What's This? And Why?
- A rejected House bill that would have extended new pension perks to select Chicago aldermen could see another day.
State lawmakers will reconvene Nov. 13 for veto session, during which they will have the opportunity to override Gov. Bruce Rauner’s veto on any bill from the regular session.
One of those bills will be House Bill 5342, a proposal sponsored by state Rep. Robert Martwick, D-Chicago, that would provide an exclusive pension boost to Chicago aldermen who formerly worked for the Chicago Fire Department. The bill would amend the Illinois Pension Code by redefining “active fireman” under the Chicago Firefighter Article to include former firemen currently serving on the Chicago City Council.
How many former firefighters are actually on the City Council right now? Two? Four? So Martwick is going to rewrite the law to benefit a tiny sliver of an already limited club. Why?
Who was running against Martwick last week? A CPD sergeant? And the State FOP Lodge endorsed Martwick so he could introduce a bill to benefit less than half-a-dozen former firefighters?
Who was running against Martwick last week? A CPD sergeant? And the State FOP Lodge endorsed Martwick so he could introduce a bill to benefit less than half-a-dozen former firefighters?
Labels: state politics
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
108 Comments:
This state is so fucked up it’s beyond comprehension! When is enough enough??? Why so much greed and “legal” theft? I thought the pension was beyond repair in Illinois??? We hear about it all the time. Screw you Martwick! And screw you to the fools that voted for this clown! This won’t help Alderman Naps get votes. Expect his opponent to bring it up.
How fucking shady! What’s the back room deal on this? So Martwick did this out of the kindness of his heart? What’s the favor someone gets in return? There’s hardly anyone that falls under this bill. What taxpayer gets fucked on this? Any investigative reporters curious?
So this was kept quiet by Martwick during the election? Why is this necessary? Isn’t Illinois in a pension crisis? Ammie should have done more research. Little late now
Does it surprise you? The democrats are in power to steal every last penny that they can and to enrich themselves and to use our taxes buy votes come election time.
This type of crap has been going on way too long. How is it that no one bats an eyelash anymore. Martwick should be run out of town or put in jail. Piece of shit.
2 firefighters are on the city council.
But with Rauner no longer keeping the watch we’ll see various pension perks being passed by the Democrats.
The Brass Bill will be on the agenda again.
Jacked up pensions for CFD Exempts.
Off topic,
Police Pursuits. KSTP-TV Channel 5 is running a series on whether Police Pursuits are a good practice. This is after a fleeing felon ran over three children on a playground. One was badly broken up, and spent all Summer in the hospital, and is a toddler learning how to walk again. (Previous felon, only got 2-1/2 years). During the research, another fleeing felon wrapped his stolen SUV around a light pole and three innocent bystanders, killing all three. Both were being chased by the Minnesota Highway Patrol off the freeway system onto city streets.
KSTP has an expert LEO Trainer opining that no one should chase traffic violations or stolen cars.
It looks to be a multiple part / day story. Nothing at the web site yet.
https://kstp.com/local/
Alderman Nicholas Sposato is a couple years short to qualify for both an alderman's pension and a firefighter's pension to the best of my understanding. Remember that Alderman Sposato has stood up for the CPD through thick and thin. For his sake, I hope this gets passed. It's common knowledge that he suffers from MS. He's worked hard both as a firefighter and as an alderman. He should receive a pension for his public service.
Interesting but can we get back to SWAT? Now that’s interesting and funny topic
Too busy to fully fund your Pension Fund though.
Correction....CPD merit Sgt.
It sounds like it would benefit Alderman Sposato who was just shy of being able to collect a CFD pension when he became an alderman.
The Dems. own everything in this State, County & City. Look at some of the totals: JB 61.20%, Rauner 15.23%. Martwick 61.20, Kessim 38.80%, Raoul 80.85, Harold 17.01. And it goes on and on. And the judges, unbelievable how much they are liked!! Here is how they win. The majority of people have no idea of whom they are voting for. But the Machine starts with the robocalls, then the big glossy mailers, (I got 15 from Martwick), then they go to the poll where 5 guys who look like they could break your kneecaps are giving you the palmcards that say who to vote for. So what do the sheep do while shaking in the pens? They take the easy way out and take all the "suggestions." They were led to the slaughter by the Dems. They are more powerful and dirtier than the Mob or the Cartels. Don't forget Martwick is closely aligned with Arena and Berrios. Fighting the system here is futile it is too entrenched.
Does it surprise you? The democrats are in power to steal every last penny that they can and to enrich themselves and to use our taxes buy votes come election time.
Watch: "Chicago's Crashing Police Pension Fund" on youtube.
So, you want 3 bites at the apple: Fire, Council,
and a special welfare bill. Lads it ain't happening.
Get yer ass down to the river and work in the pickle
factory like everybody else. You been sitting on your
ass since grade school.
Of course he is. The Chicago Way providing Chicago a Values to The connected Chicago Democratic Machine thieves. Bet he is being paid a handsome sum. But you keep electing these crooks so you are getting just what you deserve. Stop voting Democratic or stop batching, they were elected to do this very thing.
Only surprise here is that not all fifty will be affected. The rest will sue utopia be included.
45th Ward residents:
Remove your relatives from the voters rolls who have died or moved.
Write a simple letter to the board of election commissioners explaining how/why they are no longer living in the ward.
Do not allow John Arena to steal your deceased loved ones vote in the upcoming aldermanic election.
Especially if they resided around Portage Park.
Arena’s stooges control the polling places there.
They’re planning massive fraud in the southern precincts of the ward.
You know, the Dodgers need grandfatherly types to
sell peanuts. It's a groundbreaking venture where they
travel with the team and are subject to the verbal abuse
from the fans of the road trip team. I'm all for it. Let them
know what it is like to work with the public. Most FF's have
poor interpersonal skills anyway.
I'm sorry. I just can't feel sorry for guys who were too lazy
to dress up for Halloween and beg for candy.
There will be an addendum to that bill that will mandate that fireman not be bothered during their designated pinch and tickle time. We know that is precious to them.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
And why wouldn’t this bill say police and fireman???
The firefighter's pension fund is in worse shape than ours. In under 10 years it will be unable to pay annuitants unless something is done now. That something is worrying about everyone, not just yourself.
Martwick is just another Madigan stooge. Do you think he dreamed this bill up himself? These are orders from King Madigan. Thank all your friends who vote for democrats. They are not your friends. ♠️
martwick: just another fucking political ruling class family.
enjoy your tax hikes illinois.
FOP lodge endorsed Martrik, nice, assholes couldn't have endorsed 1 of their own huh?
Watch for more for sale signs!
Alderman Nicholas Sposato is a couple years short to qualify for both an alderman's pension and a firefighter's pension to the best of my understanding. Remember that Alderman Sposato has stood up for the CPD through thick and thin. For his sake, I hope this gets passed. It's common knowledge that he suffers from MS. He's worked hard both as a firefighter and as an alderman. He should receive a pension for his public service.
11/13/2018 01:24:00 AM
Hey Sposato,
Stop it already. We have had enough of your lies. This is most likely the reason you gave away our land to another ward to build a high school on. A high school that kids from your ward will not be able to attend. There will be other challengers that support the police. Anyone but you. You sold your soul And our kids’ future for a pension. You jagoff.
What you tolerate, you get.
It sounds like it would benefit Alderman Sposato who was just shy of being able to collect a CFD pension when he became an alderman.
11/13/2018 01:57:00 AM
Now we know why he let Taft build their annex on Irving Park and Oak Park. It all makes sense now. Quid pro quo. The Chicago way. This city makes me want to puke.
In totalitarian communism,(the demorats ultimate goal)the party functionaries and their families get all the good perks. Security forces get less, but some while the are employed. After employment, they are reduced to the rest of the proletariat, who are lucky to share an apartment with several other families if they are allowed to live in a city. Ask any E. European who lived in the workers paradise.
Are you kidding me ? FOP didn’t endorse a police officer ? How f&cked up that. No wonder this state and city is a sinking ship. Aimee ran on a GOP ticket. Typical fop endorsing a dummy rat Madigan puppet. Shameful.
It’s for Nick Sposato - leave it alone. Let the man get his money.
Napolitano and Sposato are the only two former fire fighters presently on the city council to the best of my knowledge.
Aside from their former mutual city fire department vocation, they both share a lot in common.
Collectively, they have done more in support of the Chicago police department than the rest of the council combined. A few others may have 'talked the talk' but Anthony and Nick have been on our side since day one.
(Naps was also a member of CPD before laterally moving over to the CFD side)
Ask around to those that live in their wards, followed or witnessed many of their pro CPD support and activities etc.
While I'm not necessarily a fan of the mayor and the (rest of) city council I've seen many alderman come and go in my near four decades "on da' job" and I have to give credit where it's due.
And, oh yeah, they're the only two Republicans on the council which also explains why they don't rubber stamp 'every' Rham proposal along party lines.
God Bless and watch over all my brothers and sisters on the CPD along with those that have our back.
Stay Safe.
Ol' vet (ret)
Off subject. Comp time will now be submitted via clearnet. Polite program in 12. No more holding slips. Seniority will finally matter. Discuss.
KSTP has an expert LEO Trainer opining that no one should chase traffic violations or stolen cars.
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Amen.
I'm finishing "House of Cards" on Netflix.
All the fools voted for JB !!!!!
This criminal behavior will continue until you start chopping off the heads of the hydra snake. Starting with the biggest, Madigan.
Thieves keep getting richer
These unfair pensions are ruining America's big cities.
Communist pay all the same rate based on seniority not effort.
No promises life isn't fair.
There have been these special pension rewrites in the past, more then one. A former police sergeant who was head of the state police had his chicago time and service rolled into the state police pension fund and retired as the head of the state police. Others have done the same as the state police pension pays better, way better. Nothing new here. It should be illegal but the corrupt political class always find a way for their friends. Alderman is meant to be a part time job and should not have a pension( a pension way better then the cops)
Off topic -
So NYC and Crystal City, Va get Amazon......and 50,000 jobs
DEMS have turned this city into a war zone, criminals running free, shootings, murders, carjacking, robbery, retail theft at an all time high,
taxes/fees to the taxpayer at an all time high, and NO JOBS......
Sanctuary city, school system a mess, half of the population on the dole.
For what DEMS have done to this city, THEY should all be in jail...
But what did we get instead? The highest DEMONCRATIC vote totals ever in this state! And a CPD "consent decree"....
Why is it that the intrepid journalists at the Trib and Sun-Slimes missed this?
Why is it that a cop website is more willing to discuss abuse of the taxpayer than the so-called Fifth Estate?
Mike Nolan, what's the deal at the Trib? Bosses afraid they won't get invited to all the fun parties?
This is life in Soviet Chicago.
Should have considered the pension before running for office.
Alderman Nicholas Sposato is a couple years short to qualify for both an alderman's pension and a firefighter's pension to the best of my understanding. Remember that Alderman Sposato has stood up for the CPD through thick and thin. For his sake, I hope this gets passed. It's common knowledge that he suffers from MS. He's worked hard both as a firefighter and as an alderman. He should receive a pension for his public service.
But Martwick promised that police pensions are safe because he is the boss of the state committee. Why should be worried?
OT
So Ram wants to make sure whitey can't move to Pilsen. Keep Pilsen Brown, eh? Could you imagine a law keeping Mt Greenwood white??
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/local/emanuel-to-unveil-preservation-strategy-for-pilsen-and-little-village/ar-BBPDmpC
Get a load of this!
Anyone ever hear of this?
Did you know that since 1982, the Republican Party had been legally prohibited from contesting elections due to suspected vote fraud, because of a legal agreement called the Consent Decree the GOP made with the Democrat Party?
http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/end-of-1982-consent-decree-gop-finally-can-contest-vote-fraud-after-36-years/
They will get it....Does anybody but Us care that the Pension fund is going broke? These hogs will feed at he trough until there is no more...I already have my panhandling spot picked out at State/Division...A homeless person once told me he makes about $140.00 on a average day. Do the math....
Similar to the time some alderman forgot to re-register his handguns. With no fanfare or publicity the city council opened a ten day window to re-register guns. The alderperson and a connected few were the only ones to take advantage of the opportunity.
Hey, it’s for some of our “brothers”
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Watch: "Chicago's Crashing Police Pension Fund" on youtube.
Not really accurate. Has some valid points but not a complete picture
Once again, always the police, what about the fire pension fund. It’s in worse shape than ours
One thing that was exaggerated was that is will be broke by 2021
Does it surprise you? The democrats are in power to steal every last penny that they can and to enrich themselves and to use our taxes buy votes come election time.
11/13/2018 02:16:00 AM
We saw it the first time. Thanks for participating.
I voted straight republican for the 1st Time. I’m sick and tired of these,thieving, lying, liberal pieces of shit Democrats rat bastards!
Related to Pensions:
https://www.truthinaccounting.org/news/detail/chicago-police-and-fire-pension-plans-growing-flush-or-going-broke
"The latest annual financial report for the City of Chicago’s firefighter pension fund (2017) showed a funded ratio (technically called the “plan fiduciary net position as a percentage of the total pension liability”) of 20 percent.
Not 100 percent, not 80 percent. Twenty percent.
The City of Chicago’s police pension fund wasn’t much better, coming in at about 24 percent in 2017."
The rest of the article shows exactly how much more shady that 24 percent is considering how creatively the city actuaries count assets. So for the "I'm only in it for the pension" group out there, the math isn't exactly looking like green pastures. Of course the city and state can keep kicking the can down the road via court orders and tax hikes, but eventually reality will sink in. Politicians lie. Numbers don't. It has already been a hard reality for retirees when the health benefits were cut. Can you imagine getting an IOU in the mail? I just hope that more people are aware at the sad state of our pension fund, especially the new people.
Sposato hasn’t done anything but sit on his ass and wait for his two pensions. Just like everyone else that drinks the kool aid.
So great to see Second City Cop back up and speaking the truth to the Powers That Be.
God Bless Second City Cop and all our writers and readers.
It's a fallen world, especially in our Chicago City (I'm 3rd Generation Chicago City) and things do often look hopeless.
But, I/we've been through worse. I was 7 years old during the 1968 Summer of riots, civil war - I was heavily engaged in that '68 Civil War.
Stay strong Chicago brothers and sisters. My father always told be the bad things about Chicago (bad weather, bad crime, bad political corruption) "Builds character" - it's why we're the tough, moral people we are.
Alderman Nicholas Sposato is a couple years short to qualify for both an alderman's pension and a firefighter's pension to the best of my understanding. Remember that Alderman Sposato has stood up for the CPD through thick and thin. For his sake, I hope this gets passed. It's common knowledge that he suffers from MS. He's worked hard both as a firefighter and as an alderman. He should receive a pension for his public service.
11/13/2018 01:24:00 AM
This is meant to give a bonus to former firefighters by considering them to be "active firefighters" simply because they're aldermen. An alderman is not a firefighter. They get a ridiculous pension as it is for being aldermen. They don't need or deserve a boost to that pension, regardless of their former occupation, or how they feel about the police. If an alderman doesn't serve long enough to receive a pension, regardless of his medical status, too bad. If he didn't serve long enough as a firefighter to receive a pension, too bad. You don't get to redefine terms to benefit your friends just because you like them and they're good to you. An active firefighter is someone who actively works as a firefighter. This is a completely ridiculous idea.
“...formerly worked for the Chicago Fire Department...refining ‘active fireman’ for current former...”
Had you known Martwick was going to come up with this doozie for one tiny group AFTER the election, would more had voted for the Sgt? (Not saying just because you’re CPD makes you qualified either, I can think of one AlderSgt who is a complete biased tool.)
I don’t think this is solely about Spos & Naps W38th - 41st or any others Council members either.
Emphasis on Former. It would take some digging to find former benefactors.
More likely it’s for a few shifty gold braids planning on entering the statewide electorals soon.
Is someone’s short time CFD cousin about to be appointed?
These Dem m-fers are not about to give a bone to just anyone, certainly not to anyone that rountinly opposed Rahm.
They all talk about pension reform, now this biscuit.
Hmmmm.
Expect this to find its way into the Me Too Clause and additional addendums for CPS, CTA, Cook County.
No soup for you CPD - of course.
This could only be a test on Addendums on the IL Constitution, part of an eventual JB JagBag Pension Tax Plan.
The only way to alter and diminish a pension is through addendum, which is a significant tax on all IL pensions and $2 Billion Sanctuary revenue boost - thank you very much.
Pass this addendum and watch for more to roll in to effect First Responders and not for good intention.
Did anyone ever think the City was going to give you FREE healthcare for life after the obamacare was being introduced?
They’ve been planning this addendum sneak around plan for a while.
Never Trust a Democrat.
Is anyone surprised by another political payoff to drain pension funds as the pigs get fat and the hogs go to slaughter!
Then over here:
Mother of security guard shot dead by cop at bar wants ‘to see justice done’
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/jemel-roberson-security-guard-shooting-midlothian-police-officer-robbins-bar/
The mother of a security guard who was shot and killed by a police officer while trying to apprehend a gunman at a south suburban bar said Tuesday she didn’t know if her son had been mistaken by police as one of the offenders.
“I don’t know if it was a mistake or not,” said Beatrice Roberson.
“I do want to see justice done,” she said during a brief phone interview Tuesday morning.
A white Midlothian Police officer, responding to a shooting at Manny’s Blue Room tavern in neighboring Robbins to lend assistance, shot African-American security guard Jemel Roberson, 26, who was armed and reacting to a shooting that happened inside the bar moments earlier, authorities said.
Momma smelling that huge payout coming says she does not know if this was a "mistake" or not! is this insane crazy moron really saying no mistake that police kilt her kid? Had a 30 year CPD career never once has a copper intentionally killed an innocent person! And they have to mention a "white" police officer and the hating police media happily reports it! how many stories with blacks involved is the race omitted purposely? If the reporters are so in bed with lying,why don't they move into say the west side,or englewood to see how the non-race reported folks/people live? The answer they are so scared,and frightened but they are brave reporting other races!
Why coppers anywhere get involved in this bullshit and respond quickly to ghetto nonsense is beyond any reasoning! Another young copper with a skull full of mush getting jammed up, maybe our own backwards baseball cap, jeep wrangler lifted wranglers with the punisher decals can learn also!
The RICH get RICHER! Isn't it amazing that the alder creeps can vote themselves a raise? how fucked up is that? Like they would say no...what a fucking joke this city is thats going into the dumps quickly. This city will become another Detroit.
Police Pursuits. KSTP-TV Channel 5 is running a series on whether Police Pursuits are a good practice. This is after a fleeing felon ran over three children on a playground. One was badly broken up, and spent all Summer in the hospital, and is a toddler learning how to walk again. (Previous felon, only got 2-1/2 years). During the research, another fleeing felon wrapped his stolen SUV around a light pole and three innocent bystanders, killing all three. Both were being chased by the Minnesota Highway Patrol off the freeway system onto city streets
--- We have had a non-pursuit policy for years here. People were suing the fuck out of the city and the department every time a criminal maimed or killed a bystander because the police tried to arrest him while fleeing. If they started handing out the death penalty for every asshole who murdered an innocent while actively fleeing the police in a vehicle, this shit would come to a halt. But instead, they blame the police for everything because it is easier and more profitable than holding the real criminal accountable. This is what they want so give it to them. This job just keeps getting easier thanks to the stupidity of the politicians and their constituents.
If this bill is for Alderman Sposato then let it pass. Alderman Sposato is ONE OF THE BEST in the City Counsel. He has stood up for the Police on every occasion. He is one of the only alderman who you can go to his office and talk with, without having to go through the Ward Secretary.
This bill is for Alderman Sposato.
The deal is that when the bill passes, Sposato can retire and then Martwick will get appointed as 38th Ward Alderman.
Sposato already gave Martwick the Committeeman seat.
Pensions lol, and the city can take your 401k also if it is ever allowed to declare bankruptcy!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off subject. Comp time will now be submitted via clearnet. Polite program in 12. No more holding slips. Seniority will finally matter. Discuss.
11/13/2018 08:45:00 AM
If true there will be a lot of unhappy inside people. Doubt it will change just come in late or if ever caught leaving early, they will say you were released early for sickness. Things won’t change
Anonymous said...
Should have considered the pension before running for office.
11/13/2018 10:28:00 AM
Well, he couldn't fight fires anymore so what are you suggesting?
Rep Marwick is a JUNIOR. His daddy was a long time boss for the Harwood Heights or Norridge and the Cook County Democrat Party Treasurer. Senior is a huge ally of Madigan. Martwick Junior lived in the burbs and first got in the Illinois House as a suburbanite.
Only very recently, Martwick moved to guess where? The east end of the 38th ward, close to Jeff Park and his buddy John Arena.
Martwick has become the 38th Ward Democratic Committeeman. Do you see it yet?
Sposato endorsed Martwick this time around for state rep, over Sgt Kessem. Martwick fixes Rauner's pension veto. Sposato can retire and Martwick will be anointed 38th Ward Alderman.
Martwick had to beat Ammie Kessem so he didn't look like a total bustout running for alderman.
Sposato will run unopposed in 2019, and win. Martwick and Arena can focus their attacks on Napolitano and try to oust him for Elmwood Park Fireman Progressive Henegan. Sposato will retire 2 years later and Progressive Martwick will be appointed 38th Ward Alderman.
Prog buddies Arena, Martwick and Henegan will have a strangle hold on the NW Side. They will build Section 8 housing projects like 5150 in each ward to protect their voting base.
Get ready. That's the plan. Never say you weren't warned....
UST follow the current rules. He was fully aware of the pension situation when he gave up fire job to become Alderman. If he's short time to bad his choice. But since he is a Democrat he will get your money. Not his money your money. Enjoy paying him more.
I voted straight republican for the 1st Time. I’m sick and tired of these,thieving, lying, liberal pieces of shit Democrats rat bastards!
11/13/2018 12:05:00 PM
Wow, you seem upset. First time voting for the republicans? No need, the damage you already caused is unrepairable.
Just curious how much are the city residents willing to pay to make city and state solvent? Ten, twenty or thirty thousand dollars, winch after earnings taxes will mean earning at least 15,28 or 40K PER HOUSEHOLD MEMBER to make state solvent. Ready to take that second or third job to pay the public employees pensions? Didn't think so. Bankruptcy is looming city and state will not be able to borrow their way out of this hole the Democrats have dug. Yes Democrats, despite some token Republicans in state government the corrupt Chicago Democratic Machine and Mile Madigan have total control of all State functions. It is not a question of if your going to pay only how much your going to be forced to cough up. Enjoy the ride.
Ritch Daley gave tons of pension perks to alderman. All the politicians taking care of their own in Illinois have depleted the funds. For regular city workers who will get hit the hardest nobody seems to notice. Where is the outrage?
Why coppers anywhere get involved in this bullshit and respond quickly to ghetto nonsense is beyond any reasoning! Another young copper with a skull full of mush getting jammed up, maybe our own backwards baseball cap, jeep wrangler lifted wranglers with the punisher decals can learn also!
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There is no reaching them. I have tried. I honestly no longer care when coppers get jammed up. So many coppers out there think that coppers in CPD are stripped for bullshit. Not true. Learn the stories of coppers at callback. We have a lot of fucked up people on this job.
Zero sympathy
"designated pinch and tickle time"
Sheeeeet, I thought it was slap and tickle
Gov.-elect J.B. Pritzker helped bankroll, to the tune of $7 million, the campaigns for House Democrats who won big enough to give powerful Speaker Michael Madigan even more muscle in Springfield, according to state election records.
That’s a fraction of the $170 million-plus that Pritzker, a billionaire heir to the Hyatt hotel chain, pumped into his own campaign. But the $7 million was a healthy cut of the money spent on House races, and it helped, Madigan spokesman Steve Brown said.
Off subject. Comp time will now be submitted via clearnet. Polite program in 12. No more holding slips. Seniority will finally matter. Discuss.
What's a polite program?
Pensions lol, and the city can take your 401k also if it is ever allowed to declare bankruptcy!
11/13/2018 03:50:00 PM
WRONG! Your 457B plan can NOT be touched. Nationwide is the custodian. Not the city. Dummy..
Martwick was always a POS. He has lived off of Daddys coattails.
These people who say just let him get his pension because he's a nice guy, you can talk to him,he has medical issues.....GFY! nothing against the man but those attitudes are definitely part of the problem. Typical Chicago Democrat values.
Shady Mofo's
Martwick Sr. took the bar and passed it for Richie Daley, who flunked it twice. That’s how they got their start.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off subject. Comp time will now be submitted via clearnet. Polite program in 12. No more holding slips. Seniority will finally matter. Discuss.
What's a polite program?
11/13/2018 07:37:00 PM
It’s an ongoing program to assist officers in returning to the generally collegial atmosphere pre-Bubblehead. Some officers are taking longer than others to make the adjustment.
What's a polite program?
11/13/2018 07:37:00 PM
They still turn you down, citing lack of manpower, but they are really, really nice about it.
Had a 30 year CPD career never once has a copper intentionally killed an innocent person!
11/13/2018 02:27:00 PM
They do not believe it. Take BLM. They believe cops are constantly killing black people, and killing them for no good reason. A minority civilian once told me it statistically stands to reason that a certain percentage of CPD police shootings have to be unjustified. With nothing to validate his opinion, he believed our number of unjustified police shootings was north of 20%. And, there are many of the community in agreement with him. That is their perception of us.
I wish our Midlothian brother good luck in the coming days, weeks, months and years. I hope he can keep the faith and stay strong.
So NYC and Crystal City, Va get Amazon......and 50,000 jobs.
11/13/2018 09:44:00 AM
Specifically, the Long Island City neighborhood of Queens, NYC.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off subject. Comp time will now be submitted via clearnet. Polite program in 12. No more holding slips. Seniority will finally matter. Discuss.
What's a polite program?
11/13/2018 07:37:00 PM
I’m sure they meant “Pilot”
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This bill is for Alderman Sposato.
The deal is that when the bill passes, Sposato can retire and then Martwick will get appointed as 38th Ward Alderman.
Sposato already gave Martwick the Committeeman seat.
11/13/2018 03:18:00 PM
Yup.
Lets connect some dots here.
Former CFD Sposato was first elected as 36th Ward alderman in 2011, defeating the Banks/DeLeo clan. With the 2012 remap he was mapped out of the 36th. He moves to a house that was mapped into the 38th Ward.
In 2015 Spostato runs in 38th, defeating the Cullerton Clan's handpicked choice. Two years later he wins the 38th Ward Dem Committeeman seat when Patricia J Cullerton choses not to run. Oh. And Nick makes peace with Billy Banks and Jimmy DeLeo.
Meanwhile Robbie Martwick has the 19th House District seat bequeathed to him by his father, Norwood Park Township Dem Committeeman Bob Martwick, Mike Madigan, Joe Berrios, and Joe Lyons. He subsequently moves from his Norridge base to the 38th Ward.
In 2017 Sposato resigns as Dem Ward Committeeman & recommends Robbie Martwick for the post. Sposato also declares he will run again for 38th Ward alderman with this being his last term. And yes, the scuttlebutt is once re-elected Sposato will resign with the 38th Ward being turned over Martwick, a staunch Alderasshole Arena ally.
Personally I appreciate Sposato's support for PO's. And his service as CFD. Yet that support & service does not justify this political payback funded by the taxpayers.
Besides. Why does any person in elected office deserve a pension?
Just look at all the support for letting someone collect a pension he is not entitled to. He's a nice guy so let him have it attitude makes me sick. Either he earned it or he didn't. In Chicago even the police will side with pension fraud if they think you vote the right way and thats no different than what the dems have done for years. You ether have ethics or you don't.
Bill Cunningham stated at a town hall meeting at Mt Greenwood park that if our pension goes broke we will still get paid. The money will then come from the cities operating budget. And that it is written in the state laws or constitution. I don't remember which.
Alderman can retire with only 20 year of service and receive 80% of saLARY based on the LAST MONTH OF WORK!!!
Kid get some time on the job! Why should he catch a break because he pushed a few laws that he would benefit from?
He could have went on disability if he stayed a fireman.
Live with your choices...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So NYC and Crystal City, Va get Amazon......and 50,000 jobs.
11/13/2018 09:44:00 AM
Specifically, the Long Island City neighborhood of Queens, NYC.
11/14/2018 02:16:00 AM
But the cost is astronomical:
It works out to $48,000 per job. The remaining $325 million to $505 million will be in the form of cash grants dispersed over 10 to 15 years, depending whether Amazon goes beyond its job goals
After Sposato is re-elected he’s going to resign. It’s Martwick whose getting it, but a female CPD sergeant. And NOT the one who just ran against Martwick. It’s good to have worked for Madigan.
100 US Senators, 50 chicago alder creatures WTF
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Alderman Nicholas Sposato is a couple years short to qualify for both an alderman's pension and a firefighter's pension to the best of my understanding. Remember that Alderman Sposato has stood up for the CPD through thick and thin. For his sake, I hope this gets passed. It's common knowledge that he suffers from MS. He's worked hard both as a firefighter and as an alderman. He should receive a pension for his public service.
He will get a pension. He doesn't deserve a special bonus to the pension just because he was CFD.
Vote VALLAS
This has to be about Sposato. He doesn't qualify for a pension under current protocols and needs legal intervention. He has MS and that may be affecting how long he can continue to work.
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20171010/dunning/nicholas-sposato-democrat-38th-ward-democratic-commiteeman-robert-martwick/
My brother in law, who paid 6.5% of his income into Soc. Security, often remarks about how rich I’ll be with my Big City pension failing to mention that I paid about 10% of my salary into it over the years. He also thinks it’s OK that government employees only get a fraction of their SS benefits regardless of how many quarters they earned in the service or on part time jobs. Someone should set the record straight.
another way Martwick will f--k the average guy. Sposato knew what he was getting into. He know wants special treatment just like all the others. Call his office and they always tell you call 311 for a cr number. Anything to get more pension from the taxpayers.
If someone wants a twenty year CHICAGO police pension then you should serve as a cop in Chicago for 20 years. Period. No exceptions. Whether someone is a good guy doesn’t matter. You can’t change state law because one guy is a nice guy. That’s dumb thinking
This is all BS. That is why disability was invented. He will qualify for that if and when necessary. Hasn't happened yet so why the rush to get him extra. Just another pig at the public trough.
Just because he doesn't profess his hatred for cops means he should get something helse has not earned. Another case of given not earned. L3t him earn it like everyone else. If you will be opening another door for the Alder thieves to raid. And they will raid it.
Guess rules are for the taxpayers public not Qlde4men. They get to bend the rules to suit themselves. You supporters are wrong he needs to put in the time to get his dime. Only in his case it will be a million or so over the next ten years. Is he worth that?
He knew what he was doing when he ran. Better to steal more as an Alderman they coll3ct CPD pension. In long run way ahead as an Alderman. He doesn't need extra has plenty socked away. If Alderman is part time job why is there and pension to begin with.
Anonymous said...
After Sposato is re-elected he’s going to resign. It’s Martwick whose getting it, but a female CPD sergeant. And NOT the one who just ran against Martwick. It’s good to have worked for Madigan.
11/14/2018 09:12:00 AM
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Pure BS.
Anonymous said...
If this bill is for Alderman Sposato then let it pass. Alderman Sposato is ONE OF THE BEST in the City Counsel. He has stood up for the Police on every occasion. He is one of the only alderman who you can go to his office and talk with, without having to go through the Ward Secretary.
Your joking right? The only thing he has done that has been positive is help with getting stray dogs adopted. He stabbed his entire ward in the back by playing political games with our children's education. He hasn't done shit. Big deal he stands up for the CPD and CFD. He should be standing up for all the citizens he is supposed to representing. Smoke and mirrors and talking out of both sides of his mouth are his best qualities. As for walking into his office and talking to him, good luck....
Hey Sposato,
Stop it already. We have had enough of your lies. This is most likely the reason you gave away our land to another ward to build a high school on. A high school that kids from your ward will not be able to attend. There will be other challengers that support the police. Anyone but you. You sold your soul And our kids’ future for a pension. You jagoff.
11/13/2018 08:10:00 AM
Heard about the school issue, but I don't have kids and don't live in 38. Have family that we're CPD and know Sposato is a supporter. Sposato is a pussycat compared to the asshole I'm stuck with, his name is Arena, I'm sure you've heard of him.
11/13/2018 02:27:00 PM
It's not even legal to have armed security in bars he should have been smart enough to drop the gun when Officers responded all they see pulling up is him pointing a gun at people.
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