Where Are All the Cars?
In the suburbs we're told - Bensenville:
Literally, dozens and dozens of squads. Probably all waiting for cameras or something. Or maybe a hiring wave so there are coppers to drive them.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:35 AM
82 Comments:
Are those our contractually-negotiated vehicles?! God, I'm glad Dean and Co. were there for us!
Or maybe the city hasn't paid for them yet ....
Bought for list price
Will they leave enough room for me to take my shoes off and recline? I'll be needing that while remaining fetal.
How about some PDTs? Half of the cars in the district have missing PDTs. No one cares, no one keeps track of it, they just magicaly dissapear. Just make sure park car get a good car so they can bring that hot lunch for the front desk. It's not like beat car has anything important to do during their tour.
From comments on this very blog, CPD coppers tend to trash and abuse their squads. If they can't be trusted to take care of the cities property, treat it gently and keep it neat and clean, than maybe they should not have squads. Some of the squads I have had to use have been totally trashed.
I'm so glad we bargained for these.....
More vehicles not bought in the city! Drive down I-88 by 355 hundreds of new state police vehicles just sitting, copper told me some were still brand new 2013 models why are they sitting? In our case are the CPD squad sitting waiting for goober from fleet to install old equipment that is somebody's cousin that will fail quickly?
For C****t sake get them out to the districts. No should be driving those coffins also known as Tahoes anymore.
Send at least a dozen to us ETs please. Every car I've sat my ass in here has from 110k to 160k miles. Not to mention every associated wear and tear issue that most high mileage squad cars have (too many to list here). Not trying to say other places don't have cars as shitty as us, but we're driving expressways all day every day all over this city and oftentimes out to the suburbs too. Yea I know, down the car if it isn't safe. Been there done that, all MM does is quick bandaid fixes. SOS!!! Send Our Squadcars!!!!
Why doesn't the city buy cars and other stuff from business located in the city?
No qualified auto dealers in Crook County, or the city of Chicago? They use a dealer in DuPage County. Was this part of the O'Hare land grab?
Why don't they have a real company wire in the various camera and PDT systems instead of motor maint.?
I thought Daley had Bensenville bulldozed for that O'Hare runway.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
They have all been paid for, correct?
Stop buying these fuckin' things. ZERO legroom. Feels like a coffin.
Who owns the dealership?
Looks like they need lights and plates still. So maybe 2 more years.
Wow, like so many of us even the city is shopping in the burbs now. Bensenville isn't even in the same county, Dupage I do believe.
how about we use them and trade in our Ford Crown Vics that have over 300,000 miles on them. Gee... they can make money on them and sell them to Taxi drivers
Decals are quick and easy. Those need lights and everything else. Takes time.
Bensenville. O'Hare expansion. Bensenville dealership lot full of new CPD cars and few other new cars Nothing to see here.
Or the city to pay for them.
Larry roesch Chevrolet da da da da da da. Nobody really knows the rest of the words
And before everyone starts with the usual bullshit about the city buying the cars in the suburbs because of the sales tax, SHUT UP!. Municipal purchases are tax free. Wherever they make the purchase, they pay NO tax. So don't even start that stupid rant.
Maybe they all got repossessed.
This dealership Ford has the contract to deliver the cars.
They store them there and send them on one car carrier at a time.
A lot of the larger department do the same thing, since they don't have the storage space.
In addition, sometimes they order extras which are on hand for any government customer who needs extra cars.
By the way, they are very nice people to deal with.
Nah, probably waiting for the City to pay.
Guess they do the work there so we don't have to pay the city's sale tax.
SCC you are making it to hard for the media they will never be able to find the place...
put the address in so Lazy chuck Ghoudie can send his camera flunky to get video.
May be Old looking Mary ann "A" hurn can do a piece on secret police station in the burbs that only uses new cars!!!
Had a doozy of a tahoe the other day 149,000 miles and that was still considered one of the better ones :)
Still got that CAPS crap on 'em...
These hatch back soccer mom squads are a disgrace and a continuation of the de-balling of anything manly in America . They hold up to police work like a wet city approved brown bag. I will gladly keep my crown vic with 150, 000 proud miles
Most squads are used 24/7/365. You have good size men and woman in and out of these vehicles wearing lots of gear, the vehicles get beat up plain and simple. They are left running while on scenes completing paper work etc. Vehicles are not made to withstand that kind of heavey use. Especially with all the added electrical equipment lights on top, added lights front and back , computers and now dash cam video. And they wonder why thery're having electrical problems with the vehicles. The cars should be cleaned more often but seriously how many city approved car washes are left? And most districts literally don't have an hour to wash the cars, Let alone fill up. It's typical city politics where the garages don't have enough personnel nor the proper facilities to maintain the fleet.
Anonymous said...
Who owns the dealership?
2/17/2016 06:49:00 AM
Joey Bagodonuts. He's partners with the Vanecko brothers. Service Manager is Denis W. Silent partner is Richie Daley.
Hi:
These cars have been here since 2014. I bring my personal car there for service and have always seen them there. It's not a brain twister, it's where they're ordered. At least the City saves some money on tax as this is Dupage county.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Decals are quick and easy. Those need lights and everything else. Takes time.
2/17/2016 07:45:00 AM
After the last fiasco where fleet goofs installed equipment and we had so many electrical problems, Ford developed a "total equipment program" you buy the vehicle then at the factory using proper plug and play technology (Modern) the manufacturer installs everything and it is warranted and done correctly, But the city lets the so called mechanics lol, in fleet take off junk equipment and butcher the wiring ti install on new vehicles! How about the idiot there that installed the computers under the car mats and they got wet shorted out systems!
As far as the asshat on this thread talking about the city sales tax not being due, no it is not but why couldn't the city purchase these vehicles from a dealer such as Kingdom Chevy in the city thereby allowing a taxpaying dealership to make a little and give jobs to more city workers? Hello rahm=fail, the 50 what say you? Investigative reporters have at it!
Not coming to the streets. vehicles will have decals/lights etc removed, to be resold to pay for cameras and tasers.
Quit your bitching. This is what you negotiated for in your last contract, nothing says they will ever see the streets of Chicago. You'll have to negotiate for that in your next contract,Suckers!
It's been said for years. If your car is to dangerous to drive... down it for repairs. You don't have to put nor should you put your life in danger... Stay safe
every car in the detective division has over 130,000 miles on it and we dont get pool cars when ours go down not to mention how many outside units come and borrow our cars and then tear them up...
Is Larry Roesch a minority?
Or a woman?
Nicky Nicky Nicky Nicky
Nicky Chevrolet
With the backward K
Hey!
Are those the Cars We Were Promised Per Our CONTRACT!!!! What Say Ye FOP?????? Crickets......
From comments on this very blog, CPD coppers tend to trash and abuse their squads. If they can't be trusted to take care of the cities property, treat it gently and keep it neat and clean, than maybe they should not have squads. Some of the squads I have had to use have been totally trashed.
2/17/2016 01:38:00 AM
Yes, mother.
My wife's SUV is 10 years old and has 160,000 miles. It looks and drives like brand new. Why? Because we take care of it and maintain it. Why can't the city do the same?
Oh look brand new cars so more PO's can drive them like shit, not maintain them, and leave them dirty as hell full of bed bugs and roaches. "it ain't mine I don't give a...." Hence why we can't ever have nice things!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How about some PDTs? Half of the cars in the district have missing PDTs. No one cares, no one keeps track of it, they just magicaly dissapear. Just make sure park car get a good car so they can bring that hot lunch for the front desk. It's not like beat car has anything important to do during their tour.
2/17/2016 01:12:00 AM
They couldn't care less about PDT's.
Their sole focus right now is all about dash cams, body cams and synced microphones...... all to appease "the community"
At least they are at a great dealership. Roesch is good. Golf Mill will take your eyes out?
Waiting to go to up fitter for lights. Fleet hasn't installed emergency equipment in ten years. Cameras too.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Send at least a dozen to us ETs please. Every car I've sat my ass in here has from 110k to 160k miles. Not to mention every associated wear and tear issue that most high mileage squad cars have (too many to list here). Not trying to say other places don't have cars as shitty as us, but we're driving expressways all day every day all over this city and oftentimes out to the suburbs too. Yea I know, down the car if it isn't safe. Been there done that, all MM does is quick bandaid fixes. SOS!!! Send Our Squadcars!!!!
The mileage isn't the issue with most of these cars. It's everything else: tires, brakes, shocks/struts, alignment, lack of AC, bad/no PDTs, worn/missing weatherstripping = leaks, mold and odor, idiot lights on all the time, bad wiper blades, etc, etc. Seriously, I've driven go karts that ride better. Our cars suck as a whole
the city is always low balling the maintenance on the squad, plus you got guys who trash them soon as they get them...
Ford had recalls for various issues with Explorers. Oddly, warranty work is usually done quickly because it's paid by Ford directly.
Unless the dealership is swamped with private vehicles, expect the city to get some second class service.
MMD Fleet doesn't push the dealer in getting recalls back anyway, they only know where the vehicle was sent.
But mostly CPD Fleet Div dollies at HQ are inept, they don't know anything about what happens to our vehicles.
If a downs a car for r-service, it's up to the district to find out why they're not getting them back.
District XO's need to be on top of this and getting these vehicles back in service.
It's that simple.
Really, after all it's not "ISR science".
10:05 am
Thanks Larry R. employee for your input
Yeah There probably waiting for the FBI hidin Cameras and Mics to be installed too .
I'll be buying a Video and Audio Sweeper before I get into them before Every shift
STAY FETAL
I know patrol should always be first to get new squads, but you have 3 detectives assumed to 1 car on the same watch. If all three dets have to conduct follow up investigations they have to carpool. Then if one of these relics breaks down the area garage will not give the d unit a pool car while the shit box is being repaired.
2/17/2016 09:03:00 AM And before everyone starts with the usual bullshit about the city buying the cars in the suburbs because of the sales tax, SHUT UP!. Municipal purchases are tax free. Wherever they make the purchase, they pay NO tax. So don't even start that stupid rant.
C'mon Rahm, can't you take a joke?
They make them on the south side of Chicago. They are now in a suburb by O'Hare. Wow. Plenty of empty lots on the west side of Chicago. Keep them there. LOL!!!
And before everyone starts with the usual bullshit about the city buying the cars in the suburbs because of the sales tax, SHUT UP!. Municipal purchases are tax free. Wherever they make the purchase, they pay NO tax. So don't even start that stupid rant.
2/17/2016 09:03:00 AM
To me, the problem isn't paying sales tax, its the fact/illusion (whatever it really is), that we have to buy city stickers, pay 15% more every year for water, water tax that can cost more than the bottled water itself, $4.00/mo. 911 fee, etc,etc etc; and then having the feeling that car dealers in the city cant compete for city business, because they can't make enough. Whether the truth or not, it stinks of impropriety. Kind of like the city leasing vehicles from Indiana.
They're sitting there waiting for the Black Lives Matter decals the 9 1/2 Fingered Midget ordered.
Those are just CPD Uber vehicles for bosses to get driven around in by future Sgts and Dets
As a supervisor that used to care about the cars I gave up. Not able to get officers to call for r service. Asking toget a car wash and them not bothering. Making sure at one time every car had a working pdt and watching as they all got switched around or disappeared. If you don't care about your car why should i? I always take my car for a wash and keep it clean and maintained. If you all did the same your day would go much easier.
Those cars are for VRI... They're installing Netflix on the PDTs so officers working OT won't use up their cell phone data or ruin their laptops
As a supervisor that used to care about the cars I gave up. Not able to get officers to call for r service. Asking toget a car wash and them not bothering. Making sure at one time every car had a working pdt and watching as they all got switched around or disappeared. If you don't care about your car why should i? I always take my car for a wash and keep it clean and maintained. If you all did the same your day would go much easier.
2/17/2016 11:46:00 PM
Hey Sgt, be happy you made it by merit and relax. Your grammar is atrocious. Your sentence structure is that of a five year old.
Get a car wash? Sarge, are you crazy? You sure do ask for a lot. I remember walking through the parking lot, past a car and hearing the motor knocking. I asked the driver if he checked the oil which of course he had not. I told him to shut the motor off and we checked the oil. Lo and behold there was no oil in the motor or only a quart or two. Happened more than once. I guess the prevailing idea is "if it ain't mine I ain't taking care of it" even if the amount of work required of me is minimal. Or the how about the cars with the steering wheels all cut up? How did that happen? Manufacturer defect,lol?
I never understood guys that don't take care of their cars or at least even wash them once in a while. It's your office for the day. You are getting paid while the car is being washed and the car wash is free to you. Why would you NOT go and get it washed a couple of times a week?
To those wondering why they're bought at certain dealers...The State has a contract with certain dealers to sell them in bulk. We (suburban PD) get ours from somewhere in the south suburbs. I think the contract rotates to different dealers to spread the wealth.
I say sell them all and get every officer a bicycle, who needs a car- we can't chase anymore so we don't need lights/ sirens- since we not arresting people anymore so just buy 1 wagon for every district for the food run for the desk personnel
You can keep your brand new squad with plate readers and cameras and microphones. Give me a beater squad with working heat and air and that's all I need. Just need it to drive to the hole to lunch and back to the hole.
To the above sergeant who says he gave up. You must be a weak ass person. Do your job and tell them once t o get cars washed and gassed. If you have a decent rep with them they will do it. If not step in thier stuff. You are the supervisor and order them. Yes it is pimp but they will get it. Don't get on this blog and say that you gave up. Shame on you. I was in a unit with many cars. When I said the cars needed a wash my guys did it.
Not a cop. My buddy got disqualified from the pool of new candidates because he admitted to taking an adderal one time. Thats tough. Hes done worse and admitted it all in the questionnaire. I might just skip the test. It is paid for though. Too bad i dont have any clout.
Anonymous said...
Who owns the dealership
Im going to take a shot in the dark detective, and say Larry Roesch
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Last I heard was that Triangle Fabrication in the Stock Yards was wiring these things up. Used to be strictly welding and fabrication with several municipal municipal contacts. Minority owner's son expanded the company into installing emergency lighting a few years ago.
Actually, the Sgt. is correct. The actual patrolmen who USE the squads have to give a rat's ass about preventive maintenance!
NO one is going to call in the blown out headlight or taillight bulbs, or any other part of YOUR squad that isn't working! Take some pride (and initiative) in what you drive!
Here is the place 1 block from the Ford Chicago Torrence plat vehicles are completely done, by factory type technicians done correctly not like the butchers at fleet "Hi I'm somebody's cousin" club!
https://www.hendonpub.com/police_fleet_manager/articles/2015/0102/ford_s_chicago_modification_center
These vehicles are ready for patrol in 36 hours after coming off assembly line done correctly, done right! How many thousands could we save on future electrical problems caused by fleet people with no proper knowledge?
Deez Nutz said...
Anonymous said...
Who owns the dealership
Im going to take a shot in the dark detective, and say Larry Roesch
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2/18/2016 10:23:00 AM
http://www.roeschford.com/dealership/staff.htm
Ed Burke also owns it, not that Ed Burke but maybe family LOL!
To the above sergeant who says he gave up. You must be a weak ass person. Do your job and tell them once t o get cars washed and gassed. If you have a decent rep with them they will do it. If not step in thier stuff. You are the supervisor and order them. Yes it is pimp but they will get it. Don't get on this blog and say that you gave up. Shame on you. I was in a unit with many cars. When I said the cars needed a wash my guys did it.
Well in the scheme of things in a ghetto district with one supervisor on the street easier said then done. And first spar for not doing it that sgt is all over this blog for
being an asshole. You pick and choose your battles.
When should I pick up my new ride? My take home car for asset forfeiture must have 35k miles on it, total bullshit. What if I get called out in the middle of the night to count money? I need a decent ride right? A new leased car would be better. Why should narcotics and vice get all the nice cars, they never get called to come out and count money in the middle of the night. Sure it never has happened yet, but it could.
I say let Grand Spaulding Dodge do the up fit.
Anonymous Deez Nutz said...
Anonymous said...
Who owns the dealership
Im going to take a shot in the dark detective, and say Larry Roesch
D
2/18/2016 10:23:00 AM
I think you hit the bullseye. Good job!
Ford had recalls for various issues with Explorers. Oddly, warranty work is usually done quickly because it's paid by Ford directly.
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My experience is that warranty work is a little slower, because it is not paid at book time, but rather almost (but not quite) the amount of time it actually takes to get the job done. Service manager can give these jobs out when there's not enough book time jobs to go around to keep everyone busy. Now maybe municipal contracts are a little different......
Yet, my beat car has over 150000 miles on it!
With a camera that will NOT work!
With a computer running on Windows XP!
What can go wrong in the streets?
Buehler?!
There are no Chicago police vehicles at Roesch Ford in Bensenville. I work there. Is this a joke?
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