Sunday, August 21, 2016

SSL Fails

  • Struggling to reduce its high murder rate, the city of Chicago has become an incubator for experimental policing techniques. Community policing, stop and frisk, "interruption" tactics — the city has tried many strategies. Perhaps most controversial and promising has been the city’s futuristic "heat list" — an algorithm-generated list identifying people most likely to be involved in a shooting.

    The hope was that the list would allow police to provide social services to people in danger, while also preventing likely shooters from picking up a gun. But a new report from the RAND Corporation shows nothing of the sort has happened. Instead, it indicates that the list is, at best, not even as effective as a most wanted list. At worst, it unnecessarily targets people for police attention, creating a new form of profiling.
Profiling?! Profiling??? We can't have that!

In the defense of the eggheads, we don't think the "heat list" was intended to prevent murders. But it was twisted to that end. It was nothing a dedicated and intelligent officer didn't do back in the day - know the players, know the game. Some of the best coppers we knew had networks of snitches, knew who was due for a violation, and kept track of the bangers so closely, they knew when someone's grandma was in the hospital - and they made sure they asked after her, too.

Then the gangs fractured. The old order went to jail and the young kids started running out of control. The city disbanded the gang unit and it got too complicated for single specialists to keep track of twenty different splinter groups. This "heat list" is just the natural outgrowth of trying to do more with less and calling it "efficiency."

It might have been efficient, too - if they left it alone. But they didn't.
  • CPD wasn’t shy about touting the importance of the list, later rebranded as the Strategic Subjects List, or SSL. In 2014, the CPD official in charge of the program, Commander Jonathan Lewin, told The Verge: "This will inform police departments around the country and around the world on how best to utilize predictive policing to solve problems. This is about saving lives."

    But the study from RAND, which was granted extraordinary access to CPD when it launched the list in 2013, found that the program has saved no lives at all. The RAND researchers were allowed to view the list, sit in on internal meetings, and generally observe how the tool was being used. They discovered that CPD wasn’t using the list as a way to provide social services; instead, CPD was using it as a way to target people for arrest.

    "The individuals on the SSL were considered to be ‘persons of interest’ to the CPD," according to the report. "Overall ...there was no practical direction about what to do with individuals on the SSL, little executive or administrative attention paid to the pilot, and little to no follow-up with district commanders."
How many people got promoted exploiting this "heat list"? More than a few.

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96 Comments:

Blogger MTS said...

An algorithm? Now that's some funny shit. "Minority Report" coming. Who needs a fucking algorithm to know who the next MoFo is?

8/21/2016 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trying to substitute tech for old fashioned police work doesn't work.

8/21/2016 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What names go on this mentor list?
Caluris
Huberman
Lewin
Weiss
McCarthy

let's make it up as we go along, While we increase our pensions.

8/21/2016 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can the computers predict who will cheat on exams and get promoted over more qualified people? I can.

8/21/2016 01:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know the social services idea could work...

First day. "Hey Ray ray, heard you are on a list. Lots of people here in the City of Chicago Social Services are worried about you. We want you to be safe. What can we do to help?"

Second day. "Ray ray, good to see you again, still above ground. You know there is a lot we can do, working with you. The City has these training programs, and jobs programs. Want some help signing up? We really care about you. Did you hear about your buddy, Ice? Too bad, dying/ getting shot/ sentenced to how many years, all while that young.

Third day. "Ray ray, we really want you to succeed, but you know the computer says it ain't good." "Maybe this nice Police Lieutenant will keep stopping by, making sure you stay safe."

Repeat for the first two to three weeks.

Then, "Ray Ray, dawg you look a little distressed. What feeling nervous? Maybe you need a little vaca?"

A little later, "Guess what? We have a deal for you, you know how you wanted a vacation? We have these one way tickets to LA/ Miami/ NYC... Don't you have family out there? Here's some traveling money, been nice knowing you." "Those warrants? Why would Chicago or Cook County extradite you? I bet if you stayed out of state, you won't have to worry!"

8/21/2016 01:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city likes to invest in bullshit like computer analytics and algorithms.

8/21/2016 02:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"In the defense of the eggheads, we don't think the "heat list" was intended to prevent murders."

It probably wasn't, but in this politically correct, fuzzy wuzzy, world you cannot tell our kind hearted bleeding heart leaders that you are making a list of bad people. They still don't understand why locking up criminals reduces crime, just ask Fox Butterfield and the New York Times.

And with many of the listed, it is a matter of time, will they shoot someone, or will someone shoot them first?

8/21/2016 02:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has anyone ever posted the names on the lists?

8/21/2016 02:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic- what the hell is a unit 714??

8/21/2016 02:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gallons upon Gallons of lube and Dep chief juice wasted on a failed experiment thank god my "Wire" is almost up and it will inter-something with caboodle OH bong! We can always play 3 degrees of association twister.

8/21/2016 03:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Basically they're saying Lewin is a useless, way over promoted goof, who never misses an opportunity to toot his own horn.

8/21/2016 03:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Time for you to leave, Lewin.

8/21/2016 05:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

criminal profiling. That is what police have done since the day policing was invented. but now in the year 2017 it has become taboo to profile criminal behavior patterns. We are so politically correct and sensitive. - and so fucked. ( I'm talking about criminal behavior profiling. NOT racial for you 1/2 wits.)

8/21/2016 05:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That is why CPD is a joke . Just spend more money and what do we get NOTHiNG

8/21/2016 05:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can I get my 30 minutes?

8/21/2016 06:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This was just another failed strategy by fired McCarthy and his friend Chief Robert(I'll quit before i get fired) Tracy,Hey Bobby.i think comstat is GONE!!!! hahahaha

8/21/2016 06:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Incubator for experimental policing techniques..."

We don our white lab coats, raise a test tube towards the light and squint at it...

"Algorithm-generated...predictive policing...executive or administrative attention paid to the pilot..."

God, the suffocating jargon.

"Trying to do more with less and calling it 'efficiency.'"

How the f__k are we "doing more with less" as both taxes and shootings skyrocket?

...but money was found to hit off the RAND Corporation to send more guys in lab coats to tell the city that it wasn't getting anywhere.

You can hear that every day for free, right here.

8/21/2016 06:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And you identify career shit birds. Then what?

8/21/2016 06:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Include in that Custom Notifications and Call-Ins. Worth a try, but have done nothing to justify the huge amount of time and energy that goes into it. Except if you were getting Federal $ to run it.

8/21/2016 07:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought Barb West was supposed to visit their homes and tell them to stop? You mean that is not working? Why did she get promoted then? That's right it was all those quality arrests in her background. That's what's wrong with this department in a nut shell, and they just promoted more of the same. The Titanic stood a better chance. RIP CPD

8/21/2016 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please note, I am not criticizing simply to criticize. However, Lewin and this concept border on something out of the Third Reich, because it "Targets" specific people; and then What? Do we round them up and send them to "Camps"? Assuming we really can predict when they will do what We presume they will do. One of Lewin's officers visited a community college and lectured on this, including how this strategy works effectively in Iraq in tracking Insurgents. Dude; this is not Iraq, though at times politicians and locals equate CPD to an Occupation Force in Da Hood. Mookie, Pookie, Flaco, and Psycho are Democrat Votes, even if here illegally! The reality is: We must afford these potential criminals every form of U.S. Constitutional protection, including, no matter what:"DUE PROCESS IN THE FORM OF A "PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE." Even if you committed a crime, you are Not Guilty, until adjudicated and declared Guilty by a court. Also note, that if this System works, how did a full fledged military entity like ISIS emerge, right under Obama and Hillary's noses? I am describing a Full Size Army, complete with artillery, armored vehicles and tens of thousands of troops, with a full logistical component to support this army! This was created and tactically deployed, while some U.S. military genius was doing Algorithms? Then the House Mouse who gave the lecture implied that he was pissed because he had been hiding at headquarters for almost a decade and had not yet been promoted to Detective or Sergeant as if Da Job is Legit! Finally, isn't Lewin the genius who started out predicting how many people would go to certain restaurants, before he was "Discovered" and shot up through our ranks? Somebody needs to explain: Mookie ain't making reservations for those fancy French restaurants Rahm likes to visit! Stay Fetal, Rahm's Chicago Values, Avoid being Pro-Active; Nobody has your back. Baby"G"

8/21/2016 08:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's nothing the police or anyone can do. They have been killing each other from the start. Just look at the murder rate for the last 50 years. All kinds of tactics have been used over the years. Nothing works. There is no answer, it's up to them to stop or it will just continue on.

8/21/2016 08:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lewin trying to oversell his nonsense. My two cents: Lewin should never have been allowed to run the Department's I.T. section. He learned on the job and now he is over reaching in his pedaling his programs and over starting them.

If we had paid a professional from the beginning, the Department would e miles ahead and the overstating agenda wouldn't be an issue.


8/21/2016 08:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are several top CPD people who have challenged the efficacy of the SSL. Eddie knows...

8/21/2016 08:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

bet the aclu types are licking their chops over this.

8/21/2016 08:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The regular cop in the districts wasn't using the SSL to target anyone. Most didn't even know what the fuck SSL was. How exactly can you target someone just using their SSL number? You don't know what gave them a high number unless you look further into their arrest history, and you don't need the SSL for that. Were bosses in units telling their guys to target those with high SSL numbers? Seems like a misuse of the list, and ineffective at best. I'll save any future researchers some time and expense. There is no list that will prevent someone from shooting or being shot, unless it's an inmate list. Nobody shoots or gets shot in prison.

CPD shouldn't be providing social services. CPD is a law enforcement organization. There are plenty of social service organizations.

As for the "profiling," that's just a buzzword they decided to use to jump on the "racist police" bandwagon. "Profiling" someone by suggesting they're more likely to be involved in either end of a shooting, using their history of violent crimes, drug crimes, gang membership, being a victim of a violent crime, and other such factors, isn't profiling. It's called common sense. They just had a computer program compile all that shit together and assign a score. Strangely enough though, most of the people with high scores tend to be black males. I wonder why that is. Maybe because they're responsible for the bulk of violent crimes. Let's just call it profiling and assume it's racist though. Why admit the real problem?

8/21/2016 08:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They main problem with the "List" compilation is that it is created by members of the department who NEVER were actual working police officers on the street. Lewin has been a house mouse his whole career, impressing the uneducated, computer illiterate bosses with his computer skills, which amounts to nothing more than smoke and mirrors, because Lewin's computer skills are no better than my eleven-year-old daughter's computer skills. Predictive Policing, in and of itself, is comical. Yet, over the years Lewin has found his niche by suggesting implausible computer based policing to the morons who run this department, who react to Lewin's computer based ideas like cavemen looking at the wheel for the first time. Unfortunately, all of Lewin's proposals and computer based policing programs are nothing more than simple databases containing the names and addresses of the numerous assholes who inhabit Chicago. But to the morons who run the Chicago Police Department this is the "future" of policing........Good Luck

8/21/2016 09:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone hear if Internal affairs opened a Rule 14 investigation into department messaging that announced retirements of exempts investigated by Inspector General's Office ? Looks bad for anyone involved with messaging.

8/21/2016 09:20:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

Instead of SSL, the list should be renamed the AMF list.

8/21/2016 09:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Could SCC assemble a predictive CPD clout list, ranking those about to receive promotion assistance and special hide-me assignments based on DNA and/or oral skills?

8/21/2016 09:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To that end, RAND is pointing out the social service component that the big D democratic party narrative espouses. That being more money to the connected companies that provide bull-shit social services that don't work.

Remember it's all in the illusionary promotion of it's "for the children."

Enough already, vote Trump and stop providing education, medical, braces, food, and shelter for illogical criminals.

America

8/21/2016 10:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I totally get it now, once all of the people / folks on the SSL list are dead or in jail the rampant murders will stop, it's just a select few causing all of the ruckus, upper 70's and dry all week, try and get some sleep Ed, your gonna need it. Only 39 to 500.

8/21/2016 10:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good old fashioned policing worked . Since that is a thing if the past the bangers just laugh at us.

8/21/2016 10:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off topic- what the hell is a unit 714??

8/21/2016 02:49:00 AM

Summer Mobile ( not really summer mobile but that's what unit is called)

8/21/2016 10:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Finally, isn't Lewin the genius who started out predicting how many people would go to certain restaurants, before he was "Discovered" and shot up through our ranks? Somebody needs to explain: Mookie ain't making reservations for those fancy French restaurants Rahm likes to visit! Stay Fetal, Rahm's Chicago Values, Avoid being Pro-Active; Nobody has your back. Baby"G"

8/21/2016 08:20:00 AM

No, that was Goldstein. Lewin takes credit for ICAM. Was a legit/sorta sergeant made in 1996.

8/21/2016 10:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

714 = Summer Mobile Unit

8/21/2016 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was BS from the beginning. Never knew anything about a SSL score that had been in existence for 3 months and I was the tact Sgt.
Poor, improper training and communication I'm the department half

8/21/2016 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As long as people are dependent on the Government they will kill each other for no reason,Edison Park VS Engelwood.

8/21/2016 11:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

bet the aclu types are licking their chops over this.

8/21/2016 08:30:00 AM

They must have said something since we don't add SSL to the arrest report anymore!

8/21/2016 11:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm so got damn glad that Kevin Johnson is leaving 005th Dist
That dude fucked up the moral so damn bad. He ain't shit, he's a snake, back stabber, phony, liar, and is hustling his way to the top.He will shit on you and take care of the dog asses.
FUCK HIM WITH THE DEVILS SHIT

8/21/2016 11:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic- what the hell is a unit 714??
8/21/2016 02:49:00 AM

Ghetto mobile

8/21/2016 11:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My friend at M.I.T. did the numbers. She concluded that if we make 147,342 more arrests this month we can keep the homicide rate under 600 this year.

8/21/2016 11:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC,

thank you for this great blog. I'm not a cop, but i find it very interesting to read.

keep up the great work. i know it has to be tough dealing with city hall types, gangs, and the media.

stay strong, stay united, and watch each others backs, minus the boss's

God bless you all.

8/21/2016 11:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I stated this before and will repeat- if judging human (?) behavior was just a matter of algorithms, then those involved should quit the job and trade the stock or futures markets.

8/21/2016 12:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The same effect happened in the Middle East when Sadaam and Khadfy were eliminated.
Only 1500 junior varsity (JV) thugs can't be held accountable and rounded up, it's a similar example that Democrats are failed leaders, as is Rahm Emanuel and his latest hatchetman and sock puppet Eddie Johnson.
It doesn't take a lengthy study, algorithm or crystal ball to crack down on crime and penalize criminals as the laws were intended.
Eliminating Democrats is the first step in returning to a civil society. Eliminating Gold Star Merit Repeaters also, who continue to feed the public liberal backed crime solution theories.
You can't have law and order when the criminals are let free without penalty.

Staying fetal, blinders on and letting the City crumple - you didn't build that credo, Rahm did.

Stay out of ghetto affairs and let the government deal with it, one day the good folks will figure it out.

8/21/2016 12:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT- Eddies case against the railroaded 7 is unraveling faster than tiny dancer's ballerina corset laces when his bitch Eddie shows up at the mayor's office at City Hall. Eddie will be the first witness called by FOP lawyers to testify for the defence because Eddie had already indicated the shooting was justified. So now 9.5 has to decide to either work out a deal with the FOP or fire his brand new hand picked guy. It would be funny how dumb this guy is if it wasn't for the lives of good people he's messing with.

8/21/2016 12:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Take that list and wipe your rear with it and stop the house visits and quit wasting man power and gas because if you goofs think this is stopping the shootings then you still believe in Santa Claus. I was on the job for 4 decades and when I came on there were 800- 1000 murders a year for 20 years and no one gave a crap.Let them go at each other and save the energy because they don't want us there anyway.Enough of the new strategies because none of them have worked. Its all B/S giving the no nothing citizens a false sense of security while viewing their i phones and pads.Stay Fetal and employed.

8/21/2016 01:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shooting at a moving vehicle??? State police made it look sexy!!!nice job.

8/21/2016 01:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
This was just another failed strategy by fired McCarthy and his friend Chief Robert(I'll quit before i get fired) Tracy,Hey Bobby.i think comstat is GONE!!!! hahahaha
8/21/2016 06:38:00 AM

Failed? Yes, according to the RAND Corp.But, McCarthy did not dream this tactic up. Other cities have been using these computer generated lists for a few years before it came here. But, to my knowledge, no city program other then Chicago was made the object of a study. In fact, there have been articles in criminology trade journals touting this strategy.

8/21/2016 01:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic- what the hell is a unit 714??

++++

Summer mobile is 714. You know, that thing some of us volunteered for so we could work the beaches all summer?

8/21/2016 01:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe it should be released to the families of those whose names are on the list, so that they can better plan for their loved one's funerals.

8/21/2016 01:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can I just tell people I work for the railroad? I mean, every day it seems like a train size di*k is rammed up the ass of multiple officers anyways so it's kind of a fitting title.

8/21/2016 01:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

714 summer mobile baby lol

8/21/2016 02:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What names go on this mentor list?
Caluris
Huberman
Lewin
Weiss
McCarthy

3 down...2 to go

8/21/2016 02:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just another public relations scheme

8/21/2016 02:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought Barb West was supposed to visit their homes and tell them to stop? You mean that is not working? Why did she get promoted then? That's right it was all those quality arrests in her background. That's what's wrong with this department in a nut shell, and they just promoted more of the same. The Titanic stood a better chance. RIP CPD

8/21/2016 07:54:00 AM
Barb "the pillow" west just another major thing wrong with once proud, once respected cpd! Was at academy the other day qualifying and walking to range by south staircase big picture "does your appearance command respect?" Looking around at the pathetic gold star crew the answer is no! many cannot put together a coherent sentence, much less look "respectful!" Eddie does this make you "uncomfortable?" So eddie you moved the same clowns around, gave trhem huge raises, they accomplished nothing and now will accomplish double nothing! Eddie when you take over a company say like in business a CEO (The boss that you pretend to be), has a massive "reorganization" by doing this they dump the people that don't produce like how many you shuffled around! Eddie at 1 time you were great, now rahm and his crew are pulling your strings and that gold star club, they are laughing behind your back and that is truth!

8/21/2016 03:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Computers? What have computers ever done? That's just nerd stuff.

Signed,

A 1983 cop who just realized the cell phone he takes with him on duty could be searched and the contents used against him.

8/21/2016 03:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Build a Wall on the Border. Many less Drugs easily smuggled in. Less drug money to fuel Gang Rivalry over the Drug Trade.

Less Democrat and RINO Politicians equals less Murder, Shootings, and Crime

Trump/Pence 2016
Semper Fi

8/21/2016 03:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"In the defense of the eggheads, we don't think the "heat list" was intended to prevent murders. But it was twisted to that end. It was nothing a dedicated and intelligent officer didn't do back in the day - know the players, know the game..."

You must be mellowing with age SCC...
😤🙃🙄
Just funnin' ya, but if you don't mind, allow
US to play the role of the irate oldster
yelling and shaking his fist out the window
as he rolls by in the fast and ugly '61 Fury...

Algorithms.
Predictive Analytics.
Comp-Stat.
Propeller-Beanie wearing,
clouted up the clay-pipe I.T. Whiz-Kids
being screwed into/out of CPD exempt positions.

Beancounter-ism.
Bullshit.
Artifice.
"Busy-ness."

"Sticking It In The Cops
(and the taxpayers ) Ear,"
as justification for the
current mantra of doing
more with less.

Never you mind what your lyin' eyes are
seeing... That's what the m/fers in charge are saying.

Elephant In The Room says:
There never was or will ever be a business model
that can be overlaid on something as bloody,
ghastly, messy and totally unpredictable as
Policing.

Especially in a Liberal/Progressive Democrat
Slave Plantation chock-full of a Perpetually Aggrieved,
Willfully Ignorant, Joyously Hateful, Wantonly Violent
and Destructive majority voting bloc.

Said voting bloc is used as a
political weapon to keep the few remaining upright
and legitimate contributors from ever being able to
retake control of this city ever again.

...At least by the established and socially acceptable
non-violent means.

Rightfully aggrieved men have taken up weapons
and resorted to bloodshed to correct lesser
outrages than have been inflicted by the likes
of Daley Inc. and Rahm & Co.

Rant:
On/(OFF)

8/21/2016 03:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lewin is a self promoting tool.

8/21/2016 03:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Make all lists you want there still going to kill each other over social media or other Juvenile bs

8/21/2016 03:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Can the computers predict who will cheat on exams and get promoted over more qualified people? I can.

8/21/2016 01:12:00 AM

Weezy, Weezy, Weezy!

8/21/2016 04:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The sergeants job is to ensure a proper preliminary investigation is completed, not "see detectives supp." That gives an implied approval to anything in the detectives supp which puts him right in the trick bag. I realize that multiple reports increase the probability that there will be some inconsistencies between them, but it is the job of the detective to address any issue with the initial case report.


Either you're retired or haven't brushed up on your orders. " see detectives supp" is what the order says to write. They got away from paper cars writing an actual narrative due to many conflicting reports in court. That went into effect 7-8 years ago. Plus it does Not put the paper car in a truck bag. Quite the opposite. The days of the paper car writing a narrative on police involved shootings is long gone.

8/21/2016 04:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tracking and developing gang hierarchy is essential for good policing. But should only be done by people who know what to do with the information and kept fairly quiet.

8/21/2016 05:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mike Lappe. Your useless if you never call out these people retiring with these gold-braid pensions. For a guy that cares so much why do you never go after the bosses pensions. Your a weasel and I bet you got picked on as a child.

8/21/2016 05:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The sergeants job is to ensure a proper preliminary investigation is completed, not "see detectives supp." That gives an implied approval to anything in the detectives supp which puts him right in the trick bag. I realize that multiple reports increase the probability that there will be some inconsistencies between them, but it is the job of the detective to address any issue with the initial case report.


Either you're retired or haven't brushed up on your orders. " see detectives supp" is what the order says to write. They got away from paper cars writing an actual narrative due to many conflicting reports in court. That went into effect 7-8 years ago. Plus it does Not put the paper car in a truck bag. Quite the opposite. The days of the paper car writing a narrative on police involved shootings is long gone.

8/21/2016 04:21:00 PM

The OP must not realize that a Detective supp also has a Sgts signature on it, a different Sgt.

When a Sgt signs a report they are simply approving the report for being done correct(boxes fill out, correct ucr, etc..

8/21/2016 05:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about stop spending money on useless shit and hiring about 3,000 cops over the next year.

But who do you have left to train them?

8/21/2016 05:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"Incubator for experimental policing techniques..."

We don our white lab coats, raise a test tube towards the light and squint at it...

"Algorithm-generated...predictive policing...executive or administrative attention paid to the pilot..."

God, the suffocating jargon.

"Trying to do more with less and calling it 'efficiency.'"

How the f__k are we "doing more with less" as both taxes and shootings skyrocket?

...but money was found to hit off the RAND Corporation to send more guys in lab coats to tell the city that it wasn't getting anywhere.

You can hear that every day for free, right here.

8/21/2016 06:42:00 AM


Naw maaaannnn...

More like blinking into the eye-piece of a microscope...

"Huh? WTF?
AAIIEEEE!"

>Falls back screaming, rolling on the floor, crying
and blindly flailing your fists at the magnified
ugly shit doing very ugly things under that slide...<

"SWEET JAYZUS!
EEEYAAAHHH!"

>Stumbles over to "BREAK GLASS IN CASE OF EMERGENCY"
panel...<

Joke's on everybody.
The whole damned thing is rigged.
No help is coming no matter how
frantically the big red button
is banged.

Daly Inc. and Rahm & Co.
laughs up their sleeves at
everyone who isn't them.

Try to fight/get the fuck out of the way?

Or just stand there with the seat of your pants
full to overflowing while laughing & crying crazily as
whatever the fuck is coming overruns you.

>Slim Pickens riding that hellish big
and nasty nuke to detonation in
"Dr. Strangelove."<


8/21/2016 05:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Either you're retired or haven't brushed up on your orders. " see detectives supp" is what the order says to write. They got away from paper cars writing an actual narrative due to many conflicting reports in court. That went into effect 7-8 years ago. Plus it does Not put the paper car in a truck bag. Quite the opposite. The days of the paper car writing a narrative on police involved shootings is long gone.
8/21/2016 04:21:00 PM

yes I heard this. I also heard that any units on the scene do not write supps anymore, relying on detectives notes.

8/21/2016 05:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The gangs are assisted by corrupt politicians such as Cong Danny Davis, his wife and some of her church members, Cong Bobby Rush and executives from corrupt and nuisance businesses. Arrest the members of the "super gang- The Hoodlums aka: The Hoboes and charge Danny and the rest with obstruction of justice and crime will go down as will shootings. The super gang is flooding black communities with guns and provoking shootings by playing both ends against the middle when robbing and sex trafficking. However, the cops have put some fear in these cowards as they appear to spend most of their time hiding out on Warren and Ashland and spending less time in North Lawndale and other areas on the west side and south side.

8/21/2016 05:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How is all this working out for them. There is more lawlessness than ever. They are shooting up the town and painting it with red blood.

8/21/2016 06:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just tell people you're an ice cream man; all flavors and push ups too.

8/21/2016 06:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Different topic but do you think the ISP throws these troopers under the bus? http://wgntv.com/2016/08/21/police-shoot-teen-in-stolen-car-in-south-loop/

8/21/2016 06:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone know if Barb West requested a case report for her stolen pillow, that was Canadian goose filled, when she left it in the wagon on midnights?

8/21/2016 06:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Holy shit Eddie is F$&&@d! Sworn testimony from multiple sources that Superintendent Johnson as Deputy Chief determined after viewing the video Van Dyke was justified. Either Eddie fires himself or this just went off the rails.

8/21/2016 06:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You haven't even heard the best part of all yet. Commander Jonathan Lewin has been named CPD officer of the Year by the Shomrim Society. I guess he's just done such a bang up (no pun intended) job reducing homicides with his stupid algorithms that he must've been hand picked for this award because nobody else was even nominated. The bigger the failure you are on this department, the higher up you get promoted and the more recognition you get for such outstanding service. What a crock of shit!

8/21/2016 07:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Was driving into Chicago down I-55 today around 1400 hours, got by bridge just east of 294 on 55 people up-top, with trump signs, many American flags (the only flag that ever should be allowed to fly in AMERICA), and a huge sign saying "Hillery mouth was not big enough to handle bill so he went elsewhere" Looking Like Trump who has a +4 point lead nationwide as of now can take that office! He is pro-police and pro_America and said the other night to the rioters live in Milwaukee "Folks this lawlessness here will not be allowed under a trump administration,aint gonna happen"

Then he went on to talk to the black community who have a 58% unemployment rate, and trying to explain to their top people how the democrats have allowed this,and how a Trump presidency will help any American with jobs which will restore pride!

8/21/2016 08:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And in other news the cover of the Slum Times says too many in the "community" are being arrested for weed, and that it's smoked equally across all races.

I'm sure it is, but when you stand 10 deep under a POD smoking dope, what do you think is going to happen? or cruise around 4 deep in your hooptie with the windows down ? Joe doesn't care about breaking the law on the public way. I can go at least 2 miles any direction in my "neighborhood" and not find 10 people standing on one corner doing anything; especially at 0200. Hey media, do you ever drive around "commmunities" and then "neighborhoods" and see the lifestyle differences? Maybe this has something to do with arrest rates, but the truth wouldn't bash the police or sell papers.

8/21/2016 08:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Article in Sun-Times said more officers are losing their job when going before Police Board. Firing Officers for petty stuff.

Keep up all the hard work, hard chargers. I'm on brake.

8/21/2016 08:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ferguson may well be well meaning, but he does not know what the hell he is doing when it comes to police procedures and orders.....as far as Levin....how about employing a nerd who couldn't find a crook in Cook County Jail, to employ some college computerized program to "forecast" crime.....are they kidding?......take those college kids and drive them through Englewood, or the West Side, and then ask them how their computers will predict and solve problems.....what a joke

8/21/2016 08:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scc you have the power. This is disgraceful the coppers getting canned for the vd situation. This hit home. Please do something I'm begging you to whatever it is. By keep putting a thread up everyday or what ever you have to do . You haven't he power is little man doesn't. This is a disgrace you don't know how the Sgt of area central violent crime sis feeling. We all have to stick together. Pray for each other. I'm deviststated !!

8/21/2016 09:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why in the hell don't the higher ups ask the officers on the streets what should be done about all of the murders, and crime seeing they're the real ones that deal with it every day.

8/21/2016 09:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Shooting at a moving vehicle??? State police made it look sexy!!!nice job.

8/21/2016 01:36:00 PM


Ya. No problem there ... No inquisition ... Made it look easy. Just out of range from the video is Leo repelling down from the helicopter.

8/21/2016 10:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about doing an Operation Dark Heart...Lol...😂😂

8/22/2016 12:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fearing the police stopped murders and shootings! Back in the day they knew they would eventually end up in custody because the police never stopped looking for them. To the police it was like a sporting event, a healthy competition between different officers or units to get the savage off the street so he could do no more harm to the community. More importantly it was their job. They were the last line of defense between the wolf and the sheep. Back then coppers took pride in protecting the community by housing the savage. Today the savage knows that our modern police has had all his teeth pulled and can no longer chase the wolf because they have been hobbled. The wolf is truly in control now and until the sheepdog is given a full set of canine implants and the hobble strap is removed the savagery will continue. It's just that simple! Chicago (3 million pop.)is the laughing stock of the world, especially when they have more murders and shootings than New York and LA's who's combined population is 12 million or 4 times the size of Chicago.

8/22/2016 01:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So the Rand says the list didn't save lives but was just an excuse to arrest people.

How many innocent bystanders did these guys kill while they were in jail?



8/22/2016 01:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why in the hell don't the higher ups ask the officers on the streets what should be done about all of the murders, and crime seeing they're the real ones that deal with it every day.

8/21/2016 09:38:00 PM


I deal with 'it' every day, and night....

My policy - Axe me no questions and I will tell you nuffin.




Chalkie

8/22/2016 01:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

.......I'm deviststated !!
8/21/2016 09:14:00 PM



You're way past that......

8/22/2016 01:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone know if Barb West requested a case report for her stolen pillow, that was Canadian goose filled, when she left it in the wagon on midnights?
8/21/2016 06:30:00 PM



That was no theft, hazmat situation resolved by incineration.

8/22/2016 02:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just tell people you're an ice cream man; all flavors and push ups too.
8/21/2016 06:26:00 PM


Baiting the Keeping Bandit is now safe, upgraded filter algorithms fully operational, silliness and sarcasm eliminated, expanded readership snowflakes protected, offensive emotional damage avoided, happy happy joy joy for everyone......



Boring is now the new norm.....

8/22/2016 02:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only way the list would have a positive effect on crime would require a firing squad and a brick wall. Brick wall no problem, firing squad no problem, balls to do what would work no chance.

8/22/2016 06:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
As long as people are dependent on the Government they will kill each other for no reason,Edison Park VS Engelwood.

8/21/2016 11:07:00 AM

umm those people in edison park are dependent on those government jobs that allow them to live a middle class lifestyle. Lakeview vs Englewood is a better analogy

8/22/2016 08:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Trying to do more with less and calling it 'efficiency.'"

"How the f__k are we "doing more with less" as both taxes and shootings skyrocket?"

8/21/2016 06:42:00 AM

Violent crime in city up virtually across the board

"Violence in Chicago again is making national news, with the nine people killed Monday marking the city’s highest single-day toll of shooting deaths in years.

"But the Chicago Police Department and City Hall are grappling with more than a rise in shootings and killings. Citywide, other violent crimes — sexual assaults, robberies and aggravated batteries — also are up this year compared with year-to-date totals for the same period in 2015.

"Some parts of the city also are facing particular issues with certain types of violent crimes — robberies on the far North Side, for one, and sexual assaults in lakefront police districts, a Chicago Sun-Times analysis of police department crime data found.

"On a weekly basis, the police department reports the numbers of murders, sexual assaults, robberies, aggravated batteries, burglaries, thefts, auto thefts and shootings.

"Citywide, each of those categories saw an increase in the department’s latest report, through Aug. 7, with murders up 43 percent over last year, shootings up 48 percent, robberies 27 percent and sexual assaults 20 percent...."

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs-violent-crime-in-city-up-virtually-across-the-board/

So where is the BLM Army to "police our own neighborhoods?" Run out of batteries for the bullhorns? Assata's Daughters working up some new wardrobes and dance routines?

8/22/2016 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>Slim Pickens riding that hellish big and nasty nuke to detonation in "Dr. Strangelove."<

8/21/2016 05:32:00 PM

"WAAA-HOO! WAAA-HOO!"

https://tinyurl.com/jy8rzjf

8/22/2016 11:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like what Allen West when he was asked if he approved of racial profiling. He said he didn't call it that, he called it "trend analysis."

8/22/2016 12:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

City paid RAND Corp. to do what City claims is "no longer relevant" study

"According to a new report from the RAND Corporation, which was provided access to the system, it's not exactly working as planned. Rather than helping the police locate at-risk residents, the system is being used more as a suspect list when officials are trying to solve shooting crimes, RAND finds.

"Chicago Police Department Superintendent Eddie Johnson and Director Anthony Guglielmi last week released a lengthy statement that argued, in part, that RAND evaluated an early version of the model.

"The paper does not evaluate the prediction model itself [and reviews] our earliest person-based predictive model," the department says. "Since that time, the SSL model has undergone extensive refinement and repeated iterations. We are currently using SSL Version 5, which is more than 3 times as accurate as the version reviewed by RAND (Version 6 is in simultaneous development). Regarding this prediction model, repeated quantitative evaluations have shown that the model produces very accurate findings."

"According to CPD, "RAND only evaluated the first few months of the program, and the findings are no longer relevant." The organization's findings do "not support a conclusion that the tools and predictive models to support the strategy are somehow deficient," the statement says."

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2016/08/22/chicago-police-push-back-on-criticism-crime-prediction-system.html

Great. So why are shootings skyrocketing -- and why are taxes going through the roof if we're "doing more with less?"

WTF does all this dibbledebuk mean, anyway, when it's "racist" for a policeman to get out of his car and talk to someone, and "intimidating to the community" to blow a loud horn to prevent an accident?

Enough to make you see spots.

8/22/2016 07:38:00 PM  

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