FOP Wins a Big Victory
- A labor arbitrator has said the city must destroy Chicago police disciplinary records dating back decades, the latest blow to activists’ attempts to get access to misconduct files from as far back as the late 1960s.
A ruling issued Tuesday in a labor grievance case between the city and the Fraternal Order of Police states the city’s contract with its largest police union requires it to destroy most disciplinary records four years after complaints are filed.
Arbitrator George Roumell Jr. ordered the city to begin negotiations with the FOP on which records were due for destruction — files in pending lawsuits would be exempted — and said he would issue a final order in mid-April.
The usual persons are upset:
- Monday, State Rep. La Shawn Ford, D-Chicago, said he planned to introduce legislation that would require police departments across the state to keep all disciplinary files permanently, a move he said would pre-empt any union contract.
Hey Ford, why not work on trying to pass a budget? And leave local matters to local authorities?
- Craig Futterman, a University of Chicago Law School professor who has joined litigation seeking to make the decades of disciplinary records public, said Friday he was concerned that the ruling leaves just a few months before a court-ordered “bonfire” of data that could be used as the Chicago Police Department makes reforms in the aftermath of the Laquan McDonald shooting and a looming federal investigation of the department.
A "bonfire" decades in the making:
- City officials have testified they maintain more than 3,600 boxes of investigative files and several computer databases, holding police disciplinary records dating back to 1967.
Fully 60% (or more) of the Department wasn't even born in 1967. Yet these files exist in violation of numerous contractual agreements, thru assorted political administrations and not a few FOP regimes. We wonder if some sanctions might be assessed against the City at some point.
posted by SCC at 12:21 AM
94 Comments:
Non-LEO here: GOOD!
The court got it right. There is absolutely no reasonable purpose to releasing these decades of files in violation of the contract except for those looking to troll the police and play Monday Morning Quarterback.
Good win! Now let's remove residency!! We should be allowed to live where ever the hell we want!
why so many boxes. You can scan and put on a few hard drives to save the space. Or are they at a connected storage facility run by Vanecko investments and realty, rented to the city and paid for with police pension money, WTF.
Aside from the usual drivel that I hear on daily media beat downs and politicians that now refer to police officers as corrupt and the entire department as a scandal. I ask what percentage of alderman, state reps, governors, mayoral appointees and aides have gone to jail in recent years. Compare that percentage to the few police officers and ask where is the real cover-up for corruption and scandal going on. Seems Daley and a whole lot of connected political mobsters should be in jail and have gotten away with it. The fetal position is a protective position that protects the soft body tissue from being damaged. Stay Fetal my brothers and sisters. Hopefully Futterman and Ford won't be able to continue making payments on their houses.
La Shawn Ford pleaded guilty to one misdemeanor tax charge in order to get 17 federal felony bank fraud charges dropped. Apparently, he's forgotten that fact. He also has accepted campaign contributions from SEIU, AFSCME, CTU, and the Illinois Federation of Teachers. No surprise there.
Don't forget that in criminal matters someones criminal history does not apply in most cases except in sentencing.
He should have ordered the records be destroyed IMMEDIATELY.
All this 'win' accomplished was that YEARS of posturing will now begin.
Destruction of records, however, will not begin.
Question SCC .... I really don't give 2 sh!ts who the new superintendent is going to be, but since s/he will be appointed as the new chosen one--- will s/he also be wearing a body camera everywhere s/he goes? You know, like, meetings with Rham & the rest of the alder-cronies... Technically s/he will be an "honorary" Chicago police officer & per our "special" citizens of this wonderful city - they want ALL Chicago police officers to wear them at all times while on duty. {I know it'll never happen, but just for sh!ts & giggles)
It would also be interesting if Rham and the rest of his cronies carry a body camera all day long to check out what it is that they actually do & SAY (knowing that they are being recorded)... Them being public officials & all ... They can have their own show on any of their liberal channels of their choosing, or a make podcast, or a create webpage, or a YouTube channel ... It'll be called "Chicago 24/7"
Great blog by the way SCC ... Keep up to great work����
How is this a big victory ? Based on political pressure Either the courts will reverse it or the state will enact laws to prevent it from happening. FOP should sue and each officer get a settlement. At least those whose old complaints ended up as public info
FLOP Squeaks YEAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !!!!!!!
C+
Congratulations on the court victory.
The FOP and the other organizations need to make sure the records are disposed of.
I read that ABC news media come to this site to read posts. Well I am a unemployed citizen who can't stand your media fueled propaganda against the police. Your fact checking is horrendous, your reporting suxs, M HOSA is a or whatever his name is, is a drug head dumb ass who was previously arrested for purchasing HAIR/RON on the west side, and you guys just plain sux.
Yo, if yallz are reading this, ABC news, go to hell, and go phuck YO self, I'm not saying, Im just saying dawg, Im keeping it 100, y'all feel me?
not an officer, just a west side pimp.
So if the convicted Rep LaShawn Ford gets his 2qy then it should mean that employers across the state should keep disciplinary records not just the police departments. This is an employment issue. Period. They should not allow criminals to have their records expunged while we're at it.
A contract with known liars and thieves is not worth the paper it's written on.
The F O P needs to get a federal court order to have the records destroyed!.
Or the activists will scream bloody murder and get there way.
Thiess are personnel records and not for public.
If this are opened then lets open all personnel records in the hole country
so we can see the activists records to.
(not a cop). Please be safe out their!!.
Go easy on State Representative Lashawn K. Ford. He has been having a difficult time. He was unable to submit a valid nominating petition for 29th Ward Democratic Committeeman and not even Madigan's election lawyer, Michael Kasper, could retrieve the situation for him. Ford was obliged to withdraw as a candidate in light of pattern of fraud allegations.
Start the bonfire. I'll make hotdogs and smores.
THIS LaShawn Ford is coming after OUR files???
http://chicago.suntimes.com/chicago-politics/7/71/154209/state-rep-la-shawn-ford-gets-6-months-probation-for-misdemeanor
State Rep. La Shawn Ford avoided prison time Friday for misdemeanor tax fraud as he was sentenced to six months of probation, fined $1,000 and ordered to perform 100 hours of community service.
It was a remarkable reversal of fortune for a man who had faced up to 30 years in prison on federal bank fraud charges. But the more serious charges against Ford fell apart, and eventually prosecutors dropped all 17 felony counts against the West Side legislator.
I c a class-action lawsuit ready 2 go! City was out 2 destroy police officer's,
lying about files etc, all past mayor's and current must b looked at and Finance
officials, who have approved bullshit settlement's, Fuck all these assholes, the
lawsuit should go after all there personal properties and USC!
Just typical, they don't make pension contributions for 30 years and then piss on a negotiated contract. Time for the city to get off their ass and live up to what they agreed to.
This is not a major victory for the FOP. This was long overdue. What good is a collective bargaining agreement with the city, if they go years without following it? We pay into our pension every pay check without fail. The city goes decades without paying into it and the public blaims us for grredy public sector pensions. We agree to a four year limit on discipline history because 99% of complaints are from career criminals with an ax to grind. The city ignores this provision too and the FOP has let it go for decades. The Supreme Court is about to rule on mandatory payments for public sector union members and it doesnt look good for the unions. Why would we pay in?
This is good news, but there are some goofs that should not be on the job. Supervisors have to document and personnel and iAd should do their job to get these nut jobs off the payroll.
Hey Rahmy here's a suggestion "for the children of course" take all of those boxes of beefs place them on a boat set them on fire and send it down the Chicago river. I would buy tickets to see this spectacular event. You could call it Bonfire of the.....
Does this mean that the douche bags at the invisible institute have to remove their data from the web page f the complaints are over 4 years old ? If they don't will they be held accountable?
............a decision that makes sense? How did this happen?
God Bless George Roumell, a very smart and fair man, although a blind man could have seen through this stack of bullshit.
I guess my late Uncle (deceased 1995) can finally Rest in Peace knowing they can't exhume him from his grave and make him answer for some ridiculous verbal beef from 1967! Or maybe the powers that be could give him a day retroactively and then deduct it from my Aunt's very meager pension check.
Crusader LaShawn Ford. I don't know what's worse, the fact that a convicted criminal can continue to hold office or that all of sudden he got religion and will show us all the way! My guess is that a leopard can't change his spots and will get caught dirty again. How many race cards you got in your deck LaShawn!
So all those 'he called me an asshole' and 'he arrested me because I am a redhead' (real CR#) are going to get canned? Too bad. It would have been funny thinking about these misguided half wits pouring through them for years. Good that the scum bags would be able to spin their ill gotten gold from this pile of crap though.
This is a huge win for the average person that pays taxes. The City never should have kept them in violation of the contract. There really was no good reason to.
That piece of shit ford should tell his constituents to quit dis-spectin the poolices. Eliminating the need for physical corrections.
I have to give props to Dean and crew on this one. Nice job guys.
I don't see how they can possibly be covered by the contract. They are government records and need to be handled just like all other records kept by government bodies. If the record keeping law says they should be destroyed after some period of time than they should be destroyed.
Yes SCC, sanctions are in order! Before Disability Dean starts with a flurry of FOP bulletins and pats on the back, sanctions are in order. Remember, only weeks ago the city was suspending officers who had read the Zak Emmanuel "robbery" report. Time to own up to a violation which spanned over 50 years ago. Just the type of violation which the IAD RAT SQUAD is famous for. So Deano - don't go pandering to Rahmulus that he'll be ok when it comes to damages - the majority of your membership will want to see the city to be sanctioned. To all current & retired members of IAD - once a RAT always a RAT.
I cant even believe that discipline records dating back to 1967 are even being argued over. What will they do? Exhume the bodies of dead officers, and hold police board hearings?
I get that the Libtard lawyers are trying to establish a pattern of corruptive culture.
Everyone must know that over 90 percent of allegations are unfounded. The statute of Limitations takes care of the rest. Talk about beating a dead horse.
#bluelivesmatter
What's the point of the ruling and the contracts if the city can just keep cheating and face no consequences?
. . . and the penalty for the City breaching all those contracts etc. will be what ???
Wouldn't it be hilarious?
WADE INGRAM
If this is a win, how come I saw my record on a website last nite, some complaints from 15 years ago. SCC delete website from post if u want http.//cpdb.co/
State Rep. La Shawn "Can't touch this "Ford
"too legit to quit"
La Shawn, Spanish for "the" Shawn ??? fuck you, you prick. You're lucky you're not in prison.
"So all those 'he called me an asshole' and 'he arrested me because I am a redhead' (real CR#) ....."
Gingers are evil. They should be arrested.
Woohhh and here I thought they were gonna find Al Capones co conspirators and those complaints!
Good now maybe we can focus on asking ACLU whats going on with all the shootings and homicides in Chicago which by the way the Police are not responsible for? And media trolls scrolling around here, how about reporting and finding more videos of non police involved shootings in the city of Chiraq, such as the ones from the west and southside of Chicago, now dont you all trip over yourselves to cover this?
I wish someone non biased woild look up records of corrupted Aldermans....
Media will only come here and pick and choose what they want to write about...hey jack@sses heres a story go and ask Juvy courts why so many hundreds of kids are thrown back to the wolves on the streets without being rehabilitated or been held accountable for longer periods of time. Do the math and look at why teen violence is so high, u fix the court systems, u fix the violence on the streets of Chicago. Kids are stacking up charges like mega blocks, however, check the conviction rates and there proper rehabbing, its ridiculous. It's like pulling teeth! And this is just Juvy courts, were not even mentioning 26cal or other courts....
Aldermans want more body cameras on the Police well they should lead by example and wear them too!
Sue the fuck out of the City if they release any records that should have been destroyed, initiate an ARDC complaint against any attorney at Rahm's Law Dept who makes efforts to thwart our bargained for rights.
Fop has been in a roll lately first the sergeants class now this
The only thing we could think of for them wanting records
records going back that far was to perhaps look for same
last names, to make some kind of tenuous connection and
"establish" a finding that familial ties foster the "corrupt and
brutal" nature of the "Warrior Policeman" culture that they
claim is racist and insensitive to the culture of oppressed
"urban" blacks and other protected democratic constituencies...
Once they can establish and propagandize CPD as a "closed shop,"
we would see much more mandated "Make This Right" (passage
of laws, City Hall strategically ceding more ability to interfere/dictate
policy/have toxic influence over Police operational procedure etc.)
in order to "fix" CPD.
At this time, in this nation...
All the manly things and institutions are under
direct attack by the callow, craven, feckless
and shrill, deeply afflicted, revenge seeking
squat-to-pee contingent of those seeking to
pull down American society and every honorable
institution therein because not everybody can
get to participate within those institutions and
reap the same benefits, rewards and recognition...
We look around and we see a curious coalescing
of alliances seeking to affect "fundamental change"
here at ground level since "Him Self" has seemingly
been checked at the national level somewhat.
Who would have figured "change" was exclusive
of change for the better and for the overall good?
From the top down...
These strange creatures who apparently
hate this nation and it's honored institutions
so much that they're sparing no expense to
destroy it from within.
Who are they?
Are they not Sons of honorable Fathers?
Have any of them ever broken a sweat
to put bread on the table?
Have any of them ever had to fight for/defend/protect
anything or any upright ideal?
>Sideways glance at "Him Self," Rahm (& brothers), Axelrod, Gruber,
and the host of others in the ghastly Trotskyite-Alinskyite/Progressive
& Catered-To Constituency Alliance<
You know...
Just pointing to the jokers who really ARE the PROBLEM.
Much more so than The Police could ever be.
As it is, Policemen aren't interested in sticking it
in society's ear.
But as this madness continues and there are cheers
about Policemen and the very ideal of actual Policing
being "finally" driven into a corner based solely on an
artfully crafted, corrosive and divisive false narrative?
The Policeman, for all of his flaws both real and imagined,
is not the simple creature so many imagine (actually want)
him to be.
He will adjust and adapt perfectly...
Much to the chagrine of those howling loudest
for "something" to be done.
Maybe that ability is the irritating hair across many a
Progressive (the ones clumsily orchestrating
this "fixing" of The Police) ass...
You see...
They "read" a lot about what Policemen are
allegedly are and they may have seen a
Policeman or three in passing and maybe
even up close and yet for all the supposed
smarts and savvy these poor, pale and frail
creatures allegedly posess, The Policeman
always has and will always be an enigma
to them and anathema to what they say
they stand for.
Oh yeah...
During our (short) visitation to a "nicer" unit
of assignment, (Well, it was an adjustment
hearing the King's English as a native tongue)
we found that the allegedly more enlightened
"silent majority" are skittish about actual
unscripted, unfiltered dialog pertaining to how
safe they actually aren't in this city...
"You're scary and you're scaring US!
Please stop and go away."
What say you now?
Police like you have no friends...
WBBM Radio -- "All LaQuan, All The Time" -- now reporting a new list of "demands" from none other than Rev. JJ Sr.
"{Police] stop shooting people in the back."
Yo! #BlackLivesMeaningless!
How about you stop shooting each other in the back, the front, the side, the head, the foot...
How about you stop banging off guns sideways at everything around you so that little kids asleep in bed catch a slug through the house wall and die?
How about you take a good look in the mirror? I know. "Poor fund of information," not possessed of insight or the slightest concern for others. Slippety-sliding down the off side of The Bell Curve -- WHOO! -- and exit stage left to nearest someone-else's-half-mil free trauma center/CCJ/IDOC/County Morgue or the estimable A.R. Leak and I can only pray you don't take too many decent citizens with you.
Wearin' me out, man. I mean it.
Gotta go. Forms to fill out.
Oh. Who runs ACLU, exactly? Just make them next Supt. and then play theme song from movie "Exodus" and watch the fun. ILDOT -- all convertible lanes to be switched to "outbound" and left that way.
"I can't even believe that discipline records dating back to 1967 are even being argued over. What will they do? Exhume the bodies of dead officers, and hold police board hearings?"
1/16/2016 10:17:00 AM
Gotta get those government grants for these "Justice Projects." Be pulling old coppers out of nursing homes at age 97 and "determining if they are fit to stand trial," maybe first question is "Can you tell us your name?" Ample precedent in another part of the world..
"Everyone must know that over 90 percent of allegations are unfounded."
1/16/2016 10:17:00 AM
Go through some of what I've seen already, entire watch gets gigged in massive complaint because one officer "did not address subj. using proper respect" or something. It is money, money, money, though, a fine living once you get adequate funding to grow pale and old under fluorescent lighting, digging through bales, whole skids of this ancient s__t.
Just keep your back turned firmly on all that shooting and motherf__ing and squealing car tires and breaking glass and pitbulls loudly trying to swallow their own chains going on behind you, and keep your gaze firmly fixed on The Police instead. Up and down with a big magnifying glass. Sideburns neat? Brass polished?
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"Bonfire?"
S__t. McCarthy still locked alone in his old office doing -- something?
Inquiring minds want to know.
The only problem is will the "Lefty Liberals" comply with a Court Order!
Liberals tend to NOT follow the law when they feel it is against them or their agenda!
That is why City of Chicago, never done it when they were told to and had to be taken to court in the first damn place!
All I can say is, I hope Governor Rauner BUSTS the teachers union!
What a piece of garbage operation they are working against the Police, with under cover help from the "Black Lives Matter" terrorists group!
Rep. Ford seems to be attempting to write & introduce legislation on several subjects lately. Has anybody else noticed that
this individual most likely can't even spell his own name. Do you think that he is really the source of the new legislation. Might some other person be writing it for him. That is the real enemy to be watching. Ford hasn't the brains to come in out of the rain. Who is the real author and sponsor. Ford has to place his name on this as payment for a very questionable light sentence and being able to keep his spot in the legislature.
Ok The City Violated the Contract, A Lawful Binding Agreement.....My name along with hundreds of other Officer's was made public in violation of the Lawful Binding Agreement. I want restitution especially since every CR I was given was concluded Unfounded or Exonerated. FOP what say ye to a class action lawsuit?!
FOP needs to use this as a bargaining chip in the next negotiations. The city OBVIOUSLY disregards contractual obligations. How can they bargain in good faith with this?
It's actually not a victory, it's treading water and fighting off the flood of hatred towards CPD.
Not A Cop but the mayor just found his new Superintendent. With a statement like this even Rahm couldn't of thought of this.
So we now need some detectives to fly to California to arrest and extradite Zuckerberg.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/15/chicago-top-cop-blames-facebook-for-shootings-up-over-200-since-last-year/
Let's delve into this a criminal lashawn ford is now going after police and idiots are helping this clown? the sate of elected in this state is really pathetic, how did ford get his what 18 counts reduced to misdemeanor and back in office? Could he be the talking canary? Who is his "sponsor?"
I'll believe it when I see it. Word has been out that Rahm is tossing hush money at the lawyers so he'll keep releasing info on us as long as he can to save his political future.
The Usual Suspects are not subject to disclosure of their past indiscretions, but YOU are.
Mayor already gave up just about everything pertaining to every sworn member long ago, and like his and Hillarys emails, destroying a record doesn't mean it's gone forever.
Preventative measures for the future would be DONT DO ANYTHING MORE than writing your report and make your contact with the caller as brief, non-confrontational and professional as possible, if at all.
19-P as much and whenever you can.
Avoid the nonsense & Drive safely.
Victory?.... lol
Sounds to me like the city is trying to clean up after themselves before th Department of Justice comes in. Victory.... SCC, I am a big fan but this actually surprises me! FLOP never "wins" against any "battle" with the city! They win whatever is in agreement with the city prior to any arbitration or ruling. They are in this business to make money not work for us! Again, good one!
. . . and the penalty for the City breaching all those contracts etc. will be what ???
1/16/2016 11:06:00 AM
. . . no more activity requirements for VRI !!!
Now if they can just win the acting desk Sgt. grievance.
The city owes me about 4 grand.
Arbitrator George Roumell Jr. ordered the city to begin negotiations with the FOP on which records were due for destruction — files in pending lawsuits would be exempted — and said he would issue a final order in mid-April.
So they will hang on to some recent records until the settlement/dismissal. Until then, STAY FETAL!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-black-youth-project-protest-20160116-story.html
How can anarchist shut down our credit union that is a federally insured institution and not be arrested come on John step up and you want to be superintendent a leader?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-black-youth-project-protest-20160116-story.html
+++The Supreme Court is about to rule on mandatory payments for public sector union members and it doesnt look good for the unions. Why would we pay in?+++
??????
You are an IDIOT plain and simple. Who in the F@uck would work with you? You want to work w/o legal defense? Yea go buy some shit the teamsters sell and see who good it is when you have to go thru what the poor guy from 8 is going thru now.
poor Lashawn ford, he has already swayed the new alderman of the 29th ward, Chris Zagliffia or similar name, anyways a CPD Sgt. to talk shit about police officers, I really hate it when a politician becomes the enemy of the ranks he once hailed from and begins to talk crap about how bad police are and that they pick on black folks. just ask anybody out on the streets who gives them a better shake and they will say they got better breaks from the white officers, black officers put their feet up the ass of black folks because they are an embarrassment to the black officers. I'm so happy that I'm gone from this job because anyonewho does anything other then the bare minimum is a fool, especially when you mayor is on TV saying that the police dept. is abusive towards the minority community, little weasel trying to save his own ASS!!!!!!
Thank God I am retired!
Last of The Dick's from A-6 said...
Rep. Ford seems to be attempting to write & introduce legislation on several subjects lately. Has anybody else noticed that
this individual most likely can't even spell his own name. Do you think that he is really the source of the new legislation. Might some other person be writing it for him. That is the real enemy to be watching. Ford hasn't the brains to come in out of the rain. Who is the real author and sponsor. Ford has to place his name on this as payment for a very questionable light sentence and being able to keep his spot in the legislature.
1/16/2016 03:52:00 PM
Just google Rep Ford. He should be in prison right now. He was indicted on 19 felony counts a year ago and was able to work-out a plea deal to plead guilty to 1 miss count and was mysteriously reelected...only in Chicago!
Anonymous said...
Media will only come here and pick and choose what they want to write about...hey jack@sses heres a story go and ask Juvy courts why so many hundreds of kids are thrown back to the wolves on the streets without being rehabilitated or been held accountable for longer periods of time. Do the math and look at why teen violence is so high, u fix the court systems, u fix the violence on the streets of Chicago. Kids are stacking up charges like mega blocks, however, check the conviction rates and there proper rehabbing, its ridiculous. It's like pulling teeth! And this is just Juvy courts, were not even mentioning 26cal or other courts....
1/16/2016 01:34:00 PM
You forgot to mention how Crook County changed the point system recently regarding holding Juveniles. This point system is different then what every other county in the state uses. Juvenile offenders who would have been detained a couple of months ago are sent home. This includes those who already are on electronic monitoring. If a member of my family was a victim of a crime committed by a juvenile who should have been detained under the old point system I would sue the $hit out of Cook County, Toni Prekwinkle and Tom Dart.
The DOJ has already said that the department can't destroy anything...Day late and a dollar short...as usual FLOP
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Good win! Now let's remove residency!! We should be allowed to live where ever the hell we want!
1/16/2016 12:35:00 AM
You have been crying about this since this blog started. You are probably close to retirement or disability from stressing over this. Much more important things to worry about these days. You bought the ticket. Now ride.
If these files are already in the grubby hands of those "journalists" and the ALCU it will be like the lawyers say trying to put toothpaste back in the tube.
The best we could hope for is that hey would be disallowed in any action and future files would be promptly destroyed.
But probably there would be moles in IAD or IPRA keeping their own personal set of files. Waiting for the right case or right opportunity to use them for the right price.
Complains about the media blackout.....all the while blacks out *certain* comments.......... a-holes with agendas
So when is fop suing for records released that dated back farther than contract allows. I was informed my records released to suntitmes.
How can anarchist shut down our credit union that is a federally insured institution and not be arrested come on John step up and you want to be superintendent a leader?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-black-youth-project-protest-20160116-story.html
They didn't shut shit down. Officers still came in through the back. Just as the boys got the get go to arrest, these little pussy left.
ANY officer with a Facebook page is a fool.
May be that strike contractual section can be forgotten too?
RAHM will drag his feet so the REV-runs- and carpetbagger lawyers get a chance at all that tasty info.
The City moves at light speed for taser and body-cams but contractual matter well not so much.
I am taking a wild guess her and the ass hate exempt at HQ in charge of file probably has not even put a plan in place to destroy the files.
Anyone know who that is?
Don't be surprised if the FED come in and make an excuse to keep the files leaving RAHM-bellina in the clear.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is not a major victory for the FOP. This was long overdue. What good is a collective bargaining agreement with the city, if they go years without following it? We pay into our pension every pay check without fail. The city goes decades without paying into it and the public blaims us for grredy public sector pensions. We agree to a four year limit on discipline history because 99% of complaints are from career criminals with an ax to grind. The city ignores this provision too and the FOP has let it go for decades. The Supreme Court is about to rule on mandatory payments for public sector union members and it doesnt look good for the unions. Why would we pay in?
1/16/2016 08:30:00 AM
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Obviously you are one of the fools that believe what is heard around the water fountain. The city has not missed any payments into the fund. If you can read you can look it up on the Pension Board's website. That is not the problem with the pension. The problem is much more basic than that.
820 ILCS 40/0.01-13
Personnel Record Review Act. Or go to Illinois Department of Labor Laws & Rules page.
See 820 40/7 in particular regarding restriction on employer on releasing disciplinary records. File complaints with the Illinois Department of Labor. The form is on their website.
Anonymous said...
How can anarchist shut down our credit union that is a federally insured institution and not be arrested come on John step up and you want to be superintendent a leader?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-black-youth-project-protest-20160116-story.html
1/16/2016 11:12:00 PM
666 666 666
No worries for exempts! They just have their drivers do their banking on week days.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is not a major victory for the FOP. This was long overdue. What good is a collective bargaining agreement with the city, if they go years without following it? We pay into our pension every pay check without fail. The city goes decades without paying into it and the public blaims us for grredy public sector pensions. We agree to a four year limit on discipline history because 99% of complaints are from career criminals with an ax to grind. The city ignores this provision too and the FOP has let it go for decades. The Supreme Court is about to rule on mandatory payments for public sector union members and it doesnt look good for the unions. Why would we pay in?
1/16/2016 08:30:00 AM
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You are right. Why did Donahue, Sheilds, and Dougherty all let slide by?
The Key Point being ignored in all of this is the simple word: CONTRACT. We are not talking here about some bullshit handshake as in the days of King Richard I. We are talking a Contractual Agreement, being that complaints that were Unfounded or Not Sustained would be removed from the record. To resurrect those records which in essence should not exist is a blatant breech of Contract and creates an atmosphere of ABSOLUTE DISTRUST. Teachers, Firefighters and anyone who plans to enter into contractual agreements with the City of Chicago, please take note. THE CITY UNDER TINY DANCER HAS NO CREDIBILITY! TO SAVE HIS POLITICAL ASS HE WILL VIOLATE CONTRACTS AND ANY OTHER TRUST YOU MAY BE FOOLISH ENOUGH TO GIVE HIM. Baby"G"
Good win! Now let's remove residency!! We should be allowed to live where ever the hell we want!
1/16/2016 12:35:00 AM
I agree 100%. Fop has their chance now with Rham pulling his box under the stairs residency requirement. This should be issue #2! next to pensions
So a criminal, Ford, is calling for release of police records?
The irony hits you like a nine pound hammer.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
All I can say is, I hope Governor Rauner BUSTS the teachers union!
What a piece of garbage operation they are working against the Police, with under cover help from the "Black Lives Matter" terrorists group!
Don't forget, this is the teachers union that marched against us with BLM.
Chicago media.....
We can't understand, "what is causing the uptick in crime"?
Stay Fetal and we will get our point across.
Who's managing the records room? Is it the cops? Get your Lodge brothers, and get those records gone before they pass some half-assed law. Leave the ones involved in lawsuits alone so you don't get a Judge pissed off at you - but take the rest, put it in a truck, and go to the south side with them and BURN THEM TO A CRISP. After it's done, do it again for good measure.
Once they're gone, they can pass whatever law they want, but it's essentially useless.
If your contract says something - then it's up to you as a party to the contract to ENFORCE THE CONTRACT.
Geezus, what the hell happened to the CPD I grew up with - grow a set and handle this.
Hey State Rep LaShawn Ford...clean up your own dirt before you fling it on somebody else. You are a dirty corrupt west side political hack that caught a big break. You should be prison bound. Never forget that.
Credential Details
Illinois Department of Financial and Professional Regulation
Contact
Name City/State/Zip DBA/AKA
LA SHAWN K FORD Chicago, IL 60644-5350
Contact Information
License
License Number Description Status First Effective Date Effective Date Expiration Date Sponsor Ever Disciplined
471010759 Licensed Real Estate Managing Broker ACTIVE 05/02/2012 05/01/2015 04/30/2017 Ford Desired Real Estate LLC Y
License Information
Other Licenses
License Number Description Status First Effective Date Effective Date Expiration Date Ever Disciplined
476362010 Licensed Real Estate Salesperson CANCELLED 05/28/1997 05/28/1997 04/30/2001 N
475103047 Licensed Real Estate Broker CANCELLED 08/17/1999 05/28/2010 04/30/2012 N
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Disciplinary Actions
Case Number License Number Action Discipline Start Date Discipline End Date Reason for Action
2012012335 471010759 Reprimand 06/02/2015 after being convicted for underpaying his 2007 income tax.
Its kinda fun to read some of the old complaints.
One of the guys in my district was accused of shooting a guy in the head with a star wars laser, another with eating drivers licenses!
All I know is that the unit rep in area south pushed and challenged and even filed complaints with the labor board, Donahue Dougherty Aguilar all fought him. Glad to see he was right on!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So a criminal, Ford, is calling for release of police records?
The irony hits you like a nine pound hammer.
1/17/2016 11:26:00 AM
There's no irony.
This is payback, pure and simple.
Taking a whack at what he sees as part of the institution that caused him pain.
Obviously you are one of the fools that believe what is heard around the water fountain. The city has not missed any payments into the fund. If you can read you can look it up on the Pension Board's website. That is not the problem with the pension. The problem is much more basic than that.
Please explain the basic ?
And folks are still going down on stops...
Perfect example of what you get when you elect assholes...what a waste of air
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