Another Reason for "Day of Action"
- Bucktown and Wicker Park are two of Chicago's trendiest neighborhoods, filled with people flocking to independent boutiques, national retail chains and vibrant dining and nightlife options.
But their popularity also has led to an uptick in crime, an alderman says, and put the communities at the center of a debate over whether private security officers should help patrol busy streets, using funds typically reserved for purchases like bike racks and sidewalk planters.
Two aldermen, Brian Hopkins, 2nd, and Joe Moreno, 1st, want to hire firms, staffed mostly by off-duty and retired police officers who have arrest powers and sometimes carry guns, using $100,000 from a special $1.2 million budget that comes from property taxes and is managed by business people in the neighborhoods.
Taxpayers pay for police. That's taxpayer money they're talking about spending on private businesses. Businesses should pay for their own security, not aldercreature slush funds. And using our own members and retirees to undercut and mask the police shortages is unacceptable.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
38 Comments:
So who pays if the retired officer is accused of excessive force?
The deep pockets of the city?
The alderthieves?
How many officers are actually assigned to these districts?
How many were eight years ago?
Let's pay extraordinary property taxes for police services and then pay more taxes for private police services.
How the f does a private security firm get the power to arrest? Maybe I misread but I see sorts of problems.
Who owns the security company? I'm not in favor of it. Staff the district with more police. Employee more police. The FOP should point out the bad points to this and come out against it.
There was a Wicker Park Detail/entertainment detail until a couple months ago, when 014 disbanded it.
Haven't we set the stage for this ourselves, with the often repeated 'stay fetal' mantra, posted here numerous times per day?
So who is really undercutting the police jobs?
Hey SCC- Since when do retired officers have arrest powers? The press release mimicked by the media is incorrect. Retired carry is for our our own defense, not to be used for enforcement. Besides, do i really want to be like Gomer or Otis when Andy and Barney need more help? Maybe some retirees would want to work at the desk or in ERPS but only a fool would want to go back on the street - especially for
" Proctology Joe " Moreno. Joe should be pressing for more police hiring and reopening the shuttered Wood St. station.
As far as private security- there are only a handful of companies who have the trained staff ( mostly retired military ) that are able to properly do a halfway credible job.
Sorry, but your argument isn't going to fly.
They'll do what they want. As you said, they have the "slush fund money". (AND, they are in control of it)
(another reason to cut Aldermen down to 20-25. HUGE savings - pay, pensions, benefits, staff, and "slush funds")
Go for it aldermen. Retired guys would just love coming back to the streets and ending up in the joint...mot for $100 an hour or $1000 an hour. Hire the gangs from 014 to keep the mutts in their W/S and S/S shit holes, they will do the job for free.
What are you talking about? I'm sure this will be completely on the up & up; no connected securitty firm owners here. Any aldermen currently own a security company?
As far as liability goes, no worries. YOYO. Once Vanecko Security, LLC goes under after you do something on this part-time job resulting in a lawsuit, your assets are next.
Private company? Yeah like I'm going to stop my car when they try to pull me over. Like I'm going to give them an ID or allow them to touch me on the public way. They lay one hand on me on any public way and I'm going to sue the hell out of them, the company and the city. Sorry I don't care what kind of ordinance the city passes for them, a private company IS NOT a recognized law enforcement agency therefore DOES NOT have legal authority to detain me or anybody else on any public way. And to any P.O.'s thinking about working this, yes I will go after you for punitive damages out of your pocket too!
Here's what a "Day Of Action" looks like in Rio, as performed by their first responders -- "WELCOME TO HELL" banner!
https://tinyurl.com/jgnwpxx
They have also been standing in the airport concourse, holding this for incoming tourists. Get off the plane, see this. Wow.
These Games have cost Rio 20 BILLION DOLLARS -- about 4.5 billion of that in cost overruns. Thank God we didn't get them here.
Great photo spread on the $900 million worth of security here --
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3714896/Welcome-Olympics-shadow-ISIS-Ring-steel-Rio-Brazilians-prepare-for.html
...and there are still 2500 security positions unfilled after they fired a company that turned out to have no experience with mass events. They are desperately trying to hire enough retired coppers -- just like in Bucktown!
It's the new shithead haven, how much are robberies up in wicker park and bucktown?? Stand on Milwaukee ave, smoke some weed, drink a little "juice", walk around, don't spend any money in the establishments, start a fight, steal a purse from a sidewalk cafe, tug on a few door handles, piss where ever you gots to go, holla at some hoes, do a robbery lick or two, proceed to expressway, gas up with proceeds, head south, little shoot em ups on the Ryan, roll car on i57, flee scene, make report for stolen vehicle, wake up at 11am, start over.
A privatized police force contracted through the alderman with no oversite? What could go wrong? If it's anything like the custodial businesses for the district that go in and out of business with the employees never changing, it would work well for Chicago. Privates will also have the added bonus of enforcing an off-the-record quota system by firing anyone they want at anytime. And since the business license will only go to a small group of connected jag-bags they can black ball anyone who doesn't play ball on or off duty and selectively enforce the law to anyone who bribes the owner. The copper that makes even a sixth of his income from this employment from this schemes would be hard pressed not to fall in line. The garbage will be the next thing privatized when waste management as flood start bidding to collect it for that fee on the water bill. Fifty will be able to shit more money in their cronie's mouths when the labor cost of sanitation goes down.
I'm sorry SCC, but this time you're wrong. That's not taxpayers's money; it's the aldercreatures. Just like TIF money is Rahm's and all the federal money that Durbin gets us is from Obama. That's why we have to keep voting in the Dems, so the free money won't stop.
Apparently, our illustrious aldermen are required to surrender their ball sacks prior to being bestowed with the authority to pick the taxpayer's pockets.
What else can explain their reluctance to exert their lawful duty, granted to them by the very taxpaying citizens whose pockets they now pick, to offset the pilfering propensities of their city's executive branch's denizens?
Our city's legislative branch exists to serve and promote the interests of their respective ward's taxpaying citizens, not merely to bow and caper to an executive branch cabal which has proven to be thoroughly invested in promoting their own maniacally greedy interests, taxpayers be damned.
Yes, I know, this town, county and state have been ass end up for fucking ever.
Doesn't make it right.
Why did they get rid of the Wicker Park detail? That was a Sgt and 7 or 8 POs.
Sometimes carry guns?
Any cop that does this should be out of the union. Enough is enough with coppers who whore themselves out for VRI CHT CTA etc... You do this you're out. Plain and simple.
Assuming they're suggesting the use of SSA funds, that would be an Ethics Violation for any City employee (other than the Park District or Board of Ed) to receive such funds from local tax dollars.
How can a retiree come back and do a union job? Retired teamsters cant drive a truck when they are on pension. Come on fop.
Citizens should just go vigilante. The Police are all on the south and west sides babysitting.
Anybody want to guess who owns the security firm that's going to get the "bid"? Take a wild guess.
why not make it "special employment"....whether its bucktown ,,,or Michigan avenue...mt greenwood or edison park. Off duty police for hire- flat fee per hour (not time and a half- but enough to make it worth your while)
The Alderman will throw those private guards under the bus sooooo fast
Using VRI to undercut and mask police shortages has been acceptable for years. Why stop now?
Fuck the liberals who now want police protection in the form of private security firm staffing O/D coppers. These would be the same liberals marching to protest the police. Fuck them.
IN THE KNOW said...
...another reason to cut Aldermen down to 20-25. HUGE savings - pay, pensions, benefits, staff, and "slush funds"
8/01/2016 01:40:00 AM
Cutting the # of alderclowns will accomplish nothing (aside from lowering the # of alderclowns from 50 to 25). They will only call on their fellow alderclowns to pass raises in pay equal to DOUBLE their current pay and DOUBLE the aldermanic slush funds, since they are now representing double the constituents. DOUBLE staff, DOUBLE benefits, DOUBLE pensions! These clowns won't miss a beat!
Check the staffing levels in 14. Midnights is the worst. 40-50% down from where they need to be. 4-6 beat cars down a night. Coppers can't take time and morale in the shitter. Then they complain no numbers on a certain beat. Hey dumb fucks how can there activity on a certain beat if the beat car was down 80% of the period. Mind boggling sometimes.
Hire a connected company, replace the Police little by little with these connected companies, keep firing Police as fast as possible,in due time end the pensions by what ever means will reach the end. The private company will issue firearms that will be turned in at the end of the tour. We will keep you Coppers around long enough to take the good peoples guns then we will take yours. Now you ALL do as your told or else,read history it has happened many times. I laughed at the ones who warned of this in the past (ha ha tin foil hat motherf**ker).I don't laugh any more and hope you don't either. God bless us all,it's coming.
Get rid of GFZ!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Go for it aldermen. Retired guys would just love coming back to the streets and ending up in the joint...mot for $100 an hour or $1000 an hour. Hire the gangs from 014 to keep the mutts in their W/S and S/S shit holes, they will do the job for free.
8/01/2016 02:26:00 AM
monterrey security is already busy visiting alderman, checking on "gifting" and wrapping it up! $22.50 an hour retired guys nothing like dealing with the savage shitheads again after you escaped and got a pension!
Anonymous said...
It's the new shithead haven, how much are robberies up in wicker park and bucktown?? Stand on Milwaukee ave, smoke some weed, drink a little "juice", walk around, don't spend any money in the establishments, start a fight, steal a purse from a sidewalk cafe, tug on a few door handles, piss where ever you gots to go, holla at some hoes, do a robbery lick or two, proceed to expressway, gas up with proceeds, head south, little shoot em ups on the Ryan, roll car on i57, flee scene, make report for stolen vehicle, wake up at 11am, start over.
8/01/2016 05:01:00 AM
Anonymous
LOL!
Damn... You nailed it!
Remember... If you chase, Fat-Head Ed will have your ass
because you "Possibly" violated Department policy...
Shit...
Do his lips move when he reads?
Don't they already have this in Marquette Park where they pay a special services tax?
Wicker park / buck town libs hate the police. Won't even look or acknowledge you. Maybe a snarl. I remember train loads of these dingbats exiting the trains after Barry s election in 08. 19 year olds walking around in Che tshirts too
"Wicker park / buck town libs hate the police"
That's a bit off when the neighborhood org. just donated $3000 in catered meals...
These Obama loving Rahm POS punk hipsters of all ages don't have the balls to stand up to Rahm and these three ahole aldermen: Hopkins, Moreno and Scott w, the laziest if all three. They refuse to put Rahms feet to the fire.
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