More Retro Coming
Buried at the bottom of an article about how the City is once again, settling winnable lawsuits, is this bit of information:
- The third settlement — for $937,000 — will resolve a class-action lawsuit filed by Chicago Police Officer [R.B.]
The suit claims that the city violated the Fair Labor Standards Act by excluding “all overtime pay” from retroactive pay hikes tied to the five-year police contract that expires on June 30, 2017.
“Plaintiff [R.B.] and the putative class worked in excess of 171 hours in at least one, 28-day pay period and were not paid their full overtime compensation,” the lawsuit states.
This stems from the FOP caving to Rahm's demand that retro pay not be applied to overtime earned. This was against Federal law, something that the FOP, the FOP lawyer missed completely. And far be it from Rahm to point out his legal team was winning due to the ignorance of the other side. Five years later, and a mere 9 month before this Contract expires, some people will be getting money owed.
Labels: contract stuff, FOP
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
40 Comments:
Off Topic - A huge thank you for the assist with my overheated car Tuesday night. (Great to see you again, too.)
Woo hoo!
Just in time for that raise on the water bill!
Will they be paying interest on this since it could have been earning it in the bank ?
How about not allowing some of us to check the comp. time box on the active shooter training. I always take time. Its written in the contract. I got 40 hours for Nato after it was grieved. Of course I had to pay back the money but this is my preference and contractual right to take comp. time for involuntary o.t. worked. I called the Union and asked to speak with someone about O.T. The person was arrogant and clueless. I was told there was only one grievance filed and won during Nato. I remember there were four. Either way, I got my time then and I want my 12 hours now. Has anyone grieved this? Can I still?
At the poor suffering tax payers expense.
I'm truly glad for them.
Now, if the retirees can prevail against that cucksocker tiny dancer rahm from taking away the medical we were assured of when hired and at retirement seminars.
"Now, if the retirees can prevail against that cucksocker tiny dancer rahm from taking away the medical we were assured of when hired and at retirement seminars."
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When the goose cant shit out another golden egg, why do you expect one? The dammed goose is dead.
When the government of Chicago, including it's employees, have gone fetal on the citizens, just remember that life is a two way street.
UNRELATED BUT VERY IMPORTANT:
Boys and Girls, the reality of the medical situation is this. The city will use the recent court decision about coppers not qualifying for free medical insurance if hired after August 1989 as a wedge to get you to pay more for retiree medical insurance. the promised 2% is a lie and I believe that in the new contract the offer will be more like 3% for single and 5% for married. But it beats the current rate of $1500/mo for single and $2300/mo for family. YOu heard it hear first
Same goes for officers who are stripped and terminated.
The City actually thinks that comp time is theirs.
But nobody files a lawsuit and FOP has a case of the lazy ass.
Shopping trip!
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
6 years ago when investigative news reported 3 man crew to change street lights , rahm was surprised . 6 years later city has 3 man light bulb changers , over staffed crews on street and sanitation , forestry crews , driver sits in truck doing nothing . blue recycle garbage has one man and he works faster than the city 3 man crew .
This stall tactic is used by every large corporation when contract negotiations are settled. Get your straight pay and most say OK no problem. Make you fight for the overtime pay. They roll the dice with the hope of a verdict in their favor.
alright just retired can use that extra few hundred no when do I gets my money?
Some people getting money back? Aren't we all included in this class action lawsuit?
The law firm that the union uses now is useless. Its like calling felony review. If they are not 100% positive they are going to win the attorneys withdraw the grievance.
Fop right on top of things. Useless!!!!
Your Union president is your problem, he doesn't have a clue
taking away the medical we were assured of when hired and at retirement seminars.
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someone just telling you that at hiring does not create a legal obligation on the part of the city.
It is somewhat analogous to the situation that military members find themselves in WRT health care. Despite being promised as part of the recruitment spiel, it is not actually something the federal government has to provide unless congress appropriates money to pay for it. The fact is that congress does so every year, but a promise from a recruiter of lifetime medical benefits or dependant medical benefits cannot bind the federal government to actually provide it.
In other words, if it is not in the contract, or otherwise agreed to in writing by an authorized representative of the city, you may well be out of luck.
NAC
Anonymous said...
Will they be paying interest on this since it could have been earning it in the bank ?
9/14/2016 12:35:00 AM
Yes. In a bank, you maybe could have received 1% per year. The lawsuit settlement includes more than 30% interest.
1 of our own wounded make sure your armed retired or not these savages are out of control:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/09/14/retired-cpd-deputy-chief-shot-in-south-chicago/
Get well soon prayers sent!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
UNRELATED BUT VERY IMPORTANT:
Boys and Girls, the reality of the medical situation is this. The city will use the recent court decision about coppers not qualifying for free medical insurance if hired after August 1989 as a wedge to get you to pay more for retiree medical insurance. the promised 2% is a lie and I believe that in the new contract the offer will be more like 3% for single and 5% for married. But it beats the current rate of $1500/mo for single and $2300/mo for family. YOu heard it hear first
9/14/2016 06:17:00 AM
Wait until you see 2017 medical tier system and how many hospitals are out! Looks like great health care for illegals and thugs but for police ghetto style! Don't believe it use your fingers call Union city benefits management and blue cross blue shield! I know the hackers are giving us a Hillary October surprise but will we get the cities elected October surprise also? Dean hello it's me again!
To the active shooter training question, it is grant money firemen go on their RDO and now we do, but cash only. If you want to go during your regular tour and get no OT you may.
How about not allowing some of us to check the comp. time box on the active shooter training. I always take time. Its written in the contract. I got 40 hours for Nato after it was grieved. Of course I had to pay back the money but this is my preference and contractual right to take comp. time for involuntary o.t. worked. I called the Union and asked to speak with someone about O.T. The person was arrogant and clueless. I was told there was only one grievance filed and won during Nato. I remember there were four. Either way, I got my time then and I want my 12 hours now. Has anyone grieved this? Can I still?
You have to take the cash...NATO and things like that is funded by the Federal Govt, and part of the contract says it's paid in money only...they don't care about your time due.
In other words, if it is not in the contract, or otherwise agreed to in writing by an authorized representative of the city, you may well be out of luck.
NAC
9/14/2016 10:28:00 AM
Ever hear of 'past practice', Counselor?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
6 years ago when investigative news reported 3 man crew to change street lights , rahm was surprised . 6 years later city has 3 man light bulb changers , over staffed crews on street and sanitation , forestry crews , driver sits in truck doing nothing . blue recycle garbage has one man and he works faster than the city 3 man crew .
9/14/2016 08:10:00 AM
'blue recycle garbage man' isn't required to heft your couch, mattresses, bookcases, etc, into his ever-so-tidy truck, either.
Rahm and his henchmen mislead and knowingly act illegally?
Say it ain't so!
Are they still dicking around with the score from the Detective's test?
In other words, if it is not in the contract, or otherwise agreed to in writing by an authorized representative of the city, you may well be out of luck.
NAC
9/14/2016 10:28:00 AM
Ever hear of 'past practice', Counselor?
Past practice??? Good luck with that.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
6 years ago when investigative news reported 3 man crew to change street lights , rahm was surprised . 6 years later city has 3 man light bulb changers , over staffed crews on street and sanitation , forestry crews , driver sits in truck doing nothing . blue recycle garbage has one man and he works faster than the city 3 man crew .
9/14/2016 08:10:00 AM
'blue recycle garbage man' isn't required to heft your couch, mattresses, bookcases, etc, into his ever-so-tidy truck, either.
9/14/2016 06:14:00 PM
We had the BEST garbage guys. Always went out of their way to help you.
How is any city service better since privatization?
I am surprised that so many coppers are missing the point of this. ONE OF OUR OWN HAD TO SUE TO GET US THIS!!! Our union COMPLETELY FAILED US. Ask yourself: How did our negotiating team miss this? How did our HIRED LABOR ATTORNEYS miss this? How did the City's LABOR ATTORNEY and negotiating team miss this? My answer...I don't think they missed it at all. I think we were being BACK DOORED! And if this wasn't a back door deal then these attorney's are a bunch of incompetent idiots. Look in the February newsletter at Dean's attempt to
!. Make it look like it was some "obscure" law and
2. Make it look like if it wasn't for them (the union) this would not have been possible.
Well, Thanks DEAN and the rest of Lodge & for being so dumb and missing this OBSCURE law which SHORT CHANGED the members you represent by almost One Million dollars. Great job.
And a sincere thank you to the POLICE OFFICER R.B. for filing this lawsuit and really looking out for us.
Who's the attorney so we can get in contact to sue also
Don't blame Deano for this one. When Deano took over two years into negotiations he no choice but to keep Mike Shields Labor Attorney. If Deano dumped him the process would have started all over and they would still be negotiating today. This like the failure to send the letter is falling right on Mike Shields head.
excellent point!!!! they were either in on it or too stupid to catch it!! un fuckin belivable
How about not allowing some of us to check the comp. time box on the active shooter training. I always take time. Its written in the contract. I got 40 hours for Nato after it was grieved. Of course I had to pay back the money but this is my preference and contractual right to take comp. time for involuntary o.t. worked. I called the Union and asked to speak with someone about O.T. The person was arrogant and clueless. I was told there was only one grievance filed and won during Nato. I remember there were four. Either way, I got my time then and I want my 12 hours now. Has anyone grieved this? Can I still?
Read this very clearly, unless your DAY OFF IS CANCELLED, the department can dictate time or money.
What about retro FSLA pay I thought we were supposed to get from 2003 to Jan 1, 2016?
I heard some cops won class action lawsuit for that too.If you worked alot of o.t., it would be about the same amount of a check as the last retro, since it goes back that far. Anyone know about this?
This is fsla suit , right ?
Lawsuit is only for FLSA overtime because it is Federal Law. FLSA accounts for about 5% of all overtime worked. Bottom line is Shields still screwed us out of retro on 95% of our overtime simply by not sending the letter in on time informing the city we wanted to negotiate a new contract. To add insult to injury his buddies at FOP Dan Shields, Fernando Flores, Dean Angelo,JR, Mike Underwood, Tim Murphy, Dan Stover, Dan Trevino, Billy Burns, John Lipka, Denis Doherty, Dan Gorman, Al Jaglowski and Rick King all voted not guilty knowing full well he committed this crime against every FOP member. If you need a clue in the next FOP election these self serving individuals who have nothing but contempt for fop members should be on your no fly list.
The FOP HAS AND CONTINUES TO FAIL US. Deano's appointed well paid flunkies signed off on overtime specifically restricting only BID OFFICERS in 018 for two years.(2013-2015).They not only swept it under the rug they signed off on over 100 grievances, never notifying the affected members, lying to their faces, denying the officers over time pay.DEANO and his FLUNKIES used the grievances to harm them. a stroke of a pen DIMINISHED SENIORITY RIGHTS BY CREATING an ILLEGAL WATCH AT THE VERY TIME OUR COBTRACT WAS BEING RATIFIED!!!!! SHAME ON THEM!!!!
Vote these bottom feeders out
Anonymous Anonymous said...
UNRELATED BUT VERY IMPORTANT:
Boys and Girls, the reality of the medical situation is this. The city will use the recent court decision about coppers not qualifying for free medical insurance if hired after August 1989 as a wedge to get you to pay more for retiree medical insurance. the promised 2% is a lie and I believe that in the new contract the offer will be more like 3% for single and 5% for married. But it beats the current rate of $1500/mo for single and $2300/mo for family. YOu heard it hear first
9/14/2016 06:17:00 AM
Wait until you see 2017 medical tier system and how many hospitals are out! Looks like great health care for illegals and thugs but for police ghetto style! Don't believe it use your fingers call Union city benefits management and blue cross blue shield! I know the hackers are giving us a Hillary October surprise but will we get the cities elected October surprise also? Dean hello it's me again!
Can someone please explain this insurance dilemma! If i retire at 55 next year it is free? But if i don't, and wait for higher pension, i will be paying 2 or 3% while i am still working, or if i retire after next year?
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