Ramsey's Parting Thought
- Three months ago, Mayor Rahm Emanuel defended the $350-an-hour fee he had agreed to pay Charles Ramsey to help guide the Chicago Police Department through a federal civil rights investigation triggered by the police shooting of Laquan McDonald.
The Justice Department investigation is expected to drag on deep into 2017. But the show will go on without Ramsey.
After billing the city for $37,490 in consulting work, Ramsey is bowing out as a paid adviser.
“Chief Ramsey originally agreed to act as a consultant on a limited basis, but because of his own commitments can no longer play that formal role. However, he has agreed to continue serving the new superintendent as an informal adviser free of charge,” newly-appointed Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson was quoted as saying in an emailed statement.
Free of charge? That's a bargain then, after $37,000.
But this paragraph made us laugh out loud:
But this paragraph made us laugh out loud:
- Ramsey could not be reached for comment.
But sources described Ramsey as troubled by the degree to which the mayor’s office attempts to micromanage the Chicago Police Department — so much so that he urged top brass to “man up.”
You mean like not stripping officers for clearly reasonable actions five years ago as a political favor to a mayor who suppressed an politically inconvenient video? Or providing cover for the wives, girlfriends and significant others of assorted exempt members? That kind of "man[ning] up"?
Don't hold your breath.
Don't hold your breath.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
108 Comments:
If you read the sun tunes article rahm talks about getting rid of ipra and re-opening the police contract. How can he re-open the police contract? I was always under the assumption is legally binding. Wtf is going on!
Political power has it's privileges. That is life.
Chuck ain't stupid...
He doesn't want his name to be associated
with THIS shit-show.
He basically called Rahm on his
conniving, prevaricating, weasel-like,
micro-manager, narrative scripting,
agenda setting ways.
Calling bullshit is likely a contributory causative
for him not getting the nod for
Superintendent from Crime King Shorty.
Regardless of his personal dalliances
and peccadilloes...
Ramsey is getting the fuck out of the way
because he can see the train from the
Circus of Fuckery bearing down on the
stalled hearse from a clown funeral...
Car parts, flames, big noses, long shoes,
brightly colored hair and a not
inconsiderable amount of shit
flying every which way.
Is it tragedy?
Is it comedy?
Or just a sad and sorry sign
of the times?
...And did Ramsey not infer that the
exempt echelon are a bunch of self serving pussies
only interested in stealing a $100K+ pension
and setting the table to hit licks for their
next $100K+ jobs?
The "best qualified and most competent?"
In a dead dog's hockey-dot...
Nice payday for not even stepping into 35th St. Cork soaker.
Chief Ramsey was rather restrained. That is less than three weeks worth of billing. A good but hungry lawyer could bill that by noon on Friday of the first week. I bet one of Rahm's buddies could bill the city for 3,500 hours in the four months Ramsey consulted.
(FYI There are about 2,900 hours in four months, 30 days times 4 months times 24 hours per day)
No one voluntarily walks away from such a sweet gig. I guess he couldn't be Rahm's puppet?
But sources described Ramsey as troubled by the degree to which the mayor’s office attempts to micromanage the Chicago Police Department — so much so that he urged top brass to “man up.”
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See, no matter who is in that top role, City Hall runs it; and in the end, the top cop will be the scapegoat. McCarthy is the one who MAN UP - he must have been doing something right. Everybody wants to complain about him but the truth is he tried to make reforms and try to cut down the shootings... Look at the shootings and killings now. Boy, I bet he is sitting back shaking his head, and Rahm, I bet, is regretting that move of making him the scapegoat.
Long, hot summer ahead. Bullets are flying everywhere and though it doesn't matter if gangbusters cancel each other out, a few innocent people/standbys will get hit - and that's when the real outrage will happen: but then it will be too late.
Mayor Rahm is the legal and actual boss of the CPD. Who can blame him for running things. That is what bosses do and people elected him to take charge.
Please tell us again Chuck, why weren't you chosen as superintendent?
BGA Article coming out about more "suspect" shootings from years past. At what point is a bad guy just a bad guy who got shot for doing bad things to good people?! This isn't journalism anymore, it's just plain and simple tabloid trash to incite the lowest common denominator of our culture. GARBAGE IN, GARBAGE OUT!
Best of luck to those lumped into this article because we know with the current winds it could mean CALLBACK for you!
Anyone have the names of the "micro managers" at City Hall who try to run the police department ? Is it the same crew of cover up artists who left Rahm's political career in ruins ? Eddie Johnson certainly needs no advice from these second rate & low rent failures/police haters
Anonymous said...
Anyone have the names of the "micro managers" at City Hall who try to run the police department ? Is it the same crew of cover up artists who left Rahm's political career in ruins ? Eddie Johnson certainly needs no advice from these second rate & low rent failures/police haters
4/27/2016 05:26:00 AM
Its the Deputy Chief of Staff for Public Safety
"City Hall" means Steve Patton, the corporation counsel. Forget all the other department heads, he's the one Rahm needs to send packing. Dan Webb, are you paying attention?
Crime will be on the way down soon. Rahm's strategy is the Lucus Museum. He set up a dog and pony show with the reverends and contractors who said that the hiring of thousands of residents will basically give members of the community better life options other then crime. I like his spin. You have to give him credit for coming up with this nonsense in an attempt to save the project. The cost for tax payers (the ones that are left), the cost per job? Don't look there.
He was missing the old days of soaking in that exempt check and having his desk dollies actually do all the work.
If you need advice when you take the lead of 1 of the largest police departments in the world then you are over your head!
Eddie HATE to tell you this but you can't carry your friends and lover in the high speed world of dodging the bus on a daily basis.
I know its nice to have a FIANCE' to fall back on but cmon DUDE.
Find some smart fricking people and start using them! Way too many exempts with merit promotion and lame college degrees.
maybe Chuck didn't want to take more orders from the Hall......or, maybe he needed a new partner to help him "walk the dog"....
"HOWDY DOODY", was the micro manager who brought the "caps" program, never worked
in getto, more like a coffee/cookie beef club!
If you read the sun tunes article rahm talks about getting rid of ipra and re-opening the police contract. How can he re-open the police contract? I was always under the assumption is legally binding. Wtf is going on!
Well look who just woke up!
If you took the time to attend a FOP meeting or two, you have heard that the Lodge agreed that BOTH could go back to renegotiate. To quote our fearless leader, "It's a good thing".
By the way when was the last time anyone of those FOP elected leaders worked a beat car in a district?
"Goddamnit Woman, you give that Loch Ness Monster tree-fitty again, he ain't never goin away!!"
I heard they are taking orders from George Lucas.
Nicely said Chuckie-baby.
I see the Lt list is out. What a slap in the face of the "backbone" of the Dept. Only THREE Sgt's on the list are from Patrol. The other 15 from units and of course two more from IAD. Which all of the complaints against bad officers, when did they all have time to study? Oh yea they studied the test questions on company time.
What a solo in the face to make more promotions from a test that is under investigation by the IG and DOJ.
".. so much so that he urged top brass to “man up.”
Crap, I spit my coffee out on the keyboard!
I don't know where to start with that statement.
Although I would start with a word that rhymes with 'halls'.
Year to Date
Shot & Killed: 163
Shot & Wounded: 934
Total Shot: 1097
Total Homicides: 185
Peter Nickeas and Megan Crepeau Reporters Chicago Tribune
Two men were shot, one fatally, in the Back of the Yards neighborhood, among at least six people injured in Chicago shootings since late afternoon Tuesday.
Hiram Grau is another merit made man who should hit the road.
5:07AM
The answer is Corporation Counsel Steve Patton.
You would actually have to have a pair of ball to man up. Most of our exempts have no balls at all.
Anonymous said...
If you read the sun tunes article rahm talks about getting rid of ipra and re-opening the police contract. How can he re-open the police contract? I was always under the assumption is legally binding. Wtf is going on!
4/27/2016 12:21:00 AM
He can re-open our contract after he re-opens the parking meter contract.
There were strong rumors back in the 90's when Ramsey and Hillard were both finalists for superintendent. The rumors said that Daley selected Hillard because he feared the independence of Ramsey and thought Ramsey might run for mayor. And, the mayor felt he could control Hillard. Ramsey then left the city for Washington D.C. Daley turned the police department into his patronage playground , something that continues to this day.
Anonymous said...
Mayor Rahm is the legal and actual boss of the CPD. Who can blame him for running things. That is what bosses do and people elected him to take charge.
4/27/2016 03:53:00 A
The police superintendent is a cabinet member of the Mayor of Chicago and is accountable to the mayor, no doubt about that. But, micro managing is another thing, especially when the mayor appoints or approves every promotion and the political class can make phone calls to influence promotions and assignments, and in some cases have arrestees released without charges. Now, that is plain wrong, but it happens and has happened as long as I can go back and I can go back to the late 60's. This system kills morale, makes cops cynical and hurts performance and covers for bad cops.
Terrible past,bad future,for what was a great department,too bad those in charge don't really care,and if they do its all about the money!
Can the FOP update the April newsletter on the web page finally? Dean cant even do the simplest of things.
Can anyone name a single gold star who actually passed all the tests and was promoted on the legit? Hint:: there are none!
$37,000 as a consultant.
Well taxpayers should ask for transparency on this and see what exactly
was the product that was secured for this payment?
There must be documents, reports, emails, texts and minutes from meetings.
We have a ton of retired officers in diffrent ranks that would have given thier opinions
for much less.
But I am curious as to what Ramsey had to contribute to this mess.
Please FOIA this and get back to SCC
>>> 'But sources described Ramsey as troubled by the degree to which the mayor’s office attempts to micromanage the Chicago Police Department — so much so that he urged top brass to “man up.” ' <<<
So in other words Ramsey was shocked -- Shocked!...I tell ya! -- when he found that the mayor of Chicago was playing the role of De facto Supt of the CPD. Which in itself *should be* shocking since Ramsey was a career Chicago copper and was a Deputy Police Superintendent when he left Chicago in 1998.
Only a person with the IQ of a stick would fall for the idea that Mayor Richard M Daley, aka; Shortshanks, aka; The Village Idiot, didn't stick his nose into the running of the Chicago PD when Daley was mayor.
As to Ramsey's consulting fees -- they're really not out of line. Before I retired and had my own business I charged from $1,000 to $1,500 a Day for HVAC Engineering Consultation. Ramsey's fees 'stick in the craw' because Chicago is f-king BROKE, yet the Nine Digit Miget continues to throw money around like he's King Farouk.
Wait! So, you mean RAHM runs the Chicago Police Dept, when all's said and done?
Nooo! Do tell!
Seriously, people, this can't be news to anyone. But just in case it is, here's another shocker for you: EVERY OTHER MAYOR, in EVERY OTHER MAJOR CITY, operates the same way.
Hell, even Mayor Stoner told Sheriff Taylor what was what, in Mayberry.
(Andy Griffith Show reference) For you Hairgels.
You're welcome :-)
Ramsey was very frustrated because Rahm would not listen to him. he thought things were bad in terms of city hall controlling the Police Department under Daley, but could not believe how city hall controls the CPD down to minutia. he thought the report made some good points, but was very badly flawed and made some very big errors as well. he was not charging the city nearly what he could have made elsewhere and just figured if they aren't going to listen to him, why hit his head against the wall. And, he did want exempt members to man up and support the troops and fight city hall on some things.
Rahm N Noodle is an amazing puppet master! Looks like he doesnt use his two arms to control his "puppets". Maybe he uses his "meat puppet" to control his unholy muppets?!
Ramsey was my commander in 011. The best African American boss at the time. One main reason he never made superintendent is he had some domestic issues.
Anonymous said...
But sources described Ramsey as troubled by the degree to which the mayor’s office attempts to micromanage the Chicago Police Department — so much so that he urged top brass to “man up.”
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See, no matter who is in that top role, City Hall runs it; and in the end, the top cop will be the scapegoat. McCarthy is the one who MAN UP - he must have been doing something right. Everybody wants to complain about him but the truth is he tried to make reforms and try to cut down the shootings... Look at the shootings and killings now. Boy, I bet he is sitting back shaking his head, and Rahm, I bet, is regretting that move of making him the scapegoat.
Long, hot summer ahead. Bullets are flying everywhere and though it doesn't matter if gangbusters cancel each other out, a few innocent people/standbys will get hit - and that's when the real outrage will happen: but then it will be too late.
4/27/2016 03:46:00 AM
So if Rahm hired Garry back today the shootings and killings would stop? Ummm weren't they on the way up before he was tossed? Professionally he dodged a bullet by getting fired because for the rest of his life he will lie and say the shootings and killing skyrocketed after he left even though not much changed internally after he left. And people will actually allow him to say that though no person with any critical thought would accept that his departure made the city fall apart in weeks...yeah buddy, sure...
Mayor Rahm is the legal and actual boss of the CPD. Who can blame him for running things. That is what bosses do and people elected him to take charge.
4/27/2016 03:53:00 AM
Then Rahm should name himself superintendent and save the city the cost of the salary and benefits. He could contribute it to the CPD Pension Fund.
Let's see... An "informal adviser", I personally don't think you can blame them or throw them under the bus... Cause you don't need the take their advice. But at the end of the day, this is Chicago- the shit hole of. The real world does not apply to this 3 ring circus
Chuck aint dumb. He sees that he cannot and will not make a difference. Why ruin his brand propping up Rahm's disaster? There are other city departments he can make a difference and some coin without shredding his reputation.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If you read the sun tunes article rahm talks about getting rid of ipra and re-opening the police contract. How can he re-open the police contract? I was always under the assumption is legally binding. Wtf is going on!
4/27/2016 12:21:00 AM
While you at it rahm, look into exempts huge undeserved possibly illegal dip into pension funds. Why are these clowns allowed to take such a huge chunk for essentially doing nothing, civil service rank only! Again hauser and Lappe how about putting this nonsense theft to a membership vote! It's our money correct? We are the "shareholders" correct? Yes correct! As a matter of fact rahm what is this patrolmen on your detail getting commanders pay and pensions? the others are getting the made up "security specialist" title and getting sergeants pay and sergeants pensions? Was at the range and watched a couple of them shoot wow and they protect you lol!
Dean what is wrong with you? In the movie with Patrick swayze RIP, he made a profound statement "No one puts baby in the corner" as he rescued her and danced with her made her a hero! Now back to you Dean your in the corner huddling like a rape victim, will anyone recuse you and make you stand up, i know your small you could stand up on a box or ladder, but please stand up! You could step aside and wake up Greg Bella he at 1 time had a voice for the police but now he is silenced also :yawn!
38K to tell the City heads that this Dept. is fucked up?
Priceless! Thanks for playing, Chuck!
Well let's ask Jodi Weiss and Gary McCarthy to come back to advise the CPD.
It makes as much sense as Ramsey, Lightfoot and whoever the new IPRA
director is.
No I got it let's ask the new Lieutenants Fenner and Barz to show us how to survive
in the BS they now call CPD.....
We are screwed and we are paying for it.
If they want to reopen contract, make sure they take out the strike prohibition and merit promotions.
Rahm's got his greasy 9.5 digits all over the department.
I hope the goofy coppers who voted for this asshole are happy with their poor decision.
OT
The IG's office has served 2 Sgt's and 2 new Lie-Tenants with official allegations of wrongdoing. Apparently they have stacks of emails sent via Dept email between EW and themselves and between each other. Some of the emails have the actual test questions from the Lt Test. Doesn't look like the impending retirement of EW is stopping the IG from going after the cheaters. Let's see if they are willing to get caught in a lie and risk getting fired for rule 14 violations
Mayor Rahm is the legal and actual boss of the CPD. Who can blame him for running things. That is what bosses do and people elected him to take charge.
4/27/2016 03:53:00 AM
Rahm is the Mayor and places supervisors to run the areas under his control The police department is part of that. He appoints a Superintendent. I know the rubber stamp City Counsel votes on it, but the Mayor picks him.
This doesn't give him carte blanch to interfere in investigations, hold back any evidence, or punish an officer or supervisor because he is unhappy that they did not do as he commanded. He is an elected official, not the king. He can set the tone, even set policy, but he is not the Almighty and he is not above the law.
Anonymous said...
"HOWDY DOODY", was the micro manager who brought the "caps" program, never worked
in getto, more like a coffee/cookie beef club!
4/27/2016 07:31:00 AM
If your speaking of Chuck Ramsey, He worked in A4 Task Force for sure and I believe also in 011
The IG's office has served 2 Sgt's and 2 new Lie-Tenants with official allegations of wrongdoing. Apparently they have stacks of emails sent via Dept email between EW and themselves and between each other. Some of the emails have the actual test questions from the Lt Test. Doesn't look like the impending retirement of EW is stopping the IG from going after the cheaters. Let's see if they are willing to get caught in a lie and risk getting fired for rule 14 violations
I'd bet dollars to doughnuts someone else, with a W initial is one of the Lts.
This shit gone be good.
OT: the TV, print media and liberals always bring up gun control when it comes to shootings. Question for the media/libs: how many guns are in Englewood, Gresham, Austin? And how many guns are in Mt Greenwood, Sauganash, Garfield Ridge? Probably similar amounts due to the amount of CPD who live in the latter three neighborhoods. Yet, the shootings by the community in these communities are pretty much non-existent. Same tool, pull trigger it shoots. So maybe the guns aren't the problem media/libs. Maybe it's something called self responsibility that's lacking in certain neighborhoods
City run by a dumb fuck, the Department run by the ACLU, and it's white shirts running around scared. Blue shirts apathetic, and constantly counting their days until retirement. Fuck this City and screw this upside down Department. Let it burn
Why even have a super if the mayor has always been the dick head in charge. Just another layer of insulation from the FEDS. Cancel the position effective immediately!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If you read the sun tunes article rahm talks about getting rid of ipra and re-opening the police contract. How can he re-open the police contract? I was always under the assumption is legally binding. Wtf is going on!
Well look who just woke up!
If you took the time to attend a FOP meeting or two, you have heard that the Lodge agreed that BOTH could go back to renegotiate. To quote our fearless leader, "It's a good thing".
By the way when was the last time anyone of those FOP elected leaders worked a beat car in a district?
4/27/2016 07:43:00 AM
I've been up, and know that they agreed the contract can be reopened. But, Rahm was stating it like its an inevitable. The fop doesn't have to reopen it. There would be no point to reopening it. Nothing would benefit us. We lost our asses last contract because fop pushed it and most of the coppers were terrified of an arbitrator. We are the only city department to give up and lose as much as we did. The fop better not renagotiate residency either. That should not be on the table. Residency should be brought to Supreme Court via law suit. Fop is way out of their league here. Call the state lodge. Lodge 7 needs help.
it's not that easy to make meetings when youre not retired and have a family. How about our "unit reps" actually do their job and relay info. last time a unit rep ever addressed a roll call I was at was 2007. How freaking pathetic. But, the way Rahm was quoted
For those of us unfamiliar with the term:
What is "stripping"?
nonymous said...
Rahm's got his greasy 9.5 digits all over the department.
I hope the goofy coppers who voted for this asshole are happy with their poor decision.
4/27/2016 03:32:00 PM
he has been no different then any of his predecessors. Nothing will break the chain until an independent runs and wins the office. Who would that be? Certainly not anyone I can think of.
Stripping is when any Law Enforcement officer has his Identification and police
powers removed pending investigations.
1127X said...
Wait! So, you mean RAHM runs the Chicago Police Dept, when all's said and done?
Nooo! Do tell!
Seriously, people, this can't be news to anyone. But just in case it is, here's another shocker for you: EVERY OTHER MAYOR, in EVERY OTHER MAJOR CITY, operates the same way.
Hell, even Mayor Stoner told Sheriff Taylor what was what, in Mayberry.
(Andy Griffith Show reference) For you Hairgels.
You're welcome :-)
4/27/2016 11:38:00 AM
And what, Genius, do you base this observation on? I think that you are way off base and totally misinformed. There are states that actually have criminal laws that prohibit the conduct that you claim is normal. And, many thinking police chiefs actually have language in their contracts to prohibit this type of interference and interference is what it is. Accountability is one thing, interference and micro managing is another.
This is Illinois
Where our politicians make our license plates in jail.
This is Chicago Police Department.
Where it is cheated on not earned......
I've been up, and know that they agreed the contract can be reopened. But, Rahm was stating it like its an inevitable. The fop doesn't have to reopen it. There would be no point to reopening it. Nothing would benefit us. We lost our asses last contract because fop pushed it and most of the coppers were terrified of an arbitrator. We are the only city department to give up and lose as much as we did. The fop better not renagotiate residency either. That should not be on the table. Residency should be brought to Supreme Court via law suit. Fop is way out of their league here. Call the state lodge. Lodge 7 needs help.
it's not that easy to make meetings when youre not retired and have a family. How about our "unit reps" actually do their job and relay info. last time a unit rep ever addressed a roll call I was at was 2007. How freaking pathetic. But, the way Rahm was quoted
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the supreme court and no other lower court will hear the residency bullshit--- why? cause they too hate the police... year one if you learn everyone hates the police, you will save yourself a lot of time... they people you hate, are the people you work for--- go write it 100 times and remember that
bobby said...
For those of us unfamiliar with the term:
What is "stripping"?
4/27/2016 06:33:00 PM
Sheltered life?
For those of us unfamiliar with the term:
What is "stripping"?
Stripping is:
A. Relieving ourselves of clothing
B. Removing paint with a chemical solvent
c. Removing the bark from a tree
D. None of the above
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
If you read the sun tunes article rahm talks about getting rid of ipra and re-opening the police contract. How can he re-open the police contract? I was always under the assumption is legally binding. Wtf is going on!
4/27/2016 12:21:00 AM
He can re-open our contract after he re-opens the parking meter contract.
4/27/2016 09:06:00 AM
Yup.
For those of us unfamiliar with the term:
What is "stripping"?
4/27/2016 06:33:00 PM
If you were the police, you would know what it means.
Go away troll.
Hey Rahm:
Open this!!
You're not going to be able to reopen our contract.
Save all your great ideas to negotiate in our next contract.... but remember nothing is free. If you want concessions on our part be prepared to give up concessions on your part.
06:33pm - Stripping is when you have to turn in your star, hat shield, and police ID card, but you don't turn in your firearm since we - not the city - own it. You just better not be carrying it home still loaded & holstered. Then you get a civilian ID card and are assigned to work the 311 center, AKA the Rubber Gun Squad.
Ramsey spoke his mind and now he's out, hmmmm. Comment Mayor?
So, I'm not sure if anyone else's district has had this yet, but we were surprised yesterday by the sudden arrival of a civilian employee working behind the district desk without fore warning, handing out radios, being trained on AIRA, having I-clear access, not to mention the equipment, old shotguns, rifles. This person has access to all of our computer systems, employee information, leads, ect. All the access we have. No badge, no oath taken. A 3 week stint in the academy. Doing more with less I guess. Did they not learn their lesson three years ago when police officers homes were being burglarized and weapons taken, turns out the source was a civilian with login credentials?! In this current era of no accountability and police hatred, we now have people that have unabated access to not only the computer systems, but the actual police station. Un-fucking believeable.
Blogger bobby said...
For those of us unfamiliar with the term:
What is "stripping"?
4/27/2016 06:33:00 PM
If you don't know what stripping is, a term that even the newspapers use, I have no idea why you are here. Happy Hunting!
If you wanna make the cabbage, get into pllitics. Look at all the loot these uneducated assholes are stashing away.
I'm trying to understand tge mentality of CPD. When Weis was here the union gave him a vote of no confidence even though he did more good for CPD then bad. McCarthy destroyed this police department and FOP was as quiet as lambs. Never even mentioned a vote of no confidence. EJ in his first week throws coppers under the bus and FOP zero response. Exactly why do we need a union?
This study found race matters in police shootings, but the results may surprise you...the story is in the washington post and was in yahoo news. ver intresting.
When your local union fails you, its time to rally your co workers and vote your officals out. Its the only way, lead from within. I understand we are all busy, work, family, ect. But really most issues are handled with a phone call or email. Dont be lax and allow the weak to lead. Ive been warned our meetings are recorded, beacuse when i talk i tell the people straight out how things are. You dont like it go pound sand cock knuckle!
The President
Can anyone name a single gold star who actually passed all the tests and was promoted on the legit? Hint:: there are none!
Buslik, Lemmer, Deenahan, I would bet there are more.
OT:
I got a mailing yesterday from AARP asking for signatures on a petition because Rauner wants to tax retirement income. Usually AARP gets involved only in national issues but this time it involves only Illinois. AARP understands Rauner is serious about taxing retirement income. That INCLUDES our pension!
Where is FOP on this? Not word from Dean Angelo but I get a mailing from AARP. WTF
What was Ramsey's excuse in Philly? What a waste of "consulting" money he was. And Fuck all these other so called committee's leeching money. Thats all it is people getting paid.
"it's not that easy to make meetings when youre not retired and have a family. How about our "unit reps" actually do their job and relay info. last time a unit rep ever addressed a roll call I was at was 2007. How freaking pathetic. But, the way Rahm was quoted
4/27/2016 06:20:00 PM"
This is just the type of apathy that the FOP relies on to implement their own agendas. Herad tose same tired ass excuses for years. I would bet next months paycheck you never even bothered to put the ballot in the mail. But hey it's those worthless Unit Reps fault.
No it's lazy whining assholes like you that are the problem.
It's bad when the consultant hired to plug the hole on the Titanic jumps ship.
The IG's office has served 2 Sgt's and 2 new Lie-Tenants with official allegations of wrongdoing. Apparently they have stacks of emails sent via Dept email between EW and themselves and between each other. Some of the emails have the actual test questions from the Lt Test. Doesn't look like the impending retirement of EW is stopping the IG from going after the cheaters. Let's see if they are willing to get caught in a lie and risk getting fired for rule 14 violations
I'd bet dollars to doughnuts someone else, with a W initial is one of the Lts.
This shit gone be good.
***Bet you again nothing comes of it. Ferguson is a political hack who picks his battles on the inside but outside tries to make the public think he is a true IG hero.
Dan Webb, are you paying attention?
To that juveniles shitlocker
Short eYE
"For those of us unfamiliar with the term:
What is "stripping"?"
Meet me tomorrow night at Polk and Clinton and I'll show you. Hint, bring lots of singles!
Ramsey could no longer sit idly by while 9.5 micromanaged this police department. Says it all about this 2 term communist, self enriching wonder who has a ton of african american blood on his hands because he refuses to provide the proper protection for the citizens of this city. Hey rahm, Do you feel the walls closing in?
To Poster 4/27/2016 - 0731: Chuck Ramsey worked a beat car and was assigned to the 010th District Tactical Team. He then was transferred to Area 4 Task Force. He and many other Black PO was drafted by the Department to diversify the Task Force. Once he and the other Black PO got to Area 4 they all where assigned to work with White PO. The Department broke up White partners and paired them with the Black Officers. He was a hard working Police Officer who made many arrests. Some of the Officers both White and Black were upset about working with each other. Ramsey on the other hand was very congenial about the situation. He tried to get along with everyone. I worked with him for a period of time and he was a very good partner. Don't get me wrong I was pissed off that me and my partner got split up but we both made the best of it. After he got promoted and left, whenever we would run into each other he was very friendly. As far as micro managing the Caps Program that was not Ramsey but Barbara McDonald who was the Director of Research and Development. She was put in charge of the Caps Program by the then Mayor Daley. There was also a person who was Dept Chief of Staff to the Mayor, who was the liaison official between the Mayor's Office and the Police Department who was involved in the Caps Program. Ramsey was a Dept Supt in charge of the Caps Program and had much to say about the operational aspects of Caps. It was McDonald who initiated many of the theories of the program including the Caps "Together We Can
OT: The "Double Dipping" continues...
Two very persistent rumors are rumbling through the halls at HQ. Both Gene Williams and Ralph Price will be coming back as civilians, which will enable them to collect their sworn pensions AND a civilian salary at the same time, effectively doubling their incomes. Williams has been offered the Chief of Staff job in the Superintendent's Office, and Price is coming right back to Legal Affairs as the civilian General Counsel to the Superintendent.
Clout rules!
For those of us unfamiliar with the term:
What is "stripping"?
it's what coppers need to do after hours to survive and make ends meet. The pittance the department calls a salary just doesn't cut it when you're forced to live in the city.
Ramsey forgets that some exempts can't "man up" as they've sold their souls, and manhood, to the devil a.k.a Rahm.
Ramsey forgets that some exempts can't "man up" as they've sold their souls, and manhood, to the devil a.k.a Rahm.
You mean ALL have! Everyone of them.
"Two very persistent rumors are rumbling through the halls at HQ. Both Gene Williams and Ralph Price will be coming back as civilians, which will enable them to collect their sworn pensions AND a civilian salary at the same time, effectively doubling their incomes. Williams has been offered the Chief of Staff job in the Superintendent's Office, and Price is coming right back to Legal Affairs as the civilian General Counsel to the Superintendent."
Uh, nope. And this is the first place I've even heard this "rumor".
Anonymous said...
OT:
I got a mailing yesterday from AARP asking for signatures on a petition because Rauner wants to tax retirement income. Usually AARP gets involved only in national issues but this time it involves only Illinois. AARP understands Rauner is serious about taxing retirement income. That INCLUDES our pension!
Where is FOP on this? Not word from Dean Angelo but I get a mailing from AARP. WTF
4/27/2016 10:28:00 PM
Did you call and ask him? Even forward the mailing to him?
Bring this up at the next meeting.
This is just the type of apathy that the FOP relies on to implement their own agendas. Herad tose same tired ass excuses for years. I would bet next months paycheck you never even bothered to put the ballot in the mail. But hey it's those worthless Unit Reps fault.
No it's lazy whining assholes like you that are the problem.
Shut up internet tough guy. You're either a worthless unit rep who doesn't do his job, or a lonely divorced retired guy, who sits outside the fop hall all month waiting for the union meeting.
OT: The "Double Dipping" continues...
Two very persistent rumors are rumbling through the halls at HQ. Both Gene Williams and Ralph Price will be coming back as civilians, which will enable them to collect their sworn pensions AND a civilian salary at the same time, effectively doubling their incomes. Williams has been offered the Chief of Staff job in the Superintendent's Office, and Price is coming right back to Legal Affairs as the civilian General Counsel to the Superintendent.
Weird how someone can game our pension then come back for another payout!
Seems that both those jobs should be posted by the City just like all those Tact TEAM opening that you need a resume' for. Strange how the media has not started FOIAing those merit packets the exempts pretend they read. All sort of tid-bits and the clouds will clear and NEPOTISM (fiances) will be revealed!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT:
I got a mailing yesterday from AARP asking for signatures on a petition because Rauner wants to tax retirement income. Usually AARP gets involved only in national issues but this time it involves only Illinois. AARP understands Rauner is serious about taxing retirement income. That INCLUDES our pension!
Where is FOP on this? Not word from Dean Angelo but I get a mailing from AARP. WTF
4/27/2016 10:28:00 PM
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I live out of state and mypension is taxed. It's not uncommon. Fellow retirees and I and have always said that it was inevitable for the same to happen in Il.
Can anyone name a single gold star who actually passed all the tests and was promoted on the legit? Hint:: there are none!
Buslik, Lemmer, Deenahan, I would bet there are more.
Godsel, Loughran,
FOP along with the Sgts, LTS and captains union representatives should be conducting a joint investigation into the cheating on promotional test. The cheating affects the wages, working conditions and terms of employment of every officer who has ever taken a promotional examination and is represented by these unions. After they finish the cheating investigation and name all the subject matter experts who gave out the answers a new investigation should start with how merit promotions are awarded to those who are grossly unqualified for any promotion, let alone a promotion earned by their merit. This investigation would be easy for police officers to conduct and prove in a court of law. Hey Dean stand up and be a leader instead of a follower.
think about this $350.00 per hour more than a surgeon,makes how much BS do you think there must be to give up that kind of money? Ramsey is either a man with morals or insane or perhaps a matter of both. How screwed up are the exempt ranks? Eddie how is that lieutenants major cheating investigation going? have you notified the feds, oh wait doj is here, just go across the hall and knock on the door invite them in. Has your girlfriend been questioned yet? If not why not? How about the other top tier cheaters? have they been demoted until investigation is concluded? How is the deflection looking at old videos of coppers doing their jobs going?
And what, Genius, do you base this observation on? I think that you are way off base and totally misinformed. There are states that actually have criminal laws that prohibit the conduct that you claim is normal. And, many thinking police chiefs actually have language in their contracts to prohibit this type of interference and interference is what it is. Accountability is one thing, interference and micro managing is another.
Cite ONE, just ONE major city, not some fuckin podunk outpost, in rural southeastern wherever-the-fuck, where the Mayor isn't the Police Chief's boss.
Name just ONE!
Some shit aint as difficult as dopes like you would like it to appear.
In fact, they're really simple.
The Mayor is the head executive of the dam city. Like it or not (and most of us don't) all other heads of all other city depts bow down to his dictates...that is, if they want to keep their jobs.
You fuckers who sit and wait for the day when there will be a Superintendent, who's not subservient to the mayor, are living in a fantasy land. Enjoy that.
Anonymous said...
The IG's office has served 2 Sgt's and 2 new Lie-Tenants with official allegations of wrongdoing. Apparently they have stacks of emails sent via Dept email between EW and themselves and between each other. Some of the emails have the actual test questions from the Lt Test. Doesn't look like the impending retirement of EW is stopping the IG from going after the cheaters. Let's see if they are willing to get caught in a lie and risk getting fired for rule 14 violations
I'd bet dollars to doughnuts someone else, with a W initial is one of the Lts.
This shit gone be good.
***Bet you again nothing comes of it. Ferguson is a political hack who picks his battles on the inside but outside tries to make the public think he is a true IG hero.
4/27/2016 11:34:00 PM
I call Bullshit! on this one. Some coppers are really really dumb, but I cant imagine in this day and age of technology that a copper, especially a big boss would do this on a company email. No way.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT:
I got a mailing yesterday from AARP asking for signatures on a petition because Rauner wants to tax retirement income. Usually AARP gets involved only in national issues but this time it involves only Illinois. AARP understands Rauner is serious about taxing retirement income. That INCLUDES our pension!
Where is FOP on this? Not word from Dean Angelo but I get a mailing from AARP. WTF
4/27/2016 10:28:00 PM
https://www.civicfed.org/iifs/publications/FY2015_StateofIllinoisRoadmap
If the FOP was smart they would hire Ramsey to get on camera and start telling the truth about what goes on behind the scenes
"bobby" at 6:33 PM
Re: definition of CPD "stripping": 6:50 PM is correct.
In the NYPD, the same procedure is described as an officer being "modified".
I call Bullshit! on this one. Some coppers are really really dumb, but I cant imagine in this day and age of technology that a copper, especially a big boss would do this on a company email. No way.
4/28/2016 01:26:00 PM
Bullshit? We're talking about people too stupid to pass the test without cheating. Gleeful people, who couldn't wait to speak in person, in private, to gloat about having the test in their hot little hands. People TOO STUPID to be the police, so it's good they got caught.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If the FOP was smart they would hire Ramsey to get on camera and start telling the truth about what goes on behind the scenes
4/28/2016 03:36:00 PM
Hopefully, he'll write a book and hopefully, he's a fast writer.
So, I'm not sure if anyone else's district has had this yet, but we were surprised yesterday by the sudden arrival of a civilian employee working behind the district desk without fore warning, handing out radios, being trained on AIRA, having I-clear access, not to mention the equipment, old shotguns, rifles.
What district is this the 26th Sparky?
Hopefully, he'll write a book and hopefully, he's a fast writer.
4/28/2016 07:21:00 PM
Terry Hillard wrote a book but he left a lot out, like how politics influences the department and how exams and selection processes are rigged. Any former police superintendent could write a great expose but it seems they are all taken care off once they leave office.
Anonymous said...
Can anyone name a single gold star who actually passed all the tests and was promoted on the legit? Hint:: there are none!
Buslik, Lemmer, Deenahan, I would bet there are more.
Godsel, Loughran,
4/28/2016 11:10:00 AM
You are delusional.
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