This About Covers It
From the comments, a very good summation of what we're facing today:
- ACLU's point of view:
You stop 10 people in a day. One of them has a gun and you arrest that person and they are charge and prosecuted accordingly..... You do 10 isr's and and arrest report with a gun recovery, taking a dangerous armed criminal off the street.... Nice job officer!!!
ACLU says - yes you took an armed criminal off the street - but at what cost? You violated the rights of 9 people before you eventually found one with a gun. 90% of your stops are in the interest of civil rights violations. Your "hunches" suck and cannot be trusted.
Cops response: actually some of those that I stopped likely were selling drug and had them in their mouth or their crotch, places I can't recover them. My "reasonable articulable suspicion" does not suck, I'm just trying to do the best job I can. And I did get an armed felon off the street, possibly preventing a shooting.
ACLU: No officer, your "hunches" suck. You are a civil rights violator and a racist. Await the lawsuit I am about to file. Please list your assets accordingly.
Exactly.
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posted by SCC at 12:33 AM
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BINGO
In other words--- stop doing dumb shit... Do dumb shit, get sued and thrown under a bus--- I clearly understand this
STAY FETAL
The new battle cry of Chicago Police. And yes it's a battle cry because there is a war on police.
I'm guessing the ACLU may also represent the bad guy with the gun in criminal court arguing that the officer had a pattern of unwarranted stops and was on a "witch hunt" and question the credibility of the officer and the reason for stopping their now client. The cook county court system was always very forgiving to criminals and probably even more so now. Keep in mind the FEDS are also investigating the CPD. Good times.
Stay F E T A L..
It is very important that a person of colors civil rights never ever be violated in even a teeny tiny way. It's the law of the PC.
When it comes to stops and having "reasonable suspicion " the area the ACLU, media, activists, law firms, CPD, IPRA, FEDS etc. will be closely scrutinizing is the articulation of "crime about to be commited." We better be on point with this. This is the grey area they're targeting. Stopping criminals in the "process of committing a crime or after commiting a crime" is the safe way and no need to be concerned with articulating it. Our training, street knowledge, experience and hunches are of little value now.
No chase car and foot
actually who cares let em kill each other Let em sell drugs Go home every night and get your pension
This is what the untrained ACLU eye sees:
A 42yrd old black man, dressed shoddily because he is poor, walking down the street with a back pack in a "decent" residential neighborhood at 10am. He is constantly looking around because he is trying to remain safe, and he is just trying to get to work.
What a good Policeman sees:
A 42yr old drug addict (nobody cares what race) walking in an area he doesn't live in. The constant rubbernecking is because two things. First, he is looking for the Po-Po. Second he is looking for cars parked in driveways, mail boxes full, and newspapers piled up on the front porch.
The ACLU sees the Officer stopping this man because of years of ingrained racism and he likes to harass people especially minorities.
The Policeman stops this guy because in his experience, (time of day, offenders appearance, backpack etc) this guy is probably a burglar who is on the prowl. The Officer runs dudes name and low and behold, 5 priors for burglary. Dude has no reason why he is in the area and doesn't have an answer where he is going to. The Officer opens his backpack, and there is a screwdriver and pillowcase inside. The Policeman sends him on his way with a stern warning, "I know what you are up to, and I better not see you out here again today."
The loser: The Officer violated his civil rights because your knowledge is no longer believable. You illegally detained him and illegally searched his backpack. Plus you had no reason to run his background.
Not only does the Officer lose, the neighborhood loses too.
The winner: The criminal
Good citizens of Chicago , arm up and train up . It could not be any clearer , you are on your own .
We're in a no win situation with those ISR's.
My advice is simply don't do them.
Stay fetal my friends.
FROM THE ACLU'S ANNUAL REPORT 2015:
"Part II: Bringing an End to Stop and Frisk
Imagine just walking down the street, on your way to the store, to the dry cleaners or to visit a friend. Suddenly, you are approached by police, who surround you, ask your name, push you up against a wall and search you – going through your pockets and perhaps even putting their hands inside your clothing.
This is not a dystopian nightmare of some security state – it is the reality of life on Chicago streets for youth on the South and West sides in the City.
The ACLU is committed to fighting back and making certain that the practice of stop and frisk is utilized in a constitutional way that does not drive a further divide between the police and the communities they serve.
In March 2014, the ACLU of Illinois issued an eye-opening report that revealed the breadth and discriminatory edge of stop and frisk policies in the City. The report revealed, among other things, that during the summer months of 2013, Chicago Police Department (CPD) conducted stops of more than 250,000 residents – with not a single one of those stops resulting in an arrest. Many of these stops were conducted on the same individual repeatedly.
The data released by the ACLU also finds that police were far more likely to stop African Americans than other residents of Chicago. Although African Americans represent less than one-third of the City’s population, they comprised more than three-quarters of those stopped by police. The discriminatory stops of African Americans were even worse in predominantly white neighborhoods.
The report threatened ACLU litigation, created an opportunity for negotiations with the City of Chicago to reform the discriminatory police practice of stopping pedestrians on city streets. Those productive discussions led in August 2015 to a landmark agreement between the City and the ACLU, designed to provide more transparency and more oversight.
The keystone of the agreement is the appointment of an independent consultant, former federal magistrate judge Arlander Keys, to review the policies and practices used by Chicago police and the impact of those policies and practices. Judge Keys has access to all data around pedestrian stops, including not just the numbers of stops but a written narrative of the reasons for the stop, required to be provided after each stop to determine if the stop was lawful. Based on this review, Judge Keys and consultants he has retained will be able to make corrective recommendations to the City to improve CPD’s practices."
Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, and possible criminals have civil rights that must not be violated. Especially minorities of all types.
These days, I rather not search the ten dudes standing on the street corner even if one has a gun on him. When that guy who has a gun goes and robs a liquor store and then gets shot in the balls or worse in the process of robbery. That is sweet justice these days and a 19-paul from me! Hey, ACLU assholes, you reap what you sow!
When a terrorist occurs here blame the ACLU.
My new response to folks will be. Hey don't blame me it's what the ACLU wants. Sorry but the ACLU says I can't. I wouldn't want to violate anyone's rights that might upset the ACLU. Ask the ACLU why we can't stop these thugs. ACLU warned they will come after us. ACLU ACLU ACLU.
Oh and here's your report. Hope you feel better soon!
Just wait until the violence spills over to the laps of the monied members of the ACLU.
And they wonder why stops and numbers are down. They have cuffed the police on their actions.
This is why the chaos leading to societal collapse is going to happen. Good conservative people will rise up against the progressive, Rastafarian, ISIS, illegal alien (I call them burglars to America), LINK card, asthma claiming, 5 state voter registration thugs (don't get me started on their multi state residency's) that are amped up because their Kenyan pimp walks all over the corporate greed RINO's.
I can't de-Escalate any more. My three movie watching per tour coworker has been promoted to sergeant, another one that lost the city 3 million bucks is now sergeant, and another one was..... You get the point, I have dozens of other examples.
Stay Fetal. Stay Smart. Stay Safe.
This just makes our job easier, but makes it much tougher for honest citizens who really need the police, I feel sorry for innocent blacks who are being led like sheep to the slaughterhouse by mind numbing reverends, who are spouting anti-police venomous poison! Do you actually think a black police boss will change the mindsets of thugs and make police do their jobs "old school" and lose their homes,freedom,family and pensions? Change starts at 1600 Pennsylvania ave the White House and like a fish stinking from the head down it would take time to turn it around! Not a racist but a realist if you are hoping for the "great black hope"in a black police superintendent to quote the great David Bowie RIP "changes they stay the same, time won't change me, and I can't change time!" #bluelivesmatterforever
The ACLU is an instrument, and sometimes enforcer, of the democratic party. It is also ultra liberal.
ACLU should patrol the streets and protect victims for once
Stop working already. What do you not understand? They are here to screw you and have absolutely no other goal. This communist group the ACLU is no friend of the police.
ACLU founder Roger Baldwin stated:
"I am for socialism, disarmament, and, ultimately, for abolishing the state itself... I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."
Do you believe this has changed? Do you know where you work? Chicago gave birth to the communist party in the US.
Well, if the person whom you stop is a law abiding citizen with two brain cells to rub together, once he lawfully IDs himself, you're not going to get the time of day from him, since utterly no conceivable benefit could come [to him] from talking to you.
Crossing over to the FD was the best move I ever made. Sorry, guys and gals, these conditions suck. Keep your heads up, stay strong.
ACLU= American Criminal Layers Union
Many people (and folk) don't know that one of the founding Lawyers of the ACLU, Roger Baldwin, was a Communist (no joke). The purpose and goal of the ACLU -- in spite of all the high and mighty bullshit spewed about fighting for constitutional rights of the 'downtrodden' -- was to use the U.S. Constitution against America.
It got to the point with the ACLU and its *civil rights lawsuits* -- which had more to do with tearing down the fabric of America and its traditions than any overt 'civil rights violations' -- that it eventually led to Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson's now famous quote: "The constitution is not a suicide pact."
That's the basics on the ACLU. Founded by commies and today they're a bunch of bunch of anti-American left-wing extremist lawyers. And if you check the bios on its members you will find that most of them are also members of the *National Lawyers Guild* -- a communist front group founded to counter the American Bar Association and the Federalist Society.
As such, you can bet the rent that anything the ACLU does has zero to do with what's best for the USA.
ps {Most folks (and people) also don't know that in the early 1900's communism had a fairly big following not only in Europe but right here in the USA too -- it just wasn't from the 1930's to the 1950's. The FBI website has a section with the FBI Files on all the famous Americans who were in the communist party or 'fellow travelers'}
All the liberals want at the end of the day is to say white people commit crime just as much as non whites.
It's had to imagine a need for a stop in Highland Park. Isn't that what this boils down to? Ignorance?
Not an L.E.O., but from a long line of police and military family. Having read this, hearing about the Taser b.s. and training officers to be more like the U.K.'s "bobbys", it is of my opinion that the ACLU will only be happy when tose that have sworn to protect and serve are eliminated, or so under powered that you can no longer protect. My G_d, what is happening to this country. Obummer is responsible for a lot of this, and you know what the ACLU can do. Rahm too.
Please be on your toes out on tour, you do not want to have to explain to your kids that they are loosing the xbox to some jag for having done a job that is equivalent to walking a tight rope that has no end.
My family and I salute you and appreciate what you do for us. Be safe, go home to those that love you and know some people in this country still support you. If someone could post a CPD charity site I will contribute because CPD needs help and this is some bullshit...
1:59 AM......Well put. Neighborhood loses, truly sad times.
PC is just Fascism pretending to have manners.
Sorry, but hunches are not PC or RS. cant lawfully stop some creep for ~just~ walking down an alley behind a girl. If he is muttering that he about to rape this b-, then yes. Walking down an ally is not a crime.
"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Good citizens of Chicago , arm up and train up . It could not be any clearer , you are on your own .
1/15/2016 02:03:00 AM"
Best advice I've seen here.
If you have a firearm, get another. Get more ammo than you think you'd ever use. Get high cap mags and an AR before Hillary prohibits it.
get training.
OFF topic:
Ran across this When the department wants to investigate they will move heaven and hell. I only wish The city would investigate garage burglaries like this! Hell i wish the printer worked in the AREA.
Beware of writing tickets!!!
http://www.cityofchicago.org/content/dam/city/depts/cpb/PoliceDiscipline/14PB2878.pdf
Anonymous said...
Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, and possible criminals have civil rights that must not be violated. Especially minorities of all types.
And law abiding citizens have the right to be free of crime and not victimized from the piece of shit criminals your defending, more than likely your family members or relatives....it's called reasonable suspicion NOT probable cause or guilty AFTER being charged with a crime you stupid , liberal piece of shit!
Aclu=commies and Marxists, they also support and defend child pornographers, they are literAlly in bed with kiddie porn criminals, these degenerates are not valid.
No problem, I don't do anything anymore, you finally fixed us. I will collect my check for doing nothing. No sweat, make the din do's happy. Do you even fetal? Got fetal? Lol.
750-1000 homicides this year, Mark my words...but hey, you fixed the police, thanks aclu,media,commies,raccoon eyes,Obummer,crooked alderman,ghetto black caucus,liberals and sackless politicians. Oh wait, you doubled the crime and homicide rate...ah, nobody cares about that , it was black on black crime, who cares, black lives DONT really matter. YOU FIXED THE EVIL, BAD POLICE, enjoy, Next....
++++ 1/15/2016 07:43:00 AM || Anonymous said... ++++
>>>>> 'ACLU founder Roger Baldwin stated:
"I am for socialism, disarmament, and, ultimately, for abolishing the state itself... I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal." <<<<<
Thank You.
Glad I'm not the only one that knows what the ACLU is ***REALLY*** about and what its asshole commie founder Roger Baldwin was up to.
Take care :-)
I like... No ACLU, you suck, your ass doesn't even know the fucking neighborhoods were in, you sit in your warm cozy office and figure a way to unravel safety. Take your sorry ass out there and walk down that alley.... No? didn't think so. Go back to Disneyworld and ride a unicorn
stop no one unless a citizen points out the person with gun , if you do not see gun in waist band keep on driving
it will not be far off when citizens of Chicago will have ccw permits and stop crimes before they become victims , crime will go down
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is what the untrained ACLU eye sees:
A 42yrd old black man, dressed shoddily because he is poor, walking down the street with a back pack in a "decent" residential neighborhood at 10am. He is constantly looking around because he is trying to remain safe, and he is just trying to get to work.
What a good Policeman sees:
A 42yr old drug addict (nobody cares what race) walking in an area he doesn't live in. The constant rubbernecking is because two things. First, he is looking for the Po-Po. Second he is looking for cars parked in driveways, mail boxes full, and newspapers piled up on the front porch.
The ACLU sees the Officer stopping this man because of years of ingrained racism and he likes to harass people especially minorities.
The Policeman stops this guy because in his experience, (time of day, offenders appearance, backpack etc) this guy is probably a burglar who is on the prowl. The Officer runs dudes name and low and behold, 5 priors for burglary. Dude has no reason why he is in the area and doesn't have an answer where he is going to. The Officer opens his backpack, and there is a screwdriver and pillowcase inside. The Policeman sends him on his way with a stern warning, "I know what you are up to, and I better not see you out here again today."
The loser: The Officer violated his civil rights because your knowledge is no longer believable. You illegally detained him and illegally searched his backpack. Plus you had no reason to run his background.
Not only does the Officer lose, the neighborhood loses too.
The winner: The criminal
1/15/2016 01:59:00 AM
Very well said !
Harvey grossman and the aclu should stick to litigating Menorah displays out of the public squares during the holidays on behalf of the atheists. The aclu has two pillars which they are based: 1) The elimination of religion to be replaced by state run belief systems 2) The elimination of private property rights with all properties to be transferred to control by the state
The aclu and so called elected representative stand up for the criminal element’s freedom so they may be at large terrorizing the decent citizens through violent acts and property crimes.
Here is a different take. The good citizens get fed up with the daily criminal acts on display in their communities with the constant drumbeat of higher confiscatory taxes with no relief in sight, they then elect to move to greener pastures. This would be a certain lock of blue electoral votes for the land of that republican Lincoln. California and Illinois would create a virtual lock for a certain donkey based party. All opposition would have to climb a mountain of obstacles to win the top office. With all power being concentrated in a few in D.C., this is a long term strategy.
Remember the current top office holder was sold to voters as a Constitutional scholar from a top school. In a recent speech on gun control, this constitutional scholar referred to the U.S. Constitution as a piece of paper. Remember he could not get a representative body to achieve his schemes or dreams. Instead, he uses the telephone and a pen to achieve his lefty not lofty goals. Anarchy would satisfy both the aclu and a certain political party’s goals and objectives. This strategy will permanently change the political landscape.
Anonymous said...
No chase car and foot
1/15/2016 01:22:00 AM
No mix jameson and prozac
Just listening to Rush Limbaugh this afternoon, talking about democratic controlled cities are at war with the police.
So true, it is part of their plan to destroy our country. Joe Mc Carthy had it right in trying to expose the communists. We need a real conservative movement to take over the GOP, or start a third party. Then all of the leftists need to be rooted out of our government, and trials held with sentences carried out swiftly. Then they should target those in the complicit media, and in the entertainment industry.
Who is funding the ALCU?
Well, if the person whom you stop is a law abiding citizen with two brain cells to rub together, once he lawfully IDs himself, you're not going to get the time of day from him, since utterly no conceivable benefit could come [to him] from talking to you.
1/15/2016 07:48:00 AM
Hello Troll, you are talking about the situation that would never happen since the citizen is law abiding then why would he get stopped by police in the first place ? He would not unless he was committing, about to commit or just committed a crime... then he aint so law abiding.
Liberalism is a mental disease . Michael Savage. Stay Fetal , Chalkie
Fighting crime is not a "war", it is a game. The prosecutors, defense attorneys, judges and politicians, as well as the police officers, are all players in the game. The criminals make up one team in the game. Other teams are the families, communities, schools, churches and the media. Recently, a 16-year-old was charged with shooting three people, two of the victims died. This same kid was also on probation for an illegal firearm. The police and the prosecutors did their part in the game by arresting and convicting the thug. But the judge failed his part by giving the kid probation. We should also look at the kid's family: maybe some muckraker could look into this kid's background and see how his family failed to raise him properly for our society. Or how about his pastor and community failed by not intervening when he began to show his anti-social behaviors. Can we blame the schools, if this kid did not even go to school?
But as all the other players in the game start blaming the police for all the wrongs in the game, can you blame the police if they just want to sit out a quarter or two? Or maybe the coach put the police on the bench to see how the other players do without the police playing?
For the first time in a while, I am glad to be benched. Sometimes you are just too tired and fed up to play anymore, when everyone blames you as the game is being lost. Let someone else play, and let's see how they do. The other teams challenge your enthusiasm, they challenge your laziness, they challenge if you go left, they challenge if you go right. You follow the rules and you lose. If there is the slightest notion that you broke a rule, you are hung. If you win too much, it's not fair. You just can't win.
So let's let the other teams play up front for awhile.
The only team that doesn't have to play by any rules are the criminals.
1/14/2016 02:19:00 AM
Well said!
Im thinking by summer, when the homicide rate is at 500, somebody with an ounce of brains (I hope there's one left) will propose going back to the hand held contact card and encourage street stops again. Yes, the ACLU will cry, and probably sue, but common sense has to prevail. Maybe Im being too optimistic, but the case can be made that in order to stop crime, we have to go back to the old way....."because thats the way we always did it". Sometimes, "because thats the way we always did it"....WORKS!!!!
Old retired guy
All the liberals want at the end of the day is to say white people commit crime just as much as non whites.
1/15/2016 09:21:00 AM
your comment made me spill some coffee!
The ACLU dictated policy with the new IS report. Therefore, since homicides and shootings are up since implemenation, over 100 percent, they should be held accountable.
The ACLU's policy, by the numbers, is now the greatest killer and destroyer of the black male in the City of Chicago.
Shouldn't we hold the ACLU accountable for bady policy? Like the mayor, aldermen or superintendent?
Really? Police work is dumb shit? We still have a job to do.
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In other words--- stop doing dumb shit
"The Officer opens his backpack, and there is a screwdriver and pillowcase inside."
30 years ago that situation would have included 15th and Kolmar, an Impala, a cooler, vodka, orange juice, ice cubes, plastic cups and a backpack with a pillow inside. Wouldn't be surprised if "Crash" Flynn came up with a scenario for this during his tenure at the Academy.
WRT this claim by the ACLU:
The data released by the ACLU also finds that police were far more likely to stop African Americans than other residents of Chicago. Although African Americans represent less than one-third of the City’s population, they comprised more than three-quarters of those stopped by police.
I am from the Willie Sutton school*: this is because that is where the crime is.
*Supposedly said that he robs banks because that is where the money is.
How about signs or bumper stickers for squads that say:
this vehicle is aclu compliant.
Watching the news and the "bishops" (used to be a street gang), the rev crew! Why not experiment? the elected criticize the aclu hates police, the aldermen are badged like coppers why not give these cowards a jalopy car like we drive a police radio they can go handle calls in 007,011, etc... alderman and aclu clown 1 night on patrol, use the government media elite to follow and record the hi-jinks this would be "change we can believe in!"
Wow, cannot believe it karen lewis had her own mlk breakfast separate from rahms, and right next to day was that staring thug punk, who gets in hard working coppers face staring and yelling at them that crazy haired thug! Now we know without any doubt who is paying these anti-police thugs! At 1 point my impression was we need to support teachers sorry karen never again! Hope rahm replaces all of your members you anti-police anti-taxpaying clown! You have shown your terue colors do the members of your so called "union" know you pay people to protest police??? Sorry teachers the fish is stinking from the head down!
Can anyone tell me when Chicago had a stop and frisk policy. This is some made up b$&& that the news media has created. Since I got on the job 20yrs ago you have always needed reasonable suspicion to stop and give someone a pat down under the Terry Stop Law.
GEEEEEZUS
Who started the big push for contact cards? Remember the DOC meetings with Phil and Molloy pushing for those things- welcome to reality.
.....and the guy with the gun was also selling drugs and should've been charged with Armed Violence, but the SAO thinks that charge is a joke and the Crook Co. judges don't believe in that law.
Upshot: criminal gets undercharged even when caught
these are the new rules of the job.....no more aggressive police work. The governor signed the bill into law establishing new rules for street stops.
The black caucus of aldercreatures want the police to cease stop and frisk.
The mayor is trying to spin the decrease in uuw arrests and increase in shootings etc as not being related to lack of police activity.
The aclu is very happy with reduced street stops.
Conclusion: no more aggressive police work until the public gets smart and dumps the pols.
answer radio calls,protect yourself and your partner and go home in good health.
All the liberals want at the end of the day is to say white people commit crime just as much as non whites.
1/15/2016 09:21:00 AM
Not on my watch.
Chalkie
Of course members of the community get stopped more it's common sence, 1/3 of the population makes up 85% of crime in the chicago, so common sence tells me that if you commit more crime then any other group you will have more contact with the police, it's like if i go out drinking every night i will have more DUI's then somebody who stays at home, but i guess that's racist. Anybody more dumb then liberals and ACLU? But on the bright side the ACLU will account for at least 200 more deaths of the people they claim to represent, furthur demonstrating how dumb they are just sit back CPD and watch
Blogger Cuthbert J. Twillie said...
Many people (and folk) don't know that one of the founding Lawyers of the ACLU, Roger Baldwin, was a Communist (no joke). The purpose and goal of the ACLU -- in spite of all the high and mighty bullshit spewed about fighting for constitutional rights of the 'downtrodden' -- was to use the U.S. Constitution against America.
It got to the point with the ACLU and its *civil rights lawsuits* -- which had more to do with tearing down the fabric of America and its traditions than any overt 'civil rights violations' -- that it eventually led to Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson's now famous quote: "The constitution is not a suicide pact."
That's the basics on the ACLU. Founded by commies and today they're a bunch of bunch of anti-American left-wing extremist lawyers. And if you check the bios on its members you will find that most of them are also members of the *National Lawyers Guild* -- a communist front group founded to counter the American Bar Association and the Federalist Society.
As such, you can bet the rent that anything the ACLU does has zero to do with what's best for the USA.
ps {Most folks (and people) also don't know that in the early 1900's communism had a fairly big following not only in Europe but right here in the USA too -- it just wasn't from the 1930's to the 1950's. The FBI website has a section with the FBI Files on all the famous Americans who were in the communist party or 'fellow travelers'}
1/15/2016 09:10:00 AM
Hey can you recommend any readings on the ACLU? I recently began watching David Carol's youtube channel and he has nothing good to say about them. One of the things he references is that before you can argue you have to know your opponents philosophy, any input would be appreciated. Stay safe guys.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sorry, but hunches are not PC or RS. cant lawfully stop some creep for ~just~ walking down an alley behind a girl. If he is muttering that he about to rape this b-, then yes. Walking down an ally is not a crime.
1/15/2016 10:33:00 AM
That's just it, moron. We knew that certain street stops were a "gray" area. We were doing it for the betterment of society. We were doing it because THAT is what's right.
Hard for you to believe, but some of us didn't take this as a fall-back job. I/we actually wanted to help people.
Of course you can say, "Who's the moron now!." Well, that is why we have stopped doing proactive work. For 18yrs I got away with this "corruption." I know, and I am proud to say, I tried to help the citizens in the area I patrolled.
I don't think you ever felt this way, too bad.
The ACLU again today said it's happy that stops are down and after new York updated their stop and frisk policy crime went down, really ACLU murders in new York went up 20%, in 2015 from 2014, just like in every city across america bc of you liberal scumbags, can some troll from the ACLU please tell me what data your looking at? If 1 crime goes down that does not mean all crime is down, murders and gun crime are going to go through the roof bc of you, but like the cowards you are you will say hey well at least retail theft is down. And that 2 page ISR report where officer safety doesn't matter anymore is not being used everywhere in Illinois, the new law states we must give receipts and document the interaction, nothing in the law about that rediculous ISR form mandated state wide. We need the good people to stand up and protest these ACLU communist scumbags. Please somebody put a rally together i will show up
Anonymous said...
OFF topic:
Ran across this When the department wants to investigate they will move heaven and hell. I only wish The city would investigate garage burglaries like this! Hell i wish the printer worked in the AREA.
Beware of writing tickets!!!
http://www.cityofchicago.org/content/dam/city/depts/cpb/PoliceDiscipline/14PB2878.pdf
1/15/2016 10:35:00 AM
She airmailed the Chief Of IAD a parker. Not to bright. You think people would have learned after the last fiasco.
street stops have never been especially effective in preventing crime. what prevents crime is locking up violent offenders for longer periods of time. that it the only thing that has ever prevented crime. you can poke around the edges of the problem with police tactics, but they just don't work in the long run. locking up violent offenders does work.
Who is funding the ALCU?
1/15/2016 02:03:00 PM
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Duh? The fuckin' communists.
OFF topic:
Ran across this When the department wants to investigate they will move heaven and hell. I only wish The city would investigate garage burglaries like this! Hell i wish the printer worked in the AREA.
Beware of writing tickets!!!
http://www.cityofchicago.org/content/dam/city/depts/cpb/PoliceDiscipline/14PB2878.pdf
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WOW !!!
Some coppers are DUMB!
There was a recent court case in Detroit, which has apparently been buried by the MSM, I don't have a docket number so I can't look it up. The ACLU sued the Detroit police charging them with racial profiling that a disproportionate number of blacks where being accosted by law enforcement in a particular area. The Judge remarking from the bench when he threw the case out that how could it be racial profiling when 98% of the neighborhood in question was black.
http://www.cityofchicago.org/content/dam/city/depts/cpb/PoliceDiscipline/14PB2878.pdf
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I'm confused--did she write a ticket to Juan Rivera, who was assigned to IAD? To a car registered to the city that his daughter drove? Maybe it's my ADD, but I could not figure that out.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sorry, but hunches are not PC or RS. cant lawfully stop some creep for ~just~ walking down an alley behind a girl. If he is muttering that he about to rape this b-, then yes. Walking down an ally is not a crime.
1/15/2016 10:33:00 AM
That's just it, moron. We knew that certain street stops were a "gray" area. We were doing it for the betterment of society. We were doing it because THAT is what's right.
Hard for you to believe, but some of us didn't take this as a fall-back job. I/we actually wanted to help people.
Of course you can say, "Who's the moron now!." Well, that is why we have stopped doing proactive work. For 18yrs I got away with this "corruption." I know, and I am proud to say, I tried to help the citizens in the area I patrolled.
I don't think you ever felt this way, too bad.
1/16/2016 12:20:00 AM
Bravo on your take of
the "Gray Area" Policing that
a lot of Coppers were so damned good at.
Society wanted and needed that.
Now society has decided it is better
to throw Cops to the hyenas instead
of firmly dealing with the hyenas.
Cops are easy.
They don't/can't retaliate for being targeted
like the hyenas can.
Shut it down.
Anonymous said...
OFF topic:
Ran across this When the department wants to investigate they will move heaven and hell. I only wish The city would investigate garage burglaries like this! Hell i wish the printer worked in the AREA.
Beware of writing tickets!!!
http://www.cityofchicago.org/content/dam/city/depts/cpb/PoliceDiscipline/14PB2878.pdf
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WOW !!!
Some coppers are DUMB!
1/16/2016 11:06:00 AM
Not to smart, look at all the ways there are to prove your a screw up! Like above said about garage burglaries and even homicides investigated like this would hopefully clear some!
No stops, No Lawsuits. Keep job and retire.
Im thinking by summer, when the homicide rate is at 500, somebody witcharge to have some ballsh an ounce of brains (I hope there's one left) will propose going back to the hand held contact card and encourage street stops again. Yes, the ACLU will cry, and probably sue, but common sense has to prevail. Maybe Im being too optimistic, but the case can be made that in order to stop crime, we have to go back to the old way....."because thats the way we always did it". Sometimes, "because thats the way we always did it"....WORKS!!!!
Old retired guy
I do agree. But it will never happen. You need someone in charge with some balls.
"Hello Troll, you are talking about the situation that would never happen since the citizen is law abiding then why would he get stopped by police in the first place ? He would not unless he was committing, about to commit or just committed a crime... then he aint so law abiding."
And exactly what crime was James Blake committing?
Of course if you want a blast from the past, how about Richard Jewell? How'd that work out for him?
Years ago (back in the late 70s) my grandfather got a bunch of parking tickets issued by the city. He lived in Rockford, and was in a hospital and later a nursing home at the time the tickets were issued.
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