How it Went Down
From someone wired in:
- There were 7 people stripped yesterday: 4 officers, 1 detective, and 2 sergeants. The detective walked out of the room and resigned on the spot. One of the sergeants and one of the officers are most likely resigning too.
That leaves 1 field sergeant and 3 coppers from 008 to fight for their jobs. IAD informed all that were stripped that this has been fast tracked to the Police Board and separation was being sought for all and that they should expect to be in a no pay status as soon as next week.
Most involved were served by IG's office with upwards of 15-30 allegations and see little hope in gambling with their accrued CU which in a few instances is several thousand hours which cannot be touched once placed in no pay status and will be forfeited if the police board upholds the separation.
The sergeant from 008 was never interviewed by the Feds, states attorneys, or brought to the grand jury. He was ordered 8 hours later to approve a case report without a narrative and review TRRs so the Deputy Chief could approve them. Four weeks ago the IG decided to serve him with 20 allegations alleging he took part in a cover up. Now he is stripped and facing separation.
It's important that we stick together and keep this story alive so that we will not continue to be used as pawns in Rahm's sick game of chess. Also, it is highly likely that all will be charged with Official Misconduct by the Special Prosecutor, especially now that the department has branded this a cover up and tainted all involved as liars and co conspirators.
Sure looks like a lot of reversible error there, along with more than a little misconduct regarding the railroading....we mean the "investigation."
And all just to distract the media so nearly half-a-dozen cheaters from IAD can get away with stealing a promotion. Amazing that reporters never ask the questions that might show how corrupt the entire organization actually is - the watchers are the ones steering the ship with one hand while they loot the place with the other. They cover for the clouted and get "promoted" so they can keep covering for the future clouted.
It's the "Circle of the Connected Life."
And all just to distract the media so nearly half-a-dozen cheaters from IAD can get away with stealing a promotion. Amazing that reporters never ask the questions that might show how corrupt the entire organization actually is - the watchers are the ones steering the ship with one hand while they loot the place with the other. They cover for the clouted and get "promoted" so they can keep covering for the future clouted.
It's the "Circle of the Connected Life."
Labels: corruption
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
255 Comments:
Seems like a bad Diehard movie.
And the Superintendant is still in bed, literally, with one of the cheaters. The former first deputy superintendents wife was the top scorer. a few others from HQ, one who was a double merit ( det then sgt), miraculously scored in the top 10. What's going on Mr Ferguson? How transparent will your office and city hall be on this? Are you taking orders by Rahm on this one too?
Distraction from IAD? What about from the mayor? I remember when SCC first questioned the $5,000,000.00 settlement with the family without even a trial. The city won't even write a check for anything over $1000,000.00 without it going to City Council for approval and this family got $5,000,000.00 without even a trial?
Oh, come on Mr. Mayor. You knew what happened and now you're using these coppers to cover your own disgrace. And how the media whores play along is pitiful. As for the IG, you call yourself a protector of the people for the people. Shame on you.
I know from experience the people of Chicago will soon forget these coppers but I hope the rest of us don't forget them. These are coppers just like us. They have families and they worked day in and day out with just along side us. And now a they're being used to protect the clouted and powerful.
To the scabs working CTA, and VRI Labor Day weekend I hope you get into some shit and ask yourself was it worth it. I know I won't be helping you out.
This has to come out ! These officers are getting crucified! No due process, losing their jobs before the case even goes to trial? They did NOTHING wrong! 1 man (Ferguson's) opinion and they fire these officers.This is complete fu-King BS! You disgust me you fat POS EJ!
Your facts are off a bit. A sgt(not merit) from Area Central was stripped and put in no pay status. A det from Area Central did retire, but he had 33 years in. What's sickening is that Cmdr McNaughton(008 at time)was allowed to retire and so was Chief of Detectives Eugene Roy(Area Central Cmdr at time)right before the little people got fired. If there was a "conspiracy to cover up", they must have been involved. The recently appointed chief of police at Northeastern University, John Escalante, was Chief of Detectives at time of McDonald shooting and was the final person to approve the justified conclusion. Nobody should be fired. Nobody shot McDonald but Van Dyke, and he's been charged with MURDER! Where is the cover up? Escalante, Roy, McNaughton got promoted after this shooting!!!!! Two sets of rules. One for the exempts and one for the little people.
The cover up was by Rahm. Lying f&cking thief. Hillary is even worse. I hope this is fought real hard. I hope there is a real slowdown and I pray Hillary does not get in. Best of luck to those who are used as pawns in this filthy disgusting charade.
Pay heed to what is happening in this department regarding misconduct or perceived misconduct. Before you make a statement, before you write a report, before you submit the report, before you approve the report, make sure that you are not rubber stamping that statement or report. Don't feel peer pressure should make you say or write something you would not otherwise say or write. Don't let a supervisor influence you to say or write what you are not comfortable with. And for you sergeants, read the damn report and if necessary kick it back for errors or corrections. To do otherwise could cost you your job. Whether intentional or not, there is now evidence that any and all suspected of a Rule 14 violation will be on the chopping block.
Sounds like someone should have signed it "By Direction of"?
The poster is incorrect about forfeited CU time once you are separated. Those are your hours and will payed out to them.
When does it come out that Eddie Johnson, Escalante, & Roy, all saw the video and reports related to the shooting and all agreed with the findings? When does it come out Rham saw the video? F these ass holes, leaving these officers hi & dry. You talk about being thrown under the bus , this is a political cover-up. Wait until VG gives a big NG! Then we can all watch this city go up in flames!
We are all expendable. Don't be the one.
Stay safe, stay employed, stay out of prison,
STAY FETAL
CU cannot be taken away.
They'll all get fired in the kangaroo police board hearing and will get their jobs back from an Illinois appellate judge.
Anyone wanna work in 008? I heard a railroad runs right through the district
Sickening.
Throw away your handcuffs everybody.
A word of advise for those thinking of coming on this job: DON'T.
When you hear a "shots fired" call, make your minimum response time 10 minutes
This is the biggest test FOP 7 has ever faced. Too bad we have the little rat in charge.
Take a week and call up every known writer & editor in Chicago Media.....get the story out...you can do it....begin with a dozen callers....expand the group cause it will 'feel' so right, so worthwhile...Radio Personalities, Newscasters, Trib, Times, Cgo Mag, Reader, DNA, Patch, Mark Konkle (he wants to make a dent in things not right), think of more....forget Kass (He's over. Done & Flunked the test. Old man before his time). Pressure!! 'Build it and they will come'.
OT: re 'Windy City Live', afternoon TV on Channel 7....how is it they are allowed to regularly and constantly jam Trump yet hail Hillary?? Clearly a strident bias. Equal opportunity, fairness where are you?
It is paramount to Rahm that JVD be convicted. What a shitstorm if he walks.
IAD is so corrupt, these guys will gladly fire,suspend, and force cops to resign. But guess what happens when your clouted, I KNOW! SGT. whats his name and IAD whats his name get breaks.
This unfair treatment has got to stop.Start using FOIA requests and call out the abusive acts of IAD. When FOIA requests are denied, sue the City.
"Amazing that reporters never ask the questions that might show how corrupt the entire organization actually is - the watchers are the ones steering the ship with one hand while they loot the place with the other. They cover for the clouted and get 'promoted' so they can keep covering for the future clouted.
It's the 'Circle of the Connected Life.'"
Ex-Superintendent McCarthy, in an interview with John Kass of the Tribune had this to say;
"You need legitimate government to have a legitimate police department. And I'm not quite sure anybody believes we have that in the city of Chicago."
Love him or hate him, he hit the nail on the head with this statement. Wouldn't it be fun if he was a mole for the feds?
rb
These cops need some help like this guy is getting:
http://www.StandWithErick.org
Totally off topic but I can't believe the Trib actually said it!!!
Road to urban despair paved by Democrats - Chicago Tribune https://apple.news/AbgOXkFblTJ673eU0XIvj8w
BANG!!! Hours later, they arrest 100 or so jag offs, grab under a dozen guns. Claim they are going after 100 or so more! So, a little less than 500 on your "LIST" of 1400, this year, computer generated! How many of those 1400 are behind bars currently? Before you put the names in the computer? IDOC, not Dart's catch and release.
Smoke and mirrors!!! Labor Day weekend is 2 weeks away. Sadly, 80% of the 100, or 200 jagoffs will be on the street before Labor Day.
So 9 1/2 wants to let the jagoffs add to their time, Tdart wants to not do his job?
The strategy is a sham. Sounds like 9 1/2 dislikes not being able to control Tdart.
Maybe Tiny Dancer needs to hire more cops. And teach them how to chute (or dis arm) a jagoff that directs a weapon at the missing digit ballerina.
Sadly, Labor day weekend will be a cluster fuck. The one's who volunteered, BULLSHIT. Show some damn unity and pride. The clouted run the department. Dean,is lax,he can also be voted out.
At the end of the day, this is a job, a career, protect your pension. Your brothers and sisters, led the path for you. Talk to them and change your leadership.
Your number 1 concern, is your pension, for your family. Being a cop, a CPD cop, is a dangerous job, unless your "Clout".
Not a cop.
All the while McNaughton collects his first pension check in a week and Escalante gets his double dip in a couple weeks. Keep working boys and girls.
Everyone knows what happens at a shooting. The gold stars take over and basically order you what to do. Hey sarge just approve that so we can take a look at it. Who are you to argue you are just a lowly Sgt. No Sgt will ever fall for this again.
Would you rather be catching fish?
How do Lie-Tenant Fenner and Eddie-the Axe Man sleep at night?
How can they look theirselves in the mirror?
Just remember. Karma can be a BITCH!
SCC, for 10 years you have been shining the light and giving a voice to people (and folks) that would not normally have one. Thank you.
Get the f@&k out of here....I love how you always got twenty chiefs telling one Indian what to do and in the end it's always the Indian stuck holding the bag
OT: zone 1 017 went up for grabs tonight
Prayers to the family's.....
I hope the connected ones can kick back some money and thank them for taking the end of the stick.
STOP playing in the middle of the street boys and girls. No arrest unless, there are some sign complaints. No matter the numerous amounts of unnoticed good deeds you have made. They don't matter when the $h!tt hits the fan.
Be safe, be wise, be humble, and appreciate the ones who are waiting for you at home.
God Bless you my brothers and sisters in blue.
This truly is really really sad!!! I will never ever make another proactive arrest again in my life that is a promise from me to you. I will never forget what this Superintendent has done to you Officers. Eddie Johnson you have killed my moral for the rest of my life on this job, dame you where is your heart and conscious at. How can you live with yourself the rest of your life knowing what you just did?
"Sure seems like a lot of reversible error..." Yes, but pursuing it comes with a high price in legal fees and emotional turmoil for the member and his/her family. Then, when it is all done even if you win, where do you go to get your reputation back? These officers are just food for the maw of the politicians who are cowering before the revruns', BLM's, and SJW's demand for raw meat. The rights of POs all across this country are being sacrificed on the altar of false progressive narratives. There has developed in this country a prejudice against LEOs based on the false premise that all are untrained, out of control racists who target blacks and other minorities. While nothing could be further from the truth, that is the Big Lie that has gained currency and is literally tearing the heart out of law enforcement. The result of the assault on law enforcement can be seen in the rising crime rates and, especially, murder rates in Chicago, Milwaukee, Baltimore and every city where the powers that be have given in to the hue and cry of the progressive liberal movement.
To undo the damage that has been done will take a monumental effort by law enforcement and it's supporters. But even if it starts right now, a movement to turn the tide will take hundreds of millions of dollars and several years. Sorry to be the bearer of such bad news, but It is believed this is an honest assessment of the state of affairs. God Bless the CPD and all LEOs who put it on the line everyday.
Still feel like being proactive coppers?
The city can start kissing the P.D. goodbye now. The criminals are seeing the numbers drop and the inept put in charge. They don't want no cops around and your (their) mayor will deliver.
Stay safe Officers.
J.J.
Am I reading this correctly, The IG served the allegations?
Better look at contract, since this document has no provision for answering any questions from the IG.
only IPRA and IAD can do investigations. Now unless contract is being rewritten, there is no fast tracking of
any way in this matter.
And to strip a Sgt. without even being interviewed sounds shake too.
The IG can do all the investigating they want but the way contract and Department orders are set up, only
IPRA and IAD can do investigation on officer misconduct. To talk to the IG violates the contract and
sets up precedent for others indicating IG has authority over CPD.
SORRY but it does not sound right.
I should know I worked IAD for over 10 years and each time accused was identified as CPD the allegations were
dumped to IPRA or IAD to perform questions and findings.
No sgt will approve any report until he personally reviews all camera footage available to him. Sorry Street Deputy, I cannot approve this just yet.... you will have to get in line behind the one bagger, the domestic, and the missing. Don't like it? Have more desk sgts.... thank you sir, I will call you when I'm ready for you.
As I have said before, they threw a large amount of allegation at all of them to see what may stick.
This is a watch hunt trying to force members to quit quickly. Not to find the truth.
This is clearly a power move to show public the city can handle this. But they fail to tell anyone
what allegation are for?
rule 14 false reports written or oral.
rule 2 conduct unbecoming member.
What this looks like is Baltimore all over. Just the Department is doing it not States Attorny.
I have been stripped, transfered to POW status and waited for three years.
Then 2 days at Police Board, where unanimous finding saying no evidence of allegation.
The system is rigged to punish member prior to any determination of findings.
But Bosses never get treated that way?
Fight it or roll over and take it.
This is absolutely disgusting. A Sgt gets called in off the street to just approve a report and trr s that he has no knowledge of or takes part in the investigation, and they want to fire him??? Fck them!!!! This is disgusting. I will never follow an order like that again, Hey can you do me a favor? No , fck you!
The reporters don't dare ask Rahm the tough questions. If they do, they are required to lick his tiny boots.
Anybody, with any time on Da Job knows that McCarthy saw that video within 24 hours of the incident as did Rahm's Police Liaison; remember, Rahm has "Buffers", especially those that work as liaison from the 5th Fl. to CPD. If you recall a few weeks ago their "Talking Points" to Six Flags were made public in another matter. So if there is any issue of Accountability in this, which was clearly a Heater Case, just before a Mayoral Election, an Election that could have been lost by Rahm, the responsibility falls all the way up the chain of command, and the CIVILIANS WORKING FOR RAHM, WHO REALLY RUN THE DEPARTMENT. YEP, FACE THE REALITY, THE SUPT., FIRST DEPUTY ALL DANCE TO THE TUNE FROM CITY HALL. REMEMBER THE TALKING POINTS EXPOSED BY DNA INFO? Escalante and McNumbnuts, and the Bronx Bull Dog all had the authority, the morning after the incident to say this does not look right, dig some more. Escalante, McNumbnuts, McCarthy; everyone at every level above the P.O.s,and Field Sgt., could have simply kicked the reports back and not approved them. So Escalante walks away with a combined income between his pension and new job, of almost $250,000.00 a year! While the coppers in 008 lose their jobs and means of caring for their families. Where is the Accountability in CPD? Where is the Integrity? Has it become an Every Rat for Himself environment simply to protect the aspirations of the Tiny Dancer? Anyone who risks his career or freedom for the Freak Show at City Hall, all of Rahm's Commie, Police Hating imported Gays, anyone who lifts a finger beyond simply responding to calls and doing the bare minimum, IS A FOOL, CHUMP AND POTENTIAL VICTIM! Wake up and face reality, the Cover-Up came from City Hall, and the cops are collateral damage. City Hall, not CPD were the only ones with the authority to maintain the Cover-Up and Deception. Baby"G"
OFf Topic why does the Catholic Church involved with our Police contract, can the FOP contact Rome and rid of this Father Faker signed a Protestant
So lets see, CPD has the IGs office watching it, IPRA watching it, IAD watching it, and the DOJ watching it. Did I miss anyone? Now Tiny Dancer wants some kind of another civilian committee to watch us. While CPD is being watched so intently the creatures at city hall and the top rungs of CPD are raping, pillaging, and ransacking the city and the department. Ah, yea, that makes real sense! The city and the department are doomed!
Could someone write a quick review of the disaplinary process? Open scource info only. Don't really know how it goes (thank God). What is the difference between being stripped and being fired? When do you go before the Police Board? Why is the IG firing cops?
If this is all that the sergeant did, I hope they fight for their job. That sergeant may not have even been on scene let alone seen the video before approving TRR's.
Rahm has ratcheted it up from driving a bus over us to driving a freight train over us..... these officers are being railroaded!
When are they stripping the merit hack exempts ? Media , BGA, FOP, etc need to call out Mayor/Supt on the double standard.
It's up to those harmed by the cheaters to go put the cheating scandal on the front burner. Those who were passes up, those who are currently waiting on the list. It's obvious the Dept. will do nothing. Get together, Go hire a lawyer. Start filing for copies of the test, internal e mails of Dept. and those involved, personal e mails, find witnesses, etc. hire a test expert to review the actual answers to show how unlikely it is for all to have same answers etc. if not, it ain't going anywhere.
Comp time is not given in a NO pay status?
If you are fired you lose comp time that was earned under federal law as wages?
sergeant approves blank reports? Kinda like locking up somebody on a complaint that is not signed by the victim?
This fast track thing how does that work? It takes year for domestic or shoplifting cases to even be completed but when the Mayor wants people fired its fast tracked? Who decided that a case get fast tracked?
Do the exempts who quit receive their pretty gold retirement star when they are named in an investigation?
30 allegation? really does each round fired count as an allegation? If they charged the detective that took the only notes for lying why wouldn't all the other patrol officer just say i didn't say that to the dick?
When did the patrol officer 1st see the dashcam video?
City trying to make this go away fast I hope these officer hire real lawyers fast!
Not sure how the field Sgt is guilty of anything? He just approves a case report that says "see detectives supp" with no narrative. And reviews NOT approves the Trr or makes any findings?
Something stinks here...
Sad.
If this does not send a message to those still doing pro-active policing, nothing will get through to them.
Rahm will throw as many cops under the Rahm Bus as needed now and in the future to feel the 'Love' from the Rev-runs, and continue his reign.
Those helping Rahm rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic should understand that the few remaining lifeboats are not reserved for them.
This makes me just absolutely sick to my core. I feel so bad for these officers being thrown under the bus. Any officer who does something pro active seriously needs their head checked. You're going to do work for a city and bosses that don't care about you and will use you for their gain. That poor sergeant. I hope we can all come together and do something for these officers involved to help them get through this.
Where is the F.O.P.? When will they ardess this and also the cheating scandal? It's time to stop sitting on our hands.
Someone made a great comment about the Rio swimmers that applies here. And I'm not saying the Police lied. I'm saying that if the leaders are liars and corrupt do you expect more from the average citizen. The term "mispoke" seems to work really well for our leaders. In addition does the DOJ even care or have they looked into the cheating scandal? See previous line about leaders!
I'm retired, and reading this just made me sick to my stomach. If you don't fight any of this it will be come the norm. Your have to take this to court for the fight, the police board is a fucking job. Hope something good comes out of this in the end.
If you are separated by the police board you will lose all of your comp time, that's why most with big hours resign, i.e. Denis Walsh
Wanna roll the dice?
Jimmy O'Donnell was the Commander of 008 during the Van Dyke shooting. He stood around shooting the shit with Captain Dennis Walsh then went home BEFORE everything was brought into the area. He wasn't interested in what was going to happen at the area that night with McNaughton running the investigation. He should have been there for his guys, if for nothing more than moral support. Now 4 of his officers and 1 sergeant are stripped and will soon be fired. How do you reward such loyalty? Promote him to Deputy Chief the SAME day his guys are sacrificed in the name of politics. He also has been on extended medical for the better part of the last year. I guess being a model patient and keeping all of your appointments at the medical section now qualifies you for a promotion. By the way, the 5 former members of you command are still waiting to hear from you after getting stripped.
This story is 100% true. They don't even have the decency to give the stripped officers time to prepare for the loss of wages that will happen next week. Please reach out to all of these fellow officers and let them know you support them as this could be any one of us. We must stand togeher.
CU is forfeited if you are terminated for cause. Fact. If you don't believe me, call the union to verify. This is a major misunderstanding with officers in the field. I know this because I was subject to a similar proceeding.
wait, did someone sign a report with a blank narrative? how is this possible? no to/from written / filed? co complain filed? nothing? does this ACTUALLY happen?? that has to be a mistake ...
Railroading??????? I am the police and I watched "the video". Any other agency in this country let alone this state would have hung Van Dyke out to dry. This is simply an outright bad shooting but what's happening here??? 7 officers needlessly are going to have their lives ruined because of one idiot's mistake. The "we gotta stick together and lie our asses off" bullshit is coming back to haunt 7 officers. The moral of this story is don't lie for an idiot and you won't get burned even though the jagoff laquan deserved to get capped the entire incident was a clusterfuck.The atates attorney, the DOJ, the department and everybody else are all salivating at the thought of fucking so many officers in one fell swoop and why????? The video says it all.
Has Ferguson ever met someone whacked out on PCP?
ahhh you guys will be fine.... just use the Hillary Clinton defense.
Unfortunately you do lose your time if you are separated under Section 26.5 of the FOP contract (except flsa hours). Why the unions would agree to this is beyond me.
When I was stripped last year I thought all the calls to hq from bosses and my exemplary work/ award history would spare me but it didn't. Nobody cares! You're really on your own on this job. I tell the guys at work that you have to be F'n delusional to do any proactive police work. Give them what they want... Nothing!
I'm glad u guys are covering this & im glad u guys r not letting this cheating scandal go it's so fucked that these guys gotta take the fall for a Fukn political agenda it's sad to think of where this once proud dept was It breaks my heart I loved being a police officer & that has been taken from us all & I can't even imagine what these coppers r going thru my heart goes out to them & their families!
This is why they promote political hacks. You loose y o it good name but you get promoted. Then you get fired for the Mayor's political gain and one of his friends hires you. Political chess. The only winner is Tiny Dancer
Scc I hope you or someone posts the names of all the greedy assholes working the OT initiative it's ridiculous we have no Fukn unity because of assholes like them especially in a time when we need to stick together so to you guys that signed up heres a big FUCK YOU!!!!
Don't sign shit without looking it ALL over. I never did. No one can make me sign on anything. Order me all you like. Go find someone else was my response when I last wouldn't approve something that wasn't right. The requestor did just that.....
Still want to be a sergeant? No, thanks! You can have it!!
Got a question about emails and such. If I use my email etc to communicate with my wife, Doctor, or attorney, shouldnt it be privileged? Are we to just hand our phone over to Lovey and Lovey so they can go through our lives? Could we do this to private citizens without a shed of proof of a crime occurring? Seems unreasonable.
Got a question about emails and such. If I use my email etc to communicate with my wife, Doctor, or attorney, shouldnt it be privileged? Are we to just hand our phone over to Lovey and Lovey so they can go through our lives? Could we do this to private citizens without a shed of proof of a crime occurring? Seems unreasonable.
Cops serve at the will of who ever is the cop big guy at the time.
And you'll fight each other tooth and nail to get on Rahm's "security" detail............
And don't expect a f_cking thing from the FOP on this......I've said it before and I'll day it again, as long as Chicago's executive branch wields the power to provide secondary employment and pensions in spots like the CCSP, airports and CTA etc. the FOP's executive board will remain compromised.
Iad had nothing to do with this......this came straight from the mayor's office and the supt rolled over to take care of his cheater girlfriend. Iad was given the task of delivering this finding. One they didn't agree with and did everything they could to stop. Don't judge people there on this one, most everyone is sickened by it. In fact watch people start jumping ship from there in masses.
That Detective should have retired 3 years ago.....No reason to go over 29 and a day. Never has been and never will. I'm retired now. I take no more orders from the city. Bad Ju-Ju for the other officers...I hope they can clear this mess over time. The city has hung them all out to dry. I imagine crime will continue to rise a little more due to this treatment of those officers involved. I don't remember ever the city calling any incident a "cover up" in public. Another baseless allegation. Now the Dean Andrews/Koschman case...That was a cover up!
For Shame, for Shame...
Potential charges obstruction of justice and official misconduct. Remember if you're convicted of a felony in the performance of your job you lose your pension.
Distraction from IAD? What about from the mayor? I remember when SCC first questioned the $5,000,000.00 settlement with the family without even a trial. The city won't even write a check for anything over $1000,000.00 without it going to City Council for approval and this family got $5,000,000.00 without even a trial?
Oh, come on Mr. Mayor. You knew what happened and now you're using these coppers to cover your own disgrace. And how the media whores play along is pitiful. As for the IG, you call yourself a protector of the people for the people. Shame on you.
I know from experience the people of Chicago will soon forget these coppers but I hope the rest of us don't forget them. These are coppers just like us. They have families and they worked day in and day out with just along side us. And now a they're being used to protect the clouted and powerful.
To the scabs working CTA, and VRI Labor Day weekend I hope you get into some shit and ask yourself was it worth it. I know I won't be helping you out.
8/20/2016 12:31:00 AM
I plan to work CHA and Park Dist. OT, isn't my fault that some guys and gals on this job are being disciplined for falsifying bullshit. Doing stupid shit like that, you're begging to be terminated ...
And suck-asses are still out there locking people up, we need to stand up for each other or you will be next, Wake the Hell Up!!!
"Better look at the contract since this document has no provision for answering any questions from the IG only IPRA and IAD can do investigations. Now unless contract is being rewritten, there is no fast tracking of any way in this matter. I should know I worked IAD for over 10 years and each time accused was identified as CPD the allegations were dumped to IPRA or IAD to perform questions and findings"
8/20/2016 06:51:00 AM
Maybe the city knows this and that they'll eventually lose big in court. When the ones fired are rehired, the city will of course blame FOP. Rham will tell the COMMUNITY that he tried to fire everyone but the FOP and their contract is the problem.
Rham is trying to show that he made heads roll so he can say that he cleaned up CPD, which will make his transfer to a Clinton administration more palatable. Thanks to all of the command staff for allowing the daily rape of the CPD. How do you all look in the mirror?!
May God help us all !
A cleansing, from the top on down, is needed. How much more can we take.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
IAD is so corrupt, these guys will gladly fire,suspend, and force cops to resign. But guess what happens when your clouted, I KNOW! SGT. whats his name and IAD whats his name get breaks.
This unfair treatment has got to stop.Start using FOIA requests and call out the abusive acts of IAD. When FOIA requests are denied, sue the City.
8/20/2016 01:22:00 AM
IAD had nothing to do with this investigation. They are just performing an administrative duty by doing the strip for the IG at the direction of the Supt. No one is ever happy to strip another policeman. You have no idea how many policemen have been saved and helped by properly conducted investigations by IAD. You always hear in the media about the low number of Sustained cases. If IAD was so corrupt and against the working policeman the ratio of Sustained cases could go much higher.
That being said, there are a few a@&holes working there with no balls or brains, but the majority of IAD investigators are going to give a break to a working policeman who made a mistake and is not corrupt. Finally, Fenner and White were foisted upon IAD by their clout in order to hide them and pad their resumes until promotion. No one there had any respect for them, and everyone saw that they were lazy and inept investigators. Don't blame everyone in IAD for the actions of the gold stars and the few bad apples.
How about suing the ship jumping exempts personally and the city for creating a hostile work environment?
Judging by the new promotions, we have tough times ahead. A word of advice...if you get into a shooting and Angarone is the Street Deputy..just have a "nyza eeeetalian beeeefa sangweeetch" waiting for his arrival and all will be well!
Lesson to all of our go getters. STOP DOING ANY POLICE WORK. Go very slow to your calls. Take the paper and take your time. Don't be the next news story
Not sure how the field Sgt is guilty of anything? He just approves a case report that says "see detectives supp" with no narrative. And reviews NOT approves the Trr or makes any findings?
Something stinks here...
8/20/2016 07:41:00 AM
They're treating everyone as if they participated in some massive cover-up. No matter what paper they did, or signed, it's seen as a part of this fake conspiracy to protect an officer who supposedly murdered some poor innocent black man. It's now the duty of these officers to prove they weren't part of a cover-up. The sergeant has to prove that he didn't approve the case report in order to facilitate the cover-up. It's all rigged to screw everyone from Sgt on down while the higher ups walk away to collect their big paychecks. This will take years of legal battles and attempts to link everything to Rahm. Maybe the officers will get their jobs back. Maybe they'll avoid prison. Maybe one or two bosses will end up on the hook, despite their attempts to escape by resigning. One thing us for certain though: Rahm is untouchable in all of this. He gets to pretend the police were at fault and he knew only what they told him. He gets to pretend he never saw the video, even we know damn well he saw it almost immediately. He gets to pin it all on the police, while the truth is that he his the video, and his police bosses signed off on everything being on the up and up. Now it's suddenly some massive conspiracy and cover-up with only POs and Sgts taking the fall? When has a cover-up stopped at the lowest levels of any organization? This was all orchestrated by Rahm and his gold stars in order to avoid a scandal while he was trying to get reelected. They all signed off on it being a good shoot. Laquan deserved to die. He earned it by getting high on PCP and running wild with a knife. He's not some innocent victim of the racist police. He's a violent criminal who was killed to protect the lives of police officers and citizens. 16 shots made it look bad, despite it being a justified use of deadly force. So the video was hidden away, the "family" was paid a bunch of money, and they all hoped it would go away. It didn't, so now they're scrambling to find someone to blame. The easiest targets are the ones with the least amount of power, the POs and sergeants. So they take the hit for it all. It's complete and utter bullshit, and I hope everyone eventually comes away from it with their jobs and pensions and lives intact. Those who actually participated in the actual cover-up, hiding the video, I hope they get what they deserve too. Fuck the mayor and the department, and fuck all the morons being shuffled around to newly created or otherwise useless command positions. This department needs a good house cleaning starting at the top. That means you, Eddie.
Even with all of these attacks on the Police, and I still have officers calling me from scene's from their cell phone.
Officers, STOP USING YOUR PERSONAL CELL PHONES FOR POLICE BUSINESS!
Make the city provide the Sgts and Lts with field cell phones.
Get your cell phone out of your name immediately.
Get a prepaid phone to carry while you work, and have the other just for family in someone else's name, and don't carry it with you while on duty.
You can go without talking to everyone for 8 hours.
we used to do it before cell phones where everywhere with a camera on them.
A KMA DET!
Not sure how the field Sgt is guilty of anything? He just approves a case report that says "see detectives supp" with no narrative. And reviews NOT approves the Trr or makes any findings?
Something stinks here...
8/20/2016 07:41:00 AM
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Exactly!!
The Sgt will "review" the trr, the Lt will "approve" it.
That being said, all the supervisor is doing is saying the Officers use of force complied with the assailants threats/actions, as the Officer documented on the trr. Nothing more!
In 30 years, I've never seen a more dysfunctional command structure.
Look out for each other & the front-line supervisors need to make the Officers' well-being their highest priority.
This department really screwed these Officers!
FOP has to step up for the PO's
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The poster is incorrect about forfeited CU time once you are separated. Those are your hours and will payed out to them.
8/20/2016 12:41:00 AM
You might want to educate yourself a bit, if you are fired any comp time you have on the books is wiped out. You get nothing! The lack of knowledge of how this job works is frightening. Just keep listening to rahm and follow his orders and see where it gets you.
As I said months ago, any copper who officially supported Van Dyke's actions immediately put their jobs in jeopardy. Sometimes, actions by some are so out of bounds that cannot be protected by brother/ sister officers. I was a copper for 30 years and you have to use your head. Again, was it worth it?
The FOP needs to provides lawyers to all the officers and sgts, fight!!! One thing is for sure... Eddie Johnson, you are a RAT... with cheaters and liars around you. You don't fool anyone. This whole thing proves that Eddie has lost the department.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Rahm has ratcheted it up from driving a bus over us to driving a freight train over us..... these officers are being railroaded!
8/20/2016 07:29:00 AM
He saw the video before the election, time to make that crystal clear. The talk has begun.
Maybe enough sergeants will retire so that I can get promoted. I am on the list. I am just looking for the silver lining.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OFf Topic why does the Catholic Church involved with our Police contract, can the FOP contact Rome and rid of this Father Faker signed a Protestant
8/20/2016 07:16:00 AM
Its just that old hag phleger trying to keep himself relevant. He realizes that blm is making him irrelevant. He has simply become a clownish oaf whom no one listens to.
The rahm is stil the muppet master
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not sure how the field Sgt is guilty of anything? He just approves a case report that says "see detectives supp" with no narrative. And reviews NOT approves the Trr or makes any findings?
Something stinks here...
8/20/2016 07:41:00 AM
Exactly! Reviews the report for errors in its composition. Street Deputy approves TRR.
Anonymous said...
Not sure how the field Sgt is guilty of anything? He just approves a case report that says "see detectives supp" with no narrative. And reviews NOT approves the Trr or makes any findings?
Something stinks here...
8/20/2016 07:41:00 AM
If a sgt. asked a PO to change a report or TRR that would be used against him too.
I am a citizen who has watched the video and read the report online. I am unable to see what was covered up in the police report. I see the man open a knife and continue moving quickly in the direction of a police car. I see him wave the knife. I see him walking on an angle, briefly turn with the knife raised, then he is shot. I understand there are those that say 16 shots is excessive. The report says he was trying to get up. Officers say he was trying to get up. I see the man moving on the ground. Maybe he was trying to get up, maybe he was recoiling from being hit by the shots. At the time who can say. So how is anything covered up. He was a threat to life, if not stopped he could have seriously injured or killed a person. He could have submitted to arrest. I fully support the officers.
It was clear to me the officer was charged by Alvarez to avoid riots. Protests will still allowed to occur with participants allowed to violate laws. Now a officer charged with murder and others up for firing for putting themselves in harms way to stop a criminal. It is not right.
When is your union and for that matter yourselves going to stand up to this. The African-American population in this city is killing each other right and left. The elected officials are lining their and their friends pockets. Police officers are rightfully cautious about doing the job. Years of lawsuits that are not fought but paid out, now this. Start marching yourselves or go on strike. Good Luck.
This really upsets me. It's something I've been saying about clueless shaky incompetent bosses rushing things along.
Who signs off on Anything that's has not complete. Think they'll sign off on an empty IPRA investigator report?
That empty Narrative was pushed through because of an Exempt, somewhere up the chain, wanting to get out early.
"Don't worry about it, we'll do a Supp later".
Many phases of the investigation went well, but nit picked by DOJ/IPRA to make the case of Its a Police Problem.
But stupidity prevailed on many levels but discipline should have started on the Top.
The new Appointed Merit Gold Stars will be no better, only worse on the blue shirt.
So start waking up all over again and forget the police work you were sworn to perform.
This was Rahm and his handpicked Gold Stars that hushed this incident, only Rahm remains.
Many have been warned long ago about cameras, comments and pushing the limits of arrests and the follow up investigations.
What has happened here is that all those involved got the Rahm Emanuel DOJ Shaft up the ass because they did not heed common sense.
Hard-Chargers hindsight will be clear for awhile, maybe.
So I ask...Was that assignment worth the CB# or a 19P?
What is so difficult about staying out of ghetto affairs?
So when the next call comes of a person with a gun, a person with a bat, a robbery in progress, etc. I am sure you will be going lights and siren and with a go get em attitude right? The department has our back. Now go get em!
This is it folks. This is it. This is the final nail in the coffin. This is the end of proactive policing as we know it. No right thinking officer will go the extra mile, a street stop, a field interview, etc.
Fly on the Wall: I have said on numerous occasions that all of this is coming from Rahm. The Superintendent and the Head of IPRA are following orders from Rahm and the Corporation Council. Anyone should have seen this when Rahm on Wednesday stated that he is backing anything that the Superintendent does regarding this incident. Of course he is backing the actions of the Superintendent because he ordered him to do it. Rumor has it that IPRA and the Corp Council are looking into several additional shootings? This is not an end of it by any means. What really is sad in the McDonald Shooting, there were mistakes made by IG investigators. The Investigators did not follow department policy and State Law involving the conduct of interviewing PO's involved in disciplinary actions. The Attorney for Vandyke should look into how the IG's Investigators conducted their interviews of the Officers. Also, regarding the Lieutenant's test: Nothing is going to happen. Repeat, nothing is going to happen. What the IG Office is going to say is that they can not find any wrong doing on anyone part. They are going to say that the allegations are nothing more that innuendo and rumors. The only way that the IG's Office is going to find that there was cheating is one of the Lieutenants has to come forward and admit to having the questions or answers. That, boys and girls, is not going to happen.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It is paramount to Rahm that JVD be convicted. What a shitstorm if he walks.
8/20/2016 01:18:00 AM
This is now the best thing that could happen to JVD. The witnesses against him are all under criminal investigation by a special prosecutor. The witnesses will all have a right to invoke their 5th Amendment rights. Gook luck to the Kane County DA in putting on this case. Get ready rahm it is shit show time in your city.
Word in 8 is they were all given the chance to change their stories. The one female officer changed her story and she was not stripped. If this is REALLY the case-why isn't she being punished for lying on police documents? All this city wanted was at least one officer on scene to change their story so when the court date comes around they can have an officer testify against vd.
Sgts don't approve trr's. They just review them for completeness. The WOL approves them.
#ATTENTION MEDIA.. Please tell us all that you are all not so naive to believe the narrative being given to you by city hall, specifically Rahm.. If so you believe that this incident occurred without any oversight. Do you truly believe that the arguably biggest micro-manager / power hungry person (Rahm) ever allowed a incident like this to occur and never reviewed it? Do you honestly believe that Rahm would authorize and request that a city who by Rahms own admission is in financial crisis pay out $5,000,000.00 to anyone without seeing all the facts immediately? This does not include the amount of money that Rahm authorized the city to pay out in legal fees to keep this video private. You would have to be completely ignorant and lack all common sense to believe that a person with a personality such as the one Rahm has, would go to these lengths to secure and protect this incident by paying out a large sum of money, without even any civil litigation even being filed. Then the most believable part of the whole story... Rahm never saw the video! REALLY? I have observed members of the media conduct investigations to find some of the most ridiculous truths in my time, the fact that everyone is afraid to look deeper in to this absolutely leaves us dumbfounded. #UNFUCKINBELIEVABLE!
Special Ed Johnson. DO YOU HAVE INTEGRITY? We will see what kind of leader you are. You are fast to strpp officers, but very SLOW with the LIEUTENANTS exam. What are you going to do with the CHEATERS? How do you expect your officer to follow you? Leaders lead by example. Show us.
Balticago !
C. If the most serious use of force requires an investigation by an On-Call Incident Commander (OCIC), then the findings of all Tactical Response Reports resulting from the use of force by any member in that instance will be the responsibility of that OCIC.
Anonymous said...
The poster is incorrect about forfeited CU time once you are separated. Those are your hours and will payed out to them.
8/20/2016 12:41:00 AM
Actually you are wrong, if you are fired you forfeit your comp time. Call the FOP you may learn something. By the way it's paid not payed. Now go get more hair gel and a trimmer for your beard, new guy.
Do you want to know why Gene Roy was promoted to Chief of Detectives a few months before he had to mandatorily retire? So did I so I checked. As long as you spend just one day in your new higher pay rank, your pension is paid on that higher pay scale.
Once you reach your exempt rank, you don't have to spend three years there to get your pension at the higher rate. Just one day and you can screw the rest of us for the rest of your life. Nice.
Don't do a dam thing on this job. Answer your calls, give them their report to make to good citizen happy, back each other up and STAY FETAL.
since the AG said that the private emails and phones of the cop's can be searched as part of this investigation, will the exempts who recently required, and Rahm have to turn over theirs? We all know Rahm covered this up to win an election.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Get the f@&k out of here....I love how you always got twenty chiefs telling one Indian what to do and in the end it's always the Indian stuck holding the bag
8/20/2016 04:27:00 AM
I was just in a situation, nothing of this magnitude, and the boss was asking me why did you do this or that. I say such and such (another boss) told me to do it. He literally came to me and stopped me one day and said do this and that. First boss says I didn't tell you to do x, y, z..who is your immediate? I say you are but what do you want me to do when I get random orders that I'm supposed to follow coming from different bosses, tell them no? And then I learned...yep, until it's cleared with my supervisor..no. Just like in the military, don't detail/assign/or take any of my bodies without my permission. Real easy concept. Getting in trouble for following a supervisor's guidance is one thing I never recall experiencing before this job.
Will the Mayor's Chief Legal Stooge Steve Patton, ESQ, personally try the separation cases at police board and show his idiot subordinates and defense counsel how a real trial attorney get it done ?
. I could see the anguish and disgust on the faces of the majority of officers the day after this decision was announced.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It is paramount to Rahm that JVD be convicted. What a shitstorm if he walks.
8/20/2016 01:18:00 AM
He's walking. No way in hell they'll get him convicted of 1st degree murder.
The only chance they'd have of getting a conviction would be if Rahm-the snake and Eddie-the Axe Man were the ones making that determination.
all discretionary work STOPS NOW!!
if the coppers on the Rahm detail have any honor, resign and go back to the watch immediately--won't happen as they are great at fellation
Is this the very same IG that is prohibited from investigating any wrong doing by the 50 alderthieves and the mayor? Well that seems fair. Screw us.. No screw you. Improve on your case writing skills. Make Willie Ware proud.
Look at pages 22-23 of the Aug. 2016 newsletter. It’s another way Dean is trying to scam the members. Most members, if they look at his self-promoting rag, would flip past these pages. This is important stuff. At the next General Meeting, on 20 Sep, the members will vote on proposed changes in our By-Laws. These changes are the sections in bold on pages 22 and 23. One of the proposed changes is at the bottom of page 22:
Any Board of Director in order to be eligible for a monthly stipend must attend and address a minimum of two (2) roll calls (other than the Member’s own unit of assignment), or other Membership event only after receiving the pre-approval of the Lodge President as well as the Lodge First Vice-President: or forfeit of the monthly stipend per each of the two roll call or other Membership events not attend.
Does everyone remember that when Dean was campaigning he promised that all roll calls would be addressed by elected members? At first glance it would appear that this proposed By-Law change would finally address that issue. But look at it carefully. “Other Membership event” does not mean your roll call. It means that when one of the many retirees who runs our union goes to retiree lunches near his home, he gets paid. He won’t be coming to a roll call near you to answer your questions or tell you how the FOP is helping you.
Then there is this part, “after receiving the pre-approval of the Lodge President as well as the Lodge First Vice-President: or forfeit of the monthly stipend per each of the two roll call or other Membership events not attend.” Aside from being really badly written, this shows Dean’s evil genius. Let’s say that there is an elected trustee, one of the few who is not retired, and he lives and works on the north side. He says to Dean and Ray, “This month I would like to address roll calls in 24 and 19, since those districts are easy for me to get to“. Let’s say that Dean doesn’t like this guy because this guy has challenged Dean on issues. Dean says “no”. Ray obligingly shakes his head, as Ray always does. Dean tells the P.O. that if he wants his monthly stipend, he must address roll calls in 22 and 25.
See how this will work out?
Look at the other proposed By-Law changes. They are unexplained. But they are worth understanding.
If officers who are doing VRI during the "FOP Unity" get beefs or jammed up, will our dues be paying for their defense? It's voluntary work and the Dept should be paying for their defenses.
Since when is the IG in charge of investigation the CPD and/or recommending discipline or termination?
These guys are going to need help immediately. The city stops their pay and their health insurance the day they are placed in no pay status which will be as soon as next week. Not many of us have more than a month of two of savings to cover an immediate loss of income. Remember, this could be any of us.
It is paramount to Rahm that JVD be convicted. What a shitstorm if he walks.
Fucked thing about it is JVD walks, several other coppers are still fired,resigned,or retired because of this incident
Does anyone think that Rahm knew about the lieutenant cheating scandal that is why he hand picked Johnson and disregarded the other candidates. Rahm tells Johnson "I know you didn't apply for the job but fuck you either you do as I say or you and all your cheating lieutenants will be fired".
8/19/2016 02:43:00 AM
No. I don't believe Rahm is that smart, but it certainly worked out for him that way, didn't it?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: zone 1 017 went up for grabs tonight
That's so cute. 017 went up for grabs, lol. Go to a west or south side district, son. You'll see "go up for grabs"
Publish the date when Rham saw the Lequan video and who was there..
If you are separated, you lose all the accrued CU time. So the misinformed individual who stated that you get paid out for your comp time is INCORRECT. This situation is so very very disgusting. How do u cover up a video recorded incident. It's your perception of what u observed at the time of this incident. The slightest movement can be thought to be a movement towards you, or any officer on that scene. And then charged criminally.? Absolutely ridiculous.
From DNA INFO:
Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s top cop Thursday used his new position on the other side of City Hall’s “Chinese Wall” to spare the job of a police officer who Inspector General Joe Ferguson determined should be fired for lying about what occurred the night Officer Jason Van Dyke shot and killed Laquan McDonald.
And the mayor quickly emailed his approval.
Anonymous says:
Curious people want to know....who is the clout?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not sure how the field Sgt is guilty of anything? He just approves a case report that says "see detectives supp" with no narrative. And reviews NOT approves the Trr or makes any findings?
Something stinks here...
That's why he'll get his job back and possibly win the ghetto lottery as well. Hang in there Sgt.
One boss has got to tell the truth, and save these young kids, who were only doing what they were told to do by the dicks. This is the way these scenes were always handled, and Johnson knows it. How many times has he done it. I would rather retire, than throw the innocent under the bus. Gotta be able to look at yourself in the mirror every morning.
Wait the second report isn't out that will be out in a week or so . The CPD will not look the same
""" It's important that we stick together and keep this story alive so that we will not continue to be used as pawns in Rahm's sick game of chess."""
Sadly if theres one thing I can garuntee is that we wont "stick together" and we most certainly are nothing but pawns. This entire thing makes me want to retire today.
Like 703am, I too have been stripped for 2 years, sent to 376, then 2 days at police board. Also won unanimously. Spent the first 6 months not knowing why I was even stripped. Finally got allegations and things worked out eventually. Got star and 50,000 check from city cause ipra had the wrong guy as "victim" said on stand which I found he had been telling ipra all along. But did it work out? Had a good reputation that was tarnished with stripping. Gained 40 pounds. Was depressed then angry. And for what? Turns out ipra thought I was part of the code of silence covering for another PO. Joke. The little guy gets screwed. And now with the board, the police board are appointed by rahm. You think the cops have a chance? Reach out to these cops. Keep them positive. They will win eventually but it's a painful couple years. Transparency is a one way street in chicago. Rahm can hide videos. Rahm kid can get mugged buying weed. No! I didn't see video! My son was talking college! Media eats it up. Eddie, you lapdog. Bow before your master like a slave. And 008 cops, you need anything, LT dowd at callback is awesome. You need any advice, just ask. She has my # and knows it can be given to anyone who has questions bout the process. Been there. Hang in there. Karma a bitch
its disgusting!!!
lets all make sure Rahm is held accountable
Rahm and his aldermen were in volved in a cover up. They should be charged.
Officers, stop calling the area from your cellphone to make notifications. Make the field lieutenant or Sergeant bring the Department Cellphone to the scene to make notifications. And turn off your cell phone while you are on duty. You can live without it for 8 hours.
A KMA Detective.
Danndy deano you are a POS.
How is it that exempts walk out the door retired in good standing as the news breaks, while everyone else has to jump through paper work hoops to retire in good standing. It takes, 2-4 weeks to get the paperwork correct to the department's satisfaction. All the exempts should be loosing their pensions.
Reactive only. No proactive policing.
If you are under 35 yoa get off this department!!
Stay featal.
I hope all you pro active finally get the message STAY FETAL
Ex-Superintendent McCarthy, in an interview with John Kass of the Tribune had this to say;
"You need legitimate government to have a legitimate police department. And I'm not quite sure anybody believes we have that in the city of Chicago."
Love him or hate him, he hit the nail on the head with this statement. Wouldn't it be fun if he was a mole for the feds?
Garry can say anything now and it will not change the fact that he too was being controlled by Rahm. He kissed plenty of Rahm's ass to keep his job. He knew we were way under staffed and still agreed with the mayor that we had plenty of police officers to effectively police the streets. It's too late for Garry to speak up now. Garry is still an arrogant jackass.
It has always been two sets of rules. The exempts and everyone else is expendable.
Look at those coppers on 4 getting jammed up for shooting into a vehicle when the G.O. reads no shooting into vehicles if the the vehicle is the only use of force, ok i get it. So now you are going to throw the book at those officers in 4....BUT The commander of 10 Valadez and his driver Reyes shot into a fleeing vehicle. The video was released and the vehicle did not attempt to run them over, it sped away and they unloaded into it and the occupant died as a result. So im guessing they are in trouble too...wait a minute no they aren't she got a merit promotion to sgt. and she is off in 12 pretending to be a sgt. The commander got an award. So how does that work????????????
keep working hard out there, all you guys that think they will get support from the brass...
1). Never drive over the speed limit unless a 10-1. Take note from the Chicago Fire Department.
2). Never stick your neck out. Just go to your assignment and handle best you can.
3). Never made an arrest unless it's on signed complaints by a citizen. Just be the middle man. Let the citizen be on the hook if things aren't justified.
4). Don't be in others business. Back units up only when they ask. Mind your business.
5). Don't get in a foot chase. If you get hurt, you maybe hurt for life and the medical section and department will only jack you around.
6). Good activity; bus checks, parkers and shoplifters.
7). Document the truth and articulate any bosses who starts to tell you how he wants it handled even if you agree. Later you can always fall back to he was the one who wanted it handled like that.
8). Always releave your self of responsibility. Make it an art and get the boss to take over. That's what he gets paid more money for.
9). Never talk with cameras on person. Leave them in the car at lunch. Never talk in car it's all recorded.
10). Always volunteer for; hospital detail, road closing on fires, guarding crime scenes, helping to look for missings, any where roads are needed to block street, and sitting on a victims or other people your just sitting with.
11). Always take lunch, and breaks. Everyday get car fuled. Day and or afternoon guys get car washed everyday. Always volunteer for desk assignments for food runs and dropping of mail.
12). When getting random drug test always take your time. Also when qualifying with your firearm you are allowed to go home and take a shower and change clothing unless at the end of your shift.
These 12 points are to be followed best as possible. If they are followed throughout you career you will increase you odds of making it and retiring the way you came on. This is only a job and the powers at be made it this way. I wish all good luck and happy retirement.
23 year Sgt. Who is leaving this city in retirement.
Don't become the next casualty in the war against police.
How can anyone with any self respect do anything anymore? 6 years left and I tapped out years ago.
I have seen far too many sergeants approve reports without thoroughly reading through them. NOTHING should be signed by ANY supervisor that hasn't been thoroughly checked out. It's just common sense.
Oh, wait...
I hate to para-phrase the great Nancy Pelosi but, 'We have to vote (APPROVE IT) for it before we read it and find out what's in it.
Sgts. review of TRR is to ensure "The legibility and completeness of the report." Qoute is from TRR form.
When u go into no pay status you start using any cu, vdays, PD or bfd until they run out.
If you are fired before all that runs out you lose it.
Ferguson has been told by Rahm to follow the rules of Rahm or he will be gone like Faisal khan. Ferguson has never investigated any of the complaints against Rahm or his crooked aldermen like Reilly, Moore, Ervin, and the entire black and Latino caucus. The pay to play donations are out of control from the bars and developers. Ferguson is an outfit wannabe who actually has threatened people for making complaints. I know this because I am one of them.
GREAT QUESTION
Not sure how the field Sgt is guilty of anything? He just approves a case report that says "see detectives supp" with no narrative. And reviews NOT approves the Trr or makes any findings?
Something stinks here...
Hate to tell you this but that narrative was always wrong!
You see the 1st officer on scene (paper car) is certified by the state of Illinois. The officer must investigate and document what occurred in the case report. The officer is actually on scene and must determine what crime occurred/witnesses/evidence and victims.
Do you actually think putting in a narrative see Detectives reports is legitimate?
The patrol officer never even signs the Detectives reports so how would he know if something is wrong or missing? Or the Detective throws the case(koschman).
If you are the paper car you are DA MAN! laziness will get you stripped. And tell your white shirt that a narrative goes on the case report not SEE detectives report.
AND if ordered to do so? get your partner and write what they ordered you to do. Don't be a DUMBASS.
For those who don't think your comp time can be taken away check this out. It's from the current contract.
Section 26.5 — Payment of Time
An Officer covered by this Agreement who resigns, retires or dies, shall be entitled to and shall receive all unused compensatory time accumulated by said Officer including furlough time, baby furlough days, personal days, and holidays. An Officer who is separated for cause shall be entitled to receive only unused compensatory time accumulated as a result of earned overtime for hours worked in excess of 171 per 28-day period.
This has been taken to arbitration before and we lost. Basically the above says that if you work 8 hours overtime you get 4 hours added for a total for 12. If you get fired you forfeit the extra 4. But guess what ? When you take a day off it comes from the original 8 you earned. So you really have much less of your own time on the books then you think.
If you have less than ten years on, get out of CPD now! Go get on a department outside of cook county (preferably out of Illinois). 12 years ago, I took that advice from an old timer that worked with my dad & uncle. Never been happier. Chicago is a dog s$*! cesspool. No higher ups will be messed with. Only guys at the bottom.
Off Topic,
Did you know the CPD has Eleven (11) different violence reduction efforts?
"John S. Hollywood, one of the report’s authors, explained to The Verge that there were as many as 11 different violence reduction initiatives going on within CPD at the time the list was being rolled out. "The list just got lost," he said."
"Overall, the observations and interview respondents indicate there was no practical direction about what to do with individuals on the SSL, little executive or administrative attention paid to the pilot, and little to no follow-up with district commanders."
"This suggests that the department’s rank and file were left perplexed by the data in front of them—probably because, as the Verge points out, no fewer than 11 other violence reduction programs were in play at the time. As a result, officers went about the business of everyday police work. And when no one from upper management looked in to see if anyone was using the system’s recommendations, they fell by the wayside."
To me, this sounds like a completely disfunctional leadership team that has absolutely no idea how to manage people, organizations or goals. Eleven!!! different programs. No Direction. No Training. No Leadership. No Accountability.
Can you even name three of the other ten?
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/602215/chicagos-experiment-in-predictive-policing-isnt-working/?set=602206
http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/19/12552384/chicago-heat-list-tool-failed-rand-test
May God Watch Over Chicago. Your government obviously can't and won't.
Anonymous said...
How do Lie-Tenant Fenner and Eddie-the Axe Man sleep at night?
How can they look theirselves in the mirror?
Just remember. Karma can be a BITCH!
8/20/2016 03:13:00 AM
Wait until you see who gets that cush C.O. spot at midway! Now that samm has been over-promoted to commander of 701 mass transit they don't give a shit watch and see! O'Donnell are you kidding me? The medical express kid? who is his wack?
All TRR's are approved by a Lt. Who was the LT? Why was he/she not fired?
All a Sgt does with regard to a TRR is review it not approve it. It's approved by a LT along with a narrative explaining his/her concurrence or not with the force used.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Amazing that reporters never ask the questions that might show how corrupt the entire organization actually is - the watchers are the ones steering the ship with one hand while they loot the place with the other. They cover for the clouted and get 'promoted' so they can keep covering for the future clouted.
It's the 'Circle of the Connected Life.'"
Ex-Superintendent McCarthy, in an interview with John Kass of the Tribune had this to say;
"You need legitimate government to have a legitimate police department. And I'm not quite sure anybody believes we have that in the city of Chicago."
Love him or hate him, he hit the nail on the head with this statement. Wouldn't it be fun if he was a mole for the feds?
rb
8/20/2016 01:25:00 AM
Yes, the guy who illegally intervened after his daughter's citation (and got himself and one of his other wives arrested and convicted in the process), yes, he's the guy who should be pointing out corruption.
And, did I read that other post correctly? Garrry's pouting and has hired the latest wife's connected friends to sue the City for improperly firing him? Incompetent crybaby! But let's revere every word he now says to the media? No, thank you.
This I N one sense is similar to the movie," Service" which the police officer, Service, said if one truly wants to fight corruption, one must go all the way to the top. That never happens, too easy to use just a few as a scapegoat. Not saying these coppers, etc did wrong. I think all coppers do their best, these are tough circumstances and tough times. We have all made mistakes, and had the opportunity to learn from them. That does not seem to happen anymore. No chance to learn, just fire them, and that's wrong.
But even Lanier, despite her skills at policing and community engagement, could not do very much about a young person who is motivated to shoot someone and has the means to do it. Police chiefs aren’t mind readers. They can’t be in all places at all times. Their officers can conduct searches and arrest suspects after an attack occurs, as happened in the McDonald’s shooting, and hopefully get a conviction.
But when it comes to turning our youth away from robbing, stealing, shooting and stabbing one another, that burden doesn’t belong on the shoulders of a police chief or any cop.
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/08/20/the-stark-reality-that-community-policing-isnt-going-to-solve-all-that-much/
This is utterly insane. Cops getting jammed up and worse for doing their jobs. All you assholes still chasing numbers and "activity" sicken me. Everybody should be sitting on their hands at work now
If U aren't vested in this gig these days, just bounce. Now you're gambling everytime U go to work in The Joy Division.
Somehow flying under the radar is the goal now. That's all great, but till Ur 50 or 55? That's a bit unrealistic.
What will you do when Re- Run orders Rodge, Dewayne, and Shirley to strip Ur ass? The strip more than likely will come when Ur married with kids as well.
Be safe, Be smart
God Bless
Will there be a GoFundMe or some kind of benefit for these officers, detectives, sgts
?
""Something stinks here...""
Yathink? Gotta get this out from under the rug and let the public forget before Hillary gets in and it all becomes to big a Liability for Rahm to get a spot in DC.
Who knows what Special Ed has been promised? Probably an eventual big spot in DC. Escalante goes quietly and gets a sweet gig in some college. The Deputies and up will all be taken care of when the heats off.
Any of you blue shirted crime fighters having a problem seeing how this works? If you are then you deserve to be the next asshole on the chopping block.
Police work will land you in an empty jail cell. Don't cry me a river when it happens. And don't count on me to buy a fund raising ticket, even a 10-1 fund raiser for goofs. They are telling everyone loud and clean don't chase. Only a fool does foot chases. My partner messed up his knees in a foot chase only to get messed around by the medical section. It's unfortunate some will have to learn the hard way. By all means break the rules and do police work if you must.
Rahm is such an egomaniac that he thinks railroading these poor coppers, and his incessant pandering to "the community" will undo his damaged goods political status.
In Rahm's eyes he couldn't give two shits about any of us ... to him it's all about how he looks politically, what "the community" thinks, and if Rahm thinks he can get elected again.
Rahm:
Karma's a motherfucker and I hope you burn in Hell!
can I have an event number for sitting on my hands?
Dear Ed, have fun explaining to Rahm when ANOVs, movers, parkers--the revenue producers, fall to nil.
We aren't doing anything, anymore for you or the rat bastard on the 5th floor
If you didn't write it do not sign it .
Anonymous Anonymous said...
A cleansing, from the top on down, is needed. How much more can we take.
8/20/2016 09:37:00 AM
Ah. An enema so to speak.
Since we're cleansing from top to bottom I'd love to shit Rahm out.
The poster is incorrect about forfeited CU time once you are separated. Those are your hours and will payed out to them.
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You might want to read section 26.5 of PO contract and 26.5 of Sgt contract termination for just cause only requires payment. Of wages in excess of 171 in 28 day period!!!! Be smart if you have a lot of time make wise decision. I'm sure if you hired a good labor lawyer he could get your hours but it will go to pay the lawyer anyway....
It is a totally political organization, the CPD has nothing to do with law enforcement anymore. The apparatchiks have been put in charge ( vast majority are merit hacks and that is why they are there). I saw the video and the shooting stunk but to hang people out to dry when they were not even there? They do this in most totalitarians nations and the American Empire is heavily leaning that way.
CU was earned by the accused and they cannot be required to forfeit same if terminated
The City told Burge after they fired him they would not pay him for his accumulated time due. Burge's attorney, Kunkle, told the City he was filing a lawsuit demanding Burge receive compensation for what he had earned and the City caved and paid him.
Precedent was set with this case as an example.
No chasing, report writing, emailing, social media commenting, emailing, texting, smart phoning, lojacking, on staring, and find my iphoning. Go back to paper Daily Bulletin, notifying by unit phone and pax, inventory book, revolvers and all paper reports. Act like the stats can't be accessed and you don't have any knowledge. If you do all of this you might have a long healthy career, of police work.
"sorry dispatch,unable to respond to scene,have car trouble"
Do you guys still have a squad assigned to the Bishops house?
The Sgt. really got a shitty deal. He just approved reports which did not require him to conduct formal investigation, the only requirement was to make sure that the elements of the officer's' accounts were present, notifications were made and extra copies were forwarded. He was not required to conduct a formal investigation at the time of the report. The camera footage should've been confiscated and stored away as evidence for further investigation only to be uploaded by PSIT or IAD. No one should've been allowed to view or tampered with the camera footages on the night of the incident, not even the Sgt. Are you guy saying that the Sgt. should've viewed all four in-car camera footages before approving the officer's report? Guess what EJ sgt's approve reports based on the involved officers accounts because many times they are not on scene at the time of the incident. The que is flooded with reports waiting to be approved by an available sgt's. who was not present at the time of the incident. ...and guess what EJ Sgt's from the 1st watch approve report from the 3rd watch all day long. Someone has to do it! I guess supervisors can't approve reports until they have viewed all in-car camera footages which may take some time. Better yet I guess sgt's should wait 2 1/2 years until the formal investigation is over before approve officers initial case reports.
Somewhere on a tropical golf course Barry is slapping his knee and laughing.
Rahm and Daily are getting the Police Department they want by promoting incompetent Superintendents.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Amazing that reporters never ask the questions that might show how corrupt the entire organization actually is - the watchers are the ones steering the ship with one hand while they loot the place with the other. They cover for the clouted and get 'promoted' so they can keep covering for the future clouted.
It's the 'Circle of the Connected Life.'"
Ex-Superintendent McCarthy, in an interview with John Kass of the Tribune had this to say;
"You need legitimate government to have a legitimate police department. And I'm not quite sure anybody believes we have that in the city of Chicago."
Love him or hate him, he hit the nail on the head with this statement. Wouldn't it be fun if he was a mole for the feds?
rb
8/20/2016 01:25:00 AM
Yes, the guy who illegally intervened after his daughter's citation (and got himself and one of his other wives arrested and convicted in the process), yes, he's the guy who should be pointing out corruption.
And, did I read that other post correctly? Garrry's pouting and has hired the latest wife's connected friends to sue the City for improperly firing him? Incompetent crybaby! But let's revere every word he now says to the media? No, thank you.
8/20/2016 03:54:00 PM
Maybe he's suing the City to get them to pay him for the dozen or so lawsuits he's being deposed for. Rahm better tread lightly. Hate him or not, McCarthy could be the one guy able to deal the death blow to Rahm's political career.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If you didn't write it do not sign it .
8/20/2016 05:19:00 PM
Signed,
Someone who isn't a supervisor and who doesn't know what they do.
Dear Ed, have fun explaining to Rahm when ANOVs, movers, parkers--the revenue producers, fall to nil.
We aren't doing anything, anymore for you or the rat bastard on the 5th floor
Unfortunately that's bullshit. Stroke coppers afraid of losing their spots will continue to give the
city numbers.
For all of u that dont know the officers! First get the story than Monday quarter back any of them just so everyone knows some of these officers didn't even write a report . It's all about what they observed that night . Nothing to lie about or cover anything up. Please pray for these officers and there families if u personally know them reach out to them . many of us that know these officers they are hardworking officers , that wore that uniform with pride an integrity. Now they are being sacrifice thanks to your wonderful mayor !!!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Do you want to know why Gene Roy was promoted to Chief of Detectives a few months before he had to mandatorily retire? So did I so I checked. As long as you spend just one day in your new higher pay rank, your pension is paid on that higher pay scale.
Once you reach your exempt rank, you don't have to spend three years there to get your pension at the higher rate. Just one day and you can screw the rest of us for the rest of your life. Nice.
8/20/2016 11:36:00 AM
I don't believe this. Not a figure of speech. I really don't believe this is true.
Could someone from the pension board weigh in?
As a supervisor if I am.ordered to do something I do not agree with I notate thatin the report. Shame on that Sergeant if he did not do it. He also had the option of disobeying the direct order, he would have faired much better.
Anonymous said...
All TRR's are approved by a Lt. Who was the LT? Why was he/she not fired?
8/20/2016 03:51:00 PM
Capt or higher for weapons discharge incident genius
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Scc I hope you or someone posts the names of all the greedy assholes working the OT initiative it's ridiculous we have no Fukn unity because of assholes like them especially in a time when we need to stick together so to you guys that signed up heres a big FUCK YOU!!!!
8/20/2016 08:52:00 AM
Key word being "WORKED". Past tense. AFTER it is verified they did, indeed, work it.
Funny ... you don't see any lawyers of conscience ( the Ralph Nader types ) stepping up to handle any of these cases Pro Bono , to , y'know try to make sure there's at least " some " integrity left in the world - ( yet people keep complaining about " how bad things are getting " )... well guess what : It's your fault too .
Anonymous said...
Do you want to know why Gene Roy was promoted to Chief of Detectives a few months before he had to mandatorily retire? So did I so I checked. As long as you spend just one day in your new higher pay rank, your pension is paid on that higher pay scale.
Once you reach your exempt rank, you don't have to spend three years there to get your pension at the higher rate. Just one day and you can screw the rest of us for the rest of your life. Nice.
8/20/2016 11:36:00 AM
Uhhh ... not exactly. Pension is based on your best four of your last 10 years. So, for example if Roy was a commander for 5 years, a deputy chief for two years and a chief for one year, he's going to get his pension based on 1 year of commander's pay, 2 years at deputy chief's pay and 1 year at chief's pay. That's the best 4 of his last 10 years. He will not solely get a chief's pension. But ... it still will be a GREAT pension!
You could be seriously injured or lose your life tomorrow on the most routine interaction.
PLEASE do the most iminimally passable job possible. We who are older cannot fathom what they have done to this job. Getting fired will in time turn out to be a blessing-this insanity will destroy your mental health.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Fly on the Wall: I have said on numerous occasions that all of this is coming from Rahm. The Superintendent and the Head of IPRA are following orders from Rahm and the Corporation Council. Anyone should have seen this when Rahm on Wednesday stated that he is backing anything that the Superintendent does regarding this incident. Of course he is backing the actions of the Superintendent because he ordered him to do it. Rumor has it that IPRA and the Corp Council are looking into several additional shootings? This is not an end of it by any means. What really is sad in the McDonald Shooting, there were mistakes made by IG investigators. The Investigators did not follow department policy and State Law involving the conduct of interviewing PO's involved in disciplinary actions. The Attorney for Vandyke should look into how the IG's Investigators conducted their interviews of the Officers. Also, regarding the Lieutenant's test: Nothing is going to happen. Repeat, nothing is going to happen. What the IG Office is going to say is that they can not find any wrong doing on anyone part. They are going to say that the allegations are nothing more that innuendo and rumors. The only way that the IG's Office is going to find that there was cheating is one of the Lieutenants has to come forward and admit to having the questions or answers. That, boys and girls, is not going to happen.
8/20/2016 10:45:00 AM
Well if the IG checks Eddie's squeeze, Lie-Tenant Fenner's, department email they'll see correspondence between Lie-Tenant Fenner and NOBLE Gene Wiliiams where Lt. Exam answers were discussed and given PRIOR to the test being given.
Yet Eddie has the balls to grandstand and try and fire coppers for Rule 14 violations?!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The poster is incorrect about forfeited CU time once you are separated. Those are your hours and will payed out to them.
8/20/2016 12:41:00 AM
You might want to educate yourself a bit, if you are fired any comp time you have on the books is wiped out. You get nothing! The lack of knowledge of how this job works is frightening. Just keep listening to rahm and follow his orders and see where it gets you.
Really? I dont know shit. Hmm. Were you standing next to Bill Cozzi when he got his check for his thousands of hours? Yep, the same Bill Cozzi who went to PRISON and was fired from the job. If you don't believe me call him and ask him. NEXT!!
*This is just a rumor again* SCC, this is unf#ckingbelievable how this is unraveling in just days. CPD gets a message from the OIG saying to fire Gene Roy. CPD releases a statement announcing Gene's "age-related" retirement that same day. Too little too late. Last week Gene Roy was interrogated by the OIG. Friday Dan Herbert got an order from a judge to turn over the transcript of the interview. Roy was given a copy of a list of attendees at the post-shooting briefing after this incident and asked what each attendee said. It was an easy answer. Each attendee was asked by the chief of patrol and each attendee said "This shooting is justified." Eddie Johnson was an attendee. I REPEAT: EDDIE IS ON RECORD AS SAYING THIS WAS A JUSTIFIED SHOOTING. How the F%CK does this guy fire officers who did nothing more than appear on scene to appease the mayor? He thought this would save his girlfriend? F&CK YOU EDDIE. YOU ARE DONE. Hope you had a good time with the shortest term of a superintendent ever you dipsh*t. *This is just a rumor again*
Jesus H. Christ! Retired and damn glad of it!
An Officer who is separated for cause shall be entitled to receive only unused compensatory time accumulated as a result of earned overtime for hours worked in excess of 171 per 28-day period.
This means you can only get back your FSLA time which is almost never earned nowadays. So yes, you do lose your accrued CU when the police board rules against you. READ THE CONTRACT.
Is it ture that Special Ed has given up his take home car and now is driven around in a Yellow short Bus?
Anonymous said...
Not sure how the field Sgt is guilty of anything? He just approves a case report that says "see detectives supp" with no narrative. And reviews NOT approves the Trr or makes any findings?
Something stinks here...
8/20/2016 07:41:00 AM
If a sgt. asked a PO to change a report or TRR that would be used against him too.
Changes happen all the time. If your saying a Sgt. Asked someone to lie. Then yes. - But I've kicked back TRR's for corrections. Etc. According to the stories on here the Sgt was never even asked about it ? Never called to an interview. Never accused of anything til the last minute. That smells.... Also to those who don't know, in a police involved shooting (with hits ) the Street Deputy is responsible for approving the Trr. Without hits or a dog, minor stuff - A Capt approves the Trr. NO ONE UNDER THE RANK OF CAPTIAN IS ALLOWED TO DIRECT AN INVESTIGANTION IN A WEAPONS (firearms) DISCHARGE. So the Lt's handle the maces , takedowns, taser etc.
Also. If Mc N is the fall guy who approved this all and The mayor and Supt. Are all about reform. Why did Supt. Johnson send out a Dept e mail to all PRAISING all his career achievements and thanking him for his service 1 day after he resigned ?
It all stinks ... And how does 1 cop on scene skate? While the partner goes down?
Who still wants to volunteer to help out Special Ed to work Labor Day O/t ?
Anonymous said...
If you didn't write it do not sign it .
8/20/2016 05:19:00 PM
And if some bosshole tries to threaten/bully/brow-beat you
into signing something you didn't write, put his/her name
on the report and a disclaimer...
One of the more well known department "Lawyer-visors"
(Abso-fucking-lutely HATE them!) "ordered" us to make
a change in a case report after it was submitted.
We said no and explained our reasoning.
Lawyer-visor blew a gasket and acted a low-class fool.
We stuck by our answer. The report sat in the queue until >Poof!<
it went somewhere.
We found out that another Copper was ordered to cut another report.
Now of course we got fucked with...
Dancing start times, Lawyer-visor nasty-grams to OEMC that
we be given every clusterfuck assignment that crawled across the board
and all sorts of other silly "punishment" for making a lawyer-visor
look like a fool.
Sometimes you pay a price on this job for making the right call
and holding yourself above the fucked-up people who think that rank
does infer privilege.
Too much aggravation.
It would've been dandy to settle it
man-to-man but lawyer-visors are so
thin-skinned and fragile as to be unable
to take a begged-for ass-beating like
a man and leave things be.
Think for yourselves.
Stop letting these bully-assed,
no common sense having bosses
cook you in the jack-pot.
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