Damn Those Police!
- The Chicago Police Accountability Task Force held the first of a series of forums to hear from the community Tuesday night. The group was formed in response to public outcries on the deadly police shooting of Laquan McDonald.
Frustrated residents offered dozens of suggestions, including: track and punish officers accused of wrongdoing, fire cops who lie, and diversify the department.
Notice the phrasing - "track and punish officers accused of wrongdoing." Not actually officers found guilty of wrong doing, just those accused. It's as if no one there has ever heard of the Constitution, Due Process, Beyond a Reasonable Doubt, etc etc. This must be why they so often make dope dealers, murderers and assorted felons their heroes.
Firing liars is a good idea, but proving the lie is the issue. Just because "he said, she said" is in conflict, doesn't always mean a lie took place. Interpretation is a big deal, and how one party interprets the actions, words, facts doesn't mean they are wrong in their interpretation.
Diversity is a noble goal, but at what cost? Lowering the standards across the board? Overlooking some unsavory backgrounds? Dumbing down tests? Promoting the criminally incompetent? The Chicago Police Department already does that and more.
Firing liars is a good idea, but proving the lie is the issue. Just because "he said, she said" is in conflict, doesn't always mean a lie took place. Interpretation is a big deal, and how one party interprets the actions, words, facts doesn't mean they are wrong in their interpretation.
Diversity is a noble goal, but at what cost? Lowering the standards across the board? Overlooking some unsavory backgrounds? Dumbing down tests? Promoting the criminally incompetent? The Chicago Police Department already does that and more.
- The room was half empty, but Chicago's new police accountability task force got an earful Tuesday night. Many pointed directly to the video of police officer Jason Van Dyke shooting Laquan McDonald 16 times.
"If Jason Van Dyke went to jail that would scare some of these policeman from just gunning our innocent grandkids down," another attendee said.
Um, that's why there's a trial dumbass. And again, "innocent" while under the influence of illegal narcotics, armed with a knife, committing numerous instances of property damage - your "hero" doesn't just have a dirty halo there Brainiac.
- "At the heart of this is racism and racist officers and their behavior," attendee Pamela Hurt said.
Prove it. Seriously, prove it. You make this tired old accusation, but there isn't a shred of anything to support it. Are there individual racists here and there? Sure, and in your community, too. But a blanket accusation like that needs to be rebutted and proof needs to be presented, immediately, so as to nip it and end it right now.
- A former Chicago police officer told the task force race matters, saying: "What you need is people who look like you to work in your community,"
You know what? We're going ask Dean Angelo and the FOP to support this proposal wholeheartedly. We hear it constantly from the community, from the "revrunds," from so-called "former cops." You know what? It's time to embrace this proposal fully and unconditionally. Black cops for black communities, white for white, brown for brown. At the very least, the pale sections of town will get something closer to the number of cops they're paying for. At best, you'll expose these morons who keep saying it for the ridiculous dumbass racists that they actually are.
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posted by SCC at 12:37 AM
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FETAL! Learn it, live it, be it, do it.
GLBT police officers for the GLBT community.
I am amazed how all these loyal Democrat voters want to turn back the clock to the not-so-good old days of Separate But Equal?
Do they really want the segregated 1940's and 1950's back?
The African Studies Professors and students want their own colleges, their own dorms, their own neighborhoods and black run businesses. May as well given them their own police, laws and courts too. Only if they take their own prisons! That would at least cut down on the prison violence.
US Democrat Senator, and Grand Kleagle of the KKK Robert Byrd, and Bull Connor, loyal DNC Committeeman are probably laughing in hell.
I agree 100% !!! At least our home front will be very well protected and the ghetto ass south side will be going up for grabs and we won't be blamed as being the fuckn Racist for doing our job what we love to do stop crime
On Tuesday night's edition of Fox News, The O'Reilly Factor, O'Reilly and attorneys Kimberly Guilfoyle and Lis Wiel blasted Rahm Emanuel for all the homicides and shootings. The summary is on the Factor website. Audio available to members.
Saw this on TV. HOW Stupid!!!
What about "Good citizen accountability"? I still say there should be classes at ALL CPS schools to teach these "citizens" what to do when a police officers says, "Stop" or "Drop it".
AND the comment, "People need to see people who are the same policing them." Sounds a bit racist to me??!?!?
So I guess if I drive through Chicago and a non-white officer tells me to stop, I can just keep going because "He don't look like me."
Does anyone else see how stupid this whole charade is?
Commander Evan's rank and race didn't do him much good, did it?
They don't see race, they just see Poleece. Can't do shit with the poleece around.
The message being conveyed by the politicians, the media and activists:
-WHITE POLICE = RACIST
-WE NEED TO REPLACE WHITE POLICE OFFICERS
-WHITE PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THEY ARE RACIST BECAUSE IT IS IN THEIR SUBCONSCIOUS THOUGHTS.
The only systemic racism is that being perpetrated against Caucasians. Caucasians will be negatively affected by the openly racist comments by those Democrat, Liberal, Progressive loons in power.
and the majority of the black officers response to that demand would be... "fuck that shit"
Hell yeah, I would be quick to want to work somewhere else than the ghetto, I'm all for it. When does the pilot program start dean? By the way I was told by an arrestee that is black, stating that black police officers are mean and the white ones are nice,....very interesting, I'm sure that won't be brought to light at the meeting.
Not too worry there gonna get exactly what they want lol they just don't know it yet
Fuck these people already nobody has the balls to tell them to fuck off.
They been catered to for so long they don't even realize how ridiculous their demands are
Good luck this summer.... Your gonna need it!
I rarely chime in SCC , but you guys have been on fire lately. Every topic today was very intelligently covered . You've pointed out the utter stupidity on display by the CPD brass and the " community ". It's good for officers to be able to get info from a blog that is on their side. Reading this website really makes all us retired guys realize how lucky we are. Keep up the good work. Stay safe everyone .
If you have a prior you should not be allowed in the room. Run them at the door.
Why can't we all just try to get along with each other?
Does anyone know who that idiot retiree is?
Perfect. I'm requesting to be given a foot beat on Taylor street so I can be with my fellow Italians. Pass me the supersod and some vino.
Yet the community will continue unabated, wellfare, housing, robbing, and killing.
Anyone else sick and tired of this diversity crap crammed down our throats?
And people wonder why Donald Trump is doing so well. He points out this assault on the police and says it will stop when he is President.
Fuck CH#9 4am first story is, u guessed it, "a poll was done on if u trust the police" These news outlets keep the fire burning, instead of reporting all the
murder's these honor students do etc etc Fuck them all!
"Black cops for black communitis, white for white, brown for brown."
Great idea, then instead of being racist we can be segregationists.
Remember they used "he said , she said" to convict Drew Peterson. If they can change the rules for one case, can't they for any?
Ok, I heard it on the radio this morning and wondered why it took so long for the stupid to chime in? The news reader was reporting that maybe Laurie Lightfoot could be considered as the new Superintendent. Sneed according to the reader writes that contrary to popular opinion, the Superintendent does not necessarily need to have police experience. I guess supidity knows no boundaries in Chicago. This is exactly the kind of decision making that ended badly in Detroit. Hire people for positions in which they have no experience and expect a successful outcome. But then look at the house where Sneed works. She is living proof that that a) you need not be a journalist in order to have a newspaper column and b) in the case of the Sun Times, you need not have ownership that knows anything about running a newspaper. Hey Sneed, how is that business model working for the Sun Times?
This is just part of 'social engineering' . The aclu and b.l.m. are a hidden political agenda. The boiled down reason why parts of the black community is in shambles ,is from social engineering . In the 1960's this manipulation created the welfare state. The government will control the raising of your child. The government will house, feed and generally care for the child. What was the desired result ? A population of non thinking zombies that will always keep politicians employed.. The social engineers now need police officers to lay down and stay out of the way of the self important attorneys, and future self serving politicians.
It's an easy task to vilify the most visible aspect of American society. Our proper response should and always be , you get the police department you want.
Whatever we have been doing in recent times is clearly working. The aclu is releasing statements claiming not to be responsible for the rise in violence. Let the aclu ,blm,reporters and the boy loving priest patrol the street. Clearly, they have the answers. If they love their community so much, then put the cameras down and go talk to their neighbors on the street corners. If you want the police out of your neighbors lives , then go be your
brothers keeper.
Talk is cheap, Mr Six, and I can not believe you or the brass.
We have had enough and will police only to the minimally required degree as set forth in the General Orders.
No less, no more.
You have our backs? No thanks, we will have each others backs out here.
We have families to support and raise and educate.
We have pensions (hopefully) to earn that will be used to escape from this fetid and festering cesspool of a city.
We have self respect to maintain.
We also have empathy for those truly innocent individuals who will be sacrificed by the high priests of liberal democrat socio-communism.
Let the racists at the ACLU bleat about how it is not their fault. Innocent blood is already on their hands.
Mr Six, can you "out" the "community" and the ACLU, the DOJ and self interested legislators and law firms for what they are?
Do you have the cajones for that or are you the ballerinas "puta"?
Can you imagine me working in the 'Ville? Hilarious.
Yes, I hear the tired old phrase that the department needs more officers of color so they can relate to the community and solve the crime issue. How did that work for Baltimore, Atlanta, St. Louis, Detroit, Washington DC and closer to town, Harvey, East Chicago Heights, Robbins, Gary ? In my mind this is a good goal, but a constants refrain of this is racist in itself. I saw the photo of the retired black police officers calling for change and I recall working with some of them. Some were great, some were average and some were dogs. The same percentage that any white group accounts for. I worked for black commanders and found some very good but some were out and out racists and a few were corrupt. These town hall meetings that are being held with people given an open mike to blast the police and say unsubstantiated things need to go both ways. Let the cops take the mike and make accusations about the public and how it is working in some of these neighborhoods. Now that would be interesting. Lets go both ways.
Years ago when I was in the academy I ask the home room instructor if he would want his kids to be police.... Before I finished the question, he said "NO".... I was like, damn.... A year on the job, after seeing guys get railroaded, call back crap, and now... Tossed under the bus.
I am telling my kids to do some medical bullshit... When was the last time you seen a doctor get railroaded?
They demand only black officers. But we're the racists?
Only 10% of this town beats the bull shit drum! 20% believe it because the media, crooked politicians and the revs say it. The other 30% the silent majority know it's bull shit but are to busy in their day to day lives they remain silent. I think soon the silent will be heard!
Not one complainer stated it was wrong for McDonald to be breaking into trucks , slicing tires on police cars , threatening police officers with a knife or refusing to drop the knife . None mentioned problem of these kids abandoned by baby mama and baby daddie , way of life for complainers at the meeting .
former Chicago police officer told the task force race matters, saying: "What you need is people who look like you to work in your community,"
That, is racist.
"If Jason Van Dyke went to jail that would scare some of these policeman from just gunning our innocent grandkids down," another attendee said.
Wow, that's all I can say. Treyvon Martin Mike Brown are also innocent?
Ive been on for 24 years. I have been saying this for years, and years, balck officers in black areas, white officers in white areas, hispanic offiers in hispanic areas. It is stupid as hell, it is racist as hell, but I woul love to see it because it would really show how messed up things are. Plus there would be some pissed off cops who work in 018 that would have to go to 3 on 3rd shift.
Black officers in black areas, if that isnt rascist I dont know what is. What have we come to, what a joke. Oh dont forget, our innocent kids, GTFOH
"What you need is people who look like you to work in your community ".
This coming from a former P.O. Way to make the devide further, What a Mope!
I've observed that the black community exhibits racist behavior towards white police officers. What is going to be done about that?
So the racists black cop wants policing to be done by race? He only wants to see black cops in his neighborhood? Wow.
RACIST!
"and diversify the department"= destroy the department. How about ONE standard for all that MUST be met. I would hate to be a person of color and know that I really didn't make the grade and needed a lesser standard.....what does that say????
Can you imagine if dangerous people like this were in charge? Oh wait.
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Keep Working! You are well respected!
They want a kangaroo court to screw over everyone but themselves. OK establish Islamic Sharia law and see how they like that. Black Imams dealing justice to the black community. Doesn't that have a nice line to it. Stoning for adultery,this will thin out the community. A thief your right hand is cut off. A women gets raped, to bad, she needs to find 3 man to rat out another man that he did it. What does the women get for the act, she get stoned to death because it was her fault. To avoid being killed she has to marry the rapist. You are gay, dead, just dead. Do something really bad like convert to Christianity well you get beheaded for that. The Slavery excuse, har-de-har-har, in Islam slavery is perfectly OK. Bearded religious police walking the 'hood will beat you with sticks if you are out of line. So much better then CPD thuggery, right? Oh yes no booze, no smoking, no drugs, no music, women have zero rights, etc, etc, etc. No contact cards, or any other paper work. Did I mention Honor Killings? The best part; the Flem-Flam black Christian preachers of racism loose big time, and the ACLU....gone.
I think it is racist that a black neighborhood like Englewood, which covers an approximately 22-block by 20-block area, has at least 20 two-man cars working there every afternoon, yet a white neighborhood like Garfield Ridge has only one two-man car covering the same geographic area. Often people in the white neighborhood won't call the police because the police won't respond for hours.
Isn't it against federal law to have practices that discriminate based on race? All those black people in Englewood are being stopped in far greater numbers than in their white counterpart neighborhood. Take half of those officers in Englewood and put them in Garfield Ridge. The positive result will be less black people being stopped and arrested. They will have less contact with the police. And there will probably be just as many street stops on the white people to even out the numbers.
Start putting the same amount of officers in white neighborhoods as they do in black neighborhoods. That is the only way to be fair. That's what everyone wants, right?
Right??
The statement of let's have the officers who look like the community police it is a racist comment. Why doesn't anyone bring that up as they report this stuff. They preach diversity and respecting everyone, but they don't want another race in their community. That is the reason why the city is so segregated. Every community wants to keep its identity and the residents do not want others who don't look like them moving in. Just look at Logan Square and Pilsen, the people who lived there do not want the yuppies moving in
Empty barrels make the most noise, and always have!
............or it could be called "Ignorance on Display". Preckwinkle's "Car-jacking is a minor property crime". Is she being driven around in a limo with security? Does she know what a new car costs these days? And she wants to run the State's Attorney' Office!
SCC you are awesome. I cannot articulate my words as you do. Yesterday when I was watching this on the news I was getting so angry yelling at the TV. I even woke up my baby and my wife yelled at me. I am sure the great civil rights leaders that gave their lives for making this country equal would be devastated in segregated safe zones on campus and now segregated police zones. I take offense in being called a racist. My parents never raised me that way. Thank God for the ACLU and their recommendations!! No more questionable stops. Crime is up but it has nothing to do with less stops. That is a great statement made by the ACLU. Any cop that is being proactive need to have his head examined. Thank you SCC.
Amazing
white Van Dyke shoots/kills a black offender with a knife and is being crucified
black officer shoots/kills unarmed black passenger after terminated car pursuit
black officer shoots/kills unarmed black person at red line station
black officer shoots/kills unarmed motorist after car pursuit
white Van Dyke is awaiting murder trial and was given 1.5 million dollar bond
not lambasting the black officers or their circumstances but I will point out this, none of them were charged with murder or given a large bond, there are two sets of standards here
we want black officers in our community! so you want segregation?
sixty years ago "separate but equal" was questioned and eventually found unconstitutional
it was really separate but unequal, and I believe that those who fought it truly fought it because that wanted integration and equality
now I suspect that they want separate but equal, or separate and more
According to the law, Van Dyke was justified in the use of lethal force to stop a deranged armed offender. He did stop him as he had a duty to, and prevented further mayhem and potentially lethal attacks by the deranged armed offender. Dummycrats, liberals and ghetto residents will be in shock and awe at the verdict.
Lest we forget the LGBT communities!
Are there racist cops? Are there racists in your community?
Everyone has preferences about who they prefer to associate with because they are more familiar with them.
Are there white racists? Sure
Are there black racists? Absolutely. (But we are not allowed to talk about that)
If you get right down to it: EVERYONE IS RACIST TO SOME DEGREE.
Tho all deny it
F the 10 hours
So does little girls...you know what I mean former officer.
A former Chicago police officer told the task force race matters, saying: "What you need is people who look like you to work in your community,"
A scholarly study published in April 2000 in the professional journal Economic
Inquiry found that aggressive “affirmative action” hiring raised crime rates in
many parts of the U.S. In careful statistical analysis of 1987-1993 U.S.
Department of Justice data from hundreds of cities, economist John Lott (then of
the Yale School of Law, now a resident scholar at the American Enterprise
Institute) found that quotas requiring more black and minority police officers
clearly increase crime rates.
https://www.aei.org/publication/how-racial-p-c-corrupted-the-lapd/print/
I'm a white Chicago Police Officer and I work in a predominately black community. I have arrested people for killing other black people, I arrested those for sexually assaulting black people, I arrested those for robbing black people, I arrested those for burglarizing black people's property, I have chased people down dark alleys, gang ways, through yards and through abandoned houses and apartment buildings. I can confidently say 99% of those I arrested for these crimes were other black people committing these atrocities towards their own people/community. I will be more then happy to police MY OWN community and finally get a break after 12 years. I have never been the subject of more racism then when I started working in a black community nor have I ever seen a race of people who were more racist toward white's, asians, hispanics and middle easterner's then the black community that I work in. I truly believe they hate themselves, this is a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black.
And blacks can go to black schools while whites go to white schools. We can have black hoods and white hoods. That's called segregation. That's fine. Where do I sign up?
Today's sneed has a column about how lori lightfoot will be superintendent, but johnny will run the department and lori will make all "the decisions!" ahh where is charlie "I gots $350.00 per hour lotto winner at? It is getting progressively worse! Have they had any police accountability meetings on the west end of 008,022,016? No they only have them where thugs and black violence is so over the top to bastardize the police! rahm what kind of leader are you? With the state about to take over your and daleys failed public schools where you have literally thrown billions down the hole,be a man rahm (If you can be) hang you head,have the 50 follow you with resignation notices in hand your finished! Then reading more your looking to skyrocket taxes again for the public schools are you insane? You closed 54 schools but yet are spending our money to build, hope that the state dose a forensic audit on city finances how many elected will be jumpsuits quickly?
rahm your criminal friend hillary won in Iowa on a "coin toss" pathetic the way your ilk steal and keep on with the massive thefts!
I looked at the site for this bunch.
None of the hearing are on either the Northwest or Southwest sides.
The tax paying middle class has been cut out of any decision making or comment process. And for this, we get a huge tax increase!
Why would Dean do anything? Hasn't stood up for us yet. Guy at the last meeting talked about Dean and FOP not speaking against the Investigatory Stop Reports. Sounded like they dropped the ball again!
Did anyone hear about Dean blowing up at the Board of Directors meeting the other day. Wasn't too happy about stuff leaking out at the board meetings.
I see Sneed is crowning Lori Lightfoot as our next Supe. I love it! She was the former head of OPS, which became IPRA. What was her "sustained" rate for beefs against coppers when she was in charge?
I posted the following on the ABC 7 site and they removed it
track and punish officers accused of wrongdoing - what about due process?
fire cops who lie - How about the city council & the city administration - should they be fired too?
diversify the department - fine - as long as everyone passes the sale selection process
Oh yes, and Deval Patrick (http://www.bostonherald.com/ne... who used public funds for:
The list of Patrick’s expenses includes:
Almost $17,000 in airfare on a single trade mission to Israel;
$8,342 bill for flights for a three-day trip to Colombia in 2013,
which also boasted a $21,141 hotel bill that was simply charged to a
credit card;
A round-trip flight to Ireland costing $5,751, plus $2,400 more for three days at the five-star Merrion Hotel;
$12,356 for a five-day trade mission to France, Denmark, and England;
$1,640 for a one-way flight from Hong Kong to Singapore
This forum is laughable
Anonymous said...
Commander Evan's rank and race didn't do him much good, did it?
They don't see race, they just see Poleece. Can't do shit with the poleece around.
2/03/2016 01:40:00 AM
What planet are you living on pal? If Glenn Evans was white all hell would have broken loose. If Glen Evans was white then after being acquitted he would be charged with the catch all federal charge of civil rights violation. He got a pass from the black community because he was black. Yes, they do see race. All the time and every single time.
Anonymous said...
FETAL! Learn it, live it, be it, do it.
2/03/2016 12:45:00 AM
Can we please stop with this nonsense of "stay fetal", "be fetal", etc. Because when you say that you are giving credibility to Rahm Emanuel. Mayor Emanuel said police officers are in a fetal position and not doing their jobs. Is that what you want the public to conclude?
Rather we should just state: we are following the rules, laws and general orders the department is telling us to follow. Period. We indeed are doing our jobs in the best manner we can.
just another example of people either reusing, or being unable, to accept any personal responsibility for themselves or their lives.....it's the fault of everyone, but themselves...so, maybe the 911 system should be programmed to direct calls for serice to the local ACLU office; hey, they have all of the answers let them get into a car and ride to the rescue!......and, by the way, is there anyone doing Stay Fetal! shirts and caps?
They're all innocent .... just clowning and playing and the racist police done executed them.
The below links are a must read for the comments alone and supporting police officers. Ironically Yahoo articles.
Police Officers PLEASE see how much you are supported by the vast majority.
Many of the comments are reminiscent of what we see here on SCC. Thank you SCC for the truth and dedication to what really goes on in Chicago. Thank you to the men and women in blue for all you do!
http://news.yahoo.com/police-chicago-homicides-climbed-dramatically-january-1601http:/
/news.yahoo.com/chicago-sees-january-murder-surge-emanuels-poll-numbers-140548344.htm49415.html
To the unpublished "brainiac"
Listen here dumbass - the list of offenses being committed was to point out how inane and insane it is for the "community" to be holding up this criminal as some sort of "hero" because he managed to meet his end at the hands of the police.
In no way, shape, or form did we equate property damage with Deadly Force, but even your dumbassery knew that, correct? It was just a convenient hook to hang your hat on in an effort to demonstrate how stupid you actually are. Well done.
(1) Holding a knife and (2)refusing to drop the knife is a clear-cut Deadly Force situation in every Department we know of...what happens after that is based solely on the actions of the person with the knife.
So crawl back into your hole lib-tard. Build your straw man somewhere else and make your "equivalent" arguments to other morons down at the student union.
Thank you SCC! I was yelling at the TV this morning when I saw the news clip. "prove it"!
anyone else see the delicious irony of the head of the "Just Us" department being named Lynch?
The next move by the aclu will be to require that you be a resident of the city to receive a pension check. Just in the interest of fairness, of course.
I worked in the old CC room in the mid 80's. I would occasionally get calls from residents in black communities specifically asking for the "white police.". I have had callers also request that we not send "them little bitches either." I wish I had tapes of those calls.
Yeah I am black and I don't wanna work in a black neighborhood
11:39 am this is what the racist activists , local , state , federal politicians all know . But it will not get them elected , so the dummycrats receive crumbs from the table of aldercreatures , state and federal politicians and vote democratic .
not the smartest people in the world .
to many people of color in jail , don't tell that to the next victim of sexual assault , robbery , wilding , theft from lakeview , mag miles stores
that one beat car on patrol in Garfield ridge is often used to respond to leclaire courts , no protection in Garfield ridge for the tax payer
According to the law, Van Dyke was justified in the use of lethal force to stop a deranged armed offender. He did stop him as he had a duty to, and prevented further mayhem and potentially lethal attacks by the deranged armed offender. Dummycrats, liberals and ghetto residents will be in shock and awe at the verdict.
If you truly believe that Van Dyke is going to walk away out of a courtroom like Servin did, you're an idiot. Van Dyke will never convince any judge or jury (although he will never request a jury trial) that his life was threatened. Anyone thinking otherwise has their head up their ass.
ProblemSolver said...
And blacks can go to black schools while whites go to white schools. We can have black hoods and white hoods. That's called segregation. That's fine. Where do I sign up?
2/03/2016 11:42:00 AM
Well, the next step should be that all of the tax money paid by whites only go to white communities and all of the tax money raised in the black community should only go to their communities : schools, infrastructure, police etc. Now wouldn't that be interesting?
I am not a police officer but I have to say you really nailed it on this one. I sympathize with you people for all the bullshit you have to put up with. There are a lot of people like me out there I just wish that more people could see your comments about the stupidity out there.
Anonymous said...
If you have a prior you should not be allowed in the room. Run them at the door.
2/03/2016 05:06:00 AM
If you did that you might make a lot of warrant arrests. LOL
The process is in motion to remove all those who have a Rule 14 in their history. IPRA will leave it to the state board to be the bad guy and decertify those who have the sustained violations.
Guess po's aren't writing isr's. Supervisors came in to explain "just put these things in and the ACLU won't come after you." How about I do nothing at all! As far as I'm concerned the commanders guys can do them.
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The "equivalency" argument moonbats use turns on the Godzilla mode in me. This is the same argument these clowns use to explain away Islamic atrocities by saying this is no different then Christianity. Yes maybe so a thousand years ago. This is nothing more then another way for these butt munches to avoid personal responsibility. Well thanks to this kind of thinking I am taking active responsibility for my personal protection. Thank God for friends like Colt, Smith&Wesson, CZ, Walter, Ruger, Taurus, etc.
"Diversity is a noble goal, but at what cost? Lowering the standards across the board? Overlooking some unsavory backgrounds? Dumbing down tests? Promoting the criminally incompetent? The Chicago Police Department already does that and more."
Well said, SCC, and I agree 100%. How else would the likes of Alfonza Wysinger rise (without the benefit of passing even ONE promotional exam) to his own personal level of incompetence?
Ok, I heard it on the radio this morning and wondered why it took so long for the stupid to chime in? The news reader was reporting that maybe Laurie Lightfoot could be considered as the new Superintendent. Sneed according to the reader writes that contrary to popular opinion, the Superintendent does not necessarily need to have police experience. I guess supidity knows no boundaries in Chicago. This is exactly the kind of decision making that ended badly in Detroit. Hire people for positions in which they have no experience and expect a successful outcome. But then look at the house where Sneed works. She is living proof that that a) you need not be a journalist in order to have a newspaper column and b) in the case of the Sun Times, you need not have ownership that knows anything about running a newspaper. Hey Sneed, how is that business model working for the Sun Times?
2/03/2016 06:10:00 AM
Since the day McCarthy was fired, many of us have commented that Lori Lightfoot could be named the next superintendent. What took Sneed so long to catch on? Doesn't it seem that Rahm has been grooming Lori for this position for quite some time now? He appointed her head of the police board many months ago. This gives her some insight into how the board and disciplinary action works. He named her head of the task force to find a superintendent. This gives her the opportunity to attend community meetings and gain some insight into what the people want and feel about police, as well as communicate with other law enforcement persons and get their input on what they think cpd needs. Add this to Lori's background of being the head of OPS, working in the mayor's office at city hall, being a US attorney working with federal and local law enforcement and prosecuting criminal cases,and defending a white cop pro bono against a false accusation and winning the case. All of this experience put into a little black female lesbian with a brain and calm demeanor = Rahm's vision of the best candidate for superintendent who could possibly save his ass from all the public hatred.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ok, I heard it on the radio this morning and wondered why it took so long for the stupid to chime in? The news reader was reporting that maybe Laurie Lightfoot could be considered as the new Superintendent. Sneed according to the reader writes that contrary to popular opinion, the Superintendent does not necessarily need to have police experience. I guess supidity knows no boundaries in Chicago. This is exactly the kind of decision making that ended badly in Detroit. Hire people for positions in which they have no experience and expect a successful outcome. But then look at the house where Sneed works. She is living proof that that a) you need not be a journalist in order to have a newspaper column and b) in the case of the Sun Times, you need not have ownership that knows anything about running a newspaper. Hey Sneed, how is that business model working for the Sun Times?
2/03/2016 06:10:00 AM
Lightfoot said it's not happening. (In an interview right after the Sneed blurb, two days ago)
They complain because that's that's the only thing that gets them goodies.
"(1) Holding a knife and (2)refusing to drop the knife is a clear-cut Deadly Force situation in every Department we know of...what happens after that is based solely on the actions of the person with the knife. "
https://www.facebook.com/AHigherKnowledge/videos/819057811574349
Is one of the meetings going to be held in the 41st Ward?
SCC you hit it right on the head about who works where. Let's take it further, and do the same with property tax dollars.
Let's keep the tax dollars in the communities where they are paid. And while were at it let's keep our students in the communities they live in.
I think the community has something.
Black cops working in the black ghetto? Lol, good luck with that, ANYONE with 2 years on this job will tell you even they don't want to be there. 😂😂
Why doesn't Dean and other FOP board memebers address the police board. We are the ones that are going to be most effected by the new supt.
For a "community" that hates and distrusts the police so much they sure do call for the police an awful lot.
Maybe they should stop calling if they don't like what they see when the police respond.
SCC OT
Is it true that new interm super is moving to fire Lt Walsh for filing false reports during Koschman vs Vananko case
How about forming a Chicago Family & Criminal Accountability Task Force to put the onus on the folks causing the all the trouble the police have to respond to.
The common street thug is NEVER accountable for their crimes. Never.
Revolving courtroom doors and absolutely no punishment.
If the Chicago Police Accountability Task Force wants to recommend anything to the OB-DOJ, first have them grow a set and then blame the community for bringing out the worst in every person they come in contact with.
Hey CPATF, treat the disease and not the symptom.
Blaming the police for the placebo pill that didn't cure the cancer doesn't make things right.
Now your mayor is thinking of appointing a civilian Superintendent and that is total quackery.
That's what's wrong with the Department, is the pathetic politically appointed management no matter who or where they come from.
It's really US against THEM.
Stay alert, watch out for the boogeyman.
Do a whole lot of nothing and make every 1st & 16 th count.
OT
But great read SCC
The four officers cornered Meyers in what amounted to a game of kill or be killed. In this instance, 32 police bullets tore through Meyers - ending a wasted life.
This was the first time, but not the last time Detective Walsh has been involved in a shooting incident. He is not afraid of the inherent danger of working a crime ridden district where Walsh and fellow members of the Violent Crimes unit investigated 210 homicides last year. "I prefer to work in places like that. I like the action," he said.
Detective Walsh, a Northwest Sider who graduated from Lane Tech High School, has received four Department Commendations, a Life Saving Award, and a Department Commendation from the Minneapolis, Minnesota P.D., since coming on the job June 16, 1986. He added another trophy to his growing list of honors recently, by being named the Emerald Society Police Officer of the Year for 1997 for his part in hunting down Archie Meyers.
Walsh, a member of the Emerald Society of Illinois for the past 10 years, comes from one of the most famous police families in the city. His dad, John J. Walsh commanded the 13th District for 13 years and was a Deputy Chief at Area 6 before retiring in 1992 after logging 36 years on the job. His wife Kathleen is raising four children while presently on leave from the Chicago Police Department's 24th District. Denis' brother Michael is a sergeant in Eleven. His father-in-law Russell Weingart is assigned to the 20th District.
That's quite a police legacy for one family, but Denis says that the inspiration to become a law enforcement officer was his own. "Dad did not adamantly encourage it, but when you come from this kind of background it makes sense," he said.
His goals in life are simple, but one frequently voiced by thousands of Chicago Police officers who have worked the streets for 10 or more years. "Getting my police pension and putting my kids through college - that's all that I really hope to accomplish from all this."
Denis Walsh is way too humble when he talks about himself. But he has achieved far more than what he is willing to give himself credit for, and will likely continue to do so if his career up to this point is any indication.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-cops-tied-to-fatal-koschman-case-involving-daley-nephew-fired-suspended-20160203-story.html
Johnny suspended koschman coppers will the Feds now go after conveniently retired police bosses?
I've been told many times in 007 that they want to speak to a black officer instead of me. Sure! Just let my commander know and I would have no problem leaving! 19P!
According to the law, Van Dyke was justified in the use of lethal force to stop a deranged armed offender. He did stop him as he had a duty to, and prevented further mayhem and potentially lethal attacks by the deranged armed offender. Dummycrats, liberals and ghetto residents will be in shock and awe at the verdict.
Spot on!
To "yours truly, SA"
We're assuming you aren't a cop. We don't have to admit anything, and if you read through all of our writings, you'll see we venture ZERO opinion on certain aspects of this case. We point out the attempts to deny Due Process, the Rights of the Accused trampled in the name political expediency, the rush to judgement by everyone under the sun, but we aren't required to admit anything.
The process has to work and it has to work fully for all involved parties. We'll condemn when there's something to condemn, but as of this moment, we don't know anything about what's coming up at a trial...and neither do you. But we will bet you a toothpick, here and now, that the primary charge in this case never sticks.
So we'll be deleting your comment for the inflammatory language contained within, but we do so only after having explained what is and isn't going on here in order to expand your viewpoint.
To "ET"
Because no one cares.
And Rule #5 in the right hand margin. Try reading it.
This garbage is nothing new. Back in the mid 80s Commander George Samms wanted the same thing for 003 District. He made no attempt to hide the fact that he wanted all Officers in 003 to be black. As a result most of the veteran white Officers transferred out if they could. The only white Officers that were left (maybe 10 to 15% of the Officers assigned there) were rookies sent there out of the academy and those that didn't have enough time to bid out. The district remained a shit hole and still is today and from what I remember the black Officers were much more brutal to blacks thugs than any of the white Officers working there. Stay safe Officers no matter what race you are.
Ret.177
Good luck finding black officers who only want to police their own!
While there is a strong valid argument that Van Dyke was legally justified in what he did and you believe that there will be hellstorm when he is acquitted.
I wish I could believe that will happen.
The public will agitate for a jury trial. Jury selection will be an ordeal. And the jury outcome will depend on the racial makeup of the jury.
All-white jury:he walks. City burns
All black jury: he goes to jail for ever. White people P&M but nothing else
Mixed jury: mistrial after mistrial after mistrial
Bench trial: No judge is going to take the hellstorm for acquitting him. He wouldn't live a week after that.
Rahm is hoping to be gone when the trial starts.
The real failing in this is the media's terrible coverage of the incident. All they say is "16 shots" and " the reports don't match the video". Which Carol Marin admits she hasn't fully read and has no intention of doing so.
SCC, I'm a little disappointed in you. Three SCC rebuttals to unpublished posters, and not one "asshat" in the bunch!! A couple of "dumbass"'s , a libtard, and a moron, but not the "asshat". Please, allow me...
ASSHAT
ASSHAT
ASSHAT
And may even a "masters, masters, masters" for good measure.
Ok then does that mean that every business should only have employees that deal with the public be the same as the community which they serve. So no minorities work outside of the minority neighborhood. Lets bring that to the teachers union too. Only Black teachers in black neighborhoods?.......Mailmen? Only white mailmen can bring the mail to a white occupied house........And these idiots want to progress back to tribes. WTF this is devoid of any thought
What do you mean you want a black police officer in a black community?... I'm actually a more off white color...a new race I shall prevail. Oh...and when I'm at the ATM in district 6. 7. Or 8 like Chris Rock said... I'm not looking over my shoulder for the media...or a white man...
If the community believes the police are the problem, then pull all police from that neighborhood. According to these community folks, crime will disappear.
Stupid is as stupid does.
OT
But great read SCC
The four officers cornered Meyers in what amounted to a game of kill or be killed. In this instance, 32 police bullets tore through Meyers - ending a wasted life.
This was the first time, but not the last time Detective Walsh has been involved in a shooting incident. He is not afraid of the inherent danger of working a crime ridden district where Walsh and fellow members of the Violent Crimes unit investigated 210 homicides last year. "I prefer to work in places like that. I like the action," he said.
Detective Walsh, a Northwest Sider who graduated from Lane Tech High School, has received four Department Commendations, a Life Saving Award, and a Department Commendation from the Minneapolis, Minnesota P.D., since coming on the job June 16, 1986. He added another trophy to his growing list of honors recently, by being named the Emerald Society Police Officer of the Year for 1997 for his part in hunting down Archie Meyers.
Walsh, a member of the Emerald Society of Illinois for the past 10 years, comes from one of the most famous police families in the city. His dad, John J. Walsh commanded the 13th District for 13 years and was a Deputy Chief at Area 6 before retiring in 1992 after logging 36 years on the job. His wife Kathleen is raising four children while presently on leave from the Chicago Police Department's 24th District. Denis' brother Michael is a sergeant in Eleven. His father-in-law Russell Weingart is assigned to the 20th District.
That's quite a police legacy for one family, but Denis says that the inspiration to become a law enforcement officer was his own. "Dad did not adamantly encourage it, but when you come from this kind of background it makes sense," he said.
His goals in life are simple, but one frequently voiced by thousands of Chicago Police officers who have worked the streets for 10 or more years. "Getting my police pension and putting my kids through college - that's all that I really hope to accomplish from all this."
Denis Walsh is way too humble when he talks about himself. But he has achieved far more than what he is willing to give himself credit for, and will likely continue to do so if his career up to this point is any indication.
2/03/2016 09:43:00 PM
And that does not even come close to describing how dedicated he has been to this city and its citizens. I've worked for him and he never attempted to lead an investigation astray. The facts were the facts and he made sure the investigation was conducted that way!
"..... Add this to Lori's background..."....like Claypool and Guberman and Keating and Charlie Williams and Arne Duncan.....their background is a series of insider connected high paying/high profile posts across a number of varied agencies----its who you know- not how much you know (unless you know a lot and are good at keeping secrets)
Anonymous said...
"If Jason Van Dyke went to jail that would scare some of these policeman from just gunning our innocent grandkids down," ----said the 35 year old grandmother.....
"If Jason Van Dyke went to jail that would scare some of these policeman from just gunning our innocent grandkids down," another attendee said.
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Grandkids? So mom & dad didn't show up? You see the problem here?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Diversity is a noble goal, but at what cost? Lowering the standards across the board? Overlooking some unsavory backgrounds? Dumbing down tests? Promoting the criminally incompetent? The Chicago Police Department already does that and more."
Well said, SCC, and I agree 100%. How else would the likes of Alfonza Wysinger rise (without the benefit of passing even ONE promotional exam) to his own personal level of incompetence?
2/03/2016 05:19:00 PM
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seconded, and here's a good article by Tucker Carlson about the same topic
http://search.proquest.com/openview/5ad42940e25af0793753a0c66e9c77d3/1?pq-origsite=gscholar
According to the law, Van Dyke was justified in the use of lethal force to stop a deranged armed offender. He did stop him as he had a duty to, and prevented further mayhem and potentially lethal attacks by the deranged armed offender. Dummycrats, liberals and ghetto residents will be in shock and awe at the verdict.
Spot on!
You sir are correct.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ok, I heard it on the radio this morning and wondered why it took so long for the stupid to chime in? The news reader was reporting that maybe Laurie Lightfoot could be considered as the new Superintendent. Sneed according to the reader writes that contrary to popular opinion, the Superintendent does not necessarily need to have police experience. I guess supidity knows no boundaries in Chicago. This is exactly the kind of decision making that ended badly in Detroit. Hire people for positions in which they have no experience and expect a successful outcome. But then look at the house where Sneed works. She is living proof that that a) you need not be a journalist in order to have a newspaper column and b) in the case of the Sun Times, you need not have ownership that knows anything about running a newspaper. Hey Sneed, how is that business model working for the Sun Times?
2/03/2016 06:10:00 AM
Lightfoot said it's not happening. (In an interview right after the Sneed blurb, two days ago)
...............
We have been lied to before.....
2/03/2016 05:31:00 PM
Big question , was rahm and the city council , blck caucus justified in using $4,900,000 of taxpayer money to hush up a police shooting before election day ?
Anonymous said...
"..... Add this to Lori's background..."....like Claypool and Guberman and Keating and Charlie Williams and Arne Duncan.....their background is a series of insider connected high paying/high profile posts across a number of varied agencies----its who you know- not how much you know (unless you know a lot and are good at keeping secrets)
2/04/2016 06:54:00 AM
You mean she did not do it on her own?
Has anyone heard about the ex copper who's alwys chastising the police on these meeting was actually a dirty cop from 015 Who work with the g after he got caught dirty and was an intregal part in putting Pac man and his crew away in order to save his ass
"But we will bet you a toothpick, here and now, that the primary charge in this case never sticks."
Because Van Dyke fired *16* shots into the kid, I'll take that bet.
Sincerely,
SA
PS, I like my toothpicks cinnamon flavored...
Anonymous said...
2/03/2016 11:53:00 PM
“… the reports don't match the video". Which Carol Marin admits she hasn't fully read and has no intention of doing so.”
If anyone knows which pages in the 395 pp. report contradict what Marin etc. have said about it, they’d be of great interest!
Must be a meeting to discuss the 100 plus trillion in unfunded liabilities from the U.S. debt and the extremely high unemployment rate. Its all CPDs fault. CPD needs to be in the front page to cover up real problems. Social science works wonders for the economy. Now it is being utilized for fighting crime and the only criminals are the police. hmmmm so interesting. I can not believe people have graduate school degrees making this nonsense up lmao.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I worked in the old CC room in the mid 80's. I would occasionally get calls from residents in black communities specifically asking for the "white police.". I have had callers also request that we not send "them little bitches either." I wish I had tapes of those calls.
2/03/2016 02:34:00 PM
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Never went on an Ivory Tower run without stopping on the way to get a box of donuts to bring up the my zone dispatchers. Maybe it was you who were on the receiving end. Those donuts were worth their weight in gold. Ah, memories.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
According to the law, Van Dyke was justified in the use of lethal force to stop a deranged armed offender. He did stop him as he had a duty to, and prevented further mayhem and potentially lethal attacks by the deranged armed offender. Dummycrats, liberals and ghetto residents will be in shock and awe at the verdict.
If you truly believe that Van Dyke is going to walk away out of a courtroom like Servin did, you're an idiot. Van Dyke will never convince any judge or jury (although he will never request a jury trial) that his life was threatened. Anyone thinking otherwise has their head up their ass.
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Uh, he doesn't have to have his life in danger to make it a justified shoot. A berserk nut case running around with a knife and doing irrational things with it actually puts other citizens life in possible danger. Maybe not at that instant but one minute later it could have been Joe Blow who had that knife pressed against his throat. You are obviously not the police.
2/03/2016 03:28:00 PM
They call the police so much bc get this, this is what an 0115th Dist citizen said" bc to them you represent the parental responsibility they disnt have, because in the end your talking to them and not hitting them or abandoning them, and because you solve what ever problem they called you for because they didn't have responsible adults in their lives that can solve the problems for them, wether you want to believe it or not, you are as close as they'll ever get to having a functional family (not verbatim)....WOW
Going after coppers and throwing them under the bus is all a distraction away from billion dollar corporations laundering money and committing fraud and not seeing a day in jail because of politics. Look back and Google some high profile agency's and there investors and connect the dots and their money trails and one can only wonder why and how aren't these People not in prison, it's a bigger Web then what we think and the sun times put it best police are political pawns...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Commander Evan's rank and race didn't do him much good, did it?
They don't see race, they just see Poleece. Can't do shit with the poleece around.
2/03/2016 01:40:00 AM
What planet are you living on pal? If Glenn Evans was white all hell would have broken loose. If Glen Evans was white then after being acquitted he would be charged with the catch all federal charge of civil rights violation. He got a pass from the black community because he was black. Yes, they do see race. All the time and every single time.
2/03/2016 01:03:00 PM
the states attorneys does see race. They prosecuted at least four black cops in the last few years all of whom beat the case.
If you didnt go to GE's trial, you need to grab a transcript and read it.
Highlights
States attorney made the gangbanger change his testimony
states attorney was called out by a cop accused them of falsifying his official report'
states attorney allowed so called victim, and three ipra personnel to lie and falsify reports and perjure themselves, and took no action
Lead states attorney Freeman lied and falsified reports and is still working as an ASA
victim lied, admitted suing GE for 5 million ( number sounds familiar?).
GE or other officers never identified by so called victim
dna evidence experts were destroyed in court
most of the legit citizens in the places he worked loved him, the shitheads not so much.
It would be interesting to see if they send this case to the feds, I know if GE goes down, the states attorney, IPRA and the complainant will and should take the hit as well.
Retired two years ago after 31 years on the job. FINALLY got promoted to detective in my 18th year (and that was only because the damn list was up for almost 7 years) and finished out my career with 13 years as a homicide detective. In all the years on the job I can only recall ONE crime where a white person was the offender and a black person was the victim, and it was just a stupid drunken bar fight. I investigated hundreds of black on black murders and I cannot remember one iota of outrage over any of them, so in the spirit of entrepreneurship I am starting my own clothing line, starting with baseball hats and T-shirts with the slogan: Black Lives Matter, But Only When They're Killed By Police Officers.
I'm thinking $24.99 for the hats and $29.99 for the T-Shirts. What do you think? Is the price too high or too low?
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