He Blames Whom?
We still don't understand how this guy gets a platform as a "community activist," but the media gives him air time to spot bullshit like this:
- A 15-year-old boy was charged Thursday with three felonies in the Wednesday morning carjacking of a FedEx truck on Chicago's South Side.
Police said the teen held a 46-year-old female FedEx driver at gunpoint near West 75th and South Green streets in the city's Englewood neighborhood around 9:15 a.m. and stole her truck.
[...]
Andrew Holmes, a city crisis responder, said asked delivery companies to require all trucks to have two-man crews to deter thieves.
"I am pleading with FedEx and UPS. Put some helpers on the trucks. These packages are not worth them losing their life for," Holmes said.
Um, what now? Because certain people (or folks) can't control their baser instincts, parent(s) can't be bothered to teach their spawn that stealing is illegal and the community refuses to call out their own for behavior frowned upon by a civilized society, FedEx and UPS should have to put a second helper on the trucks to deter thieves?
How about Fed Ex spring for a few armed guards to blow these armed offenders away? That would be a deterrent we could get behind. Plus, the recidivism rate approaches zero in short order, so it's a win-win.
UPDATE: We amended our description of Holmes to a more generic "guy" seeing as how a number of readers have had halfway decent experiences with him on scenes and investigating crimes. We don't know about that "city crisis responder" thing though - sounds like a political angle, and we've never been shy about our feeling where politicians are concerned.
How about Fed Ex spring for a few armed guards to blow these armed offenders away? That would be a deterrent we could get behind. Plus, the recidivism rate approaches zero in short order, so it's a win-win.
UPDATE: We amended our description of Holmes to a more generic "guy" seeing as how a number of readers have had halfway decent experiences with him on scenes and investigating crimes. We don't know about that "city crisis responder" thing though - sounds like a political angle, and we've never been shy about our feeling where politicians are concerned.
Labels: dumb ideas
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
155 Comments:
You can't blame the offenders!!!!!
788 according to Hey JackAss!
Chicago's worst will do their messiest, but Chiraq will fall a few bodies short in the next 48 hours.
My money is still on 797 by midnight Saturday.
I have had dealings on scenes with Holmes. He's a decent guy especially for a community activist. Usually tells it how it is.
Q: where is Chalkie?
Did the streets claim him too?
A proactive police force would put a few of theirs undercoveron the trucks to catch the punks.
Too bad this is Chicago.
Chicago shootings getting attention form national publications, like American Spectator... https://spectator.org/the-terrorism-we-refuse-to-fight/ to London Newspapers ....Rahmbo in for 2017 Trump surprise
A remote controlled CROWS turret is not that expensive.
If the guys in brown or FedEx start shooting the punks, the punks will just execute the driver as they steal the truck.
Do you really think that they care about human life?
Yes. Armed guard killing teenage robbers would deter those robberies , put these fuckers in body bags. That's a start
OT....Did the city make that big payment to our pension
that was required by the end of 2016?
Side job as a door gunner on a UPS truck? Hell yeah!
SCC, I have to say that you are wrong this time. Andrew Holmes is actually a stand up guy. I'm not sure what he's getting at about the whole extra help thing on FedEx, UPS, etc; etc, but he totally backs the police. You'll never hear him badmouth the police. He constantly is on the news telling people to turn the offenders into the police. The victim service that he works for came into the academy a couple years ago for a Det. class and the first thing he did was apologize to the class of Detectives for how the community treats the police. I know he has worked with and helped various detectives with getting offenders to turn themselves in and finding missing persons. Again, he is a stand up guy not to be mistaken for some of the frauds out there claiming to be community activists.
McDick-Wad will be on 60 Minutes this Sunday:
http://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/mccarthy-sees-crisis-in-chicagos-murder-rate/
I thought the same thing. Hire another guy to watch the truck? That will turn in to 2 or 3 guys after the thugs rob and beat the " extra guy ". I am so tired of this man commenting on every murder, shooting, robbery and all types of social ills. He has found his way in to police news conferences, always looming in the background . Is he employed by the city ?
SCC. Actually Andrew Holmes is a decent guy. I dealt with him a few times. He is not anti-police. He is trying to help in good faith. He is not trying to make a name for himself to make money like many black activists. He is well grounded and was just trying to help. Maybe a Navy Seal in the back of truck would deter thefts after he killed the first bad guy.
Come on now ole Andy really meant get that helper from the "Community" so he can hand all the "good " packages to an unarmed assailant. Now we have increased economic activity in the area plus 2 new jobs and no gun violence . Now from a Lib activist's point of view its a win win win
Andrew Holmes is not a community activist like the BLM
Andrew Holmes is very well liked in the detective division, he has been very helpful. There is no one that is his equal.
I couldn't get any video to play, so I don't know if there is anything else he had to say, but I hardly think telling ups and fedex to double up for their safety is something bad
I think he is reinforcing the fact that there are a lot of little jag offs out there that will rob them
Save your attacks for jebidiah brown
I can tell you are not a Dick or someone who is on major Crime Scenes all the time. Andrew Holmes is Pro Police and will not make excuses for criminal actions. Actively try's to get witnesses to talk to the police.
Just how is having a second victim in the delivery truck going to deter an armed hype with a gun?
We already have a good number of ODPO's doing side jobs driving around and watching FedEx and UPS trucks in 011 and 015.
My first question would be:
Was the FedEx vehicle a Company truck or a non-union contractor? The Corporate FedEx and UPS bosses have the money to burn to add an Armed Security person to ride with the driver. The mom and pop owned franchise stores not so much.
Point 2: A good number of the trucks from these 2 companies I see on a daily basis are usually sitting empty with the damn door open while the driver makes a quick delivery. In the Loop the doors are usually closed because the driver is usually inside a high rise for 20 or 30 minutes dropping off multiple packages on different floors.
in lieu of the police spokesman, Andrew Holmes is a standup guy.....at least he has a legitimate job.....
Simple solution, fed ex and ups charge a secority fee for high crime area deliveries. Something akin to what insurance companies do, charge higher rates in high crime neighborhoods.
A remote controlled CROWS turret is not that expensive.
12/30/2016 12:25:00 AM
Still requires someone behind the joystick to press the trigger. The fucker will lock on and track anything thats moving, not the best choice when friendlies are around. But good thinking tho.
Like some of the above posters, Holmes is NOT the problem. He is a decent guy and trying to make a differnce. He does not always have the right idea like in this case but no one is right always.
Fed Ex and UPS is not the problem either. The problem is the City and it is the responsibilty of the City to enforce its laws so that street thugs are locked up Preckwinkle and Rahm, you assholes.
IMHO CPD should be running some decoy trucks and a car or two nearby and get some heads. I know UPS would drop a truck off for use and I bet FED EX would too. I mean real trucks and not leased for the season from Ryder.
Plus they could drop phony package boxes with a message inside: This is a decoy package placed on your porch by CPD attempting to keep your neighborhood safe from street crime. Thank you. Rahm and Ed could claim it an innovative crime fighting strategy.
Bring the Second Deputy out of retirement. He would love it.
I have the cure. Stop delivering there
As much as I hate shitheads and community agitators ehh activists, Andrew Holmes is a nice guy.
McCarthy please go back to New York!! You destroyed this Dept, and you are still bashing the blue shirts on tv, FOP buy him a one way ticket to JFK Airport!
THats a good idea, have security ride along and shoot the teen offenders.Then mama sues everybody and thier brother. In Chicago pick up your package at the Fed x /UPS office. No more deliveries made. Delivery companies love it, cut overhead.
Ghetto routes need a trunk monkey.
The other obvious option would be for UPS/Fedex and others to simply refuse to deliver to Zipcodes that have high crime rates. When an item is destined for such an address send a notice to come to the distribution point to pick it up in person.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT....Did the city make that big payment to our pension
that was required by the end of 2016?
12/30/2016 12:36:00 AM
Hello Kenny Hauser,Dean Angelo,Mike Lappe answers please!
How do we find out merit for the detectives and LT's?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Q: where is Chalkie?
Did the streets claim him too?
12/30/2016 12:21:00 AM
I'm still here. I haven't been this busy in awhile, but the OT will come in handy (tax season around the corner).
Thanks for asking...
Chalkie
How about they start using all that federal money to train "the community" how to behave like civilized human beings.
Recently retired. A southside dick for over 20 years. Many, many, interactions with Andrew Holmes. As far as"community activist" go there are none better. He's always conducted himself as a gentleman and will do what he can to assist the police.
Holmes is a good guy. Stop ripping him. He's out there trying to improve things and not by blaming the Police. He's not an Obama,Jackson or Sharpton. We need all the support we can get. He's on our side. Leave him alone.
OT - In yet another slap in the face to every working cop that aspires (usually in vain) to someday actually earn a gold star - take a look at the new AMC message simply titled "Special Order." Robin Robinson decided that the customary title afforded all other civilians of Director wasn't fitting for her. Instead, she sticks it to all the sworn officers by using the little of Commander. God forbid she be rightfully associated with the other politically appointed civilian Directors. She has NO right to be called Commander.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
SCC. Actually Andrew Holmes is a decent guy. I dealt with him a few times. He is not anti-police. He is trying to help in good faith. He is not trying to make a name for himself to make money like many black activists. He is well grounded and was just trying to help. Maybe a Navy Seal in the back of truck would deter thefts after he killed the first bad guy.
12/30/2016 03:02:00 AM
I agree. He really is a decent guy but when I heard him make this comment on the news, he sounded stupid.
Nowhere did he mention individual responsibility or parental responsibility, but rather seemed to be blaming UPS and FEDEX, kinda like "I told you so"!
Perhaps, FedEx and UPS could just 'redline' the south side. Like lenders used to do.
After dealing with him on a few scenes, and seeing him on tv, I ve never seen him talk bad about the Police. He is not like that little retard Ja Mal. This guy actually wants to help with out interfering, and with out bashing the Police. That's rare now a days.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
McDick-Wad will be on 60 Minutes this Sunday:
http://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/mccarthy-sees-crisis-in-chicagos-murder-rate/
12/30/2016 01:58:00 AM
McEgo says that part of the problem is that the department stopped McComStat!
I almost always agree with SCC, but this one is a little odd. Of all the activist, politicians, flake flathers, and circus clowns, Andrew Holmes is always respectful, fair, and willing to listen to all the facts before pointing fingers. I will agree with you SCC that what he is saying this time is not how I would address this and I don't believe fed ex or UPS should be left responsible for this type of dispicable behavior, but I'm willing to give Holmes a pass on this. We have plenty of battles to go at, this isn't on of them. I can truly say I do not believe Andrew Holmes to be anti-Police. Let's face it, it was a very busy weekend, shit busy year for Mr. Holmes. I can say the busy bloody year falls on the doorstep of Rahm, and his puppet special ed.
Sorry SCC but I think this time you put a good apple in with a bag of rotten apples.
Some how some way he is on the city payroll.
Andrew Holmes is being groomed by the media as the next Jessie Jackson. Any of you that call him a "stand up guy" are soft as puppy shit. Now go put on your hair gel.
Holmes is a good guy who is very pro police. I spoke with him many times at crime scenes. He actually backs the police, what we're doing. He is our friend.
I agree with a few other posters here in saying that i think you got this one wrong SCC. Andrew Holmes actually is a decent guy out here trying to do the right thing. Never heard him once blame the police for anything that happening out here in the streets but instead calls out the thugs and community to step up to the plate and do whats right.
I agree with the proposal to add an employee who 'rides shotgun' on FedEx and UPS trucks in Chicago's Turd infested neighborhoods. There are several benefits to this including:
1) Increased employment for low skill workers and less complaints about failure to deliver.
2) Awareness throughout the nation that Chicago has a serious problem might help to shame local government into making positive changes.
When major shippers like Amazon add a 'security' fee for packages sent to Chicago's worst zip codes to pay for the truck riders, folks will start waking up to the cost of the hot mess they find themselves in.
https://www.google.com/amp/chicago.suntimes.com/news/package-delivery-driver-robbed-at-gunpoint-in-south-chicago/amp/?client=safari
Great Job CPD in apprehending the bad guy !!!
That's what Holmes should be talking about. The good work the Officers are doing regardless of the hatred towards Police Officers.
Put a second person on the truck that travel in certain neighborhoods? Staying with this idea where would recruit this second person from of course the neighborhood. The fake revs with clout will have candidates for these spots put them on the trucks surprise no robberies.Welcome to 2017 and a new type of paying protection/extortion to conduct business.
Yeah, add an extra guy at everyone else's expense because one single segment of society cannot or will not abide by the laws of civilized people.
J.J.
If the delivery companies refuse to deliver to certain zip codes or set up "safe" delivery locations where the trucks can be secured while delivering packages what can the communities say? They are racist? Have a PR team ready to go countering that position with the number of packages lost to theft and assaults on drivers.
Out here in the hinterlands we have a real neat system for remote delivery. It is called neighbors. My UPS and FedX drivers know where to deliver packages for my house when I am not home. This guy has a farm and barn the driver knows there is somebody there and leaves the packages there. Of course this requires a relationship between civilized persons to live together for mutual benefit. An idea seemed to be lost on certain creatures in society.
Question - does the city pay Andrew Holmes a salary ? ? ?
What is this "helper" supposed to do? Is he armed? Can he shoot at these robbers?
I'm with Andrew. He has been in the game for a while and gets it. He actually cares and is not creating some platform for some political position or ownership within a beer distributorship ....
He may be off on this one comment but overall is of good character. We need more like him.
What will they say when FedEx stops delivering there, they shoplifted themselves into a food desert, they go to their restaurant s and get served thru bulletproof glass. Pretty soon they will want the same for us, after all we're all the same
He is looking at this big picture. He is trying to mmake a name for himself. I've dealt with him and have heard him speak from both sides of his face. He is cultured in the way of politics and can talk his way into a conversation but his end game is all about him.
He has a JJ Sr.way about him. And they both share the snakes tongue.
Bill Hanhardt passed away this morning. RIP.
He's not a bad guy nor is he wrong on this one. He never said the asshole that robbed the driver was right. He asked for someone with the driver for protection. No different than many of us who think ET's should have someone in the car with them.
Anonymous said...
Gang investigations is the new citywide tact teams
12/29/2016 08:37:00 PM
HAHA You are right. And how do you think that occurred. Leadership my friend!!
Who needs to collect intelligence and stop violent acts of crime before they occur. Its all about ISR's baby!! A real patrol unit lead by a real patrol political hack!! Rock and Roll on CPD
Holmes is a decent guy, I second that. WAYYYY better than the last crew ... Jessie, that fat drug dealer from New York, etc
Perhaps he meant "hire that extra person to guard the truck" from Morrison Security.
In Mr Holmes defense this is the first time I have heard of same say something semi-stupid.
He is not typical Obumma or Green type activist.
I don't believe he has a personal agenda like the others do.
I give him a pass on this one.
As for delivery drivers, a snub fortyfour magnum should do just fine.
Sometimes the only way to fight fire is with firepower.
Equal the playing field.
I can't fault the guy.
If you remember he used to troll homicides and hang out for the news cameras.
He would approach the family and pretend to have info.
The next step was complaining about the mayor and police.
RAHM rather bribe an enemy so he makes up a spot so a city paycheck hit his pocket.
If you notice PHELGER does not protest the mayor anymore. FR faker goes on Michigan avenue and bothers tax paying businesses. Faker has multiple grant going through his non-for profit which have no dealing with the catholic church.
If RAHM need a stooge to cry about gun violence he call the so called holy men to rally the voters.
Has either put a dent in ENGLE-HOOD? Again i could care less
If Obummer had a son, he would look like this kid
and would not be in Harvard and would be doing stick ups.
Just like Treyvon Martin remember?
Own that sh;t son!!!
You wanna talk all that sh;t "if I had a son...."
who was robbing liquor stores and beating on uniformed
police officer while trying to disarm him, then try again.....
Own that Berry!!!
You kinda quiet about the genocide your hometown
is putting itself through.
Let me guess, it's the Ruskies fault???
"Door Gunner" - I like it
there should be an increase in postage to send a package to a combat zone. this will pay for the extra manpower.
There was also a postal worker that was robbed in 10 a few weeks ago. The national media will be on Chicago after the final homicide totals come in for 2016.
Had a family member, we grew up in Chicago Lawn/Marquette Park in 50's and 60's, visiting a few Christmases ago. He was appalled that UPS used a golf cart with a small trailer to deliver packages at Christmas time. The thought of those packages sitting in a trailer, unattended was too much for him to comprehend. Hard to believe, but there are vast swaths of this Country where life is calm and peaceful.
Almost ruined my keyboard with coffee with that idea of a door gunner for the UPS trucks.
Guards on a FedEx truck??
Yeah, right. First one that caps some AH will get VanDyked by Kummy the dumby Fox.
"Kilt him ova' a few packages!!! Is when he was.........THLA....(turning his life around)"
And on another stupid note Fakey Mikey is gonna have his minions carry crosses down Michigan Ave.
I guess the tourists and the the Mag Mile residents need to know how black lives don't matter to Gang Thugs.
Soooo your gonna go down there why ? Hey just go and take a collection basket you douche bag all you want is money anyway. How about YOU take your crosses and your shit show back over to your "faith community" where you are doing your missionary work and let the savages your trying to "convert" see the fruits of THEIR labor you pandering asshat
Once again, as with the Police being the "Problem", it now appears the Victims are the problem and that problem will be solved by making more Victims available to the criminals. Then, when we have an incident where two Fed-Ex employees are killed at once; well then we can come up with putting three on the next truck. And of course, the customers will absorb the cost. How about this plan: No Deliveries to Ghetto Areas! Every day we draw closer to No Go Zones as exist in Europe. There it is over religion and Sharia Law, and here it will be over an out of control population. Chicago/Wilmette Values; Appease the Minority at the expense of the Majority. It makes sense in a Democrat Party Run Republic. Baby"G"
Here's an idea for a money making device to all you techno geeks out there. Instead of package delivery drones, how about armed reconnaissance drones to come up from the truck and fly top cover?
Actually Andrew Holmes is a very decent guy that supports the police. He tells it like it is and doesn't blame the gun or police for all the shooting like other activists we all know. He focuses on all community issues and not just shooting or police involved. Listen to him when there is any type of police shooting he has stated "Don't point a weapon at police if you don't want to get shot" or " drop the weapon when told to do so by police". I was shocked to here those statements coming from a community activist. He actually stands with CPD. I think his intentions were good, but those companies need security for certain areas or a sting like years ago with undercovers riding in the trucks.
Actually, I think Andrew Holmes is saying that exactly. It has become too easy for these robberies to turn deadly and he knows it. He is warning everyone. Andrew Holmes is not the bad guy.
Andrew Holmes helped my case and was a gentleman. Holmes never asked for anything from me, Holmes just asked how he could help. I see Holmes face on the news almost daily. Hard working man.
>>> Andrew Holmes, a city crisis responder, said asked delivery companies to require all trucks to have two-man crews to deter thieves. I am pleading with FedEx and UPS. Put some helpers on the trucks. These packages are not worth them losing their life for," Holmes said.' <<<
Hey Andrew, how about pleading with the Fuckin' Parents in your so-called 'community' to control their spawn! Like....oh....Not To Hijack a truck at goddamn Gun Point! And maybe ask Mommy Dearest what the hell they were doing when junior strolled out the door with a Gun in his waistband.
And 'Andy' you better think twice about whose life is only at danger here. It ain't just the DRIVER, but that Honor Student / future Architect -- Doctor -- Nuclear Physicist -- aspiring cRap Star, who was 'good at Basketball' too, as one these days the kid is gonna face a legally armed driver -- in spite of any 'no gun' company policy for drivers.
Then what are you going whine about Andrew? That the Truck Driver didn't have the Right to protect his life? Yeah, that will go over good.
All FedEx and UPS drivers should be required to wear body cameras...
Not sure why you have it out for Andrew Holmes. He seems to be trying to help while acknowledging parts of chicago are the wild wild west. Is it ever possible that someone might just care about this city and be sick and tired about the killings and crime that occur on a daily basis. I have yet to hear him talk disparagingly about the police and usually tries helping the police in solving crime. You guys are wrong this time
Maybe FedEx and UPS should just stop delivering to those neighborhoods and make the recipient go to the warehouse to pick them up. Let the neighborhood deal suffer the consequences.
Sure, make the private companies pay for their own security.
No one wants to spend money on prisons because they cost too much.
Now you'll see the real cost of not sending criminals to prison.
Suckers.
How would a helper make a difference? Then we have two victims? If the 14 year old offender has a gun then a helper will have no impact? What driver will risk his/her life for merchandise? Eventually, drivers will refuse to serve certain areas? Or should Fed ex offer combat pay? Ballistic vests? Crime is growing and the CPD cannot keep up with the increase. Johnson wants recruits to meet community leaders? How will that impact the crime rate? Politicians are silent or fetal. The mayor ignores the crime and focuses attention on immigration.How low can we go?
So...it's a jobs program! Just like the good Rev. Jesse's jobs program back in the day, creating jobs in south side butcher shops - Hire a brother, or "Burn, baby, burn"...
F...big blow these thugs away already, 15 years old, parents are where?
McDick-Wad will be on 60 Minutes this Sunday:
http://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/mccarthy-sees-crisis-in-chicagos-murder-rate/
12/30/2016 01:58:00 AM
Dart, Precwinkle and Raccoon Eyes will duke it out for Mayor. Guess who will win that one. Garry is running for Sherriff because he is too stupid to know he is still being used.
We continue to stir the same turds around in the swamp. Time to drain it.
Now if only we could find a Sherlock for this Holmes we could get to the bottom of all these murders. What do you think mayor twerp or do you still believe that this epidemic will not spread to your big money campaign donors?
Can I apply for the job? I was a door gunner on the space shuttle.
Yeah blow away a stickup man while working for FedEx or Amazon who will shortly afterward disavow armed retaliation regardless of the law and deny indemnification while Do We Fleece and How is at your door with notice of Federal Law Suit for killing pookie who only had a BB gun.
Home Depot (desperate) fired employees for following a shop lifter into the parking lot where he dropped the merchandise, fled in a vehicle that they got a license plate to 'id him and the local PD locked him up.
I remember when Clark oil had their stations getting stuck up every other day in '68-9. Hired some off duty guys to sit in their cars with shotguns. The off duty guy (can't remember his name) was sitting in the Clark at 2601 south state when a guy with a surplus .45 stuck up the station. Almost made it to the getaway car. Twelve gauge wins each and every time. Robberies came to a predictable sudden halt.
Great headline:
PUTIN LAUGHS OFF OBAMA
RUSSIANS MOCK 'POLITICAL CORPSE'
'ANGRY AND SHALLOW-BRAINED'
From Drudge Report:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-30/putin-stunner-we-will-not-expel-anyone-we-refuse-sink-obamas-level
barry is just a total idiot! Wonder when rahm walked out of Trumps office after groveling bet trump and his people were looking at the little ballerina and laughing knowing the full power of the new DOJ will put the "smackdown" on rahm and his crew including the "50" cowards and "crazy toni" with tommy "I'm a scared failure Dart in the sidecar!
barry is like a spoiled little girl full of rage because she did not get her dolls! The sissy's that are in the government better move over we will have "change we can count on!" God Bless Trump cleaning our swamp,and as always please Lord bless police officers everywhere!!
I don't see why Andrew Holmes is the topic of this story. Although its not the greatest idea, he is only trying to help by offering a possible solution to the problem. Who else out there is offering any solutions other than "more police" or "more diverse police" or "better trained police". I have seen him on several crime scenes speaking to media and people on the street. I can't remember a single incident where he said anything negative about the police, or questioned the CPD in any manner. That includes a few shaky I'm not sure what his motivation is, but its definitely not to hurt the police. With all the police negativity going on right now, should we be attacking the only activist in the black community that seems to like us?
Stagecoach and train robberies of the new old westside.
For the Trolls: Juvenile arrests are meaningless. The 15 yr old is back home. No penalty. He's back to the robbery stickup circuit.
Watch for a few of Rahm's 50 Sockmonkeys draft a resolution "demanding" additional hiring "from the community" that FedEx-UPS serve.
New Dets get ready for these city crisis agitators and interrupters, they were invited and will be lecturing you at the academy.
They know more than you.
DON'T ASK QUESTIONS.
800 will be the number for 2016
Andrew Holmes is a good man and very nice to the police. It would actually be nice if there were more men like him in any community.
Holmes is an actual community activist. He might not be the most articulate, but he doesn't spew rhetoric for the sake of it.
Someone one riding "shotgun" literally.
The packages made him do it!!
(OT) So this is what the scum bastards on capitol hill think of police:
Painting depicting cops as animals displayed on Capitol Hill
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/30/painting-depicting-cops-as-animals-displayed-on-capitol-hill.html
Chosen to be displayed at capitol these pos that paint this and the cowards that allow this should all be sanctioned! Another in the long line of the barry obama hate police items that are allowed! Think it cannot happen in Chicago? look at how breandan reilly took campaign cash from trump then removed Trumps sign and of course refused to give Trump his money back!
Was the pension payment made required by law for the police pension fund? Kenny hauser, dean speak up!! I am so disgusted after seeing this shit, coppers stay fetal fuck it the communities that allow this type of hate police paintings and other things do not deserve officers risking their lives to protect scum such as this! how about here the aldermen all have gold badges they can hook up with our very own gold star club and patrol together, put flaky Jackson the rest in patrol vehicles also fuck it we are totally done! Trump please drain all the swamps start in Chicago!!
Take the mayors body guards and deploy them to the trucks that operate in the ghetto. Let the Mayor protect himself.
Where does Andrew Holmes get his money. He's at the scene of every murder or shooting no matter if it's day or night. Does he work or is he raking in grant monies?
Frankly, do not want to see FedEx rates go up - and exactly how will having two in the truck help when a gun is pointed at both? Geez.
--No Cop Here
My sentiment exactly!
It's only a matter of time until the current administrative heads of this department (Won't call them cops) start spewing more edicts that Andrew Holmes has received a blackberry and he should be notified of all major incidents. Soon to follow will be jibberish jamal, he'll get one too and will be notified of all police involved shootings and conferenced in on all use of force incidents. They already want the alder-pukes notified but only a couple suckass DSS and watch commanders do it. Most have the fuck them philosophy. Happy New Year boys and girls. Keep your guard up, take care of each other and police smartly. We will prevail.
Obviously, the problem lies with all the racist oppressors who flaunt their wealth (gained from exploiting the blacks and browns) by ordering things online and having them delivered to their doorsteps. The ONLY way to correct this injustice is to give every disenfranchised household free internet, and free Amazon gift cards, so they too can receive things via delivery trucks. This will, of course, be paid for by taxes placed on other orders NOT purchased with these free government cards, because thats the only FAIR way. If you think that this program is wrong, then you are clearly racist and part of the problem. And just in case... /sarcasm off/
This Holmes guy seems to be a lot better than the other fools we see in TV. Holmes is no fake father flaker. In fact I'm guessing fake flaker makes Holmes sick. Holmes seems a lot more intelligent too.
Yeah a Second Person is needed in a Hostile area , As we said in the Military A DOOR GUNNER with a M-60 to Blow These little Assholes to Kingdom Come , He was right a second Person is needed while the other Delivers the Mail.
Of course, left out of the conversation is how highly valued FED-EX thinks their employees are. chirp.chirp chirp,yeah
At Lawmaker’s Behest, Painting of Cops as Pigs Graces U.S. Capitol.
The congressman in question is Rep. Lacy Clay (D-MO).
http://ijr.com/2016/12/766256-painting-of-cops-as-pigs-hung-proudly-in-u-s-capitol/
If cops werent wating time with parking tickets and pot arrests and now weed tickets, if LEO wasn't wasting resources with permits for RIGHTS which only serve to hassle the already law abiding people anyway, a LOT more effort would be available for warrant serving, which is what is supposed to the be the core of LE in the first place. Prohibition of alcohol demonstrated the complete lack of merit that exits with prohibition of THINGS. Heck, Chicago and Illinois tried even absolute prohibition of gun carriage, and what resulted? Well, certainly not the secure environment those supporting prohibition promised, right? Right? So how about admitting that prohibition in the name of 'prevention' is just not what it portends to be. In fact, the only thing prevented is the exercise of right - and cops are the ones who end u dying over this pathetic drama.
Stealing was considered a "petty" crime, while just carrying a firearm, a right, was deemed the crime of the century. Today, the same damn thing is happening except it is "drugs" rather than alcohol called the root cause, that if just addressed with prohibition, all would be well. Here is a thought, lets put that THEFT back on top of the list as the High Crimes. Theft of Rights being the highest of all crimes. Sic our Men and Women in Uniform on those who are stealing, and set other Citizens on par - blowing away those who engage in High Crimes right there in the moment when and where the criminal is caught red handed!
Instead of institutional THEFT, oh like EBT revenue redistribution, has to be exposed for what it is. Government is not charity! Oh Oh there will be MORE stealing if we do not have taxes taken and then given to them ( you know, do the stealing for them). Bologna! Let them try to steal and see them face an armed population empowered to defend against that stealing!
Cops have so much more authority over the POLITICIANS than they realize. Chicago cops are demonstrating it out of poor morale. I wish you guys would do it out of empowerment! Forget the drugs, forget the guns. Forget the "prevention" congame. You are sent on a duck mission when sent to prevent. Instead, do stay fetal until you witness and or are told of an actual crime, a theft, a rape a murder. Focus on what DID happen, rather than trying to stop what might. DO that and watch the people commend you more than you could ever dream of.
I believe his father worked in crime lab as a sketch artist and was very good at that. I used him several times as a detective.
We need more CeaseFire activists in these dangerous communities to stop the spread of gun violence.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I have had dealings on scenes with Holmes. He's a decent guy especially for a community activist. Usually tells it how it is.
12/30/2016 12:19:00 AM
Was gonna say...he's been the one I remember that has either defended police or at least not been anti-police on every thing. Leave him alone.
Anonymous said...
Q: where is Chalkie?
Did the streets claim him too?
12/30/2016 12:21:00 AM
He's too busy to blog, I'd wager.
Fuck that, cheaper to just arm all the drivers....tight grouping
Seems like the wild west.....when stagecoaches had to add guards to protect life and property.They did it then.....do like the sting strategy though!
How exactly will another unarmed person on a fed ex or ups truck prevent an armed robbery? All that they would be doing is putting one more person at risk.
Now if they're adding an armed helper, that's another story.
"Bill Hanhardt passed away this morning. RIP."
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You mean Bill Hanhardt, who ran a jewelry theft ring for the mob for many years while masquerading as a cop? That Bill Hanhardt?
IMO, he represents everything that was ever wrong with the Chicago Police Department. Good riddance.
ssc please print before everybody get on the holmes is a great guy express train I have a friend who is a suburban cop and was assigned to the wedge unit(West Suburban Enhanced Drug Gang Enforement , they are regularly in Maywood and broadview doing gods work , homles is not your friend and used regularly hang around with dope boys from Maywood and broadview. he also has relatives including brother that is a vice load n sells dope. so before you start printing stupid stuff that are lies ,it might be smart to contact a suburban law enforcement official who is in the know. retired marine core gen mattis is a good guy holmes is not
Anonymous said...
Ghetto routes need a trunk monkey.
12/30/2016 07:02:00 AM
>Grin!<
🐒
>WHAP!<
😲💩👍
Theiving asshole with a big knot on his head
collapses onto the horn of the delivery truck
he just tried to jack...
🎶BEEEEEEEEP!🎶
William Hanhardt, a once-heralded cop who became the highest ranking Chicago police official convicted of wrongdoing for running a sophisticated crew of jewelry thieves who stole millions, died early Friday. He was 88.
Holmes always seems like a good guy.
That's it!
Let's double shipping charges because Dude needs a fuckin armored convoy to deliver his on-line purchases.
Normally agree with most posts but this one. Andrew Holmes is a good man who suffered an unspeakable tragedy. He's always been a gentleman and not antipolice. God Bless he and his family doing this holiday season.
Theres credible people talking from 35th street saying that a new order is being drafted by the white shirts along with copa, alderman, the mayor, and the doj that when encountering a shooter, we are to shoot the gun and not the isiot holding the gun because after all guns are the ones to blame and not the shooter. Allegedly guns are atking hostages and forcing them to pull the trigger. I believe their best evidence is from blazing saddles where the sheriff's gun takes him prisoner. If you havent seen that movie than you will never learn bc supposedly they are using that scene as a primary tool in training on how to prevent future crimes commited by guns. (If you believe that one then ill tell you the one about michelle blaming the spoon and fork for americas obesity problem. WOW.
Anonymous said...
Someone one riding "shotgun" literally.
12/30/2016 12:11:00 PM
From "bite your fucking nose off" distance to
about a dozen paces, there is NOTHING more
fearsome than a 12ga. coach gun.
Well... Exception being a 10ga. coach gun.
Try not to pop the caps on both
tubes at the same time.
You'll be stumbling backwards like
McDrunky after somebody gives him a good shove
for acting an ass...
"Hillbilly Load"
Bird-shot and ground windshield glass...
E/R medics will have to peel that formerly melted plastic
off that ass to pick the glass and bird-shot
out of it.
M/Fer on the business end will be doing some
street corner preaching in between bouts of
that ol' ass just-a-achin' every time the weather changes...
Y'all with family from hardscrabble "Yeller Clay" places
know the deal...
Common sense.
MAKE a hard-head m/fer NOT want to do dumb shit
like pawing things that don't belong to them.
"WUHHH! All I saw wuz FIRE, Office!"
Of course you did...
Just like the old stagecoaches. put a extra seat in and a man with a sawed off shotgun and a handgun.
>>We still don't understand how this mope gets a platform as a "community activist,"...
Simple really. People who say what the press people themselves would like to say get a platform. That is all. It's them speaking through their selected surrogate.
And... good guy bad guy, agree or don't agree, all the same. Again, the press puts on people who say what they want to hear.
If I'm not mistaken, Andrew Holmes has lost a daughter too murder. That is his motivation
I agree use a trunk monkey they are very effective....check them out on youtube.
If you shaved Holmes' head he would look like the heavyweight boxer George Foreman. Anyone else see the resemblance or should I just go and lay down until this passes...
And blacks truly, with a straight face, ask why no businesses want to move into their ghetto hoods. This is why. The price of doing business in the ghetto is doubled compared to suburbs. Uncivilized savages.
Off Topic
I was just reflecting about the cut in my health care by the mayor when it dawned on me that while I as a retiree am effected every working police officer who hope to retire is also effected. Your retirement just got more expensive thanks to Rahm.
Now had Ari owned a junk of the insurance business here Rahm would never have dared cut the insurance.
I have started emailing my alderman and I have asked all of my friends and relatives to also do so and ask to have the insurance reinstated. The city council could restore the insurance any time they chose to.
Well if any of you working police have a minute email your aldercreature hey it cant hurt and ask your family and friends to also do so. The Rahm did not just hurt the retirees it also hurt those that will someday retire
Hey jackass has 791 killed. I can't believe it, but 800 is possible. All of Friday night left and Saturday (New Years eve). That's a hell of a lot of lives lost in one year in an American city.
What district does Andrew Holmes work in or represent I wanna work there
Andrew has actually helped the Staties on a few cases. Not the most articulate activist, but he means well. Wish there were more activist that wanted to help solve a crime rather than make a name for themselves or a headline.
Robin Robinson is now a Commander!!?? This reeks of a gold braid pension grab! Is that what's happening?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Where does Andrew Holmes get his money. He's at the scene of every murder or shooting no matter if it's day or night. Does he work or is he raking in grant monies?
12/30/2016 12:42:00 PM
Residuals from his movies. Oh wait, that was John holmes.
I'm a detective in area central. Andrew Holmes has never been anything more than a gentleman and someone else who is always willing to help.
LOL Yeah Holmes is Getting Paid by the Ballerina to be at every shooting scene Now , Meanwhile - ( Ja-Mal Eddies Son ) gotta job Manning the Phones at the Police Snitch Call in Center. , The New Chicago it went to The Dogs
After watching "Tombstone" the other day for about the 1,000th time I found this quote quite relavent:
Wyatt Earp: How the hell did we get ourselves into this?
It's the shakedown.
He wants UPS & FedEx to hire more people... sorry, more of "His people".
12/30/2016 12:31:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Where does Andrew Holmes get his money. He's at the scene of every murder or shooting no matter if it's day or night. Does he work or is he raking in grant monies?
12/30/2016 12:42:00 PM
Morrison Security in Alsip. Very interesting company & ownership.
I find it very easy to believe the shithead media would "edit" an interview with anyone, Mr Holmes in this case, to make him look/sound like an asshole. When in doubt, blame the shitlib media.
I know Holmes is a good guy but I'd like to know how much he gets paid for that position and why exactly is his job? How many hours does he work? Does he have an office? Because I heard he gets paid $180,000 yr from a good source. Just wondering if it's true and what he does to earn it. Being a good guy at a shooting doesn't earn him that kind of cash
At least he is trying to create jobs, een if it means that package delivery to Chiraq will cost more.
He knows that extortionist Jesse Jackson's days are numbered and Al Sharpton may flee the country to avoid prosecution. He would then become the nation's Chief Poverty Pimp.
What would a practical answer to this problem be?
A. Hire enough cops to cope with the problem and motivate and protect them then prosecute the offenders. Hear that Ms. Foxx and Mr. Dart.
or
B. Get Sergeant Dave S. to come out of retirement and pose as a FedEx driver.
Andrew Holmes is a good man who helps a lot of family, friends and relatives of Chiraq's fallen get through their grief. It's not cool to bash a man who gives so much of himself to others, and having had to deal last year with his own daughter being an innocent victim of senseless gunfire, he walks it like he talks it. I have nothing but respect for Andrew Holmes, as do a great many Chicagoans.
Hey, 12/30/2016 12:30:00 PM, why don't YOU call them up and report back to us?
I get that this is the EVERYBODY HATES US POOR COPPERS, forum. Still, any objective observer can see that Holmes has done far more good for police than bad.
Did Holmes think up that "city crisis responder" tag himself, or is he getting a paycheck now?
Now UPS trucks will call in about certain deliveries. "Uh, 10-99, squad..."
This robbing caught on for Christmas season -- but will become permanent now.
I know lots of tradesmen who are "booked up today, can't schedule" calls to certain areas...your faucet not worth their life.
The No-Go Zones -- Zones Urbains Sensibiles, as the official French government atlas catalogs them -- continue to expand. Nothing, no one is safe.
Maybe he can do what former Chicago Firefighter Russ Ewing did. He oversaw 115 surrenders of suspects wanted for murder to police over a reporting career that spanned 29 years before his retirement from ABC-Channel 7 in 1995.
Thank-you Russ.
Did the mayor respond? Silence. No combat plan.
"William Hanhardt, a once-heralded cop who became the highest ranking Chicago police official convicted of wrongdoing for running a sophisticated crew of jewelry thieves who stole millions, died early Friday. He was 88.
12/30/2016 04:11:00 PM"
Little more than a wrongdoing he was an Officer of the law that enabled criminals in committing crimes. That's a criminal, rot shiitbird.
12/30@7:47hrs. Thanks for the info on Robinson. Current officers should just call her "ma'am" and avoid any title. You're still polite but not giving the egomaniac any official title/rank. Used to do that with D/S Barb McDonald and you could see that her ego was bruised but she had no recourse. There's more than one way to skin a hack.
Retired .38 spl +P
Someone needs to make a FOIA request to see what he gets paid and what specifically are his job duties. Sounds like a waste of money to me even if he is a good guy. And fed ex and ups should stop delivering in the hood.
I don't believe that Andrew Holmes is drawing a salary from the City of Chicago for any of his assistance. I truly believe he is simply committed to improving the quality of life for all Chicagoans.
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