Tuesday, January 19, 2016

A Chicago Gun Store?

  • A Chicago man is pitching plans to open the city's only gun store and gun range.

    Irving Park resident Christopher O'Connor plans to open Firearms Defense Training Center, a full service gun range and gun shop in a warehouse at 613 N. Union Ave. in an industrial corridor of River West. The building is located near the Tribune's Freedom Center printing plant, the WaterSaver Faucet Company and the Chicago River.

    After decades of fighting legal challenges against Chicago's strict gun restrictions, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the city's handgun ban in 2010. In 2012, a federal appeals court struck down Illinois' concealed carry ban and the City Council passed an ordinance in 2014 overturning the ban.
But he'll still have to get it through the City Council's "Zoning Board of Appeals," and there isn't nearly enough bribe money being passed around to do that.

Here's an amusing admission from the local aldercreature though:
  • "So long as residents don't have a problem with it, I don't think it's a big deal," [Ald. Walter Burnett Jr. (27th)] said. "Everyone I run into now has a conceal carry permit. You don't want a bunch of folks to have guns and not know what they're doing with them."
Really? Everyone? In Rahm's "gun-free" Chicago, Home of the Often Ignored "Beretta 92F Banned" Signs? Imagine that.

But again, it's bound to fail based on simple economics:
  • If approved, the 25,000-square-foot Firearms Defense Training Center would "look like an Apple Store" and provide a consultative experience to prospective gun buyers, he told DNAinfo Chicago Thursday.

    Gun stores "are no longer a dank, dark, smelly spots with shelves and shelves of guns," said O'Connor, 33. "This will be an accessible store. The goal is to find the right gun for you."

    The gun shop would feature armored display cases and two classrooms on site.

    Under the city's rules, gun shop owners must videotape all gun sales and open their books for inspection by Chicago Police. Gun buyers are limited to buying one gun every 30 days.
Sure, and if we find gun we like, we'll simply get a quote, travel outside of Cook County, and buy it there for $100 bucks less, without worrying about videotaping or 30 day limits. We'll also pick up ammo at $0.05 per round less, thanks to Prickwrinkle's bullet tax. It's not like Chicago/Cook County needs businesses to thrive, right?

UPDATE: And the usual layers of media fact-checking fail once again:
  • To date, no gun store has opened in Chicago. The closest gun ranges are located in suburban Zion, Lombard and Riverdale. There is also a gun range in Lyons.
We can think of one under 2 miles away from Chicago, but hey, "journalism" is hard.

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92 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maxon in Des Plaines

1/19/2016 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chicago's city fathers/mothers just want to keep the city's citizens safe and unpolluted by firearms. People that hang around gun stores/ranges often come to no good end. //s

1/19/2016 01:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic St Paul MN Sergeant is suspended and going to be fired for a Facebook post on his own account on his own time.
He suggested that motorists run over the BLM protesters if they block the roads.
They blocked a bridge between Minneapolis and St Paul today.

I guess police officers have no 1st Amendment Rights?

1/19/2016 01:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gun range right in an area were real estate taxes are through the roof... Who the hell would want to go there to rent out the range. Would definitely be cheaper to do all your buying and range time in the suburbs.

1/19/2016 01:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope you will support his court battles and lawsuits against these stupid and unconstitutional taxes and laws.
Your people know just how stupid, useless and idiotic they are!

1/19/2016 01:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope you at least use the range to practice.
The big cities like Chitcago are going to get very exciting the next two years, what with BLM, ISIS, and the gangs trying to expand their territory.
Practice, practice, practice! The life you save may be your own!

1/19/2016 01:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Midwest guns in Lyons also videotapes all sales. I prefer to use a store about 30 minutes south of the city. Yea,the guns aren't as cheap,but I don't have to deal with the bullshit or pay the $25 gun tax.

1/19/2016 01:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If they get the go from the socialists... Everything will be over priced and heavily taxed. Taxes will go to support the folks who are anti guns. Leave the constitutional stuff to the suburbs far away from the city. Everyone is protesting and seems to me like none hold merit. We are screwed. Stay fetal.

1/19/2016 01:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Zion? One doesn't need to go all the way up there - just stop at GTR Sporting Club, 3059 W. Washington, Waukegan.

It's the gun shop that the guy wants to build in Chiraq, only it's built and operational now. 22 lanes, 8 of which are tactical (target spin 'go/no-go', lights or no lights), great air quality, FFL Xfers, gun shop, ammo, clothing, food, CCL classes, and more...

There's on in Crystal Lake, something in Lincolnwood, one in West Dundee... Ottawa, IL they're more prevalent than the article leads on. But you can't have the sheeple realizing that, they might suddenly have an epiphany about how their herders are lying to them or something.... wwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhttttt? baaaaaaa...

1/19/2016 02:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As nice as it sounds it's simply a pipe dream here in dictator Rahm's Chicago.

1/19/2016 03:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Better ask mikey and jesse , ya know they spend alot of time in front of certain gun shops. Funny how all the crime guns used to come from here or there now they all come from Indiana gun shows, I guess that issue is a moving target , and it changes to suit the current agenda

1/19/2016 04:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the poster throwing up the 009th district picture with rahm: why don't you just tell him that a previous superintendent took a suspension for supporting a politicians campaign and you don't want that to happen to you.

Or just grow a fucking set of balls and tell him the truth, that he has pandered to the people that he needs to buy votes from by throwing the entire CPD under the bus and you must politely refuse. And by the way, can he share the evidence that he has on his documented "blue code of silence" so the rest of us could start using it.

Otherwise, shut the fuck up and stop wasting space here.

1/19/2016 04:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Before we had concealed carry Walter Burnett Jr. knew all sorts of people that carried firearms. Let's never forget the armed robbery conviction he had BEFORE he was elected Alderman.

The voters in this town are ridiculous. The people of his ward couldn't find someone without a conviction for an armed felony? The rest of us couldn't find a mayoral candidate with ten fingers and a soul to vote for?

1/19/2016 05:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gun ranges ain't thinking of getting rid of the dank, are they???
Ehhh, the dank!!

1/19/2016 05:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC - Thank you for not revealing the location of the gun shops/ranges which are
close to the city. If the media whores keep screwing up - more people will reject their drivel. The other media circus is the coverage of the Ch 7 producer slain in Belize. It was ridiculous to hear the reporters bitch that "Belize authorities would not provide any specifics." Nice to see a government which tells our media morons to go fly a kite. Their deadlines do not coincide with the medias and they are not going to jeopardize their investigation to please Chuck & his I Team.

1/19/2016 05:58:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

I hope the guy makes a killing.

1/19/2016 06:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even if they open a gun store with range in Chicago, the taxes would be high. Just think of the city's sales tax. Why would anyone want to buy a gun here? Much better deals outside the county.

1/19/2016 06:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Soon we'll have a new gun range here in Oak Forest "Eagle" on 159th between central ave and arroyo

1/19/2016 06:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Journalsm is hard indeed. I mean if you went to Northwestern University, you had to watch a live sex show as part of a class, learn how to frame innocent people and get the guilty out of prison while offering sex to the convict, explore your "white privilege" and learn to make decisions while knowing everything you do is racist, kiss the asses of all of your communist professors and parrot their words so you can pass the class, learn class guilt because your parents sent you to a rich school instead of redistributing the wealth they earned to the masses, and do drugs to make it easier to accept that you have given up your soul to communism. How good do you think your research skills are when you hit the real world for that unpaid internship position?

1/19/2016 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"There is also a gun range in Lyons"> Hello...is there anybody out there? Any news leeches that actually research a story? That "gun range" happens to be a very busy gun store. Oh, well, why bother getting the facts when you can just letter your fingers do the walking.

1/19/2016 08:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The guy better have a lot of bread to pay all the bribes to officials to get
business running. I wouldn't go there, fuck Chicago and cook with there high taxes.
Go out of state, or burbs with your business,again fuck Chicago! and Fuck the cubs!

1/19/2016 08:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love reading this blog!!! I even share it with people who want to see how ridiculous things are in this city. Usually you are on point. Chicago is the next Detroit on every level. I cannot wait to leave this shyt hole and the none stop taxing of everything and everyone. Keep up the good work.

1/19/2016 08:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No way, those other towns with gun stores have streets running with blood from all the gun violence........

1/19/2016 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

check out m&m guns in south elgin, they have guns and offer classroom. if you can get mike to be quiet you might get some good deals.

1/19/2016 08:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of gun stores. I will never shop at Shore Galleries because they are assholes. You go in there and ask a question and they talk down to you, they are condescending and arrogant. So fuck em. I always give a business a pass for bad service, rude service, etc. But after it happened multiple times I gave up on them. I did paper for a batter on a security guard (he was armed). He asked me a bunch of questions and he asked what gun store I recommend. So I told him but I also told him not to go to Shore Galleries. He then told me he had the same experience. He asked the guy at Shore's how do I know if I put too much lubrication on my gun? The clerk told him: if you can't figure that out on your own then you should think twice about carrying around a gun for a living and then he followed with let me explain it to you the way I would with my 14 year old cousin.... They are assholes over there, don't give them your business.

P.S. My partner went over there and asked the guy a question about oc spray. The clerk told him why do you need oc spray, are you afraid to fight with your own two hands? That is typical Shore Galleries mentality- insult your customers while making a buck off them.

1/19/2016 09:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like going to Bell's Guns on Mannheim Road. They are the best, ten minutes from me, $5 range fee and ammo prices are great too. I just bought my brand new Colt Python there for $175, most other places wanted over $200. Plenty of parking too for the protesters.

1/19/2016 09:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At a time like this, it’s easy to blame guns for what happened and call for drastic measures in hopes of preventing this kind of violence from occurring again. But the reality is that no law can prevent a determined individual from taking human lives. Even if we banned guns entirely, the reality is that someone’s just going to invent, manufacture, and use a high-powered knife launcher to commit mass murder.

1/19/2016 09:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There s a gun store going up in Niles. Right now, the NY libs have dumped thousands of dollars into trying to block it. They have gotten as little support from some village officials. I guess money talks there too. Screw the people who live there.

1/19/2016 09:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...


Soon we'll have a new gun range here in Oak Forest "Eagle" on 159th between central ave and arroyo

1/19/2016 06:59:00 AM
I am hearing mixed messages about this place, whether or not it will open up.

1/19/2016 09:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off Topic Butt Important..

Spike Lee boycotting the Academy Awards,

Reason = Not enuff black nominations !

I, know you care.. Stay Fetal, during these racist Hollywood times !

1/19/2016 09:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All of the indoor ranges in the Chicago area are far too expensive. Go to Indiana for your practice it is MUCH cheaper.

1/19/2016 10:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maxon in Des Plaines

1/19/2016 12:42:00 AM
How is that joint?.. I recently heard about it and read the reviews on Yelp.. People mostly complained that they got their feelings hurt because the staff wasn't polite which I can give two shits about. Any real problems there? Thanks

1/19/2016 10:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Buy your firearms online through a site like gunbroker.com and get a discounted price and pay no taxes. I happily do that and still save boatloads of money even with the $25 FFL transfer fee over retail gun shops in the Chicago area.

1/19/2016 10:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

whoopee Goldberg suggests blacks boycott movies without black movie stars
good idea
now let us boycott movies with black movie stars
that would be a better idea
time to shut up the cry baby black actors , not enough this , not enough that

1/19/2016 10:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sporting Arms in Posen--just slightly south of Chuck's in Riverdale
Deb's in Hammond, IN (Shop and Range)
Also one in Glenwood (Glenwood Gun Shop & Range)
But the downtown CCL/CCW crowd might pay for a boutique store/range.
I wish the promoters well; hope they have good lawyers.

1/19/2016 10:27:00 AM  
Blogger DRK said...

Can anyone tell me why, when I try to click on this link from the SUN TIMES, it takes me to the TRIBUNE?


http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/71/1262265/state-lawmakers-push-wave-of-police-measures-in-wake-of-laquan-mcdonald-case

1/19/2016 11:08:00 AM  
Blogger DonP said...

Another new store and range opening in Mokena, about 300 feet across the Will County border just south of I-80. Funny, all these new ranges and stores with record high NICS checks and the Lefties insisting that there are "fewer gun owners" every year.

1/19/2016 11:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Even if they open a gun store with range in Chicago, the taxes would be high. Just think of the city's sales tax. Why would anyone want to buy a gun here? Much better deals outside the county.

1/19/2016 06:58:00 AM

I'd definitely use the range.

1/19/2016 11:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Gun range right in an area were real estate taxes are through the roof... Who the hell would want to go there to rent out the range. Would definitely be cheaper to do all your buying and range time in the suburbs.

1/19/2016 01:13:00 AM

Yep. Better to save a few pennies (and spend them on gas to the burbs).
Why bother SUPPORTING someone who's on our side?
This is why attempts to DEFY Rahm and his fellow zealots fail. Because we're all too shortsighted to support and assist the few who try.

1/19/2016 11:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Gun buyers are limited to buying one gun every 30 days."

Illegal/Unconstitutional

1/19/2016 11:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck Midwest, they pulled their pants down and let Father Flakey convince them to sign a village/anti ord to tape and open books.
They want to have a better relationship with the anti/village first before they actually stand up straight and let their balls hang down like a man. Pucker it up and roll over to keep from being hassled from Da Man!
This range would be just another reason for the "honor students" to hang out looking for free strap-ons.
Wake the fuck up sheeple and buy your shit outside Crook county, next they will offer you all a badge to wear on your sleeves as a show of strength that you bow under the oppression that is Chiraq, all Hail King Rahm-a-Don!

1/19/2016 11:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember when they had one on the lake? Wasn't it by Diversey?

1/19/2016 12:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is doomed, just because of Father Pleger's politics-over-religion protests, sit-ins, die-ins, taggers, saboteurs of every kind, liberal liars, picketers, people with nothing better to do than bully the shop rather than having any kind of logical argument.

1/19/2016 12:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

About time! hey rahm you want everything equal? your valets are trained to cart you around armed, why not sponsor training for thugs so this way we save billions is costs no more injuring other thugs train them to shoot straight, would prevent innocents getting hit this would be winning!

1/19/2016 12:44:00 PM  
Anonymous I said...

Beretta 92F? Damn, I thought it was a desert eagle. And here I'v been going in with my Beretta all this time.

1/19/2016 12:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fun Fact- the CPD annual prescribed weapon qualifications are being postponed several months. Due to the fact that the city does not have enough ammo. You can not make this shit up!

1/19/2016 01:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would not be surprised if he gets permission from the city. The city has lost a bunch of court cases on guns, and probably does not want to lose another one. It looks to me like he has found a spot that makes sense and none of the neighbors are going to object.

NAC

1/19/2016 01:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny, gun ranges and gun stores are pretty common and everyday in most medium and large cities in the U.s. Yet there are none in Chicago?

1/19/2016 01:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

 Anonymous said...

Gun range right in an area were real estate taxes are through the roof... Who the hell would want to go there to rent out the range. Would definitely be cheaper to do all your buying and range time in the suburbs.

1/19/2016 01:13:00 AM
Yea, cause all those suburban taxes pay our salaries and pensions. Keep it local bro.

1/19/2016 01:33:00 PM  
Anonymous The Neanderthal said...

I remember in the '60s when Abercrombie and Fitch (VL&A, the real gentleman's store) had rifles on display right in their street-level windows on Wabash. Marshall Field's Store For Men in the annex building had firearms and a full-time gunsmith on the premises. Woolworth's downtown sold firearms. So did Sears Roebuck, Montgomery Wards, and the S&H Green Stamp redemption center up in Wieboldt's.

...and that was just right in the Loop. No one thought anything of it.

Has nothing to do with guns. It's our society that's been warped and twisted beyond recognition.

1/19/2016 01:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For everyone complaining about taxes. Do any of you have a fucking clue how high property taxes are in the burbs. Yea that candy bar, gas or TV might be a little cheaper in the burbs but your paying easy a few grand more in property taxes. Get your facts straight. Stop complaining

1/19/2016 01:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was going to say something snarky about the west side being a outdoor range, but decided against it. That said, why would you one one anywhere near downtown? There has to be lots of empty ex factories throughout the city. Places with parking, free parking even.

1/19/2016 01:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Wyatt Earp said...

Well played Sir!!

1/19/2016 02:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off topic St Paul MN Sergeant is suspended and going to be fired for a Facebook post on his own account on his own time.
He suggested that motorists run over the BLM protesters if they block the roads.
They blocked a bridge between Minneapolis and St Paul today.

I guess police officers have no 1st Amendment Rights?

Lawsuit time. What you do in your own time in the privacy of your home while exercising 1st amendment is YOUR business. Unless he identified and included his dept in the post he has a case.

1/19/2016 02:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I leave Cook county for everything. F them

1/19/2016 03:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/01/19/police-board-president-lori-lightfoot-says-cpd-must-adapt-to-changing-world/

don't worry Lori, we got that part fetalized already.

1/19/2016 03:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The guy will pay dearly....in taxes, fees, safety equipment, security, inspectors and the City Hall handouts. He would be better off outside of the city limits. The instruction range would be fine, the location is shitsville, but sell your wares beyond the reach of Democrat, but he should know that already.
Good Luck.

1/19/2016 04:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

07:58 - Love your listing of the various scandals throughout recent NU MEDILLDO School of Journalism history. One of our biggest Medilldoes, Chuckie & his I'm Geat Team, is heading down to Belize to teach the authorities how he conducts a biased and false investigation while acting like a pimp. These media whores are blatantly making hay out of the murder of one of their own and no one calls them out. Hey Carlitos -"hope you have a translator since most of Belize's criminals are from Guatemala and speak Spanish. Asshat!

1/19/2016 05:10:00 PM  
Blogger Madmanicus said...

OT, but is there a reason why when I try to access SCC via google chrome it takes me to Xfinity activation.

1/19/2016 05:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT

who ever got their power point slides stolen by this goof, needs to get part of the money he just got..................

http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2016/01/19/roberts-why-we-paying-225000-rid-asu-professor/79005608/

1/19/2016 05:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just heard liberal anti-police board head lightfoot on radio saying they will be releasing officers name quickly in incidents she said "welcome to the real world people are struggling to find jobs" what kind of goof says this? In the real world people arrested are not attacking police officers like they are here lightfoot another Lori Lightfoot just another liberal loser trying to hurt police officers is not is not a game being a police officer in the city of Chicago is extremely hard and you're tired of people like you make it worse you with the media government media complex director very hard for policeman to do their jobs every single day Lori you wonder why police officers are fetal well you're not a one of the reasons.

1/19/2016 06:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BREAKING NEWS - Its Gonna Happen:

Breaking news at this hour: "Chicago Tonight” has learned that Gov. Bruce Rauner and top Republican leaders are planning to introduce legislation aimed at an emergency financial takeover of the city of Chicago and Chicago Public Schools. This comes in light of an imminent $500 million shortfall within the Chicago Public Schools system.

The Republican leaders are set to announce the legislation tomorrow, but Paris Schutz has the exclusive information tonight.

Sources tell “Chicago Tonight” that the governor and his top two legislative leaders – Senate minority leader Christine Radogno and House minority leader Jim Durkin will file a package of legislation Wednesday that would allow for an emergency financial oversight board appointed by the state to take over the financially strapped school district. Other legislation would allow for emergency financial oversight of the credit-beleaguered city of Chicago.

Legislation would also allow for CPS and the city of Chicago to declare bankruptcy – something by law both cannot currently do.

We’re also told that the legislation would call for an elected Chicago Public Schools board once the financial situation is remediated. This comes in light of the fact that CPS has set now as a deadline to receive $500 million in relief from the state or else it will lay off thousands of employees, including teachers.

So far, no pink slips have gone out.

I asked the governor today if that left bankruptcy as the only other option to save the entire system from failing. The governor hinted at big new efforts at relief for CPS, but did not get into specifics.

“I’m very concerned about the trajectory of where we’re going for CPS,” Rauner said. “We are going to take action to protect the school children so they have good access to teachers, and effective children. We’re going to protect the children and the taxpayers too. We’re in heated negotiations right now. I won’t go into further detail.”

The governor went on to say he couldn’t guarantee CPS layoffs wouldn’t happen.

Neither the governor’s office nor Radogno and Durkin are confirming the details of this plan.

It would have to pass the Democratic-controlled General Assembly. Lawmakers are currently not scheduled to return to Springfield until next Wednesday.

1/19/2016 07:20:00 PM  
Blogger West loop realist said...

How could ex con armed robber walter Burnett the gang banger friendly alderman be against a gun store? Is he the only one who can defend hinself?

1/19/2016 07:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will never happen! Chicago is anti-gun city where they keep citizens unarmed but the gang bangers, crooked aldermans and mayor (with his CPD security detail) are the only protected ones.

1/19/2016 08:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If they get the go from the socialists... Everything will be over priced and heavily taxed. Taxes will go to support the folks who are anti guns. Leave the constitutional stuff to the suburbs far away from the city. Everyone is protesting and seems to me like none hold merit. We are screwed. Stay fetal.

1/19/2016 01:47:00 AM

Disagree. The message of opening a gun store/range in the city of Chicago touches on an important point: it's a Constitutional right, one that has been denied to Chicagoans for many decades due to Democrat Party fascism. Let the store open. Let freedom reign

1/19/2016 08:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT,

Your next post should feature Lamon Reccord receiving a PEACE award sponsored by CTU. His behavior toward police is disgusting and so is CTU leadership.

1/19/2016 09:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Say bye bye to VRI!







Ervin pegged the cost at $700 to $1,000 per Taser and between $8.75 million and $12.5 million for the entire force. Training the roughly 80 percent of Chicago Police officers who are still not certified in how to use Tasers would raise the price tag even more.


Ervin, vice-chairman of the City Council’s Budget Committee, said that the cost could easily be absorbed by shaving the $100 million in annual police overtime used to mask a manpower shortage with no results to show for it.

“When we deem something necessary, we put the resources behind it. I’m not concerned about the cost. The lawsuits [stemming from allegations of wrongful death and excessive force] cost us a helluva lot more,” he said.


Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Chicago-Aldermen-Propose-CPD-Changes-365737401.html#ixzz3xkhVM3MG
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1/19/2016 09:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Four mutts shot this afternoon by Du Sable. So the answer according to the liberals is support politicians who want to limit our protections under the bill of rights to resolve the societal and cultural problem THEY largely caused. Unacceptable and it will not be tolerated. We have plenty of gun laws, lets start enforcing them.

1/19/2016 10:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this goes through I hope he sells thousands. There will be scores up in arms about "blood in the streets." Perhaps if it's people that are doing stupid things to bring society down it will make the world a bit safer for the rest of us.

1/19/2016 10:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lots of people with money in that area that are willing to pay for convience. Wouldnt write it totally off

1/19/2016 11:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Paul Kersey said...

Gun ranges in Chicago?

Chicago already has two large, outdoor ranges for any weapon and caliber and are open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. AND - they are both free-of-charge.

You should know that.

They are called the South and West sides.

1/20/2016 12:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blue Code of Silence? Whatever the he'll that is pales in comparison and seriousness compared to the "Black Code of Silence",
You know that code that is never addressed by phoney Priests, Black
Politicians, mail order Reverunds and the current embarrassment that currently occupies the White House. That Code of Silence allows murderers to go free and commit hundreds of other murders. Any comment BLM, the various Black Caucuses, Ms Prepwincle, Karen Lewis or any other of the leaders of the Black Community.......
The silence is deafening.

1/20/2016 01:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would travel into the city to support this store if it actually happens even though I am a stones throw from Maxon. The city has screwed its own law abiding citizens for far too long. Plus it would be fun to watch father Pleghm's head of explode.

1/20/2016 01:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is so common in discussions about "why would someone want to go here or there for this or that.." no one considers there are plenty of down town residents that aren't traveling .... the service is coming to them. I completely understand why someone may not come downtown because of higher prices and sales tax. But the reason we live a 15 minute walk to work is because we value our time differently. I may not like paying a higher price either, but I'm not going to make a trip out to the suburbs to save $100 on something.

1/20/2016 02:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Would not patronize it due to the high tax that would have to be paid for guns and ammo and the BS purchasing regulations. I'll just drive out to the 'burbs.

1/20/2016 04:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cabela's in Hoffman estates, Mega-Sports in Plainfield are just two places which offer a wide variety of firearms. Over the border in Indiana there is Blythe's in Griffith & Valpo. Also Cabela's in Highland. Indiana is my preferred state to buy but for long guns (rifle & shotgun) only. If you're a Illinois resident and want to buy a pistol you have to do a FFL transfer to a store in IL, lot of hassle, time, & money.

Buy a firearm in Chicago? Pay the 10% Sales Tax and all the other bullshit that goes with it? When Pigs Fly....

1/20/2016 08:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Legislation would also allow for CPS and the city of Chicago to declare bankruptcy – something by law both cannot currently do.
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Since the pension mess in Chicago can't be cleaned up by Illinois due to the bizarre constitutional clause prohibiting any rational fix, it is probably best for the federal bankruptcy courts to do it. They are used to working with this kind of financial mess. They were able to handle the Detroit mess pretty cleanly.

My guess is Rahm and Madigan will stomp their feet and claim it is all those bad Republicans who are doing this, while arranging enough D votes in the legislature so it passes.

NAC

1/20/2016 09:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

St Paul MN Sergeant is suspended and going to be fired for a Facebook post on his own account on his own time.
He suggested that motorists run over the BLM protesters if they block the roads.
They blocked a bridge between Minneapolis and St Paul today.

I guess police officers have no 1st Amendment Rights?
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People are charged for advocating violence against police on a pretty regular basis. What makes it OK for a cop to advocate violence?

NAC

1/20/2016 09:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BREAKING NEWS - Its Gonna Happen:

"Breaking news at this hour: "Chicago Tonight” has learned that Gov. Bruce Rauner and top Republican leaders are planning to introduce legislation aimed at an emergency financial takeover of the city of Chicago and Chicago Public Schools. ."


OK.. "Mr. It's Gonna Happen" .. He is where you are lacking in your reading skills.
You missed the LAST sentence:

"It would have to pass the Democratic-controlled General Assembly. Lawmakers are currently not scheduled to return to Springfield until next Wednesday."


Now go back to reading comic books in your Reading 101 class.

1/20/2016 09:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic St Paul MN Sergeant is suspended and going to be fired for a Facebook post on his own account on his own time.
He suggested that motorists run over the BLM protesters if they block the roads.
They blocked a bridge between Minneapolis and St Paul today.

I guess police officers have no 1st Amendment Rights?

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If he represented himself as a "St Paul Police Officer" he does not have a case.

If he is just a private citizen he has a case.

ANYONE who states he is a copper on Facebook is a moron.

1/20/2016 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@0113
The 1st Amendment does not have anything to do with employment. Its protection from government persecution and arrest...not work environment. Also, assuming you're a cop you should know that he poses a lot of liability if someone actually does it. I don't know about being fired but he definitely is lacking the common sense a supervisor should have.

1/20/2016 10:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the asshat saying that property taxes are high in the suburbs. Yeah they are but not by much and the biggest point you get more services for those taxes. Can you say " no private school tuition." Some of the schools in the west and northwest suburbs are the best in the country. Not the state, the COUNTRY. So would i pay a couple G's more a year (my taxes rival suburban taxes anyway and im sure most coppers living on the sw and nw sides are closing in on those suburban rates), to save the 15k/yr for Loyola H.S. Plus our once quiet neighborhoods are starting to be not so quiet anymore. Stop trolling for the city....

1/20/2016 11:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
To the asshat saying that property taxes are high in the suburbs. Yeah they are but not by much and the biggest point you get more services for those taxes. Can you say " no private school tuition." Some of the schools in the west and northwest suburbs are the best in the country. Not the state, the COUNTRY. So would i pay a couple G's more a year (my taxes rival suburban taxes anyway and im sure most coppers living on the sw and nw sides are closing in on those suburban rates), to save the 15k/yr for Loyola H.S. Plus our once quiet neighborhoods are starting to be not so quiet anymore. Stop trolling for the city....

1/20/2016 11:06:00 AM

One size doesn't fit all, 1116hrs. Lots of us don't have to consider tuition at Loyola high school, or any school. A friend in Orland pays thirteen thousand in r.e. taxes. I pay a LOT less here. Each of us has different needs and priorities.

1/20/2016 09:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

People are charged for advocating violence against police on a pretty regular basis. What makes it OK for a cop to advocate violence?

NAC

1/20/2016 09:08:00 AM

They are? Really?
Provide documentation, please.

1/20/2016 09:44:00 PM  
Anonymous W.G.A.S. (Who gives a shit) said...

All good points SCC, but hey, his name is O'Connor, sooo, anythings possible.

1/20/2016 09:56:00 PM  
Blogger DPR said...

There can't possibly be a large enough profit margin to make this venture worth it.

1/21/2016 06:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There can't possibly be a large enough profit margin to make this venture worth it.

1/21/2016 06:40:00 AM


That's what was said about the mining of uranium, amongst other endeavors.


Looks like a promising investment to me.







Chalkie

1/21/2016 03:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The gun store has been quashed by the alderman, who now claims he thought it would only be a range, not a gun store.
Done.
Finito.

1/22/2016 12:22:00 AM  
Blogger Happily Retired said...

Stats in an earlier post show Chiraq residents shooting with less than a 20% kill rate, so a local practice range could raise that pathetic number and help clear the gene pool faster. Not that the denizens in question would use the range. This is hypothetical, you understand - like, "I had a dream" kind of thing.

The problem is, if the store were EVER to actually open, the owner's insurance premiums would skyrocket into the stratosphere in no time flat.

1/22/2016 01:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I just bought my brand new Colt Python...for $175, most other places wanted over $200."

1/19/2016 09:04:00 AM

Regular production was discontinued in 1999.

Uh...I think you dropped a zero there on those prices.

Are you sure they didn't slip you an Airsoft gun? Better have another look.

1/25/2016 08:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"That is typical Shore Galleries mentality- insult your customers while making a buck off them."

1/19/2016 09:02:00 AM


..or not. Been exactly as you describe ever since I can remember. Anyone who walks in there deserves exactly what they're going to get.

1/27/2016 05:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

glenwood gun shop is a nice place. it is under new management and everyones pretty fcool. it only cost 15 bucks to shoot there and they have a ladies day on Tuesday where the ladies shoot for 10 bucks. they have instructors there on Tuesday nights and Thursday night. its deffinately a lot friendlier in there than it used to be. the new management is awesome. they even have frequent shooter cards

3/10/2016 05:49:00 PM  

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