Per Mile Tax
Remember when Jay-Bee "BJ" the Hutt said he wasn't going to propose a per-mile tax during the campaign? He just had someone else do it:
- Bill Status of HB2864
House Sponsors
Rep. Marcus C. Evans, Jr.
Amends the Motor Fuel Tax Law. Creates the per-mile road usage charge pilot program. Provides that the registered owner of a motor vehicle that is approved to participate in the program shall, in lieu of the taxes imposed under the Motor Fuel Tax Law, pay a per-mile road usage charge for metered use by the subject vehicle of the highways in this State. Provides that the per-mile road usage charge is $0.021 per mile. Effective immediately.
Two-and-one-tenth cents per mile?
And pardon our disbelief, but this would repeal the Motor Fuel Tax Law in its entirety? How are they going to register out-of-state miles since we spend a lot of time outside this hellhole on our days off?
Looks like we'll be driving to work in reverse as much as possible.
And pardon our disbelief, but this would repeal the Motor Fuel Tax Law in its entirety? How are they going to register out-of-state miles since we spend a lot of time outside this hellhole on our days off?
Looks like we'll be driving to work in reverse as much as possible.
Labels: dumb ideas
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
79 Comments:
The visualization of that statement in my mind.
Last time I checked they don’t own my car and don’t have my consent to attach any device to keep track of miles with in the state of Illinois. This state, county, and city blow.
There will be only one charge for me.. Probably a nickel... As I head to the Indiana border, get on I-65 and haul my ass to Kentucky permanently...
P.S. Don't spend that nickel all in one place JB...
"Looks like we'll be driving to work
in reverse as much as possible."
Lol!
We vaguely recall a long ago Tim Conway detective show
send-up where he drove a '63 Plymouth Savoy in which
Reverse was the only operable gear...
>Camera pan of a '63 Savoy crossing the
Golden Gate Bridge in reverse<
Cue:
Jaunty music.
Hellacious gear whine.
She-yat...
Fake it 'til ya make it.
Thanx for helping us to remember a classic funny, SCC...
The tax is more about control.
Make it prohibitively expensive to operate a privately owned vehicle in certain places at certain times.
Control.
That law SHOULD apply to ALL Electric Vehicles.
Right now all EVs get a pass on paying all taxes collected at the pump.
Let me say that again for those who did not comprehend it the first time:
That law SHOULD apply to ALL Electric Vehicles.
Right now all EVs get a pass on paying all taxes collected at the pump.
I'm tired of paying "my fair share" of Road Taxes at the pump and have those who bought EVs not only get a $7,500 rebate paid to them by fellow taxpayers on their car purchase, but also get a "pass" at the pump on all State and Federal Road Taxes.
Want to tax "by the mile"? Start with all the EVs. AND, how are they going to mount these devices onto cars/vehicles? Will the owners have to pay for the device to be put on?
How will this be monitored??
I’m going to be registering my stuff to a P.O. Box in WI, maybe IN. Let me know if anyone else wants one when I go. Maybe we can get a group rate!!! This state is such a joke.
This state is driving me Bonkers! I had my accountants calculate this JB the Hutt's Mileage Penalty Tax to see how it effects my Rolls-Royce. (Remember, I bought one because they are safe and luxurious, not because they get great gas mileage.)
Let's DO THE MATH on this to see the New Picture on taxes:
Remember those Word Problems you hated in school? Well here is a good one.
I give an average car to show what gets 20MPG, 30MPG, 40MPG etc. NOT that you would ever see a Howell driving any of these cars. (ALL City Mileage, except CAR C)
Rolls - Gets 12 miles per gallon (only fair to figure out what I have to pay)
CAR A - Gets 20 miles per gallon (Nissan Pathfinder)
CAR B - Gets 30 miles per gallon (VW Jetta)
CAR C - Gets 40 miles per gallon (Chevy Spark - 40MPG on HWY, not city)
Let's say Road Tax is $.40 (forty cents) a gallon at the pump.
JB the HUTT tax per mile - $.021 per mile
How much tax does each car pay EVERY 1,200 Miles in "Road Taxes" using the Pump or the JB Mileage Penalty Tax formula?
Rolls - Gas tax on 1,200 Miles - ($.40 x 100 gallons) = $40.00
JBM Tax on 1,200 Miles - ($.021 x 1,200 Miles = $25.20
CAR A - Gas tax on 1,200 Miles - ($.40 x 60 gallons) = $24.00
JBM Tax on 1,200 Miles - ($.021 x 1,200 Miles = $25.20
CAR B - Gas tax on 1,200 Miles - ($.40 x 40 gallons) = $16.00
JBM Tax on 1,200 Miles - ($.021 x 1,200 Miles = $25.20
CAR C - Gas tax on 1,200 Miles - ($.40 x 30 gallons) = $12.00
JBM Tax on 1,200 Miles - ($.021 x 1,200 Miles = $25.20
EGADS!! Take a GOOD NOTICE on how the smaller cars (which are much less SAFE on the Road than my Rolls) are now "penalized" and will be paying a LOT more than what they paid at the pump. Don't the Masses drive cars like that?
So if you have some safe Gas Guzzler Car like mine, you are NOT going to be penalized as much as those who thought they were "doing good for the environment" and buying a smaller, more fuel-efficient car (which is not as safe as my three-ton Tank).
If you have a high-MPG car (which is also unsafe because it is so small and light), you pay DOUBLE in taxes than at the Pump.
Looks like those of us on the North Shore have been taken care of by JB. Good propaganda "Make Billionaires pay their fair share." LOL - That's Grand!!!
If you want to save money sell that unsafe econobox and buy a Rolls boys! You can't go wrong.
Be like a Howell and not a commoner, or pauper!! Let the Masses pay these stupid Sheriff of Nottingham Taxes. Looks like JB hoodwinked the Masses - again.
I'll have to tell all my friends with Rolls and Bentleys that this Mileage Tax is a good thing - for the Masses to pay for.
They can find out when you leave the State with GPS as that's how they keep track of the miles driven AND YOU. Welcome to the start of the dystopian world of socialism where the government follows you and controls you. In Sweden the people are agreeing to be embedded with chips which contain all their personal information which they can use to ride a train, get healthcare, charge things. The government knows your every step. Some companies here are starting this. So think about this, maybe sometime down the road the government doesn't like you or your politics. Now they can cut you off via your chip. No healthcare, no charging, no gas, no train ride. The politicians are brilliant. George Orwell's 1984 is here now. And how about those Swedes, they must be pretty naive to go along with this, but then again they let all those third world migrants into their country and the migrants are destroying the country.
Wow now the 4th most corrupt state will be number one as the most taxed state. Thanks Democrats.
If anyone really believes that they will replace the existing gas tax with the per mile tax I have a bridge for sale. The milage tax will be an additional tax when all the dust settles. Will start out kind of low .021 then very quickly escalate, my guess is .05 in two years and then .10 in five. Then who knows. The out of state question is a valid one. Wonder if they will equip all the moving vans with the meters first because there will be a lot of relocation going on soon. Sell your property while the price is high, that price is about to drop. The Democrats want all your money and now have the power in the state to take it.
And just how did the drilling minds in Springfield come up with .021? Won't be that amount very long. This is just a way to allow those on welfare too avoid another tax. They will be exempt when final law become a reality. Now there is no way to exempt them from a pergallon tax this law will be the vehicle to pander once again to the community. Once again the poor working stiff will be picking up the tab for the lazy uneducated and illegal mostly Chicago area community scum. This on top of the $1000 Free money plan in Chicago. Yeah Democrats way to go.
So you are saying to yourself oh, .021 I can live with that. But you know in your heart it will not be .021 for long. Bridges need fixing and potholes need filling and some streets need rebuilding and community has new demands. So very quickly the .021 becomes .05 then in short order .10 they .15 and so on. They got you and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. Oh and by the way they won't be repealing the gas tax maybe just lowering it a little for a while and when no one is playing attention will raise it again. This makes the Chicago Sugar Tax pail by comparison. All Democrats want ALL your money.
this does not add up. but again what does?
travel 100 miles to pay 2.1 cents?
that decimal point will have to go all the way to the right just to pay the administration costs.
Fuck them!!! Not paying a fuckin dime!!
Oh, this is just the start of taxes to come. With all the illegal aliens coming over the border to increase the Democrat's new voter base they will need more programs and aid for them. So the Democrats are counting on you to finance them. I am surprised that haven't started the rain tax as some of the eastern states have. You get charged by how much rain runoff there is on your property every time it rains. They might even tax the sunshine. Bill Daley, in one of his slick mailings said he doesn't want to tax the home owners so look to a tax on the pensions, less payout on pensions and paying more into them. He wants to look into them to make changes. But it shouldn't affect Richie's pensions.
This is exactly how the Nazis gained control by keeping tabs on the citizens. Welcome to the future of Illinois all brought to you courtesy of the democrats and the sympathizers that keep voting for them. Soon Jelly Belly and Madigan will send out the tax collecting Storm Troopers to see if your "papers are in order" Anyone who votes for Illinois democrats is NOT your friend. Viva la resistance. ♠️
Monitoring is easy. The device in your car will use GPS to track your every movement. That G.P.S. information will go to a Illinois government computer and a program will compute your tax bills. The rest of the information will be stored in a government computer for any of your enemies with Democrat clout to download and use your every movement to make life miserable for you. Your movements may show you needed to get a certain city's vehicle sticker and you will be hauled into court to pay fines. Your car insurance may go up because you went over your estimated mileage. The State Police will send you computerized tickets for every instance you went over the speed limits. Hackers will know when you are away from home so they know when it is safe to burglarize your house. Chicago will have the ability to accurately levy a “head tax” on automobile commuters working in the city who live outside of it. When the pilot program is successful, they will pass a law to apply this to everyone. If you don't have clout to fix things with a phone call, you should be worried.
You are not installing any government controlled odometer on my car without a fight in federal court for violation of the 1st & 4th Amendments. I'll file. Trust me.
More brilliant ideas from clueless people.
Hey, let’s make the bullet tax, bottled water tax, and a renewed soda tax statewide.
0.021x67=1.407 worth every penny to get out of Illinois for good.
This is doa. There states no method of tracking. Plus its optional if you want to sign up. Only a certain amount can. Plus it may work out for some people since they would no longer have to pay .19 cents per gallon. Which of course has no way of tracking either.
How are they going to register out-of-state miles since we spend a lot of time outside this hellhole on our days off?
Damn straight, we drive 1,800 miles out of the State in the winter and stay away for 6 months. How would that be taxed?
Just put a dang wall around the whole State. Enter your mileage on a ticket when you enter the State and pay in order to get out of the hell hole.
How are the exempt guinea pigs gonna get their MFT money back? You pay that at the pump. Save your receipts and get reimbursed? I'm sure that will work well.
Fuck this commie state.
Why not just do this for electric vehicles?
Let me get this straight.
I drive to Arizona, Florida or Texas, Illinois is going to have their hands in my wallet even though I'm thousands of miles away stealing money from me!
Chicago, Cook County and Illinois is corrupt to be damned!
Can't wait to move from Illinois permanently from this shithole of a state, to a nice Red State!
Da Pelon
And just think. Some of our fellow coworkers actually voted for this crook.
How is this going to work with the millions of vehicles from other states?!
I'm sure most vehicle owners will tell Illinois to buzz off!
Can't wait to get my state plates from Florida for all of my vehicles, by the way!
This guy is starting to sound a lot like our former wine slurping kindofsewer. Rich people just don't think like people who struggle from paycheck to paycheck. They pull all the toilets out of their mansion to save a little chump change and expect the peasants to pay their share.
Your mileage will be tracked via GPS devices. Everywhere you drive... tracked and monitored.
Google Pritzker and milage tax January 2018.
Well before the election, he said in an interview that he wanted to do this milage tax.
He waffled closer to the election but he's been all for this all along.
p.s. I voted for Rauner. (lesser of two evils)
Check your math SCC. $0.021 is 2.1 cents per mile.
BJ gonna make you Yaw
Gotta Motor Fuel Tax Law
Get up, Get Down, Say 9, Say 8
Baby I'ma Workin' So Hard
BJ Gonna Need His Cape!
I don't think this will pass...At least I hope so anyway.....FUCKIN DUMBOCRATS.......
I am sure that the existing motor tax will be "phased out" over time but the phase out will never quite take place. So in the end just another pool of our money for the Dems to dole out to their campaign donors in the form of contracts.
This is something only a Prickwrinkle would do.
Mind you Rep. Marcus would be exempt and use his company car (and budget) to do his commuting and sorts about town, just like Prickwrinkle did with her once black abandoned suv.
This may not be feasible, just an attempt by a nobody get some Green New Dill exposure to follow the national trend.
A whole new set of tax revenues coming like it or not. Some in the form of “levies” not “taxes”.
Home rule and taxing the pensions - but state elected officials including judges will exempt themselves.
Since they won’t likely tax ordinary stuff, they’re coming up with a kinds of new schemes.
At what point will the 700,000 Chicago, 1.2 mil Cook Co, or 2.5 mil IL Democrat voters (or portions thereof) say, get your hand outta my pocket? What did they except? Somebody has to pay for raises to the Entitlements.
Amazon knew.
Did You Know:
In 2016 Rahm donated $45,000 to Rep. Evans re-election campaign when Vallas was Chicago State University Chief Admin Officer (20% grad.rate).
After Rep. Evans beefed to CSU that Vallas had a conflict of interest (because he announced he was running for mayor) on a Thursday.
Vallas was launched, fired, dismissed from the CSU Chief Admin spot the following Monday.
That's roughly double what the state's gasoline tax is. You drive 10,000 miles per year and get 20 mpg = 500 gal. gas 500 x $0.19 / per gallon motor fuel tax is $95.00 10,000 miles x $0.021 = $210.00 (and, as you note, they'll collect the tax on miles driven out of state). No mention of the city, county, state, and Regional Transportation Authority sales tax that - for Chicago residents - amounts to 10.25% One more reason to leave Illinois
LOL
"Looks like we'll be driving to work in reverse as much as possible."
I liked that.
Let the games begin! I predict the beginning of the end for the democ"RATS"!!! You have a maximum of 2 (TWO) more years until an all out war begins to disentrench the democ"RATS" and eradicate them completely from illannoy!!!
Road tax? What does the city do with the money they already collect? The city and state haven't fixed a viaduct road or bridge in years. Look at the crumgling shit at archer and wester, been that way for fifty years.. Instead of using tax dollars on non contributors do something for the tax payer.
Charge Pritzker by the pound and Illinois can build some new bridges.
Current Illinois motor fuel tax is .19 for unleaded and .22 for diesel. I drive an older crown vic, 17 gallons a tank at .19 is 3.23$ tax per tank. I drive approximately 300 miles on this tank which would replace my 3.23 tax with 6.30$ tax per tank based on milage tax. Those with high efficiency cars will see their taxes at least quadruple. May be it's time to go electric.
my primary residence is up for sale! bye, bye: Tax Payers of Illinois.....
Aren’t we taxed for driving the toll roads already?wow!
I hope the people of Illinois are ready for some big changes coming from these newly elected idiots!
The technology is here. You could use GPS to track mileage so going out of state would not cause road trips to be logged and counted against you. That said do you want the state to know where and when you are driving? On the plus side, it would create job opportunities for certain connected vendors and firms to manage the system. I can remember when the politicians in Springfield said the toll ways were going to be "free" after paying off the bonds. Now there is talk of selling them for some quick "parking meter" cash. I'm sure investors will find the roads attractive as long as they can keep jacking up the rates.
Land of the free
Why do democrats love taxes so much??!
Fuck this place
FYI any additional program or after market non oem is attached to a vehicle is direct violation of epa.
Politicians will say anything to get them elected.
Once in, they immediately revert to their agenda.
Maybe it’s time to start renting these cars fail to pay keep them for 90 days like the thugs do and wait til they get reported
Stolen . Dump the car after the 90 and rent a new one . Has been working well for them.
Old days at Traffic Court.
One after another-all the people coming in with speeding tickets in one hand...
And receipts for just repaired speedometers in the other.
Most got fined unless they had one of several hallway hustling shitball lawyers ”representing” them.
Retired, 30+
Anonymous said...
Check your math SCC. $0.021 is 2.1 cents per mile.
Someone want to help this CPS graduate out? Please?
“Anonymous Anonymous said...
They can find out when you leave the State with GPS as that's how they keep track of the miles driven AND YOU. Welcome to the start of the dystopian world of socialism where the government follows you and controls you. In Sweden the people are agreeing to be embedded with chips which contain all their personal information which they can use to ride a train, get healthcare, charge things. The government knows your every step. Some companies here are starting this. So think about this, maybe sometime down the road the government doesn't like you or your politics. Now they can cut you off via your chip. No healthcare, no charging, no gas, no train ride. The politicians are brilliant. George Orwell's 1984 is here now. And how about those Swedes, they must be pretty naive to go along with this, but then again they let all those third world migrants into their country and the migrants are destroying the country.”
***
The chips will bemanufactured by a political friend of the fat man and made in China of inferior quality like everything thing else from that country.
It won’t work for long.
But will probably start your car on fire🔥!
O/t
Ive seen very little about it but it seems jaba the hut is goibg to double his cabinets salary out of his own pocket. I can not see how this is ethical or legal. So one of. His cabinet sees an illegal act by jb , do you think they will turn him in. No way. It would halve tgeir salary.
Aren’t we taxed for driving the toll roads already?wow!
. . . and for license plate renewal stickers
"Looks like we'll be driving to work in reverse as much as possible."
sounds like "Sonny" the Chazz Palminteri character from Bronx Tale
Anonymous said...
Check your math SCC. $0.021 is 2.1 cents per mile.
Someone want to help this CPS graduate out? Please?
LOL.......see what the "new" math does to people.
It is time for a revolution in this state and country.
Maybe we should tax people by the pound. JB would be able to clear Il of it's debt
"Check your math SCC. $0.021 is 2.1 cents per mile."
Ok, not a nickel to get to Indiana border... I'll owe them two bits... That's 25 cents for you youngsters out there....
F....it am a gonna get my salf a Texas one-trip permit, register on some bogus address in Nebraska, sr-22, and I’m golden. :)
Ok, so they are replacing a 19 cent per gallon tax with 2.1 cent per mile. That means that everyone with better with better than 9 mpg gas mileage will pay more. The more efficient the car, the more you will pay.
How in the fuck does anyone vote democrat these days!
The state does not have to install a meter to enact a mileage tax. It will just subtract your mileage from your previous environmental test from your next environmental test. Ok Mr. SO and SO, as soon as you pay us $600 for your previous two years of mileage, we will pass your vehicle on its inspection. Don't have the money? Oh, too bad. No inspection certificate, no license plate renewal. Watch out for those Chicago ticket writers in green, two tickets and your car will be booted and towed to Daley & Vanecko impound lot.
I've seen this done in other places. You report your odometer reading with your yearly registration. When you sell you car, there is final odometer reading required and they check to see if you've been cheating.
No worries guys and girls hot wheels dealer which is located at Cicero will sell you Texas or Indiana trp for $150.00 and if it expires they will gladly “renew it”. Get that shady sr-22 and nobody will never know about your car.
FLEE! FLEE! FLEE!.....Its Tennessee Tuxedo!!!
Check YouTube for instructions on changing odometers on new cars. With a cheap programmer and a bit of time, you can make the odometer say whatever you want. I'm thinking this might make a nice side hustle for some less ethical car shops.
Read the whole bill before jumping to conclusions. You would think this room was full of bunch of people who enforce laws for a living. The bill allows for people with approved vehicles to apply to pay an alternative tax IN LIEU OF the standard .19 cents they currently do.
This is the only way that they can collect road tax from electric cars.....it's actually a good idea. EXCEPT how do they get the out of state cars to pay the tax......???.
Anonymous said...
FYI any additional program or after market non oem is attached to a vehicle is direct violation of epa.
2/17/2019 12:46:00 PM
Really???? Tell that to the insurance companies.......with their phone connected driving app...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey, let’s make the bullet tax, bottled water tax, and a renewed soda tax statewide.
2/17/2019 06:36:00 AM
First, let Mayor Prickwinkle re-establish the soda tax for Chicagoans....(Only if their income is greater than $25K a year.) PLUS, sales of spray paint will be allowed with a $5 per can tax....Unless the buyer makes less than $25K a year, then no tax.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The state does not have to install a meter to enact a mileage tax. It will just subtract your mileage from your previous environmental test from your next environmental test. Ok Mr. SO and SO, as soon as you pay us $600 for your previous two years of mileage, we will pass your vehicle on its inspection. Don't have the money? Oh, too bad. No inspection certificate, no license plate renewal. Watch out for those Chicago ticket writers in green, two tickets and your car will be booted and towed to Daley & Vanecko impound lot.
2/17/2019 05:36:00 PM
Might work if they can prove you purchased all your gas and did all your driving in Illinois.
I find it unconscionable that certain politicians with a "D" after their name seem to get their rocks off by creating new taxes.
Never underestimate the Democrats will to raise taxes.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If anyone really believes that they will replace the existing gas tax with the per mile tax I have a bridge for sale.
2/17/2019 03:26:00 AM
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So, Shortshanks is reading this blog too....
Just another reason I'm so glad I left Illinois. They don't have this shit in Texas. Where I live now I have to pay $70/yr for a city sticker (Chicago cost me $139.48),a savings of $69/yr. No state sticker (a savings of $101). No tax on groceries. No state tax. They don't tax my pension. Over all city tax rate in Chicago is 10.25%. Texas, 8.25%. Life is good!
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