Saturday, July 30, 2016

Logical Extreme

  • Now an issue that the department and IPRA must address is whether officers followed department policy by shooting at the vehicle. In February 2015, former Superintendent Garry McCarthy revised the department's policy on the use of deadly force to prohibit officers from "firing at or into a moving vehicle when the vehicle is the only force used against the sworn member or another person."
Because a car has never been used as a weapon to hurt, maim, affect an escape or kill.

It's a good thing the Chicago Police Department order on Use of Force wasn't in place in France recently:


Under the current Use of Force policy, the truck is the "only force used against the sworn member or another person," meaning a terrorist would have been able to make runs up and down Michigan Avenue, Columbus Drive, or Grant Park mowing down Lolla attendees and as long as his doors are locked, he doesn't run out of gas and the wheels don't get jammed up with the dead and dying, the Chicago Police are not allowed to stop him.

If you do, Eddie Johnson will strip you, send you to call back and fire you.

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104 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC this is a brilliant point !!!!

7/30/2016 07:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gotta love Special Ed's department email.

Hey Ed, we were doing very little and now it's NONE, NADA, NOTHING.

No apology tour needed.

You have completely ruined this Dept.

7/30/2016 07:33:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

Good analogy.

7/30/2016 07:47:00 AM  
Anonymous The Neanderthal said...

The Nice atrocity was preventable. Authorities there knew of the soft target presented by the Bastille Day mass gathering, yet the killer was able to rent a huge white 19-ton truck and drive it up and down the promenade for two days prior, doing practice runs, even though the truck was about four times the maximum weight allowed on that street.

When he was stopped and questioned in what was obviously a "be extra vigilant" situation, no one went through the cab, where there was an AK, pistol, and grenades. His explanation of "delivering ice cream" was simply accepted -- even though this was obviously not a refrigerated, insulated truck. No reefer unit on the thing, just a wind deflector on the cab.

No one said "Ice cream, huh? Right. Let's have a look in back."

Nothing but a couple of empty pallets as well as "other weapons" in there.

...and then the coverup. Whistleblower goes under the bus.

French minister to sue policewoman for claiming she was told to falsify security report after Nice truck attack

* ISIS terrorist killed 84 by driving truck down Nice promenade on 14 July
* Interior minster Minister Bernard Cazeneuve is suing officer Sandra Bertin
* She says she was told to report presence of national police she hadn't seen
* Claimed yesterday she was 'harassed for an hour' by an unnamed minister


"Sandra Bertin, head of Nice's video surveillance network, told the Journal du Dimanche newspaper that someone from Cazeneuve's staff had ordered her the day after the attack to say that officers from national police force were present at certain places where the attack had occurred.

"I dealt with someone who wanted a report indicating where there were municipal police, road barriers and also clearly stating that national police could be seen at two points," she said.

"Maybe national police officers were there, but they could not be seen in the videos," she said, adding that the ministry official harassed her for an hour on the subject."

"French security police have demanded Nice deletes CCTV footage of the Bastille Day terror attacks 'to prevent it from falling into the hands of jihadis to use as propaganda.'"

...as though there weren't a million videos of the whole thing all over the Web already.

Yeah, right.

7/30/2016 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let these shit birds drive around in the "borrowed" cars that they are joyriding in. Don't run the plate. See no evil, hear no evil..... if your not a dog it's hard to do, but it's what the democrats want.

7/30/2016 08:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where is the FLOP!

7/30/2016 08:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Really? a Stolen vehicle that drove off. Shit this happens all the time. Was there an Officer standing in front of the vehicle if so WHY? Just think if police fired into and killed every driver that took off, the police would never get off the Damn front page. What we have here is, NO Experience and Fear!!!

7/30/2016 08:14:00 AM  
Anonymous D-O-N-E said...

If you do, Eddie Johnson will strip you, send you to call back and fire you.

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Exactly why myself and nobody else on my watch are not doing a fuckin' thing.

7/30/2016 08:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Ken said...

Again when will all PO's and not just the smart ones realize that our bosses don't give a rats ass about us only themselves. The merit promotions have destroyed this department and have made so many unqualified people that we have no were to turn for leadership. To the pro-active police will you ever learn and to the PO's in specialize units you sold your soul to the devil expect no help when you get jammed up for thinking that you mean something to the department. There is no law and order only black lives matter and they are destroying this city and politicians are pandering their votes at the expense of the police. Wake up and Stay Fetal

7/30/2016 08:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I told you his name is Eddie the STRIPPER JOHNSON.

Special Ed is to nice.

7/30/2016 08:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The aclu has formulated policies which suggest the threatening presence of several officers, the tone and demeanor of the officers as well as their ability to restrict movements as civil rights violations worthy of police discipline and civil lawsuit payouts. Applying this logic, the felon in progress just wanted to remove himself from the threatening presence of identified uniformed police because we all heard of how police treat people in the news in other cities. Justified life threatening behavior by society’s criminal element in the eyes of the aclu.

Remember the federal courts gave this communist inspired aclu power to exact revenge on law enforcement around the country. Note the judges are all democrat appointees and have a disregard for the protections of citizens but conferring an elevated status to wrongdoers.

7/30/2016 09:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then the politicians and "bosses" get outraged when they're used as fodder for national political statements etc.
These clowns are doing things ass backwards. Their priorities are all screwed up.

Remember Rahm want's the public to show appreciation to the police..... you mean the kind of appreciation you and Eddie, the stripper, show Rahm??

7/30/2016 09:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck the order, if someone is trying to run me over, I will shoot to kill and take my changes with this dysfunctional department.

7/30/2016 09:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope the public gets it. If this accredited and experienced criminal is willing to flee with a 2,000 lb. + high velocity weapon and disregard uniformed police, what regard does he have if your family’s minivan gets in his path or if your daughter is crossing the street after being treated to ice cream after Bible Studies?

The ACLU, pandering to the community elected crime syndicated officials and the department of injustice seek to question the actions of those tasked with keeping order in the communities. Never mind that laws were broken and this fleeing felon will potentially cause harm possibly maiming and killing those not involved innocent citizens down the road. If you chase or are even involved in a chase, the courts hold you accountable for pushing that gas pedal accelerating the vehicle which you do not have physical control of via the actions of a fleeing criminal. Legal logic for profit I guess. (Most law abiding people just pull over as required by law)

Eddie the star stripper is an identifiable political pawn and will play by the rules of the ruling class disregarding the safety of his officers by raising the perception of wrongdoing. By questioning the actions and hinting at coloring outside the lines of department policy, he sends a loud, clear and suggestive message to look the other way to crime, don’t engage the SSL identified thugs and to avoid positive community interactions with event numbers at all costs or else get stripped naked and publically humiliated.

7/30/2016 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's pretty simple the law out weighs the Department order.
The law states no one can defeat the lawful arrest. But the order says let the offender get away.

If that's what the city wants give it to them but protect yourself and partners.
If you pull your weapon be prepared to write or speak to why you drew it.
If you discharge your weapon be prepared to give chapter and verse regarding law then orders regarding
why you discharged a weapon.

You have milliseconds to act but the fair and impartial investigation may take years and be overturned several
times against you to be conclude.

If you pick up that button and wear the gun you accepted this responsibility.

Signed, a stripped officer at call back

7/30/2016 09:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is to Superintendent Johnson: This is your diffining moment if you move to fire these Offers YOU WILL LOSE THE DEPARTMENT.







7/30/2016 09:30:00 AM  
Anonymous ltjjt ret said...

another example of big time trouble while doing police work.
I know it is easy to comment from computer but wtf.......stop and think,if the commnunity doesn't want aggressive police work and the pols don't want problems and the alleged leadership of the department will throw you and your family under the bus in a heartbeat:
answer calls and go home in one piece....no more proactive police work u ntil the situation changes(if it ever will)
jjt ret cpd

7/30/2016 09:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The CPD multi-prong test really depends on the community occupants.
Not doing ghetto policing is THE best solution.
Nobody gets it.

7/30/2016 09:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anybody out there work for an insurance company? I am wondering if shooting at a vehicle makes the accident a city liability. When these savages hit property or even people, a good democrat attorney can qaush intent in Cook County faster than i can quash a burger. I would not doubt that everything is money related at this point.

7/30/2016 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just do a blue card and call it a day, in other news we need 4 to get to 400 by the end of the month.

7/30/2016 09:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So we are supposed to let a car hit us and most likely killing us? I guess the city values criminals more than us.

7/30/2016 10:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck this city

7/30/2016 11:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As sworn members are we obligated to take action when there's a potential for loss of life ?????

7/30/2016 11:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sideswiped? If they were sideswiped, wouldn't the damage on the vehicle the offenders were driving be on the side? Looks like a head on collision to me.

7/30/2016 11:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember when we thought Special ED/ SPED was going to be the new hope for CPD. Boy, were we wrong.

7/30/2016 11:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do what's right and kill the mother fucker!

7/30/2016 11:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unless we send a serious message we will continue to be stripped, fired or killed. The Labor Day movement and the Bud Billiken movement are the message. It's up to us and PARTICULARLY our sell out Tact children.

7/30/2016 11:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That asshole fast Eddie will fire shit out of you, gentlemen know who you work for. It will save you the head ache with trying to figure out if your unemployment can fit you mortgage payment.

7/30/2016 11:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT --

Rahm called out specifically on "sanctuary" policy

"The mayor of Chicago, the IG report noted, has been defiant, stating publicly, 'We are not going to turn people over to ICE, and we are not going to check their immigration status. We will check for criminal background, but not for immigration status.'

“This is a big deal. This OIG report is the clearest statement yet from the federal government that sanctuary policies like California’s and Chicago’s obstruct immigration enforcement and violate federal law.”

7/30/2016 12:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This was just a tragic work place accident with a fatigued truck driver. Nothing to see here. No radical Islam.

7/30/2016 12:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stay Fetal , Stay Safe

7/30/2016 12:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck you fat fuck Eddie. You had no problems going to bat for your boy, GE, but no other officers get your support. You're a worthless piece of shit that doesn't wait for investigations to strip officers. Exactly why workers have turned to fetal dogs. Worst sup in my time on without a doubt. I was happy when they elected "one of our own," not a fed or outsider. Fuck that. Give the spot to a fed or BLM activist. The results will all be the same.

7/30/2016 12:55:00 PM  
Anonymous First and Sixteenth said...

No sympathy here, the department has done everything to tell you
- let the beast be - yet coppers are still going out proactively.

The car was stolen in the burbs so not a Chiraq crime stat.
All Chiraq criminals know we can't chase so they run. The police
are set up by the Hall and HQ to be the looser.

By the way, I used to be proactive, but learned the hard way.
Luckily for me it wasn't police trophy time.


7/30/2016 12:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The department's deadly force policy both allows for and forbids firing at a vehicle when it's the only force being used. The order, as written, allows shooting at a vehicle, even if the officer is not directly in its path. The prohibition against firing at a vehicle was added, but the rest of the wording wasn't changed. The order still allows firing at a vehicle under multiple circumstances. Also, the disclaimer that an officer will not unreasonably endanger himself or others to conform with the directive, is part of the order. The order literally states that you will not endanger yourself or others in order to comply with the policy. That means that if you reasonably believe deadly force will prevent death or great bodily harm to yourself or others, you are allowed to shoot at the offender, whether he's escaping on foot, in a car, in a hot air balloon, on a horse, or in the sidecar of Fat Eddie's motorcycle. Your safety and the safety of the general public trumps the safety of the felonious shitbag trying to escape. Eddie's inability to understand the policy, along with his instinctive reaction to immediately strip anyone using force against these felons wishing to do us harm, does nothing to refute the clearly written words in the order itself. Unless these officers somehow unreasonably chose to shoot at a vehicle when deadly force was not authorized, they should not have been stripped, they should not be worried about losing their jobs, and they should not be worried about facing criminal charges. But, in the new "war on police," we are all wrong and guilty of excessive force and murder until we lose everything, have our lives ruined, and face prosecution for simply doing our jobs to protect the public and ourselves from criminals. It doesn't matter what the policy or the law says. It only matters what Eddie, Rahm, Obama, Anita, Jamal, Phleger, etc. think. It only matters how it looks to the media and the "community." The police must be held accountable! They must be fired and charged with crimes! The criminals have rights, but not the police. The media and politicians praise these criminal scumbags and call them victims. They parade their weeping parents in front of every camera they can find to badmouth the police, all while failing to realize it's the fault of these shitty parents that their criminal scum offspring died at the hands of the police while committing crimes. Cry your phony tears and collect your millions while the police have to fight for their careers and freedom for simply doing their jobs.

If anyone chases another offender, either on foot, in a car, or on a bike, you need to have your head examined. You can't catch them without using force. You can't use force without being accused of using too much. Just watch them run and write the report. It's the only way to keep your job and your freedom. Anyone engaging in any kind of car chase for anything other than the shooting of a police officer, is a complete moron. Stolen car? Who cares? Robbery offender? Who cares? It's not worth the chase or all the bad shit that comes along with it. If you think your honorable mention for catching the shooter in a gang shooting will somehow save your job, go get 'em. It's all a waste of time and just another way to endanger your life, job, money, and freedom. It's just not worth it. Wave at the fleeing vehicle as it passes and go to lunch.

7/30/2016 01:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep on working hard. EJ has your back and so does Rahm! They even said so, so you know it must be true. I bet you that those officers are wishing right about now that they never even tried to stop that stolen car. They could have turned the other way and gone for a cup of coffee instead. Where's all the blue lives matter people marching on headquarters and city hall to save these two officer's jobs? Yup....crickets.

7/30/2016 01:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When will you learn. They are out to fry you guys.

7/30/2016 01:33:00 PM  
Anonymous I'm Done said...

Let the "Killings Begin..." There will be blood!
I'm Done.
I'm going to be diving out of the way like Homer Simpson diving behind the potato chip rack at the convenience store Robbery.
It's not worth throwing away almost 20 years to get stripped for that. I'll dust myself off, and give them a dandy supplemental report about what I saw and how I stuck to rules and regulations.

I see the rats jumping off my ship, and I can read THE WRITING ON THE WALL. I hope you can too.
Stay Safe...

7/30/2016 01:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eddie, The Stripper, Johnson is over the top.
He is pandering to "the community" as much, or more than his puppet master Rahm.
This city and department has become a very disturbing, very disgusting joke.

7/30/2016 01:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

bottom line , respond to all in progress calls with lights , siren , no air horn please
obey traffic signals , drive slow , do not endanger citizens or yourself
park 1/2 block from location of assignment , walk to location , beware or surroundings , with blm , new black panther party calling for more assassinations of police , use extreme caution do not , repeat do not hesitate to neutralize any threat of violence
these groups are supporters of democommie party and the politicians have their back not ours
wtf is going on blm leaders have special eds cell , do any of us , rahmmie ballerina writes letters for people that spit on , punch and attempt to disarm a police captain
two words of advice STAY FETAL . If you value your life , want law and order restored two more words of advice VOTE REPUBLICAN

7/30/2016 01:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess shooting from inside the car while the other is driving away is ok.

7/30/2016 02:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And yet during this terrorist act a merit hack supervisor would have called off the chase anyway and ordered the patrolman to issue a ton of tickets/citations to the terrorist if and when apprehended. Meanwhile McRahm'susedcondom drinks on the arm in the Viagra triangle with mob associates.

7/30/2016 02:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC:"If you do, Eddie Johnson will strip you, send you to call back and fire you"

True statement, but you can also get killed or injured.....

7/30/2016 02:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of Eddie
Is there anyway we can get the murder rate from the time the Crown Caps were implemented as the standard cap for our uniform until now when the baseball caps are back? Point being I was under the impression the crown caps made us look more professional and less likely to abuse or batter, I think it's had the complete opposite effect! I'd love to see the numbers of Agg Batts/ Assaults on our men and women in Blue since these crown caps / Superman shields were implemented.

Just Curious

7/30/2016 02:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Required reading for civilians
http://fredoneverything.org/virtue-and-the-streets-a-dummys-guide-to-police-work/
Not a cop

7/30/2016 02:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Eddie. You say you want to hold us to the same professional and moral standards that you hold yourself to. How about the LIEtenant scandal pal? You Monday morning quarterback some officers split second decision in a high stress environment and pick out policies they violated with your sackless buddies. How do you sleep at night knowing you are just Rahms puppet with his hand far up your ass and fuck over officers to save face.

7/30/2016 02:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Damn shame,things need to go back to the way they were! Wording should change to,if an attempt to use veh or has been used to strike or use veh as a weapon use of force is entitled upon discretion of victim perceiving or receiving threat,no different than a plastic gun used in an armed robbery!

7/30/2016 03:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Major Blockrounder said...


Well Put S.C.C.

Ridiculous order for today's real world threats.

7/30/2016 03:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We were talking about this the other day when the shotguns were taken away.

Seriously, how could a cop on the scene stop a rampaging kamikaze truck with what might be available. A 9mm, .45 or .223 won't do much good and we don't even have STOP STICKS.

All that is left is to stand in front hold up your right hand, do like the HAYMARKET RIOT STATUE and give a blast on your Traffic Ace whistle.

Anyone have a surplus L.A.W.S. rocket.

7/30/2016 04:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eddie "Star Collector" Johnson strikes again!!!

7/30/2016 04:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know the circumstances, but I do know if a stolen car takes off on me and my partner, adios asshole! It's a shame people still don't get it. Stop chasing, including foot chases for bs! 1st and 16th counts guys! These po's believed they were doing what? More likely a misdemeanor and now stripped, call back and unnecessary stress!

Get the clue you hard chargers, let them go! Respond only when blue needs you! It's been said many times before, but for gods sake, band together, unite and stop being proactive.

7/30/2016 05:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...Anonymous The Neanderthal said...
"What is up with all of the money which the department has spent to allow Georgas and some of his cronies to travel and train with US Special Forces/SEAL..."

— yes if fact he did !
As his crony pack tossed beach balls around with their snouts, Seal Georgas tooted "My Kinda Town" on bicycle horns. The closing act featured diving into a deep pool and then waddle single file to the top of a simulated rock, clapping their fins in unison while barking out orders.
Each received a cod for the outstanding performance.

7/30/2016 05:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Rahm called out specifically on "sanctuary" policy

"The mayor of Chicago, the IG report noted, has been defiant, stating publicly, 'We are not going to turn people over to ICE, and we are not going to check their immigration status. We will check for criminal background, but not for immigration status.'

“This is a big deal. This OIG report is the clearest statement yet from the federal government that sanctuary policies like California’s and Chicago’s obstruct immigration enforcement and violate federal law.”

7/30/2016 12:06:00 PM

Ref. --

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/29/california-risks-135m-in-federal-grants-over-sanctuary-city-policy.html

7/30/2016 05:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

New CPD policy, die first and then do something. Because Chicago politicians and especially CPD leadership DO NOT care for police officers.

7/30/2016 05:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just sit back and enjoy the show, brought to you by the boyz in da hood.
The best part is you get paid.

7/30/2016 05:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Make sure you work vri

7/30/2016 07:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Car's should b banded!

7/30/2016 07:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Officers please stop doing ANYTHING proactive!!! Handle calls and back each other up, that's it!!! Don't let this happen to you next!! Policing in this country is over. Let them have it..

7/30/2016 07:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well Eddie you set it up for younger hair gel coppers to go out and work and in return ........ You strip them. Lesson learned to all you young super stars.

7/30/2016 08:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This City fucking sucks! I am disgusted at the way this Police Dept. is run!

The citizens need to know the truth!

Otherwise, I see the same thing happening on a crowded Wrigley Field game day at the corner of Addison and Clark!

Just saying, it is time to wake the fuck up and revise these stupid General Orders!

If ISIS had a copy of our General Orders, they would laugh and call us stupid!

7/30/2016 08:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic. Check out the unit summary in 016 and 017. 6 beat cars are down in 016 and 017 has several cars down on a Saturday night

7/30/2016 08:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Speaking of Eddie
Is there anyway we can get the murder rate from the time the Crown Caps were implemented as the standard cap for our uniform until now when the baseball caps are back? Point being I was under the impression the crown caps made us look more professional and less likely to abuse or batter, I think it's had the complete opposite effect! I'd love to see the numbers of Agg Batts/ Assaults on our men and women in Blue since these crown caps / Superman shields were implemented.

Just Curious

7/30/2016 02:27:00 PM

Unfortunately there is no research or data to support this claim but if I had to guess I would side on the part of the crown cap. The reason for this is that the images we have seen since early childhood of men whom are respected and in control have typically been military men wearing crown style caps. If you do need or want to read up on something similar I believe years ago that the New York City Police Department did a study on which officers were attacked more between officers wearing a leather jacket and cloth police jacket in which the results were that officers wearing the leather jacket were attacked significantly less perhaps because of the image bestowed of one wearing leather as being "tough" in movies. Unfortunately the jacket can not be worn by newbies as you must be grandfathered in, such a shame because a leather jacket if cared for properly is one of the few pieces of equipment that will last you your career. Here is a youtube vid so you can decide for yourself and by the way General Pattons leather Jacket is on display to this day. Stay safe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmlUDLu24vg

7/30/2016 08:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And as I look across the lockups citywide I see that these hard chargers STILL don't get it! 011,015,025,005 all busy with dope pinches etc. For the love of God and your family, please stop!!

7/30/2016 08:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Logic and the Blog are not reaching enough P.O.'s!

7/30/2016 09:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"We were talking about this the other day when the shotguns were taken away."

7/30/2016 04:11:00 PM

Looks like the shotguns all went to Rio for Olympic security operation. (City doesn't have a sewage treatment plant, but they are spending 900 million dollars on security. Thank God the Games didn't come here.)

BIG photo spread here.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3714896/Welcome-Olympics-shadow-ISIS-Ring-steel-Rio-Brazilians-prepare-for.html

7/30/2016 09:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"We don't even have STOP STICKS."

7/30/2016 04:11:00 PM

Those are inherently racist. We must learn to respect cultures in which stopping is not part of daily life.

Not even some sawhorses to keep Lemon Record out of your face.

Christ, remember '68? The National Guard brought in Jeeps with metal frames on the front, laced with barbed wire. Rolling bobwire fence, yes sir.

It used to be called "riot control."

7/30/2016 09:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nonymous said...
Gotta love Special Ed's department email.

Hey Ed, we were doing very little and now it's NONE, NADA, NOTHING.

No apology tour needed.

You have completely ruined this Dept.


7/30/2016 07:33:00 AM

Last time he prematurely stripped those coppers and he sent de-Escalante on his informational tour, Mr Six told us that "in a few weeks this will all make sense, I can't tell you right now but in 2 weeks you will say "oh...that's what he meant, now it all makes sense". That has been several weeks and nothing came out about that case like he said. Just another bullshitter kicking the can down the road. He lost ALL credibility in my book.

7/30/2016 10:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
As sworn members are we obligated to take action when there's a potential for loss of life ?????

7/30/2016 11:30:00 AM

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Yes, troll.

7/30/2016 10:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Eddie. You say you want to hold us to the same professional and moral standards that you hold yourself to. How about the LIEtenant scandal pal? You Monday morning quarterback some officers split second decision in a high stress environment and pick out policies they violated with your sackless buddies. How do you sleep at night knowing you are just Rahms puppet with his hand far up your ass and fuck over officers to save face.

7/30/2016 02:56:00 PM

The guy didn't even apply for the position! Rahm made him sell his soul to get his girl friend, LIEtennant fenner out from under the scandal!

Be my Bitch and your girl will be safe!

7/30/2016 10:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Big arrest = Big problem
Little arrest = Little problem
No arrest = No problem

Just sayin....

7/30/2016 10:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe the family will sue the car owners for the offenders death for not having a safe driving experience.

7/30/2016 10:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There will be Blood.

7/30/2016 10:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

16 more months and I'm done. I've had it with incompetent leadership. It doesn't pay to be proactive. What a sad commentary for policing in America. Crime will continue to spiral out of control and the people will bitch if we do something and bitch if we don't do something. December 31, 2017 can't get here fast enough.

7/30/2016 10:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All calls end in 19paul

7/30/2016 10:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey SCC,

ASK FOP
To invite a few French Police officers involved in the Nice terrorist truck event to come to Chicago?

Maybe the Superintendent and Mayor would like to ask them in person how they stopped a truck killing people?

we are a sister city?


7/30/2016 10:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And now there are 3. The stripper stripped the 3rd officer today.

7/30/2016 10:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Saw Weezie at VCG buying Capt bars at Vcg than buying Fire Engine red lipstick at Macy for ReRun!!!

7/30/2016 10:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't give any of these cocksuckers anything for labor stay. Let's stay unite, like they unite against us, and force them to make us work OT

7/30/2016 10:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What the fuck guys and gals...........they're sending you a message......stand the fuck down.

7/30/2016 10:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Police like you have no friends...

7/30/2016 10:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now a third one is stripped. Just saw it on the news.

7/30/2016 11:15:00 PM  
Blogger "anonymous " said...

What I'm getting from this is that gang banging car thieves aren't expendable, police officers and their careers are.

7/30/2016 11:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A wise old timer told me 30+ years ago.....
"And tomorrow when you get here..... It will only be worse"
Words to live by and pass along to the new kids on the job.

7/30/2016 11:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
We were talking about this the other day when the shotguns were taken away.

Seriously, how could a cop on the scene stop a rampaging kamikaze truck with what might be available. A 9mm, .45 or .223 won't do much good and we don't even have STOP STICKS.

All that is left is to stand in front hold up your right hand, do like the HAYMARKET RIOT STATUE and give a blast on your Traffic Ace whistle.

Anyone have a surplus L.A.W.S. rocket.

7/30/2016 04:11:00 PM



IT DON'T MATTER.

Other than you and "us", nobody cares.

It's over.

It's over Rambo.

Too bad you missed out on the fun. IT was the greatest time of my life.

NOBODY CARES.

Too bad.

7/30/2016 11:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sad to say but this trend of stripping officers is not going to cease anytime soon. Also, I predict the majority of shooting officers will be victim's of political demagoguery and not based on facts, supreme court law or reasonableness. Please, please, don't take things personal on the street, take a step back, smile and just be glad it's not your neighborhood.

7/31/2016 12:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...


Car's should b banded!

7/30/2016 07:28:00 PM


With rubber bands? Or heavy metal bands? Be more specific, please.

7/31/2016 12:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...


"Rahm called out specifically on "sanctuary" policy

"The mayor of Chicago, the IG report noted, has been defiant, stating publicly, 'We are not going to turn people over to ICE, and we are not going to check their immigration status. We will check for criminal background, but not for immigration status.'

“This is a big deal. This OIG report is the clearest statement yet from the federal government that sanctuary policies like California’s and Chicago’s obstruct immigration enforcement and violate federal law.”

7/30/2016 12:06:00 PM

Ref. --

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/29/california-risks-135m-in-federal-grants-over-sanctuary-city-policy.html

7/30/2016 05:34:00 PM


It's about damn time.

7/31/2016 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't want you do much in my neighborhood except be seen once in a while and come when we call.

I know how to make the call to 9-1-1 so the call taker can't toss it off Call Back. > "Retired P.O. at the scene of burglary holding the open door at gun point."

7/31/2016 05:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Saw Weezie at VCG buying Capt bars at Vcg than buying Fire Engine red lipstick at Macy for ReRun!!!

7/30/2016 10:32:00 PM
------------
Is this code? Can anyone translate?

7/31/2016 09:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Big arrest = Big problem
Little arrest = Little problem
No arrest = No problem

Just sayin....


Careful with this. You will be stripped for failure to take police action


7/31/2016 09:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The message is fuck officer safety and fuck it if someone gets killed. It's all about liability

7/31/2016 10:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"To invite a few French Police officers involved in the Nice terrorist truck event to come to Chicago?

"Maybe the Superintendent and Mayor would like to ask them in person how they stopped a truck killing people?"

7/30/2016 10:25:00 PM

Shouldn't have happened in the first place. Truck was A. ignored on two days of its practice runs even though it was huge and 4X legal weight on the promenade, and B. no one said "Ice cream delivery, huh? Open up the back and let's see" when it was finally pulled over. Now they are trying to cover this up.

7/31/2016 10:39:00 AM  
Blogger Greg Camp said...

An Atlanta Police Officer was fired and now facing trial for the exact same thing. Some gangbanger out at 4am, wanted to play a game with his car. Well, Tayquan won the prize and now a " martyr" for the BLM movement.

7/31/2016 10:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic. Check out the unit summary in 016 and 017. 6 beat cars are down in 016 and 017 has several cars down on a Saturday night

7/30/2016 08:26:00 PM

Don't forget 014. 1st watch generally has 4-5 down cars per night, with 2 or fewer officers using elective time. Then there's the car that is detailed to a specific location for the full tour every night, unable to take any jobs. So let's call that another down car. Then we have the idiotic policy that sergeants must ride with a P.O. instead of another sergeant. 2 sergeants on the street means another car is down so the sergeants get partners. 4 sergeants means two more cars down. Combine all that with the fact that one of the beat cars also acts as the wagon. Then we have the various hospital details or downed wires or crime scenes that take other cars out of service. Add in a backlog and you've got a nice recipe for dead cops. When you have maybe one or two cars to handle an entire district, what happens when an officer needs help? What happens when a citizen legitimately needs immediate police assistance? People will get hurt. People will die. This city and department have created a completely unsafe environment for their police and their citizens by refusing to hire the necessary amount of police. An entire district isn't supposed to be, nor can it be policed by 2-4 police officers. We have a severe manpower shortage that the city and department refuse to do anything about. The media refuses to talk about the reality of it. The citizens are misled as to the extent of it. People are being victimized because of it. Police are being put in greater danger because of it. But hey, at least the city is saving money. At least the taxpayers aren't being killed at the same rate as the freeloaders... yet. The blood is on your hands, Eddie and Rahm. You're responsible for all of this. Keep stripping officers from your already severely depleted department. Keep sucking up to the criminals that cause us to use force on them. Keep remaining silent in the media while sending your bullshit emails attempting to kiss our asses. You've ruined a once proud department and city. You've caused nothing but problems since being put in your positions. You are failures. You're killing people. Fuck you.

7/31/2016 11:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Car's should b banded!

7/30/2016 07:28:00 PM


With rubber bands? Or heavy metal bands? Be more specific, please.

7/31/2016 12:20:00 AM

How about marching bands?

🎼Cheer, cheer for old Special Ed
Although he keeps on shitting the bed
Keep working all that overtime
Just don't get jammed up on VRI
What though the odds be great or small
Old Special Ed will win over all,
While his loyal troops are marching
Onward to victory.🎵

7/31/2016 11:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well Eddie you set it up for younger hair gel coppers to go out and work and in return ........ You strip them. Lesson learned to all you young super stars.

7/30/2016 08:13:00 PM

Lesson learned? They don't learn. They're still chasing stolen cars and drugs. They don't get it and never will. Their egos won't allow it. This is just a job, people. You are not superheroes. You aren't saving the world. You're just digging your own graves. Put the shovel down and watch the ghetto burn with the rest of us.

7/31/2016 12:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stay fetal. PROTECT your family only. The Dept. REFUSES to back you up to stop a threat on wheels.

7/31/2016 02:02:00 PM  
Blogger Roster Home said...

This topic should get a wider airing on national talk shows, etc, regarding what kind of b.s. the Chicago cops are being subjected to regarding vehicles, use of deadly force. This may have passed by most people's attention before, but in the wake of Nice, France, hopefully this topic will get a new airing.

Also, please don't get mad if I give a shout out to my blog, which collects jail roster data, mugshots, etc starting in Champaign County but in other places as well. Just doing my little part.

rosterhome.blogspot.com

7/31/2016 04:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The inmates are running the asylum, and men with brains and balls the size of BB's are running this Department. Thank God "I WAS "
The Police when I was and not know. Things that they gave me Department awards for they probably would fire me for now.

8/01/2016 01:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let them get away, "give them room to destroy". Political Correctness and pandering to minorities has destroyed this country!

8/01/2016 01:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One officer fires and the others fire also thinking they are fired upon. Only fire your weapon based on your own perceptions and observations. Firing your weapon only because another officer did isn't a good enough reason. Confirm your target and threat. If you are not 100% sure about your target and threat, cover and/or move until you do regardless what others do. Be safe be smart.

8/01/2016 03:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>>>Anonymous Anonymous said...


"Rahm called out specifically on "sanctuary" policy

"The mayor of Chicago, the IG report noted, has been defiant, stating publicly, 'We are not going to turn people over to ICE, and we are not going to check their immigration status. We will check for criminal background, but not for immigration status.'

“This is a big deal. This OIG report is the clearest statement yet from the federal government that sanctuary policies like California’s and Chicago’s obstruct immigration enforcement and violate federal law.”

7/30/2016 12:06:00 PM

Ref. --

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/29/california-risks-135m-in-federal-grants-over-sanctuary-city-policy.html

7/30/2016 05:34:00 PM<<<

But here is what happens when they are turned over to Obama's Democommunist
Department of Homeland Security

This will infuriate you! Please watch and pass on.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/2QOwAJ2ez6U

8/01/2016 10:51:00 PM  
Blogger Roster Home said...

Follow up to my previous comment...I have written a "public email" to Sean Hannity of Fox News about this issue, urging him to look at this dumb policy in Chicago. And then I wrote a follow up email, urging Hannity to check to see if other cities have adopted similar use of force policies, or does Chicago stand alone as a shining dim bulb upon a hill?

If anybody else wants to jump on this important bandwagon, and urge Hannity to report on Chicago's lame-especially-in-light-of-what-happened-in-Nice-France use of force policy, here is where you can write a "public email" to Hannity...well, after you create a profile; because you gotta do that to comment.

http://www.fastnote.com/sean-hannity

I created a profile just so I could contact Hannity about this. This is upsetting. Lots of stuff on this blog is upsetting in so many ways, but THIS!!!! Special Ed, you should be tried for treason.

And if anybody wants to check out my blog, and see what I am TRYING to achieve through publishing and preserving jail rosters in Champaign County, Illinois, and elsewhere, please check out http://rosterhome.blogspot.com

8/02/2016 06:30:00 AM  
Blogger Roster Home said...

Here is what I posted for Hannity, and one guy who responded, my typos and character limits on comments and all.

To: Sean Hannity -
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Chicago Versus Nice, France
Please take a look at the Second City blog, written by a Chicago cop, his July 30 article called Logical Extreme. Chicago apparently has a police use of force policy that says an officer may not fired into a vehicle being used as a weapon as long as the only weapon is the vehicle! Nice in Chicago?
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Aug 2, 2016
5:29AM
Commenter #1: What? For Real? So a car can be driving into a cafe (like in Nice) and a police officer can't try and shoot him to stop him? How would they even know if there were other weapons in the vehicle?
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Aug 2, 2016
6:33AM
Note Writer: I wish I could post a link to his individual blog post but he hasn't enabled individual links. This is for real. In Chicago, policy is you can't fire into a vehicle being used as a weapon as long as it's ONLY a vehicle and no other weapon. They could be killing citizens like flies, dragging them...
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Aug 2, 2016
6:36AM
Note Writer: ...laundry, and the policy is THE POLICE CAN'T FIRE INTO THE VEHICLE. Cops in that city call the guy who came up with this police "Special Ed" because, for starters, his name is Ed. Read the Second City Cop blog, July 30, scroll down a bit. http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/
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Note Writer: "Like" laundry. Dragging citizens LIKE laundry. Sorry about the typo. They could be dragging them like laundry, like cans behind a wedding car, like a dead deer on the hood in deer season and, oh, policy in Chicago is the cops can't shoot! Get "Special Ed" to answer for this!!!!

8/02/2016 06:43:00 AM  
Blogger Roster Home said...

So I wrote to Hannity on the so-called Fast Note system but does Hannity read those emails? Not sure. I have come to learn Fast Note public emails are really more like public forums.

So I wrote a note to Sean Hannity at his show. Here is the note:

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ean, please check out the Second City Cop blog and read his blog entry dated July 30. He does not have individual blog post links.

According to Second City Cop, Chicago has a use of force policy for its police department that says a cop may not fire into a vehicle being used as a weapon...as long as ONLY the vehicle is being used as a weapon.

So if a situation like the one in Nice, France was happening, citizens could be dragged behind the vehicle like laundry on a clothesline, like cans tied behind a wedding car, they could be mashed in the radiator like bugs, they could be dead on the hood like a deer and if the police were true to their policy...they could not fire at the vehicle!

Please look into this, as well as all the other cities which may have similar police use of force policies. It is ridiculous!

*************

Here is where I wrote to Hannity. I would urge others to write to him about this issue, as well:

http://www.hannity.com/pages/contact.html

8/03/2016 02:20:00 AM  

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