Well, Fuck You Very Much
- Perhaps surprisingly, the deadliest jurisdiction is patrolled by the least experienced officers. Seasoned and better-connected officers tend to work the safer neighborhoods on the North, Northwest and Southwest sides. This is the result of an unusual “bidding” system negotiated by the police union in 1980, which allows officers to use their seniority to claim shifts with better hours or in low-crime neighborhoods.
Approached at a police-community meeting, the commander of the 11th, Deputy Chief James Jones, acknowledged that the deployment of the least experienced cops in the most dangerous neighborhood is a problem. “They know how to play video games, they know how to tweet, they know how to Facebook,” he says. “They don’t have any personal skills. They never learned.”
But they just learned a hell of a lot about their supposed "leader," didn't they? Young coppers who don't have any seniority to leave the west side just got kicked in the teeth by their "boss."
We're told this jackass has got the personality of a wooden door and during his previous stint in the 011th District as Tact Lt, he called the entire team a "bunch of savages." Needless to say, he didn't last long in that spot as numbers dropped off, but it didn't stop him from commanding three different Districts.
Fuck up, move up we suppose. This is supposed to be a leader, yet he denigrates the entire District. You think this tool has anyone's back? That he'll support you if a citizen complains? Or if you justifiably shoot a gunman who confronts you in an alley?
Or will he talk shit about you behind your back and to the media? Like now.
We're told this jackass has got the personality of a wooden door and during his previous stint in the 011th District as Tact Lt, he called the entire team a "bunch of savages." Needless to say, he didn't last long in that spot as numbers dropped off, but it didn't stop him from commanding three different Districts.
Fuck up, move up we suppose. This is supposed to be a leader, yet he denigrates the entire District. You think this tool has anyone's back? That he'll support you if a citizen complains? Or if you justifiably shoot a gunman who confronts you in an alley?
Or will he talk shit about you behind your back and to the media? Like now.
Labels: un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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If this asshole has a Facebook page befriend him, how ironic, the savages are the cause of the violence, what a fucking hack
IDIOT
No need to waste any more words
I remember being on midnights with a year or two on the job and the LT comes into roll call and starts with "I know that you're all young, and don't know anything and that's why you're on midnights, but...." I honestly don't recall the point of what this "teaching moment" was all about because I was so stunned by his ignorance. I'll respect your stripes any day of the week, but how these people were capable of getting themselves promoted is beyond me. You know what J.J. is good at? Telling the entire City of Chicago that he has no management skills, and that he has no respect for officers.
Well hell, what that fuck, who in the hell would want to work in 011 where all the citizens hate you, you can do your job, still get fucked, and the worst part your probability of getting shot or killed while at work is very high. So why the fuck would any cop with 10 plus years wanna stay there. Plus I tell you what, the officers there who worked 5 or six years have a lot more POLICE skills, than some phone call hack who is scared to be the police who works in 016 for 10 years. Part of the job, get seniority and get the fuck out.
I got an idea, pay coppers more for working in that shit hole, a lot more. Why doesn't he look at the real problem, the citizens shooting each other, oh wait that would put responsibility where the real problem is. Fuck 011.
Anyone notice by chance that Emanuel and Johnson both have raccoon eyes?
This is the way a boss talks about young men and women put their lives on the line every day. ? More and more military personnel are coming on this job every day. What line of service were you in sir? Were you in the service? How dare you denigrate these young hard-working officers. The officers with seniority wouldn't want to work for a boss like you.
When he was a Captain in 005 this dickhead was a stone cold jagoff. Hates whitey.
I worked for that idiot of a boss twice. Once when he was a Lt and once when he was a commander. I did not work for him by choice. He was sent to my unit or district while I was there. I would say that he is right there with Lemmer. At least Lemmer is smart with a bad personality. Jones is an idiot with a personality that matches his idiocy.
Hope all you guys in 011 are aware when you're chasing cars and dope dealers.
Jones was a tool as an area 1 detective and a tool as an area 4 detective Sgt and a bigger TOOL as area 2 LT. The curb has more personality than this guy. I don't know how rose worked with him all those years in area 1.
Personal skills?!?!
Okay dickhead, how about you see what you can do about starting a new class in the academy on how to deal with 011 district woes. It can be like 'verbal judo,' except more compliant with the intricate problems of the ghetto. Afterall, these citizens have had such complex issues plaguing their community that more in-depth training should be required.
'My cousin stole my car six months ago. I wants a report.'
'My babies momma's sister came up to my car and spilled strawberry soda on the hood. On purpose Joe. I wants a report.'
'Lock up my uncle. He won't let me play my PSP even though I'm a grown man.'
'My baby daddy knocked over the table when I told him I needed money to go get my hair done. No, I'm not scared of him, but he need to go to jail.'
I'm so tired of these pussy bosses and these mutant community leaders. Nevermind actually speaking the truth at these meetings and telling these people to stop having six kids with six different daddys. God forbid someone points out the root of the whole problem. Just keep hoping the schools and the police can raise your kids for you. The more dependent you are on the government, the better you fine citizens of 011 will be.
Now, whom needs a link card and government phone? Please folks, only two reports a month on that baby's daddy, or baby's momma, that is telephone harrassing you over the phone that you didn't even pay for.
Those peasants are revolting, saith Laird Jones.
Jones is just another exempt who was merit promoted and then clouted into the command ranks, Those who get pushed up the promotional ladder based on who they know and not what they know tend to dismiss the knowledge and experience of the supervisors in their units, because their exempt promotion somehow guarantees that THEY KNOW EVERYTHING now.
Same story in our unit - a commander with merit promotions through the career service ranks, right up to captain - followed by a clouted bump to commander.
Would anyone care to guess the unit/district I'm referring to, or is it the same city-wide?
Once a piece of shit, always a piece of shit which is the minimum standard for exempt status. No honor among these thieves.
WOW - tell him to look in the mirror to see someone who LACKS a lot of skills.
Hey now I'm motivated Lets go get some bad guys for the boss
Compare and contrast to Sheriff Gualtieri in the post below...
pull a similar stunt while wearing a blue shirt, get shit canned... ladies and gents when 2017 laws governing the police are going to go into effect, you will just see how easy it is to fire a copper. Politicians are making it too easy to do so, and 2017 they are doubling up on the buses that roll you up under it
Obviously the CPD does not promote on merit.
I'd like to know what spots this guy Jones has had in his career. Probably been in cush spots from day one.
I guess all you low-seniority coppers with college degrees, military experience or who came from other jobs only know how to play video games and Facebook.
How bout we address the real problem. Criminals who were never taught how to act. Criminals who were given a pass for all of their minor transgressions. Minor transgressions turn into major transgressions. Criminals growing up with no sense of accountability because the elders in the community protect them and neglect to teach them that there are consequences to their actions. Keep blaming everyone but the culprits that is exactly how we ended up in the place we are today. What a stand up leader we have here. He chooses to blame his troops rather than address the root of the problem. It is quite ironic that of all people he would complain about interpersonal skills because he has none! Wake up 011. Produce nothing. Stick together.
Talk about painting with a broad brush and "labeling" people.
This tool ought to be demoted.
This by far, was one of the worst bosses I've worked for in my career along with SL, the little man whom recently was awarded that Northside District that I'm sure he's bound to fuck up the way they did in 003. Two of the worst I've seen in a long time. They chased almost all of the good PO's and Sgt.'s away. Tons of people bid in when Evans was the commander and twice as many left when Jones and his little side kick came to 003. They completely fucked up the District and specifically the Tact Teams. Because of that, the current Commander is in for a world of shit this summer. Anyone downtown see how many people in 003 and 011 got shot two weeks ago? This past weekend? The rise in all index crimes? All of the experienced Officers left because of the way Jones and SL treated their troops. Completely dogged them every minute they could, never appreciative for the hard work they did. Now the Tact teams, 3rd and 1st watch are filled with recruits and two year wonders that have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE about any of the gangs in the district nor how to police them. Doss is the boss (for now) but they have set him up for failure. He is already limited in his abilities but now add all the disgruntled veteran PO's plus the inexperienced new ones, plus the anti-police climate and that is a recipe for disaster. I just hope no Officers get hurt.
Joes is the clone of that hater Hillard. Both sub retarded merit hacks. The biggest word they know is shit. That LT scandal must not die and the U.S. attorney must be getting tons of mail on this. Ramsey ran away after seeing this bull shit after 3 weeks. He knows Jones is a mutt and a lap dog.
Jody always did the tight thing. Hey, Cozzi did fuck up guys.
Madigan will not jet that affidavit shit turn around. Silent and cares about the police.
Richie Daley would on never had all this shit hitting the CPD. His old man would of ruined all these black politicians asses out of town and the Rev; would be told to go fuck off.
P.S.- Hillard was a jag off and thinks his sit smells like roses.
ALL OF THE OFFICERS IN 011, know that our fearless leader does not have our back. That is why everyone shut down and is not doing much. Look at the the number of people shot week after week after week. 011 has always been high in violence but not the way it is now. Jones treats everyone like shit and never acknowledges you when you see him in the hallway. It's like we are beneath him and we are nobody. The fact is Commander, that if it wasn't for this job that has provided you with many undeserving promotional opportunities you'd probably be sitting on one of those porches sipping on the affordable beverage of your choice waiting on the 3rd. Eddie, do us a favor and promote this guy (again) and get him the fuck out of 011 so we can go back to doing police work.
DO nothing for this asshole. This merit f**k is going to collect a hefty pension. If it weren't for his clout he'd be washing windows at xpway exits.
How do U "Tweet" Fuck off, Boss!
Personal Skills? Like denigrating those under your command, while pandering to the community like a Stone Pimp Jagoff?
It's darling n the morning and all I can say W O W!
First things first. This prick has to be "outed, exposed, identified for the entire dept to see and hear what this jag-off has said and done so his name is the equals dog shit whenever it is mentioned. Why isn't his name exposed???? I don't get it.
The PO's on this job are so screwed, no leadership just halfwits masquerading as supervisors. These same people want me to put my life and family on the line for what? f@ck these ghetto rats
Go FUCK yourself Deputy Chief!
This fool was a Lt when I was there and has the personality of a 2x4. He will not say hello to you if you are not of his race. He should be launched off the job for such Racists actions.
Col Hanibal Smith
A-TEAM
Fuck that mark !
O T
What is going on with the Arson Section? Only a dozen Detectives? Forced overtime? Management over its head?
Yet the tact team will keep working for him.
That clown was h as been a back stabbing fool since he was a sergeant in Area 4. He continued his militant and unprofessional ways ever since.He is only one of many who constantly screw up and then get promoted up and out including Staples, Pena, Wysinger, West,Price, Andrews, Salemme, Valdez, Walsh, Williams, Johnson, Welch, just to name a few.
I hope his personnel read those comments and statements and learn from them.
The problem with this department is that there is a nearly complete lack of leadership. These jackasses of exempt rank, for the most part, would never cut it in the military where leadership is instilled from day one. The fact that a jackass DC can make a comment like that to a national media outlet like Time speaks volumes. Every jackass with their pet project trying to make a career of their bullshit and sell it to other cities to make a living for themselves would have been better off just learning to be the police in the first place. Sad what this department has to deal with.
Promotional exams every ten years? That leads to political hacks getting ahead and the qualified getting screwed. So called academics and their bullshit theories who have absolutely no clue about the gang culture and lack of humanity in the ghettoes of Chicago are another joke that our exempts latch on to. Pathetic.
Hey Eddie, I thought you weren't going to tolerate crap like this from your command team?
Or is this part of rahm's plan to bust the union and contract protections.
You think you've seen fetal? Just wait!
These ppo's were assigned to a van, thanks to our former supt, they didn't have a lot of contact with the community. They have now been taken out of the vans and put with experienced officers. Their "police" interpersonal skills weren't being developed but now they are getting s chance to learn.
Jones may be quiet but I promise you he is on the side of the working copper. Rumors I heard about him, say 5-6 years ago were not very nice, but the guy, in my opinion, isn't that way anymore.
You can read what ever you want to into that article, but jones will stand up for his people everytime.
I am in 11 by choice, and owe nothing to him, but I'm sure there will be some nasty comments. Oh well, that's the way of the Cpd, bash others that bring us down and try to destroy our own every chance we get, we are our own worst enemy.
Coming up on 3 years and I have to say from top to bottom, I'm not impressed by this organization at all. The top has such discontent for its workers beneath them in rank that its unfathomable how Chicago hasn't had a blow up. When a person in charge of a bunch of people who lets be honest, DON'T WANT TO BE THERE IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE are still showing up and trying their best are shit on by not only the public but its own fucking "leader", that is an issue. So I propose this to our fearless leader in the 011th. Please kick all of us facebooking tweeting cheetoh faced NW side white boys out of this hell and replace us with the people you want. Trust me, I won't lose any sleep over it.
If Rahm, the ACLU, the reverends, and the public in general really want to fix what's wrong with this police department, they really should be examining it from the TOP down. 99% of the problems in any organization are due to poor management staff. We definitely have no shortage of unqualified, under qualified, and downright brain dead bosses on this job with zero leadership skills and no balls. Clout and corruption is to blame for it. The DOJ and IPRA need to start looking at what's running this department instead of looking at five year old adjudicated cases and throwing hero officers under the bus.
This guy and Fat Eddie sound like a vaudeville team, so there is life when the Pols are done using them.
.............another Deputy Chief? Salary? Credentials?
SCC you have to understand these New style exempts actually think changing start time and being loud intimidate seasoned officers.
Remember the day when if you had a problem with a shit head boss you would invite him to the parking lot to settle the matter.
Now with all the clouted and lovers of other exempts they will generate a case report if a radio is missing or feel threatened if an officer tapes them secretly in roll call.
Give me this ISR,clear this corner,change your start time, can you stop by this clouted office, and my favorite lock up this guy I ORDER YOU!
Just say NO. simple. Do you actually think these exempts want To -FROMS with example of them ordering you to violate people s civil rights or how certain people can make direct call to commander and receive special services.
AND finally scan your TO FROMs and email them to all exempts involved, you see those never get thrown out and become OFFICIAL and can be FOIAed. Put full names and star number etc.
Eventually these suckholes move on to those new officers the article is talking about.
Hey James Jones,
Your a goof. Where did you learn to do this job a desk?
I have 30 years of dedicated service in the CPD.
I started in 11 and learned how to do the job.
moved to 15 then 25 and then to 24.
I have been a FTO, Tactical and back to patrol car.
In the time on this department I have been shot, shot at, stabbed, attacked with a motor vehicle. But the worst is being attacked by my own Department.
having any supervisor make comments like this is another way of throwing
gas on an open flame.
My son is waiting to come on this job and I cannot figure out why?
But he knows he will go into the heart of the crime and face it head on.
Just like myself, my father and my grand father.......
By the way Jones should retire, why because he just brought major discredit
on the Department. Who would follow this piece of horse shit anywhere?
Who is his clout? Years ago a boss would know that his career was headed down when he/she got DUMPED to 011! Usually they stepped on their or their clout's dick and were sent to the west side wasteland! A lot of those bosses retired or just took it out on their troops until they developed new clout or were forced out. Seems that he's just an entitled asshole like the rest. Things never really change, they just go full circle.
Piece of shit Cpd brass, we are finished.
And the next step on appeasing the "community" will be to demand FOP eliminate seniority rights for district or watch bidding.
Lets look at the police department's history of assignments of supervisors which they have a lot of control. The troubled communities have always been used as a dumping ground for informal "punishment", the troubled supervisors i.e. jerks, incompetent, and out of favor with the powers that be. Put your worst supervisors in the most troubled communities with the youngest officers and then wonder what could go wrong.
First things first. This prick has to be "outed, exposed, identified for the entire dept to see and hear what this jag-off has said and done so his name is the equals dog shit whenever it is mentioned. Why isn't his name exposed???? I don't get it.
Perhaps you missed it in the italicized section of the article quoted - it's right there in bla....well, blue and white - James Jones.
Carry on
Good luck anyone dealing with JJ he hates the police!
I dealt with his leadership three time and if you arent the right gender or ahade he wont even acknowledge you. He is arrogant and clueless, whish are the only two requirements for the position hes in. Dont trust this assholehe will definitely use the sword on your back. Where is jackson or wven starks.at least they apprexiated what you did in 011 with what you had
Our command staff knows how to play footsie with the opposite sex, collect a paycheck, and send an email. But they know nothing about leadership.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
ALL OF THE OFFICERS IN 011, know that our fearless leader does not have our back. That is why everyone shut down and is not doing much. Look at the the number of people shot week after week after week. 011 has always been high in violence but not the way it is now. Jones treats everyone like shit and never acknowledges you when you see him in the hallway. It's like we are beneath him and we are nobody. The fact is Commander, that if it wasn't for this job that has provided you with many undeserving promotional opportunities you'd probably be sitting on one of those porches sipping on the affordable beverage of your choice waiting on the 3rd. Eddie, do us a favor and promote this guy (again) and get him the fuck out of 011 so we can go back to doing police work.
4/25/2016 03:42:00 AM
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FROM THE 12TH District::: everywhere you see 011, 011th on the above pasted comment just add us to it as well-- 012 012th district because it is a mirror image of exactly the same words !!! Ed J Kulbida is exactly the same type of asshole!! ironic how he used to work the desk when he was a blue shirt way way back in 011. His brother is a arrogant prick too.
hmmmmm as Paul Harvey would say "NOW.......... you know the rest of the story!!"
Anonymous said...
Jones is just another exempt who was merit promoted and then clouted into the command ranks, Those who get pushed up the promotional ladder based on who they know and not what they know tend to dismiss the knowledge and experience of the supervisors in their units, because their exempt promotion somehow guarantees that THEY KNOW EVERYTHING now.
Same story in our unit - a commander with merit promotions through the career service ranks, right up to captain - followed by a clouted bump to commander.
Would anyone care to guess the unit/district I'm referring to, or is it the same city-wide?
4/25/2016 01:14:00 AM
__________
Escamerit?
"You think this tool has anyone's back"
Yes, Eddie has his girlfriend's back, and other parts, I assume.
A book author, Harriet Beecher Stowe, wrote a book about Eddie, I think... something about a cabin...
The Peter Prinicpal: In a hierarchy, one rises to their level of incompetence.
Tweet this, jackoff.
Here is an example of just how much clout Jones has. He was promoted to lieutenant in a very small class without even one day of training. One of the candidates declined the promotion at the last minute and Jones shows up in his dress uniform on graduation day, ready to be promoted. He hadn't been required to attend the pre-service training, and his fellow promotees didn't know who he was, but he took the oath and was sworn in just like the rest of them. You can thank Phil Cline for that.
Check it out if you don't believe it. It's the truth.
Jones is a asshole and Loughran is shady
Don't trust neither both are fake and out for their own glory
Jones would give out a phone # he used (unk if city phone or burner type') to "citizen's" in the street and tell them to call him if they saw anything of questionable behavior by either street thug or CPD copper. He would then either call the Sgt/Lt/Cpt etc and/or show up. Be careful, he is very sneaky
Seniority rights are the pillar of any Union
Seniority rules
I know small town "residents baffled entire police force quits"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/04/24/residents-of-colorado-town-baffled-after-entire-police-force-suddenly-quits/
Hmm same terrible management and elected?
I would compare him to the old Commander of 015, one other than the horses ass Lorenzo SLO ZO Davis. A complete hack and racist goof. If you are still working on 011 you have to be out of your mind. The citizens are doing a fine job of wiping each other out on their own. Nothing will fix this problem on our end, it is the way they were raised. The residents want to be left alone to kill, rob, rape, steal and do so without us getting involved. Well guess what, they may have just got their wish. Enjoy the summer boys and girls, and make sure you buckle up for the ride.
I think it's time for another morale survey. LMAO.
If you guys do anything for this clown you're brain damaged.
How many bites of the merit apple did this genius get?
Why does a commander get deputy's pay? Because of the high crime in the district? Remain fetal officers.....
He sounds like a self righteous prick.
This guy makes Burger Queen look like a Mensa member.
What a Grade A asswipe!!!
I hope all you younger lads are taking notes of the current climate.
You guys and gals are about 8000 strong. If you all tossed in $20 a month you could hire some very smart people to run commercials and show videos of what you are up against.Then when these two faced pricks, attempt to run you over, you can hit the brakes, turn it around and drive that bus into 3500 S Michigan !
Jody always did the tight thing. Hey, Cozzi did fuck up guys.
Madigan will not jet that affidavit shit turn around. Silent and cares about the police.
Richie Daley would on never had all this shit hitting the CPD. His old man would of ruined all these black politicians asses out of town and the Rev; would be told to go fuck off.
P.S.- Hillard was a jag off and thinks his sit smells like roses.
4/25/2016 03:38:00 AM
I know you're drunk typing, but I'll have to say, you were right about one thing. Jody did do the "tight" thing. He fucked a guy in the ass. That one was bullshit any way you look at it. After you plead guilty and take your punishment, you should not be punished again with federal time. I don't give a fuck how you look at it, it was just a slap to a guy that spit on him. He should have beaten the shit out of the asshole.
Any chance we can do 15 and out for like any percent? LOL I'm so over this BS job...
SCC, Call him properly, JIMMY Bob JONES, aka June Bug. Outstanding reporting as usual SCC, Wizard of CPD.
Offer five thousand a year signing bonus. I'll go to 011
I think that you will see which way the wind is blowing when union contract talks open up. It seems that the progressives who are now in charge of the city and county want to bring the police department back to the dark ages before there was a police union. I remember those days. The watch commander would change your day off group in the middle of the period, just before you had your two weekends or change your watch in the middle of a period. They could do anything to you and there was nothing you could do. Promotions were for sale ( probably still going on) and detectives could be demoted on a whim. Write the wrong person a traffic citation or arrest the wrong person and you would be transferred out to midnights in some shit location. It seems people forget why unions came along. The progressives are fighting with Rauner over union power in this state, except when it comes to the police. Hypocrites to say the least. Lets include the alderman who want none of this for themselves but seem to think it is fair for the cops.
Fuck this crap about making a deputy chief a district commander. There was never ever a district spot for Deputy chief. That is a waste of money. And the gene pools are getting smaller so some of these bosses will be crap. I feel for new police. This is not your daddy's police dept. Anymore.
Jones, on his meritorious career path, made a brief stop at Area Four as a sergeant. Aside from being an arrogant, self-
important, racist, he did not contribute much to the team effort at the Murder Factory. At roll calls he pontificated from on high and was quick to red mark pen detectives' reports that he felt fell far short of the literary skills that he so obviously
possessed. In short order, detectives were working around him, not for him.
In the end he was a bore and a tiring man of no skill or humanity. He was trapped in a morass of insecurity, placed by
merit in a position of supervising men far better than himself.
Retired Area Four Detective
can you imagine if we weren't unionized? Say what you want about the union, good or bad, but if we didn't have one we'd be calling Jessie Jackson and the Black Panthers to see if we could take lunch.
The idea of paying premium for working nights in fast districts was floated over the years whenever contract talks open up. It never got far and as you can see duty availability goes to everyone, no matter what job you have. Bring this back on the table. There is no reason a police officer who works days or holds an administrative job in a safe location should get the same pay as someone who works nights on the street in a fast district. Many cities allow this form of compensation. The progressives and cop haters are in the process , right now, of re-writing the contract to take away from you as much as they can in the way of job rights. They are for unions for everyone but the police.
Bringing discredit upon the department and defamation. The revolution has started against the government and the police. It is time the blue shirts revolt against moron bosses and politicians who spew such crap against us. F.O.P, are you still there? Hello? McFly?
Joes is the clone of that hater Hillard. Both sub retarded merit hacks. The biggest word they know is shit. That LT scandal must not die and the U.S. attorney must be getting tons of mail on this. Ramsey ran away after seeing this bull shit after 3 weeks. He knows Jones is a mutt and a lap dog.
Jody always did the tight thing. Hey, Cozzi did fuck up guys.
Madigan will not jet that affidavit shit turn around. Silent and cares about the police.
Richie Daley would on never had all this shit hitting the CPD. His old man would of ruined all these black politicians asses out of town and the Rev; would be told to go fuck off.
P.S.- Hillard was a jag off and thinks his sit smells like roses.
4/25/2016 03:38:00 AM
You are spot-on about Hillard, but you lost me when you supported J-FLED.
Instead of easing into the job and getting the lay of the land, J-FLED stuck it to Bill Cozzi for takeover shock and awe. He thought he was going to show us. It backfired on the FLED and, coupled with his renowned cowardice, negated any positive contributions he subsequently made as Superintendent. Fuck J-FLED, now and forever.
And they found another way to fuck with p.o.'s further kill morale. Coppers are getting deviated for missing any court now. So if you and your partners are the 15th and 16th officers on scene, get put on paper and get a court date out of it don't be late
This POS made meritorious Detective and rode on the back of a white Detective for years. Made meritorious Sgt and sent to A/4 and rode on the back of the best V/C C/O that there ever carried a star. Made meritorious Lt and was hated by every district he was assigned. Made meritorious CPT and repeated his act in all districts assigned. Most hateful, radical, racist and incompetent POS, who ever wore a uniform. Yeah, send him to the most crime ridden area of the city and blame EVERYONE but himself!!!!
I have 16 years on. How about this: DOUBLE my salary and I'll work in 011! How about it, boss? I need hazzard pay. 3 tac guys just got shot there! I could loose my job for judo flipping ARMED ROBBERS.
I couldnt begin to count the screwball white shirts Ive had to deal with on this job. I'd say about 1/2 are just an embarrassment. Which would coincide nicely with all the cheating on promotional tests and the bullshit of management/clout promotions. Sure Ive smiled and said, "yessir Ize be a good boy and pick dat cotton", but behind my back I had my middle finger up and was thinking, "boy how did a dumb SOB like you ever get a white shirt and what kind of dip shit Dept. would give you one".
Ive had an honorable career. Never stole or brought discredit to this job and still to this day these phoney retards wouldnt do a fucking thing for me. I'll be one of those who go and nobody ever see's again.
Im proud of those like me, and yes I know there are many. I wont disrespect them by leaving like an asshole.
Out his clout !!!
Rule 2 violation-any action which brings discredit upon the Department including all acts which would degrade or bring disrespect upon the member or the department
Rule 8 disrespect any person
Rule 11 incompetency or inefficiency
Oops forgot rule 31 -publicly criticizing the official actions of another Department members
I just finished reading that entire *thing* in Time Magazine. I'm dumbfounded.
If a Space Alien just landed and read that piece of crap by this Simone Weichselbaum they would get the impression that it's you guys and gals, the Chicago Police Department, who are committing all the crimes and doing all the killing.
It's nothing but; Police bad 'here', Police wrong 'there'. Police not doing 'this' right, Police not doing 'that' right. And then, a real problem that does exist and has for decades is only mentioned in passing -- CLOUT, aka: Patronage.
And where the hell did all those asshole Professors and their bullshit *Studies* come from? Not one of those life-long coddled Ivory Tower Eggheads has firsthand knowledge of crime or what a cop does. It's all statistics and theories, it's f--king Navel Gazing.
---> Just look at our FedGov and how all of Obama's 'Elite' University Eggheads that he's appointed to his Cabinet, and/or installed as Czars and how THEY'VE fucked up this country. Prime Example; Obamacare -- created by Johnathon Gruber, a Professor at MIT. That asshole couldn't have fucked up America's entire Health System even more if he had tried. <---
But I digress, sorry. Everyone KNOWS who/what is the cause of Chicago's violent crime, and it ain't the Police. It's the goddamn people in the community who are the cause. It is THEY that have to change, period. End.
The people who live in 011 don't deserve the zeal and hard work of the good officers assigned there. And this "boss" certainly deserves nothing but scorn on the famous 011 shit house walls.
That is all.
This is only the tip of the iceberg. Our new Supt stripped some coppers from an 011th District armed robbery arrest that occurred 5 years ago. It was investigated by IPRA and the coppers were cleared.
If any of you think the Supt isn't Rahm's bitch, you need to have your heads examined. None of these motherfuckers have our backs.
The offenders Momma was on the news praising the Supt. Where the fuck is the FOP?
What possible people skills could anyone have acquired prior to working in 011 that you would need there?
Lawlessness rules 011, victims are offenders and everything is upside down.
You learn there and learn quick that nothing's like it seems.
The residents know every loop hole, they know system inside and out. Shit, some know our job better than some coppers do. God bless the coppers in 011, especially the old timers that spent their entire careers there, you are a special breed.
My God, who would work for this guy?
Hey Deputy Chief, ever heard of On The Job Training? How would you propose getting anyone ready to work in 11?
I recommend anyone beginning their career in 11, start talking to brick walls. After a short time on the street there you'll thank me for the advice.
I play video games. The 11th district reminds me of Modern Warfare, Fallout cause it looks like the remnants of a nuclear attack, any game that has zombies and Sonic the Hedgehog cause you gotta move fast in 11.
Jones is a racist & a pure idiot, a political hack. He should be fired. What a dope. He ran all the good people out of 3,5 & now 11, whereever he goes he's bad news. The dept. got what it ddeseves when it promotes goofs like this. Well this is the Chicago way, police, fire, the park dist, schools all have their share of these mopes. Here's an idea, if Jones is so great, wear a body camera and go out and answer calls and prevent crime yourself old boy.
The way experienced bosses have bailed out (beginning from the Weis era, and ongoing) from the Titanic that the CPD has become, don't be surprised to see Jones elevated into a top, top tier spot within a year...wouldn't surprise me (or anyone else) at all.
Ret chief Juan Rivera needs to be brought back one of the last few bosses who respected the troops and was a true leader
three bites from merit political clout apple tree
deputy chief pay as a district commander
So inexperienced Police are the reason these people like to murder each other. That's a new one isn't it?
I give him a 10 for originality.
A guy with an all merit career should never utter the words "well connected."
While I must admit that Jones is a poor fit for a leader, his comments aren't totally off base with regard to the personnel in 011. Bash him here all day if you want to, there is a lot of truth in his words regarding many of the people assigned to that district, but it didn't begin under his tenure at all.
remember boys and girls , hair gels , dinosaurs
use that new body cam at roll call , record all the unlawful orders from the unqualified merit hacks
upload asap
The department went to shit when CAPS and steady watches came into the game.
If the mayor would stop merit promotions and demote the cheaters, could be a start to improving his problems.
Raccoon eyes = heart attack is coming!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/04/24/residents-of-colorado-town-baffled-after-entire-police-force-suddenly-quits/?
Im almost 60yo and dodnt have any personal skills either. In fact, Im an asshole. So I guess your better off leaving me in my do nothing district eh?
""" Anonymous Anonymous said...
Coming up on 3 years and I have to say from top to bottom, I'm not impressed by this organization at all. The top has such discontent for its workers beneath them in rank that its unfathomable how Chicago hasn't had a blow up. When a person in charge of a bunch of people who lets be honest, DON'T WANT TO BE THERE IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE are still showing up and trying their best are shit on by not only the public but its own fucking "leader", that is an issue. So I propose this to our fearless leader in the 011th. Please kick all of us facebooking tweeting cheetoh faced NW side white boys out of this hell and replace us with the people you want. Trust me, I won't lose any sleep over it. """
Actually it only took my 3 mos to figure all this out. So I guess you'd better shoot for management.
"Plus I tell you what, the officers there who worked 5 or six years have a lot more POLICE skills, than some phone call hack who is scared to be the police who works in 016 for 10 years. Part of the job, get seniority and get the fuck out"
Perpetuating the myth of lies once again. Having worked in both districts I can tell you unequivocally that you are full of shit. West Side coppers know one thing, Dope. Anything that requires nuanced thought they are at a loss.
If he berates you he is creating a hostile working environment.Confer with your unit rep. A CR # should be obtained and follow thru with it.If he orders you to do something that is illegal call the street deputy and the union immediately. And document it in an email and a to-from.Be professional unlike him or any other boss who thinks yelling and berating officers will help matters along. But remember stay professional and beat them at there own game. If your in a beat car there's not much if anything they can do to you. If your in a unit and your being treated like that there's not much reason to stay there.If you don't do anything they will just keep it up.
"Jones is just another exempt who was merit promoted and then clouted into the command ranks, Those who get pushed up the promotional ladder based on who they know and not what they know tend to dismiss the knowledge and experience of the supervisors in their units, because their exempt promotion somehow guarantees that THEY KNOW EVERYTHING now.
Same story in our unit - a commander with merit promotions through the career service ranks, right up to captain - followed by a clouted bump to commander.
Would anyone care to guess the unit/district I'm referring to, or is it the same city-wide?"
Sadly, yes.
The problem is one of 'perception.' Drop the practice of 'numbering' police districts and give them pleasant sounding names. The 1st District could become 'Eden Land.' The 2nd District could be 'Renewal Village.' The 11th District could be ............Ahh....forget about it!
Why does a district with the highest crime levels have both a commander and deputy chief with no proven results? Do all districts have a deputy chief assigned to them? Pay for play perhaps? Alderman' boy to move the taxpayer's money around? At the least the kids know when you are running a scam on the tax payers to keep their mouths shut.
"And the next step on appeasing the "community" will be to demand FOP eliminate seniority rights for district or watch bidding."
What the no-information media does not tell the low-brain-power public is the reason for watches and districts by seniority why.
Prior to it, you were at the mercy and whim of the department. If a boss took a hard-on to you, he could easily send your 017 residing ass to work in 004. About 25 miles. Each way. Don't like it? F you. Quit.
But if you knew someone or where very friendly with a boss, you could walk to your desk spot.
It was a mechanism to control, punish and reward.
Keeping a cop in an area he is sick and tired of does no one any good. Not the Department and not the citizenry.
I remember when I was "young and inexperienced". It was some of the better work of my career. I learned what to do on each arrest. I had that fire to go out and stop people. I got in some trouble because I was so young and inexperienced but getting in trouble is part of the learning process. Then I got a little more time on and continued to work. The numbers dropped off but the quality got better. The bs arrests dropped off but the good arrests picked up... Still made mistakes, still was learning and still was getting in some trouble.. But not as much as before. Got even more time on and started to get some whiskers. Learned a lot but not it all. Made real good arrests, used my head alot and started to be able to "feel" if people were dirty and knew how I was gonna play it out to catch them. Did that for a while then started slowing down quite a bit. Still like the job, just started to get tired and burnt out of the ghetto police life. Lots of tragedy, lots of death, lots of despair and depression to see everyday. Seeing the same thugs, same ghetto mess and same crap everyday takes a toll. Now I have a chance to slow it down and go to a slower paced district so I do it. I "retire" a little bit and my mind and body is able to start recuperate s little bit from the ghetto policing stressed and pressure. I've earned it. I've sacrificed my mind, body and time to go above and beyond in a hard area that brings no pleasure or accolades from its residents. Now it's time to get my body and mind back to a normal life so my family and I don't have to feel the "pressure" of a job in a bad area. I've done my time, served the ghetto and it took a terrible toll on my mind and body. It's a real thing. Ghetto Burn out is real and it takes s terrible toll. Do your time then pass the torch to the next group of young bucks to take the same road you did. I guess bosses or people who never really worked the ghetto have no clue about any of this...
The entire west side should have 24/7 drones, air support and coppers should work in hazmat suits making hazardous duty pay. The station should have a decontamination chamber and under ground bunker.
Why don't they ask the postman about why they get their routes? Or how the folk in the secretary of states office, the park district, or the library? Anyone who has held a working class job understands the importance of seniority in employment whether formally bargained for or company practice. Politicians, news men, and the social subsidy set can get in an uproar because they have never worked a real job.
Whoa I'm impress we have such leadership on this department hurrah for me and f@ck you. I'll bet he sure enjoyed the seniority for what little time he spent patrol, sgt or what ever he did until all his merit promotion kick in to the point he did not need seniority. If they take this away than we have nothing and there should be no more union dues because FOP does nothing to stand up for us, don't hear a peep out of them. Morale does no exist on this department just ignorance merit bosses like Jones who are lucky to find there way to work.
Luckily for him he has an A+ XO in JL. Not the healthiest of guys but definitely a prince of a boss.
".He is only one of many who constantly screw up and then get promoted up and out including Staples, Pena, Wysinger, West,Price, Andrews, Salemme, Valdez, Walsh, Williams, Johnson, Welch, just to name a few."
I concur with your list, but take exception with Salemme. Can you cite a specific incident that Salemme fucked up and was subsequently promoted?
If Dean Angelo had any balls he would pull a CR# on this prick for bringing discredit upon the department. A blue shirt makes these comments they would get 5 days off.
I miss the good old days when the shit hit the fan and the politicians always blamed somebody who was already dead. Its a shame there's no shortage of buses anymore.
I think they should take all the young black officers and put them in the black districts. That way they can learn the streets fast. Maybe when they become bosses they will know what goes on The bosses now know nothing about the street. Lets face it unless things change in this city or any other big city most white people will not stay on the job or even take it. I don't want to see any officer get hurt so let the young black officers learn. I know this sounds extreme but look around you people. Eddie Johnson, just what the fuck did they offer you?
Jones has a lot of nerve evaluating the "personal skills" of anybody. He's got the personality of a board.
“They don’t have any personal skills. They never learned.”
And someone doesn't have any leadership skills. Jesus, how shameful. How unbelieveably stupid. There are NO leaders anywhere anymore. Utterly pitiful.
This is The Doer. Many of you remember me from previous threads. Although I expect people to lift themselves of by their bootstraps and look in the mirror before complaining, I stand behind you men and women on this one.
I did my years on a busy district. The new guys have to learn how to police and handle situations; they will only learn in a busy district.
There is one point that this supervisor nailed; the clouted get to go to easy units. That is a problem because there are people on the job who have over 15 years on and have been babied their whole careers; they are clueless, untrained, and outright incompetent.
As The Doer, I have to go to study for the Detective's Test.
So now we know who finds all of the pictures on Facebook and Twitter of the little angels that get posted on the blog.
Another idiot talking to the media! thought that was a major rule violation, was this cleared through proper channels? In all my time otj never have I or many other veterans seen such a pathetic looking gold badge society! Not long ago you would see a "boss" and he/she got some type of respect now lol sorry, at 1 time I respected the rank like many others now since its a faker poseur in a halloween costume its over! How about that cheating with the latest "shes my gurl" lieutenants test?
The old sign "respect is earned not granted" that was hung in all police facilities is now extinct now it should be replaced with "we lie,we cheat,we steal" In all command offices the truth hurts or does it?
Hates whitey.
Perhaps. But he aint exactly cozy with any Black PO's here (011) either.
Couple weeks ago, he showed up at 10-1, pretty much didn't say shit to anyone. Just kind of stood there with his thumb up his ass. He eventually parted his lips to tell PO's to move their vehilces out of the middle of the street.
I bullshit you not, when this dude shows up at a scene, no one has anything to say to him. No "Hey, how ya doin Boss?", like you'd get in the case of most Commanders. We figure he doesn't give a shit about 011 because he's a Deputy, and only "acting" Commander, til they can find someone else to take it. He knows he's only here for a short. So, he doesn't care.
Said it before and I'll always say it: As an old timer in 011, there simply has never been anyplace else I wanted to be. Ghetto Shit and all.
I could've left for greener pastures many moons ago. But I'm good here.
Generally speaking, we have good white shirts. Backup in 011 has always been unparellelled.
Our comraderie here is pretty good. Escpecially so, considering what I hear about the bitching and moaning that takes places in some of the "better" districts.
Asswipes Commanders aint shit new here. Fuck'em!
The troops stick together. And ultimately, that's what really matters.
This coming from a dolt who has absolutely zero I mean zero people skills. The officers in 003rd District threw a party when Jones was promoted but didn't invite him. Another delusional merit hack who thinks he is an authority on being the police.
I agree with the post about Jones and Sl they threw coppers under the bus every chance they got. That post is spot in accurate.
Are they working to be this stupid or is it effortless
He should be demoted for such a statement. The essence/failure of leadership on this job is what tends to lead us down the wrong road. Perhaps a no confidence vote is in order.
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Approached at a police-community meeting, the commander of the 11th, Deputy Chief James Jones, acknowledged that the deployment of the least experienced cops in the most dangerous neighborhood is a problem. “They know how to play video games, they know how to tweet, they know how to Facebook,” he says. “They don’t have any personal skills. They never learned.”
Joes is the clone of that hater Hillard. Both sub retarded merit hacks. The biggest word they know is shit. That LT scandal must not die and the U.S. attorney must be getting tons of mail on this. Ramsey ran away after seeing this bull shit after 3 weeks. He knows Jones is a mutt and a lap dog.
Jody always did the tight thing. Hey, Cozzi did fuck up guys.
Madigan will not jet that affidavit shit turn around. Silent and cares about the police.
Richie Daley would on never had all this shit hitting the CPD. His old man would of ruined all these black politicians asses out of town and the Rev; would be told to go fuck off.
P.S.- Hillard was a jag off and thinks his sit smells like roses.
4/25/2016 03:38:00 AM
Now boys and girls, if you haven't already gouged your eyes out after reading the above text, make sure you take away this valuable lesson:
DON'T DRINK AND TEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow...this asshole sure knows how boost morale. I thought 007 was bad but this shitbag takes the cake.
Sounds like a great guy...just like the DC, Capt in 006th district. Damn Shame
"Weichselbaum"
There's your answer.
You guys and gals need to go public with this shit. Use the media to bust out these pricks for throwing y'all under the bus
Looks like a new sticker needs to be put up on the bathroom stall, and the Lemmer one taken down.
Well thanks for the support Mr dickhead. Just so happens a couple of our new 3 year wonder POs (in a district not so very far from yours) that know how to do snapchat and Twitter and set up fake Facebook accts were able to "friend" some of these shitheads and see them online with guns. Because the shitheads are dumb, and they post EVERYTHING online. The new POs were able to recognize the area immediately and made an arrest, gun recovered. So these younger coppers aren't as dumb as you think. Me personally, I don't know how to do all that, I'm fetal as f$ck right now. But when they explained it to me I was impressed, it worked.
I wanna know what dirt his secretary has on him cause if she was my secretary I would of fired her a long time ago. They both SUCK!!!
Racism in the police department the entitled merit supervisors should take a long look in the mirror and look how white officers are being treated by them.
This whole thing is about dividing and conquering CPD along racial lines and it's working.
.........were working around him, not for him
In the end he was a bore and a tiring man of no skill or humanity. He was trapped in a morass of insecurity, placed by
merit in a position of supervising men far better than himself.
Retired Area Four Detective
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The above post summed it up perfectly. We have all had bosses we worked around and some we worked for. Fred Waller is a merit boss that I worked FOR and not around. I hope the promotion has not changed him. Eddie Johnson absolutely should have said the armed robbery arrest from 2011 warranted a high five and an honorable from the Sgt. nothing more.
I'm all for doubling my union dues or having a bunch of my CPD memorial fund money used on a positive PR campaign to educate the good citizens of Chicago.
FLASH --
1 CPD OFFICER SHOT in shoulder, 24/Trumbull, another cut in hand. Ofc. taken to Stroger.
CHICAGO – A Chicago police officer was taken to the hospital this afternoon after he was shot in the shoulder.
Chicago Police say the officer was shot during a foot pursuit of an armed suspect in the 2300 block of S Trumbull in the city’s Little Village neighborhood.
CPD officer shot in shoulder during foot pursuit of armed suspect @ 2350 blk S TRUMBULL. Supt Johnson will give update at Stroger Hospital
The suspect is in custody.
UPDATE – Offender is in custody. Confrontation began after beat officer in 10th Dist. responded to a call for an armed person.
If you leave after 16 years of service do you still get a pension? Thinking that may be best for the family unfortunately. I dont see this thing turning around. Two years ago it wasn't even a thought but this has taken a turn for the absurd and while I still love the job I fear I will go to jail for just doing my job.
Joes is the clone of that hater Hillard.
Really? Hillard is being touted as a hater? You must have had your head buried in your ass, Francis. Everyone knows Hillard promoted far fewer blacks to exempt positions than did Cline, or any exempt preceding Cline. Hillard may have been a lot of things, but he pushed forward whoever his boss Shortshanks told him to. Ask around.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The idea of paying premium for working nights in fast districts was floated over the years whenever contract talks open up. It never got far and as you can see duty availability goes to everyone, no matter what job you have. Bring this back on the table. There is no reason a police officer who works days or holds an administrative job in a safe location should get the same pay as someone who works nights on the street in a fast district. Many cities allow this form of compensation. The progressives and cop haters are in the process , right now, of re-writing the contract to take away from you as much as they can in the way of job rights. They are for unions for everyone but the police.
4/25/2016 09:07:00 AM
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So an Officer who worked in the ghetto for 25 years, rotated watches while working the 6 & 2, should take a cut in pay because he chooses to go to a slower district closer to home as he winds down his career?
Sorry, it makes no sense
WTF is he complaining about. That's good for the area. Because most of the POS that they are dealing with on the street also only know how to play video games, tweet, and facebook. And they also don't have any personal skills because they didn't learn either.
This guy is a real JAGBAG.
OT --
Just thinking --
Ofc. shot in shoulder, "non-life-threatening," I'm sure.
I took a fall against a corner in a place, std. drywall, 18 months ago or more and it will NOT go away. Hurts like a m.f., a lot. Deep, deep ache.
Slug through there? Going to bother you the rest of your life, on and off.
No "apps," just real.
This from a guy who couldn't manage the french fry station at a fast food joint.
Now let's go get em....Charge!
" remember boys and girls , hair gels , dinosaurs
use that new body cam at roll call , record all the unlawful orders from the unqualified merit hacks
upload asap" p.o. from another agency...been there done that, when it came time to retrieve footage for allegations, the answer was..."the camera was working (power On/Off) but not recording, we checked the camera & couldnt find what you are referring to, after that it was deleted, the camera didnt upload in that particular day" best bet us to get your own camera, under $60 Amazon
I worked 1st. watch. in 011 20 yrs ago. The watch consisted of young men and women of all races. They had short time on the job and limited experience but they were out there all night long bringing in guns, drugs, and Part Ones. They didn't deserve the commanders they had then and it appears that nothing has changed.
The headline under picture:
people gathered at the scene where Pierre Loury was shot and killed by a Chicago police officer.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-city-mom-can-see-video-from-cop-shooting-that-killed-son-16-20160425-story.html
How about headline "felonious thug attempts to kill police officers, they take action piece of dirt gang banger dead"
Just saw 'Deano' interviewed on Chicago Tonight with Phil Ponce. I came away thinking I was watching Phil interview someone at the 'kid's table.' Dean kept tripping over, on his way to a thought. Truly painful to watch and awful for the membership. The Mayor, Lightfoot, Ferguson, the shill's on the Task Force, must all be laughing at the ineptitude of the person sitting in the number 1 chair across the table.
Anonymous said...
Well thanks for the support Mr dickhead. Just so happens a couple of our new 3 year wonder POs (in a district not so very far from yours) that know how to do snapchat and Twitter and set up fake Facebook accts were able to "friend" some of these shitheads and see them online with guns. Because the shitheads are dumb, and they post EVERYTHING online. The new POs were able to recognize the area immediately and made an arrest, gun recovered. So these younger coppers aren't as dumb as you think. Me personally, I don't know how to do all that, I'm fetal as f$ck right now. But when they explained it to me I was impressed, it worked.
.... and I'm sure these 3 year wonder super troopers documented it properly, and are ready to walk the states attny through their investigative technique. Uh, oh yea, let's just make it a tragic stop
Perpetuating the myth of lies once again. Having worked in both districts I can tell you unequivocally that you are full of shit. West Side coppers know one thing, Dope. Anything that requires nuanced thought they are at a loss.
4/25/2016 12:04:00 PM
Nuanced thought about what, how to stay down on a possum in mailbox job for two hours? What a douche. Paint all west side coppers with a broad brush. All sorts of good police work gets done there on a daily basis. I suspect you didn't even work a west side district, because if you did, you wouldn't have made such an uninformed statement.
Just the fact of working there, officers are exposed to more shit daily than most other districts, so naturally they will have more experience over a wider range of situations.
Yes, I'm a west side copper and I do know dope when I see it, and that dope would be YOU!
There really isn't more than one or two people I like as bosses on this job. I have 30 years on...I've seen them come and go. I had Respect for the bosses when I first got on the job...they commanded respect but had an aura about them that conveyed they deserved it. These people now days...I got nothing. Respect the rank to a degree but not the person. As far as moving me to the ghetto...no thanks. I did my time there, where I learned and fought my way through it. When it was time to move on...I did. There is a time and place for everything...including this job. My heart does go out to our fine young Officers though. I know they have it rougher in some ways than I ever did. God's Soldiers...all of us. Peace to All of You in these rough times.
Wow, personal skills this guy has always been a jagoff and he brings up personal skills?
Why didn't he say how merit positions are by connections to clergy and not ability. He's another pawn for Rahm.
What really gets me is alot of these young officers are vets. What has he ever done?!?! Maybe the community should hear that. Dean, FOP start going after the brass that attacks it's own department
Clouted tool!
Completely clueless when protesters shut down 290, night after police involved shooting in 011.
Anonymous said...
I remember when I was "young and inexperienced". It was some of the better work of my career. I learned what to do on each arrest. I had that fire to go out and stop people. I got in some trouble because I was so young and inexperienced but getting in trouble is part of the learning process. Then I got a little more time on and continued to work. The numbers dropped off but the quality got better. The bs arrests dropped off but the good arrests picked up... Still made mistakes, still was learning and still was getting in some trouble.. But not as much as before. Got even more time on and started to get some whiskers. Learned a lot but not it all. Made real good arrests, used my head alot and started to be able to "feel" if people were dirty and knew how I was gonna play it out to catch them. Did that for a while then started slowing down quite a bit. Still like the job, just started to get tired and burnt out of the ghetto police life. Lots of tragedy, lots of death, lots of despair and depression to see everyday. Seeing the same thugs, same ghetto mess and same crap everyday takes a toll. Now I have a chance to slow it down and go to a slower paced district so I do it. I "retire" a little bit and my mind and body is able to start recuperate s little bit from the ghetto policing stressed and pressure. I've earned it. I've sacrificed my mind, body and time to go above and beyond in a hard area that brings no pleasure or accolades from its residents. Now it's time to get my body and mind back to a normal life so my family and I don't have to feel the "pressure" of a job in a bad area. I've done my time, served the ghetto and it took a terrible toll on my mind and body. It's a real thing. Ghetto Burn out is real and it takes s terrible toll. Do your time then pass the torch to the next group of young bucks to take the same road you did. I guess bosses or people who never really worked the ghetto have no clue about any of this...
4/25/2016 12:40:00 PM
Well said.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The idea of paying premium for working nights in fast districts was floated over the years whenever contract talks open up. It never got far and as you can see duty availability goes to everyone, no matter what job you have. Bring this back on the table. There is no reason a police officer who works days or holds an administrative job in a safe location should get the same pay as someone who works nights on the street in a fast district. Many cities allow this form of compensation. The progressives and cop haters are in the process , right now, of re-writing the contract to take away from you as much as they can in the way of job rights. They are for unions for everyone but the police.
4/25/2016 09:07:00 AM
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So an Officer who worked in the ghetto for 25 years, rotated watches while working the 6 & 2, should take a cut in pay because he chooses to go to a slower district closer to home as he winds down his career?
Sorry, it makes no sense
4/25/2016 05:39:00 PM
That idea has never been floated by anyone other than people who work in shit districts, along with the idea that working in the ghetto allows you a leg up into specialized units. It's a hair gel pipe dream. I've worked in these districts my whole career. You name a shit district, I've worked there. Do I deserve extra pay? No. Will I take it? Yes.
What a useless piece of shit. I bet he considers himself a great leader. Even if you think that about the hair gels, you don't fucking make it an official statement to the media.
cam. clip broke in fight w/ susp.
OT --
Just thinking --
Ofc. shot in shoulder, "non-life-threatening," I'm sure.
I took a fall against a corner in a place, std. drywall, 18 months ago or more and it will NOT go away. Hurts like a m.f., a lot. Deep, deep ache.
Slug through there? Going to bother you the rest of your life, on and off.
No "apps," just real.
4/25/2016 05:55:00 PM|
Sounds like you're abusing the medical and attempting to draw parallels between your situation and that of an officer shot in the line of duty. Go fuck yourself. This isn't your diary, and we're not interviewing you about your fakes and feigns... oops... aches and pains. Physical therapy and get back to work.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Racism in the police department the entitled merit supervisors should take a long look in the mirror and look how white officers are being treated by them.
4/25/2016 04:32:00 PM
Well, here's a thought...
Do you honestly think the black Coppers from the 1920's
through the 1970's had an easy time on this job?
Just sayin'...
Grown men with guns who get their rocks off on
mistreating other grown men with guns?
An ignorant-assed, miserable, failure of a human being
makes a bad boss no matter what kind of wrapper he/she/it
comes in.
Jones vs. Bubble-Head for a comparison/contrast.
And of course, neither one would give a "peon"
the air and opportunity to settle differences like
once upon a time.
Why...
Somebody(s) might have to take too severe of an
ass-beating, so none of the chronic offenders is going
to step away from the cover and shielding of rank
because they KNOW Coppers are in quite bad humor
lately with all the shit they're being forced to eat.
However... We do predict a series of violence in the
workplace incidents this summer as the pushing from
on high results in a defensive shove back.
Where in hell do you think all the "pressure"
is going to go?
Just an observation.
Police like a square...
Police like you have no friends.
He always has been an idiot.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Well thanks for the support Mr dickhead. Just so happens a couple of our new 3 year wonder POs (in a district not so very far from yours) that know how to do snapchat and Twitter and set up fake Facebook accts were able to "friend" some of these shitheads and see them online with guns. Because the shitheads are dumb, and they post EVERYTHING online. The new POs were able to recognize the area immediately and made an arrest, gun recovered. So these younger coppers aren't as dumb as you think. Me personally, I don't know how to do all that, I'm fetal as f$ck right now. But when they explained it to me I was impressed, it worked.
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tell your 3 year buddies to read the orders regarding social media at work!
while your at it give it a looksy yourself! it's obvious you never read it or you wouldn't have posted the above statement.
Hell has lots of special places for special people....yet again the definition of asshole expands.
this jackass sounds like a real idiot, berating the working coppers and not standing up for them when they are doing the job they were hired for.... sounds like everyone in 11 needs to file complaints against this jackass and hopefully he gets removed. the bad thing is if he is our lovely mayors boyfriend....it will never happen
Anonymous Anonymous said...
He should be demoted for such a statement. The essence/failure of leadership on this job is what tends to lead us down the wrong road. Perhaps a no confidence vote is in order.
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well what's the rule? I mean, really? if a lower guy busts on an upper guy in public, he can be fired. but it doesn't work the other way?
what if a patrolman went on live tv and said all the bosses were illiterate merit hacks? think there would be an repercussions?
Can anyone speak as to the type of officer James Jones was?
He's not so far off the mark.... After all anyone with time knows better than to get involved anymore... Imagine what his stats would look like with a bunch of 20yrs plus guys in his district ...lol! He should be grateful for the youngsters he's got! Hahaha! Aside from that he insulted the shit out of those under his command. Has he tried to talk to the good citizens over there ? Honestly you can make more sense out of playing a video game..more intelligent and stimulating...lol.
5:16pm. Ull still get an annuity every month but they calculate it a certain way. I looked into it a year ago and to leave with 14yrs on I wouldve only gotten $669 a month. Don't See 16YRS would bump that dollar amount much higher. Better find a good spot n ride it out for 20.
If you leave after 16 years of service do you still get a pension? Thinking that may be best for the family unfortunately. I dont see this thing turning around. Two years ago it wasn't even a thought but this has taken a turn for the absurd and while I still love the job I fear I will go to jail for just doing my job.
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After 16 years you should know the answer.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If you leave after 16 years of service do you still get a pension? Thinking that may be best for the family unfortunately. I dont see this thing turning around. Two years ago it wasn't even a thought but this has taken a turn for the absurd and while I still love the job I fear I will go to jail for just doing my job.
4/25/2016 05:16:00 PM
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Yes. You are vested at ten years. You can phone the retirement board and have them crunch the numbers. Most likely, it will not be much more than three or four hundred bucks.
Do the math. Stick and stay and make it pay.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Whoa I'm impress we have such leadership on this department hurrah for me and f@ck you. I'll bet he sure enjoyed the seniority for what little time he spent patrol, sgt or what ever he did until all his merit promotion kick in to the point he did not need seniority. If they take this away than we have nothing and there should be no more union dues because FOP does nothing to stand up for us, don't hear a peep out of them. Morale does no exist on this department just ignorance merit bosses like Jones who are lucky to find there way to work.
4/25/2016 01:07:00 PM
Don't pay dues. Become a fair share member. Never need a lawyer at IAD or OPS/IPRA? Than your not the police.
Jones vs. Bubble-Head for a comparison/contrast.
And of course, neither one would give a "peon"
the air and opportunity to settle differences like
once upon a time.
I am not sure what the above writer is referring to. I came on the job in the late 60's and I have never seen cops fighting supervisors in the parking lot and I have seen some pretty bad supervisors over the years. Just not civilized behavior. I do recall black officers and white officers sitting on opposite sides of the roll call room, but I have never witnessed white supervisors treating only black cops badly, I am not saying it did not happen, but I have never witnessed it. But, I have witnessed, many time, female officers treated badly by white supervisors, captains and commanders and also by a black superintendent in 1983 as I was in his office when he made pretty bad comments. I have also witnessed the racism of black commanders on the south side of the city in the 80's and 90's. It was open and blatant and they did not care. If you were white you were not going to get a break or a good district assignment.
So an Officer who worked in the ghetto for 25 years, rotated watches while working the 6 & 2, should take a cut in pay because he chooses to go to a slower district closer to home as he winds down his career?
Sorry, it makes no sense
4/25/2016 05:39:00 PM
I did not say it made sense, only that the idea has come up a few times and is in fact being used in various cities as incentive for experienced officers to stay in fast districts. That is what a union is for. Tell them how you feel and what you want. This year will be the toughest year in union negotiations since the early 80's. The alderman and liberal politicians will try to strip you of all of your job rights. This is already happening in Springfield and I don't think any Chicago politician has the guts to oppose the liberal groups.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Rule 2 violation-any action which brings discredit upon the Department including all acts which would degrade or bring disrespect upon the member or the department
Rule 8 disrespect any person
Rule 11 incompetency or inefficiency
Don't forget Rule 50,
Conduct Unbecoming an Officer or City Employee (IIRC)
JJ knows because he has personal skills. Just ask coppers who have worked with him. Better yet, just ask him, he knows everything.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just saw 'Deano' interviewed on Chicago Tonight with Phil Ponce. I came away thinking I was watching Phil interview someone at the 'kid's table.' Dean kept tripping over, on his way to a thought. Truly painful to watch and awful for the membership. The Mayor, Lightfoot, Ferguson, the shill's on the Task Force, must all be laughing at the ineptitude of the person sitting in the number 1 chair across the table.
4/25/2016 08:12:00 PM
I agree completely. Wouldn't you assume beforehand that you'd be asked about ISR's? Couldn't you predict you'd be asked about the ACLU effect, manpower, allocation of resources? Since you stated you believed the panel report on racism in the department was biased, you could guess you'd be asked to elaborate on that.
But, no; he went to that interview pitifully unprepared. That meandering opening comment about 'doing his own research' was excruciating to watch. He appears uncertain and lacks confidence, which, by extension, makes us look weak and incompetent.
He either needs to do his homework and be better prepared, or he needs an 'official spokesman for the FOP' to make appearances on behalf of the union.
Anonymous said...
Wow, personal skills this guy has always been a jagoff and he brings up personal skills?
Why didn't he say how merit positions are by connections to clergy and not ability. He's another pawn for Rahm.
What really gets me is alot of these young officers are vets. What has he ever done?!?! Maybe the community should hear that. Dean, FOP start going after the brass that attacks it's own department
4/25/2016 09:21:00 PM
AgreedDean is holed up in fop hall, what ever happened to "I'm a tough guy" greg bella? He really clammed up after that missing money scandal why is he at FOP anyway? Another silent stfu weak chair holder at the hall! On the subject of Vets I agree so many coppers now are vets,and are trained properly but they come back from a military structured environment to this, where we have bosses who have cute gold badges and have no clue what they are doing, we need real leaders not the poseurs in the white shirts, who retire and wreck the pension with triple dip pension payouts for life! On that subject Kenny hauser Mike lappe any progress on eliminating this gold star theft of pension? Put it to a member vote, its our money or will you vote to give say another 60 million gamble to the daleys nephew crew dv urban realty you know they only lost the full 60 million, but yet were allowed to keep 9 million of coppers money in "finder fees!" have you finally called in the feds to investigate and indict these criminals, and also whoever signed off on this massive fraud? Did you?
" Dean, FOP start going after the brass that attacks it's own department
4/25/2016 09:21:00 PM"
That will be the day. Didn't read the previous post, he's going after Officers on Duty Disability. Good to see he has his priorities in order.
"Paint all west side coppers with a broad brush. All sorts of good police work gets done there on a daily basis. I suspect you didn't even work a west side district, because if you did, you wouldn't have made such an uninformed statement.
Just the fact of working there, officers are exposed to more shit daily than most other districts, so naturally they will have more experience over a wider range of situations."
As opposed to staying on a one rock pinch for 1/2 the tour, go to lunch, Then grab a weed pinch for the other 1/2 of your tour. You're right good work is done by the Supervisors that have to hold your hand at a Baby Momma Drama because You can't a make a decision and the Dicks because you can't secure a crime scene properly.
You're no better than Officers working anywhere else.Been there done that.
I left because I got tired of nonsense, and Strokes like you.
If you leave after 16 years of service do you still get a pension? Thinking that may be best for the family unfortunately. I dont see this thing turning around. Two years ago it wasn't even a thought but this has taken a turn for the absurd and while I still love the job I fear I will go to jail for just doing my job.
4/25/2016 05:16:00 PM
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Yes. You are vested at ten years. You can phone the retirement board and have them crunch the numbers. Most likely, it will not be much more than three or four hundred bucks.
Do the math. Stick and stay and make it pay.
4/26/2016 09:44:00 AM
Three or four hundred bucks? Not at all. If you're making 80k per year and you have the age to collect which would be 50, then you would pull down about 32k per year. 16 years would give you 40% pension.
As opposed to staying on a one rock pinch for 1/2 the tour, go to lunch, Then grab a weed pinch for the other 1/2 of your tour. You're right good work is done by the Supervisors that have to hold your hand at a Baby Momma Drama because You can't a make a decision and the Dicks because you can't secure a crime scene properly.
You're no better than Officers working anywhere else.Been there done that.
I left because I got tired of nonsense, and Strokes like you.
4/26/2016 05:06:00 PM
There you go again Sparky, painting everyone with the same broad brush.
I never claimed officers here are better than officers working anywhere else. I was just saying it is busy, and therefore officers learn faster than slower districts.
One last thing, who you trying to bullshit, you left because you're skeert. Enjoy Boystown. 5F.
“They don’t have any personal skills. They never learned.”
JONES you just perfectly described yourself. A do nothing merit hack who knows less about police work than a PPO. In ALL the years I've known and seen you on this job, you are one of the biggest racists to walk the earth . . . oh wait, never mind I sound like you now.
To the officer who started "when I was young and inexperienced" You are right. It is the same with me. Sometimes I feel it's still with me and I have to go back. Strange that I feel I must go back after seeing such horrible things. I have been retired over 20 years and still felel it. Your not alone brother. Stay Strong.
Anonymous said...
Just saw 'Deano' interviewed on Chicago Tonight with Phil Ponce. I came away thinking I was watching Phil interview someone at the 'kid's table.' Dean kept tripping over, on his way to a thought. Truly painful to watch and awful for the membership. The Mayor, Lightfoot, Ferguson, the shill's on the Task Force, must all be laughing at the ineptitude of the person sitting in the number 1 chair across the table.
4/25/2016 08:12:00 PM
I watched it and I think your wrong. Dean could have done an hour but got what 12 minutes?
But then again you may have others motives for weakening the union? For your own political gain?
Harsh words coming from a dog a** DC who has never done anything on this job! Take that Gold Star & shove it up your a** ya clown!
Yes. You are vested at ten years. You can phone the retirement board and have them crunch the numbers. Most likely, it will not be much more than three or four hundred bucks.
Do the math. Stick and stay and make it pay.
4/26/2016 09:44:00 AM
Three or four hundred bucks? Not at all. If you're making 80k per year and you have the age to collect which would be 50, then you would pull down about 32k per year. 16 years would give you 40% pension.
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Phone the retirement board and report back with their numbers and not your guesstimates.
4/26/2016 07:50:00 PM
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