Listen Here Snowflake
The entitled thinking they're better than lowly ol' you:
- OT- So there was a shooting in 007 and the female detective that showed up gets all bent out of shape because the sergeant told the paper car to go into 007 to do the report because the Area said the detectives were going to the hospital first. This female det gets on the scene and starts yellling and screaming at the officers that were on the crime scene. The Sgt comes back on the scene after having to respond to another job and gives it to the female detective about her yelling at the officers. The poor female detective calls her Lt who then calls the 007th district Lt to find out why the detective got yelled at. Really??? What are we in grade school now?? Someone’s feelings got hurt so she has to cry about it?? No wonder we are in the state we are in.
Speechless.
Labels: from the comments, un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
147 Comments:
Let me guess Meritorious???
Where the fuck does a detective get off yelling at p.o.'s about the decision of a sergeant ?
Crazy town.
She should go on medical for a case of butt hurt
Reminder Detective is not a rank to bark out orders. Next time just them go Fuck yourself and walk away like I have done in the pass. Never let them ever talk down to you.
Get some time on the job before you start something
Too many detectives talk to fellow officers like they're pieces of shit. It's sad that when you get a friendly one on scene or picking up the phone you're actually surprised.
Did the officers’ feelings get hurt when the detective scolded them? So they had to cry to their SGT? Man up people!
Cry babies, dics think they are abpve sgts.
CLOWNS
The Sgt had every right to step off in the detective ass.
Not enough info in the original post l... ...in the years of working here, cops f**k up crime scenes all the time.
Just listening to this BS tells me CPD is totally rudderless.
People have been promoted too much and there is NO leadership, just a bunch of Yes-men and minions.
Heaven help Chicago and its people if some big-time event happens.
My Dearest Fellow Copper, the petty bullshit behavior will not only be the norm expect other Coppers to toss your ass under the bus cuz they were scared to simply employ the bloody English Language and help out instead of fuckin over another Cop.
I was in a R/C once and these two Coppers were Partners for ever. They both were KMA. Some petty non sense erupted and one Partner was living outside The City. The Copper living outside The City needed 25 years on and he happened to have like 22/23 years otj.
His very own partnered dimed him out and he was stuck resigning.
We do this to each other! It has to stop. U take unbelievable BULLSHIT from your Commrads in arms and doing what ya can to make sure The City remains in a preservation of chaos. Meanwhile your very own backstabbing colleague can sneak up and stick one in your ass.
I'm supposed to make sure you don't get hurt or die and you(not all)have the utter balls to forget who your backup is.
When it's time to bring the lawyers, guns, and money cuz the shit has hit the fan that same douche bag will be expected your help pronto. Boom! That same Jerky just stuck it up your ass again.
Lets be very clear, as a PO no one is qualified to yell at us no matter what we do. That goes for detectives all the way up to superintendent. Just reply "What did I do wrong, Im confused? Repeat this several times with a bewildered look on your face.
wait.. did Nakia Fenner make detective?
That isn’t as bad as Gang Enforcement North. Two male cops get into a pushing match. No one is hurt. One of the cops files a CR against the cop and then files a Battery report. The same soft cop files another CR against a different cop for calling him names. To add more problems that copper tells IAD everyone shows up late to work and leaves early. Further claims cops are drunk and drinking in the office. Meanwhile that cop as been involved some interesting shootings and has a drinking problem. What ever happen to boys being boys?
Pathetic. It’s a new department. And we wonder why the clearance rate is so low, wonder no more
First mistake, in most cases Lead Detectives should go to the scene first to process it and to release manpower back to patrol as soon as possible. If officers are sitting with the individual at the hospital there’s no rush to get there. Patients has to be triaged, examined and evaluated. The Patients has to be seen by the RN, Resident and then the Attending Physician.
I wonder if she was meritorious?
Why would the Sgt release the paper care prior to the arrival of the Lead Detective. Doesn’t the order say the paper car should do a walk through with the Lead Detective and E/T. Sgt. should’ve ENSURED that a detective was coming to the scene first. Whenever there’s a shooting, Detectives work in teams. It’s called a Shooting Team. Some Detectives go to the hospital and some arrive at the crime scene. I bet that was all one big misunderstanding. A good Lead Detective will always go to the scene first to meet with the paper car. Hopefully the paper car is still at the scene and hopefully the detective isn’t taken his or her sweet time. Det’s investigation is centered around the intital report.
Can we start a go fund me page for 018 day crew who ordered from Jimmies hotdogs. They ordered $120 in food they charged the copper who picked it up $60. Guess when he got back to 018 told them he was charged $60 someone from 018 called Jimmies and asked what’s going on you charged us $60. Have to love cheap jag offs
Gee, none of this happens on Chicago P.D.
Whatever.
I come here for health insurance.
This has no bearing on the cost of said insurance.
If it goes up over 2%, I stay til 60 spreading sunshine.
Shooting in 007 = 19p.
No crime scene = no hurt feelings.
No beer and no tv make Jack a dull boy.
About the 2:35 comments. Just trying to understand, was the cop wrong for filing a CR again bulling cops, or calling out possible drinking on job. Or maybe he is expected to ignore bad or illegal behavior by one on "the job". Sounds like one filing CR has balls enough to ignore the Code of Silence. Hope that's the case and CR get fully investigated and prosecuted to fullest extent. Need to get rid of bad actors no matter their rank or affiliations.
To 1:38. So your advocating breaking the rules and punishing those who call you out. You swore an oath to obey the laws. Or is it only the laws that you don't like. To the c living out of city he got what he deserves. He rolled the dice and lost. I'd chalk that one up to good Karma. Just because someone chooses to put on a badge dose not exempt them form adhering to rules laid out when you accepted job. Your post is why citizens believe that the Code of Silence is very active and real. Maybe its time for you to rethink your employment opportunities. You sound like someone who is totally burned out on current job. Sorry to be so blunt but sometimes the truth hurts.
Everyone needs to step back, take in a big breath of air, and look at the big picture. It’s a fucking shooting in 007. Who gives a fuck about JO that got shot who will eventually become an offender the next day.
Back when I used to make felony arrests (been awhile now) the thing I dreaded most was dealing with the detectives. It was a rare occurrence when a detective actually pretended to care and actually talked to you like an adult. The arrogance was absolutely brutal. Dealing with the area was worse than dealing with the offender.
No social media for you, no both of you. no just you, no all of you. That will fix things right Hooks?
Paper car is suppose to stay on scene so if theres questions they are there to answer them. Reports can be done on the pdt and any notification or phone calls can be done from the car. Maybe it was a merit sgt. that was wrong not the detective. Glad im retired too many cry babies coming on this job.
First mistake, in most cases Lead Detectives should go to the scene first to process it and to release manpower back to patrol as soon as possible. If officers are sitting with the individual at the hospital there’s no rush to get there. Patients has to be triaged, examined and evaluated. The Patients has to be seen by the RN, Resident and then the Attending Physician.
tell us more columbo. you sound like one of the 5yr wonders that passed the dics test and now you think you know everything. or... one could argue the scene is the scene.. its secure and not going anywhere. maybe the dic wanted to talk to the vic before he is intibated, wheeled into surgery, expires, or is otherwise rendered unable to communicate. why would we want to waste manoower sitting at a hospital with a VICTIM?
of course thats assuming dude didnt just hear shots feel pain
Its the new CPD boys. The sentamental side. Watch your asses, the young ones were given everything by their parents and will not listen or respect age and experience. Be careful out there. The ones you may trust might be the enemies from within our own ranks.
Nobody and I mean nobody has the right to scream at you. However, as a former Detective and a former street and Detective supervisor THERE CAN be two sides to this story.
If the “victim” has serious gsw’s It may be smart to hit the hospital right away before he goes into surgery which may mean he’s unavailable for interview for several hours. Ideally there would be Detectives dispatched immediately to the scene and to the hospital. But The DD is short just like everybody else. Regardless no one should be showing up on the scene yelling at anyone. Act appropriately grow the fuck up. Get in your Detective car call the station or cell phone of the beat guys and get the information you need. People need to stop making this job harder then it is. Sounds like Miss Detective wasn’t happy about being assigned a job and tried to take it out on everyone she encountered. Boo fucking boo, do your job.
12/09/2017 02:35:00 AM
What the fuck is wrong with that guy? Officers work very hard. So they deserve to not work those grueling 8 hour days.
Maybe she was just having a bad night. Who knows what's going on in her life. Givver a break and move on. Way too many egos at work so it seems.
There’s absolutely nothing, NOTHING on this job that will make me yell at another officer on this job. I stopped caring a long time ago.
"Reminder Detective is not a rank to bark out orders. Next time just them go Fuck yourself and walk away like I have done in the pass. Never let them ever talk down to you"
EXACTLY! Retired. But when otj, I was always amazed at how many PO's believed Dets could order them around. No, they fuckin CAN'T! When it all shakes out, their fuckin shirt is BLUE!!!
No chevrons...No bars...No birds, leaves or stars.
I used to hate watching cop shows. Because they would always show Dets, arrive in the scene, and immediately start throwing orders at PO's, and sometimes scolding them. FUCK THAT!!!
Never happened to me. I dam sure wouldn't stood for it, had one of them tried.
Another example of Ole Skool Coppers vs New Day Police, I guess.
Welcome to the SNOWFLAKE generation.
let's get this right ... the Sgt. would never even have known about this but the cops on scene made a phone call to him crying that they were yelled at by the det.? that about right?
"smart enough" to pass a promotional exam...
It's not a promotional exam because it's not a promotion. Detective is an assignment, not a rank. They are police officers like you, just assigned to detective. If you act like their subordinate they will treat you as such.
Most do not understand that a det is responsible for the case all the way to adjudication in court. It’s their ass, so yes, they are “in charge” at a scene they are responsible for. Not a rank, but all GOs state that; maintain scene until the lowly detective releases it. That said, there are better ways to talk to your coworkers than yelling about perceived mistakes and or real errors. If evidence has been destroyed, that has to be explained. Once you lose the scene, it never comes back.
There's something missing in this story. So the paper car is in the station because the
Area desk said dics were going to the hospital. A lone dic shows up at the scene and something caused her to be upset. Was the crime scene not protected? Lone dic asks group of P/O's with their hands in their vests, standing around. Your by yourself and you talk to people at the scene and no one knows whats going on. Been there.
Merit wonder? Definitely an ignorant entitled dic
Years ago I worked the lockup and some Detective came in trying to tell me what to do. I told him to get the fuck out of my lockup "Officer" that he wasn't a supervisor just a Detective. He took issue with being called "Officer" and said he was a "Detective" I told him his uniform shirt is blue just like mine "Officer". I also told him if he wants to come into my lockup to get permission from the W/C as the GO stated that anyone going into my lockup has to have permission from the W/C. He looked at me with a stupid look on his face and left.
I kept saying "my Lockup" just to piss him off. Moreover, if you want to piss off a Detective or just have fun, call him/her "Officer".
That being said, most Detectives are great people that will bend over backwards to help out a copper.
As was stated above, probably some missing info. There may be the usual misogyny showing here. And the comment about the duties of the lead detective is correct.
I loved those old area 5 D guys. Sgt. Bicycle was the best! Those were detectives. They worked with you. A lot of talent retired from the D unit... and it shows.
If everyone involved just took a step back and talked to each other like a professional law enforcement officer the outcome
would be much better, especially in the future when all involved start to play the stupid game again every time they are
involved in any future job or situation with each other. Nothing good will come of this now or anytime in the future. We better start to realize that we only have each other no one else really cares.
Nah-nana-nah-nah.
I’m telling mom.
Who really gives a flying-fvck about a ghetto shooting enough to become unhinged at the scene or anywhere for that matter?
One shooting in all of 007?
Crime of the century in the Englewoods?
C’mon man.
This case could probably have been handled by the Area, over the phone, believe me.
Had to be a green Detective, someone who either never worked a ghetto District or hasn’t worked the street in a long, long, long time.
Tape up, evidence if any collected, tape down, get names and numbers, victim doe no nuttin, heard shots felt pain, not cooperating
Seems simple right?
Yelling at a P.O. over a feral ghetto shootin’.
It just don’t make no kinda sense.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Did the officers’ feelings get hurt when the detective scolded them? So they had to cry to their SGT? Man up people!
12/09/2017 12:50:00 AM
Man up???
They should’ve told the DICK to straight up go fuck herself!!
Kudos to the Sgt!
Well, what do you expect when you only promote clout babies that get the answers to the test? No real police need apply.
Some detectives really think that they outrank and can tell Pop's what to do. This is nothi by new, especially with dicks that have a little time on the job. As far as the Sgt., their job is to supervise. As a Sgt. From an outside unit I have had my share of ruins with officers who said I wasno t their Supervisor. Well I would always need to esta mish the line right away and they usually understood where I was comi ng from.
Wow, I thought we we're adults here.
With over 28 yrs on and a Supervisor for 20 of them I can tell you the quality of both Detectives and officers has downgraded quite a bit....as well as supervisors....
I don't feel loved unless some Jackwagon is yelling at me.
Too many citizens and actual police confuse Entertainment with Reality. Detectives are Patrol Officers, not bosses. It was not until Le Roy Martin that they even got different stars. And every time there was a New Chief of Detectives, the next day there were a bunch of old time detectives wearing blue at a District Roll Call. The Rank is now assured by contract, but the reality is that you are not a boss, just a higher ranking patrol officer; deal with it! And remember, there was a time when Detectives were respected by patrol officers. The Detectives that were drunks or unable to spell were left back at the office. Today, with so many young Merit Hacks being made detectives, it is difficult to tell who is really competent. And finally, Nobody needs to be yelling at another copper, especially in an age where if you talked that way to a citizen you would be suspended. The Sergeant did a good job by protecting his officers. When I was a Sergeant, Nobody would yell at my officers, including my bosses. You have to respect each other, before anyone else will respect you. Don't let the Negativity all around you, become a part of YOU. Baby "G"
Better guess. Front office, commanders office, CAPS , or bosses secretary at headquarters. Gets made detective and now is going to be the real police
No way a detective who had worked in patrol on the street would talk to a beat man like that. If she was on the street she would know how it’s done and as a retired detective, the district beat guys are your best asset. You want them on your side
She should be banned from watching Blue Bloods. The Danny Regan effect has got hold of her, a worse demon than boogie woogie
Sounds like we are missing some of the story here!!!
Lead detectives always go to the scene first. GO calls for paper car to stay on scene.
But who the fuck cares? First off, coppers were babies for crying to Sgt instead of just telling Detective to "suck it".
Then detective was a baby for going to their boss.
Sounds like everyone in this story is a little bitch.
sounds like business as usual for the detective division
Not the first time she has cried. Not well liked at the area. She has a high opinion of herself for no reason.
As a Detective for over 10 years I unfortunately have seen this before from some of my fellow Detectives. They seem to forget that our title code is PO assigned as Detective. Not all of us or even the majority are like that. I look at my job now as one of a support unit to the street Officer. My job is to help you. Some people can get too full of themselves.
The Detectives who display this behavior are usually the ones who are incompetent at their job. They don't know what they are doing so they lash out. We know who they are but most of the time there is little we can do about it. They are usually merit and/or have some type of clout. We could get rid of probably 15 percent of the dead weight in the D-unit and no one would notice. Actually most of us would be grateful. These incompetents get assigned a job, screw it up, then its reassigned to one of us to fix.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
First mistake, in most cases Lead Detectives should go to the scene first to process it and to release manpower back to patrol as soon as possible. If officers are sitting with the individual at the hospital there’s no rush to get there. Patients has to be triaged, examined and evaluated. The Patients has to be seen by the RN, Resident and then the Attending Physician.
12/09/2017 04:06:00 AM
You are spot on. Get to the scene first before evidence and witnesses disappear. The victim at the hospital can wait for a bit. They are with the Officers and getting treated anyways.
To add more problems that copper tells IAD everyone shows up late to work and leaves ea
Meh, IAD. What are you worried about? They couldn’t even catch cheaters using department email to pass answers to promotional tests around.
I'm just fucking speechless--retired and old A/4 Detective
High school with guns.
To the unpublished DEBBIE DOWNER:
We'll spare you the ridicule. It wasn't a police shooting. Apples and oranges.
Everyone know who is supposed to run a police shooting scene.
This wasn't.
I was the paper car at the scene of the shooting recently. Pompous (male) dick starts barking orders at the evidence tech. ET tells him " I don't know who the fuck you think you're talking to son. I was working the west side before you had short curlies on your vagina, I know what's evidence and what's not evidence at a ghetto shooting."" ET then flat out refused to recover or inventory a few things the detective wanted that ET knew were of no value. Told the detective " if you want these things inventoried so bad, pick them up in inventory them yourself. Otherwise that shit ain't happening". I think the detective might've been confused because this ET looks young but he has over 25 years on the job. Me & my partner laughed about it the rest of the night
Maybe she was just having a bad night. Who knows what's going on in her life. Givver a break and move on. Way too many egos at work so it seems.
12/09/2017 08:12:00 AM
Oh ok snowflake. Just like every other liberal, do whatever you want, say whatever you want right or wrong. Then of course apologize days later. How about you snowflake liberals learning how to act like adults in the first place.
Why didn't one detective go to the scene and one to the hospital. We always did that when we had an investigation. If beat officer is going to hospital notify the dicks. This way everyone is informed.
I will say though that at a crime scene the detective is the boss. If a commander says something that may interfere with the investigation or hurt evidence then the d unit and d unit supervisors are still in charge and has the final call. So In any case, if a det wants a Sgt LT commander etc out of a crime scene then they get out. Anytime I’m guarding a crime scene and get an order regarding evidence from a clown whiteshirt I do nothing until I run it past a detective who is conducting the investigation. Might not be popular but it’s the truth.
Can you really rely on many of the sgts on this job this day and age to make a correct decision?? Too many young sgts who have it all figured out and want to make decisions when they know nothing, especially if they have never been a detective. I don’t support yelling at a PO at all , but I do support the detectives being able to be in charge of a scene.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"smart enough" to pass a promotional exam...
It's not a promotional exam because it's not a promotion. Detective is an assignment, not a rank. They are police officers like you, just assigned to detective. If you act like their subordinate they will treat you as such.
12/09/2017 09:06:00 AM
You're splitting hairs.
Sure, the title is "PATROLMAN assigned as Detective", which indeed means we are still just "patrolman". That said, everyone that "made" detective had to take an exam to do so (of course we won't kid ourselves and say that everyone actually PASSED this test). And as a result, we make more money than any patrolman with the same seniority date. At the end of the day, this shakes out to be a PROMOTION, sonny boy.
So while it may not fit the Merriam Webster dictionary definition for "promotion", at the end of the day we detectives are better than you stupid blue shirts. Many of you need to be talked down to because you're too goddamn self absorbed and entitled. And that combination fucks up my crime scenes. And fucked up crime scenes have the potential to reflect badly on me. If I'm going to fuck something up, I want to be the one at the switches, not some grunt that can't focus on something so simple as protecting a crime scene.
Now go cry to your sergeant about how the big, bad Detective hurt your feelings on the blog.
I think the sergeant and the officers need to review their general orders. The paper car is suppose to stay on scene and speak with the detectives. And the detective needs to remember where she came from. We are all on the same side boys and girls.
onymous said...
Maybe she was just having a bad night. Who knows what's going on in her life. Givver a break and move on. Way too many egos at work so it seems.
12/09/2017 08:12:00 AM
Or maybe she has a bad night because she had to go on the street and do her job. No CMO or desk that night and 4 hr days
"Not the first time she has cried. Not well liked at the area. She has a high opinion of herself for no reason."
oh you mean the mericloutorius SF who hails from rahm's detail and was nominated for merit-detective by melissa staples herself?
shocking.
she had a meltdown earlier this year at the area before crying her way from midnights to days. funny how that worked out.
Old retired detective here. When I became a detective in 1969 an old describe told me. Never yell or tell the beat man anything Ask and you will get better results. Followed his advice and for over 30 years never had a problem with any P.O. and I always remember where we all started. To me all a detective was was a P.O. working a different assignment
Anonymous said...
Can we start a go fund me page for 018 day crew who ordered from Jimmies hotdogs. They ordered $120 in food they charged the copper who picked it up $60. Guess when he got back to 018 told them he was charged $60 someone from 018 called Jimmies and asked what’s going on you charged us $60. Have to love cheap jag offs
12/09/2017 04:27:00 AM
It was a cheap, simple-minded, low-life m/fer who called
to bitch about being charged half on the actual bill...
Anonymous said...
Its the new CPD boys. The sentamental side. Watch your asses, the young ones were given everything by their parents and will not listen or respect age and experience. Be careful out there. The ones you may trust might be the enemies from within our own ranks.
12/09/2017 07:38:00 AM
This person that wrote this is right boys and girls, watch ur six and all the way around because the department is infiltrating many undercover ppo's into the ranks. Fucken upper echelon civilian bosses want as many older coppers to be stripped, so no pay out (PENSION)and all the goodies that go with that. COPA is full steam ahead boys and girls......
Did anyone at scene suggest a time out for the two?
i may be dating myself but the old area 3 (39th & California) were great detectives and even better people!
we lost a lot of talent when they closed that area
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Old retired detective here. When I became a detective in 1969 an old describe told me. Never yell or tell the beat man anything Ask and you will get better results. Followed his advice and for over 30 years never had a problem with any P.O. and I always remember where we all started. To me all a detective was was a P.O. working a different assignment.
Great advice, but follow my advice and move on in life. Do it for your own sanity.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I was the paper car at the scene of the shooting recently. Pompous (male) dick starts barking orders at the evidence tech. ET tells him " I don't know who the fuck you think you're talking to son. I was working the west side before you had short curlies on your vagina, I know what's evidence and what's not evidence at a ghetto shooting."" ET then flat out refused to recover or inventory a few things the detective wanted that ET knew were of no value. Told the detective " if you want these things inventoried so bad, pick them up in inventory them yourself. Otherwise that shit ain't happening". I think the detective might've been confused because this ET looks young but he has over 25 years on the job. Me & my partner laughed about it the rest of the night
If that detective wanted to he could’ve had that E/T’s written up and he should have. Most E/T’s are knowledgeable so we allow them to recover what they feel is necessary. But some have gotten beside themselves. E/Ts are not investigators. They have no idea what information the investigating detective have received or what’s critical to the investigation. The orders says if the scene is disturbed notify the DETECTIVE, if an officer recovers property prior to the arrival of the detective, notify the DETECTIVE. The scene belongs to the detective. The patrol sergeant is only in charge of the scene protection.
Hate to say it, boys and girls... but fact is when detective arrives on scene, he/she is the ranking officer... It is their crime scene. They are responsible for everything pertaining to the investigation.... That being said, one of the first thing asked of first officers on scene what have you touched or disturbed. Experience has shown first on scene conducting preliminary investigation officers forget what was touched or just lye.. I can remember one very high profile case when officers were directly asked, did you go look in victim's purse. answer "no: when wagon men were removing victim's body, they were told "don't touch the vehicle", when lifting victim up wagon man's hand braced himself on car. When prints came back from purse and contains of wallet, preliminary officers' prints all over. But still, Detective has no right to verbally assault other officers... proper procedure would to point out mistakes made and officers should use it as a learning experience.
-Someone should’ve got into the sgt’s ass for allowing the paper car to leave the scene. The order says after the detective confers with the patrol sergeant, the paper car, detective and E/T will.... The Sgt should’ve called the Area and clarified if a detective was in enroute to the scene. Why didn’t the Sgt yell at the Area Supervisor when he thought the detective was responding to the hospital first?
-Why would the Sgt send the paper car into the station to start paperwork when the scene hadn’t been processed. Oh, I forgot these Sgts dont Like to stay late and heaven help us if they have to miss check off.
Sergeants fuck up more crime scenes than you can imagine.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
That isn’t as bad as Gang Enforcement North. Two male cops get into a pushing match. No one is hurt. One of the cops files a CR against the cop and then files a Battery report. The same soft cop files another CR against a different cop for calling him names. To add more problems that copper tells IAD everyone shows up late to work and leaves early. Further claims cops are drunk and drinking in the office. Meanwhile that cop as been involved some interesting shootings and has a drinking problem. What ever happen to boys being boys?
Gang Enforcement North should be disbanded anyhow. I never knew it existed. That’s why we have tact teams. Each of you drunks should be dumped back to beat cars or fixed cta posts. This damn department!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
First mistake, in most cases Lead Detectives should go to the scene first to process it and to release manpower back to patrol as soon as possible. If officers are sitting with the individual at the hospital there’s no rush to get there. Patients has to be triaged, examined and evaluated. The Patients has to be seen by the RN, Resident and then the Attending Physician.
To: tell us more columbo. you sound like one of the 5yr wonders that passed the dics test and now you think you know everything. or... one could argue the scene is the scene.. its secure and not going anywhere. maybe the dic wanted to talk to the vic before he is intibated, wheeled into surgery, expires, or is otherwise rendered unable to communicate. why would we want to waste manoower sitting at a hospital with a VICTIM? of course thats assuming dude didnt just hear shots feel pain
..and you wonder why you’ll never be promoted. The longer the crime scene is up the more evidence is lost or contaminated due to the elements. Wise guy! The lead detective don’t have to talk to the victim first when he has detectives from his team enroute to the hospital to interview the victim. No more Chicago PD for you.
I think the sergeant and the officers need to review their general orders. The paper car is suppose to stay on scene and speak with the detectives. And the detective needs to remember where she came from. We are all on the same side boys and girls.
Maybe you need to read the story dummy. It said the detectives said they were going to the hospital and not going to the scene first so the Sgt sent the paper car into 007 to start the paper. How long is the paper car supposed to stay and wait??
Anonymous said...
If the “victim” has serious gsw’s It may be smart to hit the hospital right away before he goes into surgery which may mean he’s unavailable for interview for several hours. Ideally there would be Detectives dispatched immediately to the scene and to the hospital. But The DD is short just like everybody else. Regardless no one should be showing up on the scene yelling at anyone. Act appropriately grow the fuck up. Get in your Detective car call the station or cell phone of the beat guys and get the information you need. People need to stop making this job harder then it is. Sounds like Miss Detective wasn’t happy about being assigned a job and tried to take it out on everyone she encountered. Boo fucking boo, do your job.
The DD isn’t that short they can always pull from other sections. There’s hardly ever a time when detectives goes to a shooting alone unless he or she wants too. Officer Safety first!
About the 2:35 comments. Just trying to understand, was the cop wrong for filing a CR again bulling cops, or calling out possible drinking on job. Or maybe he is expected to ignore bad or illegal behavior by one on "the job".
If you work a gang unit and are intimated by 'co-workers who bully" than you are in the wrong business.
Detective here, I handled a death investigation two days ago. When I pulled up the paper guy was sitting in his patrol car. When I got out he said, the body is upstairs in the building. I went upstairs alone and then came the E/T. We collected all of the evidence and found the deceased identification. When I came down the papar guy who was still sitting in his patrol car yelled “did you find his I.D.” I jumped into my unmarked and drove off. Have fun turning in a blank report in lazy ass. Moral of the story is paper car needs to accompany the detective into the crime scene.
Why would a sergeant send the paper car into the station, prior to the arrival of the detective? If an arrest is made the paper guy will also have to testify in the case. It’s a great idea to keep the paper car at the scene so that he or she can see things through. At least until he talks to the detective.
First off the Sgt is a goof. Should never write the paper without checking with the Detective, things change quickly. Detective was a crybaby. But let’s not forget, there are a ton of goof Sgt s out there who couldn’t tie their shoes without help. Don’t confuse your rank with my authority.
“Did the officers’ feelings get hurt when the detective scolded them? So they had to cry to their SGT? Man up people!
12/09/2017 12:50:00 AM”
You’re either the Detective in question, her squeeze, or someone who’s enamored with her. Listen Asshole, the Detectives are a support unit for Patrol, any Detective with half a brain knows that, and it behooves them to act Professionally. The Patrol Officers have enough to deal with let alone some ahole yelling. The Area Lieutenant is a POS as well and should’ve let the Detective cool her heels and remind her to not act like a stone jag when she’s on a crime scene.
“let's get this right ... the Sgt. would never even have known about this but the cops on scene made a phone call to him crying that they were yelled at by the det.? that about right?
Let’s get this right, the Area Lt. never would’ve known about it if the butthurt Detective didn’t go crying to him/her?
The Area Lt. makes a bitch move and calls the Lt. in 007?
Don’t have any problem with the Officers notifiying their Sgt. who in turn backed his Officers good on him.
She was in the wrong end of story.
In the meanwhile,The Detective, the Area Lt, and you, can GFYourselves.
“So while it may not fit the Merriam Webster dictionary definition for "promotion", at the end of the day we detectives are better than you stupid blue shirts. Many of you need to be talked down to because you're too goddamn self absorbed and entitled. And that combination fucks up my crime scenes. And fucked up crime scenes have the potential to reflect badly on me. If I'm going to fuck something up, I want to be the one at the switches, not some grunt that can't focus on something so simple as protecting a crime scene.
Now go cry to your sergeant about how the big, bad Detective hurt your feelings on the blog.”
Well lookie here, some self centered sanctimonious SOB in a rayon shirt& tie, genuine G-Ds gift to the CPD.
Do us a favor and tell us what area you work out of Superstar? It’s Game On shit talking, MF’r ,!!
I had a detective try that with me one time at a shooting. I had around 5 years on at the time. He start raising his voice about the canvass and I told him to go fuck himself and when he is ready to talk I'll be here. My sgt at the time told me he was glad I stood up for myself as he seen way too many coppers take unnecessary shot from defectives. He even added further advice that in the future if somebody who outranks me yells at me to just say "I don't have to listen to this" and walk away. Funny thing is, the week after I see the same fat defective working special employment in the same room, wearing the same uniform as me. Needless to say, he didn't say a word to me but when we were getting our radios, I went next to him and sarcastically said "it's my favorite detective in the whole world" and was laughing really loud. He had a miserable look on his face and I never really seen him again.
Anonymous said...
I will say though that at a crime scene the detective is the boss. If a commander says something that may interfere with the investigation or hurt evidence then the d unit and d unit supervisors are still in charge and has the final call. So In any case, if a det wants a Sgt LT commander etc out of a crime scene then they get out. Anytime I’m guarding a crime scene and get an order regarding evidence from a clown whiteshirt I do nothing until I run it past a detective who is conducting the investigation. Might not be popular but it’s the truth.
This has never happened once in real life. Maybe on NYPD Blue or whatever is the latest BS cop show that you watch.
-Barney Miller
Sounds like cry babies on both ends. I know I've heard the stay fetal comments but that doesn't mean to literally act like babies. Everybody needs to grow some thicker skin.
Sounds like miscommunication. But yelling at P.Os is terrible, never solves anything.
she had a meltdown earlier this year at the area before crying her way from midnights to days. funny how that worked out.
Where have I heard that before. About a few hundred times on the CPD Those tears always work and the derserving guys still get stuck on midnights
I Fart In Your General Direction said...
I'd tell her to go fuck herself if she tried pulling that shit with me.
And I don't care who was present at the time: coworkers, supervisors, the 'communerty', the media etcetera.
Post this assholes name, please. She needs to be sent things via police mail to remind her that the world doesn't revolve around her. Something tells me she's hovering between 9 and 11 year on the job - "smart enough" to pass a promotional exam but not smart enough to know when to keep her big fuckin' mouth shut and act like an adult.
Entitlement... just another facet of why this job is a dead end.
12/09/2017 01:08:00 I might exercise some caution in this day and age, especially around females, whom I would tell to go f*** off. They are quick to bring lawsuits. She could bring a lawsuit for hostile work environment if you decided to tell her to f*** off. It is a sad State of Affairs in the department right now. I'm glad I retired.
Frank, the owner of Jimmies red hots is a great man, he takes care of so many cngoppers everyday. So if he charges half price so what, he doesn't have to give you guys a thi
Anonymous Anonymous said...
“So while it may not fit the Merriam Webster dictionary definition for "promotion", at the end of the day we detectives are better than you stupid blue shirts. Many of you need to be talked down to because you're too goddamn self absorbed and entitled. And that combination fucks up my crime scenes. And fucked up crime scenes have the potential to reflect badly on me. If I'm going to fuck something up, I want to be the one at the switches, not some grunt that can't focus on something so simple as protecting a crime scene.
Now go cry to your sergeant about how the big, bad Detective hurt your feelings on the blog.”
I beg you to try your attitude on me.
I think the sergeant and the officers need to review their general orders. The paper car is suppose to stay on scene and speak with the detectives. And the detective needs to remember where she came from. We are all on the same side boys and girls.
12/09/2017 04:30:00 PM
Thats not in the general orders nor is the remain at the hospital until with shithead until the detective finishes his first dinner, gets coffee, combs his hair or picks up his dry cleaning.
Yelling is never the answer lets not forget, the crime scene belongs to the lead detective. If the initial responding p.o doesn't complete a walk through then shame on the responsible Sgt. If the et doesn't want to collect specific evidence at a scene as requested by a detective then shame on them.
The detective is the only person assigned to that case in its entirety. Yes patrol is the backbone of this department, yes a detectives shirt is blue, yes the p.o and sergeant are supposed to protect the scene and not from the car.
In three, five, maybe ten years from now it will be the lead detective still answering for everything that does and does not happen on this case. If a detective writes paper on what did and did not happen it's the fault of those who didn't know their job, didn't want to do their job or just refused to doo their non. Ask that lieutenant from area five that was dumped and received disciplinary action for not doing what the detective asked to be done and the det documented it in the reports. Big case, Sgt s moved too.
Let's all remember it's the victim and the search for the truth that should guide us on what we do and don't do. That's why we are here. So pull up your big boy pants and treat each other like professionals even if we have to be told something from someone we don't know or like. Sometimes there is something to be learned.
Stop playing words with friends on a crime scene. Check your Facebook later. Quit bragging on face book to your friends to watch the ten o clock news because your on a crime scene with your baseball cap on backwards and you think you might be on camera.
Listen and learn you might be a detective some day and have to process a crime scene yourself and that's the day you will try and remember how the smartest and most professional detective acted, even if he/she gave you directions you didn't want to follow. You won't remember your drinking (det)buddies stories because you know he was a goof. You will remember that detective who forwarded a true conviction. Hell you probably begged that detective for his paper so your sergeant could copy cut and paste his reports for a department commendation, due to the acts the detective documented that did and did not take place.
Everyone remember detectives are still blue shirts. Just a little more pay. You do NOT need to tolerate or take any yelling from anyone. especially in public and unprofessionally.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
“Did the officers’ feelings get hurt when the detective scolded them? So they had to cry to their SGT? Man up people!
Since when does a detective scold them? That is bullshit. If she wanted to discuss something or talk to them, that’s different
Man up? If they told her to go fuck herself they would just jam themselves up. More crying and the “bosses” give in. We see it all the time
Maybe you need to read the story dummy. It said the detectives said they were going to the hospital and not going to the scene first so the Sgt sent the paper car into 007 to start the paper. How long is the paper car supposed to stay and wait??
For as long as it takes! WTF? Do you know how many times a detective shows up at a crime scene and nobody knows anything??? You get the “I don’t know. I’m not the paper.” These sergeants are sending POs home or to lunch and leaving the detectives to backtrack. Listen, I get it. I’ve been on both sides of the fence. But until you’ve had to do a violent scene report as a detective, you might not understand why letting the paper car leave the scene and have to be tracked down doesn’t work.
UNFRICKIN BELIEVABLE , YEP its time to go , Rather work Security Now
I have never yelled at anyone in my crime scenes, saying that though I've had crime scenes not protected. Crime scenes where all district personnel have returned back to patrol duties. Scenes where tact teams have scooped up witnesses and tainted possible identifications by showing IClear photos instead of conducting photo arrays. Scenes where sgts are more worried about clearing their cars before a scene is processed completely.
Now back to not yelling, why because? No need to. I just document how everything occurred on the scene, P.O. failed to perform a duty per G.O. gets documented. I've also experienced several lazy ET's who complain about recovering evidence, no yelling. I document that said evidence was REQUESTED be processed and recovered and said ET refused. Sgt orders his cars to clear from the crime scene, that also gets documented per Sgt XXXX he/she ordered such and such beat cars to clear the scene. No need to yell at anyone or get into a pissing match.
Now to all the Detective haters on this blog, while its not a rank it is a promotion. While our 9165 states P.O. Assigned as Detective was probably made up from some detective hater in R&D several years ago. See officers are assigned to OCD, Gang Teams, Tact, Teams, Marine Unit, Mounted Unit, etc.
Detectives, Evidence Technicians, K-9, and FTO's are all a promotions even though the title is still P.O. See for those position officers have to take a PROMOTIONAL EXAM, pass the exam, and get placed on a promotional list based on score. See no assignment to any of those positions.
If officers were ASSSIGNED as stated, then by theory the Superintendent could make any officer a ET, Detective, K-9, or FTO whenever he/she fells like it and there would be no need for PROMOTIONAL EXAMS OR LISTS.They could say, okay Officer X tomorrow report to Area Central Detective Division I'm assigning you to Dectective immediately., they can't.
Look at any other major police department in the USA and you will see Chicago Police Dectectives are so undecompensated and disrespected by their department and I think it needs to change.
Everyone stop with this Det vs P.O. nonsense. It’s her. Everyone around her knows she is a complete goof.
The problem is nobody will take her aside and politely counsel her on how to do her job because her crazy ass will take it the wrong way.
She is buddy buddy with rham’s wife and sure to rise. I wouldn’t want to make enemies with that
Just ignore her and walk away
If detectives can tell po’s what to do, then why is it they can work the same overtime that the po’s can? That doesn’t seem fair or equal.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hate to say it, boys and girls... but fact is when detective arrives on scene, he/she is the ranking officer... It is their crime scene. They are responsible for everything pertaining to the investigation.... That being said, one of the first thing asked of first officers on scene what have you touched or disturbed. Experience has shown first on scene conducting preliminary investigation officers forget what was touched or just lye.. I can remember one very high profile case when officers were directly asked, did you go look in victim's purse. answer "no: when wagon men were removing victim's body, they were told "don't touch the vehicle", when lifting victim up wagon man's hand braced himself on car. When prints came back from purse and contains of wallet, preliminary officers' prints all over. But still, Detective has no right to verbally assault other officers... proper procedure would to point out mistakes made and officers should use it as a learning experience.
^^^^^^
This is true... and Patrol Sergeants don’t want to face it. They’re too busy telling detectives how they used to work in the Area. So what! You’re in patrol now so, allow the detectives to handle the crime scene. Detectives do a lot of covering for patrol officers, trust me. Do you really want a f*** you match with the detective who is investigating the case that you f***ed up?
Now, if you want to play by the orders, detectives can request that your patrol sergeant initiate a CR each time the scene is contaminated and have his or her a** written up if he or she fail to do so. Play nice and tread lightly.
The patrol sergeant is at fault for not knowing the responsibility of a patrol sergeant.
Regardless of whether it’s a promotion or not. Detectives have unique responsibilities and that’s why you have to stand there until they arrive. Both are blue shirts, but detectives have certain responsibilities and if you have a problem with that try calling Felony Review without a detective better yet have your sergeant to try it. Try call juvenile screening without a detective, better yet have your sergeant to try it.
See how much authority your sergeant has.
Even Deputies step back at the crime scenes. Sergeants are the only ones confused about their role.
Anonymous said...
Why would a sergeant send the paper car into the station, prior to the arrival of the detective? If an arrest is made the paper guy will also have to testify in the case. It’s a great idea to keep the paper car at the scene so that he or she can see things through. At least until he talks to the detective.
12/09/2017 10:25:00 PM
Apparently you’ve never been at a crime scene where it takes 2+ hours for the detectives to show up.
I’d have no problem having the paper car go into the station to do the paper & make notifications while waiting for them to show up at their leisure.
I’ve been in a district for 31 years, 20 as a supervisor and have seen it all too often.
That being said there are also some great detectives out there too.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Old retired detective here. When I became a detective in 1969 an old describe told me. Never yell or tell the beat man anything Ask and you will get better results. Followed his advice and for over 30 years never had a problem with any P.O. and I always remember where we all started. To me all a detective was was a P.O. working a different assignment.
Great advice, but follow my advice and move on in life. Do it for your own sanity.
12/09/2017 08:12:00 PM
By far the best comment on this post!
You’re a wise man!
Who cares ....... someone got yelled at. Back in the day bosses yelled. End of story.
For detectives out there:
It depends on the time of the shooting too. Sometimes when it's getting close to check off, lunch, personal time, etc the officers strong arm the sergeants into "going in the station to start the paper" and if they have a weak sergeant that is exactly what will happen. And it's not like they are writing a narrative of some value....most of the narratives are 5 sentences long; and most contain
heard something "felt pain." These reports are seen by many other people besides the detectives and supervisors, which can be a little embarrassing.
But I do agree that the paper car should wait for the detectives so that they can relate all the important shooting information first hand.
Understanding there are three sides to every story.........
Working in the D's for many years... the first words out of my mouth upon arrival at the scene was always..... "How can I help" ........and I meant it!
Even with the egos, and the macho environment we have to deal with.....I don't remember any major problems/issues... ever. (amazingly..even D.C.s and Deputies on the scene kinda went with the flow with the Det.s)
I don't know what it is like now, but handling officers shot and police involved shootings always required an attention to detail, and procedures to be followed that most who have not experienced it...would not fully understand what is involved in the process.
I hope the unqualified clout merits can help you. Stay Safe....take care of each other...we are all we've got left....Praying for all of you.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Old retired detective here. When I became a detective in 1969 an old describe told me. Never yell or tell the beat man anything Ask and you will get better results. Followed his advice and for over 30 years never had a problem with any P.O. and I always remember where we all started. To me all a detective was was a P.O. working a different assignment.
Great advice, but follow my advice and move on in life. Do it for your own sanity.
12/09/2017 08:12:00 PM
By far the best comment on this post!
You’re a wise man!
I have moved on, been retired 10 years and loving life. Sanity, hell I still have all my marbles and most importantly my health
Where’s all the love?
“Who cares ....... someone got yelled at. Back in the day bosses yelled. End of story.
12/10/2017 08:15:00 PM”
First of all asshat she’s a Defective not a boss. The only one that yelled we’re the incompetent clouted aholes, a good proportion of those were drunks. The true leaders never yelled and got their point across without the need to throw temper tantrums.
How many times have we all waited hours for detectives to go eat before showing up on scene? CPIC and everyone else wants answers before detectives even order food! Then you call the Area for notification and pretty much read them your narrative and detective that shows up knows NOTHING! So wtf does she think she’s yelling at??!!
Anonymous said...
Why would a sergeant send the paper car into the station, prior to the arrival of the detective? If an arrest is made the paper guy will also have to testify in the case. It’s a great idea to keep the paper car at the scene so that he or she can see things through. At least until he talks to the detective.
12/09/2017 10:25:00 PM
To: Apparently you’ve never been at a crime scene where it takes 2+ hours for the detectives to show up.
I’d have no problem having the paper car go into the station to do the paper & make notifications while waiting for them to show up at their leisure. I’ve been in a district for 31 years, 20 as a supervisor and have seen it all too often.
That being said there are also some great detectives out there too.
Sergeant the General Order says... nevermind. Whatever happened to those cute little department issued phones that were in the WOL’s Office, you know the ones, the ones that are supposed to be signed out by patrol sergeants so that officers can make notifications from the field. The ones that are still on the charger in the WOL’s Office. Sergeant maybe you should go into the drawer and start signing out a department issued phone so that your officers can make notifications from the scene. Trust me they do not have GPS on them. There’s no legitimate reason for sending the paper car in unless they have made an arrest. Reports can be done at the scene and notifications as well.
If assigned to that crime scene the first thing out of my mouth would of been
"Listen here Ms. Patrolman assigned as Detective, Go fuck yourself". Way too many people think that Detective is a promotion, its an assignment. For those that still don't understand I'll make it even easier. If you can't give a Patrolman an order, is not a promotion.
To all the primadona detectives out there, you only wanted your title to seem like you are something important and cool, but we all know your just puppets in this fiasco of a department called CPD. all you want is to clear your cases and do as little work as possible, who are you kidding? you can tell your bullshit stories to your family and friends who aren't the police but you aren't fooling anybody but yourselves. your clearance rate for homicides is pathetic, you can't find a homicide offender with a map. so go back to your coffee station in your cheap suits and spandex leggings (very professional), and tell yourself your the best cops ever. what a joke you are.
Now, if you want to play by the orders, detectives can request that your patrol sergeant initiate a CR each time the scene is contaminated and have his or her a** written up if he or she fail to do so. Play nice and tread lightly.
^^^^
Thanks for the invaluable advice. If I ever give a shit about crime again, I'll keep that in mind. Don't worry about "covering" for me. If I fuck up a crime scene, oh well. Case gets tossed? Oh well. I'll admit when I fuck up but to be honest, I don't care at all. Get my sgt to write me up for contaminating a crime scene? Even if all that happened was everyone laughed at you, I would still not care. Now, what I will agree about is that we should all get along and behave like adults. Theres no need to insult anyone or to boast about control and power, it just makes you sound pathetic. Just treat people nice and things will usually be smooth sailing.
Anonymous said...
How many times have we all waited hours for detectives to go eat before showing up on scene? CPIC and everyone else wants answers before detectives even order food! Then you call the Area for notification and pretty much read them your narrative and detective that shows up knows NOTHING! So wtf does she think she’s yelling at??!!
You’re talking about stuff that happened when you were a recruit. This is a younger department now.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
For detectives out there:
It depends on the time of the shooting too. Sometimes when it's getting close to check off, lunch, personal time, etc the officers strong arm the sergeants into "going in the station to start the paper" and if they have a weak sergeant that is exactly what will happen. And it's not like they are writing a narrative of some value....most of the narratives are 5 sentences long; and most contain
heard something "felt pain." These reports are seen by many other people besides the detectives and supervisors, which can be a little embarrassing.
But I do agree that the paper car should wait for the detectives so that they can relate all the important shooting information first hand.
Now this is the dirty truth. By far the best post I’ve read all day.
Sergeants these days have fallen into the peer-pressure of the troops. They don’t want to make the blog, they want to be viewed as a “good bosses” therefore they’ll disregard the G.O. just to be viewed as cool.
First off the Sgt is a goof. Should never write the paper without checking with the Detective, things change quickly. Detective was a crybaby. But let’s not forget, there are a ton of goof Sgt s out there who couldn’t tie their shoes without help. Don’t confuse your rank with my authority.
12/09/2017 10:48:00 PM
HUH? are you serious? Check
with detective before writing the paper? For what reason?
To: Apparently you’ve never been at a crime scene where it takes 2+ hours for the detectives to show up.
I’d have no problem having the paper car go into the station to do the paper & make notifications while waiting for them to show up at their leisure. I’ve been in a district for 31 years, 20 as a supervisor and have seen it all too often.
That being said there are also some great detectives out there too.
Sergeant the General Order says... nevermind. Whatever happened to those cute little department issued phones that were in the WOL’s Office, you know the ones, the ones that are supposed to be signed out by patrol sergeants so that officers can make notifications from the field. The ones that are still on the charger in the WOL’s Office. Sergeant maybe you should go into the drawer and start signing out a department issued phone so that your officers can make notifications from the scene. Trust me they do not have GPS on them. There’s no legitimate reason for sending the paper car in unless they have made an arrest. Reports can be done at the scene and notifications as well.
12/11/2017 06:41:00 AM
Sorry hotshot but I’m not gonna have a car sit there on scene while you go to lunch, then stop by juniors basketball game before you find the time to stop by.
Now, if you want to play by the orders, detectives can request that your patrol sergeant initiate a CR each time the scene is contaminated and have his or her a** written up if he or she fail to do so. Play nice and tread lightly.
12/10/2017 05:07:00 PM
And that Sgt can tell you to gfy and have your Sgt initiate a CR if you feel the need.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
For detectives out there:
It depends on the time of the shooting too. Sometimes when it's getting close to check off, lunch, personal time, etc the officers strong arm the sergeants into "going in the station to start the paper" and if they have a weak sergeant that is exactly what will happen. And it's not like they are writing a narrative of some value....most of the narratives are 5 sentences long; and most contain
heard something "felt pain." These reports are seen by many other people besides the detectives and supervisors, which can be a little embarrassing.
But I do agree that the paper car should wait for the detectives so that they can relate all the important shooting information first hand.
Now this is the dirty truth. By far the best post I’ve read all day.
Not sure about your premise. I’ve found the less you put on the original case report the better. The detective can correct anything that was previously reported but by putting too much on paper opens you to scrutiny on major crime scenes very seldom what’s originally reported turns out to be true
Thanks for the invaluable advice. If I ever give a shit about crime again, I'll keep that in mind. Don't worry about "covering" for me. If I fuck up a crime scene, oh well. Case gets tossed? Oh well. I'll admit when I fuck up but to be honest, I don't care at all. Get my sgt to write me up for contaminating a crime scene? Even if all that happened was everyone laughed at you, I would still not care. Now, what I will agree about is that we should all get along and behave like adults. Theres no need to insult anyone or to boast about control and power, it just makes you sound pathetic. Just treat people nice and things will usually be smooth sailing.
12/11/2017 01:22:00 PM
Has any P.O. ever been written up for contaminating a crime scene? I didn’t think so, so what’s all this crap about a GO covering it
Anonymous said...
To all the primadona detectives out there, you only wanted your title to seem like you are something important and cool, but we all know your just puppets in this fiasco of a department called CPD. all you want is to clear your cases and do as little work as possible, who are you kidding? you can tell your bullshit stories to your family and friends who aren't the police but you aren't fooling anybody but yourselves. your clearance rate for homicides is pathetic, you can't find a homicide offender with a map. so go back to your coffee station in your cheap suits and spandex leggings (very professional), and tell yourself your the best cops ever. what a joke you are.
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I'm guessing you scored shitty on the test, if you passed at all, and you don't have enough juice to get promoted. So go back to the station and screw up another case report that a detective is going to have to fix when you're done. Don't blame the clearance rate on the Detective Division, we're all in this shit together. BTW if detectives are puppets of CPD, and you're a copper, you're a puppet also, you just don't get paid as well. Now go home and get shine box or study harder for the next exam.
Anonymous said...
Now, if you want to play by the orders, detectives can request that your patrol sergeant initiate a CR each time the scene is contaminated and have his or her a** written up if he or she fail to do so. Play nice and tread lightly.
^^^^
Thanks for the invaluable advice. If I ever give a shit about crime again, I'll keep that in mind. Don't worry about "covering" for me. If I fuck up a crime scene, oh well. Case gets tossed? Oh well. I'll admit when I fuck up but to be honest, I don't care at all. Get my sgt to write me up for contaminating a crime scene? Even if all that happened was everyone laughed at you, I would still not care. Now, what I will agree about is that we should all get along and behave like adults. Theres no need to insult anyone or to boast about control and power, it just makes you sound pathetic. Just treat people nice and things will usually be smooth sailing.
12/11/2017 01:22:00 PM
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Junior, you can get fired for inattention to duty. I am an Instructor at the academy who is studying for the next test.
seems like you don't get it, nobody wants your job unless you screwed in the head. glad to be where I'm at, didn't take the test and don't kiss or suck ass like you obviously do. I can look at myself in mirror, you have no shame and are clueless.
send her to the robbery detail on state street
as a detective I always try to get out to the scene or district as quickly as possible. I remember the days of waiting on the Det to show up when I was in patrol. That being said, nothing infuriates me more than when I get there and find out that no paper has been started and I have had to wait 8 hours for the arrest, case report and inventories to be done. If your going to call then have your stuff ready to go. I could care less if you want to rape the city for overtime, but seriously I do have things to do other than watch you eat pizza and screw off before starting your paper.
Sergeants these days have fallen into the peer-pressure of the troops. They don’t want to make the blog, they want to be viewed as a “good bosses” therefore they’ll disregard the G.O. just to be viewed as cool.
*******
Dumbest/funniest post for this story.
Who was the Lt in the D Unit that would call the Watch commander and complain about poor snowflake being chewed out by a Sgt of police, who happens to out rank that snowflake Detective, if you want to call her that.
Where is the Chief of patrol and why isn't he calling that Snowflake Lt. in the D unit and chewing him out a new AZZ.
12/12/2017 10:08:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sergeants these days have fallen into the peer-pressure of the troops. They don’t want to make the blog, they want to be viewed as a “good bosses” therefore they’ll disregard the G.O. just to be viewed as cool.
*******
Dumbest/funniest post for this story.
12/12/2017 06:36:00 PM
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May the hurt dog bark.
Some detectives really think they can tell po's what to do. Dont they realize that they are not supervisors.too bad these coppers didnt tell her what to do with herself. As a Sgt. I had a dick trying to tell me I didnt know what I was doing, well after a few minute man to boy talk he called his Sgt. Who I knew, who also straightened little boy wonder out.
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