A Suggestion for Readers
From our e-mail, from someone who knows the system:
- SCC?..please ask your readers to get themselves an account so they can file witness slips to oppose these screwed up anti police bills put forward in Springfield. Its easy as hell. Any time a bad gun rights bill comes up, Illinois Carry sends out an urgent request to file witness slips either opposing or supporting bills. Here is a link for people to create an account. Once you log in and find the bill or amendment you can file a witness slip. Time to start organizing the troops to stop some of this shit.
Seems pretty straightforward. We don't think you actually have to appear in Springfield - the Witness slip is your "appearance." But it lets Springfield know that you're following something closely, and the more witnesses, the more weight that is given to their consideration.
At least, in theory. A bought politician is probably going to stay bought. But others, not so much.
At least, in theory. A bought politician is probably going to stay bought. But others, not so much.
Labels: state politics
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
29 Comments:
I hate to say it but I think that most of the politicians at the federal level are either bribed or black mailed . Most of the senior state level too.the political parties farm these guys from the school board level like hastert.they seek out flawed individuals who can be controlled . The party system is Fubar .
Isn't that what we pay FOP dues for? To pay a lobbist's salary? Who the heck is the lobbist? But thanks for the info, good post.
Thanks,for,posting this SCC. When these jackasses know they are being watched closely...sometimes the heat is too much for them. Police need to speak up from now on. The slips are easy. Surprised someone at your FOP hasnt told the troops to do this. In fact, your FOP should be monitoring all bill that are anti police and put out a Call to Action for these slips when needed. Time to fight back as best you can.
As I mentioned, my wife is related to 3 politicians in cook county, an alder-drone, state senator, and another I don't care to mention his position cause you will know who he is. But anyways, I asked he to call one of these assholes and why he was a lead guy on this bullshit, basically his answer was "the ball is rolling, and I am getting on it-- to reelection." The crazy thing is, he has a bunch of relatives who work in law enforcement.
Done!
Now someone list all those fools with stupid bills against the police.
I never heard of that before. Thanks.
The Illinois State Rifle Association and IllinoisCarry.com have used the witness slip system rather effectively when both opposing and supporting legislation on the 2nd Amendment front. This is a great suggestion, but it works better when the bill's identifiers (HB xxxx, SB xxx) are available in the item.
As the original post indicates. We nay not be able to change the bought and paid for politicians in Cook/Chicago, BUT, there are some downstate that aren't. This is a way to show them our opinion(s) and maybe get them to see things our way. Click whether you support or oppose the bill. Just remember, if you chose to add a written statement, be factual and to the point.
As Trump says, "It's a rigged system"! Good Luck talkin 2 those assholes!
I have done this on a regular basis for the past couple of years. I believe it can really affect how the Pols vote.
Just a comment, this only applies to Illinois State bills, not Federal. Contain the insanity in the state and it will help get the point across nationally.
The FOP needs to hire a qualified public relations firm. Every time some nitwit politician or reverend jump on TV and spew their hatred of the Police, go right back at them....EVERY TIME. Take over the airwaves with the proper information of an incident. Thats one of the only ways to stop this shit.!!!
If you set up an account for yourself for doing witness slips and then log in when you want to fill out slip(s), your personal info will already appear in the witness slip form. All you need to do is click your position, record of appearance only, and submit. Three clicks and you're done. If you hunt around a little you can find a spot to click that will show you the slip totals for a given bill.
The only time witness slips matter is when a bill is being considered by a House or Senate committee. Once the bill is scheduled slips can be submitted up till the time the committee considers it. Once it's out of committee slips can no longer be submitted. The time window isn't usually very long so you need to stay on top of things.
Join up I did. It can't hurt and can only help. We really don't exercise our political muscle like we could and should . Tell everyone you know of a like mind
SCC,
In a perfect world FOP would monitor bills in the GA and provide bulletins, witness slip links, advice whether to support or oppose and when to do it. Fat chance of that happening.
Any chance this is something you could pick up? Or partner with Hey Jackass? Or thinking broader, is there a way to get the word to cops statewide with this information?
Finished. It takes two minutes to do, and gives you a voice. Let's see how many coppers can be bothered to participate in the government they bitch about when it screws them.
OK, created an account, how the hell do I do one of the witness slips now??
Witness slips work people!
We can show support or lack of support when these crap bills are being hammered out in committee
the good folks at Illinois carry have been successful in squashing bills this way, that never see the light of day in the general assembly.
SSC supports Illinois carry, and we support you men and women in blue right back!
take care,
Illinois carry member.
I've done plenty of these back in the day when I wasn't a P.O. can you post though which bills they are if I remember correctly when I used to do these the politicals would hide bills under different names so they can't be easily picked out and would have to be read in order to know which one they are. I know of one right now that Toni Preckwinkle is trying to push a bill for her department to have a police force with police powers.
This is an article from the scum times "A bill introduced in the state capitol on March 8 would create a new county police force answering to Preckwinkle. Senate Bill 3076 would give police powers to members of the homeland security department. Under the legislation, the agency would have authority to grant “peace officers’ duties and compensation” to its employees."
Someone at FOP should be in CHARGe of monitoring any anti OR pro Police bills and when they come out of comitte for vote ,this person should send out a MASS email to ALL FOP members to fill out a Witness Slip to oppose or support. Remember, if these politicians finally see that Police VOTE and see that you are involved they will soon realize that they cannot do as they please. You have power. Use it. And starting with these slips you can have a huge impact going forward. But it has to be a mass effort on someones behalf to track these bad or good bills and send out notices to get slips in. They do this very very well at Illinois Carry. Just check out their Illinois Politics sub-forum to see how well this works.
And we pay FlOP for what????
Looking at the list of sponsors on that bill, I would not assume they are bought and will stay bought. An honest politician stays bought. These are mostly "reformers" who think their good intentions are a license for rampant political dishonesty.
Just a Civilian (who has the misfortune to live in Steans' district)
Someone in the FOP needs to log in to Illinoiscarry.com and check out the OUTSTANDING job that member Mauserme does on monitoring bills in the ILGA. He is super effective at monitoring 2A bills and does this as a volunteer. Surely there is a paid FOP staffer or a CPD officer on disability that can do this too. It's not rocket science, just takes a bit of time and attention.
At the beginning of the ILGA session there is a call put out for volunteers to monitor new bills being filed.
Illinos Carry has it down to a science and filing notices when the bills are still in committee and before they reach the floor works.
It lets the scumbag politicians in Speingfield know someone is watching and cares.
Please do not vote for Kim Foxx in November. She is a puppet of Preckwinkle who hates the police. Desperate mayor with a gutless Superintendent means no one, absolutely no one will stand between you and some trumped up charges brought by a newly elected State's Attorney trying to implement her "social justice" agenda. Be very afraid.
FOP, get someone to monitor these bills and send out calls for action and witness slips. Dont let this die SCC.
And yet we'll have cops on here who wont bother, but will bitch about it on here. smh
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The FOP needs to hire a qualified public relations firm. Every time some nitwit politician or reverend jump on TV and spew their hatred of the Police, go right back at them....EVERY TIME. Take over the airwaves with the proper information of an incident. Thats one of the only ways to stop this shit.!!!
4/26/2016 09:22:00 AM
What happened to the FOP spokesman? I thought he did a good job of getting out the truth about Police involved incidents and educating the news media about being in fear for your and others life and safety, etc...
Let me guess, someone's someone wanted his spot so he was gone! Fuck the good job he did! Or were they just jealous of his tan? ;+)
"OK, created an account, how the hell do I do one of the witness slips now??"
http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=32865
This'll get you started. It helps if someone (like Mauserme on IllinoisCarry) tracks the House or Senate bill numbers and provides a synopsis of what they propose to do and why they should be supported or not. Once you have a bill number, you also need to know what committee it's been assigned to and when it's scheduled to be heard by that committee. With this information you can eventually click your way through to finding a "file witness slip" button."
But it's a lot faster and easier if someone does the prep work for you and provides a single link that goes straight to the necessary witness slip page.
Yes, the politicians are slime. Back in January 2015 John Cullerton sponsored a bill that supposedly made a minor change to an act that dealt with how Illinois handles low-level radioactive waste. The change was to remove the word "and" and replace it with the word "and." I'm not making this up.
For over a year the bill sat idle. A few weeks ago it was reactivated by one of Culletron's Democrat tools with an Amendment 1. If you searched the ILGA pages for info on this bill you'd still find the original bill about radioactive waste. You needed to be smart enough to know that you should find and click Amendment 1 to discover that the amendment had nothing to to with radioactivity and everything to do with FOID cards.
These are the kind of games the conniving bastards running state government play all the time.
I sure hope someone takes the lead on this. They FEAR the voters being aware of their con jobs. Illinois Carry and ISR are masters of the Witness Slips.
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