Friday, August 19, 2016

Separation Effort

  • Chicago's police superintendent has recommended that seven officers be fired for lying in the aftermath of the fatal shooting of Laquan McDonald in October 2014.

    McDonald's death was captured in a video that contradicted the accounts of officers.

    Superintendent Eddie Johnson emailed police Thursday morning, telling them that he had recommended seven officers be fired for making false statements. He also stripped the officers of their police powers.

    Johnson's move came in response to Inspector General Joseph Ferguson's recent report on the shooting in which he recommended that 10 officers be fired. But Johnson wrote that he thought the evidence against one of the officers was insufficient to recommend termination.
This after all the gold stars were given adequate warning to line up six-figure jobs and retire with their pensions intact. Amazing how that happens.

So now, the Department is firing people for statements contradictory to the video? Were the officers allowed to review the video prior to signing statements? Were statement even signed or were Detective summaries of interviews used to "justify" this travesty?

Here's a neat little graphic:


What a video camera records from a fixed spot is different from what an officer may see ten feet to the left, twenty feet to the right, from behind cover, from a moving vehicle, from across the street. That doesn't make it wrong and it certainly doesn't make it criminal, let alone an offense deserving of separation. Johnson is playing politics with seven coppers lives while three or more exempts skate into secure futures.

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156 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Johnson isn't playing with anything, this all comes from city hall all the way. Rham wants him to be the hatchet man even though it was Rham who purposely sat on the video until after the election. Now, he'll say when running fr re-election that he reformed the department. Johnson took th job with the best of intentions and walked right into the lions den. Sadly, city hall still runs the department, it just keeps changing the figure heads, meanwhile, the rank and file and city suffer.

8/19/2016 12:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Knowing the officers involved it disgusts me what the supt is doing. These officers did NOTHING wrong. You cannot tell anyone what they saw from their vantage point. It's a complete railroad job by this asshole and good coppers and more importantly good people are losing their jobs because of politics and racial rhetoric

8/19/2016 12:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any sports fan knows that instant replay only works due to multiple camera angles. Many times one angle is completely misleading.

Not a cop and was never a big fan until St Swisher. Am truly amazed that anyone would consider Law Enforcement as a career in this environment. I could not stand in a police line for hours enduring people screaming at me from inside my personal space. The self discipline you guys display is amazing.

BC

8/19/2016 12:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you for the photo SCC. You really know how to put things into perspective

8/19/2016 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just asking, is there a supt that has ever been more hated than this one?

8/19/2016 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous 29 and day said...

when I was in the academy I was told " They cant tell you what you saw or what you heard" How does anyone know what I saw at the time the situation was unfolding. regardless of the video tape.

Just saying

8/19/2016 12:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Fuck the exempts said...

This is the definition of "shit rolls down hill".

8/19/2016 12:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our phones are fair game now but somehow Laquan's juvenile records are a no go in court. Amazing

8/19/2016 12:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've said it before and will repeat!! Media and blog snoopers, pay attention. Rahm and high ranking members of CPD (McCarthy included) lobserved the McDonald video the morning after the shooting. This is true and I can't imagine that it would be hard For the media to find those that were there! Rahm was upset and said this could be a disaster to my campaign. Shortly thereafter he authorized a payment of 5 million in hush money to the McDonald family. The media accidentally caught wind and wanted to know what was on the video that was commanding a 5 million dollar payout ( did we mention that no lawsuit was filed initially). Rahm taught to keep the video that he observed and paid out on sealed (does anyone really believe that Rahm would give away 5 million without seeing why?), but lost his battle. That is when the dumpings began. Media, you can't be this dumb (although Rahm thinks you guys are), dig. Do your jobs. The rating will go through the rough if you actually report instead of conceal. Dig deep into Chief Roy. It's not hard. Dig into Escalante, keep talking to McCarthy. Tell me this media, why have you not reported on incompetent people people getting promoted via a cheating scandal that ran as high as a 1st deputy. By doing this more incompetent people end up in positions of authority. All I'm saying is print ALL facts!

8/19/2016 12:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This city makes me sick. I cannot wait to leave this city behind.

8/19/2016 12:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stripper Ed has lost it. He sacrificed this entire agency for a piece of ass! Unbelievable. Where is the media? They think cheating on a civil service exam is OK?

8/19/2016 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does everyone know that Garry McCarthy has filed a lawsuit against the city, because he feels that he was unjustly fired relative to the Laquan McDonald incident? And that he is being represented by the huge law firm of Mayer Brown, who is getting paid big big bucks from our tax dollars? I would love to read this bullshit lawsuit, which should be thrown out immediately. If the 7 officers are to be fired, and the Lt and Cmdr were recommended to be fired (if they had not retired), then the superintendent should have been fired too. Shit should roll up hill.

8/19/2016 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The responsibility of the Supervisors is to study and analyze the Video and evidence and then make a Statement,Throw the Blue Shirt under the Bus,The Management is Shit.

8/19/2016 01:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fight this!! Fight this!! Fight this!!! Don't go down without a Fight. Appalling, beyond words. No Rights, No Freedoms for Chicago Police Officers....those in Blue!!! As the sanctimonious creeps go on their merry way. Darn Right-Not Right!!!

8/19/2016 01:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seeing as this rumor was true what about the other part of the rumor?? The part that the Lie tenant scam is being (or has been) shoved under the rug. Shouldn't there be a finding on this by now? It's been 6 months.

8/19/2016 01:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck this job. I am so done with any version of proactive police work!

8/19/2016 01:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's time to change Special Ed to "Eddie the Stripper."

8/19/2016 01:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What did they think would happen when they got out of the car ?

8/19/2016 01:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Today: Chicago Police Department took aggressive action and fired seven officers.

Three years from Now: Seven Police Officers win their court battle and have been reinstated with back pay.

8/19/2016 02:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You have to actually crazy to apply for this job unless your clout guarantees you a spot where you don't have to interact with the public. If you are on this job with no clout in a squad please be careful and do the bare minimum.

8/19/2016 02:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fucking Bullshit!!! Fetal For Life!!! Yet nobody wants to talk about how 7-8 blue shirts get shafted! Fuck this department! Fuck these bosses!

8/19/2016 02:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone think that Rahm knew about the lieutenant cheating scandal that is why he hand picked Johnson and disregarded the other candidates. Rahm tells Johnson "I know you didn't apply for the job but fuck you either you do as I say or you and all your cheating lieutenants will be fired".

8/19/2016 02:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dean Angelo is an embarrassment!. Useless, Grandfatherly suckup! He has nobody's back on this Department. Wake up Coppers. He surrounds himself with cowards who have no intention of standing up to WHITE SHIRTS or Rahm, or the, so called activists!!!!! Dean has been significantly silent through all of our trials and tribulations. Our Union has gone to sleep at a crucial time in our history. We have nobody to rely on. We are on our own. No confidence in Grandpa Dean. Useless, coward!!!!!!!!!!!!

8/19/2016 03:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will everyone believe me now when I say, it's not what's true, it's what THEY think is true. If you have clout true is true, because so and so's kid couldn't possibly be a liar. If your first generation with no clout, you are a liar. Goodbye...

8/19/2016 03:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep on running and gunning out there boys n girls the dept has got your back.

8/19/2016 03:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Witch hunt continues, gold star gets heads up, blue shirt gets a fuck u, FUCK U Rahm, ej, IPRA, ACLU, faker, media, revruns, politicians ,big fuck u to BLM,
This is not a slam dunk by any means for the police board, but then u have the politics

8/19/2016 03:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bodycam show you distorted ultra-wide view 25 feet left, right, wherever you slapped first-aid on your pard and then jumped out to try to stop ongoing murderous s_t. At an angle, too.

Nice pictures of clouds.

Government By Video.

This is real sudden, to those of us old enough to have any perspective.

8/19/2016 04:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Conversation at HQ is this move was all CITY HALL but done through EJ as to appear transparent in the eyes of South & West side peoples/folks. EJ is counting on the police board handing down suspensions rather than termination. Additionally, he believes this will help morale with black officers who feel marginalized on this job.

I say, lets put all African Americans (A/A) in predominately A/A districts for 36 months and gauge the results. Lets start with the "murder capitol of America" 007. Pull all white and hispanic officers and supervisors and replace with our A/A brothers in blue. This is not a dig on our A/A brothers and sisters but a dig on the community that refuses to accept responsibility for their own actions. To reward of brothers and sisters in blue, give those A/A officers a top pick to whatever district they want to go after the 36 months. STAY FETAL KIDS.

8/19/2016 05:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rats, excuse me , I mean Exempts , always leave the sinking ship first, and with retirement credentials to boot, officers/detectives ? not so much

8/19/2016 05:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A grunt is a grunt is a grunt! Keep working hard grunts!

8/19/2016 05:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is absolutely fucking disgusting. Johnson is despicable. Anyone that continues to do anything near the realm of proactive policing for this sell out mutt deserves what they get. This is a new low even for the CPD. For the first time in my career I spit on this department because this move here just made me sick to my stomach. Anyone signing up for this department today needs their head examined. Anyone doing proactive police work needs their head examined.

8/19/2016 05:32:00 AM  
Blogger Jim Christian said...

So Chicago is short "X" number of cops, sounds like they fire many every year in unproductive adventures, plus retirements and outright quits. How many new hires do they take in every month? How the Hell do you folks even cope? Do you guys move to other departments? Also, what's it cost to take a kid off the street and turn him into a brand new cop (I realize becoming a "cop" is a lifetime process, as is being a fire fighter)? Good luck out there, fellas. Careful!

8/19/2016 05:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't think this will end after seep ration.

Everyone is lining up to hammer these officers, and yes bosses too.

I would not be surprised if all were also charged-state AND federally

I don't want it to happen. Will not be surprised if it does

8/19/2016 06:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT, but worth it...can someone FOIA all calls and texts from jAmall to your supt?

And will they show that any officers rights were violated?

8/19/2016 06:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is another reason not to do a god damn thing. Let this city burn and let these weasel cock sucking bosses squirm , while crime goes through the ceiling.

8/19/2016 06:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ken-frydman-stop-judging-police-out-of-context-video-clips-article-1.2757026

STOP JUDGING POLICE FROM OUT-OF-CONTEXT VIDEO CLIPS

Black, white, Asian or Hispanic, when a cop places you under arrest, you don’t resist. You don’t mouth off. You don’t take a swing at the officer, kick him or slam his head into a counter. And you certainly don’t bite him.
You comply.

It’s Newton’s third law: For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Strike an officer and you will be met with the physical force necessary to subdue and arrest you.

8/19/2016 06:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's a known fact that witnesses are the worst reporters of an incident. Since they have the cameras, why bother having PO's writing reports? It's not even redundant. It sounds silly-dopey.
Rahm, as well as Aldermen, City Officials, County Officials, and others, saw the video and hide it from the public for a year.
Are all of those people going to get fired too?
Fair is Fair.


Not the Police

8/19/2016 06:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Witch hunt!

8/19/2016 06:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On the scene of any incident, the perspective I have will be different from my partners because we will not be standing, looking, seeing or hearing the EXACT same things.


My thoughts are with these seven sacrificial coppers.
But, once they are dismissed, these seven will have to go thru hell to get their jobs back, if they even want them at that point.
But with a good lawyer, they will get their jobs back.
This is nothing but a hatchet job to appease the "community."


8/19/2016 06:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This pales next to the Venecko coverup. Still only the clouted will escape again. Shit still rolls down hill. The lowly blue shirt will again be hung out to dry to appease those democratic voters. Pandering Mayor has to deliver that vote to the Clinton cabal. This city is rotten to the core.

8/19/2016 06:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The key in my opinion is if the officers actually saw the video or not before they wrote their reports. It's easy to second guess once you've seen the video, but if you weren't afford that opportunity before you wrote your report that would put you in a tough spot. If you saw the video and then wrote a report that JVD was being attacked, then I would suggest preparing that resume.

8/19/2016 07:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey dumb ass Ed. Why is the police department still investigating fatal police shooting if it is against state law? By the way Ed. It's one investigation not two. Trying to jam up some dics? Is that what you are doing now?

8/19/2016 07:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And now, if a police officer is a witness to anything he would be stupid to admit it and just say I didn't see nuffin. You don't have to agree or disagree with the camera. There is no video as to what you see.

I would also recommend that when going to pre-trial conferences with ASA's, that a person be very careful what he/she remembers. Prompts should be ignored.

Give them what they think they want.

8/19/2016 07:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you guys do anything except hide in the hole, your nuts.

8/19/2016 07:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If people working don't see the handwriting on the wall then they are blind. Officers who got involved and say what they seen are fired! Camera angles given more weight, like magic, angles can give a false story and or not the whole story. It's just like when the Detectives would hold witness against their will and treat them as if they were the bad guy. Before you knew it no one saw anything. Now why would an Officer get involved as a witness.

8/19/2016 07:40:00 AM  
Blogger pathickey said...

I hope you do not mind SCC - as I read you before what passses for news in this hick burg, I was compelled to cite you in my offering this AM.
http://hickeysite.blogspot.com/2016/08/mary-schmich-tell-me-quick-before-i.html

8/19/2016 07:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just asking, is there a supt that has ever been more hated than this one?

8/19/2016 12:25:00 AM

That's a tough call.
I'd certainly say there's never been a more pandering, buffoon like, incompetent Supe than Eddie-the stripper/Axe man though.

8/19/2016 07:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Citizen here

Is the end game for Rahm to drive you guys crazy so you go fetal, crime skyrockets, and he then proclaims police are ineffective, costing taxpayers too much money in lawsuits and you should be replaced with a private "security" force?

8/19/2016 07:51:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

Get on this Deano. Something needs to be done quickly.

8/19/2016 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Conversation at HQ is this move was all CITY HALL but done through EJ as to appear transparent in the eyes of South & West side peoples/folks. EJ is counting on the police board handing down suspensions rather than termination. Additionally, he believes this will help morale with black officers who feel marginalized on this job.

I say, lets put all African Americans (A/A) in predominately A/A districts for 36 months and gauge the results. Lets start with the "murder capitol of America" 007. Pull all white and hispanic officers and supervisors and replace with our A/A brothers in blue. This is not a dig on our A/A brothers and sisters but a dig on the community that refuses to accept responsibility for their own actions. To reward of brothers and sisters in blue, give those A/A officers a top pick to whatever district they want to go after the 36 months. STAY FETAL KIDS.

8/19/2016 05:27:00 AM
Eddi said numerous times "people of color feel more comfortable talking and relating to their own people" now Eddie the bullshit stops try the above experiment with all the murdered and maimed a new "strategic decision" needs to be implemented immediately! "Got balls?"

8/19/2016 08:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have been say from day one.
Eddie the stripper is his name. Special Ed was too nice.

8/19/2016 08:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

$20 says Van Dyke will walk.

8/19/2016 08:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahm Emanuel knew of this shooting and kept it under wraps until AFTER THE ELECTION. He should be fired, too. If only we could be so lucky.

8/19/2016 08:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But yet everybody signs up for VRI on labor day, and how did that Bud Billiken day boycott go, oh yeah right just talk by coppers when it comes time to step up we as police cower under. Just once can't we stick together for the sake of our brothers and sisters.

8/19/2016 08:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fucking HORRIBLE!!!! These poor coppers didn't do shit but show up & now their fired over some fucking political agenda this dept is soooo fucked up!

8/19/2016 08:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Dean Angelo is an embarrassment!. Useless, Grandfatherly suckup! He has nobody's back on this Department. Wake up Coppers. He surrounds himself with cowards who have no intention of standing up to WHITE SHIRTS or Rahm, or the, so called activists!!!!! Dean has been significantly silent through all of our trials and tribulations. Our Union has gone to sleep at a crucial time in our history. We have nobody to rely on. We are on our own. No confidence in Grandpa Dean. Useless, coward!!!!!!!!!!!!


8/19/2016 03:00:00 AM


Please stop your election bull shit till next spring. The guy is on national news almost every day if you were paying attention. Are you signed up for the email alerts. Most of the knee jerk comments here are negated with in 36-48 hours when the true facts are found out.

8/19/2016 08:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unless he fires the 3 lying bitches too he is full of shit. You can't claim to fire cops for lying and then keep at least 3 who lied and cheated. By accepting the promotion they are guilty of a rule 14 violation.

8/19/2016 08:54:00 AM  
Anonymous #StayAliveTo55 said...


History will repeat itself if we let it. Look at the Nazi's minister of propaganda's statements:

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.

Joseph Goebbels

Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.

Joseph Goebbels

If you tell the same lie enough times, people will believe it; and the bigger the lie, the better.

Joseph Goebbels

8/19/2016 08:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More sacrifices at the altar of Rahm. Any idea who our last person is and what connections they had to who?

8/19/2016 09:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you personally know any of these officers, please reach out to them and let them know that we, their brothers and sisters in blue, have their backs. Let them know they are not alone. Keep an eye out for their mental well being. Please lets not forget them, but pass along any info on jobs that we might have connections for so they and their families don't suffer any more.
We know what we have to do to help them, so lets get started.

8/19/2016 09:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Human vision is not like that of a video camera, it is capable of much higher detail at times, moving, and zooming, however much of our vision is the mind filling in blanks for the majority of the field of view that isn't in the "laser focus" part. Hold your arm out in front of you, then hold up 2 fingers side by side, THAT is your "focus" the rest is filled in by a lifetime of experience and assumptions of what is happening in the world around you. That is one explanation of why ones truth might not be the actual truth and they wouldn't even know the difference. Magicians and politicians know this well, as should you, keep a person's focus on one thing, everything else goes unnoticed.

8/19/2016 09:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When is something going to be done about the cheating on the promotional exams. If they make Green the captain in 2 instead of firing him for theft, official misconduct, rule 14, etc there will be no more work done!

8/19/2016 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any sports fan knows that instant replay only works due to multiple camera angles. Many times one angle is completely misleading.

Not a cop and was never a big fan until St Swisher. Am truly amazed that anyone would consider Law Enforcement as a career in this environment. I could not stand in a police line for hours enduring people screaming at me from inside my personal space. The self discipline you guys display is amazing.

BC

"The goal is under video review" surely applies here. Difference is, Toronto isn't looking at it. you made an excellent point.

8/19/2016 09:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, don't be so hard on Dean...in 9 months, he was on tv twice!

8/19/2016 09:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Never in my 20 years of policing have officers been fired administratively before any criminal proceedings. Only in Crook County where you are guilty based on the liberal public opinion, hopefully Judge Gaughn can see through all of this and do the right thing.Thoughts and prayers be with the officers, Eddie you are a disgrace, it's beyond me how you can look yourself in the mirror.

8/19/2016 09:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We all know you read this blog Ed, you worthless coward piece of trash....It's amazing how all of the spineless supervisors get to retire with their six figure pensions and us lowly blue shirt grunts get thrown under the bus time and time again. You have to be insane to do anything for the collection of bosses we have right now. They are in the same category as Rahm and Obama as far as I'm concerned. They may wear police uniforms but they aren't on our side. They're our enemy, but go out there and get em guys.

One more thing spineless Ed, stop with the bullshit emails explaining why you did what you did. No one wants to hear it. You're a coward who sold his soul to the devil and everyone knows it. The sooner you retire the better off you'll be and the better off the this dept. will be.

8/19/2016 09:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you people need the Sears Tower to fall on you to wake you up ?

From this point on its only going to get worse for you guys and girls .

Now, more then ever before, you have got to push back before this shit gets way out of hand; for your personal safety and well being .

The only thing the City understands is brute force , so give them some .

On a chosen weekend , all the odd numbered districts call in sick , the next weekend all the even numbered districts do the same .

I know it's a bit radical, but at this point in time if we have no push back the heel of the City will only grind you further and further in the ground .

The old saying goes " you can't make a omelette without breaking a few eggs " I say give them so much cholesterol their livers explode and then see where standing up to this criminal regime can get us on the road to self respect .

8/19/2016 09:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THese officers got stuck with Dave's strategy and plan. They did not want to ok Dave's shit but were forced to. He is a dick. The dept is holding 7 people responsible for the fact that once again a boss was promoted totally beyond any ability the he may have had. He was left unchecked Not a problem for him.The hard working officers again holding the bag for the connected.

8/19/2016 09:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vri for September 2nd - 5th has been posted. Plenty of pos signed up. Way to stick together guys.

8/19/2016 09:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And zone 10 tonight was full of foot chases, car chases, tvb's, name checks......unbelievable.

8/19/2016 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

some of those stripped were never on the scene
screwed by MCNaughton

8/19/2016 09:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You young people should seriously consider another line of work if you have any other skills or arent married/kids, or are young enough to start again doing something more productive. Like mixing drinks at Starbucks. You might take a pay cut but you'll lead happier lives.

There isnt going to be a pension for you regardless. I'll be lucky to keep collecting in my life. And you'll see this clout bullshit time and time again until your so fucking sick of it you cant even hold your food down. The same assholes getting promoted, working part time, getting whatever cars they want, whatever inside jobs they want, whatever weekends off jobs they want, the same Bosses kids moving up even tho they are jagoffs. And when the wrecking ball is aimed at your ass for any little thing just see if they are there to help you out.

It used to be if you were just a working cop who showed up you'd be left alone and maybe get a car along with an occasional duck. Now? The more you work the more you leave yourself open to their shit and if you bring any problems with it in as well, which is bound to happen, the Bosses will shit on you to boot.

It was hard for me to tell my daughters I didnt want this job for them but I did and I even told them why. Its an unskilled clout job where the citizens have been brain fucked to hate you AND you have the added bonus of maybe getting your head blown off. Or going to jail. Or just getting fired and being out on the street. And for what? For a public sector 401K and a few blocks of ghetto to patrol where everyone has a cell cam and a lousy attitude.

8/19/2016 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Conversation at HQ is this move was all CITY HALL but done through EJ as to appear transparent in the eyes of South & West side peoples/folks. EJ is counting on the police board handing down suspensions rather than termination. Additionally, he believes this will help morale with black officers who feel marginalized on this job.
..................
Don't count on Lori Lightfoot (police board president) suspending these officers. She will fire them. She is a hater.

8/19/2016 10:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guys at the top always take care of each other first. That is just the way it is. Having to retire and take some meaningless job as a glorified security guard is not exactly a step up. But it is a lot better than being fired.

From the outside looking in it appears to me like there was some collusion that went on to try and justify the shooting after the fact. It does not seem possible to me that a bunch of cops would come up with nearly the exact same story that the video shows did not happen.

I could understand a few of them seeing things a little different. That is just human nature and the way things sometimes unfold in a chaotic situation.

It is too bad the cops involved did not have the opportunity to retire like the big shots did, but maybe they are not eligible to do so. It is going to be all but impossible to fight this kind of thing, but maybe they can win an arbitration eventually.

Video bites both ways. Coppers are going to have to wise up to that fact. In the long run it is probably good for policing in general but it is not going to be the last time it leads to this kind of thing.

NAC

8/19/2016 10:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

EJ had a good rep as a street cop. It's a shame he sold his soul to Rahm. He certainly will have trouble sleeping at night over this one.

8/19/2016 10:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep doing proactive work...idiots!

8/19/2016 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Somewhat off topic:

Why it will never happen here: From the New York Times

When Police Don’t Live in the City They Serve
African-Americans in Milwaukee worry that the elimination of a residency requirement for police officers will worsen a long-strained relationship with the community.

8/19/2016 10:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am going to keep banging my head against the wall and trying to convince everyone of you who keeps thinking the next guy will be better. The mayor is an asshole. They mayor runs the CPD. THE SUPERINTENDANT IS A FIGUREHEAD AND POLITICAL WHIPPING BOY /SUCKHOLE.

Please stop pleading for change and then championing the new guy. They all are out for themselves and you do not, and have never have figured in the equation. I told my family many years ago if I were killed in the line of duty no phony funeral with these camera mugging pretend there sorry your dead jagoffs.

This is a JOB it not and never was a career except for the connected, you are cannon fodder. Be safe,from both the physical and liable dangers as much as possible. Save the old ladies and children and let the rest go, that battle is over. This used to be a pretty good job ,you did some good things and had some laughs that's gone to the dogs.

P.S.FUCK YOU EDDIE, COWARDLY MARIONETTE SELLOUT!!!!!

8/19/2016 10:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC as usual a very good explanation and visual on what is actually seen or not seen by those viewing an event from different angles and perspectives. Any good defense attorney can explain that fact regarding eye-witnesses to any event.

However, we all know that Rahm, and his tool Special Ed have the appeasement of the Rev-runs in mind with their 'Guilty' verdict as we have seen in Westerns;

"We'll have a 'fair trial' and then we'll hang em."

8/19/2016 10:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Watch these guys get fired then Fardon's 2 year old investigation shows they did nothing wrong. But we have to placate the masses and the media instantaneously, facts be damned.

8/19/2016 10:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said:

"... Johnson took the job with the best of intentions.."

WTF are you smoking?

Special Ed knew exactly what his job would be,-- and that is to serve Rahm, do as he is told, like any good puppet,and take the big money for doing so.

Nothing more.

8/19/2016 10:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2 sergeants did nothing wrong, their names are on reports written by others, both wanted to resign if they could do so in good standing, but Johnson refused, even though the guys with the gold stars were given that option. Two sets of rules in place in CPD no doubt. Shameful example of cowardice and hypocrisy .

8/19/2016 11:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gold Stars = "Pay to Play". Kickback Scheme. Thats why they're never touched. If they stop Playing, they're bounced back to Civil Service Rank.

8/19/2016 11:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's all just another form of Communist Re-Distribution of Wealth.

8/19/2016 11:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Follow the Money.

Taxpayers more Broke

Politicians more Rich.

Wake Up and get a Clue Already.

8/19/2016 11:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Our phones are fair game now but somehow Laquan's juvenile records are a no go in court. Amazing

Have 2 phones. A good one, and a cheap theow away burner for work only.

8/19/2016 11:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scum times photo on front page said it all of anti police rhetoric. It should read failed and fallen families, fail and fallen justice system, fail and fallen broken homes, and cpd escape goat...remember know one else got blamed for McDonald's life styles and choices, or FAMILY, and a system that didn't give a sh!+ about him for years but CPD gets the pit fall of it all.

8/19/2016 11:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One of the biggest intrusions into an investigation is the Incompetent Supervisor.
There are many that are very good at what they do, but Merits are total idiots that hamper, rush and confuse many aspects of investigations because they're in he phone with somebody who thinks they know more.
Special Ed has no other choice afforded him by Rahm, fire everybody who isn't an incompetent merit supervisor.

Everybody in patrol was warned. Warned that if you are part of an incident will be interrogated like the criminal, that video if present will have to be obtained and reviewed. Aside from perspectives and fabrications, everything has to be sorted and re-examined...BUT NOT in 3 hours.

Avoiding the ghetto bullshit for a while is the only way to get past the reign of Rahm and Special Ed.
Nobody has your back. Partners and backup will now second guess involvement.
These two goofs have changed police work.
Wake up already, Don't be ProActive.

8/19/2016 11:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eddie:
You'll need to look no further than your bed mate, Lie-Tenant Fenner, for a Rule 14 violator and more.
Will she be stripped and fired?

You're a shameless political hack Eddie.
Doing Rahm's bidding and pandering to "the community"

8/19/2016 11:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Ed, Fuck You. Love, Me

8/19/2016 11:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT:

Summer Mobile does suck hairy balls for sure. However, much respect to the captain and LT there. They don't understand how easy cell phones are to track, even burner phones (associated numbers and times are linked back to you and can be used as evidence in court so don't think that's the slickest idea ever). These issues are very technical and LE keeps our capabilities limited to units dealing with such collection. However, we are being treated like criminals with no due process so I will tell you, those apps like snapchat, whatsapp, Etc. are not impenetrable. Everything, even encrypted apps are subject to penetration. They both said be careful and stay off of your phones and if this is what the department and courts is going to do, make all notifications via the radio or department phones. I'm given props to bosses that they may not like on a blog because they may be victims of retribution. If so, sorry, but I'm not about to stroke their ego in person but to hear that them caution us to apply common sense to save us from the headache of a witch hunt is admirable. Maybe some bosses on this job actually care about others. Who would've known? The sad fact is that this will not save your privacy as the court held that just being on scene was enough to conduct an invasive search of your property and life.

Point: you don't have rights. Whenever your phone or email is accessed the forensics company downloads everything you ever did, even deleted items (metadata). They're supposed to do date/subject restricted queries but they don't. If you think they aren't looking at your private pictures, videos, emails to girlfriend(s), friends, family, medical, etc. you're crazy. In a recent CPD lawsuit the judge allowed text evidence from weeks prior to an instant to be used against the officer. This is a blatant overreach of authority. FOP, constitutional/civil rights attorneys where are you?

8/19/2016 11:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

no more passes of any type for any media vehicle in this city. Hammer them all,,,let Gugliemi (sp) get them fixed

8/19/2016 11:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city better crank up the hiring. Between all the retiring and all the firing there will be no one left on the street.

8/19/2016 12:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, this is a perfect graphic. May I have permission to use it in my psychology classes? Young minds need to learn about perspective and not jumping to half-assed conclusions.

Retired cop.

8/19/2016 12:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The lunged part sucks, period. This is the problem with hair gel. The subject after showing signs of aggression (slicing police vehicle tire) acting in a menacing matter while possessing a deadly weapon, continued disobeying officers repeated orders to drop his weapon. R/O believed that if subject fled he would be a threat to others and passerby's. Subjective and unable to prove otherwise in court of malicious or predetermined police behavior.

8/19/2016 12:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Today: Chicago Police Department took aggressive action and fired seven officers.

Three years from Now: Seven Police Officers win their court battle and have been reinstated with back pay.

8/19/2016 02:10:00 AM

NO WAY !! They may sue to get back on and win, but no chance of back pay.

8/19/2016 12:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8/19/2016 02:10:00 AM

Yeah, after they've lost everything

8/19/2016 12:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...


Today: Chicago Police Department took aggressive action and fired seven officers.

Three years from Now: Seven Police Officers win their court battle and have been reinstated with back pay.

8/19/2016 02:10:00 AM

You forgot to say it'll only be reported on page 64 of the newspapers (if there are still any newspapers then) and no one will even know justice was finally served.
.

8/19/2016 12:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...


I've said it before and will repeat!! Media and blog snoopers, pay attention. Rahm and high ranking members of CPD (McCarthy included) lobserved the McDonald video the morning after the shooting. This is true and I can't imagine that it would be hard For the media to find those that were there! Rahm was upset and said this could be a disaster to my campaign. Shortly thereafter he authorized a payment of 5 million in hush money to the McDonald family. The media accidentally caught wind and wanted to know what was on the video that was commanding a 5 million dollar payout ( did we mention that no lawsuit was filed initially). Rahm taught to keep the video that he observed and paid out on sealed (does anyone really believe that Rahm would give away 5 million without seeing why?), but lost his battle. That is when the dumpings began. Media, you can't be this dumb (although Rahm thinks you guys are), dig. Do your jobs. The rating will go through the rough if you actually report instead of conceal. Dig deep into Chief Roy. It's not hard. Dig into Escalante, keep talking to McCarthy. Tell me this media, why have you not reported on incompetent people people getting promoted via a cheating scandal that ran as high as a 1st deputy. By doing this more incompetent people end up in positions of authority. All I'm saying is print ALL facts!

8/19/2016 12:39:00 AM

I'm reposting it, just in case the media missed this in their first read-through.

8/19/2016 12:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, do you really think Johnson calls the shots? I don't.

8/19/2016 01:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: This was just sent to me I don't know if you have seen it yet. It's about the Dallas Cowboys not wanting to honor fallen officers. It made ill.


https://www.facebook.com/TomiLahren/videos/1051413841618469/

8/19/2016 01:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

as someone that qualifies as an old timer (came on with Matt Rodriguez as Supe.) i and others were saying how Jodi Weis wasnt that bad and everyone was jumping down our throat. well , now look.

8/19/2016 01:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fire them all! discipline,discipline,discipline! SPARS AND C/R for everyone!

8/19/2016 01:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is why you should never ever do anything for any Supervisor. They are all about themselves, and they look out for one another. They will alert Supervisors about disaster heading their way but screw the Patrolman. Fu@#!#g Assholes! I can't wait to leave this lousy department.

8/19/2016 02:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hate Fathead Ed!

8/19/2016 02:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Johnson isn't playing with anything, this all comes from city hall all the way. Rham wants him to be the hatchet man even though it was Rham who purposely sat on the video until after the election. Now, he'll say when running fr re-election that he reformed the department. Johnson took th job with the best of intentions and walked right into the lions den. Sadly, city hall still runs the department, it just keeps changing the figure heads, meanwhile, the rank and file and city suffer.

8/19/2016 12:18:00 AM

I do not blame Johnson. His chief of staff is from the mayor's office. Rahm controls everything, I mean everything. At every staff meeting the mayor's reps are there over seeing every decision. Every promotion, transfer even classes at the academy are approved by the mayor's office. Have you noticed the mayor's reaction to the crime rate? Nothing. He uses sound bites of how shocked he is and CPD does nothing to react to this horrible rise in crime. Seriously, do you believe that Johnson made the latest promotions? The mayor approved with input from aldermen and Father Flaker.

8/19/2016 02:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Conversation at HQ is this move was all CITY HALL but done through EJ as to appear transparent in the eyes of South & West side peoples/folks. EJ is counting on the police board handing down suspensions rather than termination. Additionally, he believes this will help morale with black officers who feel marginalized on this job.

I say, lets put all African Americans (A/A) in predominately A/A districts for 36 months and gauge the results. Lets start with the "murder capitol of America" 007. Pull all white and hispanic officers and supervisors and replace with our A/A brothers in blue. This is not a dig on our A/A brothers and sisters but a dig on the community that refuses to accept responsibility for their own actions. To reward of brothers and sisters in blue, give those A/A officers a top pick to whatever district they want to go after the 36 months. STAY FETAL KIDS.

8/19/2016 05:27:00

Eddie stated numerous times that "blacks feel more comfortable speaking to other blacks" this is a great idea, not a burn to black coppers but this could be the start of something big, something that will prove eddie is finally correct! Eddie tell you what I will personally give you total pass on nakia scandal if you do this, you changed the bosses many blacks promoted but do you really believe that will change the minds of working coppers? Of course not stay fetal!

What happened in 008 yesterday, did the gestapo bring their Nazi crew to strip the coppers? What next eddie the "panderer" all your doing is making it worse for the black community by bending over and acquiescing to the lowly scum and thugs, your emboldening them eddie and to think you gave that punk your personal cell phone number and he tells you what your going to do! A leader? a man? a stooge? we report you decide eddie!

8/19/2016 02:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its time to vote to disavow the union and vote no confidence in the Superintendent and the leadership of CPD

8/19/2016 02:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...



Chicago Tribune is having a ball with this latest from Johnson.
Their same "reporters", Steve, Jeremy, Annie...
And that skanky Smitch says Police simply need to tell the truth.

They do, skank. Now tell your partners in lies to do the same!

Punitive damages are in order from these "reporters" who fail to report facts.

And God Bless and keep safe all first responders during this turmoil.

Retired, 30+

8/19/2016 02:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...



I would expect this knee jerk reaction from Tom Dart but never CPD...

But it's really Rahm, every one knows that!

8/19/2016 02:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great reporting you think its bad now please watch this video to the end, I looked it up it is true and valid and her laughing, if this was your wife/girlfriend/daughter,grandchild/friend/aunt/cousin I thought you should know:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdNHf1g4ivA

Sorry SCC this really shows you pure evil, another reason i would bet she does not support police and trump is 100% pro-police!

8/19/2016 03:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A NOBLE gesture on fat head ed's behalf.

8/19/2016 03:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-the-chicago-way-with-john-kass-20160303-story.html

Listen to that podcast by John Kass calling CNN out on selective reporting.

8/19/2016 03:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard that the superintendent plays the banjo for rahm and is a hell of a tap dancer.

8/19/2016 03:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The fucking irony...Inspector General's last name is Ferguson. Can't make this shit up...

8/19/2016 03:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boy o BOY

all AREA central violent crime sergeant sent to HQ ALL day on 2nd watch!SHHHHH secret

Heads will roll... Certain Sergent stripped calling in OLD favors from past SUPE(chubby).
certain Sergeants have delicious files regarding previous cases.

Special Ed receiving calls from Hilliard and Cline asking for clouted to be spared.
Special Ed given script by Emmanuels Office of affairs.

You didnt think you cane fire everyone did you eddie?

8/19/2016 03:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How does the video contradict he "was moving towards" Van Dyke? It doesn't. Maybe he wasn't moving in a direct line towards him, but he was walking forward and Van Dyke was in front of him.

8/19/2016 03:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I read that Austin TX is short about one hundred police officers.

8/19/2016 03:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WeeZee was seen leaving Headquarters driving a brand new white. Cadillac Escalade 2017, ILL vanity plates WeeZee

8/19/2016 03:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eddie,
I'm so tired of trying to defend you in conversations. But after you trying to fire coppers and ruin their career, followed by the worst list of promotions in my life, well fuck you. Some of these promotees couldn't play second base on a special Olympic softball team because they're so dumb!

Yes I've seen some of these "stars" at compstat and other meetings. They can't even speak the king's English.

Stop with the bullshit that you have our backs. At least be man enough and say, "listen guys, I don't have your backs. I'd like to but I'm on strict orders from the midget to fuck you over. I'm sorry, it's my bed that I made and now I have to sleep in it,". Your a good warrior and I know when the time comes you will lay on your sword like your predecessors.

8/19/2016 04:07:00 PM  
Blogger Bigbigpoopi said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Today: Chicago Police Department took aggressive action and fired seven officers.

Three years from Now: Seven Police Officers win their court battle and have been reinstated with back pay.

8/19/2016 02:10:00 AM
______________________________________________________________________________________________

AHAHAHA

They'll co-own the crumbling remains of the Daley courthouse 25 years from now

8/19/2016 04:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

F this City and Dept. let these bodies pile up!

8/19/2016 04:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you Mr. S. Adams for helping another gangster lil Durk back out to society so he can continue to commit criminal acts of violence.... Just cause there was 2 guns found in the crib on top of his multiple prior gun arrest, several times arrested for guns don't mean those 2 guns in his house were his guns, wtf riddle me this Batman....!!!! only in Crooked County can one get away with such nonsense....then they wonder why so much violence bleeds in Chicago. Kind of Make you go HUH!!!

8/19/2016 05:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

God Bless you police! Be it known there are those who truly respect you. As a county correctional officer and honorably discharged vet (USAF) I salute each of you. Take a deep breath and relax your minds. Embrace Qi Gong, Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Hapkido, Aikido, FMA, Karate, JKD or something and always take care of your health. Monitor your stress! God Bless you police!

8/19/2016 05:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I say, lets put all African Americans (A/A) in predominately A/A districts for 36 months and gauge the results. Lets start with the "murder capitol of America" 007. Pull all white and hispanic officers and supervisors and replace with our A/A brothers in blue. This is not a dig on our A/A brothers and sisters but a dig on the community that refuses to accept responsibility for their own actions. To reward of brothers and sisters in blue, give those A/A officers a top pick to whatever district they want to go after the 36 months. STAY FETAL KIDS.

I'm going where my seniority takes me , not the dam color of my skin....

8/19/2016 05:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why was McScotch never given a vote of no confidence? What about Special Ed? FOP you really do suck Rham's balls!!! Get rid of these FOP clowns ASAP!!!! Dean Angelo you need to get your act together. Enough is enough. We don't need a Mayor's minion like FOP had been demonstrating they are!!!

8/19/2016 05:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If anyone is doing anything you are absolutely crazy. It is very clear that EJ answers only to Rahm and Steve Patton the Corp Counsel. Patton is the one that lied under oath to the city council and said 8 officers were in a position to fire which is perjury. The truth will come out. He exaggerated the facts to justify the payoff to withhold the tape. The truth will come out. EJ was at the EMM and saw the video and was SO troubled he took no action. The truth will come out. JVD was not stripped immediately as they portray he was stripped 10 days after at the recommendation of Ipra. The truth will come out. No one in CPD saw anything wrong with the lawful use of force. The truth will come out. Patton was the one who decided to seek separation on all involved to cover Rahm. The truth will come out. Patton told EJ, who had no say in the decision to seek separation on all and if any officer doesn't get fired or sues and gets their job back they are going to blame it on the unions and the contract. The truth will come out. No one did anything wrong. They related what they perceived at the time and it was documented so. The truth will come out. Until then support each other and trust no one.

8/19/2016 06:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: what is going on with our country?

Refugees sue school district.

http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/dont-miss/193967339-story

8/19/2016 06:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1 year 9 month investigation to determine wrong doing by officers foo g police work . Anything new on lie ten ant scandal

8/19/2016 06:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/04/01/us/police-bodycam-video.html?_r=0

THIS IS GREAT EXAMPLE OF CAMERA ANGLES, you have to watch these.

Forward and post on SCC!

Brother in blue from out of state

8/19/2016 06:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm retired for over a year now, and I spend a lot of time my last few years monitoring cameras at OEMC. I have been asking this question ever since this alleged incident happened, but I will ask it again: was the ENTIRE video EVER shown, or is the only version ever let loose the one where the tape ABRUPTLY cuts out? I am absolutely convinced that goof got up after he was shot initially and still had the knife in his hand, thereby fulfilling the critera established in the Tueller drill of a 21 foot hot zone regarding an edged weapon. My hopeful suspicion is that is exactly the case, and the prosecution knows that if that was let out, Chicago would make Fergueson or Baltimore look like kindergarden recess. I would find it infinitely more difficult to believe that 7 or 8 other coppers would purposely lie, risking everything in their lives if JVD actually stood over goof and airaeted him.

8/19/2016 06:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess lil Dirk was not part of the 100 gang member sweep today, must have gotten heads up, since it would be bad publicity for for Mr. ADAMS!

8/19/2016 07:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good sweep on the gangster bad thing is thanks to crooked county they will be out just in time for the Labor Day holiday weekend to commit more crimes!

8/19/2016 07:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
OT: This was just sent to me I don't know if you have seen it yet. It's about the Dallas Cowboys not wanting to honor fallen officers. It made ill.


https://www.facebook.com/TomiLahren/videos/1051413841618469/

8/19/2016 01:30:00 PM


- did you watch the video? It's the Dallas Cowboys who wanted to honor the fallen officers. The NFL denied them due to a BS uniform policy.

8/19/2016 08:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8/19/2016 03:23:00 PM

Do not trust Kass. Many on this blog/police actually buy his occasional pro-police bullshit. Check his track record. Search Tribune Archives. He is VERY anti-police.

8/19/2016 08:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was a nice to have the Deputy Sup show us the 4 district videos. Is the new Deputy Sup going to explain this?

8/19/2016 08:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The point that everyone seems to be missing is the consequences of a sustained Rule 14 violation. The whack is not a long or short suspension, even a 1 day suspension.

It is that the State of Illinois decertifies you as a police officer. You are FINISHED.

The Police Board firing is an unarguable point.

8/19/2016 08:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least the PBPA sent out an email today. Very informative and very positive. These guys are thumbs up in my book. Definitely not the FOP losers. Glad to be part of the PBPA.

8/19/2016 08:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When we you guys learn. They will throw all of you under the bus to make themselves look good. Then they can say see we are listining and acting. All is well.

8/19/2016 08:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I'm retired for over a year now, and I spend a lot of time my last few years monitoring cameras at OEMC. I have been asking this question ever since this alleged incident happened, but I will ask it again: was the ENTIRE video EVER shown, or is the only version ever let loose the one where the tape ABRUPTLY cuts out? I am absolutely convinced that goof got up after he was shot initially and still had the knife in his hand, thereby fulfilling the critera established in the Tueller drill of a 21 foot hot zone regarding an edged weapon. My hopeful suspicion is that is exactly the case, and the prosecution knows that if that was let out, Chicago would make Fergueson or Baltimore look like kindergarden recess. I would find it infinitely more difficult to believe that 7 or 8 other coppers would purposely lie, risking everything in their lives if JVD actually stood over goof and airaeted him.

8/19/2016 06:44:00 PM

_________

It is good that you retired you are too dangerous to yourself. Stay off the crack. If your version is correct, then that would work in favor of the police officer. Also, was your version written in the reports? If it was, and the videos supports it, then it is hard to argue that the officers committed perjury.

8/19/2016 09:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...


I read that Austin TX is short about one hundred police officers.

8/19/2016 03:54:00 PM

Great -hipster heaven.

8/19/2016 10:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...


Hey, don't be so hard on Dean...in 9 months, he was on tv twice!

8/19/2016 09:30:00 AM

He's been on tv a lot more than that. I'm not apologizing for what he said or how he said it, but your statement is false.

8/19/2016 10:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I say, lets put all African Americans (A/A) in predominately A/A districts for 36 months and gauge the results. Lets start with the "murder capitol of America" 007. Pull all white and hispanic officers and supervisors and replace with our A/A brothers in blue. This is not a dig on our A/A brothers and sisters but a dig on the community that refuses to accept responsibility for their own actions. To reward of brothers and sisters in blue, give those A/A officers a top pick to whatever district they want to go after the 36 months. STAY FETAL KIDS.

I'm going where my seniority takes me , not the dam color of my skin....

8/19/2016 05:38:00 PM

Amen and 10-4!
Fuck this race-baiting dumbshit.
Police lives and careers are at stake.

Be Blue.
Be True.

Or go the fuck home...

Too many self-serving m/fers on this job.

Stick together or they will pick you off
and lynch you separately in front of your
families, friends and loved ones.

World turned face down, ass-backwards and gone
stark raving mad when we're compelled to give
a shit head on the street more decency than
the powers-that-be think we're due.

Shit...
A Copper dangling from every lamp-post won't
be enough according to the m/fers stirring
the Police-Hate pot.

"Y'all gots to pay for oppressin' us!"

8/19/2016 10:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stay very Fetal in these times. Get extra pens and just write reports

8/19/2016 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 8/19/2016 09:18:00 PM

Your comment is way too harsh. The entire videos have never been shown in their entirety to the public. Nor have they yet been subjected to competent analysis. Just like the Rodney King videos. The news media cuts and edits them to give them drama.

I may have called Rahm a no-good rat-faced slimy cs'er in the past.

I'm sorry.

I was way too kind.

8/19/2016 11:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our phones are fair game now but somehow Laquan's juvenile records are a no go in court. Amazing

Have 2 phones. A good one, and a cheap theow away burner for work only.

8/19/2016 11:29:00 AM


----------------

Ahh. . . No Kid.

If you tell the powers to be you have only one "burner" phone and they find out there is a second phone . . you will be on the "shit list" of former coppers nailed on a Rule 14 violation.

~ Your Sergeant.

8/19/2016 11:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember this, Sorry, I didn't see nothing!

8/20/2016 07:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I knew people would sign up for VRI over Labor Day. This is the problem with coppers on this job. Nobody sticks together. One thing I can say is that the BLM movement sticks together but we don't. Guys will still run and gun and get those contact cards and scratch out their parkers and movers not to lose their beat car.

8/20/2016 08:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...



Previous poster says...

"...I am absolutely convinced that goof got up after he was shot initially and still had the knife in his hand, thereby fulfilling the critera established in the Tueller drill of a 21 foot hot zone regarding an edged weapon..."


So you're convinced? A factual basis for this, please or simply speculation?
I doubt the defense would keep a lid on this at the expense of the sheer torment JVD is going through but if that's the case...Brilliant!
How absolutely amazing this would be!

So, when will the ENTIRE dash cam video be released?


8/20/2016 09:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Every district should print and post the the names of all the RATS who are working any supplemental Sept 2nd-Sept 5th.

8/20/2016 11:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Conversation at HQ is this move was all CITY HALL but done through EJ as to appear transparent in the eyes of South & West side peoples/folks. EJ is counting on the police board handing down suspensions rather than termination. Additionally, he believes this will help morale with black officers who feel marginalized on this job.

I say, lets put all African Americans (A/A) in predominately A/A districts for 36 months and gauge the results. Lets start with the "murder capitol of America" 007. Pull all white and hispanic officers and supervisors and replace with our A/A brothers in blue. This is not a dig on our A/A brothers and sisters but a dig on the community that refuses to accept responsibility for their own actions. To reward of brothers and sisters in blue, give those A/A officers a top pick to whatever district they want to go after the 36 months. STAY FETAL KIDS.

8/19/2016 05:27:00 AM
Eddi said numerous times "people of color feel more comfortable talking and relating to their own people" now Eddie the bullshit stops try the above experiment with all the murdered and maimed a new "strategic decision" needs to be implemented immediately! "Got balls?"

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A lot of the The Sup, 1st, all the Chiefs and Commanders are afraid to voice their opinions because they are all "YES MEN AND WOMEN". Most are incompetent too. The city has way too many supervisors. They need to replace them with people who know how to do the job! Barbara WEST for example was great at sleeping in 012. She bragged about the nice neck pillow she had. She was a complete dog and now she is a Chief!

8/20/2016 01:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember hillary Clinton when they ask you for your possessions, don't be a pushy and give them shut. You can take my good phone, there's nothing on it. I'll still give you he'll trying to get. I might lose it, replace it, forget it, I'm not a lapdog who gives in to all the Bulls hit. Hillary can have all the classified emails on her phone but we give in to some ass hole from this department . Bulls hit. I will make you go through he'll like Clinton does. She set the president.

8/20/2016 01:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our phones are fair game now but somehow Laquan's juvenile records are a no go in court. Amazing

Have 2 phones. A good one, and a cheap theow away burner for work only.

8/19/2016 11:29:00 AM


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Ahh. . . No Kid.

If you tell the powers to be you have only one "burner" phone and they find out there is a second phone . . you will be on the "shit list" of former coppers nailed on a Rule 14 violation.

~ Your Sergeant.
make that your "merit sergeant" white shirts at 1 time were respected now who really cares?

8/20/2016 03:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone think that Rahm knew about the lieutenant cheating scandal that is why he hand picked Johnson and disregarded the other candidates. Rahm tells Johnson "I know you didn't apply for the job but fuck you either you do as I say or you and all your cheating lieutenants will be fired".

8/19/2016 02:43:00 AM

DUH!

8/20/2016 04:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If anyone is doing anything you are absolutely crazy. It is very clear that EJ answers only to Rahm and Steve Patton the Corp Counsel. Patton is the one that lied under oath to the city council and said 8 officers were in a position to fire which is perjury. The truth will come out. He exaggerated the facts to justify the payoff to withhold the tape. The truth will come out. EJ was at the EMM and saw the video and was SO troubled he took no action. The truth will come out. JVD was not stripped immediately as they portray he was stripped 10 days after at the recommendation of Ipra. The truth will come out. No one in CPD saw anything wrong with the lawful use of force. The truth will come out. Patton was the one who decided to seek separation on all involved to cover Rahm. The truth will come out. Patton told EJ, who had no say in the decision to seek separation on all and if any officer doesn't get fired or sues and gets their job back they are going to blame it on the unions and the contract. The truth will come out. No one did anything wrong. They related what they perceived at the time and it was documented so. The truth will come out. Until then support each other and trust no one.

8/19/2016 06:05:00 PM

Repeating the same thing over and over again doesn't give it more meaning. It just makes you sound like a fucking annoying moron. You're posting on a blog, not speaking at a protest.

8/22/2016 01:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lots of comments about how bullsgit this all is but does anyone making those comments even know in detail what the EXACT statements were? I'm guessing not.

8/25/2016 08:55:00 PM  

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