Why So Down?
- Police officers are making drastically fewer investigative stops and confiscating fewer guns as murders and shootings have increased so far this year, DNAinfo Chicago has learned.
So far this year, the number of so-called investigative stop reports — formerly known as “contact cards” — has decreased by about 80 percent compared to the same time period last year, police sources told DNAinfo.com.
There also been a 37-percent decline in gun arrests and a 35-percent decrease in gun confiscations compared to last year, according to police data.
Meanwhile, there have been 72 more shootings (a 218 percent increase) and 10 more murders (a 125 percent spike) than the same time period in 2015, according to police data.
An anonymous source has a warning:
- “I wouldn’t accuse them of being willfully irresponsible. But in this environment why would an officer make a stop unless they see a gun or witness a shooting. It’s going to get worse before it gets better.”
The FOP (remember those guys?) make an appearance:
- "I'll leave that up to by the common sense of the citizens as to why things are not as productive ... investigative stop wise," Fraternal Order of Police president Dean Angelo said.
"I've been out to roll calls and so have our board of directors ... and what we're hearing is that officers think that the FOP is the only group of people who have their back. ... I've never seen things like this in my 35 years. ... I've never seen morale this bad in my career."
Thirty-five years? And you think that Officers are saying you have their backs? The last web page update (prior to 13 January) was almost two weeks ago. You guys sure are at the forefront of things.
Mr. Six (aka DeEscalante) says no worries!
Mr. Six (aka DeEscalante) says no worries!
- Interim Supt. John Escalante confirmed that officers are making significant fewer gun arrests and confiscations, but said numbers should rise once officers take to new training.
Which is scheduled for what again? Oh yeah - March. That should go well. Pro-active policing is dead and with it, large tracts of Chicago.
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posted by SCC at 12:35 AM
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Is this dept really this fucking out of touch that they really believe that after training the numbers are going to go up?? Haha. Wtf! This is the new policing whichever way u want to spin it! POLICING IN CHICAGO IS DONE MY FRIENDS
NBC showed the blog on the news, they also interviewed a woman from the ACLU, she said they are glad street stops are down, in June we will be at 400 homicides, heard it here 1st
I blame it on the liberals. This is what happens when liberals have absolute power, as they do in Chicago.
Handsome George is sound asleep while you young idiots are going to your jobs. How do you think Handsome George stays so handsome? He needs his beauty sleep.
The temp Sup. says " numbers should rise after training?" What the hell does "new training" have to do with it? The law is the law PERIOD! We as individuals are held accountable. The Feds, the ACLU, media and every other person and group is watching very closely. We have to play by their rules and that's it. There must be absolute "reasonable suspicion" that can be articulated without error. The sad part is that all our training, knowledge of our environment, intuition and years of experience has now been rendered mostly useless.
In my district the boss handed us a piece of paper. It had a flow chart on when you have to and when you dont have to fill out an Investigative Stop Report. A freaking flow chart! Most of us threw that flow chart in the trash.
Hey, on a brighter note, Chicago is number 1 for a fourth year in a row for bed bugs! Just saying.
On the bright side, complaints against the police are way down!
We don't need training to make us go looking for guns. We need a reason. Anybody?
You could train me all you want I'm not coming in with a 143A. Ever.
" The only object that I will be manipulating is in my pocket ." " I won't be
giving info out to any bust-out " anonymous sources are saying. Don't worry , the
union has your back.
No. They really do . Don't worry . Bwahahaha
I never thought it would get this bad, and they're not done making examples of coppers for political gain amongst the idiots. Don't let them do it to you.
Chicago Urban League/Chicago Police Board Community Input Session: CPD Superintendent Selection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SCnEyb0gGs
Watch at your own risk...
No, large tracts of Chicago are not dead. In fact, they are about to get very lively.
Shootings are up, murders are up, and I bet that large amounts of recreational pharmaceuticals are being exchanged in many nontraditional marketplaces. Chicago is going to be very lively!
Fighting crime is not a "war", it is a game. The prosecutors, defense attorneys, judges and politicians, as well as the police officers, are all players in the game. The criminals make up one team in the game. Other teams are the families, communities, schools, churches and the media. Recently, a 16-year-old was charged with shooting three people, two of the victims died. This same kid was also on probation for an illegal firearm. The police and the prosecutors did their part in the game by arresting and convicting the thug. But the judge failed his part by giving the kid probation. We should also look at the kid's family: maybe some muckraker could look into this kid's background and see how his family failed to raise him properly for our society. Or how about his pastor and community failed by not intervening when he began to show his anti-social behaviors. Can we blame the schools, if this kid did not even go to school?
But as all the other players in the game start blaming the police for all the wrongs in the game, can you blame the police if they just want to sit out a quarter or two? Or maybe the coach put the police on the bench to see how the other players do without the police playing?
For the first time in a while, I am glad to be benched. Sometimes you are just too tired and fed up to play anymore, when everyone blames you as the game is being lost. Let someone else play, and let's see how they do. The other teams challenge your enthusiasm, they challenge your laziness, they challenge if you go left, they challenge if you go right. You follow the rules and you lose. If there is the slightest notion that you broke a rule, you are hung. If you win too much, it's not fair. You just can't win.
So let's let the other teams play up front for awhile.
The only team that doesn't have to play by any rules are the criminals.
Keep telling the Law-abiding Chicago Citizens to get a CCW License and to carry at all times.
If the police are not able to do their jobs, the private citizens will have to take up the slack.
Or Chicago will turn into Detroit, and 200,000 will turn into 2,000,000 lost residents.
John is a suck ass !!!! So we are in a new era , treating professionals like kids for the enjoyment of Rahm is not the answer !!! N dean don't show your pink undies you are such A loser !!!.
You need to find a militant union leader. Someone willing to make waves and name names.
Article by the same guy who discovered that we have a contract couple posts below this one
I still don't see any suspicious people, anything else gets either an anov or mover.
Fuck them. They're going to get the policing, or lack thereof, that the "community" has been " demanding".
So the media is astounded that when they hammer the police for every little thing they do, complain about how "generous" the contract is, and demand that the police stop "violating" the rights of criminals, that crime will go up/ What do they really want?
Liberalism eventually depresses everything.
FOP they just got back from Cuba where they on vacation with Rahm?
...Just THANK RhamBoo for a New CPD Crime Strategy
I have always told officers for years to do a slow down to send a message. Well the city made you guys slow down. This is awesome. This is what they wanted this is what they got. Gotta love it. To date 23 dead and 146 shot. All homicides occurred by guns. Zero police involved homicides and no police shootings.
Well , what did they think was going to happen ?
This will effect the poorest neighborhoods the most. Nobody "holding down" any corners in my area. Do any of the moonbats at the ACLU understand anything about the real world.
I don't think Escallante believes things will return to normal. He says it, but he doesn't really believe it. He is smarter than that.
Maybe Mr. Escalate should be administered a drug test, because he's smoking something.
Mr six!!! Lol
The interim supt. is too dumb or unwilling to know that the drop in stops is directly correlated to the rise in crime.
The only other explanation, which is probably part of it, is that now that McComppost is gone, the true numbers are out there and not hidden in some other crime category.
Stay Fetal. Stay Safe.
Deano! I didn't realize you were still around. Glad to hear from you.
Crime going Up Up Up
Enjoy Rham's New CPD
It's cold outside baby.
As an academy instructor, I see how the officers grasp and understand the concepts. I can honestly say that, with most instructors, it is like trying to resurrect the dead because the said officers just do not get it. You have to articulate the stop. It is not hard. But you guys just keep ranting about how nice the academy instructors have it working in the academy. We have to understand this stuff and we do. That is precisely the reason why we are at the academy. We are here to train you guys. Yes, we understand the material.
Stay safe out there and look out for each other.
I predict this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Besides being police officers we're first and foremost human beings. Human beings with common sense have strong self preservation instincts.
Let's see I can go out and be proactive and be second guessed and Monday morning quarterbacked ad nauseam by the "community", Rahm and the Revruns etc. and then disciplined, indicted etc...... or I can say fuck this shithole and do the absolute bare minimum and stay out of the crosshairs of the "community", Rahm etc.
Which would you choose?
"Stay fetal, my friends, stay fetal."
1/13/2016 11:08:00 PM
Ah, that word. Rahm's legacy to Chicago.
In 100 years, no one will remember a single other thing that he said -- just the harm that he did.
Has anyone yet commissioned a stylized bronze sculpture of a fetus, to slowly turn green with age out in front of City Hall?
As I write, WBBM Radio is still in their new "All LaQuan, All The Time" format...
If anyone went after REPORTERS in this manner, they'd be afraid to get out of their cars to conduct interviews, and the volume of hard news would drop precipitously -- to be replaced by more and more remotely-generated "healthy eating tips," advice on lawn care, and soothing background music...
...and you know it.
It's everyone for themselves. Stay fetal.
Rahm is already concerned about the uptick in the down tick...... so much so that he's doing a phony "listening" and "I've got your back" BS tour of various districts.
He's got your back alright .... he's protecting your back by driving the bus over you.
Fuck you Rahm.
Caution , do not conduct any pat downs , searches of vehicles unless you have a suspect from a forcible felony .
Radio assignments of men with guns , drug sales , gang disturbances , suspicious persons respond , observe , ask for a complainant , if you do not see a gun or large bulge in clothing , keep on rolling code it out . Do not submit any reports that could be false , follow the new rules 100% , city looking to discipline officers .
Person charges you with a gun or any weapon that could cause death or great bodily harm use force , don't hesitate .
Domestics , advise warrants , make case report . Offender dorsn't want o go , unarmed , return yo vehicle ,request a supervisor to respond .
"...in this environment why would an officer make a stop unless they see a gun or witness a shooting?"
Good question -- and even then, you'd be seeing the worst situation of all, one that could REALLY get you in the jackpot sixteen different ways for putting your life on the line.
Any wonder people are having second, third, fourth, and fifth thoughts today?
All Darren Wilson did was to ask a "Gentle Giant" to please move over and walk on the sidewalk, and a chain of events kicked off that has the officer now unable to hold a job even in a shoe store, due to the constant media wolf-pack outside...
So where's the smart money when you're stuck in a vicious punji-stake trap, when you're dangling from a steel-cable poacher's snare that will kill you by inches in the hot sun while everybody gathers to point and laugh and act the fool?
You tell me.
AM 560 basically read out this entire post this morning, understanding our side. Also mentioned the ACLU "non-lethal policing" program possibly being implemented, and asking on the air if anyone would like to volunteer policing Englewood... Unarmed.
Gave me a good chuckle.
At least they get it.
Can someone explain wth is the tribune reporting CPD officer hurt after hit by car, first of what in the world is he/she thinking in todays policing atmosphere and why is he out there sacrificing himself!!!!
Chicago pd, I salute your fetality.
Let things run their course this year.
Stay coffeenated, stay informed of current events, plan your meals, family trips and work outs while parked somewhere safe.
"the community" will just have to shoo away their gang bangers they damn selves.
...and more numbers from our friends at CCJ --
"I work at Cook County Jail. Three years ago we averaged 250 new inmates every day. Last year we averaged 175 inmates every day. The last 6 months, [the number] of inmates taken in...averaged 60 to 80 inmates a day.
"We have closed Division 4, Division 5, and Division 2 Dorm 3, and as of Feb 07. 2016 we are closing Division 1. We have over 3500 inmates [out of jail] on [electronic monitoring]. Tom Dart is all about putting inmates on EM.
"We have about 275 inmates that violated EM and can't be located."
Snip that plastic ankle bracelet and you're gone. "WHOO!"
The diminishing number of arrests due to forcible de-policing is bad enough -- as is Toni Preckwinkle's blatant racial profiling. "There are too many black and brown people in my jail."
...but isn't just that last item about the walk-aways called "a major scandal that could take down a county sheriff?"
Congratulations SCC. You made the news, showed the web site and quoted from it. You are in the big leagues now kid you made it to the show. Just don't change and let it go to your head.
ACLU's point of view:
You stop 10 people in a day. One of them has a gun and you arrest that person and they are charge and prosecuted accordingly..... You do 10 isr's and and arrest report with a gun recovery, taking a dangerous armed criminal off the street.... Nice job officer!!!
ACLU says - yes you took an armed criminal off the street - but at what cost? You violated the rights of 9 people before you eventually found one with a gun. 90% of your stops are in the interest of civil rights violations. Your "hunches" suck and cannot be trusted.
Cops response: actually some of those that I stopped likely were selling drug and had them in their mouth or their crotch, places I can't recover them. My "reasonable articulable suspicion" does not suck, I'm just trying to do the best job I can. And I did get an armed felon off the street, possibly preventing a shooting.
ACLU: No officer, your "hunches" suck. You are a civil rights violator and a racist. Await the lawsuit I am about to file. Please list your assets accordingly.
The very foundation of Community Policing is: 1. Proactive vs. Reactive patrol and strategy. 2. Partnership between the Police and the Community. The current environment, encouraged by the Media and Politicians who want to convince the Community that they are their friends is such that Nobody will defend the police. So, the police must look out for themselves to survive. Proactive policing means you stop vehicles and people based on "Reasonable Suspicion", you don't need Probable Cause to stop people. Proactive policing means that in one night on patrol, you may stop a dozen or dozens of people. However, now to do so could be seen as "harassment"!And what many people, especially those who have not been defendants in federal lawsuits fail to understand is this: Once you are the Respondent or Defendant in a litigation, no matter the outcome, you are the LOSER. YOU lost sleep, time, money and your family saw your suffering and shared that suffering with you. Since my retirement from CPD, I now teach at a small Community College, and I try to emphasize this to my students. Anyone who makes ANY PROACTIVE STOP is risking their lives, which we accept. However, you are also risking your family, health, career and wealth. To what end? To line the pockets of some bottom feeding law firm? To give some Ghetto Rat enough money to put him and his bitch into overdose status? DO NO MORE THAN THE MINIMUM REQUIRED BY YOUR ASSIGNMENT. DEMAND THAT YOUR SUPERVISOR BE PRESENT AT ANY ARREST AND OR STOP SO THAT HE/SHE IS NOW A WITNESS TO THE SITUATION AND CONDITION OF THE PERSON ARRESTED. Remember, the ACLU members and lawyers, living in Wilmette and Highland Park do not care about you or the minority children who will suffer and die from your failure to be proactive. Hopefully, one day you will see a Benz buying crack at Lake and Cicero, being driven by one those lawyer's daughters.(Baby "G")
Has anyone seen the COS of the superintendents office JR, he thinks he is the superintendent,that guy is there 7 days a week,if the "interm" stopped short,JR would break his nose,its sad to see this "former marine" act like this.
For all you hopeful people that think Escalante will be next superintendent "not" crime is through the roof since he took over..Plus he will be getting ready to do more great america commercials,he wont have the time..
FOP has your backs............LOL, that's rich.
FOP has NO ONE's backs, they just bid their time until their merit promotion gets announced.
Sorry, but Chicago is pretty F-ked up. Black people are going to wish cops were taking a strong position, but maybe this is good.
The sheeple will not tolerate incompetent politicians and maybe for once Chicago will get a better caliber of politician. Give Rahm credit, he has awoken the masses with his arrogant incompetence. That, I believe, is a good thing.
Just make sure you run and back some candidates that can handle the political jobs.
Props to the officer who REFUSED to shake the mayors hand in 009. To the rest of you, SMH.
It just goes to show that these newly promoted bosses would cut off their nut sack to rise to the top. Most of the recently promoted exempts have been exempt for a while. That's a nice pension if they quit today. Yet they'll carry on in this impossible environment and try to tell officers to do things that they wouldn't and probably haven't done in their careers.
Ducky his department. The inmates have won. Let them burn it down. I'm sorry to say if you get jammed up for aggressive police tactics your foolish and on your own. The brass, politicians and the public have spoken. They'd rather have lawlessness than your presence.
The happiest guy these days is McCarthy
Someone please tell me why Escalente feels the need to lie. Aggravated batteries, homicides, gun recoveries are all down because "the laws have changed." It's not a learning curve, it's not that the stop report is too long, it's because the Illinois legislature passed a new law that says we can't stop suspicious persons until we know; they are about to,have committed or are in the act of committing a crime.
The people of Illinois need to understand we don't make the laws we enforce them. And the more laws that are passed to protect the criminals the more crime there will be.
I've never been so down on this job. I wish I could leave. I'm financially stuck though. I joined the police dept to help people and try to make a difference with my life. I worked hard and got a lot of very dangerous people off the street and inside a cage where they couldn't hurt the community anymore. And now every time I turn on the TV or read the news I'M THE VILLIAN!! When did this go so wrong? It's like I'm living in some crazy bizarre dream. I never hear anyone, especially our mayor, superintendent or fop speaking up for us. I don't hear the community saying a peep either. Everyone is jumping on the hate the police bandwagon. All the hard work myself and my coworkers have down over the years is totally unappreciated and underestimated. I guess now that all of us officers are seeing the way that the community truly feels about us, it makes it easy not to put in any extra effort than the absolute minimum. Maybe then they'll realize how valuable we really were all these years.
Most officers wont do the investigative stops report because it requires too much work. Maybe if they streamlined it then more of us would do the stops and the report.
With our power and authority to stop and search street thugs onerously restricted and every stop under review by the ACLU (who has already demonstrated an anti police position) Areas of Chicago will become Mogadishu and little Somalia run by gangbangers and store front cons dressed as ministers. Of course if the politicians are criminals that's what they want. Unless there are drastic changes we are witnessing the death of Chicago.
"Pro-active policing is dead and with it, large tracts of Chicago."
This is by design. Emanuel will play every angle he can to bring this city to bankruptcy and at the moment his best bet is to keep the current police department mechanism going.
He's got police pensions, he's got the media already doing his bidding to create war against the police and he alone controls the free cash giveaways once again played up by the media.
As it stands now, the police will be the sacrificial excuse for bankruptcy. And if that starts falling apart then the teachers are right behind that. Actually, we're in competition with teachers in terms of who will be the final excuse for bankruptcy.
This is how they did it in Detroit. Emanuel's just using their playbook. If you'll recall, the troll media reported Detroit lawyers were here talking to Emanuel's lawyers. There's only one reason for that: ask them how they can protect the connected rich and fuck the employees seeing as how Detroit employees barely got a scratch.
Still waiting for that free taser?
RAHM is so great to wanna give all of us taser from his buddy Terry Hilliard.
Mr Six, hate to tell you, training or no training, but the days of proactive policing are pretty much over.
The tail is wagging the dog. The police are pawns in the politics of this shithole city and state.
These new laws and policies were implemented for the sole purpose of haboring the criminals,
keeping the white politicians in power, and giving the black politicians and reveruns legitimacy.
Anybody know who these lawyer are that read the contact card for the ACLU?
Where are these scholars located?
If I run the "suspicious persons" info on LEADS and then enter that info on the contact card am i Committing a crime sharing LEADS info with NON-police?
Do the lawyer sign a disclosure agreement that sates they may never work in the private sector regarding any cards the reviewed?
Does the computer system keep track of who actually reads each card and prints it up?
would not want any leaks to RAHMs staff would we?
wait until summer when shootings are way way up and contact cards are down down.....perhaps even the dems can figure out cause and effect
"...but said numbers should rise once officers take to new training."
NOPE. Guess again.
This is crazy, if the criminals don't know it yet they will very soon, its open season in the City of Chicago. High taxes, high crime, cold, corruption, not a lot of fun, why do we live here?
A good friend of mine just quit the CPD with only 20 years. He said it was not worth risking what pension he has for some bullshit lawsuit or the dept. throwing him under the bus on a shitty charge. Great job libs.
Now that we have to write novels when we stop someone, even on school absentees, why bother? A simple stop takes at least 30 minutes of paper if your pdt works. Ever tried to use the pdt near the airport? My buddy in 2 said their pdts suck in hyde park too. Dean Angelo doesnt have a clue either, he should really stop speaking in public and seems escalante has Alzheimers, dementia or simple CRS syndrome (cant remember shit). But i guess he's just overworked trying to keep his name out of the scandals that his previous unit was responsible for. let them make him supt and we're really screwed.
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Maybe a few alderfools, reverends, activists and ACLU lawyers will catch a bullet in their ass at which time they MIGHT figure out that the police are not the problem. Maybe the tide will turn and we can go back out and be the police again.....Till then, stay safe everyone.
Years of valuable knowledge and "street eyes" are now wasted. Oh well, I guess we need to be brainwashed, er I mean re-trained on how to be the Police.
The worst part of it all is that new or younger coppers will never be taught , or a least be able to watch, how good policing is done. They in turn, will be doing it wrong and then pass on that bad knowledge to future rookies. It is a cycle that will continue, and continue, until the murders are sky high and the clearance rate (as bad as it is now) is at 5%.
Congratulations ACLU, politicians and CPD (merit) bosses. You have ruined all hope for not only the department, but probably for the future of this city too.
Yes, Get with The Program.
After you're properly trained ( I'd rather call it 'schooled' because it's forced down on you) on the ISR's you will see how the DOJ-IPRA-Dept will string you up, first in front of the Media, then before the US States Atty and finally before a Judge because when they nit-pick for any error or circumstantial entry on that ISR. These ISR's are to prove to the DOJ your insensitivity to the community.
They (DOJ/IPRA) expect very soon to scoop somebody up on one of these infractions. They are scouring the old CC's too. Don't get wrapped up in the technicalities, don't write them. There's a whole new DOJ/IPRA rule for Use of Force too, and that will be even more stringent. YOU become the Offender and YOU and every Sworn on the scene WILL be interrogated, while the citizen gets walk away.
Get with the Program and put the blinders on, because the white aggressive proactive witch hunt continues.
Thank chicken shit Democrats Rahm Emanuel.
Fop won the CR retention grievance yesterday. Huge win. Now look for the city and every leftist group to be in federal court to try and stop it. The whole time I’ve been on the job the coppers who’s glass is always half empty say how our contract sucks, the captain sucks, the mayor sucks, fop sucks, and his wife doesn’t anymore. The CPD is now staffed by a bunch of whiners who all want instant gratification.
The city and the ACLU wrote the order on street stops. Now everyone is pissing in their pants. Use your F-ing heads and give them the police department they want. Just make sure you and the rest of our people go home at the end of the watch. It will have to get a lot worse until it can get better.
But it’s never going back to the way it was.
The old timers now retiring now say the only time they were ever allowed to be the police was the four years Jane Byrne was the Mayor.
Fop was at roll call last week. I saw a different group again at VRI in the 11th district two days later. They said the same thing and answered every question. One guy bitched about no info but when asked he never has been to a meeting, watched the video of a meeting, never watched an informational videos on the web site, has not signed up for email updates, throws away the monthly magazine because it’s propaganda. And he was still bitching at check off.
Training has nothing to do with it.
It's the natural reaction to being handcuffed and neutered.
Stay fetal my friends.
John Escalante is a good guy but he's in a no win position..... Rahm's got him by the short hairs.
Does your IN-CAR Camera work? Violence out of control and what does the mayor do? He promotes more "Merit" Captains (Inspectors) to ride around stopping police to make sure their IN-CAR Camera is working. What a joke. We could use more Sergeants and Detectives but the mayor wants more Lieutenants, Captains, Commanders, and Deputy Chiefs. Taxpayers pay the bill, our pensions take a bigger hit and these high ranking people don't have a clue how to run a district. What a joke this department has become. KW
This is the first time in decades that i can remember that officers are coming together and slowing down. Keep it up this is just a beginning for us. Wait until the DOJ comes back with nothing, which they will. Things are going to change....stay tuned!
Hey Rham, make no mistake the DOJ is looking at you too!!!!!!
This will effect the poorest neighborhoods the most. Nobody "holding down" any corners in my area. Do any of the moonbats at the ACLU understand anything about the real world.
I don't think Escallante believes things will return to normal. He says it, but he doesn't really believe it. He is smarter than that.
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Moonbats. Love it. Do you read Covington? "Freedom's Sons" is wonderful foreshadowing of the liberal demise of America. Every police officer should read it. Dismiss the racism in it and take the lessons to heart. Police are blue just like the military is green. Having been in both it doesn't matter what your skin color is. What matters is your character. Oh, if you smoke cush or reggie and have a LINK card your character is shot.
Signed,
The biggest cracker blue boy in patrol.
What's with the douchbag 9th district tact officers posing for a pic with rahm the other day. You all jump at the chance to be in a pic with a guy that will hang your plain clothes ass out to dry in a heart beat. I don't get it.
"As an academy instructor, I see how the officers grasp and understand the concepts. I can honestly say that, with most instructors, it is like trying to resurrect the dead because the said officers just do not get it. "
Well, come back out on the streets and lead the way Super Cop! Articulate all you want, the ACLU is thirsty!
We obviously need a new breed of cops. Let's see all the liberal-arts majors who know everything about policing (because they watched every season of NCIS) get in there and show the professionals how it's done.
Breaking News... (sound of teletype in background)
This just in... Chicago Democrats dump Anita Alvarez and endorse Kim Foxx (f/1) for States Attorney.
Question: Who will they endorse for Mayor of Chicago?
to 6.16am,,,,,,,,GFY you sanctimonious house mouse. You're at the Academy because you're clouted. We understand fully all the training and we're choosing not to do shit and give the cop hating left EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT.
Get your ass back on the street you pussy
Signed, A Copper with an advanced degree in social science who understands human nature more than you seem to
There's no way in hell in giving some shit bag my name and star number.
For what? So they can find out where I live through a Google search?
My brothers and sisters that is a line we can not let them cross for the safety of your families.
We are now in the cross hairs .... Stay fetal
Some communities do not want to be partners with the police. They prefer to be opponents. These communities should get the policing they deserve.....very little. Give them reports. Respond to their domestics and try to make peace. Carry crime scene tape. Lots of yellow tape.
it's been said over and over, in a variety of ways.....aggressive, proactive police work in Chicago is dead; one ACLU attorney said that they were looking forward to fewer stops of people by the police...well, they're getting exactly what they wanted; while shootings and other crime rises, the police look the other way. The good citizens who remain in Chicago, or can't leave for any number of reasons, better consider concealed carry, since in effect they will be on their own...
"stay fetal, my friends!"
I'm on the job in a city and state far from yours. All of us are watching you and those working other cities under consent decrees with keen interest.
Do what you have to do, brothers. I'd say that you will always have our support, but you already knew that.
The last two years have TRAINED me too only respond to calls or 10-1.
Let's place the blame where it belongs this law was enacted on behalf of the gangs and reverends who will make more in drug profits by removing the police, kh and thanks to our state reps who fell over themselves to vote for this because of political correctness.
Someone please tell me why Escalente feels the need to lie. Aggravated batteries, homicides, gun recoveries are all down because "the laws have changed." It's not a learning curve, it's not that the stop report is too long, it's because the Illinois legislature passed a new law that says we can't stop suspicious persons until we know; they are about to,have committed or are in the act of committing a crime.
The people of Illinois need to understand we don't make the laws we enforce them. And the more laws that are passed to protect the criminals the more crime there will be.
1/14/2016 08:36:00 AM
Are you really this fucking stupid? The standard for stopping people has always been the same. I agree the paperwork is cumbersome, but use your brain.
Fuck you, Phil Rogers. What bias.
--No Cop Here
Don't worry rahm. We have your back.
Glad to see you guys are slowing it down and I dont blame you one bit. Im a retired CFD lieutenant paramedic. Spent 16 years before I crossed over on ambos in Englewood and Southshore. In the mid 90's EMS went through a period of time when we were all getting hit with IR numbers and suspension time for bullshit. Sound familiar? Well starting on the Memorial Day weekend we started going 100% by the book on every run. That included calling in every run to the hospital medical control. If you even remotely suggested shortness of breath,dizziness, or chest pain you got the whole nine yards of paramedical quackery. We bogged the system down that weekend. The telemetry radio bases begged us to call it off. After that weekend disciplinary charges for bs ceased. Stay fetal lads and lasses. Let the libtards have the police they have always wanted. Me, I will carry always. Best wishes to you all.
ride out the storm and do nothing, things will get so bad they will beg for "the police"
You tell me.
1/14/2016 06:33:00 AM
Ezekiel 25:17. "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy My brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay My vengeance upon you."
Got it covered.
Chalkie
Start informing the citizens you stop that the ACLU is getting all their info and ask if they mind sharing it because it go's into a data base by the ACLU who are not law enforcement. Simple answer from the citizen's is I don't want my information shared.What happens then? Call a Sgt or just don't write it up?
"Chicago Tonight" has learned of a list of candidates from within the CPD, put together by African-American aldermen, clergy members and community leaders. They include:
• Ernest Brown, chief of Cook County Department of Homeland Security and Emergency Management
• Eddie Johnson, chief of patrol
• Fred Waller, deputy chief
• Eric Washington, head of Community Policing
• Eugene Williams, head of the Bureau of Administration
Oh my DTEB coming back........
What's going to happen is that dude will realize that violence is not the way, the Poleece are the cause of all of their problems and soon they will become parents, leaders, and truely vibrant members of the community. Just ask Grandma.
"All Darren Wilson did was to ask a "Gentle Giant" to please move over and walk on the sidewalk, and a chain of events kicked off that has the officer now unable to hold a job even in a shoe store, due to the constant media wolf-pack outside..."
He could've called for back up, disengaged and picked up Brown the next day. Not like Ferguson is a metropolis of 9 million. Most assuredly he'd still have his job today.
Why doesn't anyone point out the fact that the original contact card was perfectly fine maybe a tweak or two needed but it worked fine when done correctly, the problem was the bosses being led by McCarthy to pressure officers to get them for numbers sake, therefore having officers violate peoples rights (maybe) by doing so. Compstat is problem ! I'm on the job a minute and can see already how the department is being led. City hall being the main culprit !When u have a control freak of a mayor try to control the P.D when he has no knowledge as how the beast works then you get what we have now ! Buckle in boys this summer is gonna be a wild ride, stock up on VINs and stay fetal my friends .
The activists groups and politicians ended policing and gave the streets to the thugs. Now we can only stop the bad guys if they are actually doing the crime or after the crime. The first part of "reasonable suspicion " "about to commit a crime" is the area the ACLU and all the other groups and media will be closely scrutinizing. We must be able to articulate this without error because this is the target grey area they are looking at. Do not manufacture this and make sure you cross you "T's and dot your I's" No more going on a hunch, using your training, your experience or knowledge of the streets. We must now wait til the crime is actually happening or after it's happened. That's easy to articulate. Be safe
ACLU "report" here --
War Comes Home : The Excessive Militarization Of American Policing
https://www.aclu.org/feature/war-comes-home
"Our [Your?] neighborhoods are not warzones [sic], and police officers should not be treating us [Who? Affluent lawyers?] like wartime enemies...it’s time for American police to remember that they are supposed to protect and serve our communities, not wage war on the people who live in them."
The people who live in certain areas spend their days and nights waging war on each other...police today are merely supposed to string yellow tape, count empty cartridge cases in the street, canvass the area for no information/false information, and duck under showers of rocks and bottles from people motherf__ing them.
"Do yo job!"
"Defund the police!"
"Where was you?
"We do not need you up in here!"
&c.
Is it just me, or is this called "cognitive dissonance?"
"Areas of Chicago [have] become Mogadishu and little Somalia run by gangbangers and store front cons dressed as ministers."
1/14/2016 08:54:00 AM
Yup, and "with our power and authority to stop and search street thugs onerously restricted and every stop under review by the ACLU [which] has already demonstrated an anti-police position)" we are f___ed.
"Of course, if the politicians are criminals, that's what they want."
Yup.
"[Due to these] drastic changes we are witnessing the death of Chicago."
Right again.
These events are not "prospective," about to happen. They began approx. 1964, and have been continuing and worsening.
I'm just putting it all into the present tense. Stiff with a foolish expression on its face isn't going to be laying in the middle of the street. It IS.
http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/people/person.asp?personId=28909614&privcapId=885779
Having trouble uploading the pic, but SCC you should know the monthly issue of Chicago Public School features a picture of Laquan McDonald in his cap and gown with bullet holes in him. Cover reads teaching Laquan McDonald in context. What an absolute fucking disgrace.
To 8:36 and every one else. We have always been required to use probable cause to stop an individual. PC being that a crime has occurred, is being committed or will be committed if our actions fo not prevent it from occurring.
We are now required to submitt a complete written report as to those facts, and give a person a reciept documenting the stop and search. And enter same into a computer data base.
Someone please tell me why Escalente feels the need to lie. Aggravated batteries, homicides, gun recoveries are all down because "the laws have changed." It's not a learning curve, it's not that the stop report is too long, it's because the Illinois legislature passed a new law that says we can't stop suspicious persons until we know; they are about to,have committed or are in the act of committing a crime.
The people of Illinois need to understand we don't make the laws we enforce them. And the more laws that are passed to protect the criminals the more crime there will be.
WHY would Escalante lie? Could it be...than he WANTS TO KEEP HIS JOB, at least for a minute? What would YOU say if you were the chief executive of a PD? "Because my troops are too lazy and too disheartened about the current state of affairs in Policing here today, and I don't see much improvement for the forseeable future?" Because that's about all anyone could say (honestly) about this whole shitty situation. But it doesn't matter, most intelligent people can, and are able to read between Escalante's lines. Stay fetal, Francis!
With the department the ACLU and every law firm and media outlet monitoring our stops and our "reasonable suspicion " we also need to remember the FEDS are also investigating too. Be careful guys!
Roussell is just trying to save his do-nothing patronage job. Escalante would be better off just sending 'ol Jimbo packing, with McCarthy gone, Roussell is like a fish that jumped out of the aquarium onto the floor. Rahm should have sent him packing with Tracy.
"Pro-active policing is dead and with it, large tracts of Chicago." -- SCC
More than half of the city became unusable a long time ago.
https://www.mapbox.com/blog/chicago-crime-with-turf/
Now they've got the coppers badly cowed and backing out slowly, their eyes flicking around as they reach behind them for the door handle of their car.
Coming along nicely. It just takes a little time.
Wait for the government grant for Rahm to produce an official atlas of Chicago's "Zones Urbains Sensibles," the "no-go zones" that are officially recognized in other formerly Western countries...
http://sig.ville.gouv.fr/Atlas/ZUS/
Don't worry. Be happy. Get out your wallet and pay to ride the new Ferris wheel...
You know another shame about this? Offenders have been found off of contact cards, witnesses too...And victims for that matter...ask a good detective...now the powers that be will cut into them as a resource, by making it onerous. Idiots.
I say at least 1,000 homicides / 5,500 shot by end of 2016. It's what they want. Sorry to the innocent civilians. Move out while you can.
DBEL
Hey Mr. Training Academy Warrior,
I understand that recurrent training is critical in our profession, and so is having instructors that not only thoroughly understand the material- but can get it across to officers receiving training in an understandable and meaningful way.
I'm not here to bash the academy staff at all, and I'm not hating on any of the perks of working down there.
HOWEVER, I am here hating on the process of working at the academy. I have over a decade on this job, yet some of the instructors that trained me are STILL AT THE ACADEMY!!!! Do you think any things changed in the last 10-11 years? And some have been down there longer than that.
So don't tell us how easy the ISR is, and we shouldn't be afraid of it. Just because you know the rules to the game, doesn't mean you know how to play it. There is a reason NFL referees don't quit to become coaches or players.
Things are a little different on the streets than when you got assigned to the academy a handful of years ago.
Officers at the academy should just be detailed, and not serve longer than 2 years down there. Then rotate back to the streets for a year, and then reapply to the academy. You need to not only understand the rules, but know how they are applied in real life- and THAT is something that most of the instructors at the academy do not understand, and it is a great disservice to the officers receiving the training.
said...
I've never been so down on this job. I wish I could leave. I'm financially stuck though. I joined the police dept to help people and try to make a difference with my life. I worked hard and got a lot of very dangerous people off the street and inside a cage where they couldn't hurt the community anymore. And now every time I turn on the TV or read the news I'M THE VILLIAN!! When did this go so wrong? It's like I'm living in some crazy bizarre dream. I never hear anyone, especially our mayor, superintendent or fop speaking up for us. I don't hear the community saying a peep either. Everyone is jumping on the hate the police bandwagon. All the hard work myself and my coworkers have down over the years is totally unappreciated and underestimated. I guess now that all of us officers are seeing the way that the community truly feels about us, it makes it easy not to put in any extra effort than the absolute minimum. Maybe then they'll realize how valuable we really were all these years.
#########
I'm a retired Sgt. To this poster: try not to get too far down. You have been doing the right thing. It may not seem so, but there are people that you have helped, even is the worst neighborhoods that appreciate what you do. Fuck the media, the revs and the politicos. Do your thing within the guidelines, as fucked up as they are. Do the best that you can. Be careful, watch out for your blue brothers and sisters and hold your head up. If you get a chance, help someone. Hopefully you have a good partner. I don't know how much time you have until retirement, but try to laugh a bit, it helps. I supervised good guys and dogs, and you sound like a good guy to me.Try to string some days off together, take the wife or hubby and kids away for a bit. Re-charge. You will come back better. Hang in there buddy, you are doing God's work.
From one who's been there.
When you're told to do more street stops, (and therefore ISR's), simply answer:
I don't want to.
I don't have to.
You can't make me.
I didn't see anything.
It's another Kunkel piece. A day or two ago, you were saying he was so incredibly cynical that it was an offense to call him a journalist.
I just think it's worth pointing out that Kunkel has now written several pieces giving a police perspective. And also several giving other perspectives. This is what journalists do. I think you should cut him more slack. He's not a police spokesperson. What you need are people who get the police perspective in front of people, to make their own decision.
By all means criticize what he writes when you think he's wrong. But keep in mind that he may be someone of good will. Don't think "whoever's against us on one thing is an enemy" but "whoever's with us on one thing is a potential friend."
For what it's worth. Friendly advice.
Bet you a hundred bucks to a bucket of piss
That we won't hear another peep about how
Activity is low and crime is up!! I mean the " crime is up "
Stories will keep coming but not how we aren't working
they can't and won't address that again
The minute the media tossed that story out ther
The dept said its cause of new policies and that's that
No reporter will bring the lack of activity up ever
Again because if the dept has to admit that coppers
Aren't working then they are gonna next have to answer the
Question why ? And that my friends is a very loaded question
Deano is about Deano period. Sell out. He only knows one word. Take. He is all about angles and has only selfish motivations. Him and Lappe need to go.
Stick together BLUE
Anonymous said...
Most officers wont do the investigative stops report because it requires too much work. Maybe if they streamlined it then more of us would do the stops and the report.
1/14/2016 08:38:00 AM
Too much work is not the main reason.
They're going to use it to jam you up. That's the main concern.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Someone please tell me why Escalente feels the need to lie. Aggravated batteries, homicides, gun recoveries are all down because "the laws have changed." It's not a learning curve, it's not that the stop report is too long, it's because the Illinois legislature passed a new law that says we can't stop suspicious persons until we know; they are about to,have committed or are in the act of committing a crime.
The people of Illinois need to understand we don't make the laws we enforce them. And the more laws that are passed to protect the criminals the more crime there will be.
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Congrats. You're the reason for new paperwork all across Illinois. THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE LAW. This is basic cop 101 stuff
As an academy instructor, I see how the officers grasp and understand the concepts. I can honestly say that, with most instructors, it is like trying to resurrect the dead because the said officers just do not get it. You have to articulate the stop. It is not hard. But you guys just keep ranting about how nice the academy instructors have it working in the academy. We have to understand this stuff and we do. That is precisely the reason why we are at the academy. We are here to train you guys. Yes, we understand the material.
Stay safe out there and look out for each other.
I'm not biting on this one.
wait until summer when shootings are way way up and contact cards are down down.....perhaps even the dems can figure out cause and effect
1/14/2016 09:20:00 AM
You give the democrat way too much credit.
listen , days of on view street stops , clearing corners , parks , school grounds are over . so isr , fcc will go down 70-90%
raise age to buy cigarettes , another smoke and mirrors
how did lower time for curfews work mout , another stupid law , without any enforcement
write curfews on the gun shot victims out after curfew
Yeah ....um training will help bring the numbers up on the ISR s . Hahah.. Can training help you when youre going before corp consul or getting supeona-ed ? Or listing down your assests before the Feds? What a joke this has all become. Who the hell thought it was a good idea to let the ACLU and politicians dictate the legality and legitimacy of a street stop?? I thought that was for the courts and judges to decide. Tiny Dancer, you evil FK you and your ilk sold us out beyond all moral ethic. Maybe someday 10 years down the road the citizens will realize that having a police superintendent that is appointed by a politician is a horrendous idea. the command staff at the very top should be ashamed of themselves for acccepting this garbage and regurgitating it to the troops. Not a single F-ing ounce of leadership shown. But I guess why should they bother since their days of pooleecing the streets are way behind them now.
Can't wait till summer..
These investigative stop reports need to be treated as exactly what they will be used for, a deposition AGAINST you to be used later.
When talking to a suspect, why do you ask the same questions over and over? To trip them up and catch them in a lie. 3 separate narratives for the same incident seems to be hunting for the same thing. They think we are all liars, racists, murderers and criminals who stomp all over peoples rights. They are looking for any copper to make some simple mistake and they will hang you. It could be a legitimate, honest mistake, but you will be an example. Pay very close attention to what you write on them, because someone else sure the hell is too.
I am sad and embarassed to live in this State. They passed the laws that you have to abide by. I will never step foot in Chicago again. Never mind the obscene fees and taxes. It's just not safe. Sad really.
The death spiral has begun. Get out while you can, the dogs are taking over.
Allegedly 121st watch in 011 5th Dist was told that cell phone records are gonna be gathered from p.o's involved in shooting 12 hrs before and twelve hrs after shooting. So it seems that the city is going all out in violation of contract or was this deanos open contract policy to retalk it out. Boy we have no rights. If it's the truth then the union better step up
I'm hearing Charlie Williams is the guy
The mayor and politicians tie police hands. You get out of the car without a microphone you take days off work without pay. The supervisor gets hit. Now when you do a stop you have to fill out a form and finish the report on the computer that's time off the street Mayor Rahm. Do you not think that with police inside having to fill out forms they are not on active patrol? It's not hard to figure out. ,confusing.?If anything is wrong on the form the supervisor has to contact the department to investigate. Stop and frisk out the window thank you politicians . It's not hard to figure out media, police are forced to be off the street ,to be filling out forms ,to not stop people ,to not arrestt protesters who spit in their face ,who step on their feet off camera attempting to instigate a situation. And when they do get arrested the judges let them go. Did you notice the driver who got punched by the protesters and no one got arrested ,and innocent citizen. !How come that's not all over the news.? Where's the outrage !! yeah there's a lot more crime and there's probably a lot more to come until the politicians figure it out. !
The pendulum has tilted to the left long enough it's time to swing back to the right .
I blame it on the bed bugs with guns.....
14 jan 16 channel 9 news all anti police stories!DONT WORRY ABOUT ALL THE SHOOTINGS,MURDERS AND ROBBERIES PEOPLE! its ok!i am fetal the rest of my career!blinders r on!
As an academy instructor, I see how the officers grasp and understand the concepts. I can honestly say that, with most instructors, it is like trying to resurrect the dead because the said officers just do not get it. You have to articulate the stop. It is not hard. But you guys just keep ranting about how nice the academy instructors have it working in the academy. We have to understand this stuff and we do. That is precisely the reason why we are at the academy. We are here to train you guys. Yes, we understand the material.
Stay safe out there and look out for each other.
1/14/2016 06:16:00 AM
No the reason you are at the academy is because you know how to kiss ass!! I know of two actual policemen working there and I doubt if you are either!It's real easy to talk tough about teaching, how about you get your head out of the bosses lap, and come SHOW everyone how much you know. Otherwise you are nothing more than an ass kisser with a big fucking mouth
Anonymous Anonymous said...
As an academy instructor, I see how the officers grasp and understand the concepts. I can honestly say that, with most instructors, it is like trying to resurrect the dead because the said officers just do not get it. You have to articulate the stop. It is not hard. But you guys just keep ranting about how nice the academy instructors have it working in the academy. We have to understand this stuff and we do. That is precisely the reason why we are at the academy. We are here to train you guys. Yes, we understand the material.
Stay safe out there and look out for each other.
1/14/2016 06:16:00 AM
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"That is precisely the reason why we are at the academy".
LOL!!! Having a phone call has absolutely NOTHING to do with it!
Go peddle your bullshit somewhere else!
Your FOP was given a seat at the table after the ACLU presented the first draft of this legislation. I guess they figured that since they had some input on amending of the original draft they should not oppose it and therefore did not oppose it. So this legislation was passed with zero opposition from your FOP to legislation authored by the ACLU. But don't worry Dean and the boyz at FOP have your back. The nightmare continues to get worse especially when those who took an oath to protect your conditions of employment turn their backs on you.
I'm so happy the CCL crowd is stepping up and thinning the gene pool!
I can't wait for my turn to do one of these types of reports for a CCl holder and to shake their hands when I'm done!
As for Police, stay Fetal!
That pressure by small-dick bosses to make gun arrests have gotten some 010th district officers in hot water.
Did I really see an Academy puke dumping on the street warriors for not being as smart as him. He better hope his clout stays healthy, and in power. The street folk don't forget arrogance, displayed by the anointed.
Hey, what's up with 9th Dist Tact, all smiles with Mr. jackoff,do they realize he
has solely fucked this city and department?
As a 24 year vet I'm hoping that the trolls are reading this. You all have what you wanted. A police Dept. who are going to lay up and do nothing. I get to work, grab the keys and radio. jump into the squad car and roll out to get a cup of coffee. From there I go to my trusty ole hole and sit there sipping my coffee and waiting for my radio assignment. And like clockwork our field LT. will role up and chat for a bit and he hits his trusty ole spot and watch the time go by. I'm not going to risk my family for these mutts period. If a copper needs help I'm flying like a bat out of hell because he's a brother in blue and if I have to shoot a muther Fu(#&r in defense of a fellow officer, I'll shoot 17 times. But for everybody else who became Police shooting investigators overnight.... I'll be sippin that cup o Joe and watch on the sideline. Deuces...
A UIC Sgt. is going to be without pay for about 90 days while workmans comp gets figured out by our new Chief . If any of you feel like throwing $20 onto the pile all of us at UIC PD would really appreciate it . Sgt. Jimmy Kehoe is a great guy.
https://www.gofundme.com/jjejd3pg
Keep telling the Law-abiding Chicago Citizens to get a CCW License and to carry at all times.
If the police are not able to do their jobs, the private citizens will have to take up the slack.
Or Chicago will turn into Detroit, and 200,000 will turn into 2,000,000 lost residents.
Don't tell anybody anything. Just keep on walking. Unless it's completely and clearly necessary don't make any contact with other human beings while on duty. Try and make yourself invisible. Make like the wind and don't listen to any bullshit anybody has to say including other cops. People who know about concealed carry already have their shit. A very long police hibernation is long overdue in chicago. Bury them with silence and inaction. Even if there's 800 murders this year the media and politicians will ignore the real problem and blame the cops. No matter what they'll blame the cops.
That is precisely the reason why we are at the academy. We are here to train you guys. Yes, we understand the material.
Stay safe out there and look out for each other.
1/14/2016 06:16:00 AM
OK tough guy ! 015 tac team for you because you can show the two year wonders, who have stopped proactive police work due to waking up from the " get one more for da boss " syndrome.
And please lay off the bullshit, officers still working the beat do not want your pep talk! EVER !
Hold on i forgot one thing in my rage writing this rant. The day you get bounced from the academy and if the Gods smile on me I hope to find you standing next to me in a hallway with urine stench and used condoms which is a common work environment on the beat, I'll be happy to hold the door open for you on the first domestic.
Chicago Urban League/Chicago Police Board Community Input Session: CPD Superintendent Selection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SCnEyb0gGs
Watch at your own risk...
Just watched some of it. What a group of ignorant, uneducated racists assholes in the audience. Gotta love the woman who said white people are racist and white supremacists. Of course, she could barely speak English but wants to have a say in the police contract and wants to pick the superintendent. Lady, look in your own neighborhood. It's not white people killing, beating, robbing and raping your people, it's your own people doing that to each other. You should thank God for the police.
Second rate low rent lawyers from Rahm's Corporation Counsel's office were no match for the effete ACLU counsel and now we have a great big shit sandwich to savor !
Hey Rahm, just make BW the next supe. You will give the ACLU and the rev's what they want, and you can finish the job of killing what's left of this police department. Remember Brothers and Sisters, proactive is just an acne medicine. Stay fetal my friends.
FUCK the people in this city, they voted for Rahm!! They bitched and complained about how we Police the city, let it burn!!!Stay safe,carry your weapon with you everywhere (like the law allows us too) because you do not want to become one of the victims. The good people in this city will have to take it on the chin, well this is what they wanted. When you are in bed with the devil like the city has been with the good reverends this is what you get. Religious leaders are supposed to pull the community together to stop violence and not fill the minds of their followers with ideas of going against the police, what have they done to stop their followers from breaking the law?? This is all a joke,they preach peace but cause chaos, and the biggest asshole out there is the great Fr. Pfleger ... When you read the paper about common citizens saving the day with concealed carry, more people better get it, just wait for the warm weather it is not that far away!! Stay safe!!!!!!
DOD not accepting Il DLs to get on Base/Post
http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/2016/01/14/ids-5-states-no-longer-enough-enter-fort-bragg/78781314/
Way to go Jesse White
Props to the officer who REFUSED to shake the mayors hand in 009. To the rest of you, SMH.
Didn't quite go exactly like that. The officer didn't REFUSE he just pulled his hand back and Rahm countered with a clumsy/awkward high five type of handshake.
Just for info ...over 900 9161's facing disciplinary action for incorrectly filling out the new ISR.
If this isn't the worst piece of lawyer garbage...
From Police Magazine online...
"Accused Cop Killer Sues Fallen Officer, Indianapolis PD for Excessive Force
The man charged with killing Indianapolis Metro Police Officer Perry Renn in July 2014 has now filed a federal lawsuit against Renn, and the City of Indianapolis, alleging the use of excessive force. Major Davis II claims he was irreparably injured. He's demanding almost $7 million dollars in damages.
Jack Crawford, a former prosecutor, is an experienced criminal defense attorney whose job often puts him at odds with police. He read the lawsuit.
"It is outrageous, incredibly outrageous," Crawford said, "And has no chance in the world of being successful."
According to police, officers responding to reports of a man with a gun, confronted Davis in a dark east side alley.
One officer says Davis pointed an assault rifle at Officer Perry Renn and fired first. "
In his 35 years! Most of it spent on the medical, give me a fuckin break.
Under a Real Commander in Chief We'd be at War With Iran!!!!!
Instead humiliation and defeat All under a Democrat
US NAV Punked Code of Conduct???? Name rank and serial number
But we apologize America defeated
Just like ChIraq where Rhmabo wont back the CPD
As an academy instructor, I see how the officers grasp and understand the concepts. I can honestly say that, with most instructors, it is like trying to resurrect the dead .............
Im glad you have a nice spot. I don't hold it against you either. (Good for you). But your name isn't going on any ISR to be weighed and measured by some scum lawyer that is looking to hit the ghetto lottery. Your not the one they will consider suing. Your not the one stopping the actual suspect. The ISR better not have the same wording as any a previous card or the bottom feeder will say your lying. Guarantee you I won't be the test case for the dirt bag defenders that want to sue because a large percentage of my ISR's will be of a certain race religion gender or whatever. Having to articulate why a patrol officer does his job isn't the problem. Having to defend it to a cook county jury that is prejudiced by political scum and half the story news media outlets is a problem. Stay in the class room and fetal.
New Special Order 01-1-2016 Will become effective 15 Jan 2016.
Homicides will be renamed to Rahmacide. The code 0110 will remain the same.
Col Hanibal Smith.
A-TEAM
Yes there is some Rahm sensitivity. But what are the alternatives? This is not the time to sink to Detriolet levels. A semblance of civilization needs to maintained. A lot depends on this. Your grandparents, your parents and your children.
Civilization needs to contained at all costs!
Yo dudes stop hatin on Chicago. There are some very nice areas.
“It’s been a little confusing to many of the officers who were used to operating under the old law,” he said.
The forms are an outgrowth of a settlement between the City and the American Civil Liberties Union, which found in a study last year that stop-and-frisk policies were overwhelmingly concentrated in the city’s black neighborhoods.
Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Chicago-Police-Street-Stops-Forms-365217761.html#ixzz3xHfvYWgd
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Props to the officer who REFUSED to shake the mayors hand in 009. To the rest of you, SMH.
1/14/2016 08:18:00 AM
It did not happen. TD 9.5 was merely treated respectfully by all, however, some of the bosses were doing some sucking up.
To the academy instructor. 1. You're only there because you have a phone call. 2. Those who can, do. Those who can't (or never did), teach
Officers are not completing ISR , not because it is to long .
We are not going to make illegal stops , falsify reports to make anyone look good .
You tied our hands , threw officers under the bus , live with it .
Officers are educated , know citizens , even gang bangers have rights . We like our job , know our job and are not making any illegal stops . How many stops have supervisors made , they patrol districts , they are smart , no stops .
This is great! They will get the police department they've been begging for!! Can't wait until this liberal pukes become victims of their own policy! They actually believe officers are not doing these stops because it's more paper work!! Are you kidding? How out of touch are these assholes!! "Let the bodies hit the floor"!
Start updating resumes. This job is over and not worth it.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is the first time in decades that i can remember that officers are coming together and slowing down. Keep it up this is just a beginning for us. Wait until the DOJ comes back with nothing, which they will. Things are going to change....stay tuned!
1/14/2016 10:24:00 AM
Nobody's slowing down.
They're ADAPTING.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"All Darren Wilson did was to ask a "Gentle Giant" to please move over and walk on the sidewalk, and a chain of events kicked off that has the officer now unable to hold a job even in a shoe store, due to the constant media wolf-pack outside..."
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He could've called for back up, disengaged and picked up Brown the next day. Not like Ferguson is a metropolis of 9 million. Most assuredly he'd still have his job today.
1/14/2016 12:54:00 PM
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Well, if he'd known that idiot was going to disobey a lawful order, act the fool, charge him and wrestle him for his gun while he was trapped, seatbelted into his marked police vehicle, maybe he would have decided NOT to do the job he was hired to do. Instead, he behaved professionally, did his job and ended up being crucified for it.
Tell your relatives who live in the city to get their FOID card if they don't already have one, buy a firearm, learn how to handle/shoot it, and to get a CCW permit. It has come down to protecting one self. Just look at the last two robberies where two offenders died and two were wounded. In both robberies the offenders entered a store that had signs posted no firearms. In each robbery the offenders displayed handguns. In each robbery a CCW carrier employee drew their weapon and stopped the robbery by shooting the offenders. The police are not making stops due to legal constraints and the bad guys now know that they can basically carry with immunity. The wild wild west the politicians have cried about with the streets running red with blood because of CCW is about to take place this year, and not because of CCW, but because of do-gooders, politicians and the ACLU handcuffing the police, causing the police to be less proactive. It has now become every man and woman for themselves. All because of do-gooders, politicians and the ACLU, thank you.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey Rahm, just make BW the next supe. You will give the ACLU and the rev's what they want, and you can finish the job of killing what's left of this police department. Remember Brothers and Sisters, proactive is just an acne medicine. Stay fetal my friends.
1/14/2016 07:00:00 PM
Barry White?
1:38 pm
You are describing reasonable suspicion, moron. Don't expect the public to grasp it if you can't. Asshat
why don't you liberal politicians stop making excuses for those who refuse to recognize the law and stop making excuses for their inability to conform with the law? When a person commits a carjacking and runs from the police why is it now a use of force issue instead of a devil put down who will never be able to victimize another citizen again. you have to stand for something or you will fall for anything. When the devils work is more important than God's work you just fell for anything or a vote. You fu**ing bastar*s will the end of civilization. Its the end of the world as we know it.
"Anonymous said...
"Don't tell anybody anything. Just keep on walking. Unless it's completely and clearly necessary don't make any contact with other human beings while on duty. Try and make yourself invisible. Make like the wind and don't listen to any bullshit anybody has to say including other cops. People who know about concealed carry already have their shit. A very long police hibernation is long overdue in chicago. Bury them with silence and inaction. Even if there's 800 murders this year the media and politicians will ignore the real problem and blame the cops. No matter what they'll blame the cops.
1/14/2016 06:30:00 PM"
Truer words have never been spoken.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Did I really see an Academy puke dumping on the street warriors for not being as smart as him. He better hope his clout stays healthy, and in power. The street folk don't forget arrogance, displayed by the anointed.
1/14/2016 05:56:00 PM
No, what you really saw was an anonymous poster who may be a 15yr old kid in Mom's basement, having fun riling up the police by CLAIMING to work at the academy.
Anonymous The Neanderthal said...
ACLU "report" here --
War Comes Home : The Excessive Militarization Of American Policing
https://www.aclu.org/feature/war-comes-home
"Our [Your?] neighborhoods are not warzones [sic], and police officers should not be treating us [Who? Affluent lawyers?] like wartime enemies...it’s time for American police to remember that they are supposed to protect and serve our communities, not wage war on the people who live in them."
The people who live in certain areas spend their days and nights waging war on each other...police today are merely supposed to string yellow tape, count empty cartridge cases in the street, canvass the area for no information/false information, and duck under showers of rocks and bottles from people motherf__ing them.
"Do yo job!"
"Defund the police!"
"Where was you?
"We do not need you up in here!"
&c.
Is it just me, or is this called "cognitive dissonance?"
1/14/2016 01:02:00 PM
Whooo!
#porchsitterlivesmatter
an' shit...
Brother that's the brown, stank and nat'chal
UNSCRIPTED conversation the main instigators
aren't trying to have with the likes of US sitting at
the table...
"Y'all might say/do sump'n!"
You know... The whole "Chicago Cops are
unruly and out of control" meme.
Hmmmm...
"Cognitive Dissonance."
To the nth degree...
I'm a retired Sgt. To this poster: try not to get too far down. You have been doing the right thing. It may not seem so, but there are people that you have helped, even is the worst neighborhoods that appreciate what you do. Fuck the media, the revs and the politicos. Do your thing within the guidelines, as fucked up as they are. Do the best that you can. Be careful, watch out for your blue brothers and sisters and hold your head up. If you get a chance, help someone. Hopefully you have a good partner. I don't know how much time you have until retirement, but try to laugh a bit, it helps. I supervised good guys and dogs, and you sound like a good guy to me.Try to string some days off together, take the wife or hubby and kids away for a bit. Re-charge. You will come back better. Hang in there buddy, you are doing God's work.
From one who's been there.
1/14/2016 02:22:00 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
We said bother in the advise you gave the ad. I really worry about guys who always were out there doing work and now have to become dog's because of the state of the CPD. Brother and sister', stress will kill you sooner then any round shot at you in the hood. Seen too many copper' making their last decision to end it all. Civilians would never understand how good copper' think, it is a calling to be the police here in Chicago. Like the good sgt said, de-stress and get away if the shit is getting bad for you. Don't hit the gin mill because you will make that last decision or end up fucked. Doing yourself give your family and friends grief to the max. You are loved by many, guys and girls. I really wish magic could take CPD to 20 years ago when CPD ruled the night. Myself seen the pits of hell when things were great over 20 years ago, Getting burnt out is not worth it. Most of you are having trouble being dog ass coppers, which is not in not in your blood.
Thing of the day you can retire, 30 pus years went by for me in a flash. Had many great times otj, and will die knowing I am still the police for eternity. My God be with you all and keep you healthy and getting a good laugh to ward off the shit thrown at you all.
I wish I could hit the street for a month and have you good guys laughing the day away. Lastly, many - many of the inner city folks love the police and cannot show it with the hate the police shit surrounding them. The old brother' of the hood took care of the rats when they fucked up in the hood. Peace be with you a, thank' sarge for you words to the street coppers.
Anonymous said...
Just for info ...over 900 9161's facing disciplinary action for incorrectly filling out the new ISR.
Then they deserve it for being dumb enough to fill it out in the first place.
I'll they are all VRI whores.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
That is precisely the reason why we are at the academy. We are here to train you guys. Yes, we understand the material.
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Do you understand the term ASSHAT?
30 pending and what said...
Allegedly 121st watch in 011 5th Dist was told that cell phone records are gonna be gathered from p.o's involved in shooting 12 hrs before and twelve hrs after shooting. So it seems that the city is going all out in violation of contract or was this deanos open contract policy to retalk it out. Boy we have no rights. If it's the truth then the union better step up
1/14/2016 04:17:00 PM
That's why you carry a $60 throw-away phone from Walmart at work. Well worth it.
Blogger 30 pending and what said...
Allegedly 121st watch in 011 5th Dist was told that cell phone records are gonna be gathered from p.o's involved in shooting 12 hrs before and twelve hrs after shooting. So it seems that the city is going all out in violation of contract or was this deanos open contract policy to retalk it out. Boy we have no rights. If it's the truth then the union better step up
1/14/2016 04:17:00 PM
Nothing but a witch hunt now. IPRA wanted to strip the officer by noon the next day but Escalante ask why, if it was a good shoot. They could give no reason.
"Because my troops are too lazy and too disheartened about the current state of affairs in Policing here today, and I don't see much improvement for the forseeable future?" Because that's about all anyone could say (honestly) about this whole shitty situation. But it doesn't matter, most intelligent people can, and are able to read between Escalante's lines. Stay fetal, Francis!
1/14/2016 01:38:00 PM
F/U. Has nothing to do with LAZY you ASSHAT. Has to do with wanting to stay out of jail/getting suspended/being put under a microscope. Go stuff your theory up YOUR LAZY ASS.
I'm hearing Charlie Williams is the guy
WRONGO! CW is not throwing his hat in the ring.
"Chicago Tonight" has learned of a list of candidates from within the CPD, put together by African-American aldermen, clergy members and community leaders. They include:
• Ernest Brown, chief of Cook County Department of Homeland Security and Emergency Management
• Eddie Johnson, chief of patrol
• Fred Waller, deputy chief
• Eric Washington, head of Community Policing
• Eugene Williams, head of the Bureau of Administration
Oh my DTEB coming back........
Unless someone gets to DTEB's disciplinary file, and releases just a few of the many complaints listed in it...or some ambitious reporter can successfully FOIA it. There's more than enough in there to cut DTEB off of that prospective CPD Supt. list, once some of the juicier tidbits get leaked to the media.
OT--
http://www.aol.com/article/2016/01/14/loads-of-americans-are-moving-out-of-these-18-states/21297364/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl7%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D-953948848
3. Illinois
Total people moving in: 2193
Total people moving out: 3535
Net Flow: -1342
Percent of Moves Outbound: 61.7%
"Chicago Tonight" has learned of a list of candidates from within the CPD, put together by African-American aldermen, clergy members and community leaders. They include:
• Ernest Brown, chief of Cook County Department of Homeland Security and Emergency Management
• Eddie Johnson, chief of patrol
• Fred Waller, deputy chief
• Eric Washington, head of Community Policing
• Eugene Williams, head of the Bureau of Administration
All I can say is Wow!!!!!
When do the White alderscum come out with their list?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
“It’s been a little confusing to many of the officers who were used to operating under the old law,” he said.
The forms are an outgrowth of a settlement between the City and the American Civil Liberties Union, which found in a study last year that stop-and-frisk policies were overwhelmingly concentrated in the city’s black neighborhoods.
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Oh,you mean where most of the crime is at?
What a coincidence.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just for info ...over 900 9161's facing disciplinary action for incorrectly filling out the new ISR.
1/14/2016 07:46:00 PM
No surprise there. Some guys just don't get it.
Don't tell anybody anything. Just keep on walking. Unless it's completely and clearly necessary don't make any contact with other human beings while on duty. Try and make yourself invisible. Make like the wind and don't listen to any bullshit anybody has to say including other cops. People who know about concealed carry already have their shit. A very long police hibernation is long overdue in chicago. Bury them with silence and inaction. Even if there's 800 murders this year the media and politicians will ignore the real problem and blame the cops. No matter what they'll blame the cops.
1/14/2016 06:30:00 PM
Very nicely said.
Police bottleneck .. work bottleneck ... that's what they want. Ever since the academy I have been told "they don't want you to do anything." I didn't know what they meant. I didn't believe them. Surely they want me to work. Surely they want arrests. Surely the ASA want court cases. Surely they sheriff wants guys in his jail.
Not true. The only fly in the ointment is the homicide rate. That can't be fixed without cops doing work.
No one used to care about the homicide rate. Remember the early 90's when it was around 900? Now it's half that. Maybe we really do know what we are doing.
But no terry stops without a hassle now. We are apparently all lying on the contact cards. No lineups without an independent administrator now. No problem until you run one 3x per week. Bottleneck. No interviews without it being on camera now. What are there 20 cameras in the city? Bottleneck.
NYPD has about a 7:1 ration of cop:detective. CPD has what 12:1? Go figure. We are about 2 decades behind NYC.
The message is clear.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Props to the officer who REFUSED to shake the mayors hand in 009. To the rest of you, SMH.
Didn't quite go exactly like that. The officer didn't REFUSE he just pulled his hand back and Rahm countered with a clumsy/awkward high five type of handshake.
1/14/2016 07:38:00 PM
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Best case scenario would have been if the officer high fived rahms forehead.
19 years wasted with this department. Lost my family, dumped back to patrol because I lacked clout. What future do I have here with CPD and what future do I have outside of CPD when everyone hates me for being a police officer. I wish I could relive my life and I would never have become a cop. Seems like I wasted my life woth this department. I am sure, I am not alone in this feeling. Maybe, God will have mercy on me and take me away from all this crap. God bless all my brothers and sisters in blue. Just Not finding it very easy to put on that uniform or a happy helpful face. I am done!
"DOD not accepting Il DLs to get on Base/Post"
http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/2016/01/14/ids-5-states-no-longer-enough-enter-fort-bragg/78781314/
1/14/2016 07:20:00 PM
...but the federal Department Of Health and Human Services has assumed control of our military installations. It is THEY who make the final decision whether the active-duty base is "suitable" for the housing of illegal aliens, such as the swarm of "UACs" from Central America, the upcoming "Syrian" and Cuban (staging now in tent cities in Panama City, Panama) refugee floods, etc.
Look it up online and you will see that I'm correct. Unfortunately.
As an academy instructor, I see how the officers grasp and understand the concepts. I can honestly say that, with most instructors, it is like trying to resurrect the dead because the said officers just do not get it. You have to articulate the stop. It is not hard. But you guys just keep ranting about how nice the academy instructors have it working in the academy. We have to understand this stuff and we do. That is precisely the reason why we are at the academy. We are here to train you guys. Yes, we understand the material.
Stay safe out there and look out for each other.
1/14/2016 06:16:00 AM
You really show how clueless and out of touch you are with this statement. If this is the caliber of instructors at the training academy, we are fucked. Why don't you take the blame for churning out the nitwits that are currently out on the street today screwing up? It shows how poorly they were "instructed" at the academy. Loser.
BCP says --
"The whole 'Chicago Cops are unruly and out of control' meme."
1/15/2016 04:54:00 AM
...as narrated at a range of one inch by some teenage "artist" or "poet" standing on your toes with a powerful bullhorn.
Watch yourselves. If he punches you in the head, he'll be let go again by Anita Alvarez "for the good of the city."
It has entered my mind that someday he might become a "wrong place wrong timer," "gunned down in a crossfire between rival gangs battling for drug turf," except that the little s__t probably has the survival instincts of a Highland Parker, and won't go anywhere near the people he's allegedly "trying to organize." He knows how dangerous it is there.
Safer to mess with white Christmas shoppers downtown.
"Well, if {Darren Wilson had] known that idiot was going to disobey a lawful order, act the fool, charge him and wrestle him for his gun while he was trapped, seatbelted into his marked police vehicle, maybe he would have decided NOT to do the job he was hired to do. Instead, he behaved professionally, did his job and ended up being crucified for it."
1/15/2016 01:12:00 AM
Don't know if the flash regarding the strongarm robbery of a nearby convenience store had even gone out yet at time of Wilson's initial reasonable and lawful police order to clear the street for traffic for everyone's safety, which knowledge would have pushed his caution up the scale...guy just got stuck in a meat grinder.
The ACLU has an agenda. The dead and injured as a result are acceptable collateral damage for them. If they are willing to let people die imagine what they will do to you, the police officer. The ultimate target is the police officer. Years from now the ACLU will have thousands of IS reports and will find fault in every one of them. Good luck trying to defend a stop that you did 1-2-3 years ago. They will use these reports to force more rules and more restrictions. These reports are just the 1st step. There are officers out there that want to be the police and will try and fill this paperwork the right way. Your heart is in the right place but I feel sorry for you. The ACLU doesn't care about you. You are just a tool for them. They will use your own words against you and drag you into federal court. Remember, you are just acceptable collateral damage.
Mark my words. In the near future (tech already available) the body and squad video will be streamed live for anybody to watch 24/7. Coming to the ACLU office near you.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just for info ...over 900 9161's facing disciplinary action for incorrectly filling out the new ISR.
1/14/2016 07:46:00 PM
#1 How do you know?
#2 Publish the names so me can mock them and tell them told you so.
As an academy instructor.. Blah blah.
We all know you got the academy instructor part cause your ability to deep throat & bend over and hide a hamster in your ass.
Don't think that for one minute you are smarter than beat officers You got the position probably because of your phone call and have never worked the street since 18years ago. You probably did your ppo cycles in headquarters. Never ever knowing the street too scared of your own shadow. Coward!
Guns loaded we will be safe cause we know you don't have our back academy instructor just like FOP.
I really do feel sorry for all you guys having to put up with all this BS because of the ACLU and the BLM idiots including the idiot mayor and president we have. best thing to do is do nothing but watch the shit go down and go take reports. maybe then people will be happy to have the good guys in blue around. BLUE LIVES MATTER!! stay safe my brothers and sisters in blue!!
To all you 009 district officers smiling pretty for the camera with Rahm. Shame on you. You're all spineless.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Chicago Tonight" has learned of a list of candidates from within the CPD, put together by African-American aldermen, clergy members and community leaders. They include:
• Ernest Brown, chief of Cook County Department of Homeland Security and Emergency Management
• Eddie Johnson, chief of patrol
• Fred Waller, deputy chief
• Eric Washington, head of Community Policing
• Eugene Williams, head of the Bureau of Administration
Oh my DTEB coming back........
Unless someone gets to DTEB's disciplinary file, and releases just a few of the many complaints listed in it...or some ambitious reporter can successfully FOIA it. There's more than enough in there to cut DTEB off of that prospective CPD Supt. list, once some of the juicier tidbits get leaked to the media.
1/15/2016 06:31:00 AM
If Emanuel had one ounce of sense, he'd leak the list of names right here on SCC.
Every bit of dirt and every detail that Rahm's 'background checks' can never seem to find will be posted here on SCC within twenty-four hours.
As for Ernie Brown, I witnessed and was a victim of his disgusting behavior toward females on the job. If he's chosen, Rahm can hold his breath, waiting to be hugely embarrassed by yet another of his outrageously bad hiring choices.
(I only wish there were cellphone cameras back then...)
Mark my words. In the near future (tech already available) the body and squad video will be streamed live for anybody to watch 24/7. Coming to the ACLU office near you.
They would never do that. They will only show events in which they claim the police were wrong. They'd never put everything out there for everyone to see. That would expose the beasts we deal with every day and it would defeat their purpose of making the cops look bad.
Just for info ...over 900 9161's facing disciplinary action for incorrectly filling out the new ISR.
I can assure you I wont be getting disciplined EVER!
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