Thursday, August 18, 2016

FOP Steps Up to the Phone

Someone (allegedly) called the FOP Wednesday and got this response:
  • I called FOP today and I was asked, "How was I harmed?" The woman on the phone said that Dean is waiting for a call from Office of Legal Affairs. What a joke! More proof that Dean is in-bed with the Dept.
So from this, we can deduce that your private life can be dragged through the mud, your reputation besmirched, your career dead-ended or worse, and then, after the horse is out of the barn, the FOP step in and protect you from harm.

Um, what? We certainly hope this isn't true.

This was the Tribune on Wednesday:
  • Chicago police officers' emails discussing the Laquan McDonald shooting can't be kept secret even though they were transmitted privately, a state official has decreed in what open-records advocates say is a solid step toward transparency on an issue that has roiled Illinois and reached as high as Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.

    The binding opinion last week by Democratic Attorney General Lisa Madigan follows quickly on a May Cook County Circuit Court ruling that Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel's emails about separate issues aren't automatically exempt from disclosure even though sent on private devices.
That's because Rahm was (allegedly) conducting government business on private devices. So was Hillary. That's a no-no. But back to the subject, what e-mails? Who said there was e-mail? What evidence is there that any e-mails were composed, sent, received at all from this scene? Are there affidavits verifying any of these speculations?

If the investigators want to grab all Department generated e-mail, have at it. It's a government site with government addresses saved on a Department server. As far as we're concerned, it's government property. Same thing with in-car camera videos, same thing with body cameras, same thing with GPS - it's government property and the government is entitled to know where and what their property is doing. So is the taxpayer. We came to terms with that long ago. So did the Courts.

This is nothing more than an attempt by CNN among others to locate a "conspiracy" based on no evidence. Fishing.

But a private device? Well, you better have a bit more than "It was on the scene." If we tried this, in Court or in an investigative capacity, we'd have been fired years ago.

We've seen a whole bunch of debate going on the comment sections:
  • It's evidence
Evidence of what? If that's your argument, what's to stop the police from confiscating every cell phone on a scene and inventorying it until such time as it can be unlocked and "evidence" downloaded? We'll bet those pesky cameras everyone is pointing at us will show a lot more "evidence" than we get talking to the "no snitching" members of the "community." The clearance rate might actually go up ten or twenty percent. But it's still fishing.
  • Leave it in your locker
A department locker is government property and they're entitled to search it at any time without reason, cause or a warrant. Look it up. There's tons of precedent. And everyone signed a form when you were given a locker in your Unit
  • They're going to get it anyway
Really? You're going to roll over? Even if you don't have anything substantive on the phone, you're just going to surrender your Rights to some asshole boss demanding your phone? What next, DNA sampling of all officers - after all, you might do something evil in the future, right?

Everyone has their limit, and sorry, but this one is ours. We lost our phone, we left it at home, we don't own one, prove it was on scene, etc. We've got a dozen explanations ready to go. If we contacted a lawyer, priest, doctor or spouse, we're pretty sure that all of that is privileged. How can anyone be sure it stays that way?

What is the ACLU's opinion? We can't even speak to or touch a citizen on the streets without jumping through hoops and documenting it, but Lisa Madigan can create policy out of thin air, based on laws written twenty or thirty years ago and the Department is going to try to stick this on the working copper? Let's see the ACLU attorneys argue for the police for once.

The FOP and PBPA should stop reading the Obama playbook and start leading from the front - this is a serious issue and deserves serious attention and action.

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178 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fyi
A few supervisors have just retired/resigned/ or have been asked to resign in the past 24 hours due to McDonald shooting. More to follow...

8/18/2016 12:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looks lie everyone I text message is now my attorney.

8/18/2016 12:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said and my thoughts exactly. Your rights dont end when you put the star on . Gather all phones at a crime scene and see how far you get. This is so ugly on its face. what will it take to get the Police to finally push back ?

8/18/2016 12:29:00 AM  
Anonymous 29 and a day said...

another idea is to have your phone in someone else other than a city employee's name. make sure that person is paying the bill every month from an account with their name.

8/18/2016 12:33:00 AM  
Anonymous IN THE KNOW said...

Going through all this Hell and aggravation, if there is ANYONE who is not going to vote for Trump and get out of this Third World fog we have drifted into, they must be a total moron.

From raising racial tensions to looking at police as if they are criminals with a guilty-first label until proven innocent, "government" has gone wacky.

We need to get back on track. My two cents -----

8/18/2016 12:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of course this will go to court. Depending on how F'd up the lower courts are, maybe to the Supremes. Which will be another reason why you'd want to have Trump's appointments sitting there instead of the Crone's drones.

8/18/2016 12:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't use your phone to contact anyonee in the CPD.

If a call or text or message shows up on anyone's phone from you, they are going to track that fcuking phone down. And if you previously denied having one???

Carry a dumbass retarded throw away duty phone. Use it for anything when on duty. Keep it clean, and tell that asshole with the questionable sense of humor that you will turn his ass in if he even Thinks of sending you any "jokes." Get to be known as that ass that always has to use a payphone or land line. Be known as the klutz that keeps breaking his phone, and that is why you use a cheap phone.

If you have to carry your own personal phone, do not turn it on when in the car and especially not when you are near a crime scene. That phone is for your family only. Not even your old academy buddy should know about it.

8/18/2016 12:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Horrendous decision by Lisa Madigan. Threatening to confiscate personal property. Gestapo tactics?? Our Freedoms and Rights are being taken away in the swipe of a pen....We have given Politicians too many privileges and too much power.

8/18/2016 12:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fourth Amendment, unreasonable searches and seizures

8/18/2016 12:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When you live in a democrat controlled world, the laws and rules of the democrats are supreme. The ends justify the means. If you don't like it, than move to a non-democrat controlled place.

8/18/2016 12:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't give them shit! A boss can NOT just order you to give up your personal cell phone. That's an unlawful order. And if the court wants it, fight it. Make them show cause. DON'T JUST GIVE UP YOUR RIGHTS THAT EASILY. And STAY FETAL!!!!!

8/18/2016 12:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What it will take, and it won't be the unions leading the charge, will be a copper refusing to give up his/her phone, even in the face of refusing a direct order and order of the court/contempt of court, to force a search warrant be issued for the phone. The 5A can be cited and the case with the help of a sharp lawyer will drag the issue out, quit possibly to the USSC. In the meantime the job will be in jeopardy, however if the cop wins the legal battle there would be a strong chance of forcing the department rethink the job action initiated by the department for refusing a direct order and return the lost back pay.

What cop will step up to the plate?

8/18/2016 12:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scary shit!

8/18/2016 01:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've heard phone companies store text, phone records,and pics up to a year after deletion from device? Anyone confirm this?? Same as emails?

8/18/2016 01:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How was I harmed? Read the 4th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

8/18/2016 01:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...



From the Suntimes...

....Then-Police Supt. Garry McCarthy presided over that meeting, with members of his executive staff including then-First Deputy Superintendent Al Wysinger, then-Chief of Detectives John Escalante, then-Deputy Chief David McNaughton, the incident commander on the scene the night of the shooting who abruptly retired earlier this week, and others. Escalante also announced his retirement this week.
The question at the center of Ferguson’s follow-up report is what did the police brass in attendance at that meeting do with the information they saw?
Did they read the police reports that clearly contradicted the video? And if they did, what did they do about it?....
McCarthy moved quickly to strip Van Dyke of his police powers and put him on paid desk duty. He also contacted the Independent Police Review Authority, which launched an investigation.
But the inspector general will ask why the officers who allegedly covered for Van Dyke were not disciplined or, at the very least, stripped of their police powers pending a further investigation.
In December, Mayor Rahm Emanuel apologized for the “systematic breakdown” that culminated in the “totally avoidable” police shooting death of McDonald and acknowledged a “code of silence” in the Chicago Police Department....



Wow... well looks like the “original brass” is gone; has the chickens come home to roost? However, McCarthy did take some action, but not enough. And also, I still say, the McCarthy firing not only back fired in Rahm’s face, but that’s when the crime started to go through the roof and still is... He must have been doing something right. This situation is indefensible, whereas, Paul O’Neal had it coming to him.

8/18/2016 01:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Civil war is coming, my friends. It's what the communist revolutionaries wanted all along. They may be surprised at the end results. They are not prepared. Prepare yourselves for what is to come. Understand how vile they are and prepare. Did you ever think that in your lifetime it would get this bad under ONE socialist administration? And yet, here we are. You had better be prepared. This will get very ugly before it is over.

8/18/2016 01:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I carry three phones, the regular phone, the girlfriend phone and a drop phone.

8/18/2016 02:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I still know people that want to sign up for this job. It's fucking insane. I try to tell them the way but it's like trying to reason with a child. Fuck this department, pathetic "leaders," courts, attorneys and media. I'd say stick a fork in the job, it's done, but they already beat me to it...just replace "fork" with "dick."

In order to uphold the laws of the land, you must forfeit your rights protected by said laws. Wait, what? I think I'm summarizing how it is being a cop.

I am not giving them my password to my emails, ever. If they want, write a warrant and get the shit the hard way. I wish when I worked I could get warrants approved for the shit we are forced to do, I would've had amazing arrests and OT daily. Unfortunately, we had to follow the law and wouldn't dare ask for approval from a judge by saying "I dunno, I figure there might be drugs in the crib so why not?" Could you imagine? Meanwhile the judge says "yeah, no problem. How about their private email accounts as well? Fuck it, I'll throw it in anyways, have fun fishing!"

FOP/legal affairs, corporation counsel - eat a dick. No, have the whole bag of em.

8/18/2016 03:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We can't get phone info from Apple on a terror attack that killed Americans and could prevent a further attack against ISIS but we can take the personal phone from POs on scene with no reasoning??? 1.Not legal.2. not necesaary. and 3. Good bye to back up on any serious calls when you need it because of fear of your job!Watch Commanders are telling officers to stay away, so this is the answer to liberal thinking.

8/18/2016 03:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Say you're heading to Detroit. Sir, you are now in a situation that is worse than Detroit. Think about it.

8/18/2016 03:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All involved with Laquon at HQ at 8AMto be arrested

8/18/2016 03:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Call down state lodge. If they don't help, call national lodge. You need to be ready to fight for your constitutional rights. Lodge 7 is dead.

8/18/2016 04:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anything Dean does is after he checks with his friend Don O'Neill. If Donkeys its okay then Dean will do it. Dean brags in almost every newsletter that he prides himself with getting along with 35th st. He doesn't get along with them, he does what he is told. There is no way that we should give up our personal cellphones and emails without a fight!

8/18/2016 05:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with you whole-heartedly SCC. Since when can you just randomly invade people's privacy?

Simply expressing concern about something or venting to someone could be taken out of context and cause you all kinds of headaches.

I think this is absolutely the worst time in history to be the police. Don't know what it was like in the 60's....but I'd like to know how this climate of anti-police compares to that.

Great job SCC, as usual.

8/18/2016 05:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Dean, doesn't the FOP have an attorney or two on the payroll?
You should be consulting them not Legal Affairs.

8/18/2016 05:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, if they're looking at phone contents, they should start with the SUPERINTENDENT....and if they don't, then somebody better start explaining.

And since when is the AG's opinion binding? FOP should have filed a suit already. WTF is wrong with them?

8/18/2016 05:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And our union just loves the Madigans. We endorse them every time. What a joke.

8/18/2016 06:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then go get the cheater's cell phones too

8/18/2016 06:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would love to get every Aldermans cell phones. See how they are conspiring with. They are government officials 24-7

8/18/2016 06:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop using it for any Dept. business, period.

Leave it in your car during your tour.

Fuck them. Slow walk this job back to 1890.

8/18/2016 07:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the State of Illinois going to violate our civil rights why not go all the way ? They should compel our wives and children to testify against us too

8/18/2016 07:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Deano has been very quiet lately. He is up for election in March. Deano was booed at the north side retirement luncheon while Mike Shields received a standing ovation for getting Sheriff Clark to speak at the engagement.hey Deano what the hell are doing for us.....chirp chirp. Pin drop, feather dropping. Yeah NOTHING!

8/18/2016 07:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get a "911 only" phone to use from the time you leave the house, through work, and then back home. That way if you see or hear something you can fulfill your obligation to take some action. 911 can then transfer your call to anyone that wants notifications.

8/18/2016 07:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If every thing I do is police related now, how come every injury I suffer is not IOD???

8/18/2016 07:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All the cops associated with the van dyke case were stripped this morning

8/18/2016 07:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scc lets talk about something really important tonight... We are 18 days into the month and have 51 homicides. Last August we had 48. We are on pace for over 70 again.

8/18/2016 07:47:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

Tracphone sells an internet capable phone for twenty bucks. Put twenty bucks of minutes on it. Have your actual cell phone forwarded to that number when you are working. I have ten pictures of my little weenee on mine. I would hand it to them with a smile on my face.

8/18/2016 07:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, I'll step up to that plate. Nobody is taking my personal property and depriving me of its use without a search warrant signed by a judge. A supervisor CANNOT give you a direct order to give up your personal property. Listen new kids, CPD supervisors are not Gods even though a lot of them think they are. You do not have to follow any order that is UNLAWFUL, not job related, or would jeopardize your health and or safety unnecessarily.

8/18/2016 07:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anybody that gives these fucks their phones without a warrant is a mental midget. Anyone that opens their phone or gives up their passwords to anything is softer than baby shit.

8/18/2016 07:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe Litttle Lisa can now go after her Father "Don" Mike Madigan by fishing through his emails, texts messages, cell phone calls searching for billions of stolen tax dollars. Maybe a few RICO cases will be born from Lisa using warrantless searches into Cullerton, La Hood, Gutierrez, Kwame, ......and the list will go on.. This could be a gift horse. Start with both IL. houses and move onto IL. dept of transportation, then RTA, and all other entities with in the IL. government. Then warrantless searches into all those shady Taxpayer funded programs like After
school Maters.

8/18/2016 08:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The confiscation of phone records goes back several years. I was not even on the actual scene of an in-custody death, but because I was the Sergeant for the involved officers, my personal cell phone records were subpoenaed. The premise being, that they called me immediately after the incident to ask instructions related to the situation. As a society, especially younger officers, we take texting as a form of speaking. Words disappear, or are not remembered precisely, so what we say is often lost. However, Texting is different, because it is retrievable and virtually forever. In the the moments of a high stress situation, we may say things we later regret. The cell phone affords us the opportunity to say things to a loved one, mentor or confident, that we might otherwise not want repeated; and that is a major mistake. The random confiscation of our vary thoughts is an extremely sensitive issue that must not be taken lightly. This is George Orwell on Roids! Enough is Enough, how much more are coppers expected to give up? Meanwhile, Hedge Funds and buddies of the Rahm and Hillary are making tens of millions of dollars and they are beyond the law! Stay Fetal or Perish! Baby"G"

8/18/2016 08:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OH yeah... Back in February this year, there was a theft at the academy. Some one unlawfully removed CPD service provider. It was immediately replaced and the CPD intranet system had to be rebooted. NO RD was done

8/18/2016 08:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm done. The job might pay well but all of this isn't worth the frustration. Moving my family away from this city. Good luck to those that stay.

8/18/2016 08:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How was I harmed?

I was told same thing when IAD stripped me and sent me to call back for 2 years.
The city sustained all allegations and terminated me. Wait four months, to get to
police board and after two days of testimony,
Found not guilty of any allegations. Wow.

When I stood in front of Shields and the rest of them at FOP the only question was, How were you
harmed? Stripped, transfered, not eligible to work any overtime, and then terminated which stays
in your work file, and then you have to pay for a competent attorney, since FOP says they are not providing
any legal support.

This was over 7 years ago. Well I retired only to have future employers ask me why I was terminated?
Only to provide future employer a copy of police board ruling only to be turned down for new job.

IPRA and IAD are famous for starting allegations but have no way to stop them when they find evidence that
the allegations are false. And if you think the FOP 7 crew are there to help you, we'll throw that idea
in the can. It does not work here in Chicago.

Now enjoying the summer in Wisconsin and winters in Nevada.

My bill for my attorneys cost $6000.00 out of pocket for a false allegation. So save your money
you young chargers.

8/18/2016 08:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OH yeah... Back in February this year, there was a theft at the academy. Some one unlawfully removed CPD service provider. It was immediately replaced and the CPD intranet system had to be rebooted. NO RD was done

8/18/2016 08:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please vote for TRUMP! And i would like to get together with any people who are on the police side of this that have knowledge on how to get rid of our current union. I'm sure the teamsters would love to represent us. They wouldn't tolerate any of this nonsense we are subject to. Lets start rocking the boat from our side!!

8/18/2016 08:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everyone seems to be overlooking the fact that this is a judicial order. Lawyers have been requesting this type of stuff for years but never got it, until now. This is going to be the new normal. The cat is out of the bag, lawyers are going to be requesting cellphones on every case, it's a scare tactic. And stop this nonsense about saying you lost it or don't have a phone, this is an order from a Judge. We're not shitheads, act professional. Get a lawyer and fight this in court.

8/18/2016 08:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think this started when Drew Peterson started his mess. I do not know if he is guilty or not
but?

The state made new law regarding hearsay evidence. Just to get him.

Blagoivich, he get a ton of years just for talking about a golden thing?

while Jessie Jackson jr. Gets under two years for taking money.

What I see is pretty unfair across the board.
Stay fetal and stay in you beat cars.
You are disposable to this citg.

8/18/2016 08:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know that the PBP has been in touch with the unions lawyers downstate and the issue is being research for a proper response. At least they doing something. Also, the Lt's have a good info disclaimer on their website for the past few days since the rulings were made.

8/18/2016 08:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Horrendous decision by Lisa Madigan. Threatening to confiscate personal property. Gestapo tactics?? Our Freedoms and Rights are being taken away in the swipe of a pen....We have given Politicians too many privileges and too much power.

And everyone thinks that Trump is the fascist.

8/18/2016 08:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, another good post. There are tons of suggestions in this and the other posts, but my suggestion would be FIND AN ATTORNEY that you want to handle any incident that may arise later in your career. Once the SHTF (shit hits the fan) you will be in no position to vet attorneys - you want all that handled when you aren't in trouble, so they'll be there when you are.

8/18/2016 08:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's some good advice. Keep it in your pocket and answer it only if an emergency. Stop checking twitter and facebook and espn and what not every 4 seconds. Jesus, you can't be anywhere without seeing a bunch of cops constantly checking their phones. You're not the President downloading the nuclear codes. You can 8 hrs without the phone. That's what's hurting us; the videos showing a bunch of cops standing around with their phones in their hands.

8/18/2016 08:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any notifications shpuld be done by radio or pax. They can't force you to use your own cell phone. Plus it burns up more city time when you use the pax or city phone. It costs the city $$$$$ especially when you take your time doing it.

8/18/2016 08:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've heard Dean on WBEZ, Fox's Kelly File, and on WTTW in the last week.

Clark apparently talked to FOP's conference. So how is Deano silent? Anonymous posting at its best here.

Does anyone with a brain want to re-elect Shileds or Dougherty?

8/18/2016 08:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get a burner. Phone companies do store your records but I'm unsure for how long. It's not much info as far as storage space so they could easily hold it for years. A warrant would be needed to retrieve those records. Cheap phones, bogus email and never use it at home.

8/18/2016 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic but too funny to pass up!!!

Gotta love it! Justice, Cook County style! They are entitled...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-judge-lawyer-substitute-met-20160817-story.html

8/18/2016 08:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what about my E-Mail? Can they get that? I wasn't involved whatsoever but still - what if I came upon some information and sent something? WHere do they draw the line?

8/18/2016 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's outrageous. Personal devices are personal period. I have nothing work related on my cell phone and never have. I do however have emails about my children to and from their doctors and photos of family and emails of bank information. None of which is anyone's fucking business so go fuck yourselves

8/18/2016 08:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dean and Don O'Neill are the same. Double dipping ego jags.

8/18/2016 09:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is an over reach of privacy, officers are protected just as citizens. Cases where phones are confiscated are as the result of an arrest and may have evidence on it which supports the arrest. They may contain evidence as the result of an ARREST, key word ARREST. To obtain cell phone records through the courts you have to show CAUSE for the particular request of records and not just because someone is there on the scene. You may be able to obtain a blanket request of records if they are city, government used phones but privacy issues still exist with your personal phones. DO NOT give any Supervisor or any department member even if ordered your physical cell phone or password, they MUST obtain a court order (WARRANT). Let them site a direct order, DENY the request and let the union deal with it administratively. Even in an attempt by Attorneys to obtain a court order for cell phone records becomes practically impossible if that phone is in the name of your spouse or someone else. Hey FOP lets subpoena the cell phone records of IPRA to show that they cannot conduct a fair and impartial investigation.

8/18/2016 09:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If it hurts the police and makes the savages happy the politicians are all for it. Are they so damn stupid they think the savages will be grateful to them? When the savages get this, they'll celebrate then demand more. When the politicians can't deliver any more, the savages will attack the politicians, then the politicians will be on 911 demanding the police "Do Something!"
Then the police will rush to the scene, after conferring with their attorneys first, and draw pretty little chalk outlines around the politicians carcass. Yep, payback can be a bitch!
Stay safe Officers.

J.J.

8/18/2016 09:13:00 AM  
Blogger 30 pending and what said...

Will it become like the 501 blow. Failure to submit or surrender it volu tarily will then be followed by an administrative order. And if it happens now what?

8/18/2016 09:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this the same Lisa Madigan that law enforcement statewide supported when she was in her tight race for Attorney General in 2008? In fact I think her Daddy and her begged and even made some empty promises to the FOP state board in exchange for LE support. Was it against Joe Birkett the Republican from DuPage?

8/18/2016 09:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two earlier posts, pertaining to this issue, that all should heed.
Unfortunately there are way too many lemurs on the job, that will continue to be made as examples. TRUMP 2016


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Coppers should download the app "Cyberdust" and text and talk on that. Take a look.

8/18/2016 06:55:00 AM

Anonymous said...
Lesson to learn here folks.
1)Leave your personal shit in your car, not your locker, desk, etc. Do Not bring any personal items into any stations/offices, etc.
2) If, by chance , the courts confiscate your personal items, use this as a tool for your job. Take all phones, cameras, recording devices from all people on the scene of any incident that could become a crime scene or a judicial matter. Be patient and professional, write evidence receipts for all of it and provide a copy to each individual. Do this and see how quick this bs will change.
3) STAY OFF SOCIAL MEDIA!!!

8/18/2016 12:43:00 AM

8/18/2016 09:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would like to suggest that all Police Officers download the app for texting. There are several of them, I believe one is called WCKR and the other is SIDELINE. It is basically a texting app that deletes the text after it is read. Very similar to Snapchat. We need to start thinking like criminals when it comes to our own phones, which is pretty sad. SIDELINE also scrambles the telephone numbers making it impossible to know who called. If it is driving DEA and the FBI nuts on their wires then it must be good. Sad times out here people, sad times. Stay safe everyone.

8/18/2016 09:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go to the ASA, present your probable cause, get a warrant signed by a judge, and then call my attorney, because I have no idea what phone your referring to.

8/18/2016 09:18:00 AM  
Blogger Truth Teller said...

Anonymous said...
Deano has been very quiet lately. He is up for election in March. Deano was booed at the north side retirement luncheon while Mike Shields received a standing ovation for getting Sheriff Clark to speak at the engagement.hey Deano what the hell are doing for us.....chirp chirp. Pin drop, feather dropping. Yeah NOTHING!

8/18/2016 07:13:00 AM

??????????

Well I was at the luncheon with my brother-in-law. Truth be told Shields got to introduce Clark because he asked him to come and talk. Dean was not booed. Many of the retirees work for the security company Shield's dad started. Very few if any were going to lose their retro check due to Mike Shields. Dean talks to this group at all their luncheons.

Dean had Clark talk to the unit reps at the State Conference a month ago. Shields might have gotten the idea from FOP.

I call bull on the above post

8/18/2016 09:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anything Dean does is after he checks with his friend Don O'Neill. If Donkeys its okay then Dean will do it. Dean brags in almost every newsletter that he prides himself with getting along with 35th st. He doesn't get along with them, he does what he is told. There is no way that we should give up our personal cellphones and emails without a fight!

8/18/2016 05:03:00 AM

O'Neil is NOT in charge of MLAS and has not been in quiet a while now. That's why mediation has almost ground to a halt now.

8/18/2016 09:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where's Ray Casiano? I thought he was the vice president of Lodge 7? Never hear shit from that guy. Talked a big game when he was running for office. Oh wait, he spoke at the Battle of the Badges boxing tournament. Fantastic leadership and representation!

8/18/2016 09:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Magically cured dwarf Disability Dean in bed with the Department? You don't say!

8/18/2016 09:28:00 AM  
Blogger Manuel Ayala said...

From now on when I'm doing the paper on a shooting and the desk is hollering over the air to call them with the info I'll tell them "with what phone?"

8/18/2016 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Again ask yourself, Is It Worth It? Some cowboys on the job just place themselves in the crosshairs

8/18/2016 10:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Deano has been very quiet lately. He is up for election in March. Deano was booed at the north side retirement luncheon while Mike Shields received a standing ovation for getting Sheriff Clark to speak at the engagement.hey Deano what the hell are doing for us.....chirp chirp. Pin drop, feather dropping. Yeah NOTHING!


Liar. Dean was not booed at the luncheon. Stop spreading bs.

8/18/2016 10:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eddie-the stripper wants to fire 7 or 8 coppers from the scene of McDonald shooting!
WTF? Fire??

8/18/2016 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Over the years the leftists have poked, prodded, and tested the waters. They've learned that police officers are softer than puppy shit and even when backed into a corner will not fight back. By "fighting back" I'm not talking about stubbornly withholding a fucking cell phone or making a call to your sell out union. -1776-

8/18/2016 10:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One way to solve this is do not carry a phone with you that is in your name. Have your spouse of family member buy a phone and have everything in their name. Then just use it.

8/18/2016 10:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree if this gets thru and can be confiscated, then we should be able to confiscate all phones and video cameras when we are on a scene of ANY crime.

8/18/2016 10:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Was it the FBI that said something like, "there has to be an reason to begin an investigation, not just circumstances" before they looked into the Clinton Email Scandal. Perhaps because she deleted 33,000 before ever appearing before Congress.

That the DOJ/IPRA is doing their fishing, looking for something circumstantial to stick into police misconduct (lying,cheating,bias,racism).
This wasn't a common practice until Rahm allowed it. But now he is subject somewhat to it..

The FOP 'How Were You Hurt' test is the determining factor if you were effected by an action the Dept. took, in violation of the Contract, that cost you any financial or contractural distress.

Suggestion:
Place your phone account into another family name, therefore it's essentially not yours.
Make notifications via landline or carry a TracFone - OBamaFone® for this purpose.
After the initial sign up fees of $100, it costs me $11 a month to maintain and minutes rollover (also "grandma's" phone).
Giving up your actual phone makes no sense. If they want the records they can and will go through the carrier.
If it's your "work phone" you're not lying. Having a cellphone account for personal use is not required by the Dept.
Using common sense when texting, photos and calls during work.
However, NOT getting involved in ghetto bullshit and you won't have to worry about the above suggestions.

8/18/2016 10:45:00 AM  
Blogger dc.sunsets said...

The 4th Amendment has been under siege for a long time, especially under color of the Drug War. Look at the bright side: Madigan isn't demand you be cavity-searched yet.

http://www.naturalnews.com/045951_illegal_cavity_search_Border_Patrol_agents_settlement.html

Your personal emails and phones should be accessible only with a warrant and all that precedes it. Isn't it time the politicians were told that "by any means" is illegal, immoral and we're going to start kicking their asses to the unemployment line if they don't wake up?

8/18/2016 10:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11:00am - How right you are!! Why does FOP continue to support Midget Madigan and his clueless, incompetent daughter? When Lisa first ran, then President Donahue fawned all over her. This crap with Deano just sitting on his hands and occasionally appearing on Ch. 11 is not acceptable as the police are under attack from all sides, starting with Little Lisa and Kwami the Swami Raoul. How much more damage can occur before we VOTE DEAN OUT!

Retired .38 spl +P

8/18/2016 10:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://upstream-ideas.com/upstream-ideas/ideas/faisal-khan-expects-forthcoming-criminal-prosecutions-of-current-city-pols

Police getting fired or forced out, but not the crooked city politicians

8/18/2016 11:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Big trouble in little china today....stay tuned......

8/18/2016 11:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The bus just rolled thru once again , the stripper moving to fire officers. Stay fetal.

8/18/2016 11:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yet they won't release McDonald's criminal record, go figure

8/18/2016 12:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: All over national news Eddie ''piece of shit " Johnson says fire 7.

8/18/2016 12:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you think that the ACLU will ever come to the aid of the police, I think you are just dreaming. Lisa Madigan could not find a crooked politician if he/she were standing right in front of her. Hey, wait a minute... they are ! That top Illinois prosecutor has never instituted one criminal case against anyone in the political class, not even those thieving legislators who stole millions in phony tuition waivers or grants for job creation or crime prevention or the recipients who could not account for the money or perjured themselves on applications.

8/18/2016 12:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go to Wallmart, but a 20 phone and a monthly phone card for 20 bucks. Pay cash for everything and activate the phone using the library computer, not your home computer. Use that phone while at work and use a texting app. It is nearly impossible to trace back to you, unless you call your family members on this phone. Don't do that.

8/18/2016 12:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm voting for Shields if he runs again. He would never let this happen.

8/18/2016 12:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7 officers to be fired!
Bosses skate...as usual.

If the G goes after the PO's for civil rights violations will they reach out and touch the bosses too?

8/18/2016 12:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

iPhone. Apple has our backs and will not provide password software to anyone connected to CPD.

8/18/2016 12:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Look over here we made a ton of command changes" - that will keep those dumb officers from talking about the 7 officers we announced we were firing a few hours before.

8/18/2016 01:06:00 PM  
Blogger dda6ga dda6ga said...

Best Buy today: unlocked phone prepaid $20.00

Midwest Bank: roll of quarters

"Hold me down while I find a payphone"

Me: 1966 "hold me down at the Walther while I call-in this battery report"

8/18/2016 01:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just watch the paul oneal video. Saw ex 002 tact Lt M. Moore on the scene running his mouth. Well newly appointed capt moore have you turned over your cell phone yet?

8/18/2016 01:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lots of command changes. se very good ones others not so good. Larry Watson is a prince, good to see him promoted

8/18/2016 01:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you see the amount of assholes that signed up for the OT initiative for Labor Day weekend Fukn ridiculous!!!! We can NEVER stick together no Fukn unity at all soooo disappointing!!!! You guys that signed up are Fukn ASSHOLES!!!! Not one of you guys needed the money that bad go fuck yourselves!!!! Greedy JAGOFFS!!!!

8/18/2016 01:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Take no action who gives a duck there is no way they can into a iPhone

8/18/2016 01:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get a load of this



http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-big-data-police-misconduct-met-20160816-story.html

U. of C. researchers use data to predict police misconduct



While the police misconduct application is one of the more controversial elements of this version of big-data processing, the researchers say their goal is broader.

"The thing we're finding is that using it (big data) to predict officer adverse incidents is just one use," said Rayid Ghani, director of the Center for Data Science & Public Policy and previously chief data scientist for President Barack Obama's 2012 campaign.



Are they for real? Would we get a fair shake from this guy? Will we be notified if this computer program flags us? Will each copper get an SSL number? Can we read HIS emails?

FOP?

8/18/2016 01:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You want my phone?, sure boss....you just have to pry it from my dead cold hands. Now which boss got the balls to do it?

8/18/2016 02:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Madigan does not have a cell phone, does that not tell you something?

8/18/2016 02:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trib story: 8 Cops to be fired over cover up.

8/18/2016 02:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is the ovver-under on this coming weekend?

My guess is much lower than last weekend, 6 and 36.

8/18/2016 02:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I didn't pay attention in ISR class, never wrote one and never will.
But if a PO becomes the subject of an investigation, by taking his phone, shouldn't an ISR be completed?
And if they take ur shit don't u get an inventory receipt?

8/18/2016 03:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Get a "911 only" phone to use from the time you leave the house, through work, and then back home. That way if you see or hear something you can fulfill your obligation to take some action. 911 can then transfer your call to anyone that wants notifications.

8/18/2016 07:19:00 AM

What obligation? You are not required to carry a cell phone! If you are a witness then call when you get to a land line.

If Rahm, alderthieves, or Rerun want me to call then issue a phone. Otherwise I'll call you when I get to the station.
That's how it was when I came on and that's how I have always done it.

8/18/2016 03:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Last straw after the bullshit. 4 more fetal years.

8/18/2016 04:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have an idea? FucK FOP. When will you guys n gals learn. You are now what 7000 strong if lucky? All you have to do is band together. The FOP has been fucking us since I can remember. Stop being fools Stick Together!

8/18/2016 04:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Tiny Dancer said...

Alright, Eddie. Here's how it will go down. While Joe Ferguson officially answers to no one, he will do as I tell him. You fire all the cops in the Laquan thing and I'll tell Ferguson to put the kibosh on the cheating on the lieutenants' promotions. Any questions? I didn't think so.

8/18/2016 04:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

With the firing of 7 members.
You have to ask why we're the exempts allowed to retire or better off why we're
they given the heads up and recommendations to retire? Who gave them this options?

This is total BS.

The city did not want another Glen Evens case that they would see each day.
If they wore the star they are police. If they did wrong they should face the matter.

Instead the city tells the exempts to retire before being terminated.......where is the responsibility?

HEY media where is the accountability, this is just like fire chief allowed to retire before any investigation

The haves and the HAVE NOTS?

8/18/2016 04:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Deano has to go....what a goof.

8/18/2016 04:53:00 PM  
Blogger cloudofhaze said...

I've been reading this blog a while now. I'm not a cop. I'm black. I just have one question for the nonblack cops. why are you still policing in black communities? They don't want you there. And another thing, they will collude and lie to get one of you in prison. Ferguson? Zimmerman?

Or they (your police chief, Special Ed) will stand idly by and let it happen to you. It's so obvious blacks don't want law and order. You'd be doing yourself a favor to give them what they want. Again, I'm black. And I'm just being honest with you.



I live in Brooklyn, NY. I saw a murder up close and personal on Tuesday. 'Fu*k you laughing for.' 'I didn't see/hear nuffin.' The most poignant moment to me was seeing a white cop pumping the guys chest trying to save the black man's life. The video I took of that is a a 30 second look into the irony of blacks and their view of the police.

8/18/2016 05:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So news 1st Deputy, what no Steve Georges?
Arrogance gets you nothing.

Why such wide changes? Anyone connected to HQ are being passed up.

8/18/2016 05:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scc lets talk about something really important tonight... We are 18 days into the month and have 51 homicides. Last August we had 48. We are on pace for over 70 again.

8/18/2016 07:47:00 AM
Sorry as long as black lives murder why bother? Let them police themselves!

8/18/2016 05:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"All the cops associated with the van dyke case were stripped this morning"
What happens to the white shirts who sat on this video to get Rahm elected? What happens to Rahm?!
F@#ck this place, 1st & 16th!!!

8/18/2016 05:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then you have the Ford Foundation founded and funded by the Ford motor company giving the black lives matter group over 100 million dollars:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/16/black-lives-matter-cashes-100-million-liberal-foun/

After reading this and looking into it, was going to put deposit on new Ford explorer wanted to buy "American" but now will never look to buy anything from Ford, now will look at another manufacturer that does not fund groups that cause so much stress and disrupt working peoples lives! What a disgrace! Wonder how much Ford gives to the police? Police agengies buy there vehicles in mass quantities even though they are not the best quality at all!

8/18/2016 05:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So eddie makes command changes today, some involved in mcdonald nonsense they get promoted, others retire 6 figure pensions as the lowly blue shirts are looking at termination, unless your 1 with clout then its ok you can stay!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-police-shakeup-met-20160818-story.html

8/18/2016 06:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Big trouble in little china today....stay tuned......

8/18/2016 11:45:00 AM

David Lopan has appeared on the street! No wonder my spirit is going north and south.

Thanks for the heads up, Jack Burton

8/18/2016 06:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Again ask yourself, Is It Worth It? Some cowboys on the job just place themselves in the crosshairs

8/18/2016 10:13:00 AM

By Worth, do you mean the friendly village?

8/18/2016 06:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eddie-the stripper wants to fire 7 or 8 coppers from the scene of McDonald shooting!
WTF? Fire??

8/18/2016 10:36:00 AM
True unless your that clouted girl, or allowed to retire with a 6 figure pension even though you were involved, then we have the promotions today:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-police-shakeup-met-20160818-story.html

lets take a look here and see some prom-tees with clout and any involvement with mcdonald case hmm:

James O'Donnell was promoted as a deputy chief of street operations after heading the Southwest Side's Chicago Lawn patrol district. He served as commander of Chicago Lawn at the time of the McDonald shooting and was in charge of a couple of hundred patrol officers, including Van Dyke, who is awaiting trial on first-degree murder charges in connection with McDonald's death.

Hmm so you just shuffle the chairs and watch what happens, unless of course you have no calls and are a 9161 (working blue shirt copper) then bam you get hit and hit hard! The sheep are put to pasture praying for the coppers getting railroaded, with these "command changes" eddie you did nothing demoted nothing rewarded the same people who were totally inept in their current positions, but now you give them thousands more in pay and a heftier pension and again zero or minus 0 results! That is like rewarding the CEO of a company that is run into bankruptcy! eddie another failure of leadership the master puppeteer at city hall has you moving like a puppet in the wind!

8/18/2016 06:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

iPhone. Apple has our backs and will not provide password software to anyone connected to CPD.

It doesn't matter if you are fired, disgraced, and sitting in jail for contempt of court.

8/18/2016 06:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous IN THE KNOW said...
Going through all this Hell and aggravation, if there is ANYONE who is not going to vote for Trump and get out of this Third World fog we have drifted into, they must be a total moron.

From raising racial tensions to looking at police as if they are criminals with a guilty-first label until proven innocent, "government" has gone wacky.

We need to get back on track. My two cents -----


8/18/2016 12:35:00 AM



But TRUMP said mean things about Mexicans and Muslims!!!

Do you know that TRUMP wants people to actually obey the laws?!?!

TRUMP WANTS YOU TO OBEY THE LAW!!!

8/18/2016 06:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

all of you attorneys here with your advice are hilarious. what exactly is leaving your phone in your car going to accomplish? are you, a year later, going to tell the supervisor that he/she may not have your phone because you don't carry your phone on duty? do you think that supervisor is going to say "Oh...Okay, disregard there McSmartypants"??? No, he is going to order you to give up your property anyway. you can then say that it is in your car which will be followed by an order to retrieve it. You can counter with not allowing him to go into your car or search your car for it. Fine then...but do you think that if they are going to violate your right to privacy with regard to your phone then they will not violate your right with regard to your car? our only recourse is to defy the order and endure what comes next, hoping the law, which is clear, will prevail, or we can comply, with sound hope that whatever is removed from the phone will not be ultimately used unlawfully against us. the latter is ominous because nobody can UNSEE anything and reputations will suffer. the only thing you can do is not talk about your actions anywhere but in person. When on social media you need to remember that speaking negatively about anything with regard to The Chicago Police Department can be twisted into a rule violation regardless of intention. No "Facebook Live" at a scene. No pictures of Offenders or recovered contraband or property. No selfies in front of the plane crash. If they want it, they will get it and attempt to use it, until a judge with a brain tells them they can't. by that time it will already be out there and you will be tending bar until you hopefully get reinstated with your back pay. Just be careful what you put out there because it is there forever. They don't care about you until they cover there own ass.....even at your expense.

8/18/2016 06:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just like a drug dealer, you better carry two phones, one for family, one for business.

Never, ever have them on at the same time and the same place.

8/18/2016 06:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The solution is simple. Stop texting about OTJ events.

8/18/2016 06:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
SCC, another good post. There are tons of suggestions in this and the other posts, but my suggestion would be FIND AN ATTORNEY that you want to handle any incident that may arise later in your career. Once the SHTF (shit hits the fan) you will be in no position to vet attorneys - you want all that handled when you aren't in trouble, so they'll be there when you are.

8/18/2016 08:34:00 AM

Are you kidding? You are either a lawyer or a babe in the woods, attorneys doing Police labor law in this neck of the woods are tied in to the unions, the Chicago/Cook county democrat machine, selling your a** down the river for that black robe they dream about or pirates looking to loot whatever you have.
Had a lawyer tell me one time,"we work on other peoples tragedy, the more sh*t your in the more we can charge" Vet all you want,if the time comes they will financially drain you tell you "well you know how it works around here" and if by some miracle you get your job back they will explain harmless error,wage mitigation and the courts ideas on making you whole.Ask any Copper who has been through it,when it's over you are ruined.Do your best to not catch a beef...next to impossible in these times.

8/18/2016 06:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now the courts have overturned the original ruling of Officers involved at Taco Burrito from ten years ago.
And the court recommends firing two of the Officers. Eddie the Stripper will be making a decision any second.

It sounds like IPRA is judge shopping. After all of the bad press from Van Dyke case now the Police chase shootings. IPRA has dragged old case back in front of judges. Just to show they can handle the job.

Farley is eating up any officer she can. No matter how long ago the incident occurred. Where is FOP? Hello Dean? I just looked at FOP7 web site and see how Dean Leads from the front?

WHERE THE HELL IS OUR UNION LEADERSHIP?

8/18/2016 06:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

About a couple hundred people assigned to vri from 2 September to 5 September. Wtf!

8/18/2016 06:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just this simple don't text while working. It's not that fucking hard!

8/18/2016 07:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And idiots are still locking up people on bs charges like obstructing traffic. Wake up.

8/18/2016 07:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eddie the stripper is now Eddie the axe man.
He wants to fire 7 coppers who were on scene at McDonald shooting for alleged Rule 14 violations.
Fire them??? Rule 14??

Eddie: you want to talk about Rule 14 violations look no further than your bedmate Lie-Tenant Fenner!
They've got her dead to rights with department emails etc. regarding the answers and cheating on Lt.'s exam.
How's that Lt. exam scam investigation going Eddie??

8/18/2016 07:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Eddie:
Does it hurt when Rahm sticks his hand in your back and moves your lips??
You spineless bastard.
All to save your lying, cheating squeeze Wheezie?

8/18/2016 07:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have been a supervisor for many years and have always told the troops the following about phones; there is no order or directive that states you are required to carry and/or utilize a personal cellular phone for any police business, notifications etc. If there was you would be issued one. To the contrary there is a directive that states you will not use a personal phone while in view of the public. When it comes time for you to make notifications, regardless of the incident, let the dispatcher know that you will make all proper and required notifications as soon as you can get to a telephone. That is how it worked prior to cell phones and that is how it should work now. Stop thinking convenience and start thinking about protecting yourself. You will be at work anyway, bear the heat that some will give you and think. No supervisor should ever tell you to utilize your personal phone while on duty. If a SPAR is obtained for not making timely notifications, fight it. If you work with me I will back you up. If you have worked with me you know who this is. Officers, be safe physically, financially, spiritually.

8/18/2016 07:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just began reading 1984. What a coincidence...

--No Cop Here

8/18/2016 07:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Star Wars ongoing: Special Ed moving to fire seven officers. Meanwhile, how the fuck is it that our former sup is going to bat for us in the media, not Special Ed?

8/18/2016 07:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Get a "911 only" phone to use from the time you leave the house, through work, and then back home. That way if you see or hear something you can fulfill your obligation to take some action. 911 can then transfer your call to anyone that wants notifications.

8/18/2016 07:19:00 AM

What obligation? You are not required to carry a cell phone! If you are a witness then call when you get to a land line.

If Rahm, alderthieves, or Rerun want me to call then issue a phone. Otherwise I'll call you when I get to the station.
That's how it was when I came on and that's how I have always done it.

8/18/2016 03:59:00 PM

Exactly!

8/18/2016 07:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it not true Eddie Johnson is speaking to Jamal Green on his personal cell phone? Would this not be subject to the ruling? If Jamal and Eddie are friends or such. Then, is it not true that Eddie is friend in a person convicted of a crime, since Department policy prohibits any criminal association,except for family. Humm... Is it also true, Jamal is associated with a criminal organization?

8/18/2016 07:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just my thoughts, but if this is the road they wish then to ensure that the judge, states Attorney and defense council assigned to the case should surrender their phones for duration of the case, hence to prevent another gray lord or deals from the. Doj

8/18/2016 07:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I didn't pay attention in ISR class, never wrote one and never will.
But if a PO becomes the subject of an investigation, by taking his phone, shouldn't an ISR be completed?
And if they take ur shit don't u get an inventory receipt?

8/18/2016 03:01:00 PM
----

Great job on the explanation. That is probably a yes to the inventory and the receipt for the phone.

8/18/2016 07:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I started today making my notifications via PAX line in the station, just like the old days!

No more personal cell phone use for city business!

CPIC, New Affairs, and Ilk just gonna have to wait for the information now!

Old school style! Don't like it too bad!

8/18/2016 07:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One more thing:
Besides removing contacts, music and appears, does a full delete (Erase all Data and Contents) on an iPhone erase any/all "sent" or stored hard data? If so, then it makes the internals of the phone virtually eliminated and essentially a new phone. Using a Cloud may be helpful should this method be used.
So anyway, you give them your phone and you won't see it for over a year, do they pay out replace it until then?
Cellphones are family lifelines. Don't relinquish your property just because they say so.
And another thing...an iPhone is certainly cannot be open without a password.
Who gives anyone their PIN ?
Seems like a FED ploy to get a chickenshit to squeal on a coworker.

8/18/2016 07:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If that old BS rule about getting a CR number within an hour is still in effect, as I recall the civilian investigators would not take the excuse that you did not have a phone and could not make a call and you were tied up at the crime scene. I know this only applies to supervisors, but they will hammer you with this rule. I am also wondering how the person who was the Chief of Detectives at the time of this incident, Escalante, skated with nothing? Was he not responsible as a chief for making sure the investigation was correct? Is this political? Is he being protected??

8/18/2016 07:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is owning a cell phone a pre-requisite for being a police officer.? If so, do you deduct it as a work related expense? Should the union require reimbursement for buying and maintaining one, maybe something like the uniform allowance. Otherwise the best suggestion I've seen here is to have your spouse put the phone in her/or his name. They demand your phone? Sorry, I don't have one.

8/18/2016 08:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Then you have the Ford Foundation founded and funded by the Ford motor company giving the black lives matter group over 100 million dollars:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/16/black-lives-matter-cashes-100-million-liberal-foun/

After reading this and looking into it, was going to put deposit on new Ford explorer wanted to buy "American" but now will never look to buy anything from Ford, now will look at another manufacturer that does not fund groups that cause so much stress and disrupt working peoples lives! What a disgrace! Wonder how much Ford gives to the police? Police agengies buy there vehicles in mass quantities even though they are not the best quality at all!

8/18/2016 05:50:00 PM

Suddenly feel disgusted behind the wheel of my Ford. Shame on them.

8/18/2016 08:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
You want my phone?, sure boss....you just have to pry it from my dead cold hands. Now which boss got the balls to do it?

8/18/2016 02:03:00 PM

__________

Right, you will be fired. And the bosses will enjoy their fat checks, while you struggle to find a minimum wage job.

A Supervisor for Change

8/18/2016 09:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
I have been a supervisor for many years and have always told the troops the following about phones; there is no order or directive that states you are required to carry and/or utilize a personal cellular phone for any police business, notifications etc. If there was you would be issued one. To the contrary there is a directive that states you will not use a personal phone while in view of the public. When it comes time for you to make notifications, regardless of the incident, let the dispatcher know that you will make all proper and required notifications as soon as you can get to a telephone. That is how it worked prior to cell phones and that is how it should work now. Stop thinking convenience and start thinking about protecting yourself. You will be at work anyway, bear the heat that some will give you and think. No supervisor should ever tell you to utilize your personal phone while on duty. If a SPAR is obtained for not making timely notifications, fight it. If you work with me I will back you up. If you have worked with me you know who this is. Officers, be safe physically, financially, spiritually.

8/18/2016 07:17:00 PM


One local dept requires that if the officer carries a personal cell on duty he must send a complete copy of his cell bill/use to the department .

8/18/2016 09:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If your police union and/or protective association doesn't IMMEDIATELY file for an injunction... I would immediately drop membership and start a whole new union.

The FOP & PBA were formed in order to stop this kind of shit and if they won't then decertify the fuckers!

8/18/2016 09:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Only in the FOP could someone like Mike Shields stand in public after what he did to us. I call bull**** at the retirees luncheon also. Shields and Dean have always worked together. Dean is Bill Nolan's stooge. Mike is friends with little Dean. They have controlled the FOP for many years except the Donahue years. We need to elect someone who will look out for the active guys, we need it now more than ever.

8/18/2016 09:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dean and Don O'Neill are the same. Double dipping ego jags.

8/18/2016 09:05:00 AM

True. But at least O'Neill knows that he is stupid.

8/18/2016 10:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous IN THE KNOW said...
Going through all this Hell and aggravation, if there is ANYONE who is not going to vote for Trump and get out of this Third World fog we have drifted into, they must be a total moron.

From raising racial tensions to looking at police as if they are criminals with a guilty-first label until proven innocent, "government" has gone wacky.

We need to get back on track. My two cents -----


8/18/2016 12:35:00 AM



But TRUMP said mean things about Mexicans and Muslims!!!

Do you know that TRUMP wants people to actually obey the laws?!?!

TRUMP WANTS YOU TO OBEY THE LAW!!!

8/18/2016 06:30:00 PM

Hate Hillary but Trump is a piece of shit. Can't do it.

8/18/2016 10:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rumor all involved in lie ten ants scandal
IG will subpoena all telephone , department and personal emails
This will be the biggest scandal since Summerdale

8/18/2016 10:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR PHONE WITHOUT A SEARCH WARRANT......
Go buy a burner if you must carry a phone, like the bangers do..and use this ONLY at work, for work ONLY, and notify Personnel of your new number, since that is mandatory if you do NOT have a landline....

CANCEL YOUR CURRENT PHONE IMMEDIATELY IF IT IS IN YOUR NAME......
CANCEL YOUR CURRENT EMAIL ACCOUNTS IF IN YOUR NAME.....
NEW COMPUTERS CAN BE HAD FOR $300.......or destroy the hard drive on the old one, and replace it.
Have wife or mommy or daddy or girlfriend get some new accounts/phones but NEVER use it at work

QUIT FUCKING TEXTING ......BIG BROTHER IS NOT ONLY WATCHING! HE IS HUNTING!!!
SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THIS SHIT WAS COMING WHEN THEY GOT THAT JUDGE TO KEEP ALL OLD DISCIPLINARY FILES FROM THE FUCKING 1800s! THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN APPEALED ALL THE WAY TO THE SUPREME COURT,






8/18/2016 11:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

True datts.

8/18/2016 11:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Retired in Wisconsin said. There is alot of road construction near Green Bay. Slow down and save lives. And no texting while driving through a construction zone. New law.

8/18/2016 11:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey scc I have a bright idea how about we use the $5000 computer we have in car to make notifications, maybe have email available on pdt

8/18/2016 11:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then you have the Ford Foundation founded and funded by the Ford motor company giving the black lives matter group over 100 million dollars:

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The Ford Foundation no longer has any connection to the Ford Motor Company. Read their Wikipedia page.


8/18/2016 11:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...


Is it not true Eddie Johnson is speaking to Jamal Green on his personal cell phone? Would this not be subject to the ruling? If Jamal and Eddie are friends or such. Then, is it not true that Eddie is friend in a person convicted of a crime, since Department policy prohibits any criminal association,except for family. Humm... Is it also true, Jamal is associated with a criminal organization?

8/18/2016 07:24:00 PM

Convicted FELON is the rule.

8/18/2016 11:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...


Star Wars ongoing: Special Ed moving to fire seven officers. Meanwhile, how the fuck is it that our former sup is going to bat for us in the media, not Special Ed?

8/18/2016 07:23:00 PM

How? Because he's angling for a new job, that's how. He's an attention-monger without a podium and he's probably getting a little bit desperate about now.

8/18/2016 11:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder if Lisa thinks that the phones of the current legislation is subject to the same rules.
Yeah, right....daddy says "no".

8/19/2016 12:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DISABILITY-Dean must have figured out a way to disable his phone🙃

8/19/2016 02:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems to me the fop only does something or pretend to do something like wait for city hall to call them when you call them out. This administration has no interest in protecting cops that are not named dean angelo. So maybe you can do a daily column and maybe closer to the election for fop members who have no memory listing what the fop did not bother to do for you.just an idea.

8/19/2016 05:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The liberals favorite newspaper, New York Times, editorializes Friday that they should not be required to turn over unpublished articles to courts regarding Deserter Bergdahl.
Do police officers have less rights than newspapers?

8/19/2016 06:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just began reading 1984. What a coincidence...

--No Cop Here


- if you did it on duty it's subject to foia! Throw that copy away and have your wife get one with cash from a used book store. Keep a cover on it with the name of a different book. Never admit to being literate. That is the only way they won't fuck you!

8/19/2016 07:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
iPhone. Apple has our backs and will not provide password software to anyone connected to CPD.

It doesn't matter if you are fired, disgraced, and sitting in jail for contempt of court.

8/18/2016 06:27:00 PM

The FBI bypassed Apple and got someone else to open their phones. Apple now wants to know how they did it!

8/19/2016 08:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Then you have the Ford Foundation founded and funded by the Ford motor company giving the black lives matter group over 100 million dollars:

-
The Ford Foundation no longer has any connection to the Ford Motor Company. Read their Wikipedia page.

No connection?
https://www.fordfoundation.org/about-us/history/




8/18/2016 11:32:00 PM

8/19/2016 08:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hate Hillary but Trump is a piece of shit. Can't do it.

8/18/2016 10:25:00 PM

A non-vote is a vote for Clinton.

This is not a popularity contest. You don't have to like Trump.

Hillary WILL destroy the USA.

She is a BLM supporter and HATES the Police. She has repeatedly said so in the past few months. YouTube it.

The big picture-(Supreme Court appointments,unlimited refugee admittance,etc.) is much more important than personal feelings toward a candidate.

8/19/2016 08:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hahhhh. yes Deano was booed. I joined in on the booing. He deserved to be booed. He didn't get sheriff Clark there shields did. During the booing the stroke on the microphone stated that this was not the proper behavior. Then he stated that Deano had been working soo hard and was up for re election in March and that he and Dean would appreciate it if everyone voted for him.

So why don't you get our facts straight and not stiffen the truth tellers. Watch and listen to the many of the videos taken.

8/19/2016 09:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lots of dead-weight FOP and never seen anything like it. Dean did send out a reactionary email yesterday regarding the cell phone issue. But Ray Casino?! Nothing. WE pay him big money to sit in his office with door closed, won't take calls, no voicemail either, avoids real issues but makes sure you know he is the "1st VP". But honestly, I don't want him handling real issues. -Hey Ray, how much money did we pay to have all of your clothes embroidered with "1st VP"?! I'm getting too off track here, so I won't get started on his "Expense reimbursements".

8/19/2016 09:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't get all the discussion on this topic. Are you guys f'SPED! My rights "This is an over reach of privacy, officers are protected just as citizens.", Zombiedust to block your tracks on the internet, girlfriend buys the cell phone, pay as you go, etc. etc..

You're on duty. You're not a private citizen. Your texting, fecesbooking during work hours. Come on now. I can't believe your Union didn't warn you. The only time I do my stuff is during lunch and on my paid by me server. CPS phone calls to parents only during my working hours to the second.

They want you to call. They need to provide you with a phone. Stay Fetal my friends.

Old school CPS Teacher

8/19/2016 11:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Then you have the Ford Foundation founded and funded by the Ford motor company giving the black lives matter group over 100 million dollars:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/16/black-lives-matter-cashes-100-million-liberal-foun/

After reading this and looking into it, was going to put deposit on new Ford explorer wanted to buy "American" but now will never look to buy anything from Ford, now will look at another manufacturer that does not fund groups that cause so much stress and disrupt working peoples lives! What a disgrace! Wonder how much Ford gives to the police? Police agengies buy there vehicles in mass quantities even though they are not the best quality at all!

8/18/2016 05:50:00 PM

Suddenly feel disgusted behind the wheel of my Ford. Shame on them.

8/18/2016 08:15:00 PM

Stop feeling disgusted. Do your own research.
Ford Motors and the Ford Foundation are two separate things and have been separate for a VERY, VERY long time.
You can drive your Ford with a clear conscience.

8/19/2016 01:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hate Hillary but Trump is a piece of shit. Can't do it.

8/18/2016 10:25:00 PM


Hmmm.... hate Trump, but Hillary is a piece of shit. Can't do it.

8/19/2016 01:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then you have the Ford Foundation founded and funded by the Ford motor company giving the black lives matter group over 100 million dollars:

-
The Ford Foundation no longer has any connection to the Ford Motor Company. Read their Wikipedia page.


8/18/2016 11:32:00 PM
wikipedia is a page that is put up by people,anyone can enter information here you go Henry Ford and Edsel ford founded it, bet ford still has hands in it:

Our history

The Ford Foundation was established by Edsel Ford in 1936, with an initial gift of $25,000. Today, we are stewards of a $12 billion endowment. Over the past 80 years our social justice mission and vision have guided us through transformations in the foundation, the communities we serve, and the world at large.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/16/black-lives-matter-cashes-100-million-liberal-foun/

8/19/2016 02:35:00 PM  
Blogger Truth Teller said...

Anonymous said...
Only in the FOP could someone like Mike Shields stand in public after what he did to us. I call bull**** at the retirees luncheon also. Shields and Dean have always worked together. Dean is Bill Nolan's stooge. Mike is friends with little Dean. They have controlled the FOP for many years except the Donahue years. We need to elect someone who will look out for the active guys, we need it now more than ever.

8/18/2016 09:53:00 PM

------------------------------------
Anonymous said...

I have to say this is another BULLSHIT post:

Only in the FOP could someone like Mike Shields stand in public after what he did to us.
It’s what the City-Wide team did to Shields that cost the State Lodage and Lodge 7 in settlements. Donahue’s attempted dynasty was spoiled by the unprepared Shields. The Coup was lead by Doughtery and supported by Donahue’s best friend past State president Ted Street.

I call bull**** at the retirees luncheon also.
These luncheons are private events not paid for by FOP

Shields and Dean have always worked together.
ShieldS sued FOP for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Angelo fought him instead of settling like the State Lodge did. Shields is not happy with Angelo

Dean is Bill Nolan's stooge.
Angelo is an independent thinker or most people with knowledge of FOP think so

Mike is friends with little Dean.
Maybe I have no knowledge of this. Maybe they are but it has to be strained.

They have controlled the FOP for many years except the Donahue years.
Angelo Jr. And Shields were not on the job at all under John Dineen nor Bill Nolan Presidencies. Nor may they have been under the first years of the Donahue term. But why like facts get into the way of your post.

We need to elect someone who will look out for the active guys, we need it now more than ever.
Truer than you know. Donahue years saw 30k illegal raises for the field reps and 40k illegal rase for Donahue. They also sold back their time at captains pay for the field reps. Angelo first move was to roll all that back.

I call most of your post BULL


8/18/2016 09:53:00 PM

8/19/2016 04:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why do we have to do isr after a arrest?

8/19/2016 04:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then you have the Ford Foundation founded and funded by the Ford motor company giving the black lives matter group over 100 million dollars:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/16/black-lives-matter-cashes-100-million-liberal-foun/

After reading this and looking into it, was going to put deposit on new Ford explorer wanted to buy "American" but now will never look to buy anything from Ford, now will look at another manufacturer that does not fund groups that cause so much stress and disrupt working peoples lives! What a disgrace! Wonder how much Ford gives to the police? Police agengies buy there vehicles in mass quantities even though they are not the best quality at all!

8/18/2016 05:50:00 PM

I'm glad I bought a Toyota rather than a Ford vehicle! Ford is shit anyway!

8/19/2016 04:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Only in the FOP could someone like Mike Shields stand in public after what he did to us.
It’s what the City-Wide team did to Shields that cost the State Lodage and Lodge 7 in settlements. Donahue’s attempted dynasty was spoiled by the unprepared Shields. The Coup was lead by Doughtery and supported by Donahue’s best friend past State president Ted Street.

Okay Mr. I call bullshit, The Shields case went to trial with Lodge 7, there was no settlement. Actually a jury trial. Mikey lost his whistle blower part of the lawsuit. Jury gave him $21,600 for three years stipend from 2014-2017. This is because Dean didn't put him on the board as immediate past president. Again the state settled not Lodge 7.

Shields and Dean have always worked together.
ShieldS sued FOP for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Angelo fought him instead of settling like the State Lodge did. Shields is not happy with Angelo

Look at the minutes of board meetings from 2011- 2014 when Shields was president. Dean Jr and his friends on the board all voted with Shields, even voted not guilty on Shields when charges were brought up on him for not sending the letter. Dean Jr voted to allow Mike to pick his own committee on the charges against Shields.

Dean is Bill Nolan's stooge.
Angelo is an independent thinker or most people with knowledge of FOP think so

Dean was on the board in the 90's. He was Bill Nolans hand picked Chairman of the Trustees and Nolan brought him in as a field rep. Kinda like a merit promotion.

They have controlled the FOP for many years except the Donahue years.
Angelo Jr. And Shields were not on the job at all under John Dineen nor Bill Nolan Presidencies. Nor may they have been under the first years of the Donahue term. But why like facts get into the way of your post.

Nolan and Dean have controlled the board for years not Shields. Nolan was on the board during Dineen's terms, he was president for 9 years and immediate president for 9 years. Now he sits on the board illegally under Dean in a position he's not entitled to be in and Dineen is being paid as parliamentarian ($600 per month) by Dean. Never in FOP history has the parliamentarian been paid.

There was no illegal raises under Donahue because if there was charges would have been brought up on Donahue and treasurer John Capperelli. Capperelli was treasurer then and he is treasurer today.

Those are the facts my brother and I should know because I have had a seat at this show going back to John Dineen.

8/20/2016 09:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Be careful if you deduct your cell phone on your tax returns then say you don't have one.

8/20/2016 12:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Ford foundation no longer owns any Ford stock or has anything to do with the automaker.

It is a charitable by trust started by Henry and Edsel Ford who both would turn over in their graves if they knew what their money was being used for.

8/20/2016 01:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These "foundations" have little in common with their old founders. Ford was a right winger. Businessmen USED to be conservative, America First people. Now these foundations are run by left wingers that have little interest in business and a whole bunch in "social justice". we are truly fucked, the universities turn our these nincompoops by the hundreds of thousands and they are convinced that for some reason, no matter where you're from, no matter how much you hate everyone but you and yours, you're entitled to be here because we're all from immigrants. You dummies didn't notice that from the 1920's to 1965, the US had very few immigrants because we needed to Americanize the damn Europeans that came here and we didn't allow much immigration because of that. The population here grows by around a million per year and it ain't us having those kids, it's foreigners coming here with their whole families. One landscaper arrives and once he's here, his 15 relatives with no money, no education, poor health and no prospects show up on our doorstep and we have to support them.

And good old Ted Kennedy helped pass immigration reform and "claimed" that it would not change the ethnic make up of the US. Well folks, white will be a plurality in 2040. In 75 years from 92% of the population to 49%. Well, it's OK... No it's not. Look at the rest of the world. Look how "people that are different" from the majority are treated. At least here we are trying to be better at inclusion and you're not getting your hand chopped off because you're a different religion or tribe. What in the fuck are we thinking? The rest of the world, outside of the West is a shit hole of violence and poverty. And you want that here?

When the US falls, the light of humanity will flicker out and you dumb asses helped it happen. Keep voting democrat, you idiots.

8/21/2016 02:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

8/20/2016 09:40:00 AM

????

Which Donahue puppet are you

8/21/2016 09:12:00 PM  

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