Here a Tax, There a Tax
The democrats' mantra - why cut spending when we can raise taxes? Again:
- For the second year in a row, the property-tax man is about to dig deeper into Chicagoans wallets.
On average, Chicago homeowners can expect a 10 percent increase — about $360 — when the second installment of their property tax bills arrive later this month, according to a new report from Cook County Clerk David Orr’s office.
It’s the second straight year of double-digit increases prompted in part by tax hikes approved in 2015 by Mayor Rahm Emanuel and the City Council. Those increases, for pensions and school construction, sparked last year’s bills to increase nearly 13 percent on average.
We certainly hope the FOP is asking for a commensurate pay raise to offset this double-digit increase in taxes, especially as we're required to live in this slowly devolving city. 13% last year and 10% this year? There isn't a single office-holder in northeastern Illinois who should have a job next election cycle.
Labels: money questions
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
64 Comments:
And yet, every election, the same assholes get voted in. The people who vote for these tools are truly brain dead.
Can we challenge the residency rules without giving up anything in contract ???
In 1992 Bill Clinton was elected primarily because the public was pissed at President George H.W. Bush....20 years later how is it these assholes are still in office, I do not know. But keep voting Scumbag-O-cRat
Can't wait to retire and jump on the band wagon of fleeing this sanctuary state, and move someone cheaper with less taxes
Yeah, whatever.....they will all be reelected because the citizens of cook county are soft as puppy shit.
This is getting ridiculous - my mortgage has already gone up over $400 per month in last 6 years, and now another increase? Well, my garbage men do a really good job...
Taxes will go up about $360? Where? Not anywhere that you want to live. I am looking at a $800 increase.
Guess I'll have to raise the rents again, because it won't come out of my pocket.
As soon as I retire, me and my family will move from Chicago and Hellinois!
Anyone who stays in Illinois and is retired, is stupid and a fool!
The citizens are fleeing Rome and censer can not understand why.Hint crime, taxes, no work,
Rome is falling apart. There answer: Moore welfare. I'm not paying for it any more!.
The next election?.
The pink faces know exactly when to levy the tax increase. The increase always comes in the second installment which is 45% of the annual tax bill, thus helping make the total look more palatable.
Taxes here are still cheaper than the burbs. Oh, and don't say that's because you get better schools. If you don't have kids, or they're all grown you still pay.
And my water bill is so expensive that I can't afford to water my grass either
How a top to bottom financial audit of all of that public money. Maybe taxpayers can have a "special auditor" or an " independent auditor" or perhaps a "bi-partisan financial forensic investigation.". Lots of money with little oversight and little or no accountability. How about re-examine the current practices before reaching deep into the pockets and purses of the working middle class.
Balanced budgets. Thats only for the private sector with all the tax regulation politicians write and then codify. Lots of red tape with endless reporting processes submitted to the government under the penalty of perjury for those signing off and in essence, ultimately taking accountability. If a business had "sloppy" or deceptive accounting practices, punishment with hefty fines and accrued interest await the firm and their financial executives face pending felony charges for financial malfeasance, tax evasion, etc. Or sent packing to collect unemployment compensation. Double standard?
See we really do fund our pensions! 9 percent per check, then through another tax increase which who pays for? You guessed it the city workers who are forced to live in this city! When will the bga, media or that hump msall ever look what the polititions in this city and state have failed to do! And failed to do the last 25 years of their careers! All city workers pay their share! Let's make that clear!
Maybe the Assholes should have paid the right amounts into the " Pension Funds " instead of creating the Ponzie Scheme they did.......Fuck Emanuel , let him take all the HEAT from tax payers for all the wasted spending !!!! Pay up assholes YOU OWE US OUR PENSIONS EMANUEL, MADIGAN,& CULLERTON, Hope none of you get re elected (FUCK YOU )!!!!!!!!!
No worries, All liberal slaves will vote Democratic. Change is well beyond their reach.
Yet the office holders will continue to hold office. One word. Democratic voters. Promised everything for their vote.
*Sorry. That's actually two words.
When are the elected going to do something for the tax payer?
They don't understand that there is a breaking point. Maybe they just don't care.
Good point about the raise especially with the soda tax coming up as well. (I know most will go out of crook county to buy it). Cost of living is rising at a higher pace then anywhere else.
No one living in Chicago, Cook County, and Illinois should vote for any politician who is running for another term. Until they learn to "CUT SPENDING" and "STOP TAXING"
But they will....it's their way.
Nuff Said...
Small mind voters, they relied on the voters being S T U P I D. And not caring enough to vote them out.
How can so many, have an equal voice, in their local government, and expect others to pay their share of the tax burden? With all the people leaving, there should be plenty of jobs. Get the lazy mofo's off their asses and to work! Some four letter words are not offensive or racist.
J.J.
Teachers do not contribute their fair share for pensions
That creep rahm wants to raise real estate taxes
Bull crap 💩
I don't know all the in's and out's of residency but FOP should at least look into it. For those who say "You knew it was a requirement for the job when you took the job", it's true. But there were other things that we had that we no longer have so at the very least benefits and job requirement are fluid. Somethings changed with Rahm in the past month, I'm sure it's for his own benefit, maybe it's re-election but bows the time to fight for this
We are saying because they have better schools. If you have 3 kids and send them to private or Catholic schoools here in Chicago that's close to 60k for each kid. 180k. Even paying the higher suburban taxes you still come out paying a lot less then here
I'm SOOOOO tired of getting screwed in the rear without any Lube...Jesus H. Christ, How I HATE these FRIGGIN Libtard Politicians....
Any one who is not retired and still thinks there will be enough $$ to fund their retirement pension for the rest of their life is seriously deluded...
The city has decided that it is their money, and they will do as they please with it. No matter that Judges have ordered them otherwise. The Law doesn't apply to them. The taxes will be raised, and no money will go to the pension funds...fact.
If U plan on staying in CPD and retiring (W/O Insurance) You had better be maxxed out in Def Comp. It's the only fallback...Unless you know how to invest and beat the market, in which case you should not be a cop...
Does anybody know if when the Pension fund collapses, do we still get a reduced Social Security check?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Taxes here are still cheaper than the burbs. Oh, and don't say that's because you get better schools. If you don't have kids, or they're all grown you still pay.
6/15/2017 06:22:00 AM
Agreed just got off the phone with my sister she has lived in Tinley park subdivision 15 years she is looking to move out, kids are raised schools (big drug problems like many suburban schools but try to keep it out of the media0 are just OK not great out there section 8 moving in and they have many arabs (Not racism realism) everywhere built a giant mosque many are not clean people leave it at that! her water bill metered same as ours is triple mine, her taxes on double lot are at $12,500 a year, monthly garbage pickup is $38.00 (Oh and they don't pick up anywhere near the things we throw out all have to be separated and extra bags are more money to pick up),you need a car to drive to any store.
Saying that to say this be careful what you wish for, we all want that paradise place, even look at once the "best city to live in" naperville shootings,crime,drugs section 8 welcomed! How about uber expensive Lagrange, in the last couple of weeks no secret was in media home invasions, and black kids on bikes robbing at gunpoint children! so the question is where is this ideal "land of Oz" anyone?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Taxes here are still cheaper than the burbs. Oh, and don't say that's because you get better schools. If you don't have kids, or they're all grown you still pay.
6/15/2017 06:22:00 AM
This is true. For example we live in Garfield Ridge I know idiots refer to it as "Garcia ridge" That is OK,you want to feel the pulse of an area the #1 person is if you have a regular mailman which we have, asked him about neighborhood and the "Garcia ridge" moniker he said yes some Hispanics are moving in, but majority are coppers and other city workers, and want to raise their families in a safe area! Then you look at what is going on with housing. Housing here we have 4 competing groups from area buying up all the old houses they can completely rehabbing them and selling them for anywhere from $300-500K and when you talk to some of them they are selling within 2 weeks at asking prices! No they are not section 8 them out they are buying them. what is being done to make Garfield ridge better on Archer? Many things are being developed and talked about, for example look at land cleared by 52nd and Harlem huge lot,Archer and Narragansett BBQ restaurant, New Aldi, on Archer and Harlem with many organic foods at responsible prices,we have Cta direct to El train, we have Pace bus on archer to all suburbs, another "secret" you can park your vehicle for $20.00 a month in a safe lot by metra train "heritage corridor" in summit and be downtown in 18 minutes at union station.
Oh and this Friday huge car show on Archer with food trucks, much of this revival is thanks to Al Caccitolo who is 23rd ward streets and san superintendent, who runs the Garfield ridge neighborhood watch and works tirelessly to keep this area engaged. We have up to 4 parades a year,a Christmas tree lighting, a newer ice skating rink it is still the city but it is so far a great place to live!
Drive around look at all the blue lights on, the we support our police signs, beats 811-812 and the entire 10 sector plus tact teams are around ever vigilant because they know we support them 110%!
Then cross "the border" into Summit 57th and Harlem complete block coming down for more business development,and that old VFW 62nd and Harlem is going to be something nice after approval of permits! Business does not invest in areas where they feel it will not be profitable! The coppers constantly crying about "residency" if you want out many suburban depts are hiring make the move let us know how that works out for you!! Tired of the crybabies!
Said it before, Say it again. When will the people circulate a petition requiring that there are "NO NEW TAXES OR FEE'S OR GAMBLING EXPANSION....ETC...ETC IN THE ENTIRE STATE UNTIL THESE(USE YOUR CHOICE ADJECTIVES AND NOUN DESCRIPTORS)DEFICITS ARE BROUGHT DOWN AND ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY NO PAY RAISES OR BENEFITS TO THESE IRRESPONSIBLE POLITICIANS UNTIL THEY ACCOMPLISH THIS"!
We are 2 years without a state budget, a states attorney arbitrarily interprets law to her satisfaction, a mayor defies the federal government using tax money to aid non-citizens, and a county commissioner creates a tax that makes the county a partner with the sugar soft drink industry while conspiring with the sheriff to find ways of releasing more criminals onto the streets of city, county, state putting every taxpayer at risk of life and property.
Everyone listen up, Fuck barrios and Rahm! From here on out no more Blue garbage can use! Everything goes in the regular fucking trash! Their blue garbage can cronies can take it up with the administration. Pay some home depot worker to re route your water meter. Change all your house hold light bulbs with LED's. and for goodness sake shop outside crook county for anything over 30 bucks. You 3yr wonders that live in buck town, fun town wherever close to the liberal base enjoy wasting your paycheck on bullshit you don't even use, no parking, drunks, hypes, meter drones and a shithead or ten to bash your head in after you show your shiny new star and tell them you the Pooleese!. Fuck you politicians all to hell.
There is only one solution.
You all know what it is.
Golf
Tango
Foxtrot
Oscar
Sooner rather than later.
Leave the city with all its taxes, crime and corruption.
Many better places await outside Illinois.
Just be sure to remember why you are leaving and don't bring your bad habits with you.
I was lucky to have two re-assessments lowered in the past 6 years. My assessed value is at $31,000 and is now at the level it was in 2009. But not for long on this cracker jack ranch.
Even though the assessed value vs. property value higher in 2009, the tax bill total is now $2000 more than in it was 2009.
Don't think for a moment the Crooks of County Cook don't know who suck money from. And to make it easier, I'm sure there's a city employee cross reference they use.
One thing for sure is that although SW is taxed a bit lower than the NW side, it seems they're percentage increases are catching up. The SW side is no longer an RE tax or freeloader/criminal safe haven it once was.
Nonetheless, the spending spree at CPS keeps getting the lion share of the bill with no end or harness to their corrupt money wasting.
It's for the KIDS is Rahm Bullshit.
It's for the greedy CPS/CTU...it's how they get pay raises for part time work.
If they don't get their money, they Strike...they quickly get to forget about the kids for all its worth.
And the weak, beleaguered patsy Rahm bends over backwards.
Squawk all you want for a 20% raise, Residency or to keep a bit of the DA, UA, PD's and BFD's.
All are open season targets and going to be negotiated out or down.
We have NO leverage But our Attendance on any given Day.
Better off renting out your Chicago residence and paying an equally high Sanctuary tax rate for a suburban crib.
Use a land trust too and ditch the decal.
In Mexifornia we have Prop 13 to protect us...sorta....limits increases to 1% per year and they never miss an increase,it was enacted becuase the liberals would hit homeowners every time they wanted to give away more free stuff,the final nail was all the seniors that were losing their homes..old folks vote! but the socialist in Sacramento continue to add special assessments(not a tax,according to them) to our bill,presently its about 30% of my tax bill...Every year we hear how they want to rid the state of this "this tax break for the Privileged" But dont dare piss of all business& homeowners..
Have the teachers contribute $$$ to their pension fund not the taxpayers !!!
Taxes here are still cheaper than the burbs. Oh, and don't say that's because you get better schools. If you don't have kids, or they're all grown you still pay.
6/15/2017 06:22:00 AM
Cool! Their shit smells worse then our shit. Glass is always half full huh dude.
Can't wait to retire and jump on the band wagon of fleeing this sanctuary state, and move someone cheaper with less taxes
6/15/2017 12:21:00 AM
AARP just posted the top 10 best retirement states. Obvious ones: Arizona, Florida, Nevada, South Carolina. Others: Montana, Idaho, New Mexico, Delaware. All for various reasons.
I hope you get and receive more than a $360 a year raise
To 6/15/17 6:22am. Taxes may be higher in the burbs but you don't have to beg to get a pot hole filled, and when you call the police they actually respond. And you get to buy a city sticker for $10 from a nice sweet gray haired lady who is polite and well mannered. And when you ask a question your response is not, "huh" "say what"
Thursday, 15 June 2017
Illinois Sends “Dear Contractor” Letters Ordering Them to Stop All Road Construction
Written by Bob Adelmann
Illinois contractors working on the state’s roads just received a “Dear Contractor” letter from the state ordering them to halt work because the state is out of money to pay them:
At this time appropriate funding is not available after June 30, 2017. Thus, work shall cease effective June 30, 2017.
Please bring all projects to a condition that will provide a clear and safely traveled way….
On July 1, 2017, all work shall cease except for maintenance.… The department will notify you when work may resume.
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/26267-illinois-sends-dear-contractor-letters-ordering-them-to-stop-all-road-construction
Since city employees are required to live in the city, and unlike citizens who can and often do move out of the city, there is no question that pay increases should be commensurate with tax increases.
rb
Here ye here ye! Listen up folks because here comes the back breaker. Ghetto folks are being scattered city wide under the falae label of " affordable housing". Of course these folks aren't paying for it themselves. Cancer is intentionally being spread to previously healthy neighborhoods. Lies lies lies!!!! Alderprick Arena's project is just on a much larger scale, but its already been happening.🍕
House up for sale time to move
welcome to edgebrooke 9000/10000 tax base one bt car 1621, how sweet it is Alice. Niles
Anonymous said...
We are saying because they have better schools. If you have 3 kids and send them to private or Catholic schoools here in Chicago that's close to 60k for each kid. 180k. Even paying the higher suburban taxes you still come out paying a lot less then here
6/15/2017 09:54:00 AM
I live west end of 008 Garfield ridge 3 kids in Byrne good school good grades!
Why is anyone against lifting residency you pay out the ass in the city and get very little in return. At least in the burbs I pay and still get a great return. As for its not always greener, well your wrong. I worked for CPD 7 years then left and THE GRASS is greener. The department I work for is great and I have a house that I don't mind paying property taxes on.
Force their hand and take it to court, you guys can win this.
Unscrupulous lying cheating politicians should not use funding the pensions as an excuse to raise taxes. But they are, to make the public resent us more. As if they didn't already.
OT: SCC - another bunch of crimes to add to the list of things Foxx won't prosecute...
http://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/states-attorney-wont-prosecute-most-financial-traffic-cases/
And remember, that sticker that goes on your car windshield, that ain't a tax. It's a sticker.
Fuck the CPS-CTU. Our property taxes again increased by double digits for the second year in a row. All this to fund their pensions. They expect to live high off the hog when they retire. Teachers work a part time job. 9 months a year. Off the summer. Plus get holidays off, 2 week Christmas break and a week Spring break. They only pay 2% of their pay towards their pension and alot of them have NEVER resided in the City of Chicago while working for CPS. Lots living in Palos, Tinley Park, Oak Lawn, Evergreen Park, Floosmore, Niles etc. Fuck them!
Just wondering: is this going to be an " EVERYBODY PAYS 10% MORE " increase or another vote- buying " SOME PEOPLE PAY 13% MORE" tax increase ( like the last one ) ??
Hope this increase in property taxes don't affect the 'poor, respectful citizens whose homes are valued below $250,000...who dat mean?
Just increase plastic bags from 7 cents to a quarter.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why is anyone against lifting residency you pay out the ass in the city and get very little in return. At least in the burbs I pay and still get a great return. As for its not always greener, well your wrong. I worked for CPD 7 years then left and THE GRASS is greener. The department I work for is great and I have a house that I don't mind paying property taxes on.
Force their hand and take it to court, you guys can win this.
6/15/2017 07:04:00 PM
Hopefully it will be taken to court soon. But it will not be easy to win. If it was an easy case to win it would have been filed already. A slam dunk case would have had the lawyers and FOP jumping all over it. Who wouldn't want to stay they won the case that lifted Chicago residency requirements?
Ulitimately the Illinois Supreme Court will have the final decision on the case so that might give you an idea of the uphill climb it is facing
Good luck though
Isnt it great?! My mortgage payment just went up $150 per month starting this month! Awesome! And the soda tax starts any day now! And after all this, guess who will all win their next elections in landslide victories! Guess! Youre right! Rahm, Madigan, and Preckwinkle! But theres one politician who may have trouble winning re-election. And thats that mean old Republican Bruce Rauner. I saw JP Pritzkers ad on tv just now and JB told me that this is all Rauner's fault! (the sad thing is that people actually DO believe that Rauner is to blame. Do they realize he's only been in office for like 2 and a half or 3 years???) Madness!
Somebody has to pay for all of these illegals. Think Rahm's gonna use his own money?
“Why is anyone against lifting residency you pay out the ass in the city and get very little in return”
6/15/2017 07:04:00 PM
Because “Muh property values!” They can't/won't face the fact that the city is built on a house of cards.
Even if they lift residency, I don't belive that many people will actually move. They ARE established in the community, and have a lot invested there, not just in terms of dollars. Sure, Alsip, Oak Lawn, Niles & Park Ridge will see a small rise in new residents, but who wants to drive all over Hell's half-acre to get to work?
rb
Does anybody know if when the Pension fund collapses, do we still get a reduced Social Security check?
6/15/2017 11:16:00 AM
Until they change the law, yes. You get 50% of what a citizen gets.
6/17/2017 01:09:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Does anybody know if when the Pension fund collapses, do we still get a reduced Social Security check?
6/15/2017 11:16:00 AM
Until they change the law, yes. You get 50% of what a citizen gets.
WRONG!!! Has nothing to do with what a citizen gets. If you get a federal, state,municipal or none profit pension the amount of social security depends on what your pension pays you. Therefore if you are not getting a city pension from the city, you get full social security
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Isnt it great?! My mortgage payment just went up $150 per month starting this month! Awesome! And the soda tax starts any day now! And after all this, guess who will all win their next elections in landslide victories! Guess! Youre right! Rahm, Madigan, and Preckwinkle! But theres one politician who may have trouble winning re-election. And thats that mean old Republican Bruce Rauner. I saw JP Pritzkers ad on tv just now and JB told me that this is all Rauner's fault! (the sad thing is that people actually DO believe that Rauner is to blame. Do they realize he's only been in office for like 2 and a half or 3 years???) Madness!
Why would your mortgage payment go up this month? Can't be property taxes, the second half installment isn't due until august and haven't been mailed out yet. Bank can't increase your payment until they actually see the increase on the bill and also the city won't be reassessed until 2018 and that increase won't be billed until the next year. I suggest you find out why, maybe an adjustable mortgage and interest rates are rising?
Seems city council has no problem wasting tax dollars. Example; there is no reason to retrofit city street lighting to led. If the light goes on at night then leave it alone. Seems they have money for this bs then they have the money to fund the police pension! Rahm you and your minions are full of shit!!!!!
"I saw JP Pritzkers ad on tv just now and JB told me that this is all Rauner's fault! (the sad thing is that people actually DO believe that Rauner is to blame. Do they realize he's only been in office for like 2 and a half or 3 years???) Madness!"
I have seen hundreds of times the endowments that the Pritzker foundation makes to Public Television broadcasting. Now Pritzker is running against Rauner. Is this a Mike Madigan hand pick to put the heat on Rauner? I wonder how much the Pritzker foundation has given to Mike Madigans campaign funds and PACs....
Keep the pressure on.....Rauner said he would drive the Illinois business as usual politicians crazy. I think it must be working.....I'm voting for Rauner!
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