Corruption at the Airport?
- Chicago firefighters assigned to O’Hare and Midway Airports will be re-trained under a new commander, thanks to an ongoing federal investigation into allegations that “unqualified personnel” were staffing specialty rigs assigned to air rescue.
“The FAA made an inquiry about certain circumstances related to training and certification. As we looked at it in response to the FAA inquiry, we resolved that there were some issues there,” Mayor Lori Lightfoot told reporters at City Hall.
“As a consequence, the individual who was in charge of that training was replaced by someone else.”
Lori, it's going to take years (and not a little amount of balls) to actually clean up the stink at the airports. Burke has treated these city assets as his own personal playground, assigning people there for years based solely on phone calls. And now the feds want an accounting - literally and figuratively - of how money is being spent.
You ought to cooperate and just give them Burke to waterboard.
You ought to cooperate and just give them Burke to waterboard.
Labels: corruption, fire fighters, scandals
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
60 Comments:
Bravo FAA! I don't want a connected fuck within
50 feet of my burning airplane.
FYI the assignments at the airport for officers and firefighters are done by a seniority basis.
The CFD don’t have spots put aside for phone calls.
Shouldn’t Eric Carter have made issue of this considering it’s under his command?
Notice the pos had to add CPD to the article. Why? Oh right, slam LEO's whenever possible. Slum times showing their true stupid bias.
There are people that have spent most of , or their whole careers at O’Hare. While other firefighters are humping tough parts of the city, the clouted make the same salary for doing little. It’s just wrong.
Ah, open the books.
Let’s see who’s where by just phone calls in every unit.
Anonymous said...
FYI the assignments at the airport for officers and firefighters are done by a seniority basis.
The CFD don’t have spots put aside for phone calls.
9/25/2019 12:22:00 AM
**Oh bullshit...what fucking hole did you climb out of??? How does someone with 10 yrs on the job get a position at the airport? It wasn't by fucking luck. Dont bullshit us.
nonymous said...
There are people that have spent most of , or their whole careers at O’Hare. While other firefighters are humping tough parts of the city, the clouted make the same salary for doing little. It’s just wrong.
9/25/2019 03:53:00 AM
** I agree, however it's like that throughout the whole city...and including HQ! Right after probation many get comfy spots where they never worked the street yet they are called the police? Why waste time going through the academy for a fucking desk spot? Or to just sit on their ass at the airport? makes no sense.
My double-promotion out here was Earned!
I worked 30 years on the CFD (Retired 2 years now thank GOD) I can tell you the poster @ 03:53 has no clue as to what he/she is talking about.
Take a hard look at the CPD Lieutenant overtime. No overtime allowed for POs. The increase in overtime compared from the last lieutenant to the current is unreal. Look it up, it's all accessible information.
Must be nice to be able to approve your own overtime. Definitely needs a look. Guess what, when you have 4 sgts here, you are not needed lieutenant.
Anonymous said...
FYI the assignments at the airport for officers and firefighters are done by a seniority basis.
The CFD don’t have spots put aside for phone calls.
9/25/2019 12:22:00 AM
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Can I interest you in a bridge that I have for sale? I think you would be the perfect person to buy it.
Let’s not just say the clout people are at the airports, they are everywhere if you’re connected you have a person a call you can get work wherever you wanna go you can do whatever you want any kind of infraction or crime and you get away with it simple as that it’s been going on since the inception of the police department and the fire department so what is new here. What happens to the boss nothing just gets moved around just like our boss for example the one that used Chicago police personnel for babysitting and being personal chauffeurs for his children. What about the so-called commander that thought he was dale Earnhardt going over 130 or so miles an hour refusing to stop for the Indiana State police nothing happened to him he got another new car he got moved he keeps his pension his job everything nothing happens but if it’s a hard-working blue shirt police officer that does anything wrong they will get hammered fired put in prison whatever.
“If we have to have a chief that’s specifically trained to operate our airports, then we need to put that chief in that position.”
Imagine if this ideology was applied in the CPD? In say something like the detective division? There may actually be a better clearance rate. Or better trained detectives. Not the lazy and incompetent crybabies that are spreading through the Bureau of Detectives.
Nah. It’s more important to play god and assign people because clout and phone calls rule this department.
The dumping of bosses can’t come soon enough. Not that it will change anything, but change of arrogant assholes is always a good thing.
Look at police LT overtime if you want to see corruption. Hey boss thanks for stopping in on midnights to see how we like the new station. I'm sure the city appreciated you checking on us and then hitting them for 3hrs OT. and why not stop by and stare at the plumbers for 100bucks an hour.
Wonder if your putting any more in the collection basket at St Tars, or just lining your own pocket. You are a joke.
The CFD don’t have spots put aside for phone calls.
9/25/2019 12:22:00 AM
HAHAHA now that's funny! A clouted
Anyone who wants to go to a so called busy house doesn’t go to the airport, it’s all Seniority-based for the firefighters and I believe the officers. A certain law suit group may have had a hard time keeping their certs up?
Not just phone calls but money changing hands as well. The Chicago Way in action.
Burke, what an asshole...........
To the CFD guy your dreaming sonny.
Seniority my ass. It will s all about the Benjamin’s and clout. Wake the fuck up.
How about the forty or so POS the airport pays for but are not around?
Have they ever saved anyone? Usually when they hit the ground it’s over and all that’s left is the NTSB to take a year to figure it out as to why. And no one cares except the lawyers.
IF I remember correctly...
I recall reading a story that a group of F/1's that applied for the CFD a long while back were disqualified as they could not pass the basic physical agility entrance exam.
They later sued, and the City bargained to give this large (no pun intended) group the option of a $$$ payout, or put them on the CFD with back pay AND seniority. Those that took the job, WITH BACK-FILLED SENIORITY, immediately bid to the airport(s) as they now had the time that qualified them to bid there right away even though their seniority was based on their time off between being cut from the CFD and the lawsuit.
Some were 50+ yoa, still unfit but they were able to successfully outbid those qualified, in shape but with less time (seniority) IN SERVICE.
Can't find original story. IF located, please post
Thanks
While other firefighters are humping tough parts of the city, the clouted make the same salary for doing little. It’s just wrong.
1St of all there are no tough parts of the city for CFD. Yes some places are busier but not tougher.Most of the calls now are ambulatory. 2nd most CFD guys would rather work in busy houses then quiet ones.
Interesting thought. At the AA 191 40th anniversary memorial May 25th there were two CFR rigs to do a water cannon salute at the conclusion of the event. The officer in charge gave the order to start and it took several minutes to get the water flowing. Not sure if that was inherent with how the nozzles operate but it appeared the officer was getting a bit upset and barking orders into his radio. Just an observation 😱
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Shouldn’t Eric Carter have made issue of this considering it’s under his command?
9/25/2019 01:09:00 AM
That's not how it works. There is no part of CFD that is under CPD command.
Roy....any relation to Eugene Roy?^ tv ct
It’s a driving on the airfield issue turned whistleblower.
Do CFD drivers get a higher pay scale than ordinary FF’s ?
Did the Chief get dumped for letting a low seniority untrained member get a pay bump for a driver job?
As I recall there’s a written airfield driver test that issues a stripe on the ID badge for airfield access.
Years ago CPD had a house rule the “most senior” Desk jockey was paid D-3 (by Contract) to fill in for a Desk Sgt.(what you kids now call a DSS. I’ll still call ‘m desk sergeants). Well, a grievance was lodged and the pay bump was actually limited to only “senior BID” Desk jocks, not the senior officer that’s silly-nilly assigned to the desk for the day, week etc.
Wonder if this CFD thing is the same sort or just flagrant Merit Boss phone call favoritism.
Chief (or someone below) dumped for letting someone drive (unauthorized) on the airfield is that subject to and punishable by FAA fine?
I don’t think anyone gets dumped from the airport just for that sole reason, there’s a more obvious message.
Guess that’s the penalty for driving a Hulk of an apparatus.
Now that the idiot misfit angry toad just dipped her webbed toes into the wide, wide world of municipal airport operations it means fundamentally transformation via 21st Century Reforms is a comin’ (reckoning) to ORD-MDW and it’s just getting warmed up.
Anonymous said...
FYI the assignments at the airport for officers and firefighters are done by a seniority basis.
The CFD don’t have spots put aside for phone calls.
9/25/2019 12:22:00 AM
I call bullshit. Knew a cook who got knifed by a fellow FF and he got to O'Hare. Speaking of wack, I can remember a brand new Sergeant who was married to a CFD bigshot getting out there real quick, right Lisa?
https://www.nbcchicago.com/investigations/aviation-coo-resigns-after-controversy-over-residency-561245621.html
Department of Aviation COO Resigns After Controversy Over Residency
You want to talk about necessary leadership changes? Look no further than CPD at OHare. The WORST. COMMANDER, lieutenant, and most sergeants are complete idiots.
corruption at Chicago's airports? no fucking way.
So we need the connected fucks to protect the airport
from a Lufthansa heist by the Mob?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
FYI the assignments at the airport for officers and firefighters are done by a seniority basis.
The CFD don’t have spots put aside for phone calls.
9/25/2019 12:22:00 AM
For your information only 50% of the CPD assignments at the airport are done by seniority
Accountability? Only when the Feds threaten withholding funds.
SlummTimes:
Nick Sposato (38th), a former Chicago firefighter, "disputes"
the claim. "All they do is train."
Train on what? Ellipticals, Pelotons? Weights?
Can Nicky Spo-Spo be trusted?
Is he going out on a double dip (Fire & Creature)?
I agree with 3:53 AM. Why not rotate these guys?
The 'Ports seem like a Country Club compared to the City.
Seems like a good place to "hide" guys.
Phantom employees anybody? Does the overnight crew
binge watch Netflix? You could get a "mail away" MBA out
there and nobody would know the difference (just like the
Air Force guys did who manned the Minuteman Missiles).
FYI the assignments at the airport for officers and firefighters are done by a seniority basis.
The CFD don’t have spots put aside for phone calls.
9/25/2019 12:22:00 AM
You don't actually believe that, do you? There are always "management" spots to be filled regardless of seniority.
Anonymous said...
There are people that have spent most of , or their whole careers at O’Hare. While other firefighters are humping tough parts of the city, the clouted make the same salary for doing little. It’s just wrong.
9/25/2019 03:53:00 AM
Your comment misses a very important fact. The firefighters assigned to the airports make premium pay and lots of OT at that premium rate because they must have special training and certification to man the equipment at the airport, special equipment. There comes the clout; you get and keep the assignment, make the big bucks and never get the certification. I don't know if Burke has had anything to do with this, but it is clout pure and simple. My question is where has the firefighters union been all along. They were supposed to protect their members from these type of things.
What kind of training?
Airplane training, sir.
Anonymous said...
Take a hard look at the CPD Lieutenant overtime. No overtime allowed for POs. The increase in overtime compared from the last lieutenant to the current is unreal. Look it up, it's all accessible information.
Must be nice to be able to approve your own overtime. Definitely needs a look. Guess what, when you have 4 sgts here, you are not needed lieutenant.
9/25/2019 06:21:00 AM
Better yet, look at Captain overtime. Most commanders do the bare minimum because they don't make OT, so they have their Captain do everything. There is a captain in the South side (the one who's wife shot him and then he led about it) that is making more money than a chief, all because his Commander works about 30 hours a week. FOIA that shit, it's all there.
Well you can always play the spin the wheel residencies game oops err maybe not:
https://www.nbcchicago.com/investigations/aviation-coo-resigns-after-controversy-over-residency-561245621.html
They are also looking at cps,Cpd, fire watch how many more dominos fall. With today’s computer system it’s easy to get caught and get immediately fired like some idiotic coppers in call currently waiting for the hammer to hit the nail. Stupid is as stupid does zero sympathy will not contribute to your fundraiser for being a dumbass!
X-Cuse-ME
Nick Sposato lobbied Illinois Legislature to get his
Aldercreature time rolled into his Fire time because
the Fire time is more valuable. At the time, he was
the only one. Now I hear one more Creatute will
qualify under this law.
When I interviewed for a Fed. Govt. job they asked
me if I had military service or worked as a mailman.
(I think they could tell "no" on both counts). Then,
they inform me that previous Govt. service would
count towards seniority.
This is called stacking. Only problem is, not everybody
gets it, and like everything else, there are abuses. At
one time there were no company pensions or 401(k)'s.
I wish I could get credit for every place I worked, but it
don't work like that in the real world. This is why you
have a pension crisis. You got double dippers and you
got roll overs.
Corruption at the airport? Maybe ask former alderman & Aviation commissioner Zalewski who is now spending time with family. 🥴
So I guess what he is saying is the airport CPD is A bunch of old has beens. Makes total sense to me.
Guess we can call the the Old But Highly Connected Brigade. Or better yet The old Hoses.
I love how the alderman has to throw in a shot about police failures, when this investigation is about fire.
Jeez and I thought the airports were on the up and up.
Play nice, boys.
Block Club of Chicago, 3-12-19
Ald. Sposato calls Ald. Ramirez-Rosa
'Pile Of Sh**' In Video Posted To Twitter.
Guys, you learned just about all you need to know
about human nature, psychology, and sociology
back in high school, but those were not formal courses.
"More is caught than taught."
So now we are here, people make big salaries and
pensions, and they still fight like teenagers.
So much for the end of the Machine...Lightfoot has joined forces with the Dark Side.
Lightfoot agrees to co-chair annual fundraiser for Democratic Party she campaigned against
Mayor calls it an ‘opportunity to build bridges’ to Toni Preckwinkle, the Democratic Party chairman and county board president, after some post-election feuding.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/city-hall/2019/9/23/20880431/lightfoot-preckwinkle-co-chair-fundraiser-cook-county-democratic-party
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Hey aldermen nick,why can’t your brother FF who worked for other city departments like SS get to buy those yrs into the fire fund?
This is a huge can of worms that has been opened. The FAA hasn’t decided on how much to fine the city and each individual involved. There was a whistleblower that had enough of the bs. Get the popcorn and watch.... we shall see where else people are going to fall.
FYI most of CFD doesn’t want to work at the airports. You get on the job you get sent there as a candidate. You get promoted you get sent there. Yes phone calls and emails are made for the special people.
Sit back and watch the bricks come tumbling down- we will see who is saving themselves or turning the right people in...
Lightfoot shooting for the governors mansion. Just wait and see.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey aldermen nick,why can’t your brother FF who worked for other city departments like SS get to buy those yrs into the fire fund?
9/26/2019 05:18:00
Probably because of pension laws. You expect to work in say the water department and then transfer that time into the fire pension fund. Doesn’t work like that That’s why it’s called the Fire Pension Fund
“Look at police LT overtime if you want to see corruption. Hey boss thanks for stopping in on midnights to see how we like the new station. I'm sure the city appreciated you checking on us and then hitting them for 3hrs OT...” @ 9/25/2019 07:12:00 AM
– Hmmmmm, I recall years and years ago that a busy body, snoop, shaky, chickenshit, yes-man, self serving, paranoid Lt from 025, (nicknamed Willie) used to do that with regularity, so now you know where your Lt learned that scam. Something certainly was in the water in 025 and now 050 also has its share of the Curse with shaky ass kisser Sgts. bowing to this goof like they did as PO’s.
Carry on.
This all sounds fishy. Corruption has been completely rooted out in Chicago. I just watched The Untouchables the other day.
0518am>was the alderman's fund part of the fire pension fund? pension laws get changed for the clouted not for the regular guy.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
0518am>was the alderman's fund part of the fire pension fund? pension laws get changed for the clouted not for the regular guy.
9/27/2019 02:16:00 PM
Fire fund and alderman fund are completely separate. I’m sure the move was made to benefit his situation.
If Alderman Burke goes to prison will I have to give his Christmas cards back that I received over the years?
Clout does not get you the airport. The airport sucks. You ask any guy who works in the city limits that has to take a detail there for a shift and they aren’t happy. The guys who drive the crash rigs are engineers. It’s a tested position. They aren’t getting extra pay for their FAA training. There’s constant openings out there because no one wants to work there which gives those guys assigned the opportunity for overtime. You’ll find that same overtime downtown. Any training given there is required by the FAA to work there. There aren’t pay bumps for any of that training. CFD is opposite of CPD in regards to working the ghettos. If you’re not a stud in the academy, you end up downtown, ohare, or another slower spot. Takes years to bid to get a busy spot.
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