Wednesday, September 21, 2016

7,000 Cameras

  • The Chicago Police Department announced Sunday that it will spend about $8 million to buy body cameras for the rest of the force, a rollout officials unveiled though it won't be complete for years and they aren't sure who will get the new equipment next.

    [...]

    The Police Department started issuing body cameras to officers as part of a pilot program in the Northwest Side Shakespeare District at the beginning of 2015, and about 2,000 cameras are now in use in seven of the city's 22 police districts. Johnson said the department will use "CPD's operating budget, as well as grant funding" totaling about $8 million to buy about 5,000 additional cameras.
Correct us if we're wrong, but Rahm keeps spouting the line that CPD is manned at 12,000 officers. Every officer is slated to get a camera - not like radios that are passed along watch to watch with a fresh battery. So that's just over half of our manpower to be equipped with a body camera.

We read once that the US military needed six soldiers at the "tail" to field a single fighting soldier at the "teeth." CPD isn't fighting an overseas battle far from friendly shores and flying in supplies, ammo, armor, etc., so that nearly 1-to-1 that CPD appears to be operating at seems a bit....inefficient.

And yes, we know about the 700 detectives. It's still a ridiculous ratio of hidden bodies.

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94 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes the cameras are hung up and passed from watch to watch.. Each officer doesn't get their own personal camera to play with scc. All tac, gang, sat, desk and enforcement officers in units will get cameras. This includes enforcement officers in narcotics and gangs. Uco's obviously won't have to wear them.

9/21/2016 12:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

City to add 200 detectives, 500 blue shirts,50 LTs and 112 sgts to the budget. This is not just to fill vacancies, the are actually adding to the budgeted number. So now the budgets for Lts is 224 after the increase it will be 274. Sgts right now are budgeted at 1190 which will bump up to 1302.if your score on the sgts test is 550 or under I would say you are safe. Under 240-260 on the Lt test should be safe also. Lots of Lts to retire in the next 1-3 years. Almost half of the current Lts have more than 26 years on the job. Things will get interesting

9/21/2016 12:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please tell me you got the hiring email blast.
500 new hires
Plus 92 FTO's
Plus 200 detectives
Plus 112 sergeants
Equals over 950 "new sworn members"
Except it doesn't, all those pluses should be counted as subtractions.
Making for a grand total of net 96 new sworn members... Oh wait I forgot about the retirees.
But who am I to try and make sense of the numbers.

9/21/2016 12:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The extra cameras are for the rest of the city's work force.

9/21/2016 12:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1 to 1 is very efficient, but is it affective ?

9/21/2016 12:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The captains daughter doesn't push a beat car......get over yourself !

9/21/2016 12:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT
Today the Supt laid out his "hiring plan" which proves that he really is a product of the Public school system. He starts off by saying he will hire 500 over the next two years (which doesn't even keep up with attrition but I digress). Then he says he's going to "hire" 92 FTO's, promote 200 Detectives, "hire" 112 Sergeants and promote 50 Lieutenants. Then he pulls out the old CPS abbicus and claims that this adds up to "OVER 950 additional police"
Now let's do this in REAL math. As I said, 500 new recruits over the next 2 years doesn't even come close to the number we are losing this year alone much less next two years.
Next if he hires 500 but then promotes 92 FTO's (not hires), promotes 200 Detectives, promotes 112 Sergeants (not hires them) that will be a total loss from the rank of Patrolman (9171) of 404 leaving basically 96 additional Patrolman added over the next Two years. Adding the number of Lieutenants is nonsensical because they are just going from Sgt to Lt anyway. Doesn't effect the number of 9171 patrolman.
Not sure if this guys is an idiot...or thinks WE are.

9/21/2016 01:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Daley Vanecko, LLC said...

A typical "Chicago Way" no-bid contract: $1,145.00 per camera.

9/21/2016 01:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seven thousand f__ing cameras.

Take heart, brothers and sisters.

The best is yet to come.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3ycbHO0dag

Love you all.

9/21/2016 01:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"..so that nearly 1-to-1 that CPD appears to be operating at seems a bit....inefficient." -- SCC

Now factor in --

"Don't Ever Hurt The Enemy."

We got a problem here.

Huh?

9/21/2016 01:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just think of the cameras as badges of rank.

If you have a camera, you don't rank!

9/21/2016 01:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope the city realizes 0 discretion. The state, county, and city have been busy making thousands of ridiculous laws, ordinances, codes etc... Now the people will pay. Oh and unfortunately anything questionable to POs career will not be policed. Good luck citizens! Learn to be like 016 and have people on the blocks on watch because of now manpower.

9/21/2016 02:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A really sweet contract for some connected vendor(s).

9/21/2016 02:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Every officer in patrol division only. Units won't be getting them.

9/21/2016 03:21:00 AM  
Anonymous outside lookin' in said...

Better find some better suppliers. Cost-wise, how much is a body camera?

What about the Dash Cameras they sell on TV for $39.99? They aren't body cams, but I am sure the cost to put one in every police car would have been a LOT cheaper than whatever they put into the originally.

More cameras aren't the answer. More cops on the street are the answer.

In the "rock-n-rock" and heavy metal scene in Chicago, the best strategy they can come up with is "More Cowbell, More Cowbell."

9/21/2016 03:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm guessing Hilliard and Kerby got the body camera contract?

9/21/2016 04:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Check ur Dept emails!... 500 new bodies!!... We're saved!!!

9/21/2016 06:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Read Special Ed's new email. 500 new recruits turn into 950!

"That means over the next two years, we will add over 950 sworn members to the Department."

But the 950 includes promotions to detective, Sgt, FTO, and Lt. Must be the new math.

No mention of the mass retirements headed our way.

9/21/2016 06:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To store all that data will cost more than 15 million a year and it will go up. Plus the cameras will get smashed ...accidentally or otherwise as well as accidentally fall off in foot chases. The amount of money will kill the idea soon. Plus you just know some connected Friend of Rahm will pay a bribe and get the contract. Hopefully when caught they squeal all the way back to Rahm

9/21/2016 07:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Heywood JaBlome said...

If they want to save money and lawsuits make everyone from the mayor down wear cameras and microphones. If their camera "accidentally breaks" they buy the replacement. Think of the millions in savings just by reducing the sheer graft in city,county and state government. Could probably fund all pensions 100% just with that reduction PLUS all the rats will jump ship when the cameras come into effect. Make elected officials record audio all the time so they cant claim bathroom and kill the audio along with the video. Make the mic a taser also so if they try to screw with it they get a large and painful shock. Then drug Daley and waterboard him for the truth

9/21/2016 07:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Read the articles on the body camera expansion again. It says every PATROL officer will have a camera. That means districts not anywhere else. And in the districts only off probation watch street people and tact get them, no office or desk. So if you add up the 15 districts that do not have them yet that equals around 5000.

9/21/2016 07:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wait until Taser Intl starts sending them bills for data storage, 7,000 cameras, hours each day of video. now that's a budget breaker!!

9/21/2016 07:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Just Wondering said...

Cameras for tact? Units like GANGS CENTRAL? Maybe? Not so much?...

9/21/2016 07:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Too many chiefs not enough indians

9/21/2016 07:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whatever........

I hope I remember to turn it off as I spend my last couple years jerking off in the closed lock-up.

7000 shot shmoos next year! Ha! Ha! Ha!

Wake me up when somebody is ready to drive me to Personnel.........

And oh yeah, fuck you. Pay me.

9/21/2016 07:56:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

All for show. No substance.

9/21/2016 08:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can we get the computers fixed in the processing room at the 009th district and car computers since we have so much money set aside for technology.

9/21/2016 08:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it permissible an on-duty CPD Police Officer possess on their person a concealed carry body-camera that they personally provide/own and control?

Question asked by private citizen.

9/21/2016 08:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've got a better one for you. Cost for the body camera for police (market value) is 350$, budget is $1,142. Now, I'm not saying graft in the city is rampant, but..apparently graft has a home in the budget department. Oh wait, I know, you have to figure in maintenance cost, and holding the data, and etc... I'd like to point to the cost over runs in the NSA since passing that lovely "Patriot Act". Holding unused data is currently running $600 Billion/year and it's going up. So anyone thinking this is an economical idea is a moron. Only ones still making money, are the lawyers.

9/21/2016 08:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Follow the money trail . BGA where are you.
GPS how's that working out , another big private contract , no one monitors it , cars all over in and out of city .
Total waste of money .
Give every police officer a cell phone with a tracking app , that would be cheaper and make sense . Cell,phone used only to dial other city cell phones or city telephone numbers .
Makes sense , not as much money as GPS , no body cameras , in five years half will be out of service .

9/21/2016 08:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most of the new detectives are useless. They blow off as much as they can then suspend or close everything else. Sorry, I have no use for them.

9/21/2016 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Slightly Off Topic, in regards to incidents in Charlotte, NC, this article:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/09/21/protests-break-out-in-charlotte-after-police-fatally-shoot-man-they-say-wielded-firearm/

this article says nationwide, police have fatally shot 702 people this year, 163 of them black males. That's less than 25 percent.

Just saying...... why isn't that statistic being put in the faces of BLM and other police haters?

9/21/2016 08:56:00 AM  
Blogger Tombstone courage said...

They can't categorize the videos, or even pay for and maintain the cloud. It will be meaningless.yesterday They announced 10,400 police officers paid dues to fop with one fair share member. Thus, 7,000 in meaningful patrol, maybe. Not 12,500.

9/21/2016 09:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Police work can be some bad stuff!!!! Be careful what you want to watch society - people dying on camera isn't pretty - it's not fictional TV!!!! Especially Godforbid it's a copper!

9/21/2016 09:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.officer.com/news/12259645/lapd-officers-faulted-in-fatal-shootings


Beck had concluded that both officers who shot Guzman followed the department's policy for using deadly force, according to a written report he sent to the board. The chief also said he believed the initial rounds fired by the officers who shot Byrd fell within policy, but faulted the officers for firing an additional 11 rounds.


huh?

9/21/2016 09:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Typical Rhambo BULLSHIT!!!
Everyone knows the CPD's manpower shortage is approx 5000 officers.
Ask any officer who requests to take comp time, personal day of BFD day.
Ask any good citizen if they didn't notice the shortage of officers in their neighborhoods!!
Even 001 and 018 Districts don't have the police presence as years before.
Sending in recruits and PPO's to districts is no only BS, it's dangerous for those assigned and even more dangerous for the citizens.
Lip service from Rhambo and his cronies(politicians) is just like saying the check in the the mail and I promise I won't *** in your mouth!!!!!!

9/21/2016 09:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can anyone in this city do simple math any more? What is this bullshit announcement that we are "hiring" over 900 officers? They announce that they are hiring 500 new officers over the next two years, and "hiring" 112 sergeant and "hiring" 92 field training officers, and promoting 50 lieutenants, then say that they "added" over 950 sworn members to the department. They mix the words "hiring" and "promoting" to confuse the feeble minded.

You are only adding when you hire new personnel that were not employed by you before. Promoting from within does not change the number of sworn personnel. That patrolman that is PROMOTED, not HIRED, to sergeant is still only one sworn person. Did common core really warp their brains that badly, or do they realize that any bullshit they feed to the media and public will be swallowed without question?

Now ask yourself this. How many will retire in the next two years? Will the 250 new hires per year mean we gained, or lost, manpower? Take your time, CPS victims. It'll come to you. There you go sparky! We will have LOST manpower. But the Bullshitter -in-Charge feeds the media and public this bullshit and they look like they put more cops on the street. I really need to leave this retard state behind.

9/21/2016 09:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and in 2-3 year years how many convictions, investigations will go on around the body camera contract?

9/21/2016 09:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Getting new bodies means nothing now. The war is over and we lost. They will get a young do-nothing and make it worse by putting a camera on him/her. Coppers, young or old, start shitting their pants when they actually have to do something, let alone use force. I dont really blame them, other then the fact they were pussies to begin with, because the Leadership on this job is so selfish, corrupt, and rotten.

Actually there is no leadership. Just a bunch of spineless jellyfish all trying to get to that next pension level and maybe a sweet after retirement job, as well as retiring with thousands of hours on the books. Amazing isnt it, how those clout types always retire with thousands of hours on the books?

This job is so phony it can take the most dedicated cop and turn him into a bitter do nothing after 20 years.

9/21/2016 10:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Not Enough! said...

Tthe lamestream Chicago media retards won't cover what is really going on to protect Shillery and Tiny Dancer.

Only the Right media can connect the dots and tell the truth: http://dailym.ai/2crc6Q4

9/21/2016 10:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just Wondering said...
Cameras for tact? Units like GANGS CENTRAL? Maybe? Not so much?...

9/21/2016 07:33:00 AM

tact already has them in the districts with body cams. Gangs central? You mean gang enforcement central which is part of patrol. Yes, gang enforcement is part of patrol not OCD. I still see strokes with the OCD unit designator. Only 393 is OCD. Gang enforcement should get cameras, they do the same work as district officers.

9/21/2016 10:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What kind of crazy math is Eddie using to sum up 950 new sworn members? How stupid does he think we are? I hope the media and public aren't as stupid as he thinks they are.

9/21/2016 10:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ate these 200 detectives coming off the recent test? If so when can we expect results?

9/21/2016 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

cpd is known for their maintainence.

9/21/2016 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

$$$$$$$$$$$

9/21/2016 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

no money for pension tho!

9/21/2016 11:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

have you tried processing a prisoner in 011,what a shithole. fix the computers!

9/21/2016 11:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cameras for tact? Units like GANGS CENTRAL? Maybe? Not so much?...
9/21/2016 07:33:00 AM

Yes idiot. Tact has cameras. Saturation getting them, gang enforcement next.

9/21/2016 11:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The superintendant is pretty bad at explaining things. We know this. What he means in the email is that the budgeted strength of detectives is going up by 200, Sgts 112, Lts 50, and POs by 500. That is understood from the press releases. Why he worded it as he did is beyond me. My dog could have explained it better in that email.

9/21/2016 11:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, . . . please, please stop making sense. It's hurting my style and uselessness.
XOXO Special ED

9/21/2016 11:42:00 AM  
Blogger Ret.177 said...

(OT) WGN is running with the story of 900 plus additional Officers being hired. I didn't know that we started hiring Sgt., Lt., Detectives, etc. instead of promoting them from the ranks. 500 new hires won't even replace the guys leaving this year and next.
Ret.177

9/21/2016 12:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Check ur Dept emails!... 500 new bodies!!... We're saved!!!

9/21/2016 06:01:00 AM


heyjackass.com has produced 500+ bodies this year and should post up another 250 bodies by end of year. If these loyal Democratic voters are double dipping by being on the SSL, in another 8 months or so new hires will outpace the casualty rate for the Liebstandarten Barack Obama. There IS a method to the madness!

9/21/2016 12:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

00 new hires
Plus 92 FTO's
Plus 200 detectives
Plus 112 sergeants
Equals over 950 "new sworn members"
Except it doesn't, all those pluses should be counted as subtractions.
Making for a grand total of net 96 new sworn members... Oh wait I forgot about the retirees.
But who am I to try and make sense of the numbers.

@@@@


well it's a little tricky but I know what they are saying. These don't include vacancies. So when they make 200 detectives and 112 sgts and 92 ftos those vacant spots will have to be filled also, along with the 500 new blue shirts. So when you add all of that up its actually 904 new blue shirts, but then again they were there to begin with. So long story short they are adding 500 to the budget. They might need to hire 900 to fill the 500 new spots but they will have to also hire 400 to replace for promotions... They were there anyways so they are using tricky math. Yes they will hire 900 people, 500 will be actually new and an addition to the department, but 400 are only replacing those promoted to dic, Sgt and Fto

9/21/2016 12:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He is using common core math.

Units are in training now.

Cams do not get passed from watch or officers.

9/21/2016 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The house mice are a joke, let's be serious.

I think the overlooked cost is the storage. I read at least one department had to terminate the use of BWC's because they couldn't afford the storage costs.

How about the bullshit with the hiring??? So if 200-300 retire and we hire 500 over time what does that bolster?? It barely covers attrition.

Now add the required promotions to fill spots and you deplete the P.O. position even more and never come close to gaining ground, better yet getting ahead.

Don't get me wrong, any and all hiring is good, but to act like this is some big major event is a joke. Rahm if you recall cut the old budgeted amount of P.O.'s from 13,500 to 12,000 several years ago to eliminate the "appearance" of a shorthanded police department.

9/21/2016 12:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Somewhat off topic but as long as we are talking about
RAHM and CAMERAS.

Drove around the corner from one main street to another and cars were passing me by and I saw flashes of a RAHM SPEED CAMERA. Now I'm wasn't sure that I got stung but I was curious and saw the sign that read,
SPEED LIMIT 20MPH ON SCHOOL DAYS WHEN CHIDREN ARE PRESENT.

No Speed Limit sign could be seen from where I where I turned.

I stopped to look at that block. It was mid-day and there were NO children present and just turning the corner my speed couldn't be any more than the normal 25-26MPH.

Maybe this is worrying about nothing but does anyone know of a defense that has worked against one of these automated tickets?

Thanks and Stay Safe

9/21/2016 12:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

...Next if he hires 500 but then promotes 92 FTO's (not hires), promotes 200 Detectives, promotes 112 Sergeants (not hires them) that will be a total loss from the rank of Patrolman (9171) of 404 leaving basically 96 additional Patrolman added over the next Two years. Adding the number of Lieutenants is nonsensical because they are just going from Sgt to Lt anyway. Doesn't effect the number of 9171 patrolman.
Not sure if this guys is an idiot...or thinks WE are.
9/21/2016 01:00:00 AM

He doesn't care about our reaction. All he cares is that the news outlets buy into it.
And they have.
Abc7 is reporting 'nearly a thousand new police officers'. Crain's bought into it, as well.
They always hear what they WANT to hear, instead of what is said.
He said NEW POSITIONS.
He did not say NEW OFFICERS.

Wake up, media. We'll have fewer sworn members of the CPD by the end of next year, not more.
Ask how many have retired, and will retire, because of the change in retiree health care next Spring.
DO YOUR DAMN JOB, MEDIA. INVESTIGATE.

9/21/2016 12:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The captains daughter doesn't push a beat car......get over yourself !
9/21/2016 12:55:00 AM

You'll have to be more specific. So many captains have daughters...

9/21/2016 12:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The supt last line in his email:
"I sincerely hope that I have earned your trust and confidence. You have certainly earned mine."

Has he earned even one single persons trust or confidence? That's a serious question. I don't know a single person that trusts this guy. As for confidence, I'd actually feel more confident with a brand new recruit heading this dept than Eddie the stripper. At least the recruit isn't looking to strip and fire every cop that does anything wrong.

9/21/2016 02:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just watched I WTTW from last night about police accountability and the violence epidemic, where was Lamon Reccord, even they think he old news.

9/21/2016 02:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Figger $200 per camera plus tax and fifth party vendor fees, comes to the neighborhood of 'bout $1145.00 per unit, not incl. maintenance, setup and parts.
Sweet deal for some connected outfit. Maybe it's the same go-to guy that sells the city it's Dry Ice.
Cameras will certainly work almost as great as them PODS.
And then there's the establishment of the new Bureau of Body Camera Imagery Unit to contend with, gotta have a dedicated Merit Exempt a XO, 4 Lts, 10 Sgts and fully staffed Admin and 2 tech guys.

Say Cheese and Go Fetal.

9/21/2016 02:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Indiana law requires video be kept for one year. Many medium size police departments can't handle the storage costs and are shutting down their cameras

9/21/2016 03:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

City to add 200 detectives, 500 blue shirts,50 LTs and 112 sgts to the budget. This is not just to fill vacancies, the are actually adding to the budgeted number. So now the budgets for Lts is 224 after the increase it will be 274. Sgts right now are budgeted at 1190 which will bump up to 1302.if your score on the sgts test is 550 or under I would say you are safe. Under 240-260 on the Lt test should be safe also. Lots of Lts to retire in the next 1-3 years. Almost half of the current Lts have more than 26 years on the job. Things will get interesting


Actually the above post makes sense BUT this is the city speaking so I believe it's only half truths. Avcording to numerous sources the DOJ is still conducting it's INVESTIGATION. It has moved slowly but it WILL include guidelines in which the city MUST comply. One of the areas is supervision. Sources said the DOJ wants 100 new LT's and 300 sgts. They believe and have found that the dept is very, very short handed all across the board. I believe these preliminary numbers are the city's way of inching closer to the DOJ numbers. The promotions will proceed as usual but the way EJ put it in the email is equivalent to CPS math and even my 3 yr old could figure it was all bullshit.

9/21/2016 03:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They could've used that 8 million to hire more officers and more Detective.

9/21/2016 03:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck you Rahm, we need to put a camera on you and your 50 thieves. I'm fucking done.

9/21/2016 04:12:00 PM  
Blogger Retired Indiana Copper said...

From PoliceOne.com: For police body cameras, big costs loom in storage
The storage expenses — running into the millions of dollars in some cities — often go overlooked in the debates over using cameras.
https://www.policeone.com/police-products/body-cameras/articles/8243271-For-police-body-cameras-big-costs-loom-in-storage/

Rough Estimate Using Duluth MN from the above article - about a $1.00 per day storage cost per camera. Unknown if 1 officer - 1 camera or 24x7 use for that figure. For the 7K worth of cameras that would be a tad over 2.1 million dollars a year storage at the least.

9/21/2016 04:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone know what happened at the FOP meeting yesterday regarding health insurance? We suffered another loss in the appellate court today, so it's looking more inevitable that we will have to find other insurance. Thanks

9/21/2016 04:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Massachusetts supreme court ruled, black men justified running from police

http://www.alternet.org/human-rights/court-rules-black-men-may-be-justified-running-police?akid=14665.101287.FgD1SB&rd=1&src=newsletter1064117&t=2

9/21/2016 04:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Another half assed city plan said...

Every sworn member should be issued a body cam.
Every department vehicle should have a dash cam.

Body cams should always be running when dealing with the public face to face.
What about OT/special employment? Citizens walking in to stations?
House mice deployed to the street?

The "community" doesn't even realize that rahm and rerun are selling them another bill of goods.

Some copper in a unit without these miracle devices will have a beef against them and the city will fuck them when a camera could exonerate them.

C'mon FOP, make the city cough up.

9/21/2016 05:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Man, just saw Johnson on the news. Looks like he's swallowing a lot of aggression, and pizzas too!

9/21/2016 05:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Most of the new detectives are useless. They blow off as much as they can then suspend or close everything else. Sorry, I have no use for them.

9/21/2016 08:52:00 AM

Because most of them are merit hacks with limited reading, writing and comprehension skills.

9/21/2016 05:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And then there's the establishment of the new Bureau of Body Camera Imagery Unit to contend with, gotta have a dedicated Merit Exempt a XO, 4 Lts, 10 Sgts and fully staffed Admin and 2 tech guys.

Sounds like current ISD ....

9/21/2016 05:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How the fuck are Rahm and Eddie saying they're hiring 970 new officers?
Only 500 would be new hires...... the other 470 are promotions ..... of existing officers!
That's Rahmenomics for you. Based on chicanery, smoke and mirrors.

9/21/2016 06:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT Does anybody know if the paleta man is hiring any bodyguards? Need a side job and he's definitely gonna need one. Over/under on when they find this guy dead? Three weeks?

9/21/2016 06:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT
Today the Supt laid out his "hiring plan" which proves that he really is a product of the Public school system. He starts off by saying he will hire 500 over the next two years (which doesn't even keep up with attrition but I digress). Then he says he's going to "hire" 92 FTO's, promote 200 Detectives, "hire" 112 Sergeants and promote 50 Lieutenants. Then he pulls out the old CPS abbicus and claims that this adds up to "OVER 950 additional police"
Now let's do this in REAL math. As I said, 500 new recruits over the next 2 years doesn't even come close to the number we are losing this year alone much less next two years.
Next if he hires 500 but then promotes 92 FTO's (not hires), promotes 200 Detectives, promotes 112 Sergeants (not hires them) that will be a total loss from the rank of Patrolman (9171) of 404 leaving basically 96 additional Patrolman added over the next Two years. Adding the number of Lieutenants is nonsensical because they are just going from Sgt to Lt anyway. Doesn't effect the number of 9171 patrolman.
Not sure if this guys is an idiot...or thinks WE are.


I came on in 1992, at tat time the department was budgeted for 13,500 sworn officers. Then comes along 9.5 and eliminates 1,500 sworn officers from the budget. 13,500 - 1,500 = 12,500. So now 9.5 added 500sworn officers to the budget 12,500 +500= 13,000. Then I got your back Ed says it will bring us back to stength of 13,500 I'm confused.

This hiring will take over a two year period, shit the hiring will not keep up with retirements, firings, LOA, and disabilities that will occur within that two year span. Shit in the D Unit alone you will have 200 retire before you promote the 200 he said they ate going to make.

This city is notorious for not keeping up with atrition, they have to keep hiring and promoting in par with the manpower it loses. You will never get to full strength if you wait for years to hire and promote, it is not mathematically possible.

On a side note Special Ed should pubically admit that J-Fled and Mr. Big Apple dismantled the history and the efficient way this department was operated before they became superintendent. The department should revert back to the way the command structure, areas, and districts were before their arrival.

9/21/2016 06:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...




Don't Take this job Unless you have CLOUT!!


You'll never get promoted and work in the shit and be sued and divorced

And if youre lucky you wont go to jail

9/21/2016 07:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only thing that camera will record is how slow I happen to type all my reports... one finger at a time.
I guess I'm not as nimble as I used to be. Oh well.

9/21/2016 07:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...




God Bless our Police Nationwide
thank you signed not the police

You have my respect and gratitude


Stay safe

9/21/2016 08:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Criminals in Charlotte NC The country burns like in the 1960's
Man with a gun shot by a black cop CNN Media distorts

USA is Lawless under Ommama and Hillary
Race baiting

9/21/2016 08:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a couple questions:
#1 What exactly is "real" police work
#2 Have the years of "real" police work affected ANYTHING
The south and west sides are still, if not worse, then they have ever been.
The south and west sides have more guns and drugs than ever before.
The shootings and homicides on the south and west sides are higher then in the last 20 years.
As a veteran of the south side, THE ONLY REAL VICTIMS HAVE BEEN THE POLICE who actually give a shit.
So if "real" police work means stopping shitheads in their own shithead neighborhood, what gains have WE seen.
Being the "real" police has not changed shit, we are only the pawns of politicians
WE don't write the laws, WE only enforce them
So who is really paying the price
Don't be a pawn
WE are not fodder
Use the laws and general orders to your advantage
The city has become worse in my 50 plus years of living here, for all that hard working police work that OUR BROTHERS have sacrificed
The reason is not because WE have not been doing our part but the politicians and bleeding hearts have not done theirs
PROTECT YOUR PARTNER, YOURSELF AND YOUR FELLOW OFFICERS.
Let the "community" enjoy the rewards of what they reap
Ignore the news, ignore the web, WE know the truth
STAY SAFE and go home to the only citizens that matter

9/21/2016 09:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic: Why hasn't the media picked up on the horrible story regarding three juvenile home invaders/rapists? 12, 15, 17 old offenders. That's right. A 12 year old evil kid took his turn on a woman.

9/21/2016 09:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When will these promotions start taking place. End of the year or starting next year.

9/21/2016 10:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The real problem with this body camera is that it is helping bad guys get back on the street. If it is not on a body camera, then it didn't happen anymore....failure to recieve felony approval if it is not captured on camera, even if camera was on but not in direction of offense and I saw it with my own two eyes. Start swearing in the camera...what did I swear in for...nothing cuz what I see doesn'5 matter...only the camera. Gun offenders are getting released without charge and all it is doing is making them realize that they can do whatever the fuck they want. They will start shooting and turn themselves in just to fuck with us soon.

9/21/2016 10:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Does anyone know what happened at the FOP meeting yesterday regarding health insurance? We suffered another loss in the appellate court today, so it's looking more inevitable that we will have to find other insurance. Thanks

9/21/2016 04:38:00 PM

********

Billy Dougherty says Obama Care is a good option for retirees.

9/21/2016 11:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It would be nice to a have a training class on how to use the camera i.e. when to turn it on and off the recording.how it works. All i was told is go check your camera out and good luck. Yeah great job rolling it out.

9/22/2016 12:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And you want to be here; Why?

9/22/2016 12:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Somewhat off topic but as long as we are talking about
RAHM and CAMERAS.

Drove around the corner from one main street to another and cars were passing me by and I saw flashes of a RAHM SPEED CAMERA. Now I'm wasn't sure that I got stung but I was curious and saw the sign that read,
SPEED LIMIT 20MPH ON SCHOOL DAYS WHEN CHIDREN ARE PRESENT.

No Speed Limit sign could be seen from where I where I turned.

I stopped to look at that block. It was mid-day and there were NO children present and just turning the corner my speed couldn't be any more than the normal 25-26MPH.

Maybe this is worrying about nothing but does anyone know of a defense that has worked against one of these automated tickets?

Thanks and Stay Safe

There is a current known issue at Dept of Finance that some of the cameras are malfunctioning and if people get nailed by those cameras improperly, the City has made it a requirement to dismiss the tickets issued until the contractors do the repair job.

9/22/2016 07:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT Does anybody know if the paleta man is hiring any bodyguards? Need a side job and he's definitely gonna need one. Over/under on when they find this guy dead? Three weeks?

9/21/2016 06:12:00 PM

If this were good ol' Mexico he and his squeeze would have gone missing and demands for ransom would be the order of the dia! Viva USA...

9/22/2016 08:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Over 37,000 videos that have no event number and that number grows everyday.

9/22/2016 09:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blogger Tombstone courage said...
They can't categorize the videos, or even pay for and maintain the cloud. It will be meaningless.yesterday They announced 10,400 police officers paid dues to fop with one fair share member. Thus, 7,000 in meaningful patrol, maybe. Not 12,500.

9/21/2016 09:02:00 AM

8888888

It's 11943 counting from the newest PPO to Special Ed. Remember 8 years ago it was 13500.

9/22/2016 10:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

none of the shit we have now working anyway.

9/22/2016 11:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
It would be nice to a have a training class on how to use the camera i.e. when to turn it on and off the recording.how it works. All i was told is go check your camera out and good luck. Yeah great job rolling it out.
9/22/2016 12:29:00 AM

Check your training history. I'll bet it shows you've been trained. Area North front office used to check who was working that day and list all the pc numbers of whoever was working as having been trained on whatever video training was coming up on deadline.

So, when you're sued for something, they'll say you 'were trained' on such and such a day. (And good luck proving otherwise.)

9/22/2016 12:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Charlotte Antagonists are calling for the Firing of any police officer who did not have their body cams on when the shooting took place. Now the call for Body cams have taken on an entirely new way to punish police officer just trying to do their duty.

9/22/2016 12:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Somewhat off topic but as long as we are talking about
RAHM and CAMERAS.

Drove around the corner from one main street to another and cars were passing me by and I saw flashes of a RAHM SPEED CAMERA. Now I'm wasn't sure that I got stung but I was curious and saw the sign that read,
SPEED LIMIT 20MPH ON SCHOOL DAYS WHEN CHIDREN ARE PRESENT.

No Speed Limit sign could be seen from where I where I turned.

I stopped to look at that block. It was mid-day and there were NO children present and just turning the corner my speed couldn't be any more than the normal 25-26MPH.

Maybe this is worrying about nothing but does anyone know of a defense that has worked against one of these automated tickets?

Thanks and Stay Safe
9/21/2016 12:36:00 PM

The cameras are constantly taking pictures even when they aren't flash-flashing. The person reviewing the pictures is supposed to be monitoring all the variables, like kids present, other cars moving faster than you (to determine who 'really' was going too fast). I don't know how you request the photos, but you can get more photos than just the one attached to your citation (if you even get one) and prove no children were present. And, remember, there's another camera on the opposite side of the one that tickets you, so request photos from that one, too.

Chances are, you won't even get a ticket, though. Go online to the city website and run your own plate every few days for the next couple of weeks. It'll show whether you got a ticket and you can view the photos attached to the ticket, too. This way, if you don't receive a notice in the mail, your ticket won't automatically double without you even knowing about it.

9/22/2016 12:55:00 PM  

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