10-99 Units Returning
- Chicago police officers no longer have to work in pairs, as department leaders Friday announced said they would lift the order imposed after attacks in Dallas and Baton Rouge, La., killed eight officers in July.
All units will be returning to regular deployment as of Monday, after the 15th anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, according to a Chicago Police Department statement. Officials blamed the partner requirement for slower response times to incidents in the city during a particularly violent summer.
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Labels: safety issues
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
75 Comments:
Cocksuckers still try to find a way to blame us.
Officials blamed the partner requirement for slower response times to incidents in the city during a particularly violent summer.
Retarded. We drive slower 10-4?????? Bulshit as usual
This actually took effect on the 6th, but if an officer requested to be with a partner it should
Be granted
Whatever. Stay safe, stay fetal
Typical bull sh*t this department does. 10-4 should be in placed all times
Good. Only cutting paper anyway. Hot call, wait for backup.
Should be interesting! Effective ??? Not likely especially for on-view domestics etc... "Waits...for backup" I got nothing😒😐
This part of the article should start; "Once upon a time a long time ago" Fairy tales usually start this way. "Officials blamed the partner requirement for slower response times to incidents in the city during a particularly violent summer."
No one should be 99 in this crap hole... It's an officer safety issue. Not our fault about response times, should of been hiring police all along!
Wise choice on police managements part. It should help a little bit. Stay safe and stay fetal.
If I didn't know better, I would say the Chicago Police Department is undermanned?
Illusions of adequacy?
Maybe 016 can get five whole beats manned?
Not a cop.
A CPD cop should never, not have a partner. Fuck you tiny dancer, why do you need 6? Are you really that relevant?
Keep voting democrat. My union says that I should. Go figure!!!
Rhams kid gets ROBBED trying to buy grass. "He was talking to his college counselor."
LMFAO!!! You OK'd the curfew. Why wasn't the tiny dancers, little dancer charged?
Yet, PO that viewed the report, lost time. Hmmmmm
Hey Rham, do you prefer 9 1/2 digit midget, or tiny dancer?
Nickname's aren't chosen...
MEH......... LMFAO...
Yes
I have an opinion
Stay fetal
I'm no cop, but I don't like it.
This is not a smart move - especially in Chicago.
Retire/quit as soon as you are able- with Hillary In the White House, the democrats taking control if the house and senate, the Supreme Court will be packed with anti gun pro criminal justices/ so the democrats will control the executive legislative and judicial branches, much as chicago Is a democratic dictatorship- George Soros will be spending his tens of billions of dollars to see that the democrats remain in control forever, like the democrats in chicago- everything u do will be a civil rights violation if they can't get u criminally- retire as soon as u can- do anything else
Let's be like the burbs and all ride by our selves. ;)
About time. The order was another knee jerk reaction that did nothing. Two people in the car wouldn't protect you from that type of attack.
See, all this crime could have been stopped of they had just ended it sooner. Idiots.
I'm too old and cranky for a partner, I like to just argue with myself.
What's changed that we no longer need 10-99 units ?
Personally. I don't see an issue with them if the person doesn't mind working 99. Backup is always coming in most places . Be smart. There are just some people that belong 99 as well. If you don't want to work it man up and say so.
Or under manned and under funded Dept............
.....or we could blame the lack of police offices or the slow response times, or lack of planning on previous McCompstats for slow response times, or a Mayor that isn't that bright for the slow response times and on and on and on.
Bad idea ~ especially when there is a war on cops!
Thank God, again if your afraid to work alone go to afternoons or midnights. Being 10-4 made it much more dangerous. Constantly in a RAP, all the dogs laying down on jobs for hours (which is fine) unless you are the one car up going from one end of the district to the other. 18 car available is always better than 5 or 6
When it comes to responding to calls, just follow the general orders / special orders. DO NOT RESPOND ALONE to domestics, in-progress calls, just-occurred calls, disturbances, etc. by yourself. REQUEST and WAIT for BACKUP / ASSISTANCE.
Your safety comes first. Your safety comes before the citizen's request for service.
Don't get hurt. Don't get hungry. Don't get wet.
Someone somewhere loves you. Make sure to go home at the end of your shift.
If Rahm and the powers-that-be really cared about you, there would be enough manpower for all the beat cars, and the pension would be 80-100 percent funded. the facts that we do not have enough manpower, that Rahm would rather pay you overtime (thereby taking you away from your loved ones) than pay for more manpower, and the deplorable state of the pension fund, should tell you everything you need to know about how much Rahm and the democratic party care about you. The fact that the powers-that-be would rather pay out millions in lawsuits while sacrificing you to the media instead of spending those millions on training should tell you more about how concerned they are about you going home safely at night.
Know, learn, practice, and play by the rules of the game.
Be safe.
How about not dispatching BS jobs.
Make your kid go to school yourself.
Compile a list of property stolen and go to the station for a report.
etc.
As stated
Officials blamed partner requirements for slower response times in the city during a particularly violent summer.
Wow...that's rich. Rich with contempt and lack of concern for any officer's safety. Maybe this is so that the 16th District can have six cars up in the largest district in the city instead of three. Is that 9.5's real concern to smoke and mirror the community who pay some of the highest taxes that there are six cars up instead of three. On those "particularly violent" calls a lone officer should not approach alone anyway. Therefore two cars down on that job.
Why are the lives of officers in the 16 district so much less important than those assigned elsewhere. Maybe the spouses and loved ones of those officers could show a measurement of support like walk around the 16 district with signs DEMANDING the same working conditions for their their loved ones as in other districts. Maybe they should call their aldermen...chambers of commerce....girl scout troops....boy scout troops.....flash mob aerobic dancers....and the such to join in the support at the 16 district. These are the people who pay for police presence in their neighborhood while the officers assigned there are sent elsewhere. To places that have six times the number of officers.
Officer safety should be more of a concern of this administration.
Why would you annonce it to everyone??
Hello Union, our safety was only a concern during that brief time? What a joke, The union should be all over this, however they won't be.
The Brain Drain has to blame something. It can't blame their own incompetence.
Easier pickings when the herd is thin or alone, no regard for officer's safety once again.
Refuse to work 99
Sure, the threat is all gone. Respect, for the police, has been renewed. 10-99 cars have been an issue since the 70's. Trying to do more with less, in this profession, equals death.
I blame the extreme manpower shortage for slower response times, but I have a brain. "Officials" are hoping the citizens don't. More cars is great, but it doesn't do much if they're all one-man cars. Most of the time, unless it's just a simple car accident, or some paper job at the hospital, you'll need two cars to go because it's unsafe for a one-man car to go alone. We all know the "I'll advise" line to make it a one-man job, but that shouldn't be happening. If they're sending two officers, take the assist. No reason to help hide the manpower shortage. Be safe and be smart.
How many sacrificial police lives does it take to get it through this fucking brain trust CPD....You have police being murdered all over the country in broad daylight, in uniform, marked cars because of blm, vigilantes and mentals. CPD goes proactive by putting a second set of eyes, a gun and reactionary time at hand by partnering you up. Suddenly it's done away with. Chicago Police Dept. doesn't give a rats ass about it's officers or their well being. This is quite evident....Glad I only have a few more years in this shithole...that's if I make it not being offed as a 99 unit.
No officer in this city should ride 99 ever. I could give two shits about response time. Two coppers have to be assigned to the majority of the jobs that come in anyway.
Slower response times? For requests for supervisors? The only ones really working 99 were the Sgts. So what now, Sgts lives don't matter?
All it means is more money spent on gas as Squad consistently assigns backup to 99 units for most calls. So it just means POs are always driving from beat to beat. During these long-haul commutes in the larger, thinner districts I doubt the police presence zooming by counts as "deterrence" and certainly can't be proactive policing.
If the department says it's safe to do so then it must be safe to do so.
They've always got our best interests in mind.
I would rather work along hell just write paper all day long
Some years ago, I heard some car tell the dispatcher, "Squad, you keep pretending like I'm a two man car and I'll keep pretending like I'm going to these Jobs"...
Regardless, still no cops, no cars. They send two 99 units to jobs most of the time anyway. So now it's just using more gas.
"Chicago police officers no longer have to work in pairs,"
Kinda says it all right there. who knew you guys didn't want to work in pairs in the first place.
That's why we are actively recruiting people with multiple personalities. You could have a whole watch in one 99 unit.
Why is this even news for the public? The safety of the police is yet again taken for granted. Rahmie doesn't care about the safety of the police but only that he can use this as an excuse for crime. So pathetic and disgusting
They should just say that school is back in session and we don't have the man power to be 10-4. By the way having about 12 officers in schools across my district is the biggest waste. Let's talk about that.
Extremely bad idea.
Just another scam for the city to 'save' money.
Instead of hiring more officers, they're risking lives by sending one cop per call.
Considering police are targets, that SOB, Rahm and cohorts don't give a crap about officers' lives, 'which do matter.'
After all, it's not Rahm who is 'visiting' the west and south sides. He's safely tucked inside a cozy office. What does he do again? Mayor?
Stay fetal. Stay safe.
Let the thugs kill each other. They want to be bangers, knowing the risks, so be it.
Fuck them, we fought hard years back for 2 man units during night time hours and over the years coppers buckled and work 1 man units, bad bad move. Never give back anything, the city doesn't appreciate us, just look what Rahm wants to do with pensions,and health benefits.
So your "slower response time" will actually increase while you stand off and wait for backup.
Real recipe for success here. Rahm.
No, no. "All 10-4" was written in coppers' blood -- then, and now. Dangerous enough as it is.
02:06am , two heads are better than one dude.
When you ask to work 10-4 and they put you with someone who was a dog before going fetal and hasn't bathed for several days, it makes working 99 awful attractive.
So if you put two officers who dont give a shit cause of the bullshit, is it gonna make them drive to the job faster?
(OT) was driving today went to sos office on 87th and Harlem exited on Oketo, went north bound was turned around by bridgeview P.D. at 77th street said they had a huge 15,000 muslim gathering at Toyota park, for some event, keep the 2 man cars so far we have been lucky we know with wide open borders they are here just waiting till they are told to cause total mayhem. With lying hillary sick showing how weak she is and really look at everywhere the democrats rule, nothing but destruction and no jobs, at least with Trump he likes the police and the military, lets hope when he takes office he closes that border immediately and gets the illegal invaders removed swiftly, "without borders we don't have a country"
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Dickless merit bosses is the reason for Dept. woes.
Practice being Fetal and don't worry about the ghetto.
Swell.
Now who the fuck am I gonna blame for the soiled diaper shoved under the shotgun seat!!!!?????
Wet Fart Willie
You are way understaffed. Silly me took a trip into the City last week to meet friends from Minnesota. Walked from union Station to Michigan and Ohio. Never saw a Police car or PO. Then walked to Navy Pier and did see one car with one PO. Walked to Ohio and Wells and never saw a PO or car. After lunch walked to the Hancock Bldg. Again, no Police car or Police. Walked back to Michigan and Ohio and still did not see any Police presence. You guys are doing a great job of hiding. Stay safe.
B.S. 1st and 3rd watch should ALWAYS be 2 man cars!!!!!
Questions I only have 3 yrs on. I thought it was in a contract or order that we can refuse to 99 on 3rd and 1st watch? Except for days. Is this true?
stupid.. cops should always be in pairs for their protection...
slower response times? Oh well... hire more cops.
no need to risk their lives to service the mutrs faster
Two man better for answering calls, but just make it easier to assassinate 2 POs at once sitting side by side. All of these cop killings have been attacks on groups from 2 on up. In the car, restaurants, or events like Dallas.
To asshat:
It's in the media - didn't you click the link? Or was that too difficult for your ignorant ass?
What a joke. I'm so glad I'm retired and out of that fucked up state. Johnson was right when he said it the most disrespect for the police he has seen in decades. The disrespect comes city hall and the brass.
Heard that at Comsat R&D is working on a maniquin partner equipped with camera eyes and microphone ears. This is said to be your silent partner. And give the impression to suspecting attackers that that you are not alone.
Any confirmation of this??
Heck, either the CPD public relations office released this info to the media, or the media read it here on the SCC, but this was announced on the radio stations this afternoon....
Now every thug will know there's a possibility that officers will be responding ALONE to (some) assignments.
Be careful
All smoke and mirrors. The City of Chicago does not give a shit about officer safety. One man cars or two man cars. It doesnt matter. The City of Chicago does not replace every policemen who retires. The department is so short we closed three police districts, went from five areas to three areas, and disbanded many special units. We are short manpower period. Can't wait to retire. Be safe and stay safe.
Don't worry the clouted command staff will take care of ya. They know what they are doing from years of experience on the streets.
I like being 99, But they shouldn't announce it. Stay safe Internet.
....All units will be returning to regular deployment as of Monday, after the 15th anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks...
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Funny, our district started a week earlier, based on e-mails and supposed conversations with gold stars, who promised other gold stars that it was over for the 6th, otherwise we only would have had been able to men the 5 school cars we have, but NEVER saw anything in writing.
I'm still waiting to see the AFMN message officially telling us it's over. If only the exempts would read the order on e-mail it might help a little. Now we have personal e-mail, WOL/DSS e-mail, district inbox, document management system, C/O book, and a host of other places to look to try to find any information.
That's why we are actively recruiting people with multiple personalities. You could have a whole watch in one 99 unit.
9/12/2016 10:31:00 AM
OMG, too funny! Trying to man the day cars 2 man was next to impossible, more personalities in the car than seats....
Hey 0200PM I don't think the 2 man car during hours of darkness is memorialized in an order. It's a long time stated policy that in effect has become a contractual right due to the past practice and savings clause of the existing contract. Now a hundred idiots will say how wrong I am perhaps even some fop officials, but if you ask an attorney familiar with labor law he can set you straight. This policy started after Kenny Kaner was killed in 007 and I believe PO Wensel was killed on lake shore drive. At that time on the third watch we sometimes started out as a one man car and around 2000 (during summer longer daylight) we got called in and doubled up. I often thinks that sometime officers casually give up hard fought rights. After the shooting I mentioned, the wives and girlfriends of PO,s demonstrated at 007 and blocked squads from leaving the lot, demanding 2 man vehicles. The then commander (believe his name was Miles) got dumped for manhandling the ladies while he had a cigarette dangling from his mouth with his blouse open.
Well instead of having 3 cars in 016 manned by 2 officers for each car on midnights, there will be 6 99 units. More smoke and mirrors.
Two man better for answering calls, but just make it easier to assassinate 2 POs at once sitting side by side. All of these cop killings have been attacks on groups from 2 on up. In the car, restaurants, or events like Dallas.
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I don't know that there is any actual evidence that 2 man cars are safer. It might make some coppers feel safer, without actually doing so.
The most recent attack was on 3 cops.
"Officials blamed the partner requirement for slower response times to incidents in the city during a particularly violent summer."
They are right. More 10-4 cars with low manpower proved we didn't have enough cars to safely respond to calls especially since we gave to respond to an abundance of bs calls. If our union president wasnt such a idiot then he'd use those numbers to our advantage.
For you "stay fetal" losers. Maybe when your family calls for help and the "stay fetal" cops don't respond then you'll know how stupid you really sound.
Stay knowledgeable to your directives and do your job. If the bad guys escapes then so what. Stop chasing hot cars or any fleeing cars. Give a flash, they'll be parked sooner or later.
I remember the first nite (midnites), in 014th District in the early seventies, I
replaced by Ammo with 357 and kept it that way for years, I figured it's me or them, and 38 wasn't cutting it, if I had to kill the bastard.
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