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- One of Chicago’s most notorious informants — who provided drug tips to the police while secretly killing and robbing people and doing drug deals — was paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for his information with the approval of police supervisors who have since reached the highest levels of the department, records show.
Saul Rodriguez was a top snitch for the Chicago Police Department’s narcotics section between 1996 and 2001. Over that period, he received more than $800,000 from the department for his information.
Interim Chicago Police Supt. John Escalante, former police Supt. Phil Cline and chief Eugene Williams were all supervisors in the narcotics division over that period and approved payments to Rodriguez, records show. During those years, Rodriguez was involved in two killings and other serious crimes like holdups, according to federal prosecutors.
Some people were giving us flak in the comments yesterday about a certain exempt who was uncomfortably close to a scandal where his partner got 18 years in the Federal Pen. They said he was a nice guy and never hurt a copper. We are of the opinion that anyone that close to something that bad probably isn't the best choice for the position they put him in. We don't care if he's the greatest administrator in history and brings lunch for the watches every single day. At some point, it's going to come up in a public forum (like a newspaper) and it's going to make the Department look bad, and by virtue of it's very existence, it's going to make coppers look bad...like signing off on an informant that murders people while he's on your payroll.
Is it fair? No, not at all. It restricts a lot of people from ever making it higher than their own talents will take them. But it's reality. We're all living it now. Is it fair that we're all about to be living under some sort of Federal Consent Decree? Is it fair we got painted with the same brush that others wielded when they took money from tow drivers, dope dealers, drunks, dead people, stole dope or property, botched investigations, molested women, beat bartenders, drove intoxicated, etc, etc? We don't think so.
There's a national conversation taking place and guess who doesn't even have a seat at the table? Us. We do our job, honestly and to the best of our ability. But this isn't the time or place to be putting anyone with a potential skeleton in a position when every single appointment is under a microscope. It seems to be a lesson lost on this Department lately and on Rahm pretty regularly.
Is it fair? No, not at all. It restricts a lot of people from ever making it higher than their own talents will take them. But it's reality. We're all living it now. Is it fair that we're all about to be living under some sort of Federal Consent Decree? Is it fair we got painted with the same brush that others wielded when they took money from tow drivers, dope dealers, drunks, dead people, stole dope or property, botched investigations, molested women, beat bartenders, drove intoxicated, etc, etc? We don't think so.
There's a national conversation taking place and guess who doesn't even have a seat at the table? Us. We do our job, honestly and to the best of our ability. But this isn't the time or place to be putting anyone with a potential skeleton in a position when every single appointment is under a microscope. It seems to be a lesson lost on this Department lately and on Rahm pretty regularly.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:39 AM
122 Comments:
All promotions should be placed on hold until the investigations are completed.
Rahm knows he's smart. Or method to his madness? Only a stupid nit-whit would advance persons with issues such as the ones presented by Mr. Main. It appears the heat is on but Rahm seems cold as ice.
Wow scc. You really went down a few notches giving frank props on these stories. Guess what, I knew finnegan and worked with finnegan at one time... I never saw him steal a dime nor did I. Did he steal?? Sure we all know now. Maybe he didn't trust me.. Maybe he kept it quiet with the guys who were close to him who knows. But just because you were close to something doesn't mean anything. Also, you clearly don't know how c/I payments are done because the approving LTs and commanders of units only sign off on the paperwork and are not privy to the identity of the snitch only his ci number. Alls the boss does is sign the paperwork which says how much to give and what the arrest was for. Cmon, it's like you are taking Frank's side here when it's not even close to being some type of scandal. I think on the topic of payin c/is scc you might be as clueless as frank on this one....
People 35th Street have been saying McCarty has been showing up to work everyday.
He just shows up and locks himself in the office!
Channel 7 confirms it!!
http://abc7chicago.com/news/cpd-supt-mccarthy-wouldnt-resign-so-he-was-fired/1127182/
The 99% of lawyers make the others look bad.
Do you want the same thing to be said about your profession?
If not, clean it up.
How about the story of two cops who were partners in 010 for years and became business partners in a little store called TNT in the late 1970s. Tee shirts and things. One cop becomes a sergeant and goes to narcotics and straight to head a new task force at DEA in 1980. One year later the cop in 010 is arrested with 9 other cops for taking bribes from street dealers and they are dubbed the Marquette 10 and convicted and sent to the federal pen. In the end, one cop dies in prison jogging and the other cop eats his way up the ladder of success to becoming the superintendent. What is one supposed to think really happened here?
Go along and get along works for a while. Until someone starts looking, and even gets someone inside to flip. Then it all gets ugly. They just all thought there was no reason for their Democrat masters to look for problems. They were wrong.
A lot of that information has been in the media before.... like during the coverage of the Lewellen trial and conviction. It's a huge leap to say that anyone remotely involved in that case was dirty and should never receive any future promotions.
Everyone is quiet about the current Lt test being compromised, any word on that SSC
So those that cheated is just going to get away with it and that's just how it goes?
Certain exempts leaked out the answers to a certain chosen group of individuals and that's just the end of it?
Does Rham know or care that it's yet another scandal?
What does the Sergeants Union have to say about it and what's the status
Two words...."whitey bulger" the FBI did the same thing. Not condoning it, but isn't this how it's done? Getting one lowlife to "rat" on another lowlife and Paying them for it. They set their sights on a particular gang/organization and befriend the one with loyalties only to himself and the money to be made and the power to be had, by playing both sides. If the FBI still does it, How will they condemn these individuals for working out of the same FBI playbook?
It's impossible to make it above the rank of Lt on your own because it's all based on clout, not talent and there is no test to take. Now they even made it harder for a certain group to move up, the male white. Only minorities to be considered, too many male whites already. Command staff is now chosen based on their race, political affiliation, and sexual orientation. Truth be told, we all know it. Rahm wants to insure those votes for the democratic party next time around.
The 99% of lawyers make the others look bad.
Do you want the same thing to be said about your profession?
If not, clean it up.
12/18/2015 02:51:00 AM
Tough talk. The problem is that the people who are suffering are the honest cops on the beat, not the administration who sets policy or covers shit up. The ENTIRE department is being painted with the same brush and that is not fair. Lawyers, on the other hand....
How about the fact that the new commander in 003 does not have enough time in grade to make Capt , but is so talented that he should be a commander. I wonder what his talent is?
Rodriguez was a familiar face at S. Normal.
Escalante, Williams, Sanchez. Pena. Great leaders. Bring back someone like Gorman or Patterson. At least they were good bosses. Downtown Ernie Brown was heard telling people that he is being pushed for supt. Goes from Darien to Cook County. Were screwed.
"We are of the opinion that anyone that close to something that bad probably isn't the best choice for the position they put him in."
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Correct.
SCC, these posts are getting ridiculous, and tarnishing your hard earned and well deserved credibility. Frank Main is a police hating idiot, and is clearly working towards an agenda by attempting to cast Acting Supt Escalante in a bad light. You will not find to better bosses than John Escalante or Noel Sanchez, yet they've been in your sights non-stop for the past two days. What gives?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
People 35th Street have been saying McCarty has been showing up to work everyday.
He just shows up and locks himself in the office!
Channel 7 confirms it!!
http://abc7chicago.com/news/cpd-supt-mccarthy-wouldnt-resign-so-he-was-fired/1127182/
12/18/2015 01:45:00 AM
God knows what he's burying while he's there. In the private sector a guard escorts you to your office so you can remove personal items and you are shown the door. Who is allowing this clown near dept. computers? No wonder comppost is still on!
White girl burned to death 17 black animals caught so far, any marches? Obama where is your televised speech? Loretta lynch you helping? Black on white crime guess it does not fit government media complex. Guidelines pathetic!! Trump please when you take office right the wrongs, forensic audit of Chicago cook county and Illinois state house! Close the borders, deport hem all anchor babies all illegally here, put animals away forever as a matter of fact it is being reported Russian president Putin respected you, maybe we could ask him to use his gulag prison and ship our thugs there, bet the recidivism rate would be nil! Enough playing nice with felons and criminals that cause mayhem on innocent people may God bless the USA and the only reformers in the presidential race Mr. Donald Trump, also thanks Trump for saying "if anyone kills a police officer they will be the federal death penalty" he said he would sign executive order!
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/18/investigation-into-mississippi-womans-burning-death-leads-to-arrests-17-suspected-gang-members.html?intcmp=hpbt4
Should of been in my post above thanks Scc!
Did everyone feel the jolt yesterday...that was rahm throwing the department under the G's bus during his meeting with investigators.
I'm sure his talking points were along the lines of telling the G to do whatever it takes to clean the department up. As long as it ends with
rahm looking like a contrite, concerned, and helpful partner in change.
Gee, a real investigative reporter that Frank Main. Any supervisor in the position counts on his/her officers to be telling the truth when requesting undercover money. How is Escalante, Cline, or Williams suppose to know Llewelyn was rotten unless they had information he was under investigation by the Feds. We have to document how and when we hand out money, not like the aldercreatures or Mayor. Everything was done by the book here, just a media innuendo from Main that something is wrong. Hang on boys and girls, the shit storm is just starting. Everything you do, legal or proper will be put under a microscope by the media, who will write, "thats not the way it's done on TV"!!! SCC, it does sound like you're agreeing with Frank Main here....we expected better.
Old Retired Guy
Thank you very much SCC, and well said. As a matter of fact I never thought I would see a comment like yours appear here and by you. This is my last year (31), and I thank God he guided me away from the "tarnished ones" in uniform which I found myself surrounded by. Hell, some were in civ-dress. I will be leaving soon as a Patrolman with the utmost of integrity and dignity. I worked hard, especially going around the clock, and suffered a lot, but quietly. I loss colleagues to suicide and prison, but had my moments of laughter and good times with good guys and gals. We made a difference while withstanding the temptations that we swore to oppose. We were the good guys and I want to believe that we were many. Thank you.
Also, you clearly don't know how c/I payments are done because the approving LTs and commanders of units only sign off on the paperwork and are not privy to the identity of the snitch
not buying this. They put bosses in Narcotics bec they are trusted. They would not let some piss-ant blue shirt hand out $800k without knowing where it is going. The PO could be paying himself!
$800 G, that's some serious scratch, and for what?
Listen up,Gooves! I know clouted people that are good guys. Because somebody gets taken care of doesn't make them a bad human being. I would have a hard time saying no to someone helping me. Most are weasels that would step over anyone to get to the next step. That is not the issue. The issue is that people who profit from the clout system benefit from a system that doesn't serve the people that cripples the function of the organization that it exists in and is a disservice to the taxpayers. Good boss or bad, the overt clout that its used by the Mayor helps solidify his rule. The mayor promoting key people into the investigative bodies in the department helps Rahm pick winners and losers in the whole city. "Who benefits?" Rahm. The justice department is ultimately run by Obama a man Rahm helped elect when he chaired the DNC and was chief of staff. This is deep water. This is political shakedown. So all you "he's a good guy" crowd get out of your slave mentality and recognize that these good guys get to places where they feather their nest and work up the ranks. Fyi the supervisor who approved Rahm's kids case report is a decent guy and look where he ended up. Proven loyalty reeps rewards. Loyalty is an admirable quality. Hitler's dogs thought he was a good guy because he was nice to them. Wake up people.
Touchy subject
I don't think SCC is siding with Main, I think he is just presenting a valid point. We are under the microscope more than ever right now. SCC likened it to decisions being made without us having a seat at the table. I like to think of it as a perpetual game of musical chairs that started in late 2007 and lo and behold we never get a chair when the music stops. Where it would be impossible to promote anyone who hasn't had a CR# or a lawsuit, and just because you've had a CR# or a lawsuit it doesn't mean you are guilty of anything, maybe those who have had high profile beefs where someone went to jail should put their surfboard away and wait for a future wave to come in. The current media attack started in late November and there isn't a day that passes that we aren't flogged in the media. Hell, BBC has even joined the fray and I wouldn't be surprised if Al Jazzera joined in to! This current onslaught added to the almost constant barrage from the media since 2007, well what can I say. I'm sure Noel Sanchez will survive aqt his current rank of lt. or captain.
On a lighter note, that story about McCarthy locking himself in his office every day is too funny! Will they have to turn the heat off to the office or board it up to make him leave? Shades of George Costanza!
Sun Times says Garry didn't have a contract.
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/71/1189933/garry-mccarthy-sent-packing-one-months-salary
"McCarthy could not be reached for comment. he was operating on a handshake agreement without a written contract."
Say whaaaaat???
Frank is just an angry man no one will even consider reading any of his bullshit articles relating to RAHM the reformer, the TuTu of transparency. He and Fran "the HorseFace" Spielman's propaganda glorifying Rahm has been redirected by their puppet masters. They are in full attack mode and are willing destroy any and every civic institution with train cars full of one-sided half truths and hate in the hope of saving Mayor falsehood. They are going make the city pay dearly for the betrayal. Their efforts will be as useless as spraying perfume on a 5'6 pile shit. A story about a shirtless Rahm cruising for gay Nazis in 1978 isn't gonna cut this time around. They have no cares of who they hurt, their man if you can call him that, is going down.
Here's an ancient [1960's-1970's] notorious partnership out of the old Kensington Station for any readers to do a little research into; Martis & Kay.
From the same period, dig a little bit into the "Wakefield" case. I know a lot of the inside stories. See what you can come up with. It's pre-internet, so, maybe nothing. Have fun.
"How about the story of two cops who were partners in 010 for years and became business partners in a little store called TNT in the late 1970s. Tee shirts and things. One cop becomes a sergeant and goes to narcotics and straight to head a new task force at DEA in 1980. One year later the cop in 010 is arrested with 9 other cops for taking bribes from street dealers and they are dubbed the Marquette 10 and convicted and sent to the federal pen. In the end, one cop dies in prison jogging and the other cop eats his way up the ladder of success to becoming the superintendent. What is one supposed to think really happened here?"
You are 100% wrong.
Phat phill NEVER worked with TA. TA worked with FD before they went to Tac and while they were on Tac.
And the pay-outs were made at the "Black Site"! Where is the British Press when we need the ultimate truth? "Baby G"
Friends of Phil-010
Did you guys see Mark Kunkel in dnainfo. I think I know who McCarthy has been talking to during his brief paid vacation before the firing.
http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20151218/loop/justice-dept-police-probe-cant-ignore-chicago-way-city-hall-operates
It's going to get interesting. Rahm needs McCarthy to be the fall guy, like Bart Burns for Stanley Kusper, but McCarthy doesn't want to be the fall guy. fighting pretty hard to make sure the Feds see it differently.
Did McCarthy really fight the mayor on the contract's discipline provisions?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
A lot of that information has been in the media before.... like during the coverage of the Lewellen trial and conviction. It's a huge leap to say that anyone remotely involved in that case was dirty and should never receive any future promotions.
12/18/2015 03:37:00 AM
Yup.
Guilt by association is a slippery slope.
And to be heralding Main's articles is kind of, well, scummy.
Wow, well said SCC
OT
Who is the idiot that demanded that CPD officers detailed to the CFD funeral were required to wear "black gloves" with their formal uniform. Since when are black gloves authorized? I watched the funeral on TV and every CFD I was was wearing the prescribed white gloves. Correct me is I'm wrong but aren't white gloves the only gloves authorized?
Corruption
Anonymous Anonymous said...
All promotions should be placed on hold until the investigations are completed.
12/18/2015 12:43:00 AM
No. The investigations could take more than a year and the Dept has to function in the interim.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
People 35th Street have been saying McCarty has been showing up to work everyday.
He just shows up and locks himself in the office!
Channel 7 confirms it!!
http://abc7chicago.com/news/cpd-supt-mccarthy-wouldnt-resign-so-he-was-fired/1127182/
12/18/2015 01:45:00 AM
Just him and his trusty shredder? What could go wrong!!?!!
Escalante should have had his personal stuff boxed up and delivered to his home.
The computers should have been removed and secured and the office lock should have been changed.
This PROVES how unprofessional this department is. Hell, every corporation escorts their fired executives from the building immediately. (But CPD encourages, enables and assists OUR fired executives to use our resources to cover their tracks, to shop for new employment and inflict further damage on a bad situation.)
While we're talking about the media, what about all the different media outlets print and broadcast who were responsible for spreading the Northwestern Innocence Project and Peoples law Office concerted efforts to free the double murderer Anthony Porter who had his sentence commuted and was the poster boy for eliminating the death penalty by our criminal governor george ryan as a result of their efforts. Then they framed an innocent man to take his place in prison and you the media are just as responsible for this injustice as the people who initiated it. You are suppose to be providing an unbiased public service when reporting the news but your reporting more resembles the writing found in supermarket tabloids. Just this morning I'm listening to the WGN morning news and the reporters are still using the prepared statement regarding Jason VanDyke that lq was shot while walking away from officers. I invite any of you media scum to rethink your position of sensationalism over the truth because the truth is lq was closing the distance between him and the officer NOT WALKING AWAY. There is a special place in hell reserved for people like you who promote the efforts of the DEVIL and vilify those who do God's work. You sir and all like you are the anti-Christ.
DOJ announced a hotline and email given for citizens to call in police misconduct. In my opinion -bypassing IPRA and throwing us straight under the bus. You want to get investigated by The Feds ? SCC call for an all out work stoppage.
Riveting read from LAPD blogger "Jack Dunphy" dated Wednesday, December 16:
CLICK HERE
Speaking of the Marquette 10 wasn't one of the son's a U.S. Marshal who is in jail for passing information to outfit guys during family secret case. Also isn't another Marquette 10 son soon to be a lieutenant on the CPD. Just asking.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The 99% of lawyers make the others look bad.
Do you want the same thing to be said about your profession?
If not, clean it up.
12/18/2015 02:51:00 AM
Sure thing pal,
some of us have been thirsting
for this "clean-up" as long as it
results in clout and political
interference being taken out back and
Shot-Gunned to pieces...
That way, the unclouted, no friend having
blue suit can finally be free to do this damned job
the way it needs to be done. Reflective of the mood
Of the current times of course.
Bland, flavorless, un-exciting, non-controversial to the point of driving
the media, joyful haters, and the catered-to-constituent/
perpetual grievance industrial complex to suicide...
"The cops just show up, drop a report, whistle for a clean-up/
wash-down then disappear!"
That's what everybody wants, right?
After The Police are "cleaned up,"
you and those in YOUR profession (and others)
can graciously sit your smug and
judgemental asses in the Garotting Chair
of "accountability" you so thirst to see Policemen sitting in.
"Urk! WAH! Wait!
This is ONLY for those Cops! Right?
Why ME?"
Imagine if the human element were wrung
out of Policing. Then what?
Meanwhile:
The Catered-To-Constituent/Perpetual Grievance Industrial Complex
Pop-Up Mob marching around yelling "16 shots!" and other foolishness?
They're trying to execute the greatest political and social pander ever...
They want FUBU Police...
For Us By Us...
No Y/T and Uncle Tom educational standards.
No narcotic screening.
No criminal background investigation.
No psych screening.
Just prove that you've been "oppressed?"
"De-Fund Cee-Pee-Dee an' give dat money to da
Communerty!"
Be assured that Rahm and his interns were/are
frantically war-gaming such a scenario as a possibility.
Just like Rahm war-gamed casting Chicago's first responders
as greedy, lazy, $100K pension and sweet early retirement
getting lay-abouts who are responsible for the municipal financial mess?
Never you mind the fact that nary a Cop, Fireman or Paramedic
has had ANY say in how the municipal treasury is allocated.
Chicago's electorate is mostly the un-diligent
and the intellectually disinterested sorely lacking
in visual acuity and mental clarity.
As An Aside:
The alder mutts think it's amusing to float
giving approval of our contract DIRECTLY
to the electorate?
They REALLY want to realize the end of Policing
as a profession, don't they?
"People 35th Street have been saying McCarty has been showing up to work everyday.
He just shows up and locks himself in the office!"
Costanza!
The sgt's asoc. isn't going say shit about the LT's test. Jimmi aides is retiring soon and has his eye on the promised prize.
SCC, these posts are getting ridiculous, and tarnishing your hard earned and well deserved credibility. Frank Main is a police hating idiot, and is clearly working towards an agenda by attempting to cast Acting Supt Escalante in a bad light. You will not find to better bosses than John Escalante or Noel Sanchez, yet they've been in your sights non-stop for the past two days. What gives?
+++++++++++
Lighten up - SCC is right on. You don't get to the top 20 or 30 or 50 spots without being "someone's guy/gal." Not in Chicago. Doesn't happen. The media is finally doing their job, reading the documents, running Lexis/Nexus searches on lawsuits and seeing who pulls the strings.
Screw lewellen and the thug rodriguez. Both had a hand in a vicious fatal shooting across the street from a PO's house years ago. PO's house was damaged from shots fired during the exchange of gunfire. Both of these assholes got what they deserved. Time in a federal penitentiary.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
DOJ announced a hotline and email given for citizens to call in police misconduct. In my opinion -bypassing IPRA and throwing us straight under the bus. You want to get investigated by The Feds ? SCC call for an all out work stoppage.
12/18/2015 11:48:00 AM
SCC can't do that, since (s)he is still covered by the Rules and Regs.
12/18/2015 12:43:00 AM
No. The investigations could take more than a year and the Dept has to function in the interim.
Yes. The point of the investigation is to prevent the Dept from functioning as usual
You are 100% wrong.
Phat phill NEVER worked with TA. TA worked with FD before they went to Tac and while they were on Tac.
A little reading comprehension needed
And now maybe civilians and the uninitiated of the Department will have a better grasp at the glue that's binds the Chicago Police Department together. Money shared amongst corrupt policemen and the knowledge of each other's misdeeds. And it has corrupted the promotional process all the way to the top. And needs to end now.
IMO this is much to do about nothing. Everyone wants to pile on the police right now and the anti police media are disgusting.
Escalante, Williams, Sanchez. Pena. Great leaders. Bring back someone like Gorman or Patterson. At least they were good bosses. Downtown Ernie Brown was heard telling people that he is being pushed for supt. Goes from Darien to Cook County. Were screwed.
If they bring back Ernie Brown just to have a black face as Supt. then this department is fucked. They'll definitely then need a competent first deputy to run the day to day operations of the department.
On a lighter note, that story about McCarthy locking himself in his office every day is too funny! Will they have to turn the heat off to the office or board it up to make him leave? Shades of George Costanza!
Wonder if he searched for video equipment before returning there
SCC, it does sound like you're agreeing with Frank Main here....we expected better.
Old Retired Guy
Why can't they check things out for themselves, that's why they got the big bucks
How in the f*ck is information about drugs in a drug war that can never be won worth almost $1M over 6 years????Seriously????
I'm sure his talking points were along the lines of telling the G to do whatever it takes to clean the department up. As long as it ends with
rahm looking like a contrite, concerned, and helpful partner in change.
Maybe they won't fall for the political drama or ballet, so to speak
If the FBI still does it, How will they condemn these individuals for working out of the same FBI playbook?
Wonder who they'll flip during this investigation
Everyone is quiet about the current Lt test being compromised, any word on that SSC
So those that cheated is just going to get away with it and that's just how it goes?
Yes
Well said scc.
I'm waiting for you to hammer back at your detractors SCC. It makes me all warm when you do that.
This just keeps getting better. I wonder if he is getting any help from within the Evil City offices...
I mean I wouldn't need VRI if I could get that scratch...
FYI
today the FEDs were in the AREA removing data from all the printers. Looks like the witch hunt begins.(the printer stores everything you print and your PC info)
Next thing will be warrants on patrol officers and Detectives phones to verify who the talked to about the infamous "16 shot" case.
The angle will be fixing the case be wary when supervisors ask you for copies of anything!
Merry XMAS
>still using the prepared statement regarding Jason VanDyke that lq was shot while walking away from officers. I invite any of you media scum to rethink your position of sensationalism over the truth because the truth is lq was closing the distance between him and the officer NOT WALKING AWAY
He was moving at a right angle to the line of fire. I'll grant you that he was not walking away, but will you admit he wasn't closing the distance either.
Downsize that Unit already! PO's and Supervisors!! Since when do you need a Captain in Narcotics!!
OT
Who is the idiot that demanded that CPD officers detailed to the CFD funeral were required to wear "black gloves" with their formal uniform. Since when are black gloves authorized? I watched the funeral on TV and every CFD I was was wearing the prescribed white gloves. Correct me is I'm wrong but aren't white gloves the only gloves authorized?
12/18/2015 11:26:00 AM
Black gloves are worn by police,if tables were turned then cfd would wear black gloves. Opposite
Here is something for feds to investigate this will bring in greatness?:
http://www.midwaydispensary.com/
10 sector in 008 looks like you will getting busier! Beat 815,814 get ready wonder who dropped the huge "manila envelope?" Were the residents consulted? nice way to keep on ruining area!
CEO is Steve Turk
In Charge is Mary McCarthy
for information call 630-728-1992 hmm nice suburban area code! Wonder if they are opening these kind of places near their homes?? Nice and close to airport!
http://www.homefacts.com/address/Illinois/Cook-County/Chicago/60638/5648-S-Archer-Ave/175275127.html
see above high crime rate, looks like they overpaid? wonder if crime will rise higher? who allowed this?
I'm so glad faker is handing out numbers to report alleged police misconduct to the DOJ why doesn't he pass out numbers to report abuse by priests. Hey father faker HOW was that sale on sweaters at Macy's IN the suburbs you POS.
Can't wait till the axe falls on your neck.
Rodriguez was a familiar face at S. Normal.
You mean the old Narcotics office or the command post for Shortshanks?
OT:
I thought IL already taxed pensions--this is different how?
http://states.aarp.org/we-oppose-taxation-of-retirement-income-sc-il-wp-advocacy/#sthash.FPdJGnIb.dpuf
Thanks.
Hey SCC wi all da big name bossess falling out and the next top cop certainly to be of african american decent who do you hav filling the 1st dept position? Enquiring minds wanna kno
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Here's an ancient [1960's-1970's] notorious partnership out of the old Kensington Station for any readers to do a little research into; Martis & Kay.
From the same period, dig a little bit into the "Wakefield" case. I know a lot of the inside stories. See what you can come up with. It's pre-internet, so, maybe nothing. Have fun.
12/18/2015 09:56:00 AM
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My own post got me curious to see what was available on the computer.
I'll give you some research help. The names of the coppers were George Martis and Bernard Kay. Put either of their names into your search engine with a comma and then kensington.
And for Wakefield, first name was Lawrence. Add Chicago after his name. Still interesting reads for young and old cops.
Plus I found some Chicago Police Star Magazines in PDF form that are from the 60's. Some of you [basically old timers] will find them interesting. One even shows our Police Cadet uniform changes and how many of us became the Real Police after the 14 week stint at O'Brien.
"There's a national conversation taking place and guess who doesn't even have a seat at the table? Us." -- SCC
This is not a "conversation." It is a "national one-way screaming" aimed at the police, with the weapon of choice being bullhorns literally at one-inch range from the officers' faces.
Read Extraordinary Popular Delusions And The Madness Of Crowds. This whole LaQuan thing has gone from being a "protest" to an all-consuming mania.
God in Heaven. Take it down a notch, people. It is Christmas time. Everyone wants to kick back a little and go see Star Wars.
Reality check. All the ordinary people in this city, coppers and cab drivers and senior citizens and the gal who works so hard at the convenience store -- so busy it'll take her two hours to even finish a hot dog one bite at a time -- are just trying to get through the day.
The strength of this city comes from people who will stop at a crosswalk and wave you on to go across the street. Nothing more. That simple concern and civility is what holds us together.
Black and white and Mexicano and everybody, we are still holding doors for each other and saying "Please" and Excuse me" and "Thank you, sir, ma'am, sweetie, brother." We get along just fine. Got to give a little love to get some.
God bless all here. Stay safe.
"Escalante should have had [McCarthy's] personal stuff boxed up and delivered to his home.
"The computers should have been removed and secured and the office lock should have been changed.
"This PROVES how unprofessional this department is. Hell, every corporation escorts their fired executives from the building immediately. (But CPD encourages, enables and assists OUR fired executives to use our resources to cover their tracks, to shop for new employment and inflict further damage on a bad situation.)"
12/18/2015 11:43:00 AM
Yes, sir, this is absolutely correct. When the "pack yo' shit" call is heard, it is time to go.
This city government operates its own private planet -- a giant aberration.
The expose' pieces about corrupt police appointees -- I can't call them "officers" -- are fine, but how about turning the spotlight on the other 99% of what's going on here?
I mean stuff like the city paying out OUR MONEY at the rate of $14.00 a gallon for ordinary bleach...you could be mopping the floor with a pretty decent California box wine for that much.
Attn. -- investigative reporters --
Aim a little higher and you'll really bring home some big ones.
It's not rocket science. It's about avoiding *anything* that could possibly have even a whiff or slight appearance of impropriety. Because in today's reality, do do anything less is setting up for a fall.
Basically, the "Chicago Way" isn't the right way despite its prevalence.
Al said --
"We made a difference while withstanding the temptations that we swore to oppose. We were the good guys and I want to believe that we were many."
12/18/2015 08:18:00 AM
Beautiful post, Sir. Thank you for your service.
Now this is the Real Police.
OT: By no means a fan of 9.5, but seeing these "protesters" call for his resignation makes me support him staying until the next election.
These clowns make up about .00007 of the chiraq population.
I think they actually beleive that their tiny group would pick a replacement.
And aren't most of them the same people that supported 9.5 against ah Chewy.
No sense changing the player until you change the playbook.
Re:
"How about the story of two cops who were partners in 010 for years and became business partners in a little store called TNT in the late 1970s. Tee shirts and things. One cop becomes a sergeant and goes to narcotics and straight to head a new task force at DEA in 1980. One year later the cop in 010 is arrested with 9 other cops for taking bribes from street dealers and they are dubbed the Marquette 10 and convicted and sent to the federal pen. In the end, one cop dies in prison jogging and the other cop eats his way up the ladder of success to becoming the superintendent. What is one supposed to think really happened here?"
You are 100% wrong.
Phat phill NEVER worked with TA. TA worked with FD before they went to Tac and while they were on Tac.
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Such bullshit! My Godfather never worked withCline it was Frank D.
Thanks to the earlier poster for correcting the original idiot.
Off topic: male black 30-40 yrs old driving around mt greenwood stealing packages off porches was seen as late as 10:30 pm on Thurs. Driving a tan z21 Tahoe with Texas plates GNP4646 he's on numerous videos.
You are 100% wrong.
Phat phill NEVER worked with TA. TA worked with FD before they went to Tac and while they were on Tac.
12/18/2015 10:28:00 AM
Phatty was on the same tact team as the Marquette 10, so they are all partners, so to speak. But Phatty definitely owned the tshirt business with one of the 10.
OT
Who is the idiot that demanded that CPD officers detailed to the CFD funeral were required to wear "black gloves" with their formal uniform. Since when are black gloves authorized? I watched the funeral on TV and every CFD I was was wearing the prescribed white gloves. Correct me is I'm wrong but aren't white gloves the only gloves authorized?
12/18/2015 11:26:00 AM
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They decided a year ago that black gloves are now preferred with the reefer and white gloves with the blouse. No idea why.........
(OT) Hey SCC I'm shedding tears reading letter from wife of Hero Firefighter Dan who died in warehouse fire read and see if you can hold back tears!Hold you loved ones, never ever forget to say "I Love You!"
As the funeral for Chicago firefighter Daniel Capuano drew to a close Friday, a colleague from his firehouse rose and read a letter by Capuano's wife, Julie, about her life with Capuano. Here's an excerpt.
"Well Dan, I never in a million years thought I'd be writing this to you. We're supposed to be on a beach in Florida right now, enjoying a drink under a tent by the ocean, spending time together. We were going to relax and enjoy each other without any stress for about six days and then come home and celebrate Christmas together. Instead I'm here with you, but definitely not in the way I want to be.
"We've been married for 20 years and I wanted to be with you for a hundred more years. We met before we were even able to drink, at least legally. We got married at the age of 22 and thought it would be smart to move into a house right away, even though neither of us had ever lived away from our parents. That would probably explain why we tried to cut the spine out of a turkey at thanksgiving because we thought it was the turkey's neck. Apparently the neck was inside the turkey already cut, but who knew? That would also explain why, while trimming bushes, you cut the electrical cord and knocked out power to the entire house.
"Remember when you thought I was going to cut your chicken off the bone for you because that's the way your mother used to fix it for you at home? Or how we would debate about how to fold the laundry or which way the toilet paper roll should face? I still say I'm right about that.
"We have such great memories, Dan, but I would give anything in the world to have you back so we could make lots more. We have three beautiful, intelligent and talented children together. It breaks my heart into a million pieces to know you will never get to walk Amanda down the aisle or sit with me while we watch Andrew and Nick play hockey. I'm broken inside by losing you, Dan. I'm just not sure what I'm going to do. I will miss your hands and face, your funny sense of humor, your loving touch, your kisses and our conversations together."
Scc please call for an all out work stoppage. This is getting rediculious!!' Please I'm begging to get the ball going on an all out no activity work stoppage!!!!!
WOW! get ready for this!
http://www.policeone.com/police-products/body-cameras/articles/54685006-San-Francisco-police-change-gun-policy-in-wake-of-fatal-OIS/
San Francisco police change gun policy in wake of fatal OIS
The policy change has the police union crying foul but is supported by law enforcement experts and watchdogs
If you think Escalante is clouted you are to stupid for words
OT
Who is the idiot that demanded that CPD officers detailed to the CFD funeral were required to wear "black gloves" with their formal uniform. Since when are black gloves authorized? I watched the funeral on TV and every CFD I was was wearing the prescribed white gloves. Correct me is I'm wrong but aren't white gloves the only gloves authorized?
12/18/2015 11:26:00 AM
Well, if you had any time on the job you would know, black gloves are authorized with the winter dress uniform with black gloves. Read your orders newbie.
White girl burned to death 17 black animals caught so far, any marches? Obama where is your televised speech?
17 black criminals caught...true, but no connection to burning the white girl...
But there was a copper convicted of raping 13 black women, including one teenager...no mention of that here race baiter...lol
Here's an ancient [1960's-1970's] notorious partnership out of the old Kensington Station for any readers to do a little research into; Martis & Kay.
From the same period, dig a little bit into the "Wakefield" case. I know a lot of the inside stories. See what you can come up with. It's pre-internet, so, maybe nothing. Have fun.
Kensington---Bonaguro.
Cozzi was screwed over by the feds after serving his punishment as designated by the department and jumping through the hoops that the courts demanded under tbe premise of a civil rights violation. Since there seems to be no time limits on civil rights violations. The justice department could start off on the right foot by starting from the top (such as forcing children to eat soap for a punishment) and working their way down. There are plenty of big fish to fry and these are the same fish who are responsible for most of what is wrong with the department. Blue shirts are the pawns in everything. Ignoring the real problems (merit hack exempts with graveyards worth of skeletons in their closet) does absolutely nothing. We are used to being thrown under buses by now.
reply to 11:48:00
We went through this in the Army at Aberdeen Proving grounds. The PTB were hoping to rope in a bunch of sergeants on sexual harassment but what happened was that many of the callers ratted out many general officers. The Army shut down the phone line after a week of this since Congress was being notified on all allegations and the "wrong" crowd was getting in dutch. Maybe you guys should try it (via burner phones naturally)...
About the CFD Funeral
Black glove are authorized for supervisors above the rank of sergeant (Lieutenant and above). The black gloves can only be worn during winter months when wearing the long winter reefer. Police Officers and Sergeants are not authorized to wear black gloves and never have been, it's not even in their uniform specs. Whoever put that information out is a goof!
no seat at the table until it's taken by turning in the mutts.
things changed. it's time.
All promotions should be placed on hold until the investigations are completed.
12/18/2015 12:43:00 AM
No. The investigations could take more than a year and the Dept has to function in the interim.
12/18/2015 11:35:00 AM
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! You are one funny sob!
But, if you were being serious, you are an idiot!
OT but I just went through the ceiling --
WGN 720 Radio just put some guy on the air to promote and get crowdfunding for his invention, "Inspire Hydrant." Supposed to put this thing on your local hydrant and it sprays water all over the place and plays the National Anthem over and over. Total fucking yabble-babbling goof.
Firemen already nailed him about illegal, endangers people for blocks around by dropping water pressure, etc.
What did not get through is how this endangers kids by attracting them into the street to get hit by cars whose drivers' vision may be obscured.
Want to do this, get permit for block party, close street, put out your own sprinkler, rent an air-bouncy, etc.
SOMEONE DID GET THROUGH TO CALL THIS GOOF AN "ASSHAT." I HOPE IT WAS ONE OF THE CREW HERE!
I gotta get my BP back down now. Take care.
No ones above the Law , remember that
CPD Went to the Dogs , The Next Commish should be the Best Qualified Only , Not a a certain Color , only because Shit is Happening , OOOOOOOPS I forgot I'm In Chicago
There's A Whole New Era Coming For CPD ,
Special Events Authorization
The uniform for all sworn members assigned to special events or formal occasions will be specified by the officer who issues the order establishing the assignment of personnel. Normally, the uniform will be the seasonally prescribed dress uniform. White gloves may be specified whenever the spring/fall or winter dress uniform is authorized.
McCarthy wore black gloves at a funeral and thought it was ok. After all, he is the "Sup."
Off Topic But Important.
SUSPICIOUS PACKAGES
A couple of friends of mine in the western suburbs each received a small mailed package about 4"x6"x1" shrink wrapped in opaque white plastic. The package was addressed to "Resident" and there was no return address. My friends thought it was a product sample, possibly box of candy.
Inside was an ornate, but cheaply produced copy of the Quran.
My friends are not Muslim although some of their neighbors whom they have little contact with are. So they are puzzled why they were sent this.
Has anyone else out there also received a Quran? Why?
FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT. Peacefully casting a wide net hoping for converts.
POSSIBLE SPREADING OF A TOXIC WMD. My friends have had these packages all day and did not notice anything suspicious and are in fine health.
CAUSE A PANIC. The idea would be to have people flood Emergency Services with calls and fainting spells when there is actually no danger. Something like this happened years ago and we had to have collection kits to pick up suspicious mail.
CAUSE AN OUTRAGE. Someone may get one of these and act stupidly using a Quran for toilet paper or smearing it with bacon. If someone does this we could have a lot of people, especially cops hurt and even killed.
I don't have one of these and if the news media wants to get on this and track down the source please do. If you get one of these and don't want it the best advice, as always is, for everything is DON'T DO ANYTHING STUPID. Maybe keep it on a shelf and go to the door with it when Jehovah’s Witnesses come calling.
I agree that it's a bunch of fucking clowns down there doing nothing and trying to be important. That's some shit they can do at the district levels but, I guess kissing ass has its privileges
#blackglovesmatter
Anonymous said...
FYI
today the FEDs were in the AREA removing data from all the printers. Looks like the witch hunt begins.(the printer stores everything you print and your PC info)
Next thing will be warrants on patrol officers and Detectives phones to verify who the talked to about the infamous "16 shot" case.
The angle will be fixing the case be wary when supervisors ask you for copies of anything!
Merry XMAS
12/18/2015 02:55:00 PM
Things were easier before computers when we used carbon paper.
I've said this many times at Roll Calls and while handling heater cases.
STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM THE DAMN COPY MACHINE
CONTROL THE PAPERWORK.
People are excited and will want to help and know you have to "Make Packages" and will bring you X-number of copies of what ever they think you need. DON'T.
MAKE ONE PERFECT ORIGINAL
Then make copies from that.
Don't leave shit laying around.
Example: Asshole is charged with Attempted Murder of a female Police Officer. Defense attorney got hold of a copy of an approved GOCR of the incident that was different from the one used at trial. Missing was the defendant words, "I'm gonna kill you bitch!" Case was fixed.
Re: San Fran gun policy.....supported by "Police experts" and watchdog groups.
Man!!!! Are you soft! Most of those "Police experts" are university eggheads that never saw the insde front seat of a squad car and know nothing about working as police .
And the watchdogs are legal groups whose business is sueing police.
Phat phill NEVER worked with TA. TA worked with FD before they went to Tac and while they were on Tac.
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Such bullshit! My Godfather never worked withCline it was Frank D.
Thanks to the earlier poster for correcting the original idiot.
12/18/2015 05:43:00 PM
And Frank D. was also one of the Marquette 10. The point is there is a huge possibility that fatty got away with being Marquette 11. You gotta talk to the real old timers.
Black gloves, white gloves. Who cares. Neither were warm enough for the cold. Was out there all day and I was proud to assist in the procession. The color of the gloves was the least of my problems.
The First Noel
The First Noel, Lewellen did say
had for certain poor vision
in Aurora that day;
In Aurora, that day, he was quiet as a mouse,
while Lewellen framed Ruiz in the back of the house.
Noel, Noel, Noel, Noel,
Born is the King of don't see, don't tell.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Here's an ancient [1960's-1970's] notorious partnership out of the old Kensington Station for any readers to do a little research into; Martis & Kay.
From the same period, dig a little bit into the "Wakefield" case. I know a lot of the inside stories. See what you can come up with. It's pre-internet, so, maybe nothing. Have fun.
12/18/2015 09:56:00 AM
Found a book titled, To Serve and Collect. Richard C. Lindberg is the author.
When former Mayor Byrne passed away the detail was instructed to wear BLACK gloves.
Anonymous The Neanderthal said...
"Escalante should have had [McCarthy's] personal stuff boxed up and delivered to his home.
"The computers should have been removed and secured and the office lock should have been changed.
"This PROVES how unprofessional this department is. Hell, every corporation escorts their fired executives from the building immediately. (But CPD encourages, enables and assists OUR fired executives to use our resources to cover their tracks, to shop for new employment and inflict further damage on a bad situation.)"
The department gave him a letter stating his employment would be terminated 31 dec 15. So I guess he is going to ride it out til the end
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
FYI
today the FEDs were in the AREA removing data from all the printers. Looks like the witch hunt begins.(the printer stores everything you print and your PC info)
Next thing will be warrants on patrol officers and Detectives phones to verify who the talked to about the infamous "16 shot" case.
The angle will be fixing the case be wary when supervisors ask you for copies of anything!
Merry XMAS
12/18/2015 02:55:00 PM
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60 Minutes did a report about a year ago of how printers in drug stores, businesses, well, everywhere, were being siold overseas with all of the data still on their harddrives. Don't go to your corner drugstore with your tax returns!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Here's an ancient [1960's-1970's] notorious partnership out of the old Kensington Station for any readers to do a little research into; Martis & Kay.
From the same period, dig a little bit into the "Wakefield" case. I know a lot of the inside stories. See what you can come up with. It's pre-internet, so, maybe nothing. Have fun.
12/18/2015 09:56:00 AM
Everyone was told that they would be searhed when they left the premises. One guy I know had grown by about six inches in height while in there. He thought it over and left being his normal height. He was also not searhed. Kills him to this day.
Found a book titled, To Serve and Collect. Richard C. Lindberg is the author.
12/19/2015 09:09:00 AM
Black gloves, white gloves. Who cares. Neither were warm enough for the cold. Was out there all day and I was proud to assist in the procession. The color of the gloves was the least of my problems.
12/19/2015 07:43:00 AM
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When you wear the reefer (in cold weather) the order for the detail ALWAYS has stated you wear BLACK gloves.
In warmer weather when you wear the blouse you wear the WHITE gloves.
They decided a year ago that black gloves are now preferred with the reefer and white gloves with the blouse. No idea why.........
12/18/2015 06:03:00 PM
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Uhhh..
because it's sometimes REALLY fuckin' cold in the winter and you can get frostbite if you wear thin white gloves. duhhh?
"WGN 720 Radio just put some guy on the air to promote and get crowdfunding for his invention, "Inspire Hydrant." Supposed to put this thing on your local hydrant and it sprays water all over the place and plays the National Anthem over and over."
12/18/2015 11:11:00 PM
You can search the entire U.S. Patent Office online now, all the drawings and everything. I think it's uspto.gov.
Technically you can get a patent on something "original, new, different," but that doesn't mean it'll ever sell. Files are loaded with luminous propeller beanies, beds that automatically dump you on the floor when the alarm clock goes, chicken-powered typewriters, you name it.
This one was genuinely dangerous, though, and the guy is a real jerk.
"Found a book titled, To Serve and Collect. Richard C. Lindberg is the author."
12/19/2015 09:09:00 AM
Same guy who did the one on the Schuessler/Peterson murders. Whatta read, especially if you know/love NW side. I got photos all around Lawrence/Milwaukee, the Fannie May, the big liquor store sign, the old jewelry store there with the 1940s neon sign, before it all came down to build that CVS there. Boy, this used to be the heart of shopping, now so many vacant storefronts...
Technically you can get a patent on something "original, new, different," but that doesn't mean it'll ever sell. Files are loaded with luminous propeller beanies, beds that automatically dump you on the floor when the alarm clock goes, chicken-powered typewriters, you name it.
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I would really, really like one of those luminous propeller beanies!
"SUSPICIOUS PACKAGES
"A couple of friends of mine in the western suburbs each received a small mailed package about 4"x6"x1" shrink wrapped in opaque white plastic. The package was addressed to "Resident" and there was no return address.
"Inside was an ornate, but cheaply produced copy of the Quran."
12/18/2015 11:54:00 PM
That is a hell of a way to "improve communication," "build understanding" at a very tense time.
I mean, someone comes to the door about it and it would just be, "Oh yes, our religious organization mails lots of these out for free every day. See here in the office." Boxes of the things, label printing machine, etc. No problem.
Sgt MO from Area North is confirmed MERIT. You can stop lying now.
WRONG
Example: Asshole is charged with Attempted Murder of a female Police Officer. Defense attorney got hold of a copy of an approved GOCR of the incident that was different from the one used at trial. Missing was the defendant words, "I'm gonna kill you bitch!" Case was fixed. douche.
Copper added a (^ up triangle) and added the phrase instead of rewriting the whole case report & narrative. That was the mistake we heard every day in case reporting class 30 years ago. Worked for both the female and her husband supervisors. The lawyer stated it was added later which was a lie. Bench trail Judge Paserrila let him go saying there was doubt but in reality case was fixed by the outfit.
Sgt MO from Area North is confirmed MERIT. You can stop lying now.
Yeah everyone knows that the head of "Cover Girl's" war paint department put her in for it.
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