More Crooked Promotions?
Rumor trickling in that the Lie-tenant Test scandal has reached a critical stage with allegations being served along with Administrative Rights to certain individuals. The Lieutenant PBPA has refused to provide legal representation and the Inspector General has all sorts of e-mail evidence in his hands. Perhaps a deal is on the table for the first taker to avoid prison?
Now this story breaks:
Now this story breaks:
- A top Chicago police official under Supt. Eddie Johnson helped snare a promotion for an officer with dozens of misconduct complaints and close ties to two cops who had recently been jailed on federal corruption charges.
Fred L. Waller - now the patrol bureau chief, the department’s third-ranking member — was commander of the Wentworth police district in 2012 when he nominated Alvin Jones for sergeant.
Jones, an officer in the district, had drawn at least 40 complaints since starting with the department in 1996, according to police records obtained by WBEZ through the Illinois Freedom of Information Act.
The promotion also took place 10 months after the arrests of Jones’ longtime boss, Sgt. Ronald Watts, and fellow tactical team member, Kallat Mohammed.
Golly, it's like the entire command staff is a bunch of "merit" promoted clouted blunderers who merely nominate an entire new generation of clouted morons with shady pasts and shadier connections. And how do they respond when confronted?
- Waller told WBEZ it would be wrong to assess his nomination of Jones for promotion by looking at Jones’ complaint record or the arrests of Watts and Mohammed.
“Did you look at the other side of the coin?” Waller asked. “You’re taking a one-sided view of that person.”
Asked to elaborate, Waller referred WBEZ to police department spokesmen.
So the guy who nominated the person in question knows him so well, he refers inquired to the Department spokes-weasel, who probably doesn't know the nominee at all.
And the wheel keeps on turning.
And the wheel keeps on turning.
Labels: promotions, scandals
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
161 Comments:
Downtown Ernie Brown died of a possible heart attack on Saturday.
My theory: this was the real reason Rahm picked EJ; Rahm wasn't convinced he could manipulate the three candidates offer to him.
At the same time, he was advised of the pending scandal by the Inspector General-- the noose he needed to hang Johnson should he want to run the Dept independently.
Rahm, called a meeting, stroked his ego... Offered him the spot and held the press conference; the next day, he told him to be a puppet, or else he'd push the scandal.
EJ must of felt like a punk when he realized he got played; look at his expression... ...hopeless sex-slave look.... owned
The Lieutenant's PBPA refused to provide legal representation? Oh, this is gonna be good! I got some grape pop and some flaming hot cheetos to eat while I watch this shit show! I cannot wait to see who is the first to crumble!
So is this why Downtown EB suffered the big one today?
If this is true, just grab your popcorn, a cool, refreshing beverage and a comfy chair and watch it all unfold.
In the time between Watts arrest and Jones' promotion, Jones was about to get transferred to the Narcotics Unit, when he was told he was way too hot to come to Narcotics and they shitcanned it... Then he gets the Merit Sgt spot. Fishy? Oh yeah... I always thought it was a reward for flipping on Watts and Mohammed or maybe keeping his mouth shut about the rest of the bunch. I've been in 002 for my whole career and I've seen some odd shit, but that situation made me say Huh?
If you know of any undeserving problem merit clowns now is the time to get their stories out there, maybe something could be done to fix this crooked process or at the very least minimize the damage that these goofs can inflict on the department and other po's by making the number of merit promotees a quarter of what they are now. 7-8% for Sgt and Lt and 5% for dics, that would be a good start.
Watts is godfather to his kids so I'm thinking pretty close.
God almighty please tell me this is true!
Chicago is a Democrat City. Of course it is corrupt.
And as always nothing will happen to these corrupt assholes
Who else did Waller promote, keep looking. That's how this department works, good old boys club. How many bosses promote their drinking buddy? Need a class action lawsuit to clean up this department.
And . .....nothing will change .
If anyone is actually held accountable for this cheating scandal in this crooked city, I'll eat my shoe.
FW is a prince. Was a worker, and to this day is still as humble and approachable as they come. Never too big-headed to stop and chat with the blue-shirts, he remembers where he came from.
The way "Sgt" AJ earned his stripes is not for airing in a public forum. However, he was getting made regardless. Not FW's fault.
More about Jones and Waller.....
https://theintercept.com/2016/12/30/code-of-silence-revisited-an-update-on-the-watts-investigation/
Makes it look like Spalding and Echeverria were right all along.... and to top it off, Sgt Watts was suspected in many crimes but he only gets caught "stealing" a few grand, gets two years in jail, and off to Vegas..... Waller, who worked with Watts, gets promoted to the No. 3 spot in the department..... Wow...... who is really running this show?
Jones, who was not indicted with his teammates, maybe had some dirt on Waller who also had worked with the convicted officers, and in order to keep quiet, Waller was compelled to nominate Jones???
Same ol same ol...... lots of back scratching at the top.... at the expense of everyone else....
Who was Waller's sponsor?
That's one aspect of this cesspool of a department that I wish DOJ would thoroughly analyze.
POPCORN is popping...
Blow the fucking lid off this popsicle stand.
Ernest Brown died. R.I.P
To the idiots still working to provide numbers for these humps, wake the fuck up!!!
Hell the white guys done this for years give the brother a brake !
Poor Fred. Nice guy, but promoted way over his capabilities.
Word is Wysinger's wife was recommended for separation by the I/G.
Oh Vic they are coming
FW is a good boss, and was the real police back in the days when one could be.
Anyone with half a brain knows that most shitty bosses and most incompetent bosses were clout hacks. It's all legit hahahaha
The CPD merit system is a cancer that I has eaten away of leadership, ethics and intelligence of a once proud police department.
Hopefully they will address the cheating that went on with the 2013 Sgt test as well with NOBLE..
I love how you guys refer to a boss as a prince, or the the real police or a worker or whatever other word or phrase to describe them. the fact is, they are only where they're are at because of clout and corruption and they couldn't give two shits about you or anyone else. but they do care about their gold braided pension and their next "career" for a second pension. wake up
Anonymous Anonymous said...
More about Jones and Waller.....
https://theintercept.com/2016/12/30/code-of-silence-revisited-an-update-on-the-watts-investigation/
Makes it look like Spalding and Echeverria were right all along.... and to top it off, Sgt Watts was suspected in many crimes but he only gets caught "stealing" a few grand, gets two years in jail, and off to Vegas..... Waller, who worked with Watts, gets promoted to the No. 3 spot in the department..... Wow...... who is really running this show?
1/08/2017 02:20:00 AM
https://theintercept.com/2016/10/06/in-the-chicago-police-department-if-the-bosses-say-it-didnt-happen-it-didnt-happen/
The real question is which bosses were getting a cut of the $50,000 a week street tax??
Waller told WBEZ it would be wrong to assess his nomination of Jones for promotion by looking at Jones’ complaint record or the arrests of Watts and Mohammed.
How N.O.B.L.E. of him.
Please don't act like white bosses haven't nominated some real fuck ups for promotions in the past.
Waller(Chief of patrol) way over his head
Navaro(1st deputy) way over his head
Staples(Chief of Dicks) go figure,no clue
The way "Sgt" AJ earned his stripes is not for airing in a public forum. However, he was getting made regardless. Not FW's fault.
1/08/2017 01:36:00 AM
Yes it's best to keep everything a secret. The only people that like to keep things out of the public forum are politicians and crooks.
I had alot of respect for Waller until he merit nominated the fucking lockup keeper in 002. Still a better boss than 95 percent of them. But his pick of lockup keeper and the fact that he was a lieutenant for a period before he made commander just smacks of everything wrong in this department. GIVEN NOT EARNED. Thats the true cpd motto. We all know it and thats why no one gives a shit anymore. When you take away hard working peoples upward mobility, is when they stop caring. It will never change unitl meirt percentage is reduced!
Can't wait to see these fucking scumbags start losing their jobs. They should go to prison too,but this is cook county, so I won't hold my breath for that. I'm just hoping this is true and they will actually be held accountable for their cheating and covering up the cheating. Bye Eddie! Don't let the door hit you in your well-fed ass on your way out... they'd have to buy a new door, you disgraceful, inept, pandering, criminal, lying, shitbag. Take all your NOBLE buddies with you. It would be nice if the cheaters have to pay back whatever money they stole by stealing a promotion.
All the noble promotions. The best one is the female promoted to detective on merit. The officer sang in chief richardson's church choir.
It kills me how people always say that these merit hacks are good guys,were stand up bosses, great cops etc. If they were such great cops and smart bosses, then they should score at least in the top 50 on a Legit test, that is designed to measure how much they know about the job they are going to be promoted for. Well if you go back and look, the top 10 scorers on almost all the tests are still at that same rank, while these merit hacks keep getting bumped up. Comes back to the old saying, "it's not what you know, but who you know". Merit is being used to race norm,for nepotism, and yes for little dollies that make middle aged men feel good. That being said, do you wonder why moral is so low and the leadership of this department is severely lacking? Until the toilet gets flushed, the turds are still there and stinking up the place....
Hey these merit bosses are good guys, so go out there and jeopardize your families future and do what they say, they have your back. Just ask Sgt. SF, they are taking care of him right?
I really hope some heads roll over this one
It's fucking sickening. I paid 1200 and more to be in a study group and to find out these fuckers had the test is very unsettling
Waller is a prince. A great cop back in the day. A fantastic sgt and a great boss.
The IAD Lie-tenants cheaters is only the tip of the iceberg in exam cheaters on this dept. Promotions on the CPD are a total f***ing joke.
How does this happen all the time just before the G gets him!
Go after one group go after all the suspect promotions!! Like Matt Cline & his team from 011 that were all promoted!
Who else did Waller promote, keep looking. That's how this department works, good old boys club. How many bosses promote their drinking buddy?
Don't only look at FW, look at all the top spots. Look at who the 1st promoted in the recent past, look at who he surrounds himself with. One doesn't even have to look that deep. I'm hearing you can start with his driver, his reputation, and some of the serious allegations he's had in the past. By the way, I thought we couldn't own (directly or indirectly) certain establishments if we're da Police? Nothing ever changes... One has to wonder if these bosses are that naive that they don't investigate who they promote or place in certain trustworthy spots, if they're well aware of everything and simply that arrogant that they just don't give a shit. A basic Google search most of the time will tell you a lot about someone. Not everything on the internet is true but you can certainly get an idea of someone's character by asking around at least.
Walter Green made Fred Waller Lieutenant in 2010 but the
fishy smell dates back even further....
Long history, stay tuned !!
This type of behavior has always been apart of the white, good ole boy network since the inception of the Chicago Police Department, but no one has raised not one iota of hell when whites are benefitting in this corrupt department......
Still can't figure out why the rest of the dirty team is still working tact in 002!.
The biggest thief on that team, D.N., was dumped around the time that the Watts probe was in full effect. He went and cried to the commander and found his way back on tact and back with his old crooked team. Biggest cry baby ever to wear the uniform. Must of stuck all that cash in the backyard cause he always refuses to work VRE and has never signed up for VRI. He he ever gets charged, I know plenty of coppers who will be in the front row in court. Hope his little sawed off partner goes with him.
screw the Waller stuff ... what about the Lt.'s????
(012) Just overheard Commander Kulbida put in 2 for Meritorious Sgt. E.C from 3rd Watch and P from Caps. Is this a joke? Based on what qualifications? This is by far the most disgraceful, disrespectful act this commander could've done! It's a slap to the face to other MORE QUALIFIED and MORE RESPECTED, They have no time on the JOB AS A STREET COP. Having a footpost doesn't count. Being in Caps doesn't count!!!! Come on Commander and XO.... what's wrong with you guys?
The pension just got a little relief.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
FW is a prince. Was a worker, and to this day is still as humble and approachable as they come. Never too big-headed to stop and chat with the blue-shirts, he remembers where he came from.
Just remember.........he was a Lt. for a whole 46 days before he was promoted to commander.
Earned......not given!
When the arrests of Watts and Mo were made, Jones just happened to be on furlough and the other guys on the team that didn't get caught up were saying that the Feds told them that a wire had been worn. Wear a wire, get promoted. Why are the rest of the team, RG,DN and the runt still working tact on the same team together?. Amazing.
Waller was a merit Lt for one month before they made him a Commander. He's a nice guy but way over his head in the shallow end of the pool
I agree with the post that there are way too many merit spots promotees. 30%for Sergeant! Unfortunately most of those go to the politically connected or family related. 10% at the maximum should be enough and those spots should be for exemplary service. What you know not who you know. I would also suggest promoting the top 100 scorers strictly from any test lists before merit promotions are even allowed. Only one merit promotion per career! Otherwise how can we say we have the best and brightest leadership? The Supt kept saying at all the police town house meetings that the merit promotees and their sponsors will be listed on the promotion order. I didn't see that on the detectives order and am waiting to see if it happens on the Sergeant promotions. Media, ACLU , anybody. FOIA the promotions for the past decade. How many bosses are there with double and even triple merit promotions? Undeserved merit promotions are further destroying the Department from within.
FOIA the Lt test results and FOIA the merit list and promotions. You'll see a few people who actually scored well , could have made it off the score list but we're "merit" promoted the first few Lt classes. All connected. Got to get them in line for a capt or Comdr. spot, right? It's all legit.
it was no secret that watts and his crew were dirty back in housing.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Jones, who was not indicted with his teammates, maybe had some dirt on Waller who also had worked with the convicted officers, and in order to keep quiet, Waller was compelled to nominate Jones???
Same ol same ol...... lots of back scratching at the top.... at the expense of everyone else....
Who was Waller's sponsor?
1/08/2017 02:33:00 AM
Walter Green.
Not that smart to pass the test without the answers and not that smart to cover their tracks. This is our so-called leadership in this department. Look and see who the merit board interviewers are and who was interviewed. Look and see who got merit promoted the first few classes and where they are working now. Look and see who scored so well from the 5th floor and their connections. Connect the dots.
I'll believe something will happen when I see it. My guess nothing will happen business as usual.
Hate to see Waller get dragged into this, he is a stand-up boss.
If you read all of the information out there regarding Watts and his team, it is apparent that Jones was involved in the false arrest and planting of dope on individuals who wouldn't pay for protection. The rest of the team falsely testified in court when these individuals were falsely arrested and one can only hope that these thieves will all be brought to justice. And, they're still working plain clothes.
Ron Jenkins, Fred Waller and Watts are all tight and Jenkins was detailed to County jail as a liaison to keep and make sure no "bad"info was being spilled on Watts
Many complaints about Watts and his team over the years and only him and his right hand man get caught?. How did the rest of em skate?.I know for a fact that the rest of the team submitted merit packages for Sgt. More promotions to come?. Crazy.
Waller is a good cop and and a good boss. Not a racist and we are lucky to have someone as chief that has gotten complaints and understands some are bs. The cheating scandal. Totally different story and that will be interesting
How could it be that 4 convictions have already been thrown out and the officers that testified are still working together on the same team?. At least now they're wearing cameras.
and Rahm wants to LOWER the standards to be hired to the Police Department I guess the criminals stick together
I dealt with Waller as a Sgt when he was a Deputy. He's a down to earth guy and easy to deal with and took care of a messed up situation the way it supposed to be dealt with . I'll take him as a boss anytime.
Who are the players besides the former 1st 's wife and the current supe's fiance? What are they doing with Willuams who spearheaded the noble scam and was allowed to retire with a hefty pension?
Enquirer editor axin
Blah blah blah...IF there was in fact a cheating scandal, there won't be a trail that can be tied to any one person or persons.
Nothing changes in the Crooked City, the players change, the game remains the same.
Wow, who would have thunk all this, internal affairs, states attorney stuff going on with the feds crawling all over the place? Never fear it's never to late to give the appearance that it's all legit before the feds quit.
Its all criminal but we kinda laugh because this is the Chicago way.
Just picture criminal PPO being selected because they are related to an exempt or Alderman.
Special Ed's in the thick of this because he was trying to hook up all the African Americans to boss spot before he is launched. Again When you look back and see Clines,Devine and a host of other family members made by merit and then placed in great units.
The DOJ flopped on this and did not even act like it was a problem. The reason being many supervisor are minorities and that is all the FEDs care about.
And the LIE-TeNants union not backing them up.... The union is a sham and does little they don't even negotiate with the City at contract time they just ask for the same thing FOP receives. (check and see what unit the LIE-tenants union board work and you will see why they dont cause to many waves!)
Who cares, I still push a 130,000 mile beat car in a shitty west side neighborhood full of non-working police haters until midnight. For the past 15 years. With no end in sight.
Unrelenting sub-moronic stupidity from the community and my so-called "superiors".
I hope all the cheating lieutenants take a hit, and not just a suspension, terminate all of them, fuck you, earn it bitch
BARZ and the Real Estate Agent playing Lieutenant in 019 are very good places to go to bring down this house of cards.
Waller is not a bad guy. But I guess he should have stayed away from this guy. And who was Waller's chinaman?? "Downtown" Ernie Brown.
Aldermanic quality to say the least.
We need a list of Where Are They Now Merit Hacks that benefitted from Daley/Rahm's Revun Alliance & Community Organizers DOJ sanctioned diversity and low standards level the field initiative.
Remember when it was 20%, soon 30% will sound like a damn good thing compared to 50% that's to come.
There will be an interesting and disappointing upcoming promotional list(s)...if they even intend to utilize any of the ones that already exist due to the content at the top 300 candidates or so.
Here's my picks in the Merit to Brilliant lottery.
1, 2, 6, 17, and 24.
Wait until the next batch of Merit hacks are promoted. Chests out, bombing promotional exams like it's their job, then telling people what to do, makes sense!
Wonder if they archive the emails of recently retired bosses?
For what it's worth, 28 Years a Special Ed's New Year statement:
“I’m optimistic... If we get the tools that we need, and the help that we need, I guarantee you 2017 will be much better than 2016," Johnson said.
– yes, Tools indeed.
Reminds me of the theiving PO from Sos that was made merit. JM convicted and off the job. Amazing how these guys all get pushed ahead of more deserving officers.
Smiling Fred Waller never had a promotion "without" merit. Supposedly linked to Hillard. Fred's step brother who looks just like him also got the bump to Sgt.
Worked with Waller in housing. His tact team was as dirty as they come. The dope dealers were coming in to the station on a daily basis complaining about Wallers guys stealing their $$$.
Does anyone with a fraction of a brain truly expect anything to come of any of this? This is The Chicago Police Dept. we're talking about. Most corrupt City government in the country. Who's going to bother looking for the truth? Who has the power to circumvent the machine? Sorry but you have to pick your battles and this place is a lost cause. If you're not plugged in get the fuck out as soon as possible!
extra butter on my popcorn please
What a "Craptacular Shitshow" Chicago is...
I love reading comments like, This city has gone to hell, and the last 15 years have taken this city to it's knees...
The hard fact is...Chicago has always been and always will be a crooked city. In the 1800s Chicago had a parade of corrupt mayors, and city council members. Read a book about Chicago history and it is the same Shit, Different day...Only the names have changed!
Make your fortune here and get out and live life...That's the best advice I can give you.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Who else did Waller promote, keep looking. That's how this department works, good old boys club. How many bosses promote their drinking buddy?
Don't only look at FW, look at all the top spots. Look at who the 1st promoted in the recent past, look at who he surrounds himself with. One doesn't even have to look that deep. I'm hearing you can start with his driver, his reputation, and some of the serious allegations he's had in the past. By the way, I thought we couldn't own (directly or indirectly) certain establishments if we're da Police? Nothing ever changes... One has to wonder if these bosses are that naive that they don't investigate who they promote or place in certain trustworthy spots, if they're well aware of everything and simply that arrogant that they just don't give a shit. A basic Google search most of the time will tell you a lot about someone. Not everything on the internet is true but you can certainly get an idea of someone's character by asking around at least.
1/08/2017 09:02:00 AM
FW has hid his indiscretions well. Don't let that fake smiley friendly front fool you. He has some real dirt and issues that I hear are going to come to the forefront fairly soon.
And as a aside, Mitchell and WBEZ are police hating racists with huge problems heading their way as well. I don't drink their fake liberal kool aid.
There is legal stuff coming out about FW tying him to other corrupt exempts. Stand by. Huge
Why did Waller select Lt. BOYD as his Admin guy? He's a walking Zombie. Who gave him the answers. Come on Fred, you're showing a lack of judgment. Is he NOBLE or Frat or both?
I agree with the post that there are way too many merit spots promotees. 30%for Sergeant! Unfortunately most of those go to the politically connected or family related. 10% at the maximum should be enough and those spots should be for exemplary service. What you know not who you know. I would also suggest promoting the top 100 scorers strictly from any test lists before merit promotions are even allowed. Only one merit promotion per career! Otherwise how can we say we have the best and brightest leadership? The Supt kept saying at all the police town house meetings that the merit promotees and their sponsors will be listed on the promotion order. I didn't see that on the detectives order and am waiting to see if it happens on the Sergeant promotions. Media, ACLU , anybody. FOIA the promotions for the past decade. How many bosses are there with double and even triple merit promotions? Undeserved merit promotions are further destroying the Department from within.
1/08/2017 10:37:00 AM
wont matter these fuckers will get the answers to the test.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Word is Wysinger's wife was recommended for separation by the I/G.
1/08/2017 05:55:00 AM
Lock her up and the rest!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Walter Green made Fred Waller Lieutenant in 2010 but the
fishy smell dates back even further....
Long history, stay tuned !!"
1/08/2017 09:08:00 AM
"Just remember.........he was a Lt. for a whole 46 days before he was promoted to commander.
Earned......not given!"
1/08/2017 10:12:00 AM
"The biggest thief on that team, D.N., was dumped around the time that the Watts probe was in full effect. He went and cried to the commander and found his way back on tact and back with his old crooked team. Biggest cry baby ever to wear the uniform. Must of stuck all that cash in the backyard cause he always refuses to work VRE and has never signed up for VRI. He he ever gets charged, I know plenty of coppers who will be in the front row in court. Hope his little sawed off partner goes with him."
Waller is a great guy and a prince. Same thing I heard about a lot of mafia bosses.
Screw the WBEZ crap story. I'm going by what I know about Waller. He isn't what he seems. And the truth will come out by spring.
Cheating? let's talk about it
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/the-watchdogs-white-men-get-biggest-share-of-police-promotions/
I didn't think so!
Well duh.......
Chicago=Corruption
It will never change unitl meirt percentage is reduced!
1/08/2017 08:01:00 AM
Why would that change anything? As it stands, 30% of each class of sergeants are merit. When there is a Lieutenants exam, sans cheating, 30% are also merit. Where do you think they get the lieutenant merit nominees from? A huge percentage were merit sergeants. Captains, if you were a merit lieutenant then the sky is the limit, if you were a lieutenant off the list then you have probably peaked. Most exempts were previously merit lieutenants or captains that were merit lieutenants.
Now if for some reason the city decided that it was a good idea (don't hold your breath) that merit should be only 7-10% then you are only creating a smaller pool for the exempts and nothing more, they will still run it on behalf of their political masters. The city will not give up it political control of the police department.
See a lot of comments about merit hacks and getting rid of these cancers, how about some suggestions for replacements.
Wait 'till you see who they are going to make captain. Most will have been sergeants only two years ago. No one with five or more years in lieutenant grade. Certainly no one in the kma. Club
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Please don't act like white bosses haven't nominated some real fuck ups for promotions in the past.
1/08/2017 07:55:00 AM
When the city started with this merit crap they said it was to "increase diversity." I always suspected it was to promote those who were too stupid to remember the test answers given to them or too lazy to even try to study. Most of the merit picks are white. That said, a good test taker does not always equal a good leader/supervisor. There are better ways to promote that are used in other cities.
Why is it that 'Merit" promotions always see promoted the people who lack the merit for a promotion? Oh yeah, that's right, democrats always destroy the meanings of words, usually applying the opposite of what the meaning is as a result of their inherent dishonesty.
As a Illinoian, the other Illinois outside Chicago, I offer my deep sorrow to all you GOOD cops out there. I pray for you and wish good tidings and great rewards for your efforts to find a way through to the other side of this evil and wicked cloud hanging around the Windy City.
I read a post upward that talked about knowledge of other merit promos and I agree. It is time to turn out the bad apples, all of them. Right now, some are being cherry picked, either to be patsy yes men or as sacrificial lambs all of which benefit the fools running the show. I suggest throwing great big monkey wrenches into the Chicago Machine.
The national spotlight IS on you guys and your City right now, so look to WikiLeaks to help you do what wikileaks does - toss the bleakest of truths out there for all to see with EVIDENCE that is sound absent a source to demonize (Think Snowden)
Now IS THE TIME, guys and gals, to make a serious move to turn a corner that sometimes seems like will never arrive.
Please Cops, please. No more using dirt to get elected, instead use the dirt to toss the elected out. No more using dirt to get that promo, instead out that dirt to toss that promo in jail where they belong. Remember, they are NOT one of your own if they are dirty cops. If they are dirty, then they are just a cancer disguised as one of you!
Nothing will change. People have the merit lists, most of the command staff today are double and triple merit. I get it with the merit thing
But the Dept. can not come up with a meaning of Merit so the system is fucked. And the city wants to loosen the standards to get on this job, what do you think some of those merit picks will look like. They keep using the good ol boy network, this is part of the reason this job is such a mess.
Weird but the people who have worked with Jones, know that he snitched and got promoted, Watts and Jones were inseparable so your telling me Mo gets caught with Watts and Jones is no were to be seen afterward and then gets promoted, its the CPD way, remember Cynthia White for the old timers......
These bosses make these poor fools go through this bullshit interview process to make it look good, but the Command staff already
Knows who got the nod, and the have the IG in the interview process and they do not do a thing. We complain about 30 and 20%, folks it is more then that, people have the test answers. The Lts, Sgts, and Dicks test are a joke, certain people have always received the answers.
O.T.
Reality check:
https://www.thetrace.org/2016/10/chicago-gun-violence-per-capita-rate/
@0913, as true as it is nobody wants to hear it. If it was fair and legit in the beginning other "groups" would not have been able to claim a piece of the pie. Either way just like corrupt whites don't benefit all whites let's not act like corrupt blacks benefit all blacks. Chris Rick made an interesting point once that can be paraphrased like this...fairness in this scandal would ve demonstrated if the same punishment the black hacks gets is what the white hacks got. I'm black. If I wave this one off then jump on and doen when some other political force gets theis the wrong way...that's not cool.
Kulibita (bubble head old prick) promoted his bro in law who is terribly misinformed about directives and only relies on old school only tactics. What a mess.
If you know of any undeserving problem merit clowns now is the time to get their stories out there, maybe something could be done to fix this crooked process or at the very least minimize the damage that these goofs can inflict on the department and other po's by making the number of merit promotees a quarter of what they are now. 7-8% for Sgt and Lt and 5% for dics, that would be a good start.
1/08/2017 01:01:00 AM
Minimize the damage? How did you think we became the most fucked Department in the Country? Merit has ruin this department beyond repair. There are MAYBE 5 exempts that don't have a merit promotion and probably everyone of those were in the "secret" study group years back. And the majority of the merit promoted have multiple. I think one thing that the originators of this process didn't foresee was once merit promotees were given merit pick themselves they would only nominate merit Sgt's for merit Lt. Hence all the double merit.
The justice department at their meet and greet suggested ending merit. We were asked what was the criteria for a merit promotion and everyone laughed.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The IAD Lie-tenants cheaters is only the tip of the iceberg in exam cheaters on this dept. Promotions on the CPD are a total f***ing joke.
1/08/2017 08:42:00 AM
Agreed. Look at this last sergeants test, A ton of bullshit went on with that Look at the last evidence technician test and the 6° of separation between people in that front office and people who made ET. Same goes especially for the canine test. Magically people who worked for supervisors conducting the oral interview were in the first class as were people whose family are close to Gary McCarthy. ALL bullshit. Everyone, and I mean everyone who passes a promotional exam should have to take a polygraph test as conditions of promotion. Any indication that there was cheating or favoritism should negate you on the spot. Those who push the issue with lieing about deception on the results of the poly will face termination and or criminal charges. Those that provide the cheaters with the materials will be fired and face charges as well. Anyone that thinks this job is legit has a hole in their fucking head.
I'm more concerned with the progress of the Lieutenant cheaters than Waller.
When the arrests of Watts and Mo were made, Jones just happened to be on furlough and the other guys on the team that didn't get caught up were saying that the Feds told them that a wire had been worn. Wear a wire, get promoted. Why are the rest of the team, RG,DN and the runt still working tact on the same team together?. Amazing.
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Maybe because they are still being watched.
Assigned seating for roll call in 11 now? Wtf!!
I came on the job with Fred. Same homeroom(86-3-C). Stand up guy then, and when I ran into him during our careers.Jenkins was his partner for a long time and I always thought good of him.
Things change?
(012) Just overheard Commander Kulbida put in 2 for Meritorious Sgt. E.C from 3rd Watch and P from Caps. Is this a joke? Based on what qualifications? This is by far the most disgraceful, disrespectful act this commander could've done! It's a slap to the face to other MORE QUALIFIED and MORE RESPECTED, They have no time on the JOB AS A STREET COP. Having a footpost doesn't count. Being in Caps doesn't count!!!! Come on Commander and XO.... what's wrong with you guys?
1/08/2017 09:57:00 AM
Come on. If you can't figure bubblehead out you are NOT :
-paying enough
-a female
-a minion who laughs at his jokes
-minion from 007
-paying enough
-former Rusty Nailer
-paying enough
Wait 'till you see who they are going to make captain. Most will have been sergeants only two years ago. No one with five or more years in lieutenant grade. Certainly no one in the kma. Club
Like O'shea? Darlin?
1/08/2017 04:56:00 PM
fw is a solid guy and would be better them what we have now.
Jones was never accused of any wrongdoing when nominated by Waller. It's IAD's job to vet the merit list. I worked for Waller in 002 - he was the best boss I have ever worked for.
Stop all the BS tests and save the city all the money. Promotions should all be meritorious.
Don't only look at FW, look at all the top spots. Look at who the 1st promoted in the recent past, look at who he surrounds himself with. One doesn't even have to look that deep. I'm hearing you can start with his driver, his reputation, and some of the serious allegations he's had in the past. By the way, I thought we couldn't own (directly or indirectly) certain establishments if we're da Police? Nothing ever changes... One has to wonder if these bosses are that naive that they don't investigate who they promote or place in certain trustworthy spots, if they're well aware of everything and simply that arrogant that they just don't give a shit. A basic Google search most of the time will tell you a lot about someone. Not everything on the internet is true but you can certainly get an idea of someone's character by asking around at least.
I would put his drivers reputation above yours any day. (Commander) Karmas a Bitch.
It would be nice to see the rat Sgts from IAD get theirs but thats not gonna happen, never does. So nice to be retired.
Know what you are talking about before you open your mouth. Kulbida does not have a bro in law on the job. You dumb ass.
More crooked bullshit! Cupich has mass to celebrate "immigrants" err blasé are they illegal criminal immigrants of citizens?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-blase-cupich-migration-mass-20170108-story.html
I'm so done with this church from free schools while parents with kids in catholic schools pay through the nose the illegals get freebies! Come on Trump drain the swamp we are tired of the corruption and lies here! Start at city hall!
Boyd was part of NOBLE study group and IAD. His good buddy "Mean Gene" Williams made him a merit sergeant after 22+ years. 2 1/2 years later he suddenly becomes a Mensa candidate and scores 30 on the test. 1 guess as to how he did so well.
Robert Sorich went to jail for several years for manipulating hiring....All these people should also
Dion Boyd was a merit detective and merit sargeant because he could not pass any promotional test. Now he is part of the Noble group and he miraculously became super intelligent and scored in the top 5% of the Lieutenant's Test. Wow I guess he took his Noble smart pills. How do we get some too.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
(012) Just overheard Commander Kulbida put in 2 for Meritorious Sgt. E.C from 3rd Watch and P from Caps. Is this a joke? Based on what qualifications? This is by far the most disgraceful, disrespectful act this commander could've done! It's a slap to the face to other MORE QUALIFIED and MORE RESPECTED, They have no time on the JOB AS A STREET COP. Having a footpost doesn't count. Being in Caps doesn't count!!!! Come on Commander and XO.... what's wrong with you guys?
1/08/2017 09:57:00 AM
EC is a nice guy, but a major suck up who doesn't realize everyone is on to his game. Bubblehead picked him b/c EC has cultivated the PR aldermen in 012 and got them to call EK. He also volunteers for any goofy community thing EK is pushing. PE also is a nice enough guy, but his promo is b/c he impressed Tiny Dancer at a community mtg when he talked about the BB tourney he formed with kids playing coached and reffed by cops. Tiny Dancer loved it as it was right after McDonald blew up and he went to it and was on the news surrounded by happy young M/1s.
This type of behavior has always been apart of the white, good ole boy network since the inception of the Chicago Police Department, but no one has raised not one iota of hell when whites are benefitting in this corrupt department......
Since you want to address the "white good ole boy network " , lets. So you mean when the department was well run. When a boss had your back. When an order came out of 35th st without errors and didn't have to be recinded 3 times. When the now retired guys had someone to look up to and would follow them into battle. Let's talk about those days and compare.
Im Gonna go out on a limb here, and bet that family members of those investigating this mess will be in the next class of promotions.
I hope Wheezie's got a nervous stomach.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Nothing will change. People have the merit lists, most of the command staff today are double and triple merit. I get it with the merit thing
But the Dept. can not come up with a meaning of Merit so the system is fucked. And the city wants to loosen the standards to get on this job, what do you think some of those merit picks will look like. They keep using the good ol boy network, this is part of the reason this job is such a mess.
1/08/2017 05:17:00 PM
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the city could set a minimum score and then use the 'lottery' to pick promotions - like they do for hiring
Merit was put in by Daley and a few corrupt black alderman to increase diversity and to promote those really good cops who just can't put pencil to paper, or so was said by Former convict Alderman Beavers. The federal judge allowed it. The first group of merit lieutenants and sergeants had people who never even bothered to take the test and a few who were on a leave of absence for years. Stories came out about the corrupt merit system in Detroit in an effort to stop this political charade, but to no avail. I know of at least three lawyers who were made merit lieutenants as an example of cops who can't put pencil to paper. The entire system is corrupt and has led to the breakdown in morale and performance of this department. No one has faith in the promotion system of CPD, not even those who have benefited from it. I had three promotions in my career, but I can honestly say better men then me were never promoted, black and white. You need a combination of luck and plenty of hard work to get a promotion while these political dunderheads just walk right in. These phony subject matter experts in the department are part of the problem. It is long past the time to revamp this system and put the trust back into the department. Will you still get incompetent leaders through an honest promotion system? Yes, you will but it will be fair for all.But, I have no faith. Chicago and Cook County is just too entrenched with corruption and patronage, racial politics and incompetence. Someday it will collapse of its own weight.
Cheaters = criminals you have cost people money for the rest of their lives. Then to work vri each month especially when your sugar daddy is the top paid Chicago cop is beyond stupid. I'm starting to think mental disorders cause no one in their right mind would would do that. Goes for the rest of you cheaters who are stealing even more money then you deserve. Wtf!!!!
Fred Waller was a good guy until he wasn't, which means he isn't. So was he ever a good guy to begin with? Look at the truly honorable people on the job that remained honorable. How did they do it?
Promoting a criminal like his buddy speaks volumes about his character. Judge a man by his actions, not what you heard. The apologists would have you believe that Fred, now that he has more power, was forced to become less honorable by outside forces. I believe he wasn't that great to begin with, just another disappointment. Business as usual.
You complain about N.O.B.L.E go rewatch the 60 Minutes segment Superintendent Johnson says it is a N.O.B.L.E. job was that code think about it. Maybe someone should ask him.
I'll believe it when it happens, until then, I believe this will be buried like everything else.
The all time best is Denis Walsh groping a female which was caught on tape. He gets arrested, pays the victim off, pleads to a misdemeanor and does a thirty day suspension. Very shortly after his suspension he is merit promoted to lieutenant. I mean WTF.
EC is a nice guy, but a major suck up who doesn't realize everyone is on to his game. Bubblehead picked him b/c EC has cultivated the PR aldermen in 012 and got them to call EK. He also volunteers for any goofy community thing EK is pushing. PE also is a nice enough guy, but his promo is b/c he impressed Tiny Dancer at a community mtg when he talked about the BB tourney he formed with kids playing coached and reffed by cops. Tiny Dancer loved it as it was right after McDonald blew up and he went to it and was on the news surrounded by happy young M/1s.
1/09/2017 02:57:00 AM
The two above po's being spoken about are nice guys, but niether 1 of them have ever done police work in their entire career.
PE has been up in caps since 2001 and I think he got on the job in 99 or 2000. EK is a pompous lieing ass pos.
Know what you are talking about before you open your mouth. Kulbida does not have a bro in law on the job. You dumb ass.
Oops, sorry it was his cousin. Now GFY.
Hey Mr Ferguson, be sure to include the crime of theft in that every one of these cheaters conspired to and have stolen money from the taxpayers of Chicago.
4:53 PM
Ferguson is a City Hall shill. He'll wait a year or 2 and make a low profile announcement that it's all legit.
Merit is just an easier way for the clouted to promote theirs... It is really simple to think of a standard by to define Merit but they will never do it because of that. Before merit what they did was place the clouted in other units before they were "made." And they had secret study groups for their merit mice. Now it's both. You have Merit and secret study groups that never left. So corruption has and always will be king of this joke of a Department. Like someone else said, if you don't know anyone on this clouted sheared get the f out now.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
EC is a nice guy, but a major suck up who doesn't realize everyone is on to his game. Bubblehead picked him b/c EC has cultivated the PR aldermen in 012 and got them to call EK. He also volunteers for any goofy community thing EK is pushing. PE also is a nice enough guy, but his promo is b/c he impressed Tiny Dancer at a community mtg when he talked about the BB tourney he formed with kids playing coached and reffed by cops. Tiny Dancer loved it as it was right after McDonald blew up and he went to it and was on the news surrounded by happy young M/1s.
1/09/2017 02:57:00 AM
The two above po's being spoken about are nice guys, but niether 1 of them have ever done police work in their entire career.
PE has been up in caps since 2001 and I think he got on the job in 99 or 2000. EK is a pompous lieing ass pos.
1/09/2017 04:09:00 PM
And a guy like PV on 3rd Watch, who was nominated by a sgt and is one of the hardest workers around -- and a nice guy -- was passed over by EK. Like that moron would know merit.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Know what you are talking about before you open your mouth. Kulbida does not have a bro in law on the job. You dumb ass.
Oops, sorry it was his cousin. Now GFY.
1/09/2017 04:10:00 PM
Who made it off the test.
Will the cheaters be arrested (charge?) or made to resign with a "pension"?
What wil wheezie do? Mrs W? How about the Noble men who were involved in the scam?
K.S. From 012 really deserves " 0fficer of the yr" ask the cpt ....
K.S. From 012 really deserves " 0fficer of the yr" ask the cpt ....
He did not make it off the list he was merit.
EK in 012 had three picks, who's the third?
Whoever keeps talking about the white or black bosses aspects grow the F up. We were all mad at both ends when it happaned with the white bosses and now when the black bosses are doing it now. So grow up it's not always a race thing and it's so old hearing it. It sucks for regular cops white, black, Mexican or Asian so stop with this bullsht That no one cares when it was the white bosses doing it. People like you are the race baiting hustlers that cause a lot of the problems we see today. Not everything is about race or black and white.
Authoritarian power is maintained by conspiracy
Lily crump hale should have been indicted on that but she took her cash and moved to Texas
Fred has very poor judgement Underqualified and clueless
Anonymous Anonymous said...
K.S. From 012 really deserves " 0fficer of the yr" ask the cpt ....
1/10/2017 12:07:00 AM
Does he know about her shortened work schedule?
BEWARE BEWARE BEWARE
One Sgt. In the Lt. Class completely fucked another fellow Sgt. and took an important star number that he requested. 10 other "Good" Sgt.'s passed on the number to honor his request and she (SC) fucked him and the rest of the US by not not passing on the number and took it anyway..
Guess that's what happens when your husband is a DC
Watch out if she will do it to us she will definitely do it to you.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Know what you are talking about before you open your mouth. Kulbida does not have a bro in law on the job. You dumb ass.
Oops, sorry it was his cousin. Now GFY.
1/09/2017 04:10:00 PM
Who made it off the test.
NOT TRUE HE WAS MERIT
And a guy like PV on 3rd Watch, who was nominated by a sgt and is one of the hardest workers around -- and a nice guy -- was passed over by EK. Like that moron would know merit.
PV is a fool, if he was Sgt he would get people in trouble because he thinks he is smarter then every one. Not a quality you want
in a boss. The Sgt that put him in a merit was also a merit. Not a could combo.
One Sgt. In the Lt. Class completely fucked another fellow Sgt. and took an important star number that he requested. 10 other "Good" Sgt.'s passed on the number to honor his request and she (SC) fucked him and the rest of the US by not not passing on the number and took it anyway..
This is a straight up lie. The kiss ass ES who has only been a Sergeant 4 years wanted the star that was his birthday, not a family member or anyone he knew, but a number that was his birthday. She was number two on star selection and took the star she wanted just like everyone else since that number had no real significance to anyone in the room. Noone else requested a star or tried to get a star way out of their seniority reach. Sgt. Spradley get some time in then you can select what you want but you don't get a pass just because you kiss ass and bring candy everyday.
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