Bella Explains
This was forwarded to us - it has the Recording Secretary's name attached to the header as author, though he wasn't the one forwarding it to us:
- The Chicago FOP is asking the membership not to volunteer to work any type of VRI over the Labor Day weekend.
How does it affect you?
You might get one day of VRI from Friday to Monday. If not working VRI impacts manpower the City will cancel your day off and you will make the money anyway.
What does it prove?
The media will have to report on the manpower shortage and it will prove that Rham and the Department have been lying about manpower for the past 6 years. Every cop out there complains they can't get time off, can't get off on holidays this will bring that fact home.
What will you gain?
You will prove to [Rahm] that we are united, we will do what it takes to fix the problems. We are sick and tired of being screwed. We are the ones being hospitalized, suspended, shot and yes killed.
We deserve better and the worst that happens is that you have a nice BBQ with your family. Take the time to hug and kiss them because that is worth more than the time and a half pay.
As many know, the FOP, indeed, any member of the FOP, advocating a "job action" is subject to sanctions, charges and termination. An overtime initiative is a voluntary endeavor, and therefore is not a job action, and this essay pretty well explains why everyone ought to consider and adhere to the FOP's direction.
Labels: FOP
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
105 Comments:
Nah, like I said last night I'll still make some money for my family. I can still sign up and work Friday and Saturday and have Sunday and Monday off with my family. That's the perks of 10hr days in 005. I get to make about 900 dollars in two days and still have two days off with my family for that BBQ and fun. I will be sure to use that 900 dollars for my family, because in 005 with the 10 hour days we get to work our day at 10 hours(not VRI) so we get paid for 15 hours... Win win. Sorry fop, it's not about you. Sorry fellow coppers, it's also not about you. Money and family, best of both worlds, I love this job!!!!!!
It would be nice to send the message, but I doubt there are enough cops willing to not work for the extra money that most need. Admirable endeavor though.
Something has to be done, just stay very fetal while doing what is necessary.
Count me in. I'll take the mandatory OT when they cancel my days off. At least they'll see we are somewhat united.
Why is none of this coming from the FOP? Why not on the website? Why just on the blog or random shares on Facebook?
The question you forget to pose is:
What's in this for FOP???
Why are they suggesting this and not something else?
What is the damage/impact/residual effect to the person(s) taking part in this?
After all the BS I read here about FOP, I question its motives.
Sorry to be so skeptical, but my first reaction is - What's in this for FOP? (the leadership NOT the membership)
I have grown to depend on vri, but I will definitely not be working Labor day weekend. I'm with the FOP all the way on this one.
Correct me if I am wrong SSC but if the FOP advocates a job action, can't the City of Chicago de-certify the Union and it's contract? You state that this is not consider a job action because the program is voluntary. Are you sure? I am curious, where did you get that information from? I know Dean reads this blog. Can he or any body else with the FOP answer my question? Personally, the only overtime I work is a continuation of an assignment that goes into overtime or court.
To be remotely successful, the union needs to plan a bunch of such displays of unity. Personally I believe there are too many coppers who are either greedy or in such bad financial straights that this initiative will fail, but on the off chance it is even mildly successful, they need to follow it with other public demonstrations to keep it in the public eye. How bout a vote of no confidence in Rahm n special Ed? How about we make a concerted effort to boycott the news, the trib, n the sun times. If we could get our loved ones to join and cancel subscriptions to the paper, maybe we could hurt them enough where they would slow down the pandering to those who don't subscribe anyway. Just a thought
And why am I still doing this?
For your more radical members,
If you cannot get most of the rank and file to give up extra OT shifts, how many would ever sick out if you try a "Blue Flu" day?
Giving up OT is perfectly legal and ethical. A Blue Flu Day would be an illegal strike or job action.
If they won't follow you on Labor Day, do you think they will try an illegal strike?
Or will the few dozen of you be hung out to dry?
There are 51 other weeks for overtime.
Too many dipshit coppers that don't give a fuck about unity & are out for theirs!!!! This job has no fucking "unity" & this would never happen in this dept! I hope that those names are posted by someone though so we know who the fucking greedy one way rats are!
At the Unit Rep’s meeting one comment was that outdoor roll calls were dangerous. FOP had called the 1st deputy and he said that they would continue because they were good for community relations. After several attempts FOP got thru to 9.5 and expressed their concerns. Outdoor roll calls are now suspended. But Instead of thanking FOP Jim Bailey from 22 said what took so long?
Of course Jimmy boy had no answer as to why when he was a field rep under Donahue and was making Chief’s pay why no one under the Third Reich ever attempted to end outdoor roll calls.
I guess Jimmy was too busy playing hockey on our dime on our time with Dougherty to be bothered about field rep duties or what actually went on.
Wake up guys the FOP is gonna have an election next March . Bella relies upon the retirees to get elected every year . Remember when Dean was elected what did he do ? He went to breakfast with the tiny dancer. Don't get sucked into "hey we all have to be in this together ."
Remember the speech about is "Rahm " behind us ? Yeah he brings the troops pizza ! U want to start a class action ? Votes everyone of these bums and all their law cronies with them ! Bella like the rest of em has no respect for the working cop !
Won't work ~ officers do not stick together and are usually out for themselves because they do not want to be bounced off their cars, etc. and are not like the firemen who always stick together.
Bella has always been a goof!
"Sorry fop, it's not about you. Sorry fellow coppers, it's also not about you. Money and family, best of both worlds, I love this job!!!!!!"
Right because I'm Officer One Way It's all about me stab I'll you in the backing a minute . Perfect supervisor material, hence the reason the CPD is the most dysfunctional Dpet. You got pricks likes this that are the rule not the exception. Remember this is the same a hole when if he's in a fix will be the first to look for a monetary support from his fellow officer Greedy f'ng sellout.
Can we post a list of anyone who signs up to work ot those days? Hell, maybe the fop could publish all the names in the newsletter.
Okay so here is that once in a lifetime , legal way to bend over the Rahmulan . Use the slogan "Just do it"
I could not agree with you more SCC. But their will be asshole who are greedy and say I GOTZ TO GET MINE!!!!! Me, i will not be working that weekend!
Great job on the commentary/article SCC
You know what else will prove that you are "united?" If every single one of you and every family member in your household were registered to VOTE and then did so in every election. Not only would that prove you are "united" but it would put the fear of God into those politicians. When will you all wake up? You think someone wouldn't notice a mass voter registration among City Workers?
not a LEO.
Each copper has to make up his own mind on this.
The question you forget to pose is:
What's in this for FOP???
Pssst, hey Francis, listen to this: IF the FOP can force the City to hire more officers, that's more money coming into the coffers of the FOP. More money coming in, maybe they can do more to increase benefits for all of their membership. Not to mention that in some of the more active districts in the city, those of us who are assigned there could really use some more help...even if that help coming is years away. Got it?
Nah, like I said last night I'll still make some money for my family. I can still sign up and work Friday and Saturday and have Sunday and Monday off with my family. That's the perks of 10hr days in 005. I get to make about 900 dollars in two days and still have two days off with my family for that BBQ and fun. I will be sure to use that 900 dollars for my family, because in 005 with the 10 hour days we get to work our day at 10 hours(not VRI) so we get paid for 15 hours... Win win. Sorry fop, it's not about you. Sorry fellow coppers, it's also not about you. Money and family, best of both worlds, I love this job!!!!!!
Thank god our predecessors on this job didn't think like u did or we wouldn't have what we have now . Makes me sick. Your so simple and short sighted . Enjoy your days of working overtime on a holiday weekend lol. Sounds like a blast . I will stick with what's best for us as a dept and make up for it the following weeks.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Nah, like I said last night I'll still make some money for my family. I can still sign up and work Friday and Saturday and have Sunday and Monday off with my family. That's the perks of 10hr days in 005. I get to make about 900 dollars in two days and still have two days off with my family for that BBQ and fun. I will be sure to use that 900 dollars for my family, because in 005 with the 10 hour days we get to work our day at 10 hours(not VRI) so we get paid for 15 hours... Win win. Sorry fop, it's not about you. Sorry fellow coppers, it's also not about you. Money and family, best of both worlds, I love this job!!!!!!
7/24/2016 12:15:00 AM
You are a selfish asshole. I bet you are the one creating multiple posts on this topic to make people think there are more of you jag offs than there really are. Why don't you post your name so you can be called out? Coward.
Why did Angelo push the last contract sooooo hard. It was mush. Show unity? He sold out the newbies and abandoned seniority rights for district furlos. Asshat
Coppers , like many in high stress job need down time and later in life regret not spending some quality time with family. Because in the end family is all you have. You never hear from those nearing the end of their life that they should have spent more time at work. Stay safe and show your loved ones that you care about them. Retired cop.
My car mechanic once explained to me, your dead a long time enjoy labor day if your off.
You can't get 2 coppers to agree on where to eat lunch and you expect them to give up VRI?
HA!
I used to work special but I found myself becoming way too DEPENDANT on the extra cash. Instead of paying down the existing debts, I assumed new ones. I finally went cold turkey. It wasn't easy but I'm now at the stage in my career where I can actually live within my means. Good thing too because I'm close to retirement.
Just as a reminder.....put a blue lightbulb in a porch light fixture or in a marker light. City or suburb....it doesn't matter.
As I read the posts regarding this issue I realize that the CPD is not united. This is the reason the mayor can screw over officers time and time again. You do more fighting amongst yourselves than you do fighting crime. Get together, that's why you have a union. Union members stick together in order to create one solid voice. It's now time to use you voice to send a clear message. Sure the money for the OT is great, but the gains you will win by sticking together is greater.
Listen here we have a lot
Of rats on this job and a lot of coppers who are greedy or in over their heads with debt. I hope It happens but I won't hold my breath. Cancel my days and I'll work otherwise I'm hanging out with my family and for any copper that comes on this blog and says it's about "me" or the douche from 005 that posted earlier you guys are the reason we will lose benefits in contracts. When you have a heart attack or can't work because you over worked yourself maybe that one weekend off could've saved you. I like my life, my family and if you came to this job for money then you're the dumb dumb
Oh for christ sake get of the donohue boat. The fop would be much more louder and prouder if he were still in office...
Christ their are people out there who try and sabotage his potential side jobs...only thing is he learns about it right away
If the officers themselves aren't willing to sacrifice & refuse to work voluntary duty, why should the public have any sympathy? Time to put principles over money!
Blue flu bud billiken day would be better but as you can see already cpd won't stick together therefore you are all doomed and so is this city. Good luck from an old timer that recently retired you are gonna need it.
Everyone complains the top doesn't do enough. The. They announce an effort that seems to make sense and is easy enough for all to comply but you still have people whining and complaining. Nobody is perfect like the current FOP or not it does affect us and when a reasonable request is made we should support them if we can. This is one weekend. The period consists of four weekends so go make OT on those days.
Nah, like I said last night I'll still make some money for my family. I can still sign up and work Friday and Saturday and have Sunday and Monday off with my family. That's the perks of 10hr days in 005. I get to make about 900 dollars in two days and still have two days off with my family for that BBQ and fun. I will be sure to use that 900 dollars for my family, because in 005 with the 10 hour days we get to work our day at 10 hours(not VRI) so we get paid for 15 hours... Win win. Sorry fop, it's not about you. Sorry fellow coppers, it's also not about you. Money and family, best of both worlds, I love this job!!!!!!
7/24/2016 12:15:00 AM
Despite the fact that you sound like a turd, the 10 hour days are life-changing. I sincerely hope that the department expands its to all districts.
...and still have two days off with my family for that BBQ and fun. I will be sure to use that 900 dollars for my family, because in 005 with the 10 hour days we get to work our day at 10 hours(not VRI) so we get paid for 15 hours... Win win. Sorry fop, it's not about you. Sorry fellow coppers, it's also not about you. Money and family, best of both worlds, I love this job!!!!!!
Yea keeping working company man (or woman). Skipping one weekend of vri isn't going to make or break you is it? You're just a fucking jag off. Having a stronger Union is better for you and your family in the long run but obviously you're too stupid to figure this out.
It would be nice if the unit rep from 008 would not work VRI that weekend. Call for a boycott of VRI and the unit reps should be the leaders not the scabs, right R.B.?
2 days of VRI is approximately $700 not $900 hair gel. Keep screwing the pension and not looking at the bigger picture. Glad you love the ghetto tho someone with a 1/4 of a brain has to.
Too many dipshit coppers that don't give a fuck about unity & are out for theirs!!!! This job has no fucking "unity" & this would never happen in this dept! I hope that those names are posted by someone though so we know who the fucking greedy one way rats are!
7/24/2016 02:46:00 AM
You're correct. Just look at the first post on this thread from the handjob working in 005. Willing to sell his soul for $900. Too stupid to look at the big picture.
Nah, like I said last night I'll still make some money for my family. I can still sign up and work Friday and Saturday and have Sunday and Monday off with my family. That's the perks of 10hr days in 005. I get to make about 900 dollars in two days and still have two days off with my family for that BBQ and fun. I will be sure to use that 900 dollars for my family, because in 005 with the 10 hour days we get to work our day at 10 hours(not VRI) so we get paid for 15 hours... Win win. Sorry fop, it's not about you. Sorry fellow coppers, it's also not about you. Money and family, best of both worlds, I love this job!!!!!!
7/24/2016 12:15:00 AM
Rahm's dick is in your ass and you don't even know it. So sad.
Anonymous said...
Votes everyone of these bums and all their law cronies with them ! Bella like the rest of em has no respect for the working cop !
7/24/2016 04:53:00 AM
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And of course vote a retard like you in?
Wasn't the Shields experiment enough for you? Or are you one of Donahue's puppets? Dean may not be a saint but he isn't the sinner that you turds were.
Nice move.
But the teacher still have more heart and balls.
Look at how the messed with Rauner the other day with a read in!
Most of us will cry as soon as the exempts change our start time or partner.
Heaven forbid they change our beat car or don't let us leave early.
Don't worry the retirees that vote can care less about manpower or outdoor roll calls.
But mention medical care and pensions... Time to start attending FOP meetings so you can help and run for office all you college graduates.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Nah, like I said last night I'll still make some money for my family. I can still sign up and work Friday and Saturday and have Sunday and Monday off with my family. That's the perks of 10hr days in 005. I get to make about 900 dollars in two days and still have two days off with my family for that BBQ and fun. I will be sure to use that 900 dollars for my family, because in 005 with the 10 hour days we get to work our day at 10 hours(not VRI) so we get paid for 15 hours... Win win. Sorry fop, it's not about you. Sorry fellow coppers, it's also not about you. Money and family, best of both worlds, I love this job!!!!!!
Hey looser, why don't you sign your name to your little pouting rant? That way your fellow coppers in 005 know you don't give two shits about them. But hey, I'm sure most of them can figure who the cheap one way jagoff is anyways. While you at it remove yourself from the pension fund, cause it's all about you right? And it's those stupid fellow coppers (who are about 1,000 short) who contribute to that fund. Just sayin'
Too many sellouts,ass kissers, and selfish coppers on this department. Nice idea but would never get 100% cooperation.
Anyone who works OT that weekend needs to be shamed by FOP. These will be the same people that bitch and complain about everything especially FOP. This is only one weekend. It's not a lot to ask. Put the pressure on these one way cops.
Hey guy in 05, you can keep and shove up your ass your 10 hour day.
Time to stick together, time for demonstrations and job actions that are legal. The mayor is planning on selling everyone down the tubes with community members sitting in judgement of every police officer in the city and community members picking commanders. And, dont' forget that karen Lewis and Ramh like Jamal Green and Assanta Sisters.
The guy who continues to preach how his proactive policing and quest for the $150k annual by working every Initiative sure got whacked on yesterday's post and seems he's back today.
What's good for one guy might not be the same for another. Many personal circumstances are cause for working each and every opportunity. I don't pay somebody else's bills, tuition, child support, medical treatments, etc. (my Fed taxes do that).
I'm not going to bust on him, we never get 100% participation on anything.
How many go to the annual St. P parade, golf outing, picnic or St Jude?
Contribute to Chaplains Min, CPD Mem, St. Baldrick?
Aiming for 60% Labor Day Event is realistic.
What FOP is suggesting is Not a job action by any means.
Making a sacrifice to support an FOP Family Event is little to ask.
Many if not all Labor Unions have Stike Funds to compensate members for their time on the line.
FOP is not allowed to strike, but should consider having a large discretionary fund to support labor funtions such as the Labor Day Event.
I applaud the effort.
Has your Mayor done anything for you lately?
He certainly didn't include you in his $20 Mil Real Estate Tax Rebate Program.
Take a weekend off and do like Aaron Rogers........R-E-L-A-X.
Also, FOP should get CPF Credit Union on board too, look at the amount of deposits they take in from CPD.
It would be illegal for the F.O.P. to call for a Blue Flu Day on Aug 13th for BUD BILLIKEN. The thing is if there was coincidentally an outbreak of the flu virus to those assigned to work this, it would be a huge Co-ink-E- Dink.
Guy in 005 who keeps spouting "10 hour days" your a selfish prick . I hope you get fired .. i hope during your fabulous 10 hour day you step on your tiny dick and get canned . Its not about the union or the members , remember, its about that buck . Pos
I don't know how effective the Job action will be with all the greedy cops we have, but summertime is the best time to pull together...IMHO
#send a message
Do not work any spevial , part time jobs Labor Day week end .
Family first .
I respectfully ask the following: Can everyone please ignore the poster who will work in 005 no matter what? This is either a troll or a douchebag of extreme proportions. While I agree that family comes first, solidarity for your fellow officers on one weekend after numerous years of VRI is not asking much. If your family vacation depends on that one or two days you will get, you are an idiot who needs no more attention. Furthermore I'm banking on either a troll or moron with no wife and kids or friends who is posting.
We have this thing called e-mail, that for the most part the majority of us use and can at least let the others that don't, know that if the FOP sent out an e-mail stating that they actually did request officers not to sign up for voluntary work on those dates that it was more legit ! Send out the e-mail FOP, make this happen ! I'm a VRI whore also but will not be signing up for anything those dates if the FOP legitimately request it !
Remember the names of the ones that sign up. Remember and treat them accordingly for the rest of their miserable careers. Remember to make it miserable. Remember that they are working against you and your family. Remember that the next copper that dies because we are short is their fault as well as the politicians.
Off Topic...Sorry
Please lets not forget about the Lt Exam Cheating Scandal. Many still have their eyes on the "alleged" cheaters involved.
1 Eddie & Fenner
2 Eugene & Ward
3 Wysinger & Hall
4 un-NOBLE & Green
We are not going to let this go away as you were hoping! The investigation will come to light.
Apology to SCC forum....
All the vri guys and gals will be the first to cry when the pension is no longer. They don't realize they are contributing 9% from every paycheck and by actually working vri they are working against their own investment. See there is no money paid into the pension fund for any of the vri or any special overtime by the city. If nobody worked vri they would force the city to hire additional manpower the new hires would be paying into the pension, along with the city's 18% contribution and protecting your 9% investment taken out of every regular paycheck. Nobody realizes how much money they are saving the city by working vri. But here is a ballpark: 18% to our pension, they don't pay shift differential, uniform allowance, they don't pay the city's portion for health insurance (approx $10,000) per employee. The city has 6 Billion in cash reserves plus the tif funds and still refuses to fund our pension. On top of that the police have not only the second worst pension funding out of all city funds but are one of the few funds that it annuitants do not receive a compounded cost of living increase. Why any police officer works any voluntary overtime for this city is mind boggling.
7/23/2016 01:42:00 PM
This is from a previous thread. Simple, well thought out and needed to be reposted.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Wake up guys the FOP is gonna have an election next March . Bella relies upon the retirees to get elected every year . Remember when Dean was elected what did he do ? He went to breakfast with the tiny dancer. Don't get sucked into "hey we all have to be in this together ."
Remember the speech about is "Rahm " behind us ? Yeah he brings the troops pizza ! U want to start a class action ? Votes everyone of these bums and all their law cronies with them ! Bella like the rest of em has no respect for the working cop !
7/24/2016 04:53:00 AM
Let's examine "I'm Italian" greg Bella scandal:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-police-union-sues-burge-attorneys-over-fees-20120210-story.html
On Jan. 28, 2011, Gamboney submitted a bill to the FOP’s former third vice president, who is also named as a defendant in the lawsuit, requesting $203,500 for legal services and additional expenses for work performed outside the scope of the appeal, according to the complaint.
The former union official, Greg Bella, then authorized the payment even though the union says it did not owe Gamboney any money, the lawsuit states.
So Greg gave away over $200,000 of our money for what? Is this a friends and family program like rahm has? Why is greg still getting a union paycheck? did we "recover" the money greg?
Fuck that the union sold out new guys on duty availability that's 4k they can't see until 42 months. I say work and get yours the union will sell you out come contract time anyways.
Has any of this hit the local lame stream Rahm mouthpiece media?
Note to all Chicago news media: Please have reporters and crews at the Northsider's luncheon on August 9th at Biagio's Banquet Hall. We are sure that President of Lodge7 FOP Dean Angelo will give you an in depth interview on how Mayor Rahm Emanuel has decimated the Chicago Police Department.
Who is gonna pay for my strippers work work work
Excellent Idea. Don't be a Scab for the City Hall Democommunists or their Sock Puppet CPD Bosses
Nah, like I said last night I'll still make some money for my family. I can still sign up and work Friday and Saturday and have Sunday and Monday off with my family. That's the perks of 10hr days in 005. I get to make about 900 dollars in two days and still have two days off with my family for that BBQ and fun. I will be sure to use that 900 dollars for my family, because in 005 with the 10 hour days we get to work our day at 10 hours(not VRI) so we get paid for 15 hours... Win win. Sorry fop, it's not about you. Sorry fellow coppers, it's also not about you. Money and family, best of both worlds, I love this job!!!!!!
Of course...me me me. Hopefully if you work one of your VRI days you don't happen to step into shit or heaven forbid get into a shooting and your begging the Union for help and your fellow brothers in blue for a benefit. It's scabs like you that ruin the brotherhood of this dept. SCC.. A roster list of names should be posted of those working those days voluntarily to send a message
Again I say skip the POTUS Detail also. B.O. says we .......the police are inherit to racism....H.C. says we ...the police must stop killing black people ( or folks ) so skip her details too.
Now this makes some statements. Rhamboni is still pissed off that he could hav had the VP spot if he could have beat chewy without a runoff.
Hahaaaaaa Rhamboni no VP Spot for you.
realistically, as long as cops are willing to work OT there isn't a manpower shortage.
every employer uses OT to balance out their work loads as needed.
It is especially a problem with employers like police departments that cannot easily get new employees into the system. even if the city decided to hire 1000 new cops and started running them through the training system none of them would hit the streets for 6 months and even then they would not be real helpful at reducing the amount of OT. It might even increase the amount of OT as FTOs might not be all that interested in OT.
It seems unlikely that the department could train more than a few hundred at a time so getting 1000 of them trained could take several years, and in the meantime more old cops are retiring. I wonder if anyone has crunched the numbers to determine what the staffing level is likely to be 5 or ten years down the road with various levels of new hires and retirements.
This is something competent organizations have a good handle on. But if nothing else, the city has not shown much management competence the last few decades.
NAC
Hear! Hear!
How hard is it not to work voluntary special employment for one weekend?
The asshole copper from 005 who posted earlier stated he's working and basically told his brothers to pound sand. That is why the city will get its way come contract time.
The membership of the FOP need to band together if we expect to gain the upper hand on the city.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It would be nice to send the message, but I doubt there are enough cops willing to not work for the extra money that most need. Admirable endeavor though.
7/24/2016 12:28:00 AM
The Mayor sat in the back seat and laughed his ass off when he heard about this. He knows that when it fails, he will have broken the union and he will be able to do whatever he wants with the contract.
Bella has always been a goof!
If you think Greg Bella is a goof, you obviously don't know Greg Bella. I know him personally and am proud to call him a friend. He is a stand up man. He always helps fellow police officers and he is very knowledgeable. Anytime I have ever called him, he has always helped.
Count me in
I'm in....supporting our cause .
Pssst, hey Francis, listen to this: IF the FOP can force the City to hire more officers, that's more money coming into the coffers of the FOP. More money coming in, maybe they can do more to increase benefits for all of their membership. Not to mention that in some of the more active districts in the city, those of us who are assigned there could really use some more help...even if that help coming is years away. Got it?
7/24/2016 07:32:00 AM
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Psssst... Hey Poindexter, put down the crackpipe and the "Free Pizza", your logic is failing you.
The FOP doesn't force the city to do ANYTHING. Let's say that again for those still in the haze of the crackpipe smoke -
The FOP doesn't force the city to do ANYTHING!!
If they did, you would have seen more cops on the street a LONG time ago AND a lot more complaints filed by FOP on bad bosses (poor leaders who got in their spot due to clout, not to to skills and experience)
Where was the "vote of NO Confidence" on J-Fled? What about one on McCarthy? What about now? What about Commercials defending the police?
FOP leadership is focused on the next "merit promotion" - that's about it.
Now, pass the Pizza!
Fuck that the union sold out new guys on duty availability that's 4k they can't see until 42 months. I say work and get yours the union will sell you out come contract time anyways
U are the union u turd. Its people like u that decided to pass the contract instead of voting it down. Why? Because u needed ur retro check. And we still lost the 1st year. Its like that every contract. So please don t act like u had nothing to do with the new hires getting screwed.
Nah, like I said last night I'll still make some money for my family. I can still sign up and work Friday and Saturday and have Sunday and Monday off with my family. That's the perks of 10hr days in 005. I get to make about 900 dollars in two days and still have two days off with my family for that BBQ and fun. I will be sure to use that 900 dollars for my family, because in 005 with the 10 hour days we get to work our day at 10 hours(not VRI) so we get paid for 15 hours... Win win. Sorry fop, it's not about you. Sorry fellow coppers, it's also not about you. Money and family, best of both worlds, I love this job!!!!!!
7/24/2016 12:15:00 AM
Maybe my sense of humor is stupid, but I like this guy lol. That's not even sarcasm.
I'm taking that weekend to spend with my family, but I don't view you as a backstabber when thinking about your family. The next man should have no problem with you wanting to earn honest money for your family. To many crybabies on this job.
We need some type of unity against this cop hating mayor and his cronies in city hall. We have to do this and stay united because they don't care about use. We only have each other. One weekend will not kill your piggy bank. This is a great way to send them all a big message from us......next to staying fetal of course
If you ever met my family, you'd know why I'm working my days off!
The underlining issue for FOP to for the city to hire more cops to increase the monthly dues. I am still waiting for FOP to raffle of (1) tuition payment every half hour for every officer that does not work and attends the FOP events. Because I am working unless FOP does it. Or, give up the captain's pay.
If not enough people sign up for VRI, they just go with what they have. On 04 July, there were 3 P.O.'s, a Sgt, and a Lt......that's it. They do not do reverse seniority for Special Employment.
They have bbeen known to call people on RDO's and ask them if they're interested, but do not force the issue.
Retirees support Deano because like the retirees HE has been there! Youngsters on the job cry like babies and are solo self centered. FOP should hire retirees to come into FOP HQ and set up computers so that they can 'face time' with the current coppers and counsel them while they are on the street. They would be surprised at what they would learn!
I will be printing the list in my unit and hanging it on the FOP board. I will highlight all of the names from my unit so that everyone can see who the scabs are.
2 days of VRI is approximately $700 not $900 hair gel. Keep screwing the pension and not looking at the bigger picture. Glad you love the ghetto tho someone with a 1/4 of a brain has to.
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Read the original post dumb dumb. I'm not working VRI, I would be working as a volunteer in the district. You work your regular tour on your RDO. So in 005 we have 10 hour days. When we work on our days off we get time and a half. So we get paid about 440 dollars clear so if I work Friday and Saturday I will be making about 880 clear after taxes. Then I will have Sunday and Monday RDO. Learn to read and comprehend... It's the beauty of the ten hour days, we get time off and a lot of opportunity for money$$$.
Parlay the 0 overtime initiatives with 0 activity. The FOP can't come and say that so we have to spread it.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Bella has always been a goof!
If you think Greg Bella is a goof, you obviously don't know Greg Bella. I know him personally and am proud to call him a friend. He is a stand up man. He always helps fellow police officers and he is very knowledgeable. Anytime I have ever called him, he has always helped.
7/24/2016 04:49:00 PM
Thanks for checking in Greg now back to the closet! You at 1 time spoke out but you are so silent like dean any more scandals Greg?
Read the original post dumb dumb. I'm not working VRI, I would be working as a volunteer in the district. You work your regular tour on your RDO. So in 005 we have 10 hour days. When we work on our days off we get time and a half. So we get paid about 440 dollars clear so if I work Friday and Saturday I will be making about 880 clear after taxes. Then I will have Sunday and Monday RDO. Learn to read and comprehend... It's the beauty of the ten hour days, we get time off and a lot of opportunity for money$$$.
7/25/2016 02:09:00 AM
Your a ass don't cry when you get fucked over
Black list anyone who works those days. Shun them, don't work with them, don't eat with them. Make work life lonely and miserable. Bounce around their cars and start times. Stick them with bad partners. Everyone including bosses should know this is important. Show the city how important we are. Bosses, dump the scans from teams, drop them off management. If someone doesn't want to stick together it shows that they can't be trusted.
If anybody thinks that there will be no volunteers, then you are delusional. There will always be money hungry cops signing up for everything possible. There is no unity in CPD. You will always have cops who write movers and parkers to keep their car. This has always been the problem as far back as I could remember. No matter how much the bosses and city screw us, there are those who will bust their ass to keep their car or keep a certain start time or place on the tact team. Rahm and Special Ed know this, so why worry about pension shortages or activity. The same asshats always will do what the city and bosses want. their attitude is fuck everybody else, I'm just going to do for me. Good luck with nobody volunteering. There will be more than enough money hungry hogs to fill up all the overtime positions.
I remember when Mike Shields head was on the chopping block for all his allegations. I was friends with 2 of the FOP presidents, but I have come to the conclusion that every FOP President except Shields was sleeping with the 5th floor of City Hall. Shields was screwed over because he wouldn't play the game. Every FOP member knows they can throw out these Bullshit memo's because there are PO's who will ignore them and sign up. Angelo and every other member knows this. So FOP will get their face time faking that they have our backs and disappear until the next time. Everything is very well scripted with FOP and the city. Try calling the FOP with contract issues and pension issues being ignored. There answers are suck it up cupcake. We pay union dues for what exactly? Sure as hell ain't for them to help you out or represent you.
to 7/24/16 0449pm hey greg why don't you explained how you helped a couple of your buddies get promoted meritorious to sgt ya your for the working non-clouted officer
The FOP is a joke.
That being said this is something that needs to happen. Sadly I would say to many money whores will look the other way and not pass on a single damn holiday weekend.
Have you actually looked at th VRI numbers? People aren't signing up. The zones aren't full anymore, some priority zones don't even get bodies anymore. It's not a stretch for people not to sign up.
should have 5 cars in each PEZ, only averaging 3 cars at the most
Greg Bella and a few others are closer than one fart away from going to prison
when the fop money beef works itself out...
They'll just deny time due forever. You'll only get RDOs, P-days and furlough. Everything else will be denied claiming manpower issues.
SCC. Please post names of the officers/scabs that work those days.
I remember when Mike Shields head was on the chopping block for all his allegations. I was friends with 2 of the FOP presidents, but I have come to the conclusion that every FOP President except Shields was sleeping with the 5th floor of City Hall. Shields was screwed over because he wouldn't play the game. Every FOP member knows they can throw out these Bullshit memo's because there are PO's who will ignore them and sign up. Angelo and every other member knows this. So FOP will get their face time faking that they have our backs and disappear until the next time. Everything is very well scripted with FOP and the city. Try calling the FOP with contract issues and pension issues being ignored. There answers are suck it up cupcake. We pay union dues for what exactly? Sure as hell ain't for them to help you out or represent you.
Thanks Mikey!!!
Bella has always been a goof!
If you think Greg Bella is a goof, you obviously don't know Greg Bella. I know him personally and am proud to call him a friend. He is a stand up man. He always helps fellow police officers and he is very knowledgeable. Anytime I have ever called him, he has always helped.
7/24/2016 04:49:00 PM
Thanks for checking in Greg now back to the closet! You at 1 time spoke out but you are so silent like dean any more scandals Greg?
Hey Bella Backer. Greg back in 1999 was a vocal leader. But the bottom line here is that Bella was responsible for over $200,000 of our money was given away. Greg has never explained this. Why? Why did Dean bring him inside knowing this? Why did the FOP's lawsuit against Greg go away after the election. Why did Greg say he would work for free and help out for a couple months and now he's on permanent salary with FOP for more than 2 years? Check the Fop tax records. Greg is for Greg. I supported him for a long time, but no more.
Don't waste our time by talking about something else. Answer these questions please.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
to 7/24/16 0449pm hey greg why don't you explained how you helped a couple of your buddies get promoted meritorious to sgt ya your for the working non-clouted officer
7/25/2016 01:42:00 PM
What about that over $200,000 payment you gave away of FOP money? Now "bellowing bella" back to making your Italian sausage!
FOP should start shaming those who work VRI and other non essential OT. We must be united and force the City to hire more officers. If you keep working the OT they won't hire more officers. Start living within your means. You don't need new phones every year and new cars every three years!
I have never worked special so I have a serious question. I am maxed out with over 29 years. If I were to sign up for special and then just not show up, can they give me a suspension for that? Or would I just be disqualified from signing up in the future. I am on furlo for most of those dates. Figure I could eat up a spot and short the city if I did so. Can someone let me know. Thanks.
Now Retired...
I think this is going to play right into Rahm's greedy hands in letting him hire private contractor (campaign contributor) security firms to replace Chicago Police where ever possible. He won't need to pay them benefit and pensions.
This city is going to hell and this is a push in that direction as long as the basic question of low manpower and morale is unsettled.
Back when I was working there were times when manpower went up and down and I worked Special Employment, for straight time money. But I also worked at a another non-security job. It was well paying, union, required a skillset and a license. What was really nice was to do that job away from the stress of being to police. More cops should look for secondary employment like that.
P.S. On TV news, TSA workers at the airports marched in protest to their job being made tougher and passengers having to wait longer because of LOW MANPOWER and LOW MORALE of their union members. They were demanding that TSA hire more people.
IF YOU WORK VRI DURING LABOR DAY YOURE A SCAB. Heck if you work any VRI you're a scab. The city absolutely needs to hire more officers. VRI is basically back dooring our shortage of police officers and its been going on for far too long. This is the one time we have the media's ear. This is a huge story and won't be good for the mayor. It can only help us.
greg you are a back stabbing sob you care about the clouted police
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