Don't Look Now....
The homicide clearance rate has plummeted to about 17% last week.
Approximately 100 solved homicides out of 600-plus.
Special Ed thinks we're about to turn it all around though.
Approximately 100 solved homicides out of 600-plus.
Special Ed thinks we're about to turn it all around though.
Labels: stats
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
118 Comments:
Idiot cheaters & merit ohhhhh yay
Chicago has been a down ward spiral on getting violent crimes cleared-- look back at the 1960s to today... boy what shit this job has become
What's the conviction rate?
Business as usual.
I see another merit promotion in someone's future. This department is lost
What happened to all the Crystal Ball Crime Analytics?
What happened to good, old-fashioned police work?
Incompetence - the driving force behind the "new and improved" CPD.
That's what happens when you "merit" promote relatives Larry, Moe, and Curly to leadership positions.
"Get Busy!!"
"I'll murder you later."
For Duty, Honor, and Humanity - the CPD.
Well south has an absentee LT and Commander and supervisors that have no business being in the detective division. They don't have clue most were never detectives and came from patrol with no clue what detectives do.
At some point, someone will be convicted with first degree murder and receive only probation. Good job, Cook County.
Interesting reading, to say the least. Little Rahm really has his 9 1/2 fingers in everything. Hopefully, he loses some more in jail.
http://amp.dailycaller.com/2017/11/14/dem-it-aide-used-political-influence-to-have-fraud-charges-dropped-in-pakistan-paper-says/
You know what keeps running through my head? Chris Kennedy's campaign slogan. And I know why because of the like of politicians Preckwinkle, Foxx and Dishonorable Hooks.
17%, I'm surprised its that high when we're the ones always on trial.
Is that a clearance by arrest and prosecution or an exceptional clearance? And if case goes to trial, what is the conviction rate?
Detectives keep spinning the clock and I don't blame them. What's the point of solving murders if there's no punishment.
Hire back retirees. No faith in new clouted crew.
Crime is out of control.
Don't look at the reality....and ask why.....look towered the future, where there is promise .
Reminds me of the last caps meeting I attended. The people who attend every other month aren't looking for real solutions, they just want to be jerked off.
Nothing changes for the better but they refuse to investigate other options.
Insanity.
According to the last decennial U.S. Census Bureau data, there are thirty-three (33) U.S. cities with populations in excess of 500,000.
At 17 percent, Chicago has the worst clearance rate for homicide/murder of all 33 of the most populous cities.
Since local mainstream media is complicit with City Hall cover-ups, this damning fact is suppressed.
"Chicago Proud???" NOT!
Not a problem.
All these newly minted Dicks with less than 8 years OTJ who've never worked the ghetto or called Felony Review for an upgrade will get to the bottom of it all.
Here's something fun to try the next time you interact with a "detective" on an applicable scene: ask them for the number to Felony Review or the ME's office without referring to their FLOP book.
Hold on let me turn the video camera on.
Are they gonna promote more detectives? If so, how many? 200 detectives are in the budget for 2018. Will they make more than that or are they gonna wait until the clearance rate is at 0?
I belive only 10 percent can't trust the numbers CPD gives out the FBI doesn't use our crime numbers
That number is bullshit too.
The real clearance rate is now about 5%
Arm up, and always leave evidence of your whereabouts if you want your murder solved to give your relatives some peace of mind.
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I would like to call everyone's attention to the fact that there is absolutely NO WAY to enforce the judge's order of no Facebook. NO WAY....think about it! This violent predator will be living on the public dole, spending welfare on drugs and living the "same ole, same ole."
Too many rules and restrictions. No more nightsticks and phone books.
In part, this is a direct effect of ISRs being mandated by law as pushed by politicians. You make it more complicated to stop someone and you're gonna get police who take a pass at stopping anyone at all. And if police are stopping less people, less people get arrested for crimes including murder.
Another part is the shortage of detectives and the deterioration of experience in the ranks over the years thanks to retirement and slow promotions.
The only way to raise the clearance rate is to pressure officers to bring in more one-rock arrests, ANOV’s for smoking on a CTA platform,, juveniles for “trespassing”, and movers.
Why is that news? The clearance rate has been terrible for years. Has anyone at top lost their job? No. Why not? Good units all have one thing in common, strong leadership, that's hardly the case with Detective division. A leadership change at top levels is necessary in order change the results. Way to easy to get away with murder in Chicago. The Chicago Capone era image of the 30s in now morphing into the gang murder capital of this era. Nice image nationwide and in fact worldwide, in the age of social media bad news travels very fast and very far.
Did they take away her free phone or free internet, or confiscate her computer. Bet we didn't. She's already on line spreading her story.
I'm putting my hands up and taking a knee.
@I Fart In Your General Direction
I know officers in patrol with 26 years otj that don't know those two numbers. Lay off the new guys, we need them.
The dicks are spending way to much time sending out neighborhood crime warnings and begging for clues to actually solve any murders. You don't get many results for 100k detective jobs, maybe should raise pay that will get better results. NOT! Heads need to roll from the top down. The private sector would never stand for results like this without quick and decisive changes. Your saying this isn't the private sector we're the police. What happens in military when units fail, they change leadership. Way past tome for new leaders in Detective division.
Maybe if Chicago when back to the old school days of policing things would get solved. I'm not talking about the 60's era either, I'm talking about the 1800's. Kcuhc Sirron worked his own cases and cleared 90% of them. No gun needed. Just his hands and feet. Our society wants officer friendly to try to serve a murder case?? Would you serve meat casserole at a vegetarian Party??
J.J.
Anonymous said...
Hire back retirees. No faith in new clouted crew.
12/10/2017 12:54:00 AM
Believe me, no one who was any good wants to come back
Area South Comnander RB....All merit..no dic experience at all
Area South VC Lt RM...All merit...no dic experience and has side action female working in VC as a Sgt (merit too)
Area South RBT Lt EW....all merit
This is the tip of the iceberg...the whole division is just like this.
"Earned, not given." My ass.
I am surprised that the clearance rate is that high when the city, State Attorneys Office, and higher ups in this department who are looking for their next promotion are all more concerned with trying to hang a police officer for farting the wrong way and violating the Officers rights then with going after the car jackers and murderers.
Anyone else notice the in-car cameras being put in these newer vehicles are complete crap? Just get rid of them already. We have body cameras now
The Clear Up Rate is at 17%
Terrible. Terrible
Make some Command Changes
Have Aldermanic Hearings on this Issue
CPD needs New Command Strategies
No need for Body Cameras
17% Clear Up Rate means 83% of the crimes are not Solved or Not Assigned
83%. Not Solved. Terrible. Terrible
"Not a problem.
All these newly minted Dicks with less than 8 years OTJ who've never worked the ghetto or called Felony Review for an upgrade will get to the bottom of it all.
Here's something fun to try the next time you interact with a "detective" on an applicable scene: ask them for the number to Felony Review or the ME's office without referring to their FLOP book."
My god, you are pathetic. Can't wait until the last of these surly ass coppers retire and die out.
Need some non hipster detectives with 4 years on the job. Also, What is with the skinny high water dress pants and brown shoes with black pants. Have these hipster det even been to a shooting scene before they got made? Geesh
Everyone makes fun of the current criminal system in Mexico, Yet we here in the United States have shown the same judicial outcomes as third world banana judge..hooks
CPD AND IT's Detect Division are now laughing stock of the Nation. Thanks Rahmmie the Commie and Vladigan.
CPD Detectives of old were the best. Happy Retirement & RIP. The Real Deal
The new police academy will fix everything...
That clearance rate INCLUDES ALL CCX cases as well. Cases that are cleared closed by arrest and prosecution probably less than 10%. Think about that.
13th Period is tough on the Area, so bad you have junior detectives yelling at crime scene po’s.
Truth is they’re all solved cases, committed by someone’s cousin that community members wish to resolve on their own.
Only1400 junior varsity SSL’ers is proof.
There should be a Clear-Closed Exception by Community classification, maybe it’s coming...your welcome.
The Jugghead Special Ed Crime Reduction Strategy is winning.
Just ask him.
Fact: There are more DEAD MURDERED KILT folk on Special Ed’s 1-1/2 + years as StoogeIntendent than there are folk on the SSL.
In the D November and December are clean up months. It's the last time that the lieutenants and sergeants can push through weak clearance cases to be approved. D Commanders love it because there are so many cases to clear and than the year is over and no one goes back to look at them. Clearance rates up and all the commanders and lieutenants and sergeants keep their spots.
As one Sgt in area north is famous for boasting. " the worst day in the D is better than the best day in patrol, and I'll do what ever it takes to stay here....what ever it takes including throwing a det or a po under the bus "
Don't blame the Detectives! For those of us who have over thirty years on, we remember how Detectives would go aggressively at offenders and witnesses and "WITH THE HELP" of the states attorney, they put together some real good cases. The Democrats in this city have put an end to that. No Detective is going to put their job on the line. Everything needs to be done 100% by the book and it results in what we have now. Put the blame where it belongs, Rahm, Obama, fox, dart, preckwinkle. The bosses in this Department do not have your back and they micromanage everything. Our criminal justice system is a joke, the city and county are a joke, and the state is a joke. Until people wake up, this is the new world we live in.
detectives are arriving on the scene and yelling at the protecting the crime scene officers!!!
the detectives too rather not be at the same crime scene!!!
Anonymous said...
Hire back retirees. No faith in new clouted crew.
12/10/2017 12:54:00 AM
What "retiree" is their right mind would want to come back on the job? Not this one, that's for sure!!
As a brand new dick from the last class off the list I might add this was a culture shock for me. Hey I love being a cop i work hard, I work o.t., but I also have a family and I have a life. To be honest its damn near impossible to clear these cases with the asa's and all the rules put in place. You have to wait months for DNA hits and our technology is outdated. Just to watch a pod video it takes me an hour to play it because the computers and dvds or wacked...that should be the easiest thing to figure out im not a computer genius and I'm not trying to be one. Also even if you want to dive into a case your getting hit with another the next day especially in the summer so you Just WANT to get the stuff out of your inbox. I come from a fast district but I don't want to work o.t. everyday I don't want court everyday. You get burnt out quick. Some guys love it but not me. I earned my spot and am not a lazy dog but we are severely understaffed and outdated technology and computer systems. I think it should be a unit that just watches pod,private video, and speed and red light video and gives a written report to the detective...that would save hours in itself but like I said I'm new what do I know
Need more dicks with 3 years on the job. Never even made a murder pinch, never called felony review, never wrote a search warrant. Not sure how the clearance rate keeps going down....
Hur dur I passed a test. Spare me.
I'd like to see the numbers of how many murderers are identified and an arrest warrant is refused. Or how many are caught and charges refused by the ASA.
Filmed in NYC - applies to present Chicago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAMGtJLNy4s&sns=em
17% cleared are the domestic violence homicides , maybe a few gang related heater cases when a young child is executed or hit by stray gunfire . I say assign all merit detectives , sergeants to all gang , drug related homicides . After all those victims deserve the best and brightest merit hacks to solve crimes .
The problem is that the States Attorneys Office won't charge anything these days. The only way it gets charged is if the offender walks in admits he did it, throws the murder weapon on the desk and hands over his cell phone with a video showing the deed.
The ASAs will still make you jump through 50 hoops and take days if not weeks to approve the charges. This is nothing new, I has just been worse these last few years.
If the ASAs office think there is a 1% chance they may lose in court, there will be no charges.
Well south has an absentee LT and Commander and supervisors that have no business being in the detective division. They don't have clue most were never detectives and came from patrol with no clue what detectives do.
So all these detective superstars at Area South need their absentee Lt, incompetent supervisors & Commander to clear homicides?
put all detectives in the area. too many are "chillin" in the district offices
Well south has an absentee LT and Commander and supervisors that have no business being in the detective division. They don't have clue most were never detectives and came from patrol with no clue what detectives do.
Amen. HGS has maybe ONE or TWO sergeants that were dicks. One of two is actually helpful with questions on how to do an investigation. But hey they are great at answering the phone.
If you don't get on one team on 3rd watch you don't get trained I guess
They have been trying to clear alot of murders through the detective division chain of command. And i do mean they are trying hard.
For Those who know where to look you probably already seen the Shenanigans. And its the same old merit Sgt’s fingerprints on it. Happy new year
Left Hand EDDIE has got His Head so Far Up Rahms ASS , Its Not Funny
I wonder what’s the clearance rate for the screaming detective?
If I were a criminal, and I had an 83% chance of getting away with taking out someone I didn't like (or even if I hit someone I didn't know while targeting someone I did know), I wouldn't worry about blasting away.
Chances are good the cops won't clear the case, and even if they do, I gots Kimmy and Hooks in my back pocket, so I won't even go to Jail.
And if by some magical happenstance I do go to Jail, Dart will give me pizza if I jerk off! And after a while, iffin I'ma good, he'll let me out with da ankle bracelet - and dem things aint never watched...
So it's all good. I'll spend the winter in Jail, get out for summer! Boom boom mutherfuckers!
Proclaiming your city to be a "sanctuary city" is a shameful thing when those given sanctuary are the ones preying upon the law abiding citizens of the city.
Infringing upon the rights of the law abiding citizens, so they can't resist the criminal, shows just how low politicians can be.
J.J.
Not a problem.
All these newly minted Dicks with less than 8 years OTJ who've never worked the ghetto or called Felony Review for an upgrade will get to the bottom of it all.
Here's something fun to try the next time you interact with a "detective" on an applicable scene: ask them for the number to Felony Review or the ME's office without referring to their FLOP book.
12/10/2017 02:42:00 AM
That really doesn't mean shit. I haven't known the number to a district Ive worked in for the past 6 years. And no I don't think Ill ever need to call Felony Review from a pay phone.
Must be all those merits up in the D UNIT who hide in the office pretending they are legit WHITE SHIRTS.
I've been hanging out now for a FEW DECADES and these new batch of SGT, LT, and CMNDRS scare the F^&k out of me.
50 % of them are multiple merits promoted another 20% have never been a Detective.
Throw in the promoted who have worked as CAPS,SCHOOL officer, HQ desk dolly, Domestic violence, Court paper shuffler, commander secretary, OR DRIVER all great people.
Special ED can't even supply cars for detectives?
They should pay homicide DICKS more but oh well... That number you posted means little because it say nothing about people going to prison. CLEARANCE is not a law term its a gimmick. They question is how many people actually went to court for killing someone and the number is single digits.
Now picture the conviction rates of BATTERY TO POLICE OFFICER and you will be extremely pissed. (HQ does have that number by the way)
IFIYGD said:
Here's something fun to try the next time you interact with a "detective" on an applicable scene: ask them for the number to Felony Review or the ME's office without referring to their FLOP book.
Hahahaha. How true. 90% of today's Dets were never the police to know the # to FR, nevermind the gun desk , LEADS, etc. Ya think they know what a raid book is? The pax # to OCD to get an RD? When you have somebody that was never the police and no institutional knowledge to teach them, of course the clearance rate is going to be low. We're a pathetic dept.
Yeah blame it ALL on the news detectives who graduatied earlier this year. Because we all know, prior to this year we were one for one.
OT:
Ald. John Arena and Ald. Gilbert Vilegas want to bust out the Northwest Home Equity Program.
They want to blow the money on home repair loans to constituents in the shittiest areas of 025, 017, and 016.
The loans will never be paid back, and Vilegas and Arena are planning on getting their “skim” through kickbacks.
This program was formed to assure your home equity if the city tanked.
Do not let them loot this.
Call your state reps and senators and demand they block it.
Demand that Emanuel block it, or NO turnout on NW side for him.
Can someone do a breakdown by Area? Please I need a good laugh.
So do these clowns use Police shootings, self defense shootings...ect to beef up that exceptionally low clearance rate? Of course all a "clearance" is is a suspect charged or identified so you can already take a bunch ID'ed and living large in Mexico until the heat is off.
I wonder what the actual rate is of murder convictions that actually fit the heinous crime? Maybe 5% ? Its pretty fucking unusual. Normally its like my friend John Matthews who got his head bashed in and then a few years later the asshole who did it is coaching kids in the 'hood again.
And we're worried about where the paper car goes...
Earned not given. Sir you have only earned the disgust of the proud marines that served. Those men and women who fight as do police officers for those who cannot fight for themselves. You are a disgrace to the Corp and the judicial system. I’d rather see you standing in front of a garbage truck for your self grandiose photo shoot than in front of the very symbols the Marines stand for. You may as well have slapped that young disabled man in the face yourself with that pathetic sentence you handed out. You already slapped
The Marines and the Police officers in their faces.
Area South is a train wreck. All the quality supervisors have left for the shooting team. Ew detectives have no one to advise them because the Sgts in HGS are clueless to doing their job. The Lt., while a nice guy, seems lost and just waiting for the promised gold star.
"Did they tale away her free phone or free internet, or confiscate her computer?" - 6:50 AM
Who is "she/her"?
Anonymous said...
"Not a problem.
All these newly minted Dicks with less than 8 years OTJ who've never worked the ghetto or called Felony Review for an upgrade will get to the bottom of it all.
Here's something fun to try the next time you interact with a "detective" on an applicable scene: ask them for the number to Felony Review or the ME's office without referring to their FLOP book."
My god, you are pathetic. Can't wait until the last of these surly ass coppers retire and die out.
12/10/2017 08:14:00 AM
You mad bro'?
The butt-hurt is strong with this one...
Piss off and spin the little propeller on your
beanie at the same time.
. I think it should be a unit that just watches pod,private video, and speed and red light video and gives a written report to the detective...that would save hours in itself but like I said I'm new what do I know
You should demote yourself
You want to trust somebody else to do your job?
Please tell me you are not in Central.
Do your job.
The D-Unit if just fucked up period. I tell anyone who carries, if you have to shot someone even if it justifiable, and you have the change to get into the wind, leave the scene. You have a 80/90% change of never being identified and if you are so what.
Anonymous said...
If I were a criminal, and I had an 83% chance of getting away with taking out someone I didn't like (or even if I hit someone I didn't know while targeting someone I did know), I wouldn't worry about blasting away.
Chances are good the cops won't clear the case, and even if they do, I gots Kimmy and Hooks in my back pocket, so I won't even go to Jail.
And if by some magical happenstance I do go to Jail, Dart will give me pizza if I jerk off! And after a while, iffin I'ma good, he'll let me out with da ankle bracelet - and dem things aint never watched...
So it's all good. I'll spend the winter in Jail, get out for summer! Boom boom mutherfuckers!
12/10/2017 03:29:00 PM
I like the way you think, 10-4 brother...............
Anonymous Anonymous said...
As a brand new dick from the last class off the list I might add this was a culture shock for me. Hey I love being a cop i work hard, I work o.t., but I also have a family and I have a life. To be honest its damn near impossible to clear these cases with the asa's and all the rules put in place. You have to wait months for DNA hits and our technology is outdated. Just to watch a pod video it takes me an hour to play it because the computers and dvds or wacked...that should be the easiest thing to figure out im not a computer genius and I'm not trying to be one. Also even if you want to dive into a case your getting hit with another the next day especially in the summer so you Just WANT to get the stuff out of your inbox. I come from a fast district but I don't want to work o.t. everyday I don't want court everyday. You get burnt out quick. Some guys love it but not me. I earned my spot and am not a lazy dog but we are severely understaffed and outdated technology and computer systems. I think it should be a unit that just watches pod,private video, and speed and red light video and gives a written report to the detective...that would save hours in itself but like I said I'm new what do I know
12/10/2017 10:00:00 AM
BOO HOO, you can always resign and come work in 15 and feel my pain motherfurcker.
Who cares I'm glad the Clarence rate is 17% i want it to be at 5% no one should be doing anything stay fetal don't you people see what they are doing to coppers these days!!
Because there’s no accountability. The talent retired. They aren’t held to any standard.
You guys are so right! Man before last January when all those new detectives got promoted, this department was on the ball! It was amazing, you old timers really took care of business. I mean shit what was it 900 murders a year in the 90's? Freaking real police brother! And man since 2000 that's when you guys really cracked down on on these lowlife scum. Like I said too bad 11 months ago everything fell apart because some 4 year wonder doesn't know the number to felony review.
Can you feel the sarcasm? Cause I'm laying down pretty thick.
For those who are blaming the detectives, shame on you if you are the police. Picture trying to get witness statements from the same people involved in the domestics you break up. Good luck! Everyone is uncooperative and anti-police, yet you expect cooperation to the extent of cases being regularly cleared? That's a complete joke and one would have to be delusional.
It is a known fact that new detectives should never go to a supervisor with a question or for advice, they are told to ask veteran detectives because they would know the answer or tell you how to get the answer for yourself. (9 times out of 10 the supervisor would send the newbie to a specific person anyway)
Why is Jackals showing 12.7. The 17% would be an improvement. Just curious. Both numbers should be an embarrassment to all in Detective division. The last several years have been the same, when is someone going to lose their job.
Well of the approximate 700 murders how many are misdemeanor murders that no one including their families are people that shouldworry about. I mean you her the numbers on the news every day, “5 shot 3 dead,” and in other news Forest Claypool to resign. No one is asking who what where and why 5 people were shot and three people are dead. Even the BLM movement isn’t asking questions. There’s no participation by the community or the families so what’s the point. Send Det’s out to document what occurred and gather the facts and move on to the next scene. The writing is on the wall ladies and gentlemen, they don’t want you sending anyone to jail. So until there is a real victim and a case that deserves to be worked stop pointing fingers at anyone. Work your own cases and fill out that yellow slip.
Where are we at on the detective's list (non-merit)? 200? 250? Any word on promotions coming up?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
IFIYGD said:
Here's something fun to try the next time you interact with a "detective" on an applicable scene: ask them for the number to Felony Review or the ME's office without referring to their FLOP book.
Hahahaha. How true. 90% of today's Dets were never the police to know the # to FR, nevermind the gun desk , LEADS, etc. Ya think they know what a raid book is? The pax # to OCD to get an RD? When you have somebody that was never the police and no institutional knowledge to teach them, of course the clearance rate is going to be low. We're a pathetic dept
So let me get this straight. You two are ranting because you took the dick’s test and didn’t score high enough and didn’t get offered a merit promotion? Two time losers. Here’s something funny why didn’t you passed the dick’s test smart guy? Detectives have other important s*** to remember than the department’s phone directory.
Area South a joke. I know everything but I'm not doing nothin. I special. Take that Staples
Anonymous said...
Area South is a train wreck. All the quality supervisors have left for the shooting team. Ew detectives have no one to advise them because the Sgts in HGS are clueless to doing their job. The Lt., while a nice guy, seems lost and just waiting for the promised gold star.
12/10/2017 07:33:00 PM
A/S lost DS, TM, WM & TG to the shooting team and they are missed, the others who went there were no great loss.
Many crimes are solved just by social media. Criminals post everything on social media, try telling that to an old dick. They’re still waiting on patrol to walk Lil Johnny into the Area like back in the old days. Meanwhile...
WHAT A MIRACLE ,What a coincidence this happened so fast Under Left Hand Eddie , Lets all give him a Promotion to be the Bullshitting Clown on BOZO CIRCUS , That would be the Proper Promotion .
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Because there’s no accountability. The talent retired. They aren’t held to any standard.
12/10/2017 10:42:00 PM
It goes further back, when a patrol chief became chief of dicks. He disseminated the entire detective division, caused a mass exodus of experienced veteran detectives, replacement them (merit types) with family and friends; the rest is just history and it's effect is still felt today.
90% of Captains ,Commanders were Merit Sgt. Merit Lt .
CPD is supervised by stupervisors that cannot pass a test
You guys are so right! Man before last January when all those new detectives got promoted, this department was on the ball! It was amazing, you old timers really took care of business. I mean shit what was it 900 murders a year in the 90's? Freaking real police brother! And man since 2000 that's when you guys really cracked down on on these lowlife scum. Like I said too bad 11 months ago everything fell apart because some 4 year wonder doesn't know the number to felony review.
Can you feel the sarcasm? Cause I'm laying down pretty thick.
12/10/2017 11:01:00 PM
No.....what you are laying down is smartass......and we all know what comes out of ass.........yep.........however smart it thinks it is..............
Anonymous Anonymous said...
For those who are blaming the detectives, shame on you if you are the police. Picture trying to get witness statements from the same people involved in the domestics you break up. Good luck! Everyone is uncooperative and anti-police, yet you expect cooperation to the extent of cases being regularly cleared? That's a complete joke and one would have to be delusional.
You are about half right at best. Not easy today, but never was. When the detectives were clearing more cases do you really believe the citizens in the community where most murders were committed, 011 and 007, were ever pro police and cooperated in the investigations. I can tell you they weren’t and they didn’t. Don’t believe this is new
Anonymous Anonymous said...
As a brand new dick from the last class off the list I might add this was a culture shock for me. Hey I love being a cop i work hard, I work o.t., but I also have a family and I have a life. To be honest its damn near impossible to clear these cases with the asa's and all the rules put in place. You have to wait months for DNA hits and our technology is outdated. Just to watch a pod video it takes me an hour to play it because the computers and dvds or wacked...that should be the easiest thing to figure out im not a computer genius and I'm not trying to be one. Also even if you want to dive into a case your getting hit with another the next day especially in the summer so you Just WANT to get the stuff out of your inbox. I come from a fast district but I don't want to work o.t. everyday I don't want court everyday. You get burnt out quick. Some guys love it but not me. I earned my spot and am not a lazy dog but we are severely understaffed and outdated technology and computer systems. I think it should be a unit that just watches pod,private video, and speed and red light video and gives a written report to the detective...that would save hours in itself but like I said I'm new what do I know
Did you ask any detectives what you were stepping into when you took the detectives test? This isn’t new or distinctive to you. It’s been going on on for years and years. Too many po’s watch too much TV and believe these stupid detective series. You seem like a decent person and I can tell you one thing and I hope it helps. Any detective will tell you he was overwhelmed when he started in the detective division and it took some time to feel comfortable. You have to adjust and I can tell you it gets better
If you feel you have to spend more time with your family and don’t want to work OT, then you have to make a decision. Stay in the Detective division or go back to the unit you came from. There’s pros and cons to every assignment but it’s up to you to decide. Nothing on the COD is perfect
Fat Fuck Ed will be doing backflips when he announces we are down 100 homicides from last year in 2018. Job well done, Ed, couldn't have done it without your support. 650 homicides - don't talk about that though
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Where are we at on the detective's list (non-merit)? 200? 250? Any word on promotions coming up?
They've made two classes each of 120 so just subtract 240 from your original rank order.
I'm around 340 now. In the 2018 budget, there's supposed to be 200 detectives made.
Who knows how many on the original list got promoted to SGT, retired, are on the medical, or now won't take the promotion so its hard to tell what exactly your rank order is.
I'm not planning on them calling me until 2019 at the earliest.
rahmmie , special ed bragging about police cameras
does every body guard assigned to the mayor and other politicians have a body camera
if not why not
how about the 50 flunky alderman that can carry a gun ?
As a brand new dick from the last class off the list I might add this was a culture shock for me. Hey I love being a cop i work hard, I work o.t., but I also have a family and I have a life. To be honest its damn near impossible to clear these cases with the asa's and all the rules put in place. You have to wait months for DNA hits and our technology is outdated. Just to watch a pod video it takes me an hour to play it because the computers and dvds or wacked...that should be the easiest thing to figure out im not a computer genius and I'm not trying to be one. Also even if you want to dive into a case your getting hit with another the next day especially in the summer so you Just WANT to get the stuff out of your inbox. I come from a fast district but I don't want to work o.t. everyday I don't want court everyday. You get burnt out quick. Some guys love it but not me. I earned my spot and am not a lazy dog but we are severely understaffed and outdated technology and computer systems. I think it should be a unit that just watches pod,private video, and speed and red light video and gives a written report to the detective...that would save hours in itself but like I said I'm new what do I know
12/10/2017 10:00:00 AM
You do know that you can go back to patrol ?
Where are we at on the detective's list (non-merit)? 200? 250? Any word on promotions coming up?
12/11/2017 04:37:00 AM
Somewhere around 230 give or take a handful. Not sure about the next classes, heard they were to make nearly 100 in the fall which never happened. We will be neatly 200 short of the budget numbers after the new year though.
HEY new Detectives, get off your asses and stop try to solve Homicides on a computer screen.
Anonymous said...
Where are we at on the detective's list (non-merit)? 200? 250? Any word on promotions coming up?
Poor guy, he sent this shit in at 0400 hrs! Keep reaching for that rainbow snowflake, that promotion is coming. You earned it. As an oldtimer in the D, I can tell you be very careful what you wish for. Could you imagine what it must be like to work for a real police department?
Looks like the detectives have the fetal position down pat. Nice job guys and gala.
So with the current clearance rate daft to assume murder has become a sanctuary crime.
Not sure where everyone is getting the 17% clearance rate from. The clearance rate is currently 34%. The reason the clearance rates dropped so badly beginning last year is because the prior regime decimated the D like they did Patrol dwindling the number of detectives down to about 850 when historically the D has had 1300+ Detectives. If you don’t have an ample number of Detectives to work the murders, you simply aren’t going to clear the murders. You get what you pay for.
Some people aren’t built to be investigators...but, they take the spot. You never made a felony arrest? Never testified in court? Never did a report for a homicide ? CSA? You don’t like to work overtime? It takes a certain type of person to be a decent-good- excellent detective. You have to want to do this. Remember this.. a halfass patrolman will probably be a halfass detective. Just an observation.
It's just a decrease in the increase....
You are about half right at best. Not easy today, but never was. When the detectives were clearing more cases do you really believe the citizens in the community where most murders were committed, 011 and 007, were ever pro police and cooperated in the investigations. I can tell you they weren’t and they didn’t. Don’t believe this is new
Oh,you mean the time when “statements” did not have to be recorded. Funny how in a lot of those cases the main evidence was the perfect admission. One cameras started those same brilliant dics weren’t getting half of the admissions they use to get. Yep, the old school guys must have just been that good. Maybe they couldn’t get an admission on every siggle case when cameras came into play because they were nervous??? Nah, u have a brain, just think about it and think about the hundreds of millions of dollars of overturned cases. Especially ones where they confessed but fingerprint and dna proves them not guilty. I’m not a northwestern fan but some of the cases make you go hmmmmmm
OT: Two detectives from central with 3 years are on are going back to patrol. Couldn’t hack it. Don’t take someone’s spot if you can’t handle it. What a joke....
Not a problem.
All these newly minted Dicks with less than 8 years OTJ who've never worked the ghetto or called Felony Review for an upgrade will get to the bottom of it all.
Here's something fun to try the next time you interact with a "detective" on an applicable scene: ask them for the number to Felony Review or the ME's office without referring to their FLOP book.
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Are you insinuating that a "detective" isn't competent because he doesn't know a couple of phone numbers??? C'mon pal you can do better than that. Now I'm not defending these detectives, but using the FOP book to find a couple of phone numbers is hardly the measuring stick. If you would've said they didn't search or protect a crime scene correctly, or didn't know what evidence should and could have value in an investigation etc., then I would agree with you. I know great detectives that don't even know their own home number. Please come up with something better than that. I'm plenty aware of some of these detectives getting into the D Unit without the necessary qualification, but nitpicking the way you have is asenine.
Funny thing, there are a bunch of P.O.'s on here talking shit about Detectives. Specifically what they lack, how unprofessional they are, and how some of them were never the "real police". Coincidentally, these are usually the same coppers who can't pass a test and don't get made on merit. Yet they have the audacity to bash on someone who got promoted. Shame on you. If you want a merit slot, work harder or kiss someone's ass, either way you won't be here complaining about things you don't control. WTF is the "real police" anyway???? Working on the west and south side or in a fast district doesn't qualify you as better or worse in law enforcement. I know plenty of coppers that worked in "fast districts" that struggle everyday. So please spare us all the, "they don't know what they're doing because they are merit hack bullshit". BTW I've been on 18 years and just got promoted off of my test score, which I can proudly say was in the top 5% (and no, I didn't have a "copy of the test"). I worked hard and studied harder. If you don't like the situation you're in, change it, and if you don't like the job you have, then quit. Just spare us all the bitching, moaning, and complaining. This us - against them mentality within the department is terrible for morale. I don't agree with some of the decisions made by the higher ups in regard to merit promotions, but I don't let that affect my job. I do what I can to the best of my ability and let no one breach my peace. Good luck and stay safe.
Video of Florida deputy being assaulted and backup shooting perp.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article188909469.html
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Funny thing, there are a bunch of P.O.'s on here talking shit about Detectives. Specifically what they lack, how unprofessional they are, and how some of them were never the "real police". Coincidentally, these are usually the same coppers who can't pass a test and don't get made on merit. Yet they have the audacity to bash on someone who got promoted. Shame on you. If you want a merit slot, work harder or kiss someone's ass, either way you won't be here complaining about things you don't control. WTF is the "real police" anyway???? Working on the west and south side or in a fast district doesn't qualify you as better or worse in law enforcement. I know plenty of coppers that worked in "fast districts" that struggle everyday. So please spare us all the, "they don't know what they're doing because they are merit hack bullshit". BTW I've been on 18 years and just got promoted off of my test score, which I can proudly say was in the top 5% (and no, I didn't have a "copy of the test"). I worked hard and studied harder. If you don't like the situation you're in, change it, and if you don't like the job you have, then quit. Just spare us all the bitching, moaning, and complaining. This us - against them mentality within the department is terrible for morale. I don't agree with some of the decisions made by the higher ups in regard to merit promotions, but I don't let that affect my job. I do what I can to the best of my ability and let no one breach my peace. Good luck and stay safe.
This post is on point. Officers talking trash about detectives, as if they wasn’t allowed to take the same test. How can an officer talk about how incompetent a detective is without looking in the mirror and trying to figure out why they haven’t been promoted? Here them tell it, they know how it’s done, yet they didn’t rank high enough to get promoted. They’re so knowledable, yet they’re crying over the same merit promotion that they claim is a hack.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You are about half right at best. Not easy today, but never was. When the detectives were clearing more cases do you really believe the citizens in the community where most murders were committed, 011 and 007, were ever pro police and cooperated in the investigations. I can tell you they weren’t and they didn’t. Don’t believe this is new
Oh,you mean the time when “statements” did not have to be recorded. Funny how in a lot of those cases the main evidence was the perfect admission. One cameras started those same brilliant dics weren’t getting half of the admissions they use to get. Yep, the old school guys must have just been that good. Maybe they couldn’t get an admission on every siggle case when cameras came into play because they were nervous??? Nah, u have a brain, just think about it and think about the hundreds of millions of dollars of overturned cases. Especially ones where they confessed but fingerprint and dna proves them not guilty. I’m not a northwestern fan but some of the cases make you go hmmmmmm
12/12/2017 12:23:00 AM
As soon as the cameras came the old school guys started fleeing and hiding in the inside. They found out they had to put some real skills to work. Buying White Castles and cigarettes in exchange for a murder confess has ended.
The clearance stats need to be adjusted since the rules have been adjusted. Witnesses can leave at any time....the list of offenses that need ERI has increased....one on one testimony is no longer enough, you need video...evidence...more and more witnesses and even more video.
Comparing the clearance stats to the old days before ERI just doesn't make any sense.
The main speed bump these days is the inability to hold onto witnesses.
They know the rules, they know they can't be held.
Bye bye charges.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not a problem.
All these newly minted Dicks with less than 8 years OTJ who've never worked the ghetto or called Felony Review for an upgrade will get to the bottom of it all.
Here's something fun to try the next time you interact with a "detective" on an applicable scene: ask them for the number to Felony Review or the ME's office without referring to their FLOP book.
Why do you have to ask someone else for those numbers? That would make you look stupid.
Why even have Detectives anymore? Just have a few in each District, and a Felony Review ASA. Have District Personnel follow up info. On offenders whereabouts. Clearence Rate probably would not drop much lower anyway.
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