report will not be completed.
So which is it?
A traffic stop alone is not defined as an investigatory stop. If you stop dude for traffic offense only, and then you pull him out because you smell weed, and you pat him down, now it is an investigatory stop and you fill out the paper work.
Hold me down in the station for thesis entry (I mean data entry).
All the hard chargers on Zone 10 (010th and 011th Dist) will still keep doing work....they are the only ones in the city that apparently never saw the memo that we have all been thrown under the bus....they are still chasing people, chasing cars, getting events for stops, and making pro-active arrests (instead of signed complaints). It's absolutely unreal the amount of radio traffic generated by the working hard chargers on zone 10. All I can say is good luck to you when the DOJ and the City destroy your life when they second guess your actions. I swear the rank and file in this department CAN NOT stick together at all.
You guys & your VRI suck. You are part of the problem. If you can't live on your generous salary then you are an idiot.
The more you make... The more you spend! You are the reason we can't make a stand. If everyone just answered their calls and
nothing more, maybe the fools running this circus might wake up.
Anonymous said...
Ok big deal. Smart officers will adapt while the laggards who are the most vocal will complain, complain and complain. In my district the losers always gather at the picnic table and complain about every thing while the workers are busy doing some police work.
12/21/2015 11:39:00 AM
No. Smart officers realize this new form is nothing but ammunition for civil rights lawsuits. It has nothing to do with policing. If you fill it out, make sure you dot all the Is and cross all the Ts. Any mistake will be seen as an officer making an illegal stop. Any failure to complete the form when making a stop will be seen as covering up an illegal stop. The only way to avoid problems is to avoid making stops. If you don't stop anyone, you don't need to explain or justify anything. It's really hard to be the police and not stop anyone. Just make sure you're stopping the right people for the right reasons, and make sure you document it properly.
Well it's been a good run. Too bad I have 9 mores years to go. Not sure what I'll do with myself?!
12/21/2015 12:53:00 AM
Invest in a nice portable DVD player and stock up on movies and TV series'.
Perhaps some of the doers
of political, corporate and media Fuckery can be danced around
post-mortem by a jubilant crowd like ol' "Papa Doc" was...
Cue:
Baron Samedi
an' Mistuh Tee-Hee
just standin' there conversatin'...
Cheated the hang-man but
the remaining churls, rabble and peed-on peons
might have other ideas.
Live and Let Die an' shit...
We don't condone such...
But as a reasonable sort
who understands human
nature, we "understand"
how shit CAN happen.
Barring that...
Perhaps after the smoke clears and the locusts
and all the other stinging/biting critters of
affliction have fled Chicago after consuming
everything of worth, the remaining peed-on peons
can convene a post-modern era Cadaver Synod (897 A.D.)
of sorts.
Doers of political, corporate and media Fuckery
sitting in the witness chair?
Well duh!
It ain't The Police
who are the "problem."
Anonymous said...
Here's the order.
Consult your attorney before doing ANY police work kids:
http://directives.chicagopolice.org/directives/data/a7a57b99-151b6927-49f15-1b69-2c32e99868b316b0.pdf?hl=true
12/21/2015 02:08:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Well it's been a good run. Too bad I have 9 mores years to go. Not sure what I'll do with myself?!
12/21/2015 12:53:00 AM
Here is what you will do. Respond to calls. Retire. Forget the nightmare that is CPD.
If it makes you feel any better, consider that you're not slowing down because you want to, but the politicians have left you no choice. And it'll give you more time to spend with legit victims.
Stay safe all.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Here's the order.
Consult your attorney before doing ANY police work kids:
http://directives.chicagopolice.org/directives/data/a7a57b99-151b6927-49f15-1b69-2c32e99868b316b0.pdf?hl=true
12/21/2015 02:08:00 AM
An boss who tries to sell you this crap is an a-hole. Don't do a single one and you'll be able to sleep at night. Helllloooo anarchy.
if you complete a curfew report then you must also complete a contact card report......douuble ammunition to use against the police officer......Big Brother is watching you......may the force be with them!
I've looked up the registered "opponents" of this bill in Springfield and Dean, nor FOP are listed. Dean often claims he "is in Springfield", but really, where is he when Springfield is in session? My State Rep even said he has never met Dean.
Anonymous said...
The only contact you should do these days is to tell lawful citizens to arm themselves.
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Are you NUTS? Just keep your mouth shut. That kind of advice can com back to bite you in the ass. Keep your comments short/to the point and appropriate to the conversation. I know we want to help, but those days are over friend. Get a call, handle it, get out. Find a hole where you can get away with it, wait for the next call, repeat the above process.
Anonymous said...
NICE!!! Policing as I knew it is over. I came on in 1994 and it's a whole different world. Now they will have the worm and fuzzy Police...
12/21/2015 02:16:00 AM
You know what's funny? I came on in 86, and old-timers were saying the same thing. They were right then, and you're right now. New kids just refuse to listen. At least when I came on your chances of going to jail were not nearly what they are now. LAY THE F**K down you guys!!!!
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...
I am so very confused.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
12/21/2015 06:44:00 AM
I have been waiting for the longest time to kiss both of your cheeks!
Blogger jjthulis said...
I am an old retired Lt with 32 yrs on the job. My sympathy goes out to all the men and women wearing blue.
If you continue to make street stops and continue aggressive preventive patrol you are putting yourself and your family at risk for a city that will throw you under the bus.
sit back and watch the circus until the voters wake up
12/21/2015 07:59:00 AM
Amen. Imagine prison. Imagine the worry. Imagine having no home and losing everything. Imagine no retirement and having to beg for a job at Walmart. All you hard chargers better understand that while you think you're saving the world, the truth is very far from it--and when you're telling your story toothless sitting on a barstool drinking fifty-cent beers, it's gonna be too late.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dept. is a joke, not even going to do my 5 contact cards for VRI. Looks like I'm going to start writing movers again for my other 5 or get 2 curfews. Boys and girls it's about time to send a message and kill the contact card. Oh you boys in units and tact well you don't have a choice. Let me not forget if you start to get pressure by supervisors at roll call to write them start recording roll call so we get it on tape for the Dept of Justice or ACLU to hear it.
12/21/2015 08:15:00 AM
Hey Dickhead...send a message and don't do VRI. Stroke.
Once someone (guy or gal) puts on a white shirt, they become part of the administration.
12/21/2015 08:36:00 AM
Already happened to two cops in Orland Park.
Anonymous said...
Ok big deal. Smart officers will adapt while the laggards who are the most vocal will complain, complain and complain. In my district the losers always gather at the picnic table and complain about every thing while the workers are busy doing some police work.
12/21/2015 11:39:00 AM
....said the asshole who refuses to see the writing on the wall. Send me your prison address asshole, I'll send you a book of stamps.
General Orders are written by POs in R and D, the same people you work with on the street. They look you in the face and smile. Look at the bottom the GO and it will tell you who wrote it. LOOK! Smart people, educated people, hiding in their cubicles.
A cop now retired once told me if you don't get out of the car you can't get hurt and you won't get in trouble!
ize a do nothing coach!there he goes squad!which way?THAT WAY SQUAD...THAT WAY!WHICH WAY?THAT WAY SQUAD!make that an 11e squad. F-IT!
Dept. is a joke, not even going to do my 5 contact cards for VRI. Looks like I'm going to start writing movers again for my other 5 or get 2 curfews. Boys and girls it's about time to send a message and kill the contact card. Oh you boys in units and tact well you don't have a choice. Let me not forget if you start to get pressure by supervisors at roll call to write them start recording roll call so we get it on tape for the Dept of Justice or ACLU to hear it.
You are part of the problem, you are still going to work vri. Stop working VRI and the department will need to hire more police. Also, read the order if you make a traffic stop or write a curfew you still have to do a contact card. So, you will still be giving them contact cards.
Do Nothing
Over the years I got some good case leads off of contact cards. It is an axiom that the citizens get the police department they want. They are saying stand down.
There was a decline in arrests / prisoners back in 2011 & 12 (Not sure what the numbers are the last few years) directly related to officer dissatisfaction. The states attorneys office was worried because they were losing positions. Just think about all the jobs us and the criminals create.
Something the media and the average citizen never realizes or acknowledges is just how much our customers enjoy being criminals. They are ignorant and unemployable. Being a thug a gang member killer rapist whatever their bent they love it! Carrying guns beating and terrorizing their neighbors it's exciting to them , and we used to try and catch them. We cared more about it than anybody else except for some ASA's I have known who cared as much. Everyone is saying stop, so please do so.
When they keep being robbers and we stop being cops things could slide pretty quickly. The media and the phony preachers and the criminals will be happy and we will collect a check and move on and out and leave them with the hell they have created. Have a safe tour.
Thank you for your faith-filled dedication. You were called by the Lord to be a servant of God. Thank you for your "yes" in service to the greater good.
May God bless you and your families.
Fr. Tom Conde Fr. Michael Olson Fr. Tom Purtell
P.S. We are here for you. Please know that. When you need an ear to bend... bend ours.
Saint Christina Catholic Parish
11005 S Homan Ave, Chicago, IL 60655 :(773) 779-7181
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I don't belong to this parish but I do catch the Sunday 5pm mass once in a while. Great parish.
The most shocking part, is that if you submit a contact card that does not show proper PC for the stop, THE SUPERVISOR IS TO FORWARD THE CARD TO IAD/IPRA.....
12/21/2015 08:28:00 AM
The most shocking part is that you want to document violating someone's civil rights and then blame someone else for your stupidity. It's no wonder the DOJ is here.
Midseason replacement: Law and Order ISR.
Cancelled in 2 episodes.
Here is the truth: Through Compstat, McCarthy and company demanded more contact cards. Bosses like Pena reassigned and dumped POs who didn't give fake #s. Contact cards rose from 250,000 to 750,000 in 4 years. This is Compstat in action. Thanks Garry, Maria and the rest. You just increased Chicagos murder rate. The blood is on your hands.
Congrats SCC!
You are mentioned again!
Now the world know about the absolute shitty equipment that is supplied to us.
More over, the MILLIONS that are being STOLEN from the taxpayers for this NO BID contract!
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20151221/loop/80-percent-of-chicago-police-dashcams-dont-properly-record-audio
There will eventually be officers who conduct stops and do not fill out the new forms. Then, when they get jammed up for doing so, they will come to SCC and cry foul.
Therefore, follow the rules and fill the stupid form out, or better yet, stop doing stops altogether.
Make the malcolm ten london rape case a thread
Answer your jobs, come clear immediately, park somewhere
Stop working VRI, stop all activity
12:13 PM
Re. Cuba + Extradition
NO!
Cop killer JOANNE CHESIMARD, aka ASSATA SHAKUR (F/1) escaped from a NJ prison with the help of the Black Liberation Army (BLA) after her conviction for murdering NJ State Trooper Werner Foerster.. She was also "the Soul" of the BLA who were responsible for the double assassinations of four NYPD officers: Joseph Piagentini and Waverly Jones in Harlem and shortly thereafter, Gregory Foster and Rocco Laurie on the Lower East Side. The BLA was an offshoot of the Black Panther Party.
Under Castro, she fled to Havana and despite a $2,000,000 reward, we can't touch the bitch. The BLA execution targets were BLUE. The NYPD victims in both doubles were black and white partners.
Anonymous said...
Ok big deal. Smart officers will adapt while the laggards who are the most vocal will complain, complain and complain. In my district the losers always gather at the picnic table and complain about every thing while the workers are busy doing some police work.
12/21/2015 11:39:00 AM
Contact cards are police work? LOL
Anonymous said...
"Protective Pat Down of the person, there must be reasonable suspicion of criminal activity and reasonable suspicion that the person is armed and dangerous or presents a danger of attack."
Now they're just adding their own perimeters. There's no state or federal law that says that. If someone has a weapon while I'm interacting with them, I'm going to take possession of it regardless of what they say their intended use of it is.
So now it's not enough that the person is armed, but I also have to articulate why they're dangerous? "Sir, I have to ask. Do you plan on using this knife in your pocket for anything dangerous?" "Nope. Just goin sit out here and whittle a stick."
12/21/2015 08:57:00 AM
That's been the rule all along. You can't just walk up to someoneand start patting them down. You need to be able to articulate why you believed there was a pat down. It is our constitutional right. You are just programmed with the chicago way. And if you saw a knife on someone you are interacting with you can take temporary custody of it. No one added anything, you were just ignorant of the law. Stay fetal.
Anonymous said...
Dept. is a joke, not even going to do my 5 contact cards for VRI. Looks like I'm going to start writing movers again for my other 5 or get 2 curfews. Boys and girls it's about time to send a message and kill the contact card. Oh you boys in units and tact well you don't have a choice. Let me not forget if you start to get pressure by supervisors at roll call to write them start recording roll call so we get it on tape for the Dept of Justice or ACLU to hear it.
12/21/2015 08:15:00 AM
Nope. No pressure but the perks are still nice.
OMG! Everyone has to watch this episode of South Park where the Police are thrown under the bus and ALL shut down and the town goes to hell and the City Officials eventually come back and beg the Police to start working again. HILARIOUS!
It has a few commercials but a Must See by all LEO's!
Just punch In any bday over 18 and Enjoy!
http://hulu.com/w/qhdc
My advice that I would personally adhere to is this: Complete this new version of contact card only when engaging someone as a result of an OEMC call. Whether that be a suspicious person, arrest on signed complaints, etc. I would not advise proactively stopping people. I understand that reasonable suspicion and/or probable cause will exist but the ACLU, media, civil rights attorneys and liberals will not. Please keep that in mind.
You think the DOJ is totally powerless to deal with your slowdown. They have done this in several large cities already. They've been doing it since 1996. If you have any sense, you will realize that you are no longer protected by a CBA. The DOJ is your employer now and will be your employer for the next 20 years.
Don't be surprised when officers are summarily fired in 2017 when they find they had no activity in 2016. They've done it other places. They will do it here.
Go ahead and sue in Cook County. Even if a judge gives you your job back, the Federal Judge overseeing this takeover will tell you to go to hell.
Most of you have no idea of the new world you are entering.
Father Tom Conde, Father Michael Olson and Father Tom Purtell, from St. Christina's Catholic Church in Mt. Greenwood, have written a warn and welcome letter to all Police Officers...a worthy and noble profession. This letter needs to go further...it should be sent to the Tribune, Sun-Times, Chicago Magazine, the New York Times and to the White House.
Any time ya'all need a Positive Community Interaction Card, feel free to chat with me.
Finance Guy on a Bike.
I wonder what the percentage drop off in streets stops, traffic stops and even arrests will be? How much of an increased in property crime and violent crime will we see? We should track the statistical difference.
My guess is the following: we will see a 75% decrease in street stops, t-stops. A 50% drop off on arrests. Property crime increases by 10% and violent crime goes up by 15%. But once the bad guys figure out the police are handcuffed then every year will see really explosive year over year growth in property and violent crime rates. However, the department and politicians will surely disguise it via compstat or some other named model to disguise the actual truth.
2016 crime rate +100% increase
"The SS Sun-Times and the rest of the media fleet has sunk the USS CPD with their lie by omission brand of yellow journalism"
No Clown, 25 years of Runt Daley and his handpicked incompetent clowns which continued during Rahms malfeasance that's what sunk the CPD.
Another day another video zzzzz get your popcorn de-police unless your insane:
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/local/59582065-story
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dog asses win! Join our ranks, you fools. it was inevitable.
12/21/2015 03:36:00 AM
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F Troop forever!
Does Cuba have an extradition agreement with United States ?
12/21/2015 12:13:00 PM
Not yet.
Quit your infantile bitchin.
You've become reliant upon your precious VRI, haven't you?
Then, shut the fuck up & get with the fuckin program.
Done
People when you do your vehicle inspection check everything. If something isn't working or the brakes, suspension, steering, transmission feels unsafe. Down the car. If the camera isn't working, take one that works. Stop allowing yourself to go out in these unsafe vehicles. Make the city repair all the cheap crap they give us. Just pull an event number for not having a vehicle to go out in. We need to stop being the mayor's bitches, we need make him accountable for nonfunctional equipment.
Anyone who stays on tac is an idiot!
Imagine if tac teams stood together and all went
back to the watch what brass would shit themsekves
silly!
The end of policing as we know it.
Give them the Police Department they want. 2016 will go down in the history books and not in a good way. Burn baby burn. Stay safe my friends!
Another sad point is that you will even have to write them out for a PARKER that you write during the 2X a year holiday seat belt mission overtime initiative. It's enforcement action. So, instead of writing a 30 second parker and sending Mr. Citizen on his way, you will have the person stopped for 20 minutes while you fill out one of these as well as the ticket. A 20 minute parker....Think about it..... That's worse than the old 'Cook County' parkers.
I just received my "stay fetal" shirt in the mail. It is very comfortable under my uniform. I would tell you more about it, but I am trying to squeeze in one more movie on Netflix before the end of my shift. 21 yr vet staying fetal AND thirsty my friends!
Time to brush up on your TO-FROMS.
You just hand it to your supervisor who probably has a masters degree and ask very legal question regarding the order.
A blank look will wash on his face and you will be instructed to read the order again.
You submit the TO-FROM and request an answer, send it to legal affairs if nobody knows.
The act creates paper that nobody can then throw you under any buses.
Or you can hide and hope you never slip up/ don/t forget that if your partner is not very bright or shakey you will also be held accountable for another adult.
I just went through it. There is a lot to digest.
Where is the TRAINING???
Too bad coppers are gonna get jammed up over this.
We all know there will be idiots who will continue to do these stops and complete all these forms because they swear there doing "good" police work. Well your not!!! You have no mind of your own and will walk off of a cliff if your beloved supervisor tells you too you moron!!!! Little do they realize how foolish and stupid they look over the air, totally embarrassing to everyone but them!? Respond to your jobs, do a case report if you have to, hold yourself down and do it right. If the bad guy runs, oh well send a flash and advise warrants if he's known. Working for John Q. Public who wants you in jail and fired, those days are over. Let's see how they deal with thugs terrorizing there neighborhood. It's a different day and age, being the real police days are over. The sooner you realize it the better off you will be.
The more and more I hear about the different names in the top 5 percent making Lt and the madder I get. I studied so hard and I'll be famed if a cheater is going to beat me. Has anyone filed a CR number or talked with a lawyer? I'm not going to let this slide.
That Malcolm London rape story has been removed. I guess it didn't fit with the left's agenda.
Ok big deal. Smart officers will adapt while the laggards who are the most vocal will complain, complain and complain. In my district the losers always gather at the picnic table and complain about every thing while the workers are busy doing some police work.
It's over policing buddy. Haven't you watched the news you have got to be brain dead to do any sort of proactive police work from here on out.
That Malcolm London rape story has been removed. I guess it didn't fit with the left's agenda.
12/21/2015 11:43:00 PM
It's still up.
http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20151221/austin/malcolm-london-dedicated-his-life-activism-now-hes-accused-of-assault
>>>Anonymous said...
2016 crime rate +100% increase
12/21/2015 08:24:00 PM<<<
ONLY....if the crimes are reported.
And Rahm will never permit that.
Speaking of 100%, some coalition of libtards dumped petitions demanding a RECALL ELECTION of Rahm. I didn't get a chance to sign. I sure would sign if given a chance so they should stand outside every district station to collect signatures.
Any time ya'all need a Positive Community Interaction Card, feel free to chat with me.
Finance Guy on a Bike.
Apparently you didn't get your job with DOA. I think I'll pass.
Time to brush up on your TO-FROMS.
You just hand it to your supervisor who probably has a masters degree and ask very legal question regarding the order.
A blank look will wash on his face and you will be instructed to read the order again.
You submit the TO-FROM and request an answer, send it to legal affairs if nobody knows.
The act creates paper that nobody can then throw you under any buses.
Or you can hide and hope you never slip up/ don/t forget that if your partner is not very bright or shakey you will also be held accountable for another adult.
12/21/2015 11:19:00 PM
Time to brush up on your English. I can't figure out what the fuck you're trying to say here, but it seems like you think you can blame your supervisor for your inability to read and understand the orders. Then it sounds like you think writing a TO/FROM to legal affairs will indemnify you of all responsibility in adhering to the orders, and result in legal affairs answering some question for you. It's like someone replaced the parts of your brain responsible for logic and grammar with banana pudding and puppy shit. Regardless of what the order says, you're still responsible for any violations of civil rights that occur while you're running around stopping people. No TO/FROM will save your dumb ass.
Where is our union ?
Anonymous said...
You think the DOJ is totally powerless to deal with your slowdown. They have done this in several large cities already. They've been doing it since 1996. If you have any sense, you will realize that you are no longer protected by a CBA. The DOJ is your employer now and will be your employer for the next 20 years.
Don't be surprised when officers are summarily fired in 2017 when they find they had no activity in 2016. They've done it other places. They will do it here.
Go ahead and sue in Cook County. Even if a judge gives you your job back, the Federal Judge overseeing this takeover will tell you to go to hell.
Most of you have no idea of the new world you are entering.
12/21/2015 07:40:00 PM
How are they going to fire 5000 + coppers? You're a mush.
Anonymous said...
You think the DOJ is totally powerless to deal with your slowdown. They have done this in several large cities already. They've been doing it since 1996. If you have any sense, you will realize that you are no longer protected by a CBA. The DOJ is your employer now and will be your employer for the next 20 years.
Don't be surprised when officers are summarily fired in 2017 when they find they had no activity in 2016. They've done it other places. They will do it here.
Go ahead and sue in Cook County. Even if a judge gives you your job back, the Federal Judge overseeing this takeover will tell you to go to hell.
Most of you have no idea of the new world you are entering.
12/21/2015 07:40:00 PM
Just tell them you've adjusted your thinking and that instead of seeing suspicious (thugs) on the corners, you see artists and poets, and you don't want to profile people. Isn't that what they want from us?
How much extra money do proactive Police Officers make in this day in age? Is there any type of bonus for writing contact cards? I'm just trying to understand what the point of a contact card is when there are zero quotas? Why should I even get out of the car, I ask myself
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Another sad point is that you will even have to write them out for a PARKER that you write during the 2X a year holiday seat belt mission overtime initiative. It's enforcement action. So, instead of writing a 30 second parker and sending Mr. Citizen on his way, you will have the person stopped for 20 minutes while you fill out one of these as well as the ticket. A 20 minute parker....Think about it..... That's worse than the old 'Cook County' parkers.
12/21/2015 10:45:00 PM
I truly hope you jest. This will be the end of the hot dogs speeding around 001, 018, 019, 020, 024 and parts of 016 & 014 going for street cleaning come spring time.
In all seriousness, if they expect this shit for each and every Parker.... Fuckin left Revenue handle it.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You think the DOJ is totally powerless to deal with your slowdown. They have done this in several large cities already. They've been doing it since 1996. If you have any sense, you will realize that you are no longer protected by a CBA. The DOJ is your employer now and will be your employer for the next 20 years.
Don't be surprised when officers are summarily fired in 2017 when they find they had no activity in 2016. They've done it other places. They will do it here.
Go ahead and sue in Cook County. Even if a judge gives you your job back, the Federal Judge overseeing this takeover will tell you to go to hell.
Most of you have no idea of the new world you are entering.
12/21/2015 07:40:00 PM
Bullshit boss. We are the largest department pd the doj ever had to investigate. Try your scare tactics somewhere else, you goof. Required activity/quotas is against state law, and last time I checked there isn't a federal law on policing quotas. You're a moron. You obviously have no idea what world you're going to be supervising in. The only way doj "takes over" is by decent decree, which would be around our contract time. You're a chicken little sky is falling goof.
The object may not be manipulated in order to determine the identity of
the object.
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Seriously, WTF does that mean?
I'm pretty sure everyone could get away with not doing any stops until they train everyone on this order. It's long and contradictory in places. You can always say you wanted to err on the side of caution and not violate anyone's rights.
It's time to pull a Balimore and halt all stops and arrests. At least in the bad areas, please keep up the great work in the better parts of town.
For a small fee ($3/card), I will let you write on contact card on me every day.
If they're going to accuse you of inattention to duty, might not hurt to keep a little log book of times/places you were going to stop people but in order to preserve their rights you didn't. That way it shows you're doing something. Nobody can fault you for not stopping people if you throw the order back in their face. If they weren't there, they can't judge you.
Also, be careful about using 'catch phrases' when you articulate probable cause/suspicion. That shit ain't going to fly any more.
Anonymous said...
OMG! Everyone has to watch this episode of South Park where the Police are thrown under the bus and ALL shut down and the town goes to hell and the City Officials eventually come back and beg the Police to start working again. HILARIOUS!
It has a few commercials but a Must See by all LEO's!
Just punch In any bday over 18 and Enjoy!
http://hulu.com/w/qhdc
12/21/2015 07:28:00 PM
Seriously? Are you over 21? South Park?
12/21/2015 8:36 AM
Also,when you get on your cell phone and call someone that conversation will be taped and will be available to supervisors and trial lawyers. We have no privacy.
The more and more I hear about the different names in the top 5 percent making Lt and the madder I get. I studied so hard and I'll be famed if a cheater is going to beat me. Has anyone filed a CR number or talked with a lawyer? I'm not going to let this slide.
If it bothers you that much, don't wait for someone else to file at CR or talk with a lawyer. Pick up the phone. Bitching about it will do nothing.
12/21/2015 07:40:00 PM
You are so FOS it's laughable. The DOJ has just set you up with a great wrongful termination lawsuit. You couldn't show ANY proof of an officer fired for no activity. Just responding to jobs is activity. Stay the F off our site.
Anonymous said...
You think the DOJ is totally powerless to deal with your slowdown. They have done this in several large cities already. They've been doing it since 1996. If you have any sense, you will realize that you are no longer protected by a CBA. The DOJ is your employer now and will be your employer for the next 20 years.
Don't be surprised when officers are summarily fired in 2017 when they find they had no activity in 2016. They've done it other places. They will do it here.
Go ahead and sue in Cook County. Even if a judge gives you your job back, the Federal Judge overseeing this takeover will tell you to go to hell.
Most of you have no idea of the new world you are entering.
Where have they fired officers for "inactivity"?
I blame Karen Murphy for this crappy order.
12/21/2015 01:51:00 PM
Legal Affairs?
Smart Officers = those who have been brainwashed by our devil controlled media who paints everyone other than white people as a victim. Your ability to adapt will be used against you in the first lawsuit filed against you. Hope you have your house in order because the devil is not content with just your tax dollars, he wants your house also but will probably allow you to keep your car so you can continue to work and adapt to the new world order.
All who worship God, obey the 10 commandments, respect the police, provide for themselves and their families, pay taxes that support those able-bodied people who refuse to work, live on the northwest or southwest side of the city are evil white privileged devils. 30 years on been there done that. The only way for change to happen is to let them govern themselves, give them what they want.
Some of you advocating sitting in the hole and doing nothing but responding to your calls. I suggest not doing that. I suggest sitting and being visible on your beat. Move your car every 10-15 minutes. Get out and do some foot patrol, you probably need the exercise anyway. Don't hit the hole, especially with the camera always rolling and GPS. Someone is going to be looking at every officer. Don't get sent to call back for inattention to duty.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
" The only contact you should do these days is to tell lawful citizens to arm themselves. The police will no longer be proactive in stopping the common everyday criminal! The everyday criminal will learn to fear those who conceal carry. The police should just wait at the station until a call comes out. Depending on the situation maybe a few cars are dispatched. The rest of the officers can work out while they wait for a call others officers can make food in the mess hall until they are in the rotation. There will be sleeping quarters for those who return from the fight they had with a mental who tried to disarm them and tried biting their nose off! After some rest they can grab a bite from the mess hall and be ready for there turn in the rotation. This can be done in 24 hour shifts! This is perfect very little interaction with public and you work only about 90 days a year!"
I love the old crime movies from the 30s and 40s where the film shows the cops getting a call at HQ. The police station garage door opens with cops in cars and on motorcycles, sirens blaring and roaring out the door in response. Also the 'SWAT' TV show was a gas. The cops would sit around, tell war stories, work-out, fondle their SWAT toys and basically chill-out waiting for a SWAT call or SWAT music to play, whichever came first so that they could jump into their SWAT van and race around the city.:) LOL.
I have been retired 16 years now after completing 30 years on the job.
Watch you back.
better worry about the feds reading and investigating contact cards, oh they are here to help you! Stay Fetal!
No Clown, 25yrs of runt daley....sunk CPD.
I didn't want to go on a three page rant on ALL the things that have contributed to the demise of CPD, but if you don't think that the media has had a major hand in destroying the police then either you are a media member or related to one or....
Should be setting up the bozo buckets yourself, ASSCLOWN
The priests at St. Christinas' will now become the target of the new Cardinal because they are supporting the police, that POS Father Pleiger can say and do what he wants, but because he is who he is and who he runs with he will probably bring busloads out to Mt. Greenwood in protests. I'm a North sider retiree who will make it a point to visit St. Christinas'. this is how a community should support their first responders.
Anonymous said...
The most shocking part, is that if you submit a contact card that does not show proper PC for the stop, THE SUPERVISOR IS TO FORWARD THE CARD TO IAD/IPRA.....
No....the most shocking part is that you think probable cause is required to stop somebody. Probable cause is required to make an arrest. It is not required to make a stop. Never was required. You probably think Miranda warnings are also required when you make an arrest.
The lack of basic police knowledge is astounding in this department.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Another sad point is that you will even have to write them out for a PARKER that you write during the 2X a year holiday seat belt mission overtime initiative. It's enforcement action. So, instead of writing a 30 second parker and sending Mr. Citizen on his way, you will have the person stopped for 20 minutes while you fill out one of these as well as the ticket. A 20 minute parker....Think about it..... That's worse than the old 'Cook County' parkers.
12/21/2015 10:45:00 PM
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They dont have to be present while you fill out the contact form.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I blame Karen Murphy for this crappy order. Like the part that says you fill it out for a traffic tickets and then in the next section says you don't. On the plus side, get one in the beginning of your tour and you can hold yourself down til check off.
VIII A 2. In addition, Investigatory Stop Reports will be submitted for all Investigatory Stops and Protective Pat Downs that lead to an arrest, Personal Service Citation, Administrative Notice of Violation (ANOV), Curfew Violation Report, School Absentee Report, or other enforcement action.
VIII A 4.a. An officer performs a traffic stop on a vehicle after observing the vehicle run a stop sign. The officer issues the driver a Personal Service Citation for failure to stop at a stop sign, and completes and affixes a Traffic Stop Statistical Study sticker to the appropriate copy of the Personal Service Citation consistent with the Department directive "Illinois Traffic Stop Statistical Study." An Investigatory Stop Report will not be completed.
So which is it?
12/21/2015 12:49:00 AM
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You really don't know the difference?
This order was written by the Director of R&D and the "Captain" in Compstat, two of the most overpromoted nitwits this department has ever seen.
Ok big deal. Smart officers will adapt while the laggards who are the most vocal will complain, complain and complain. In my district the losers always gather at the picnic table and complain about every thing while the workers are busy doing some police work.
It's over policing buddy. Haven't you watched the news you have got to be brain dead to do any sort of proactive police work from here on out.
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He's a tool! I am one of those young guys and all I wanted was to be was "da police" running and gunning, but I now see that the system doesn't have our backs! Without that you might has well be a vigilante! This idiot doesn't realize that it's not about being smart, but sticking together as a department, as a family! Unfortunately like one retired officer posted earlier this department will never do that, nor has it ever! Too many individualistic and selfish officers on the job.
The more and more I hear about the different names in the top 5 percent making Lt and the madder I get. I studied so hard and I'll be famed if a cheater is going to beat me. Has anyone filed a CR number or talked with a lawyer? I'm not going to let this slide.
12/21/2015 11:41:00 PM
Gee you think this is a first time occurrence? Good luck but its been going on for years
When will the range and academy instructors start wearing body cams? Recruits are fed bull shit from the house cats and leave the academy that working a beat car is like on a tv show.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
The most shocking part, is that if you submit a contact card that does not show proper PC for the stop, THE SUPERVISOR IS TO FORWARD THE CARD TO IAD/IPRA.....
No....the most shocking part is that you think probable cause is required to stop somebody. Probable cause is required to make an arrest. It is not required to make a stop. Never was required. You probably think Miranda warnings are also required when you make an arrest.
The lack of basic police knowledge is astounding in this department.
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Hear hear!
12/22/2015 10:28:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I blame Karen Murphy for this crappy order. Like the part that says you fill it out for a traffic tickets and then in the next section says you don't. On the plus side, get one in the beginning of your tour and you can hold yourself down til check off.
VIII A 2. In addition, Investigatory Stop Reports will be submitted for all Investigatory Stops and Protective Pat Downs that lead to an arrest, Personal Service Citation, Administrative Notice of Violation (ANOV), Curfew Violation Report, School Absentee Report, or other enforcement action.
VIII A 4.a. An officer performs a traffic stop on a vehicle after observing the vehicle run a stop sign. The officer issues the driver a Personal Service Citation for failure to stop at a stop sign, and completes and affixes a Traffic Stop Statistical Study sticker to the appropriate copy of the Personal Service Citation consistent with the Department directive "Illinois Traffic Stop Statistical Study." An Investigatory Stop Report will not be completed.
So which is it?
Let me Splain to u: If you do a traffic stop and, due to your experience and observations, decide to do a pat down, then you have to submit an Investigatory Stop Report and give the driver a receipt..
If you do a traffic stop and no pat down, you do not have to submit an Investigatory Stop Report.
If you do a street stop and NO pat down, the subject does NOT get a receipt (you still have to complete an Investigatory Stop Report).
If you do a street stop and DO a pat down, you complete the report and give the subject a receipt.
My advice: don't stop anyone unless you absolutely have to.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Over the years I got some good case leads off of contact cards. It is an axiom that the citizens get the police department they want. They are saying stand down.
There was a decline in arrests / prisoners back in 2011 & 12 (Not sure what the numbers are the last few years) directly related to officer dissatisfaction. The states attorneys office was worried because they were losing positions. Just think about all the jobs us and the criminals create.
Something the media and the average citizen never realizes or acknowledges is just how much our customers enjoy being criminals. They are ignorant and unemployable. Being a thug a gang member killer rapist whatever their bent they love it! Carrying guns beating and terrorizing their neighbors it's exciting to them , and we used to try and catch them. We cared more about it than anybody else except for some ASA's I have known who cared as much. Everyone is saying stop, so please do so.
When they keep being robbers and we stop being cops things could slide pretty quickly. The media and the phony preachers and the criminals will be happy and we will collect a check and move on and out and leave them with the hell they have created. Have a safe tour.
I would like to reiterate the above point that the poster made about jobs created by the law enforcement community. Ever wonder why so many vehicles are parked on a daily basis at 26th and California? Because we as police officers create the demand for public defenders, assistant states attorneys, judges, lawyers, victim assistance, and a plethora of court support staff. Thousands of employees rely on the system to keep running. When police officers slow down and stop making arrests, writing tickets, the demand for these support/parasitical services will collapse. What will follow will necessarily be layoffs, retirees' positions not being filled, and a hiring slowdown. Why do you think law firms with a reputation of suing the city have stooped to such lengths lately as combing CO numbers from years ago for fodder? They are getting desperate to feed the beast. Give them the key to their own demise. Stop all activity, do the bare minimum. The ripple effect that will come from the war on police will not be pretty. GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT!!!
12/21/2015 04:42:00 PM
Stop working !!!! Jesus Christ !!!
No movers no anovs no contact cards
No street stops
Nothing !!!!
The more you do the more shit your gonna find
Example ;
P.o. Let's stop this guy ! He failed to stop at the stop sign
Partner : ok I'll lite him up
Traffic offender : why you stopping me ?
P.o. You failed to stop at the stop sign !
Lic and proof of insurance please
Traffic offender : that's boo shit y'all just fucking with me
P.o can you please give me your lic and proof of insurance ?
Traffic offender. I ain't got none
P.o. Can you shut your car off and step from the vehicle ?
Traffic I ain't gotta do shit
And the rest is routine call for help pull him out fight is on eventually taken into custody and CR #
Suspended pending allegations and because of the current situation you loose your job but if he screems loud enough maybe the lining of how badly you beat him and how you violated his civil rights will not put you on trial and get you thrown in jail so fuck that
All because you thought it was important to enforce a traffic law
So you can get activity for your VRI
Now nine times out of 10 it won't ever go this way but the 10th time that's the one that's going to get you and then you're going to be saying I shouldn't of done shit
How are they going to fire 5000 + coppers? You're a mush.
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They won't have to fire 5000. A few dozen, maybe just a handful would make the point very effectively.
It no longer matters much who is at fault or how it got this way, but something has to change or the situation will blow up in everyone's face.
They want contact cards, well lets be up front about it. Save the money on VRI by cancelling it entirely. Give every officer 1$ per contact card. Every contact card must be backed up by a state ID. Counterfeit contact cards may result in discipline.
Crime will drop as a result of police interaction.
Hey, it's gotta work better than McCompstat's ideas...
Off Topic SCC please forgive us, important info concerning allegations of misconduct:
The have been several complaints of documented cheating and compromising of classified information regarding the recent Lt’s Examination. The Department of Justice has been informed and an investigation will search for patterns of unconstitutional policing practices throughout the police force. The officers involved should be held accountable! If the department tries to rush a promotion of these suspects from the new list, all participants from the old list will be part of the upcoming lawsuit.
Hopefully the CPD will be proactive and avoid another negative media press release by holding off promotions from the new list until the investigation is completed. Time for the DOJ to put an end to this “blue” wall of merit aka cheaters, corruption and silence.
I am one of those young guys and all I wanted was to be was "da police" running and gunning, but I now see that the system doesn't have our backs! Without that you might has well be a vigilante! This idiot doesn't realize that it's not about being smart, but sticking together as a department, as a family! Unfortunately like one retired officer posted earlier this department will never do that, nor has it ever! Too many individualistic and selfish officers on the job.
EXCELLENT Perspective, young one.
When I was new, I too was a run & gunner. Did tact, units, the whole 9.
Luckily, I came on in the early 90's...when we could still police aggressively.
Hell, there was even a term then "AGGRESSIVE PATROL. (Does it still exist?)
Now, as I sit here, an old grizzled vet, in this POLICE HATER climate, aint no way I'd do anything above the minimum. And that's exactly what I advise young PO's.
It aint about being a "dog ass". It's about being aware of what you're facing as a 2000's police officer.
Please know that Society, Rahm, and the Feds will fuck you deep, with no lube, if you give them half a chance.
Anonymous said...
Ok big deal. Smart officers will adapt while the laggards who are the most vocal will complain, complain and complain. In my district the losers always gather at the picnic table and complain about every thing while the workers are busy doing some police work.
GET OFF the blog, BOSS!
Anonymous Valarie j. said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You think the DOJ is totally powerless to deal with your slowdown. They have done this in several large cities already. They've been doing it since 1996. If you have any sense, you will realize that you are no longer protected by a CBA. The DOJ is your employer now and will be your employer for the next 20 years.
Don't be surprised when officers are summarily fired in 2017 when they find they had no activity in 2016. They've done it other places. They will do it here.
Go ahead and sue in Cook County. Even if a judge gives you your job back, the Federal Judge overseeing this takeover will tell you to go to hell.
Most of you have no idea of the new world you are entering.
12/21/2015 07:40:00 PM
Bullshit boss. We are the largest department pd the doj ever had to investigate. Try your scare tactics somewhere else, you goof. Required activity/quotas is against state law, and last time I checked there isn't a federal law on policing quotas. You're a moron. You obviously have no idea what world you're going to be supervising in. The only way doj "takes over" is by decent decree, which would be around our contract time. You're a chicken little sky is falling goof.
12/22/2015 05:39:00 AM
Really now.......well how about the four plus year investigation which the DOJ ran on the LAPD. The LAPD and its Officers did not fare very well
Anonymous Anonymous said...
After talking with an attorney I now realize that police officers have no privacy.
The audio systems that the activists and the City are forcing on us will not only pick up conversations with citizens we interact with but also private conversations that we have with our fellow employees. When we vent about an individual that we had contact with afterwards, in the privacy of our vehicle, that conversation will be recorded. If any deems that our conversation was inappropriate, even though it was private, we are opening ourselves up to discipline.
If we are having marital problems and our spouse hires an attorney that attorney can review conversations between partners after filing an FOIA request.
Also, I can see trial lawyers listening to hundred of hours of our private conversations hoping to find an inappropriate comment to utilize to further their claims. They will then demand that the City pay them for listening to these conversations.
What will Ralph Price, FOP and the City do to protect our privacy?
Nothing I fear!
12/21/2015 08:36:00 AM
THAT, my friends is why my partner and I purchased the Rosetta Stone Language tapes months ago and now we both speak fluent Gaelic. All our conversations in the car are in Gaelic. These lawyers will NEVER figure that language out! Siobanne is pronounced Sha-Von. Take THAT Northwestern Innocence Project! Ha, ha, ha, or as we say in Gaelic... qne, qne, qne
he most shocking part, is that if you submit a contact card that does not show proper PC for the stop, THE SUPERVISOR IS TO FORWARD THE CARD TO IAD/IPRA.....
Phantom wordage. Didn't see that anywhere in the order. IAD has review of the reports anyway.
The other problems with this is the fact that search and siezure is probably the most SCOTUS scrutinized and debated police activity there is. It is assinine for this order to be released without any discussion of the cases cited by Legal Affairs.
As for the sergeants that are going to be reviewind and approving these reports: What training/instruction from Legal Affairs are they getting? What makes them constitutional law experts?
You are still allowed to talk to someone on the street. If he walks away....oh well.
THAT, my friends is why my partner and I purchased the Rosetta Stone Language tapes months ago and now we both speak fluent Gaelic. All our conversations in the car are in Gaelic.
If you really want to F with them, you would have gone on-line and learned Klingon. Would sound like static. The tech would be going crazy trying to run down the "short circuit" in the wiring..ha ha.
Remember the movie snatch? The irish gypsies had their own crazy language that nobody understood but them
Speaking of Ralph Price, I'm retired now , so the next time I see him I will call him an asshole. Unlike working police, I can't wait to see him again. 98 lbs of walking shit, that's all
You think the DOJ is totally powerless to deal with your slowdown. They have done this in several large cities already. They've been doing it since 1996. If you have any sense, you will realize that you are no longer protected by a CBA. The DOJ is your employer now and will be your employer for the next 20 years.
Don't be surprised when officers are summarily fired in 2017 when they find they had no activity in 2016. They've done it other places. They will do it here.
Go ahead and sue in Cook County. Even if a judge gives you your job back, the Federal Judge overseeing this takeover will tell you to go to hell.
Most of you have no idea of the new world you are entering.
2 parkers and an el check what they gonna say? GTFOH
"Anonymous said...
The most shocking part, is that if you submit a contact card that does not show proper PC for the stop, THE SUPERVISOR IS TO FORWARD THE CARD TO IAD/IPRA....."
The original post is INCORRECT...this is why people do poorly on promotional tests...they can't read. The order says, "Forward the completed Investigatory Stop Report Deficiency Notification to the Commanding Officer of the Integrity Section, Crime Control Strategies." That is not IAD or IPRA.
It is interesting to note, however, that no such Integrity Section exists as of the issuance of this General Order. I guess the Integrity Section will magically appear when the order becomes effective.
Anonymous 11th Dist King said...
You think the DOJ is totally powerless to deal with your slowdown. They have done this in several large cities already. They've been doing it since 1996. If you have any sense, you will realize that you are no longer protected by a CBA. The DOJ is your employer now and will be your employer for the next 20 years.
Don't be surprised when officers are summarily fired in 2017 when they find they had no activity in 2016. They've done it other places. They will do it here.
Go ahead and sue in Cook County. Even if a judge gives you your job back, the Federal Judge overseeing this takeover will tell you to go to hell.
Most of you have no idea of the new world you are entering.
2 parkers and an el check what they gonna say? GTFOH
12/23/2015 08:47:00 AM
They aren't going to say a damn thing. The original poster has to be a boss who is terrified because he's worried about the numbers. The bosses are going to be the most fucked. Regular patrol just has to wait it out, no big deal. Doj might come up with new orders or training patrol has to do or implement. That's it. Crime is going to go up and it is going to directly effect the bosses. There is nothing stating police be pro active, just do your job. Many department already went through this. I'm interested to see if doj while push CPD for consent decree. I don't see them having enough for it, but you never know. No p o has been fired or laid off by the doj for doing their job. The doj are only looking at a few excessive force beefs. They are here looking at policy and training. Anyone can look up what departments have been investigated. Might take some time, but who cares. Answer calls and be safe. Let the political apt bosses sweat. It's going to be fun to see. I can't wait to see what happens when bosses threaten p/os with changing partners, denying time due, screw with start times, etc.... For no pro active activity. They are fucked
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