Koschman Lt Quits
- Lt. Denis Walsh has resigned from the Chicago Police Department one week after interim Supt. John Escalante moved to fire him over his role in the 2011 reinvestigation of David Koschman’s killing — a case that was closed without charges against a nephew of then-Mayor Richard M. Daley.
Walsh’s resignation ends the disciplinary case that Escalante filed against him with the Chicago Police Board, which decides punishments for cops.
So as all the big-wigs escape investigation and retire to nice pensions, the ones left without a chair are looking at a year off with no pay. Seems completely fair.
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posted by SCC at 12:33 AM
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Either way it's fucked up
Way off topic from left field. Anyone else notice that on the show Chicago PD that ALL the offenders are white? Strange. Almost as if they make black people offenders on tv then they will be viewed as racists... So they just make white people all criminals... Cool, I guess.....
Did he retire in good standing. i.e. retirement star and ID.
I couldn't give a shit less about what happens to those left holding the chair. Termination and imprisonment would be fine with me.
Denis will land a nice job somewhere else. No tears will be shed for Lil Sammy. Once again, the detective gets screwed for doing his job while the politicos were wheelin' and dealin' behind his back.
Since when can you just retire with an open investigation???? That seems completely odd. What if he was in fact proven guilty of misconduct in the investigation.... Then no pension....... However now you say if you catch wind of an investigation coming down the pipe you can just up and put papers in to escape said investigation. Wow. Only in Chicago.
Interesting indeed. It took the feds coming in here and really sniffing around this department to get rid of Andrews, Salemme and now Walsh. Why didn't McCarthy ask for all of their resignations? Was he simply told to 'leave them alone?' If so, by whom?
Yet another disgraceful chapter in our once-proud dept. comes to a shameful close. It just never ends.
Get over it Chicago! Really???!!! Look at your murder rate! According to the ACLU they probably had NO legal standing to talk to him! Without a victim ID we cant stop anyone!?!? So why the Anonymous text line!!!??? Lol this city is a f-ing JOKE! Watch your own neighborhood and brothers in blue!
Now, here's a question someone in HR can possibly answer: Are all of these stinking rats who are running out of 3510 following the Koschman scandal and subsequent federal investigation/Inspector General recommendations for firing/long suspensions receiving their 'retired' IDs as they leave the building? Technically, since they are all still 'under investigation,' they should not be leaving with a retired ID (or even a retired star) until the investigation has been officially closed.
Will they all receive the 'retired in good standing' letter which allows them to apply for IROCC concealed carry? Can anyone answer that one from HR as well?
Like him or not, DW helped a lot of policemen over his 29 years on the job. Now he's retired with no star or retirement identification. That's complete bullshit.
Too bad the CPD is not like the military. Wouldn't it be nice to call them back from retirement to be punished for the crimes they did on the job?
Don't worry about DW, He'll land in a bed of roses like all the Gold Star's kids ..... He always has
will his status be "resigned while under Investigation"? Or "Honorably retired" No HR 218 for the former
Nothing to see here, just move on.
Ignore the stench.
Twelve stinking years.
I hope Vanecko was worth it.
Play stupid games.
Win stupider prizes...
We still say R.J. Vanecko took the lick for his look-alike,
balloon headed cousin Patrick "Son of Crime King Shorty" Daley...
Walsh is small fry compared to Dean Andrews and company who all managed to
drop papers and parachute safely into retirement before this flaming shit-plane
punched a big crater in the ground with Walsh handcuffed to the controls.
Serves him right.
Hoping Mrs. Koschman can still get in all these dirty bastards pockets
and ruin them all.
If this case was played so straight, why is everybody involved running
away from it like their hair is on fire and their hind parts are catching?
>POOMPF!<
"Ohshitgottarunlater!"
Just too much off-stage fuckery and game playing...
Shortshanks, the ringleader, continues on completely unscathed.
Still collecting his 3 public pensions, still getting his armed butlers, still having access to city cars.... that's fair right??
That the only two holding the bag are from the lower echelon should come as a surprise to no one. Shit always rolls downhill.
Let's hope Feds take up this civil rights violation case and go after him and retired gold star club members how about just for koschman rahm? Johnny make it happen investigators reporters start the fallen star series everyday with this connected group! If it was lowly blue shirt everyday we would be pummeled!
resinged, or resinged for retirement?
He was a nice guy and a good boss....but seriously flawed. He made the best choice.
I chose not to dance with the Devil. It seems to have worked out OK for me. I like the guy I see in the mirror and my kids and extended family will never be embarrassed when my name is brought up.
Criminal Sexual Conduct? Well that covers a lot of territory. You know, I've noticed that people tend to get in a lot of trouble when they're on vacation.
He swore he wouldn't retire until he found the St Valentines Day Massacre files. Sometimes you have a lot of clutter in your basement.
It's the Chicago way. Now he'll get a juicy private security gig making even more money. The CPD takes care of only certain ones of its own. The rest are let to wallow in misery in the two sided punishment of the CPD. The clouted and taken care of and the rest of us who are made the example, and labeled trouble makers for trying to speak out.
It is a sad day when a police officer loses his job. At least he will go off with his pension and I would be willing to bet, end up in some type of cherry job. That said, I would also bet there are plenty of people who will defend this entire mess despite the evidence. It seems a lot of people have added " bar fight" into the Illinois Criminal Code under "Justifiable Homicide".
And Little Richie the garden gnome just smiles.
Now what city job will Walsh land?
Wonder if he'll land some sweet spot from a Daley connection?
He will be a commish in streets and scams
Very well qualified teamsters all the way
Let get it right.
Caught on camera touching and licking a gas station attendent in michigan.
charged with felony which was down graded to misdemeanor, after victim was paid
off and disappeared.
Comes back after 30 suspension and assigned to supervise Detective unit.
where he makes false statements and removes murder files to his home.
Now it takes a few years and Interim Superintendent to request termination.
Guess Mc Jersey was to busy covering up other things to pay attention to the small
details.....
IAD must be afraid of the guy or his juice.
If this was a blue shirt officer, his ass would have been stripped back when Michigan act happen. With a termination.
Cline protected his ass then got launched himself.
Does anyone else see the BS this department goes to when protecting the chosen
few?
One N won't be able to legally carry, as he resigned under investigation.
I have no confidence in city IG office to start with
but this shows why there is no confidence in any investigation
coming thru IAD or IPRA.
If the accused is connected to city hall or Headquarters, they are untouchable.
If you doubt it just ask why was this goofy guy not fired to begin with, let alone
put in charge of a detective group? Where he then gets caught lying and hiding documents.
But when any officer get a CR they strip and transfer him till he is terminated.
and this is for on duty acts not off duty crap. Selective investigations?
One "N" only ever looked out for number one, himself, and now others who bought into his act unfortunately have to pay. Too bad Webb couldn't figure out that he was the Whitey Bulger of the CPD and gets to walk away unscathed. Not enough to charge him my ass..pathetic moron.
He resigned under investigation and therefore under HR 218 retiree carry conceal he doesn't qualify to carry.
Denis was offered a job as a bobby by McPoppins. The two are going to London for some pints and fish and chips.
Oh too bad for Walsh ego maniac.
One must always remember where one is on the food chain. The big fish almost always escape. The minnows get eaten whole. One can always refuse to be involved, sure you might get bounced. But you'll get less pucker factor.
"So as all the big-wigs escape investigation and retire to nice pensions, the ones left without a chair are looking at a year off with no pay. Seems completely fair."
When you run with the Big Dogs sometimes you get bit. They're young and resilient, chalk it up as a valuable lesson learned.
Whoa John anything to say about this? silence! typical! Another big fish swims away,wonder where he will turn up with another 6 figure job! Maybe he can hook up with Daley who cannot testify but Daley took a big job with the guys who he gave our parking meter contracts to! Really feel sorry for Mrs. Koschman her kid killed, daley inc. felon flees like the cowards they are, then gets 6 months in a club location in jail all done correct!
Lets look at if it was our family member same situation as Vanecko, bet prison, bet civil suit (lose everything), media the goudie crew all over it it is fair! What ever happened to the 60 million of our pension money given freely to daley/vanecko realty and all lost why are the media crew and feds not looking into who gave away our pension money which is severely underfunded? When is rahm making that $500 million payment? taxes were raised already where is the money, show us the money sir!
Now, if the acting supt was to act against the bosses involved in signing off on any part of the McDonald investigation...........it could eventually reach 9/12 digits 'bout the time that NoBama leaves office.
David Koschman was unavailable for comment.
He'll have a soft landing. Don't feel sorry for him.
So as all the big-wigs escape investigation and retire to nice pensions, the ones left without a chair are looking at a year off with no pay. Seems completely fair.
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That is what such underlings are for. It is a good bet he will get taken care of if he goes along.
Hillary is now maneuvering to get some of her aides indicted and plead guilty in her email scandal as a way to close that chapter in her sordid life.
Way off topic from left field. Anyone else notice that on the show Chicago PD that ALL the offenders are white? Strange. Almost as if they make black people offenders on tv then they will be viewed as racists... So they just make white people all criminals... Cool, I guess.....
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It is a TV show about fictional people and fictional events. it is all made up. it is not real.
TV almost never reflects reality. That would be boring and no one would watch such a show.
Did anyone notice that both the wife and daughter-in-law, Pamela Gillespie and Alexandra Gillespie, of the lawyer who handled Vanecko in the line up, Terry Gillespie, got made cook county judge??? Nice payoff.
Why do I think there will be a big job opening soon at McCormick Place?
Lol, Chicago pd show does chase around a lot of white offenders! Not a big fan of the show, but I have noticed that. How many times do you bring down a gang of polish painters or Chinatown gangsters? So realistic! God forbid you disappoint 1 black viewer.
Does anyone know if this Lt Walsh is related to Daley's best buddies in Walsh construction?
OT --
Heard Escalante has been out on street, helped grab some guys in two incidents. Good for him.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Way off topic from left field. Anyone else notice that on the show Chicago PD that ALL the offenders are white? Strange. Almost as if they make black people offenders on tv then they will be viewed as racists... So they just make white people all criminals... Cool, I guess.....
2/12/2016 12:51:00 AM
#PerpsSoWhite
Is crazy when does it stop............................
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I heard the pension payment was made,is that true or not!
Hope it was worth it guys for protecting a fucking Daley. If they are federally convicted of a felony in the course of their duties, they can say goodbye to their pensions.
Poor 1 n my ass. I know plenty 52 year olds that would be very happy with 90,000 a year.
Fantastic boss and a fantastic investigator. CPD is worse without him. He was at the front of the investigation and worked tirelessly to get Officer Cliff Lewis's murderers charged. You want to crucify him? Go ahead. But at least give some credit where credit
Is due. The man did a lot of good over the course of 30 years. It shouldn't be tossed aside.
The only one I feel sorry for is Mrs. Koschman. She lost her son. The police involved in the cover up will get their pensions none the less. I know I could not sleep at night knowing I was part of saving Vanecko who merely got a slap on the wrist and served 60 days in jail.
Funny I thought you can't retire with an open CR???
unless this is a case of the famous confidential CR's that only exempts and clouted can receive.
No FOIA because no investigation happened! And no criminal charges either classy...
don't leave, things were just starting to get fun........
i hope you rot in hell for the BS stunt you pulled, and all the other hacks who played a part.
rip david
Former Mayor Daley still can't recall anything about this incident.
Like him or not, DW helped a lot of policemen over his 29 years on the job. Now he's retired with no star or retirement identification. That's complete bullshit.
2/12/2016 01:19:00 AM
Do you understand that the statement you just made about DW is exactly why he is being fired? Helped = covered for.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Like him or not, DW helped a lot of policemen over his 29 years on the job. Now he's retired with no star or retirement identification. That's complete bullshit.
2/12/2016 01:19:00 AM
I agree, Denis was a stand up guy and there are more than a few coppers who stepped in shit who owe him bigtime. From one who knows.
Denis will land a job with Garry Poppins and Tracy over at Rick Simon's "shop". It's either that or Levy, or possibly one of the many other connected landing spots.
Anyone else fancy a guess?
Was it worth it turd? You sold your soul to the Daley clan. Live with it. The indictment is just around the corner. ENJOY!
Hope all the bosses go to jail! why would you cover for Daley?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I chose not to dance with the Devil. It seems to have worked out OK for me. I like the guy I see in the mirror and my kids and extended family will never be embarrassed when my name is brought up.
2/12/2016 05:54:00 AM
Ok, great. Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Now, if the acting supt was to act against the bosses involved in signing off on any part of the McDonald investigation...........it could eventually reach 9/12 digits 'bout the time that NoBama leaves office.
2/12/2016 11:21:00 AM
Sorry, but the dramas are all running together. Didn't Escalante himself sign off on some of the McDonald investigation?
One of the most arrogant assholes who ever graced this job. So long, One N. And take that smug smile with you.
Like him or not, DW helped a lot of policemen over his 29 years on the job. Now he's retired with no star or retirement identification. That's complete bullshit.
I agree DW was a good cop. Anyone that is pleased (especially a cop) that he had to quit is a jagoff.
Keep your head high DW. God Bless you and yours in your time of trouble.
It's okay everyone. The corruption, cover ups and treachery will continue when the Lt's graduate the academy. C.Papa will be the new Walsh. Wysinger's wife and Williams people will confine to do the bidding of the crooked politicians. So relax.
Anonymous said...
Like him or not, DW helped a lot of policemen over his 29 years on the job. Now he's retired with no star or retirement identification. That's complete bullshit.
2/12/2016 01:19:00 AM
Yes indeed he helped many policemen including policemen who should have been charged with felonies and fired. Ever see the pictures of the six-year-old beaten by a psychopath Pipes and Drummer? Should have been locked-up immediately. Guess who obstructed that one?????
Do not feel sorry for those who did nothing but put their fellow brother's in blue in jeopardy because they, Salemme , Andrews, Yomishiroya, Cirone and yes Spanks were all sharpening their own pencils. The only one not looking for something.....other than the vast amount of overtime was Gilger. C I rone be and Spankthose were looking for promotions while following one N all the way to the top. Many conversations were overheard about future plans and positions. One N was suppose to get Central before Roy did but too much heat at that time. Saleme went from 5 to 606 to south In a matter of weeks.musical chairs to say the least. C.I rone and Spankthose deserve more than what was offered. How are those plans that were made at the Sperm club now boys. Yes this private little place exists ask all of the Close Quarter Crew as they liked to be known as. Thanks for hurting the D unit and Those who you put through the ringer for your own selfish reasons.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Way off topic from left field. Anyone else notice that on the show Chicago PD that ALL the offenders are white? Strange. Almost as if they make black people offenders on tv then they will be viewed as racists... So they just make white people all criminals... Cool, I guess.....
2/12/2016 12:51:00 AM
And you admit to watching that shit show.
Lt Walsh is related to Daley's best buddies in Walsh construction?
No relation
They should reopen the SOS scandle and look at all the bosses that got off Scott free as well as all the officers involved. How come Finnegan is the only one that went to prison for that whole corrupt scandle?
What I can't understand is why you all are like the rest of the public??? You believe this was a police led cover up???? This comes from WAYYYY above the CPD and what is a lowly LT in comparison. No one talks about Daley or the ones who made the obvious calls to protect this nephew of his. Everyone takes the fall and Daley sits unscathed. You guys are like everyone else...MISSING THE REAL ISSUE
Had the pleasure of working with Denis in the early 2000's. Absolutely knew what he was doing and went out of his way to help coppers out. Not "covering" things up, but making sure stuff they did wouldn't put them in the target sites of police haters like Lovey & Lovey. Show me a cop that never made a mistake and I'll show you a liar. Yeah ... Denis screwed up right at the time they were looking for fall guys so he has to take his medicine. But this in no way negates the rest of his career which made me and many others who worked with him, proud to have shared that time with him. Best wishes to you, Denis.
Sorry, but the dramas are all running together. Didn't Escalante himself sign off on some of the McDonald investigation?
2/12/2016 08:43:00 PM
Yes, he did.
Anonymous said...
Lol, Chicago pd show does chase around a lot of white offenders! Not a big fan of the show, but I have noticed that. How many times do you bring down a gang of polish painters or Chinatown gangsters? So realistic! God forbid you disappoint 1 black viewer.
2/12/2016 01:17:00 PM
This is Hollywood affirmative action and political correctness. Real like has way too many black and brown criminals so things have to balance out. I can imagine if they ever do a scene of Cook County Jail, all of the inmates and guards will be white.
Denis, Denis , Denis. Shame on you. They didn't help you THIS time. They all retired like bitches. Left you hanging hard. You play with snakes and eventually you get bit.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They should reopen the SOS scandle and look at all the bosses that got off Scott free as well as all the officers involved. How come Finnegan is the only one that went to prison for that whole corrupt scandle?
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Check again dummy. About 20 coppers lost their jobs and at least 8 did prison time. Six months to 2 years each, but all for felony time. Try getting gainful employment with that on your record.
I don't care what the law says. If you slug a guy and he goes down and hits his head on a curb, then the curb killed him, or God killed him, or the laws of physics killed him. But Vanecko didn't kill him. What Vanecko did was worse than that, morally if not technically. What Vanecko did was disgusting. Even if Koschman hadn't died, Vanecko should have gone to jail for hitting a guy he outweighed by 70 or 80 pounds. That was the essential crime, and it should be written up that way in the books.
Back to being a mall cop @ ford city.
I will day this; he was on a job I had years ago, a suicide investigation, and he was good, a big help.
Still many big bosses who escaped punishment from Sos Scandal, And Austin 8 , And others. It's always that way.
Wish someone would list the ASAs involved in the Koschman investigation. They deserve to be punished too. Was Alexandra Gillespie the only one?
To all of you saying that Walsh was a nice guy, helped officers, knew his stuff. Stop drinking the coolaid. He is a stone cold jack off that treated people like shit. Sure, he did some superficial good deeds to promote a certain image but it was meaningless bs. Overcompensating for his many flaws. For every cop he took care of there are ten he fucked over. And it's true. He helped out cops, complete scumbags, that should be fired or in prison. How does that make him a good guy? As far as knowledge, he fucked up serious investigations because of his arrogant know it all attitude. Power corrupted Walsh to the point of delusions of grandeur. The only people that support him are the incompetent hacks that he surrounded himself with. Stop stroking his ego he's done already. Good riddance.
As a supervisor Walsh had a responsibility to look out for all the people under him. Walsh had a duty and responsibility to ensure the well-being of the Sgts and detectives in the Koschman, and unfortunately, other investigations under his command. He failed to do so, clouded by his own agendas.
And even today, rotten lil Richie Daley has a a police car at his service 24/7. Yeah, we know!
And even today, rotten lil Richie Daley has a a police car at his service 24/7. Yeah, we know!
Re. SOS and jail time??? Check RC, EH (12 years) and JL (17 years, dumbass left his DNA at the scene by tossing a cig butt in the garage). That was the late nineties, before Finnegan and company!
Not retiring in good standing. No hr218 conceal carry. No free health insurance. No University of Chicago scholarship. The media will hound him if he gets any City, County, or State job. He will have to go to some clout heavy non government position. My bet is maybe one of the clouted University's will hire him so he can get free tuition and medical.
Spankthose and CIrone were complaining that they will now just have to wait a year longer to get promoted. Can you believe the nuts on these two. I first felt sorry for Spankthose but after hearing this but fcuk him too. Him crying about having all those kids and a wife who doesn't work is his problem. Many two income families out there working to make ends meet. He was living high off the hog with all that O.T. and now he is crying future poor. That's it I'm done! No way am I paying for a benefit party no matter what the lieutenants or captain or commander say or threaten. I'm sticking to my morals. You played dirty to get promoted.....then buy your own soap to wash your arse.
Anonymous said...
Had the pleasure of working with Denis in the early 2000's. Absolutely knew what he was doing and went out of his way to help coppers out. Not "covering" things up, but making sure stuff they did wouldn't put them in the target sites of police haters like Lovey & Lovey. Show me a cop that never made a mistake and I'll show you a liar. Yeah ... Denis screwed up right at the time they were looking for fall guys so he has to take his medicine. But this in no way negates the rest of his career which made me and many others who worked with him, proud to have shared that time with him. Best wishes to you, Denis.
2/13/2016 09:39:00 AM
Agree with above. I've never seen anything like I have in the last 10 years on this job with people hating those that step on their dicks, or get promoted, or have a better gig than they do in the Department. It's like some people now take a certain "glee" in seeing other coppers in trouble.
Spankthose and CIrone were complaining that they will now just have to wait a year longer to get promoted. Can you believe the nuts on these two. I first felt sorry for Spankthose but after hearing this but fcuk him too. Him crying about having all those kids and a wife who doesn't work is his problem. Many two income families out there working to make ends meet. He was living high off the hog with all that O.T. and now he is crying future poor. That's it I'm done! No way am I paying for a benefit party no matter what the lieutenants or captain or commander say or threaten. I'm sticking to my morals. You played dirty to get promoted.....then buy your own soap to wash your arse.
2/15/2016 07:18:00 AM
Dude you are very angry. You need to chill.
Walsh is like leporld he is in trouble old timers would always say, made two many waves, too much heat was made. He rolled the dice snake eyes, got love those bones, to many ghosts,
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