Low Charges
- Chicago police say they found a stolen handgun, several magazines, and nearly 100 rounds of ammunition when they stopped a south suburban Lansing man near Clark and Elm streets.
But, the Cook County State’s Attorney’s Office refused to pursue felony charges against the man, citing “insufficient evidence” that he knew that the firearm was stolen, according to a police source.
Police stopped 23-year-old Tarik D. Coleman outside of Table 52 restaurant around 3:40 a.m. on January 26 because the Mercedes he was riding in had expired plates, according to court records.
Cops say Coleman removed a Glock 27 .40-caliber handgun from under his seat during the stop.
Coleman was detained, and police reportedly found a 9-millimeter handgun in the vehicle’s glove compartment.
“Those guns are mine. The Glock and the nine. I bought them at Cabela’s in Indiana,” Coleman allegedly told police. “Don’t put them on anyone.”
An investigation found that the 9-millimeter had been reported stolen from Mooresville, Indiana. Coleman changed his story to say that he bought the stolen gun “on the street from some guy in Chicago Heights,” police said.
Bought it on the streets? That would appear to run afoul of 430 ILCS 65/3(a-10) which, if we're reading it correctly, is a felony, though of varying degrees depending on other factors.
And while Possession of a Stolen Firearm is a felony under 720 ILCS 5/16‑16, knowledge (intent) appears to play a role in the charging - though as the offender's story changed from "bought it in Indiana" to bought in "on the street," a halfway decent interrogation might solicit information that he knew it wasn't on the up-and-up.
Too bad Kim Foxxxxxxxxxx isn't a law-and-order type of States Attorney.
And while Possession of a Stolen Firearm is a felony under 720 ILCS 5/16‑16, knowledge (intent) appears to play a role in the charging - though as the offender's story changed from "bought it in Indiana" to bought in "on the street," a halfway decent interrogation might solicit information that he knew it wasn't on the up-and-up.
Too bad Kim Foxxxxxxxxxx isn't a law-and-order type of States Attorney.
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
65 Comments:
Not to mention that Cabela's in Hammond won't sell a handgun to an Illinois resident.
FOID Card?
The only people who will ever be charged with any gun charges will be law enforcement.
Why do Chicago police officers still have to register weapon but every other hack in the City doesn't?
No such thing as a security guard carrying illegal anymore either. These wanna be's are carrying weapons all day even if they don't have a security gig.
Extended magazines dont even call it in just inventory it and kick the goof.
Felons you will get the charge but if it aint in their hands and you don't see it with video it did not happen. Just do a contact card like the guys in 8 and 9 do.
65/3(a-10) applies to the seller/transferor, not the buyer/transferee.
It is only going to get worse with Foxx as SA. She is Preckwinkle's stooge and believes there are entirely too many black people in the county jail. She will very selectively enforce the laws as we have already seen with regard to thefts. It will be the same thing with gun crimes, aggravated batteries, drug crimes, and armed robberies. The types of charges brought will always be the lowest possible included offense. When the case is assigned to a trial courtroom, the assistants there will be instructed to allow the charge to be further reduced for a plea and sentences avoiding incarceration are being encouraged. Foxx's term as SA will be a benefit to every gang banging criminal in Cook County.
Here's a quote from Kim Foxx, after the election, in her interview with the Chicago Daily Law Bulletin. Did she lie to them?
"From my vantage point, there are a couple of things we need to do and prioritize. One, we need to have a gun unit within the state’s attorney’s office that deals with prevention, trafficking, guns — not just in the aftermath but before they’re used; we need to work with our partners both locally and federally on dealing with how guns are coming into our communities at such an enormous clip."
Source: http://www.chicagolawbulletin.com/Archives/2016/10/05/Kim-Foxx-Q-A-10-5-16.aspx
Less than 10 stolen guns = no felony charges.
If our impotent court system can't do their job - wouldn't ATF be able to charge Coleman? If convicted - a Federal facility several states away would be ideal to serve a real sentence. That could be a real deterrent to our yutes.
Retired .38 spl +P
Kim Fox is a stupid libtard dumocrat prickwinkle tool. She has no business holding that office!
Our first three gun cases this year have all been in vehicles and everyone in the vehicle gets rwoc. All three cars had at least three heads and in three of the incidents a/o observed one of the occupants moving around in a manner consistent with hiding contraband in the immediate area where the pistol was recovered. Asa said in all three cases no one confessed to knowledge or said the pistol was theirs so rwoc everyone. They stated they will issue warrants if prints are found on the gun. Funny when atf came to the district and told us isp crime lab only finds prints on CPD recovered guns 10% of the time. Because the department doesn't have proper equipment to properly recover firearms. Isp doesn't even bother looking for prints. With that knowledge some guys in the neighboring district got a confession of a guy in a car with a gun that said the gun wasn't his he just hide it for one of the other occupants in the vehicle his charges were approved. However when he got to the grand jury the Asa told them they were dropping the charges because no one is going to believe that someone would confess to knowledge of a gun in a vehicle with multiple occupants. Get ready for a bloody year Chicago.
Typical, did you expect anything to change when only democrats get elected in shitcago!
This must be fake news. How in the fuck is this possible with the destruction going on in Chicago? Two illegal weapons and 100 rounds of ammo and he gets a fucking Ibond? Are you kidding me? I wanted to give Kim Foxx some time to get it together but this is too much.
I know this is not the focus of the story but who owned the Mercedes? This stupid piece of excrement did not buy a renewal because he could not buy a renewal. The car belonged to someone else? And the moral of the story; the Cook County States Attorney contributes to the proliferation of crime in Chicago. That is not some off the cuff statement, it is a fact. They under charge or no charge, the judges further reduce the effect of crime penalty and the purpose of the law and the citizens are left to deal with crime on the street by sanctioned and emboldened criminals.
Who names their child Tank??
I'm waiting for Kim Fox to give immunity to an assailant so she can charge a CCL holder with something.
Would never ever get a conviction for stolen gun. Sorry but I agree with the charges. Too many coppers take this stuff personally: in cook county it's a not guilty then a lawsuit. Agg use is appropriate.
Coleman needs to be the first Federal case. Maybe Foxy could send a rep to Federal court to see how prosecution is done.
This clown had a thirty round mag loaded and ready to roll for the 9 too. People wonder why kids are getting killed on a daily basis here. Fuck Lil Kim.
It seems like either SCC is reading today's Kass column or Kass read your posts before he wrote his column today?
Great minds work the same...
Too bad Kim Foxxxxxxxxxx isn't a law-and-order type of States Attorney.
Are all the x's for her abundant love and kisses for the Police, why no extra o's?
Kim is nothing more than the pawn for Preckwinkle. By why stop there? We have a city and county of crooks. Politicians who pander to citizens so they can just keep their position instead of doing what isn't popular but RIGHT, and bosses who will say and do whatever it takes to get to that next step in pension.
Last time I checked it's the lost paid with lost benefits yet the highest at risk p.o. who still cares, while Eddie, Rham, Toni, Kim and phucking Phelger stand in line waiting to fuck us for caring.
Piss off!
pipitinkle runs the ASA office and is the final say of who will be charged. There is no law in Illinois.
And of course a giant firearms retailer would sell a handgun to an out of state buyer, without shipping to that buyer's home state FFL. Of course.
It's felony review, are you REALLY surprised? I had a guy not too long ago with fraudulent registration, a BS sticker and every VIN defaced/broken/dremeled off the vehicle. 3 felonies per IVC. Felony Review refused to charge any of them because he didn't admit knowledge that any of it was fake/defaced and that it can't be proven that he did any of it to that car. Da fuq? You can charge everyone in the car with dope or guns if it's found and they want to play stupid. Yet buying fake plates, a fake sticker and driving around in a car with no VIN and no means of tracing anything and that's perfectly acceptable because he didn't say "yes, I bought fake shit, stole a car, destroyed the VIN's and had hope you wouldn't find me!" Cook County is a joke.
These crying liberals always screaming about illegal guns from Indiana. Guess what happens when they actually get one... Probation, no probable cause... pathetic. The city burns and even the most basic steps can't be taken like prosecuting someone who posses two illegal guns and admits it.
All of these PC politicians screaming gun control, gun control and you get this bullshit about not charging and enforcing the gun laws. There all full of shit and it looks like their time is coming.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Here's a quote from Kim Foxx, after the election, in her interview with the Chicago Daily Law Bulletin. Did she lie to them?
"From my vantage point, there are a couple of things we need to do and prioritize. One, we need to have a gun unit within the state’s attorney’s office that deals with prevention, trafficking, guns — not just in the aftermath but before they’re used; we need to work with our partners both locally and federally on dealing with how guns are coming into our communities at such an enormous clip."
Source: http://www.chicagolawbulletin.com/Archives/2016/10/05/Kim-Foxx-Q-A-10-5-16.aspx
2/15/2017 12:47:00 AM
Is she in hiding? Is she just a puppet and Toni pulling her strings! Bet on this Toni will run for mayor 110% sure spoken about quietly and not so quietly may God help us! But then again she has ruined the county, now drop down and finish off the city!This weekend is going to be nice and many normal people will be out and about maybe opening up the grill,and a cold beer while others will be causing major carnage and mayhem. Have days off been cancelled again?
Air 1 CPD You equipped?
Russian Police helicopter chase, and shoot at the car (ENGLISH VERSION)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v7kmixJALY
Now that would be "change we can believe in"
Always protect yourselves boys and girls when dealing with guns. Document everything you do when recovering a firearm. Make all notification seeking appropriate charges and make sure to get names of everyone who denies upgraded charges. The only one that gets hurt is the working police.
Ed just stripped the officers for their own good
There's 3 bars that have destroyed Division street: Room 7, Primary, and detention. All thugged out west/south side residents love coming to these bars to destroy the neighborhood. There were three people shot in this area a couple of months ago and most recently the CC sheriff just got shot in the head there as well.
(OT) The only that matters as violence increases everywhere is that we back each other up always no matter your opinion of the way another officer conducts him/herself we are all blue! Even though I am recently retired (thank you God), no matter what I will always back blue! Was stopped in the suburbs after retirement for a red light violation, nice copper asked for license etc, told him i was retired CPD we talked took my license and said OK be right back. He was in his car writing for about 10 minutes I thought the "thin blue line was over" he came back and said I have to give you a "warning ticket" as he pointed to the camera on his vest, I said thank you (It meant nothing but (a courtesy)he said we are all blue! Really thinking about it talked to my nephew who was in Iraq in the Marines he said "Uncle a marine is never an ex-marine your a Marine for life" Got me thinking we are Blue for life, maybe that is why when I observe active coppers doing the job I feel ready to assist if anything goes south and anyone attempts to harm my Blue brother/Sister blue for life like the ring to that! god bless my brothers/sisters in law enforcement everywhere!!
Should of attached to last entry the thin blue line sounds of silence God bless police:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3QcThn5CcI
Where is Lisa Madigan?? Where are the Feds??
Did Fox even give him a FOID charge? or did he just get a hand job??
You cannot shame and you cannot humiliate democrats in to doing their jobs. It was something like that. I just very recently read it somewheres. Hmmmm...maybe it wasn't democrats but it still seems to be applicable to this situation. Where did I read that?
Stay safe Officers.
J.J.
The jail at 26th Street is at its lowest population in forever. Just coincidentally, murders and other crime are skyrocketing.. Hmmm, I wonder if having an extra 4000 hardened criminals on the street affects the crime rate.......
This kind of thing is entirely political. Private sales of property are perfectly legal, though the FOID system may not be. They aren't going to pursue charges unless it's a slam dunk for other reasons, because everyone knows NRA is foaming at the mouth to bring a case challenging the FOID card, a state-created barrier to exercising a constitutional right.
I pointed out something similar about Foxxxx on another forum and was told how racist I am.
Here's a quote from Kim Foxx, after the election, in her interview with the Chicago Daily Law Bulletin. Did she lie to them?
"From my vantage point, there are a couple of things we need to do and prioritize. One, we need to have a gun unit within the state’s attorney’s office that deals with prevention, trafficking, guns — not just in the aftermath but before they’re used; we need to work with our partners both locally and federally on dealing with how guns are coming into our communities at such an enormous clip."
So Foxx will charge the straw purchase offenders from Indiana I doubt it. Alvarez refused to when the CAGE team had offenders. Her office reasoning, offenders were Black.
Giving the fact dude said he bought it on the street should be sufficient. The ASA's on midnights are usually quite accommodating, even if there's a CI. Maybe there was an override by now. Here's a traffic stop that didn't go awry, nice stop guys.
Again these stories don't get picked up and into the mainstream news. Seems all we hear about is Chicago's sanctuary immigrants.
There is no way the PrickCanker - FoxWrinkle Office is going to allow any overload of gun cases to come into 26th & Cal.
That would give the impression that things are really bad in Chicago.
Rahm will resort to his grown-assed man baby crying about the typical senseless ghetto shootings and murders, he will have StupidIntended Special Ed at his side...all talk-no action.
Special Ed thinks the Judicial System is a joke...but what's he doing, blaming the racist police, supporting the radical b-l-m types and hi-fiving his Cabrini alumna. But now he a says it's the guns and courts. When did he pull his enormous head out of his ass? Again speaking without permission. It's also a joke to hear friar Phlfaker wigging out and ranting in his rambling community vernacular.
I like the guy last month the media quoted: "...and it ain't even summer yet".
Who was the ASA who rejected felony charges? Start naming them in any future law suits.
So you biased fucking media, keep track of this assholes name, and when he kills someone make sure you do your job and report the puppet, kim Foxx , refused to charge him with a felony, fucking typical, remember Foxx said there are to many black and brown in county jail, well she's doing her part right?? Fuck Foxx and prickwinkle
Did he have a FOID card and concealed carry permit?
What happened to the broken windows theory of policing and justice?
Our first three gun cases this year have all been in vehicles and everyone in the vehicle gets rwoc. All three cars had at least three heads and in three of the incidents a/o observed one of the occupants moving around in a manner consistent with hiding contraband in the immediate area where the pistol was recovered. Asa said in all three cases no one confessed to knowledge or said the pistol was theirs so rwoc everyone. They stated they will issue warrants if prints are found on the gun. Funny when atf came to the district and told us isp crime lab only finds prints on CPD recovered guns 10% of the time. Because the department doesn't have proper equipment to properly recover firearms. Isp doesn't even bother looking for prints. With that knowledge some guys in the neighboring district got a confession of a guy in a car with a gun that said the gun wasn't his he just hide it for one of the other occupants in the vehicle his charges were approved. However when he got to the grand jury the Asa told them they were dropping the charges because no one is going to believe that someone would confess to knowledge of a gun in a vehicle with multiple occupants. Get ready for a bloody year Chicago.
2/15/2017 02:36:00 AM
Confessions and statements are useless if not recorded. Even when written down they'll argue they were coerced. I'm not even sure why Felony Review approves with statements if they'll just drop it in court.
Just like if dude runs into someones house or porch, or if you even see someone on a porch with a gun. ASA's will ask, "Was he an invitee?" I understand the law but it's kinda silly. Or my favorite, the horribly written law of possession of cannabis while in possession of a handgun but says nothing about being in possession of a controlled substance.
Not the police, but presently I have to live in Chicago proper. Reading this about ASA not enforcing gun laws for a technicality is nuts. Someone should tell this Foxx its not a perfect world and to prosecute law beakers. With the crazies carrying guns and a lack of prosecution, it's time for me to acquire a concealed to carry permit. I have had training in the Marines and guns are nothing new to me. The more of law abiding people carrying a gun will have an effect on this situation that exists on the streets of Chicago and elsewhere.
I really don't think that you will see an uptick in felony approvals under Foxx. I don't think she wants to see more black and brown bodies in CCJ
That's some bullshit there, wait til that released Offender commits another gun crime and actually kills someone..
That life lost will be blamed on the new guidelines put into place but Kimbo Foxxx..
Ultimately Preckdinkle is calling the shots to keep the Jail empty but this isn't the way to do it. Shame on you
Can't the street deputy override the ASAor was that power also taken away? It wasn't that long ago when an ASA rejected felony charges , the Watch Commander would call in the street deputy to review the case and override Felony Review..
WTF, Rahm and Eddie should be all over this..
Does any exempt member have any cojones?
Like I keep saying, these folks are not prosecuted because only the OBVIOUS will actually stick in court, and those are pleas made so no trial ever even happens in the first place. Lawyers KNOW that Chicago and Cook and State politicians know that the code is precarious and case law has gotten Illinois in general in hot water among the gun control community enough already the last decade or so. Rather than risk more of that, and for racialist purposes too, they just walk em in the in door and out the out door.
Illinois gun law is so focused on the gun, rather than on actual crimes committed WITH THEM and so broad that starting a trial and seeing it through puts gun control nationwide at risk. Opening up standing to light em off is not something they want to do. So they let em walk. That way, the rest of us stay scared and don't carry because it is so treacherous to do so.
Drop the gun control, correct the code- and then even the guys with stolen guns can be hammered by the judiciary- as it should be in the first place. Oh and ahhhh put the grand jury back in the peoples' hands instead of this pathetic "prosecutorial discretion" and that will go along way to resolution too.
Did he have a FOID card and concealed carry permit?
2/15/2017 01:40:00 PM
The passenger (brother) had a FOID, no CCL. The driver nothing.
1500 hours kind of cold outside, but sun is shining nice weekend coming, grill some burgers maybe? Gee what's going on what a quintuple shooting a fiver? 3 dead 2 critical must in the Middle East war zones! Oh it's not, it's in Chicago/Chiraq Brighton park you say the are with huge violent crime increase:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/02/15/people-shot-at-least-1-killed-in-brighton-park/
Hmm alderman guess the very idea of calling in specialty units even military would upset residents more correct? Alderman Lopez next move what's next? Mayor the other 49 please speak what do you think the retaliation will be? #protectblue
How is Big Ed doing with his personal trainer the Hispanic guy from 001
Thank God I live in Lake County where the police can be the police and the States Attorney isn't a worthless political hack.
-- not a cop
Somehow I get the impression that a lot of "mmmmhhhhmmmm's" and "awww hawws" echo through Key-em Fffffffoxxxxxxx's office.
Here's a quote from Kim Foxx, after the election, in her interview with the Chicago Daily Law Bulletin. Did she lie to them?
"From my vantage point, there are a couple of things we need to do and prioritize. One, we need to have a gun unit within the state’s attorney’s office that deals with prevention, trafficking, guns — not just in the aftermath but before they’re used; we need to work with our partners both locally and federally on dealing with how guns are coming into our communities at such an enormous clip."
Does she mean "AT an enormous clip or "WIFF" an enormous clip?
Time to move
Ed got the job because he had strip club manager manager on his resume. Rham thought that made him the most qualified candidate since he wants as many coppers stripped as possible. Someone with photoshop skills please make the video for us!
Add this to the total:
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/police-person-fatally-shot-in-marquette-park/
Then we had the 5 shot same location pershing road 3 dead 2 serious and the weekend in exceptionally warm and sunny what's the total? Are days off cancelled? Will they be calling in apache attack helicopters fully armed for air support to assist CPD in the war zones? Do we get gps to type in coordinates for air strikes? "War what is it good for"
Back blue God special blessing for CPD may we all go home safely! Amen!
2/15/2017 12:09:00 AM
They will, they ship it to an Illinois FFL
Not surprised at all this asshole got an ibond. Pretty soon murderers will be granted ibonds too. At Cook county jail an inmate is granted a laptop with internet access to seek defense online(no bullshit) and extra food rations when they assault a staff member. It's getting fucking ridiculous.
nonymous said...
Not the police, but presently I have to live in Chicago proper. Reading this about ASA not enforcing gun laws for a technicality is nuts. Someone should tell this Foxx its not a perfect world and to prosecute law beakers. With the crazies carrying guns and a lack of prosecution, it's time for me to acquire a concealed to carry permit. I have had training in the Marines and guns are nothing new to me. The more of law abiding people carrying a gun will have an effect on this situation that exists on the streets of Chicago and elsewhere.
2/15/2017 03:53:00 PM
There are more and more people like the above who are carrying guns. It's just a matter of time when there will be more bad guys getting shot during robberies and the like.
You think Kim Foxx was on the line to deny those felony charges?! You're stupid. ASAs have been turning down charges for stuff like that for 25 years, including under any States Attorney you endorsed.
Your honor, in my clients defense...he simply purchased the stolen weapon from an unknown person on the streets somewhere in Indiana. I rest my case. What a joke.
Anonymous said...
Can't the street deputy override the ASAor was that power also taken away? It wasn't that long ago when an ASA rejected felony charges , the Watch Commander would call in the street deputy to review the case and override Felony Review..
WTF, Rahm and Eddie should be all over this..
Does any exempt member have any cojones?
2/15/2017 04:09:00 PM
The poor Chicago Copper trying to do the right
thing in seeking any kind of override will promptly
get it stuck in his/her moon sideways...
Plus the State's Attorney's Office is big on
retaliation. Every case file with your name
on it as arresting officer will be nolle pros,
NPC and shit-canned in general...
Then you wonder why all of a sudden,
you seem to have turned into a Police
Idiot at work as you now can't seem to
do shit right since you tried to do what's
right and JUST in seeking an override.
An override is not a battle worthy of
fighting because of the forces arrayed
against The Policeman.
It's not worth your grief and aggravation
trying to play righteous warrior of one
with this job and the Cook County Court
system.
A Police Intitated override being successful means
someone within the Cook County Court system
was neglectful in doing their job.
They have their "Code of Silence" too...
Who was the ASA who rejected felony charges? Start naming them in any future law suits.
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ASA Mathews
Russian Police helicopter chase, and shoot at the car (ENGLISH VERSION)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v7kmixJALY
Now that would be "change we can believe in". 2/15/2017 08:32:00 AM
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Correction Brazil PD - Policia Militar GRAER specialized air unit, the GRAER even put their logo on video
I do think it was a shoplifter from Walmart
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