Another Quota?
This time in 016:
- This was very recently sent out in an email from 016th dist 2nd watch Lt kohnen. He must not read this blog.
Gentlemen,
In preparation for the upcoming Compstat meeting, the undersigned has recently completed an individual activity review for our 2nd watch personnel.
The watch, as a whole, is out-performing last year's output wonderfully, up some 30%.
However, we still have some people who are not contributing their fair share, meaning they are not meeting the agreed upon "one good stop with documentation per day worked." This group of officers include:
[Names removed]
If any/all of these listed officers fall under your direct supervision, please assist them in correctly documenting the work that they do, regularly, so that they, too, are properly recognized as "contributing members of the watch."
Additionally, the following group has experienced a cumulative reduction in individual activity when comparing this year to last, and may need extra supervision in order to put them back on track:
[Names removed]
Thanks for your continued efforts!
First up, who "agreed upon" this quota? The FOP? The officers in 016? The ACLU? Rahm?
We're sure that the ACLU, [monitoring this blog], will be in a right state after reading this. There will also, no doubt, be a number of readers screeching about "It's 016 - find some work to do! Protect the neighborhood!" That isn't the point of this post. This is about management improperly and illegally directing Officers down a path that will result in Officers losing their homes, livelihood and careers. We don't care if it's ten stops a night in 025 or one stop a day in 016 - it's illegal, and putting it down on paper makes it easier to jackpot coppers.
The fact that this idiot calls it "output" and attaches a "30%" increase to the "agreed upon" totals only invites another ACLU lawsuit to FOIA any and all paperwork related to a quota system that 35th Street denies exists, but is constantly referred to by moronic bosses. And the paragraph about "assist them" and "recogniz[ing]" the Officers as "contributing members" just made this a slam-dunk for any Officer who wants to move forward with an EEOC beef. You're singling out Officers based on ...a QUOTA! And you listed their names in a discover-able e-mail? Way to cost the City money there Lieutenant! Is this another "merit" pick? Because this is as dumb as Escamilla's recent fuck-up.
[Comments in which the only point is "do work or quit" will be deleted as per policy. Same with rip jobs on 016 "lazy cops" and crap like that. The same rules apply to all cops all the time - the enemy is management violating the law that would cost any normal cop his/her job if they did it.]
We're sure that the ACLU, [monitoring this blog], will be in a right state after reading this. There will also, no doubt, be a number of readers screeching about "It's 016 - find some work to do! Protect the neighborhood!" That isn't the point of this post. This is about management improperly and illegally directing Officers down a path that will result in Officers losing their homes, livelihood and careers. We don't care if it's ten stops a night in 025 or one stop a day in 016 - it's illegal, and putting it down on paper makes it easier to jackpot coppers.
The fact that this idiot calls it "output" and attaches a "30%" increase to the "agreed upon" totals only invites another ACLU lawsuit to FOIA any and all paperwork related to a quota system that 35th Street denies exists, but is constantly referred to by moronic bosses. And the paragraph about "assist them" and "recogniz[ing]" the Officers as "contributing members" just made this a slam-dunk for any Officer who wants to move forward with an EEOC beef. You're singling out Officers based on ...a QUOTA! And you listed their names in a discover-able e-mail? Way to cost the City money there Lieutenant! Is this another "merit" pick? Because this is as dumb as Escamilla's recent fuck-up.
[Comments in which the only point is "do work or quit" will be deleted as per policy. Same with rip jobs on 016 "lazy cops" and crap like that. The same rules apply to all cops all the time - the enemy is management violating the law that would cost any normal cop his/her job if they did it.]
Labels: department issues, dumb ideas
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
147 Comments:
many years ago I thought I lost a 12 round magazine and stopped into 017 to get a permit to purchase since my unit didnt have them
Kohnen was the W/C that night and REFUSED to sign the authorization for me EVEN though I was in traveling uniform, with an ID card and star on my shirt.
I STILL cant make up my mind whether he didnt know about that form or he was just being a jag off.
But this numbnuts was a Lieutenant of Police
I found the magazine in a magazine pouch with a broken belt loop in my car.
But what a goof
STAY FETAL!!! Go to your calls, give the necessary report to the outstanding citizens and back each other up period! Oh and for those supervisors that STILL drink the coolaid and we get paid good money so we should come in with some type of activity go screw yourself. We get paid good money to answer calls and patrol
Bob is missing the "Leadership" gene, among others.
These kind of "threats" won't work in retirement districts like 016/017. People there aren't scared of bosses and there are far fewer young officers than in 025.
I personally want to thank you SCC for bringing things like this to the forefront. Hopefully some white shirts will think before they demand activity after reading things like this.
That LT. on days was an idiot, even before this email. I was in 016 on afternoons, and I thoroughly enjoyed it there. The bosses were good, the watch was good, and the people were good. Anyone who wants to slam 016 should go there before they open their mouths. They are woefully short, and the district is enormous. The criminal element is very abundant and it's busier than you think.
They just brought Queenie to days. She's the best cop in this department. She'll handle those numbers, boss. Get her out there!
Once and for all...
The "Corporate Model" is an ill fit for
Policing/Public Safety.
Policemen don't make "widgets" any more
than the death loving shit-heads who
have CPD management spinning in circles
and flagellating themselves and each other
for want of a solution to the death loving
shit-heads lighting this city on fire.
And CPD management is pissed because
Escamerit's stupid fuck-up of putting
a demand for quota based activity in
writing has stripped them of ANY
plausible deniability in regard to
putting the arm on Policemen for
quota based activity so as not to
get fucked with/punished/brow-beaten/
harassed/cooked in the disciplinary jackpot
for not obtaining the never before defined
amount of activity needed to keep the
bosshole of the day from bothering you.
ACLU says:
"Cat's out the motherfucking bag you fools."
>Crams hefty sheaf of words-all-over
papers with the famous blue litigation
cover up the merit boss blow hole<
This shit won't stop until these can't
buy a clue merit hump bosses are forced
to give up their houses, cars, savings,
legitimate/illegitimate kids college
funds, money to keep the side poke quiet
as part and parcel of punitive damages.
We think MOST Policemen have clearly
gotten the memo.
Quota based activity is a fucking no-no.
Dry, flavorless, unexciting, response
after the fact Policing is what they want?
Well then damn it, give it to 'em.
Lieutenant Kohnen is a first-class idiot.
How do you file EEOC complaint? Also what would the complaint do? How does it help? Really don't know that's why asking.
Not a boss posting but, Seems to me many folks are getting the "Quota" law in Illinois wrong. It specifically speaks about citations. You can be told to do stops. So pull over grandma with a license plate light out and there is your "stop". There are ways around the orders. A little work a day keeps the boss away.
A municipality may not, for purposes of evaluating a police
officer's job performance, compare the number of citations
issued by the police officer to the number of citations issued
by any other police officer who has similar job duties.
Nothing in this Section shall prohibit a municipality from evaluating a
police officer based on the police officer's points of contact.
For the purposes of this Section, "points of contact" means any
quantifiable contact made in the furtherance of the police
officer's duties, including, but not limited to, the number of
traffic stops completed, arrests, written warnings, and crime
prevention measures. Points of contact shall not include either
the issuance of citations or the number of citations issued by
a police officer.
There has got to be a virus running through the ranks of Department bosses. I call it the "Stupid Virus". Takes many forms but usually infects bosses at the district and unit level. Symptoms include shouting at the troops, writing orders that are contrary to the law and Department Policy, attending roll calls and using inflammatory language, threatening punishment for minor transgressions hitherto overlooked as not worth the time to enforce, attempting to enlist the aid of outside unit personnel to hammer cops, threatening to withhold officers' request for time off, while never displaying backbone.
And why are these nitwits still
clinging to the corpse that is
Compstat?
Why don't we talk about lieutenant Hasan in 004. Guy has been asking for ISR's, stops and vehicle impounded for the past 8 months. If he doesn't get them he threatens to take people off their cars. Commander Sanchez knows about the Lieutenant's requests but pretends he has no idea about it. Place is a joke
Buy em books and send them to school. What do they learn, Nothing.
Crime is random, and in some districts, largely due
to demographics, more random (or frequent) than in
other districts. You're going to get clumps and zeros.
You can't hope that the crime was more evenly
distributed or that the number of stops was more or
less evenly divided by the officers on duty.
It is unreasonable to take statistical distribution laws
(no pun intended), and make them conform to a quota
system. The laws of probability and statistics are not
going to change and morph themselves into an unnatural
(and illegal) quota system. Academics fall down on the side
of the FOP.
By mandating quotas, the management proves itself ignorant
of both mathmatecial and legal concepts.
Man, that has got to be one of the lamest 'Team Awesome!' emails from management I have ever read. At least Escamilla aka Quota Man, tried to make himself look like a half-assed military leader with his 'gang arteries,' nonsense or whatever his dinosaur brain told him sounded intelligent to write down. I like how the Lt sounded like a head teacher for a remedial school that wanted the rest of the staff to monitor more closely the kids that were eating glue and not doing their homework.
I guess this is good news? I mean, I guess the ACLU is irrelevant now and the city doesn't care what they think anymore? Sounds good to me. One of those coppers should stop someone and tell them that they were pulled over because they looked weird and besides, I need my stop for the day otherwise my supervisor might try to molest me in his/her office.
Escamerit may go down as some sorta folk hero for the CPD. Is this the 'Escamerit effect?' Because he doesn't seem to be suffering any consequences for his illegal quota, and it appears now that other supervisors feel emboldened and that they can come up with whatever crazy demands that they want.
RIP ACLU. It appears your organization isn't nearly as powerful as it once was.
Not Related.
This how to spot a merit promotion.
http://gunfreezone.net/index.php/2017/05/09/australian-carry-forest-wittaker-eye-warning/
SCC do you ever forward the emails and posts to the newspapers, ACLU, FOP, IG and IPRA (or whatever it is that's replacing them) of all these managers saber rattling about activity?
Someone should.
Why does the lowly blue shirt that always takes the shit slinging from the above acronyms and media outlets?
It's high time those fancy white shirts get some shit smeared on them.
Wtf! White shirts are insane! And soft as puppy shit! Are they all that scared to do something like this! U sackless fucking weasel's. Im convinced now.....never trust a whire shirt.
I urge any officer who is being told to bring in activity, to do the following:
1) Document word for word on any requests for activity (ISR, parkers, movers etc.)
2) Record the Date and Time
3) Name and Star Number of the PIMP
Forward the information to ACLU either by mail, fax or email. You do not have to give your name.
Mailing Address:
ACLU of Illinois
180 N. Michigan Ave., Suite 2300
Chicago, IL 60601
Telephone:
312-201-9740
Fax:
312-201-9760
E-mail:
acluofillinois@aclu-il.org
Additionally, the DOJ team can always be reached via email at community.cpd@usdoj.gov or by phone at 844-401-3735 (toll free).
These meritorious promoted hacks were never the police. They get high enough on the ladder then they are put in a position to "lead' the real police and they realize they are in way over their heads. So they start to do stupid things like those mentioned, bring attention to themselves from those higher on the ladder. Those higher realize that these fellow morons need to be removed and poof the idiots are all reunited at headquarters. I believe these guy's are doing this on purpose, this department rewards incompetence. They don't want to be running a district or a watch so they do these things hoping they will get reassigned and hid somewhere sharpening pencils. Still get a take home car, come in around 10:00 leave at 1:30 or 2:00 they got it made.
HAVE THEM put it in writing , and have them sign it , just like the Veteran Officer told them to do , The Officer that had BALLS to tell them , I still owe him a Case of Beer for that one .
A good friend of mine is a union rep for the postal service. He says that when management fucks with people or try to circumvent the contract, he files grievances. The results of some of these grievances have actually gotten supervisors fired or removed from their positions! The point is... will something like this work for CPD?
I would love to sue this Jagoff city and settle for millions and then retire and collect my pension to top it off!
Stupid fucking bossholes!
19-p
remember this is a sanctuary city not a good setting for doing any police work.....just wait until cook county is a county like WILL COUNTY not a sanctuary county....they just made a traffic stop sheriff deputies the following are the results of team work:
Deputies called the K-9, Roxy, which conducted a sniff search and discovered narcotics near the rear trunk are of the car, it said. The Will County Sheriff's Gang Suppression Unit allegedly discovered the cocaine wrapped bricks with a street value of $1.125 million, it said.
The three are being held in Will County jail. Bond was set Tuesday at $1.5 million each. Their next scheduled court date is May 26.
District 020 Ranger
Stay Fetal and Safe
Does that include the house mice???
Now ya gotta worry about the Sgt or Lt that just doesn't like U. According to what I read they've placed themselves illegally into a position to not just fuck with you, but use any reason to do so if Ur in the last two groups.
Sneaky sneaky to our supervision and 35th street.
Wow, what an idiot. Has to be merit. Who is his clout?
Is Looney ok with this? He seems like he knows what time it is.
The Lt. is a documented goof! He is NOT a leader and never was. Coppers in 016 do what they have to do to keep this jag off their back.
It's always a crap shoot every day wondering if he forgot to take his meds before he shows up for work.
United we stand, Divided we lose our homes,love ones and go to jail. Will the BOSSES be visiting YOU in jail hair gels ? STAY F E T A L boys and girls. LET THE BOSSES GO TO JAIL!!!!!!!
These goofs have fake college!
And what does the SUPE say about this?
If a Compstat meeting is CHAIRED by the supe and his underlings come back requesting "NUMBERS" who did the order really come from.
Now think about when that same SUPE talks about NO CHEATING or having your backs.
Don't just listen to SPECIAL ED watch his actions.
Any luck on solving that Car break in SPECIAL?
That's a lot of commas
This is another example supporting the belief and apparently in 016 the Fact, that the Chicago Police Department and its Officers no longer have credibility! With stops being documented by articulation on paper and in video; are YOU now expected to commit Perjury, a felony, so this "Ignorant" Lieutenant can produce a false narrative for COMPSTAT? And I do not use the word "Ignorant" lightly, because it appears this Lieutenant is living in some Clout induced coma. Now any, and I mean any traffic citation in 016, can be challenged with good reason. "Your Honor, my client was cited to conform with a District quota on issuance of traffic citations." If you play ball and commit the felony/perjury, for the "Team", will you get a Merit Bump? With this level of Ignorance in White Shirts; it is clear that every Man/Woman, and in 019, any combination thereof, is on their own! How can anyone trust or follow this kind of leadership? You are being criticized, by police Supervisors, for not abusing your authority as police officers? Will they give you a time due slip for your own indictment? Now more than ever, Do Nothing More than answer your calls. Give the Democrats the Police Department that they have wanted for decades. And if bosses need instruction on how to motivate the troop, call me and I'll teach them how to address these issues. "I have noticed some really bad driving in the District, yet I have not seen many citations this Period. Please be more observant of this problem. Remember, we are in our vehicles more than the average person, so that bad driving might put us as the victims of a crash. Be Careful and Stay Safe." Treat Officers with Respect, and they will do what needs to be done. Treat them like idiots, and they will do as little as possible. Remember, the pension is the same for the Tac officer, as it is for the Do Nothing officer. Baby "G"
This is coming from a Lt that comes into work, grabs keys and goes home. Don't believe me gps his car. Goof!
Coming from a maxed out guy say no more!
Just when you think bosses cannot be this stupid I'm not the one acting stupidly pops up put it on paper boss there you go your intelligence is extremely lacking! Copperas today will not ever jeopardize their futures due to your utter incompetence, Eddie when you first took the superintendence position you should've dumped his people you may know changes and you can see how well this is working out for you the working police officers and the innocent citizens in this carnage filled City. Can you imagine how much stuff is being kept on computer jump sticks and recording devices just waiting to be released the dumb stuff the incompetent overpaid bosses say! Every day in the bosses must be drinking something to make their minds more insane, not that many years ago the bosses have some sort of respect today zero respect they wear that white shirt it is just like Halloween they are nothing more than costume holders they dress like that they may as well wear a clown costume because that's what most of them are!
The watch as a whole is out performing last years output wonderfully? Who talks like that? Goof!
But it was so well written, a bottom feeder's dream to match wits with this hack on the stand...
A Dream come true if your name was attached.,First step is get a CR on the Lt, second step get a lawyer
Voulgaris is sweating every regular officer on every car individually in 017.
More merit Brain Drain. They will never get it.
a legit organization would have a useful assessment tool (which includes white shirts being assessed)...and there would be documented supervision (what did you teach, model, share, participate in, observe) and documented goals and paths for improvement (reviewed e learn-ning, went to training...).....but why would CPD invest any time/money in its only real asset (MANPOWER)---from hire to retire the employees are never important.
Garbage in, garbage out. Promote unqualified people to positions they're not qualified for and they'll resort to unqualified (unlawful) means to appear qualified.
But sometimes, even qualified people will make a major fubar. I hope that's what's happened here and a retraction will be forthcoming soon. Not everyone patrolling a desk is unqualified, I hope.
J.J.
any white shirt putting this on paper and distributing it deserves anything negative vibes that come their way.
down at the ACLU some cop hating lawyer just creamed them self
OMG I wish this was like facebook because I would post the meme where Michael Jackson is eating popcorn and the caption reads " I'm just here to read the comments... This Jackass has ruined the watch single-handedly and has destroyed the moral of every working copper. Hey SCC see if you can look up in your crystal ball where this dumb ass during a chase where the offender bailed out of a car and a foot chase ensued right in front of the LT K's house and the while coppers are running around looking for the bad guy the good LT jumped into the bad guys car and tore up the neighbors lawn and was driving towards the same coppers who were chasing the bad guy. You can't make this shit up. Extra butter on the popcorn please. Buckle up people you're gonna see some good shit LOL
This crap has been going on for many years but they always verbalized it. Now these dopes put it on paper for all to see proving what pressures POs have been under from these self serving Goofs.
I'm really surprised to see that Lt.K. would do that. I've known him for years, going back to when he was in patrol in 018 and worked with me. He ALWAYS was a good working cop and team player. Even when he was promoted, he didn't forget where he came from and backed the troops. There has to be more to this story. I just hope he didn't go to the dark side....
Does this include all the armed secretaries in the station?
Who's the goof? The guy who doesn't search the car when his worn- beyond - service - life mag pouch falls off or the guy who tries to get a permit signed for something that didn't need a permit (at the time)?
Arrogance before the fall....
ACLU will love this . Send a copy to the news media!
Looney? Spent his time as a CAPS guy, Community Policing and all of that. Heavy
From the comments:
Why don't we talk about lieutenant Hasan in 004. Guy has been asking for ISR's, stops and vehicle impounded for the past 8 months. If he doesn't get them he threatens to take people off their cars. Commander Sanchez knows about the Lieutenant's requests but pretends he has no idea about it. Place is a joke.
5/10/2017 12:57:00 AM
Sanchez is a triple merit himself. He thinks he's a true leader, and yet he can't even get his office staff to come to work on time. And Hasan is nothing compared to Bulnes (also merit). She comes late, leaves early, and her biggest worry is that her makeup is perfectly applied. She's the "Weezy" of 004.
I'm sure the brass at headquarters will have a talk with these dummies and tell them "to not go off the script and go back to only verbalizing the quotas" They're breaking with long standing secret policy.
are we talking about Comstat? I thought everyone hated it and blamed McCarthy for it and wanted his head. Well it's seems the COD bosses love it and it is going stronger than ever with districts increasing the manpower used to compile the stats.
The guys in 016 may want to contact an attorney. Hostile work environment? Being publicly named?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They just brought Queenie to days. She's the best cop in this department. She'll handle those numbers, boss. Get her out there!
5/10/2017 12:39:00 AM
Who's "Queenie?" Future merit Sgt?
This is the Departments response to our "battle cry" of staying fetal...
Once questioned about the historical significance of the Philosophy "If you want peace you must prepare for war"' Bart Simpson Replied..."It seems to me, you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't..."
Out of the mouths of babes....
I've said this about Robert "Beldar Conehead" Kohnen, he will eventually hang himself with his twisted thinking. Give him enough rope and he will hand himself. He stepped in it here by naming names. Please tell me where in the orders it specifies a certain number of stops that negate supervision while lacking stops requires more specific supervision? Where is the content validity of his management policy and how does He, Beldar, make agreements with officers regarding policing policy and procedures? Do these agreements violate the contract with FOP and PBPA? There are more questions than answers here. Does this constitute an official department document? Is this now official policy and does it contradict official department policy? What recourse do these officers have after being identified as being lacking in their performance duties based on Beldars traffic stop policy?
My activity on the west side dropped from over 200 arrests in 2015 (pre isr) to 5 in 2016, all on signed complaints. This year I'm on pace to reduce it even further.
These meritorious promoted hacks were never the police. They get high enough on the ladder then they are put in a position to "lead' the real police and they realize they are in way over their heads. So they start to do stupid things like those mentioned, bring attention to themselves from those higher on the ladder.
Look no further than Juan Rios at gangs north. This guy is the definition of pussy merit hack bosses. He's trying to dump half of the unit and bring in his three year guys to do his bidding. If you aren't box 1 on the arrest he complains, if you don't do search warrants he complains. I've never really heard any boss complain about being box 1 and/or 2 but this assface does. Even if the team has good numbers he will single out those who aren't in Box 1. And everyone has to be an affiant on a search warrant, or else get out. He wants more of his LAPA sgt's and three year wonders who will do whatever he tells them to in order to get that promotion he so eagerly desires. He is everything that is currently wrong with this dept. If it weren't for the 10 hour days I'm pretty sure the guys with time on in that basement would go back to the districts.
Does this mean they are going to send Captain infidelity to 016 now?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not a boss posting but, Seems to me many folks are getting the "Quota" law in Illinois wrong. It specifically speaks about citations. You can be told to do stops. So pull over grandma with a license plate light out and there is your "stop". There are ways around the orders. A little work a day keeps the boss away.
A municipality may not, for purposes of evaluating a police
officer's job performance, compare the number of citations
issued by the police officer to the number of citations issued
by any other police officer who has similar job duties.
Nothing in this Section shall prohibit a municipality from evaluating a
police officer based on the police officer's points of contact.
For the purposes of this Section, "points of contact" means any
quantifiable contact made in the furtherance of the police
officer's duties, including, but not limited to, the number of
traffic stops completed, arrests, written warnings, and crime
prevention measures. Points of contact shall not include either
the issuance of citations or the number of citations issued by
a police officer.
5/10/2017 12:53:00 AM
Written like a true suckhole.
So now what?
All these willfully ignorant, jumped-up bosses
are now pissed because the troops are heeding
the #blm/aclu memo and are actively avoiding
the verboten quota based Police activity that
these jumped-up bosses desperately need in
order to look good at the merry festival
of Law Enforcement Fuckery known as Compstat?
Bosses go to HQ to look good at The Policeman's
professional and personal detriment.
Bosses want that promotion.
Policemen get ruined for heeding bad
commands under duress for activity.
The aclu is cataloging this activity and
sending notice to the DOJ on which
OFFICERS are generating "activity"
that is quota based.
This shit is purposely designed
to imperil Policemen only.
Until gold star bosses start getting outed
AND hurt over this dumb shit. It won't stop.
"You fucking Coppers won't make us look good
at Compstat? We're gonna start fucking your
lives up..."
Compstat has been wholly disproven and discredited
as nothing more than the quota driven NYPD law
enforcement quackery it is.
The intellectually disinterested CPD command and
policy making echelon have been exposed for the
incompetents they are.
Their only solution to everything wrong with this
job is to cast the Blue Shirts as the cause and
viewing more silly shit from THEM as the cure.
Fun House mirrors hanging in their houses...
Has anyone contemplated the possibility here that the intent of this garbage is beyond just making coppers look bad? That it is more nefarious than that and indeed even more juvenile than that? What if this is just, and really only, to set up the big payouts themselves. I mean everything else is set up and based on the kickbacks and milking and money laundering, right? Why not even this? What if this crap is just the biggest lump sum tax exempt money laundering of taxpayers dollars that any municipality has ever witnessed? Like say a brother from another mother in the ghetto lottery field of dreams?
Maybe its not that they don't know this sets up discoverable material, but instead it is that do. At this point, I don't guess there is even any maybe about it.
O/T
All u coppers that keep chasing, or "following" I should say, behind all these cars that now take off on us because the word has spread like wildfire that we are ridiculously limited now and have had our proactive balls chopped off by the anti cop agenda, don't just end it there. Most of u probably know this,but I'm surprised that many don't take the time to order an impound for fleeing/eluding. They may have gotten away, but if u got the plate, their cars fucked, at some point. Do the impound, location of vehicle is home of record. Unk driver
MCC 9-92-035
https://chicagocode.org/9-92-035/
Just sayin...they think they can run and fuck us over. Fuck em back, with no lawsuit.
Come in with a bus check. That's activity a d there isn't crap they can do about it.
FatHeadEd can't ignore the 800 pound gorilla in the room known as quotas and indexes anymore.
He's got to address it and put a stop to it pronto.
When the department decided to not do anything to commander Escamilla of 025. For demanding a car make 10 documented stops, it simply emboldened other supervisors to demand "activity".
Anonymous Anonymous said...
SCC do you ever forward the emails and posts to the newspapers, ACLU, FOP, IG and IPRA (or whatever it is that's replacing them) of all these managers saber rattling about activity?
Someone should.
Why does the lowly blue shirt that always takes the shit slinging from the above acronyms and media outlets?
It's high time those fancy white shirts get some shit smeared on them.
5/10/2017 01:41:00 AM
Why don't you???
I love how coppers bash the "ACLU, FOP, IG and IPRA (or whatever it is that's replacing them)" but now want them to come to their rescue!
This Lieutenant is obviously an asshole but grow the fuck up!
quotas are illegal per SCOTUS and State statute.....
"Fair share " and "contributing members of 2nd watch " all modern democrat socialist terms . The collective , another great commie term these political over indoctrinated hacks use . This is the USA go live in Venezuela shit bags
"Nothing in this Section shall prohibit a municipality from evaluating a
police officer based on the police officer's points of contact.
For the purposes of this Section, "points of contact" means any
quantifiable contact made in the furtherance of the police
officer's duties, including, but not limited to, the number of
traffic stops completed, arrests, written warnings, and crime
prevention measures. Points of contact shall not include either
the issuance of citations or the number of citations issued by
a police officer."
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Dear Mr. "Not a Boss",
They can evaluate me on my points of contact for every business check I do. Walk into DD, bam! Contact with a business employee. Sorry I'm not running their name since it's not a Terry stop, so you can review the video footage for your documentation. For those with body cams, turn them on and you're documented. Walk into a park district building and sign the clipboard - bam! Contact! Again, you want your fucking documentation, go get the clipboard (or the video). I dare you to slander my name in a letter, you stroke. Watch how fast you get sued for ANY perceived discrimination (deny me time when you've given time to someone else? I fucking dare you). By the way, I don't have to win a lawsuit, just a settlement. And Chicago folds like a lawn chair to get out from under the most petty litigation. It won't cost me a dime once I show my attorney (you will be paying for her) your quota memo acquired via FOIA and my documented contacts.
No one is going to say that contact with the business community isn't in furtherance of my police duties.
Sincerely,
"Not a Cop, but...." (I know, it's a laugher isn't it?)
If you have evidence of bosses asking for numbers, post it. Time to bring it to light. It will put the bosses on their heels.
This dumb hack tried to hide the fact that he is naming for the sake of shaming as being a way for supervisors to assist these officers. Even if it's not lawsuit or beef worthy, the implicit message is that this boss is a rat-sized house mouse that is looking at individual officers to compare their prior year's activity. Also, that he is pressuring SGTs to ride POs asses.
This sounds like a management in need of 025 third watch. That's a strange but effective bunch that's amusing to watch in action from a distance.
Many of the supervisors and bosses in 016 are pretty good but good but a handful seem intent on making your life a living hell.
Whenever i would get threatened from my low paying job with worthless managers I would continue to work at a slower pace after they bring up shit like that.
Kohnen is complete nut case. I wouldn't make too much of this email. He'll forget he wrote it by next week. I knew a few Sgts who stood up to his nonsense and he backed down pretty quick. When he retires, he should hook up with Lt "Bi-polar" Stone and swap stories over a glass of liquid lithium.
This LT. is NOT meritorious. He is just an ass-wipe. Absolutely hates the job, hates his sergeants and won't help a copper for nothing. He is just a bully in the uniform. He gets away with it because of his rank. Most of his supervisors know he is a knucklehead, but can't do anything about him. Too many stories concerning this guy, they can't all be a lie.
Re: hair gels
I bet these guys also use body wash vs. a bar of soap
I heard Millennials think touching a bar of used soap is gross
(so, the bright bulbs go for the squeeze bottles, which is a
bad value, economically speaking)
Only a teenage girl or a bartender has more bottles
The new breed of bosses is best described as stupid. I currently love the little pep talks in roll call on how it's our responsibility to produce positive community interactions. Sure boss. 1st and 16th.
Hasan is a double merit promotee. Once you get a merit promotion you're FORCED to drink the Kool-Aid.
Lt. K has always been a goof. He has a special dislike for ANYONE! His notorious mood swings are known by anyone who has had the displeasure of working under him. This was just another way for him to mess with the troops. Great boss....not!
Anonymous said...
United we stand, Divided we lose our homes,love ones and go to jail. Will the BOSSES be visiting YOU in jail hair gels ? STAY F E T A L boys and girls. LET THE BOSSES GO TO JAIL!!!!!!!
5/10/2017 06:38:00 AM
a few years ago I would have laughed at the above comment. But, that was a few years ago. After what the command staff did to those folks in 008 is wrong, just plain wrong. They agreed at a meeting, after viewing the video, that everything was proper. Then the public outcry happens and the progressives are howling. Next? The superintendent throws everyone involved with the matter under the bus, everyone except himself that is.
Very condescending. Go FUCK Yourself.
Where's the fop in the 025 and 16th district fiascos? Shouldn't they be writing some paper on this bull shit.
If the supervisors in 016 want you to jump on board with this, tell them you're not doing it until they show you an opinion from the City of Chicago Law Dept.
You are a police officer sworn to uphold the law. This policy clearly seems to violate the law. The Law Dept would probably be called upon to defend you, at least in some capacity. So why not be pro-active instead of re-active. I'd go a step further and contact the Law Dept yourself, rather than wait for your supervisor to do this. And in the mean time, tell your supervisor you ain't doing jack mo-fo shit until the Law Dept issues it's opinion.
Cuz we all know that Rahm is too busy stepping over dead black people in order to get votes and a paycheck to do anything about this.
Call the next case. Not a cop.
The statute says citations . .. Looks to me like he's asking coppers to get out of the car once a day and talk to a citizen and document it . What wrong with that ?
Sic semper tyrannis= fuck you boss go do it yourself and get jammed up
Lt. Hasan is a joke. Twice merit promoted to sergeant and lieutenant. All he ever did in Major Accidents was go and check on his property that he owns in the ghetto. He is one dumb boss. He was never liked.
CPD SWAT Team rebels against the merit hacks in the chain of command. Hey Lt. "Lamb" and Hroma how ya like me now? SWAT team stood together against the Dept by sending a To/From to the chain of command stating, "That until this team is given take home cars, and compensated, they will NOT be showing up on their off duty hours. No pay. No play.
Good job SWAT. Solidarity!! Stick it to these bosses. Why doesn't SWAT have take home cars? That makes no sense. No pay No play. LMAO! Don't cave in. The city needs you. You don't need the city. I was HBT and year after year we were promised new equipment and take home cars. That was 20 years ago. Lamb is a Lt? Talk about a merit hack who never knew what he was doing. Same circus. Different clowns.
This is somewhat off topic but under the parole=death department, the driver of the vehicle that ran into the cta bus last Sunday that resulted in his demise and his three passengers was on parole. the iLlinois department of corrections has a 27 year old man named Bernard Chatman listed as being on parole
Oh my merit Sgt and merit Lt in the first class with all the cheaters that Hasan. Gee when will it change?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-man-holding-conceal-carry-license-shot-robber-in-attempted-carjacking-on-southwest-side-20170510-story.html
Always good to see these stories, rare as they are.
Is everyone in the 4th district a multiple merit goof?
Handling your assignments and avoiding CR's is not enough?
Sandbagged in 16...the price to pay for living on th NW side.
Church grannies, nurses, students, and retired folks beware Lt says sandbag anything that moves that won't cause a CR.
(Though a civil rights viol is all on you)
Are they still detailing Tact to 011 &15?
Midnights still covered by 3 units?
Does 1612/1621 exist after 9pm?
So the LT ratted out the Fetal and rewards the 20%'ers?
Is the Lt a 'Class of Jan 2017' fresh hatched/hardcharger?
Probably looking at midnights unless quotas are met.
Very class act anyway.
Stick together 016 - the pay is the same on any watch.
This is great! In my district, I have been singled out by LAPA bosses and been fucked with on numerous occasions. Next time they ask for activity I will tell them to eat a dick. Anything happens to me then boom! EEOC complaint. They will have a hard time explaining why I was singled out and given posts that no other officer has ever had on that particular watch, in that particular district, in the last 15 years.
Have no fear Summer mobile is here. Oh wait. It will not help you in 16. The important districts with fine tax paying citizens will get all the proper patrol.
30 pending and what said...
Where's the fop in the 025 and 16th district fiascos? Shouldn't they be writing some paper on this bull shit.
5/10/2017 01:46:00 PM
Exactly. We voted the last goof out because he didn't do anything. They should have held a press conference the moment the Sun-Times published that article about Escamerit and his 10 stop minimum.
5/10/2017 01:41:00 AM
Why don't you???
I love how coppers bash the "ACLU, FOP, IG and IPRA (or whatever it is that's replacing them)" but now want them to come to their rescue!
This Lieutenant is obviously an asshole but grow the fuck up!
5/10/2017 11:09:00 AM
Sigh. As has been stated before 'better to use them for our own purposes then get fucked by them.' You sound like a house mouse afraid of paperwork fall out. Hold still honey...you still got a little on your chin.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why don't you???
I love how coppers bash the "ACLU, FOP, IG and IPRA (or whatever it is that's replacing them)" but now want them to come to their rescue!
This Lieutenant is obviously an asshole but grow the fuck up!
No, asswipe. Use the ACLU to your advantage, and the key word is "use". The Dept. made a deal with the devil in order to fuck the lowly blue shirt over. Then, supervisory members of that same Dept. (many of which are clueless, unqualified, merit hacks) want you to jeopardize your career, assets, and possibly, freedom, by violating policy, and in some cases, city ordinance and state law, so the bullshit compstat numbers look better. A lot of this Dept.'s problems come from these bosses and their shitty way of "leading". They set up the rules. They now want you to cheat and make them look good. If calling them out means letting the liberal fucktards at the ACLU know, then use it. It shows where the problems originate.
5/10/2017 02:20:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sic semper tyrannis= fuck you boss go do it yourself and get jammed up
5/10/2017 02:56:00 PM
John Wilkes Booth worked for Lincoln?!?!!! Ha
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Voulgaris is sweating every regular officer on every car individually in 017.
I'm going to bet he's not sweating the Greeks he brought in with him. They always get a free pass.
018 back to wanting activity or leave a to from from housing cars. So we are told we can leave our fixed post to find activity. So who do I blame when someone gets shot and we were not at our FIXED POST ? The sgt will deny it and so on up the line. These bosses are idiots! A Parker is more important than preventing a shooting. This is not a it might happen It has happened and more than once . Idiots.
I understand the no quota thing. But at a certain point should people be expected to do something. I mean we get paid a decent amount of money. Is a blue card a day or something similar too much to ask? I know "I'm just required to answer my jobs". I work in the hood and we have days were I might get only one or two jobs a day. Just a beat copper here.
016 is totally undermanned! The Amish know it and are on the prowl! Was hoping someone would mention the story of bipolar douche Kohnen running out of his house in his Superman jammies to check out the commotion with the hot car. Still can't believe that he jumped into the hot car after the shit bag bailed, and drove around in the hot car looking for said shit bag!!! It was all caught on video and brushed under the carpet immediately!! If that was a lowly P.O., he/she would've been fucked!! White shirts are always going to cover for each other and fuck the blue shirts. This clown is unstable and needs to retire!! Hopefully there are enough Coppers in 016 in the KMA club who stand up for themselves and refuse to get bullied! Typical clueless, incompetent boss!! Luckily there are a couple good Sgt.s in 016 on 2nd watch. Stay fetal and safe!!
What a lot of people don't understand is that police work can't be tracked in a finite way. As if you worked in sales your boss can track your monthly sales, if your at a factory your supervisor can keep a record of how many units you make per shift etc etc. police work is different as many of us know. Our job is to serve and protect, so say you spend your day on your beat driving up and down the streets checking the alleys where burglaries are occurring. maybe you spend time in a commercial area where armed robberies are occurring. You can stop in wa couple stores, talk to the clerks and patrons or you hang out in your car along that same commercial stretch. What if there are narcotics sales from a house and you want to park in front for a few minutes to slow their sales or pickpockets by a CTA station on your beat and you walk around talk to a few patrons for 10 minutes two or three times a tour.
My point is the detersnt factor of a police officer in or out of their squad car cannot be measured in any sort of unit. If you did the above listed things along with handling your jobs maybe dropping paper, responding to some in progress jobs, backing people up maybe come across an arrest from one of those in progress jobs. I think that if you did that right there any tax payer would be satisfied with you. The problem is that bosses need to show some sort of activity as a way to prove how smart they are and that they did 'X' in response to what we situation be it homicides agg batts armed robberies. So these bosses many of whom only care about moving up in furtherance of their own careers have ways to FORCE the blue shirts to sue there bidding.
This is the point the media should pay attention. So say LT D bag wants a certain number of tickets or TSS cards or ISRs in a certain area during a certain time of a mission, maybe it's cold maybe it's raining maybe you stopped to help and old lady change a flat tire and you don't get those numbers they are looking for. Maybe the LT is in pissed now maybe you don't get the usual start time that you have. Maybe when you put in a day off it gets denied, maybe you get split up from your partner. All these things can cause unwanted or avoidable stress. In response you get most police to go along with the program get a couple blue cards or ISRs or contact card me back in the day to get the bosses off their back. This way they can keep their partner and start time and. It worry about he added stress of child care issues angry spouses etc that comes with denied time due and changing start times.
My final point is to explain the why. Why do these 'bosses' ask for these numbers. As I mentioned it's in furtherance of their careers but the goal is that Merit promotion and ultimately that Gold Star that comes with being a commander or higher. With that comes the Gold Braid pension and many years of draining the pension fund quicker than it should. Sure while most bosses want the many there are some who like the power yes that is true. And they will flex this power to lowly blue shirts in an attempt to make them feel small. In closing I say end the Gold Braid pension make LT the last pensionable rank and maybe you will finally get some people who want to actually lead the officers and come up with real solutions to fight crime instead of pleasing the masters and 35th street with bukkshit numbers in an attempt to gain more money and power.
Sorry for the long post.
"Gentlemen"? guess there are no females on the watch.
The statute says citations . .. Looks to me like he's asking coppers to get out of the car once a day and talk to a citizen and document it . What wrong with that ?
I'm just wondering if you are dumb or just playing for LT's team? You know exactly what he's asking for. However, I think that 016 cops should do more for the district where the most of us live, something beyond issuing parking tickets to get VRI at the beginning of the month
Lt . Conehead is not meritorious.
CompStat is, and always has been, a stat driven animal.
CompStat and quotas and indexes go hand in hand.
Why the hell do we still have the CompStat monster around??
Not a boss posting but, Seems to me many folks are getting the "Quota" law in Illinois wrong. It specifically speaks about citations. You can be told to do stops. So pull over grandma with a license plate light out and there is your "stop". There are ways around the orders. A little work a day keeps the boss away.
A municipality may not, for purposes of evaluating a police
officer's job performance, compare the number of citations
issued by the police officer to the number of citations issued
by any other police officer who has similar job duties.
Nothing in this Section shall prohibit a municipality from evaluating a
police officer based on the police officer's points of contact.
For the purposes of this Section, "points of contact" means any
quantifiable contact made in the furtherance of the police
officer's duties, including, but not limited to, the number of
traffic stops completed, arrests, written warnings, and crime
prevention measures. Points of contact shall not include either
the issuance of citations or the number of citations issued by
a police officer.
5/10/2017 12:53:00 AM
Well boss, here's the problem. Every stop we make now we have to drop paper of some sort. Would "curbed grandma for a minor violation because I'm headed to midnights if I don't do this once a day" fly as an acceptable narrative?
We have a stupivisor who asks for a number, but at least he sends ya home right after the mission and it is early... Nice way to repay right away
"And Nothing, but the truth" is exactly what you posted here SCC. I'm from 018 and I can't believe that it's happening all over again. If you recall about 5 or 6 years ago a captain, a lieutenant, at least five sergeants and yours truly georgass with his side kick Kenny doll angerrone were the listed defendants in a federal civil rights violation lawsuit file by two patrolman on the 2nd watch. It started the same way. The white shirts wanted numbers at any cost, but these two officers would not play their game to risk everything including, ironically, a civil rights lawsuit from a citizen. What came out in court was that the white shirts decided that if the officers on 2nd watch that were there on a bid would not give them the "quotas", then they would be subject to punishment. To be exact, "The Punishment Car". Which was a beat car that had to spend the whole tour of duty sitting in front of 365 W. Oak St(the lone project bldg.).
The punishment car could not leave for anything, not even to fuel up. White shirts would come by often, if not watch them from a distance w/binoculars for the purpose of sparring them until they would leave the district. Everyone fell in line, but these two brave Ofcs and they were ostracized by all the kiss asses & kids on the watch. Then the white shirts took away the car and the Ofcs were on the punishment foot post, you guessed it, at 365 W. Oak St. The Lodge wouldn't help, but a brave Law Office did. An all "white" Federal Jury held all the white shirts, CPD & the City of Chicago liable on all charges and ordered a substantial payment to the plaintiff/victim who is a "white" Patrolman. It is said that one of the defendants by the name of "Kenny" texted his subordinates in white shirts the following: We lost, but keep your heads up; nothing is going to change. Unfucken believable SCC !
My activity on the west side dropped from over 200 arrests in 2015 (pre isr) to 5 in 2016, all on signed complaints. This year I'm on pace to reduce it even further.
^^^^^^i'm in the same boat. Was doing a lot of box 1 arrests pre anti police era now you have to almost force me to pull out a complaint for the savage to sign. Guess what I discovered? I get paid the same! Holy shit! Back up your fellow officers, write paper, go home and repeat. PS im not a dog ass i just value my life, family and property more than anything.
For those of you wondering "retirement" and freedom from these dingbats is everything you thought it would be. Just not having to ever be around these ding a lings is like Fat Buddha giving you a 2nd life.
Do they still keep detailing 016 tac and gang personnel to the ghetto? If so, it makes sense now that they are trying to squeeze the blue shirts into working. Fuck the bosses and their counseling. Quit detailing officers to the shitholes.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
These meritorious promoted hacks were never the police. They get high enough on the ladder then they are put in a position to "lead' the real police and they realize they are in way over their heads. So they start to do stupid things like those mentioned, bring attention to themselves from those higher on the ladder. Those higher realize that these fellow morons need to be removed and poof the idiots are all reunited at headquarters. I believe these guy's are doing this on purpose, this department rewards incompetence. They don't want to be running a district or a watch so they do these things hoping they will get reassigned and hid somewhere sharpening pencils. Still get a take home car, come in around 10:00 leave at 1:30 or 2:00 they got it made.
I couldn't agree with this more !!! This department rewards Incompetance !!! How many bosses that I can think about that are complete morons and have no common sense, leadership skills, and have issues with power and they fuck up themselves up all the time and all they do is get shifted around or promoted or sent to headquarters !! Look at former captain TL from 019 3rd watch, having missions and missions and missions for years on the watch and then he leaves and same crime exists or less. His missions were a failure in reducing crime just as he was a failure .This man should have been demoted after wasting thousands of hours on his little sheets given out at roll call for his silly childish missions treating 20+ year veteran officers like they were 19 year old Loyola students of his and dozens and dozens of officers flee 019 because of his nonsense and for him exposing officers personal medical conditions to chastise them for being on the medical at roll calls and this department has the audacity to promote him and shift him around the department ! This man should never been more than a police aide and here he stands as a gold star. This is one example upon many we all can relate to and this is why the department will never get one more ounce of self initiated activity out of me cause we all just used as pawns for these bossss trying to make a name for themselves to climb ladder making double in salaries of ours and have zero compassion for the poor guy or gal pushing a beat car day in and day out , we have to beg to get out 10 minutes early and these (most but not all) white shirts cheat and steal company time with thousands of CU time on the books, sit in their air conditioned offices, barking orders and in many cases , Quotas , so they can look pretty at their yet another promotion graduation and we are left behind as shit on responding to another 19paul disturbance call LOOK OUT FOR YOURSELVES CAUSE MOST LIEUTENANTS AND ABOVE ARE NOT LOOKING OUT FOR THE LITTLE GUY AT THE BOTTOM, ONLY HOW THEY ARE TRYING TO COLLECT THEIR FUTURE RIDICULOUS AMOUNT OF A PENSION CHECK WHILE BANGING ON THEIR CHEST AS IF THEY ARE SPECIAL AND POWERFUL. SORRY WE REALLY KNOW YOU HAVE OBSESSION WITH POWER DOMINANCE I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU SAD PERSONALITY WHITE SHIRTS
Anonymous Anonymous said...
5/10/2017 01:41:00 AM
Why don't you???
I love how coppers bash the "ACLU, FOP, IG and IPRA (or whatever it is that's replacing them)" but now want them to come to their rescue!
This Lieutenant is obviously an asshole but grow the fuck up!
5/10/2017 11:09:00 AM
Sigh. As has been stated before 'better to use them for our own purposes then get fucked by them.' You sound like a house mouse afraid of paperwork fall out. Hold still honey...you still got a little on your chin.
5/10/2017 04:32:00 PM
Sorry, tough guy but I've been in a district on the street either on the watch or tact as a P.O. and a Sgt. for 31 years.
Bring any paperwork my way, just not your little whiny beefs.
Yes the times have changed but adapt accordingly junior.
I came on the job when we had a lot of Vietnam vets working the watch. These guys were the real deal and were great policemen!
They'd be embarrassed to hear officers like yourself crying
I'm really surprised to see that Lt.K. would do that. I've known him for years, going back to when he was in patrol in 018 and worked with me. He ALWAYS was a good working cop and team player. Even when he was promoted, he didn't forget where he came from and backed the troops. There has to be more to this story. I just hope he didn't go to the dark side....
Hey LT Kohnen Get off the computer we know its you. Stop treating adults who have more than 25 years on the job who work on the watch like kids. I think you are a little bully and if you tried treating a man like that in the private sector. They would beat your little ass til you said mommy. I'm done and enjoying retirement but if I ever run into you and you're retired I'm going to tell you to go fuck yourself and PLEASE tell me to take it outside. I'll show you what respect feels like....
Hey don't get it twisted, LT. English on midnights in 016 isn't innocent to this bullshit either. That little weasel will make it a point to mention to PO's that their numbers are down and he'd like to see em improve. If you want time he'll make it a point to look at activity and maybe you'll get it. Hey Boss why don't you spend that uniform allowance and buy some shirts that fit. Smedium shirts don't look good on you, have some pride in your appearance and btw You don't scare anyone with your wanabe tough guy walk. Maybe the young guys and girls buy it but we all know you're a phony. I cant wait til you leave the watch and you can make other people hate their job... I might not have 20 years but I risk it just like everyone else.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I understand the no quota thing. But at a certain point should people be expected to do something. I mean we get paid a decent amount of money. Is a blue card a day or something similar too much to ask? I know "I'm just required to answer my jobs". I work in the hood and we have days were I might get only one or two jobs a day. Just a beat copper here.
5/10/2017 06:47:00 PM
What does fire do?
Hey citizens, do you read our blog, do you see how utterly fucked up our department is? It's the tip of the iceberg....run by MORONS!!!!
Thank GOD I retired 3 years ago. Holy Shit what the fuck is going on? Anyway, my girlfriend suggested that I sit in at a "Shot Spotter" sales pitch at a local church so I went just for the hell of it. HOLY SHIT again. Some guy who claims to have been the police chief of two towns with forty years of service total tried his best to scare the shit out the 25 or so citizens that showed up. Shot Spotter wants to sell the city on a technology that will "hear" gun shots and notify street cops where they came from for a faster response. So .. the shots have been fired.. the victim are down or running their asses off and this thing hanging from a telephone pole every two or three blocks are going to do WHAT? Will it tell the officers which way the shooter ran or where the victim is? I never heard so much bullshit in my 25 years of service Remember the LOJACK joke? If you got stuck with the car with the Lojack gismo and it went off you'd fuck around for an hour following the damn signal around when it should be an insurance company issue. Now we're expected to go flying to a location that is being sent to units via internet from somewhere in California, yes California. From what I hear each "BOX" will cost the taxpayers, us, $65,000 per year , per unit . Fuck that. A phone call to 911 saying " somebody is shooting at so-n-so street , send the police has been good enough for 60 years or more. I hear the things are already in use in select districts. Whoever got payed off needs to be arrested. Would it have helped the two cops that got shot up last week in the "Back of the Yards" ? NO.... Anyway I was basically asked to leave the meeting because I was being disruptive.
Don't worry this quota issue has been floated around the south side also. "So you wanna stay in this unit? Well you gotta bring your numbers up. I realize units are not an assignment and you could be booted for any reason but it's happened with tact teams in the district as well
District 020 Ranger
Stay Fetal and Safe
Coming from the quietest district in the city where you can go 2-3 days with out a job, who in the world is a 020 District ranger? I would like to correct you on the district 020 thing, its the 020 district, not district 020. You are not in a sci-fi movie you goof.
U'd think these guys are dealing with a "Lt" like "Iron Mike" Ryan. Just not a leader, but will try anything and capable of screwing with your Family. Just cuz they spent four years of HS in a head lock it's now the PO's problem.
It's truly a shame to see The CPD in this type of influx.
The guys in 016 may want to contact an attorney. Hostile work environment? Being publicly named?
5/10/2017 09:48:00 AM
There certainly are a lot of snowflakes on this job these days. Sad.
Sorry, but timedue submitted 7 days in advance is by senority. File a grievance if denied. Stick up for yourselve.
From the comments:
Why don't we talk about lieutenant Hasan in 004. Guy has been asking for ISR's, stops and vehicle impounded for the past 8 months. If he doesn't get them he threatens to take people off their cars. Commander Sanchez knows about the Lieutenant's requests but pretends he has no idea about it. Place is a joke.
5/10/2017 12:57:00 AM
Sanchez is a triple merit himself. He thinks he's a true leader, and yet he can't even get his office staff to come to work on time. And Hasan is nothing compared to Bulnes (also merit). She comes late, leaves early, and her biggest worry is that her makeup is perfectly applied. She's the "Weezy" of 004.
Couple of things about 004. 10th ward clout still a big deal. Half the bosses live in four. A double handful of the bosses are multiple merit some are goofs. I have had merit bosses that were princes. So what! 004 gives these heavy bosses a great resume. It has the big three races. Different social classes. Heavy industry and commerce. And the revruns. Bulnes and Hasan are going up to higher rank or they wouldn't be there. The problem is that the police there. The blue shirts care more about their car and start time than sticking it to the boss. Bulnes hasn't pressured anyone for anything yet. She puts up 06 cars. Hasan "pressures" you and tells you he'll break up cars and so you can work with your partner you do what he says. That is called "quid pro quo". Stop giving a fuck about your partner because your not getting into gritty police work. Make friends with the watch. You'll have a good time every night. 004th district has more and better hiding spots than any other district. Be vocal and funny at roll call when the lt talks shit make an ass of him and he/she will stop. When they bounce you. Who cares? It's his car. When the secretary tells you you're bounced be positive. They have sucked dick to get what they want all their life, bosses cannot understand and are frustrated by someone who won't suck dick to be comfortable. Show the new guys there is nothing to be scared of and they won't listen either. Be a leader. You bunch of pussies.
All of my love for 004,
L. Thompson
(just kidding, seriously though the man is a god)
Anonymous said...
Lt . Conehead is not meritorious.
True, but he is a moron regardless.
@09:25 pm...Ummmm...It ain't Bob writing that, it's me, a retired cop for 6 yrs. If you missed my POINT, I gave a little history and wondered if he went to the DARK side....Apparently he did..So take it easy for Christs sake and enjoy your retirement already. I sure am....
I GUESS GOOD LT UNDERPANTS DOES READ THIS BLOG? As soon as I saw the first line I figured it was him or a fellow boss trying to justify quotas.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not a boss posting but,
.5/11/2017 01:13:00 AM
Anonymous Argyle Assassin said...
District 020 Ranger
Stay Fetal and Safe
Coming from the quietest district in the city where you can go 2-3 days with out a job, who in the world is a 020 District ranger? I would like to correct you on the district 020 thing, its the 020 district, not district 020. You are not in a sci-fi movie you goof.
5/11/2017 01:45:00 AM
I've gone a hole tour without getting a job in 20. It's a beautiful thing.
5/11/2017 01:13:00 AM - Such a tactic only works when COPS bow together.
When cops instead STAND together, those kinds of veiled THREATS don't work. There used to be this thing called a UNION where once could STAND together....but seeing as the (D) owns them, the only togetherness we see out here in Citizenland is BOWING together. Hmmmm, you wouldn't be trying to plant the seed of doubt would you, posing as a concern troll, you know, subtly "reminding" individuals that they are alone and will be targeted if they dare make any waves.....would ya?
Shot Spotter tech has to be sold, and taxpayer bought, with a quickness because that scams lifespan is so short. Cameras for automated tickets was pitched the same, and it fell flat also, and for the same reasons. SCAM. The UK has cameras everywhere, but crime goes on the same as it did before them. They just have better access to getting dirt on their targets of choice now - political opponents mostly. Don't get me wrong, technology, cameras and mics too, have their place. Everywhere and as part of cons are the CORRECT use or place. Yes, telling the truth about such things IS "disruptive".....to the money laundering machine it is very disruptive.
Don't worry this quota issue has been floated around the south side also. "So you wanna stay in this unit? Well you gotta bring your numbers up. I realize units are not an assignment and you could be booted for any reason but it's happened with tact teams in the district as well
5/11/2017 01:13:00 AM
Are you fucking retarded?
Hey SWAT jerk off you really fucked up. Now you are going to 24 hour shifts. Standards will be lowered with less training days to bring on more people. You thought HBT was a joke? The city is not going to cave in to give you D3 pay, take home cars and on call pay. Now you get no pay.
Hey SWAT jerk off you really fucked up. Now you are going to 24 hour shifts. Standards will be lowered with less training days to bring on more people. You thought HBT was a joke? The city is not going to cave in to give you D3 pay, take home cars and on call pay. Now you get no pay.
5/11/2017 10:25:00 PM
How you like me now?
Well boss, here's the problem. Every stop we make now we have to drop paper of some sort. Would "curbed grandma for a minor violation because I'm headed to midnights if I don't do this once a day" fly as an acceptable narrative?
5/10/2017 08:08:00 PM
You should try not to sound like a dumbass when attempting to be a smartass. The violation is the reason for the stop. It's that simple. Quotas and threats are bad, but your response is just dumb.
Sorry, tough guy but I've been in a district on the street either on the watch or tact as a P.O. and a Sgt. for 31 years.
Bring any paperwork my way, just not your little whiny beefs.
Yes the times have changed but adapt accordingly junior.
I came on the job when we had a lot of Vietnam vets working the watch. These guys were the real deal and were great policemen!
They'd be embarrassed to hear officers like yourself crying
5/10/2017 09:03:00 PM
Too bad they never taught you how to win a game of chess. Sgt? Gee, no wonder you sound like a suckhole. You still haven't cleaned your chin yet honey.
Argyle assasin? Listen ninja boy if you are the Argyle assasin in 020 then, the other copper can be a ranger if he wants! Lol! I would rather have it nice and quiet and make the same money as other coppers who are up to their armpits in Canadians all of the tour...just keep writing 65 year old guys who are having a drink or,two on the block. If you don't like not being busy you can bid out to a fast district so you can show them how it's done.
NYPD Comm. James O'Neill has banned quotas. Violating supervisors will be disciplined.
District 020 Ranger
Stay Fetal and Safe
Coming from the quietest district in the city where you can go 2-3 days with out a job, who in the world is a 020 District ranger? I would like to correct you on the district 020 thing, its the 020 district, not district 020. You are not in a sci-fi movie you goof.
5/11/2017 01:45:00 AM
I've gone a hole tour without getting a job in 20. It's a beautiful thing.
Haha, this comment is great! More power to you. I would love to go a day without getting a job. Enjoy it. Sounds like a dream.
Id a thought he would of went postal by now?
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