Swiping Arriving
And the FOP says just go with the flow until (A) someone gets harmed or (B) some judge or labor board issues an injunction.
The order (click for larger version):
The FOP reply:
- Today, the Department released its final order and will implement Employee Resource E02-03-04 with an effective date of 30 September 2019.
Our attorneys will file an Unfair Labor Practice with the Illinois Labor Relations Board tomorrow as the City refused to negotiate with the Lodge over the impact of this order on our members.
Members should comply with this order on its effective date and continue to comply until the Labor Board issues a decision.
Which means a whole lot of nothing.
Labels: department issues, FOP
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
171 Comments:
Swipe deezzz nutz
I have never swiped & never will!!!!
F(L)OP 7 = Weak.
The question I want answered is how the department plans to comply with the FLSA mandate of overtime compensation for hours worked over 40 in a 168 hour (7 day) period. For example, those in day off group 61 had two weeks in August that 45 hours were worked. Now that's going based off 9 hours. If you go off of 8.5 hours it's 42.5. Federal law states we are owed overtime compensation. The FLSA even goes so far as to name Police, Fire, and other first responders as NOT exempt from this. It also further states that collective bargaining agreements may enhance but not diminish this provision. Just Google FLSA overtime exemptions.
ill get that second coffee later on and step into some shit...$$$$$$$$$
So we are now hourly employees. We should get paid every week or bi weekly.
so punch out at check off....we are salaried. it just makes sure we didnt go home right after roll call. hope the supervisors are on the same page.......could be some problems......
So tell me again sarge how I’ll be taken care of because I didn’t get my lunch today? All freebies are off the table. Does this mean all the desk jockies, Holman Square units, D-Units, and all specialized units now have to work a full day when swiping in and out? Don’t get caught swiping someone in or out! The Department/City would love to make an example of someone! There are going to be some very unhappy captains and lieutenants.
i feel with all this extra training and tools, our job description has expanded without compensation. Now we have our union. nice guys, but absent. I will consult my own legal counsel and bill fop. wake up!
The only thing that the FLOP is going to is its famous letters. We keep hearing this In the meetings. Wtf is a letter going to do. They ate bending over and taking it with out lube. We need someone with balls. We Need a change.
what time is it? its time for lunch!
2 personals....
What happens if I continue to NOT swipe? Do we face any kind of discipline if we don’t?
Ok, first I’m perfectly fine with working the full tour that I’m being paid for. Many have been doing it for a long time and that’s what we’re paid for. BUT, as we all know the Chicago Police Department has different rules for the connected or special people. If it’s not connected to payroll THEN THE CONNECTED AND SPECIAL will continue to break the rules.(few even swiped in) Everyone knows how this works on the CPD. IT HAS TO BE THE SAME FOR EVERY EMPLOYEE! It can’t just apply to the “anus” of the department, the beat patrol cop. Capts Lts, Sgt’s, Tact, CAPS, Detectives, etc. If others are excluded, it’s an unfair labor act. Problem is, if it’s not connected to payroll, then the leadership will only enforce it on the unconnected. Everyone else will scam. This is a continued set up for the tradition of selective enforcement if it’s not tied to payroll. I encourage everyone to make notes of who goes to the swipe clock regardless of rank, and keep records. If a Lt attempts to discipline you, you need records because we all know they won’t be swiping out. Fair is fair, right? We all work the same shift, right? Hahahahaha. This is the perfect storm for creating total division and outrage. If city hall really knew how the CPD worked they would connect in directly to payroll. Watch and document everything. Challenge them about the honesty of who will REALLY have to swipe out. Good luck.
When those teachers go on strike I’m putting in for family leave!
FOP orginally said not to swipe out at all. After speaking with their attorneys, who advised them that the labor board would not look to kindly at that practice, they changed their tone. Regardless, the labor board will never side with the union on this one. The contract already says members are required to work a 9 hr day and swiping in is just a function of that requirement. Sorry folks, this one is here to stay and just wait until it's actually tied into payroll. Then it will really be time to go...
No, this means if you have a scratchy throat, you stay home! You take two personals and a lunch every night. You don’t eat in hospitals on details. If you’re a minute past seven minutes over, waiting in line to swipe, you fill out OT. Play their game. It’s a union factory shop now!
The only people that care about swiping out are the corrupt and entitled. I have no problem with it but IT HAS TO BE THE SAME FOR ALL! Supervisors must swipe too! No more covering for each other. The(laughable)consent decree says “supervisors must lead by example.” In the name of transparency I would like to see the swipe report for each unit posted on the unit wall. I know it will never happen. Corruption will continue.
Really? Everyone? That’s funny. Tact CAPS Supervisors? Please. They don’t even swipe in. Different rules for different folks will be at an all time high. When the double standard is in your face give them ZEROS. Don’t let them lie to you. Document everything. When it’s time for the desk crew and Lts to leave stand by the desk and make notes of who swiped out. Copy the sheets.
If we stick together like New York There should be a big memory lapse in how to identify reasonable suspicion
How about nobody swipe until it’s in our fucking contract
FOP elected members, you will be voted out next election. Guaranteed.
If Citry is making us hourly enployees then by Il labor laws we get overtime after 40 hours every work week! Sunday to Saturday. Our FOP lawyers suck!
Everybody, right?
HQ bench warmers too.
I want the overtime for every day I stay late now!
Now it is all documented!
What is the FOP advising for desk personnel? They are never able to get lunch and personals where they can leave the desk. They try to eat up there but still have to answer phones and deal with walk ins. If they make them stay, then FOP better tell them that they should leave the desk area for the entire lunch and personals. Same goes for the desk sgt. Imagine if he walked away for a half hour or a full hour a day while on lunch and personals? How’s this going to work?
The issue becomes what will happen if you DON’T swipe out.
The city will surely punish you in the form of SPAR/Suspension, but the problem is that the punishment they dole out has neither been negotiated or agreed upon.
Of course the city can tell us to swipe out, but they just don’t get to put a new system in place out of the blue, and then arbitrarily get to dole out punishment for not following it. That punishment should be delineated at the time the swiping tajes effect, not later.
But why would we expect our union to go to bat for us?
In theory, none of us should be swiping until the punishment t for failure to adhere to the policy is determined.
Body cameras aren’t in the contract. How about no BWC until it’s in the contract?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How about nobody swipe until it’s in our fucking contract
So friggin' swipe in and out every shift once you are Done.
IF Sgt or Higher Rank wants you to stay later to finish up something, put in a slip.
Make them refuse you the OT to finish that GOA or TVB or what the F ever that you happened to catch 25 minutes before your watch ends. Then you have them cut and dried and even FlOP can't ignore it.
Don't do shit for free.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If Citry is making us hourly enployees then by Il labor laws we get overtime after 40 hours every work week! Sunday to Saturday. Our FOP lawyers suck!
9/25/2019 03:11:00 AM
I get OT after 35 hours.
I truly love the part of the order which states that if we are given a LATE JOB THAT MAY GO INTO OVERTIME, THE JOB MUST BE APPROVED BY A SUPERVISOR FIRST BEFORE YOU ARE ALLOWED TO TAKE IT!!! Wow, wonder how many supervisors balls will be flapping in the wind when overtime is approved and they have to explain why. Oh well, its the price you pay when you want to wear a white shirt nowadays.
01:26......where do you and others get that “2 personal” crap? Have you ever read the general orders? Check them out sometime. According to the order on Payroll and Timekeeping, you may take ONE 15 minute personal if approved by a supervisor. There has NEVER been a provision for two. Knowledge is power!
How about nobody swipe until it’s in our fucking contract
How about you are a dummy!! This is not a contractual issue
They use 2 say, "Eight 4 Eight", did something change?
FLSA......
Take all your personals and your lunch.
Don’t swipe til you are dressed and walking out !
We are hourly wage earners now.
Anonymous said...
so punch out at check off....we are salaried. it just makes sure we didnt go home right after roll call. hope the supervisors are on the same page.......could be some problems......
9/25/2019 12:38:00 AM
We're not salaried. Those yellow slips for OT or taking time say otherwise. In the real world if you are a salaried employee you don't get OT, you work until the project/job is done, and you come in on Saturday if need be with no extra pay. All you morons who've never worked in the private sector should STFU.
I always love how people post comments without first reading the order. The commander can exempt anyone he wants from having to swipe. The commander also will get a report of the swiping so he can do what he wants with the information. Of course the special people will be covered and still allowed to do whatever they want.
And swipe out at your unit of assignment.....not the one closest to your house. And all the people/folks that are late or absent everyday will come up with all the b.s. excuses.....card doesn't work, machine broke, I swiped....don't know why it wasn't recorded, the dog ate my homework....blah blah blah.
Wouldn't it be interesting if the media requested a list of all the names and positions of the officers and supervisors that will be "Exempt" from swiping?
Learn a little labor law before you start babbling. The City can make us swipe in and out. It’s here to stay. We’re not that special.
But you’re right - it better be for all...
Surely you have a strip of sandpaper at home......
All the complaining on the blog in the stations, means absolutely nothing we are going to swipe in and out and the people with the bullshit talk that they’re going to go to later rest to many of them that would be their first arrest, also the one saying they’re going to make that late night traffic stop what would that be your first traffic stop? The bottom line is the employer is the city of Chicago we have no confidence in us from the text being public or very little bit of confidence due to the Democrats bastardizing us and the news media slanting us at every turn.
The union can do nothing about this it is simple as that we can complain all we want we will be swiping in and swiping out at the required times many of us that get the early breaks the early ducks for getting an arrest especially young coppers the so-called go-getters did ask stupidly chasing the idiots getting in trouble themselves will be thinking about it next time.
I'm swiping with a credit card size refrigerator magnet
Our attorneys are on it...don’t forget to sign up for next years picnic.
There’s a line at the treadmill.
One thing I know for sure is that this will bring morale to an all time low. The city and the department have played a lot of games in my 20 plus years on this job but nothing that impacts people's life as much as this. It's going to be interesting to see how the affected will show their displeasure.
I wish the FOP had some balls. Tell us NOT to swipe until it’s negotiated. Why play by their rules, fuck them. We hold the power, just like the teachers and the janitors at schools, the ones who will actually strike. Give them nothing until swiping ends. It’s just that simple.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The question I want answered is how the department plans to comply with the FLSA mandate of overtime compensation for hours worked over 40 in a 168 hour (7 day) period. For example, those in day off group 61 had two weeks in August that 45 hours were worked. Now that's going based off 9 hours. If you go off of 8.5 hours it's 42.5. Federal law states we are owed overtime compensation. The FLSA even goes so far as to name Police, Fire, and other first responders as NOT exempt from this. It also further states that collective bargaining agreements may enhance but not diminish this provision. Just Google FLSA overtime exemptions.
There is also a provision in the order that exempt members can submit a to-from listing personnel who they believe should be exempt from swiping in and out. You know the clouted are already on a list submitted the superintendent.
The order also states that swiping in and out is for the transparency. So the FOP should FOIA the list of people that will be exempt from swiping in and out and the reason they should be exempt from swiping in and out. I’m all for transparency
This shit is everywhere. McDonalds CEO Steve Easterbrook
is taking heat from franchisees over the high
cost of his robo-vision future for the chain. He wants
(among other things) license plate readers installed so the
chain can remember your ordering history.
No big deal?
70% of Mickey's revenue comes from the drive thru.
Since this applies to ALL Department Members I am sure Special Ed is going to be swiping in and out each day as will his driver. Might make for an interesting FOIA Request in a couple of months.
Why wouldn’t the union advise us to not do it and force the issue? When some cooper says don’t do it is one thing, it’s different when you can fall back on the union had advised me not to. Why would the union essentially state “this shouldn’t be allowed the city can’t do this BUT do it until we figure something out”?
I remember years ago swiping out in a police station and chatting with the desk guy. We see this staggering drunk with a nose full of snot just teetering next to the box till it hit 3:25 PM and he swipes and staggers out to his illegally parked car. Guy says he's here every day.
Just like you weren't an hourly employee when you completed a yellow slip for ot. You still arent an hourly employee when you swipe in and out.
Late arrest every day!
The Desk Dollies will never have to do it.
From reading these comments, I can see that Lightfoot is accomplishing what she set out to do, which is divide us even more. Now is not the time to start eating our own, now is the time to unite. We need to stop finger pointing on who has more wack than who. Let's watch each others backs and stand united on a plan to fuck over Lightfoot as based as she wants to fuck over us.
This is gonna be like Obama Care.....
“A COMPLETE AND TOTAL DISASTER...”
When are they going to move the machines upstairs in the 20th district? They wanna make everything so comfortable for these civilians that come in and swipe
So here is the bigger problem and it needs to get to the media, the public and those monitoring the consent decree. I can only speak for districts that have the 9 hr work day. There is 1 1/2 hour difference between start and end of tours from watch to watch for example 3rd watch early start is 1400-2300 and late 3rd watch start is 1530-0030 and early midnights starts at 2100 with late midnight start being 2230 and not to mention approximately 20 minutes for roll call. With this being said we are very short of cars we will need and extra 10-15 actual cars per district because this is what is going to happen...there are not enough cars for everyone and every day so either the oncoming watch or outgoing watch is going to have 12-16 officers just standing around in the station for an hour and half waiting to swipe out. Both 3rd watch start times will be on the street and no officers from midnights will have cars for their tour as they will be waiting an hour and half in station. We have already been told to just hang out in the gym or somewhere in the station for an hour and half. How do you think the taxpayers are going to like 12-16 officers getting paid full salary just standing around doing nothing. I'll be calling fox news to make them aware of it. FOP YOU NEED TO PUT THIS OUT THERE SEVERAL TIMES.
Let me take a wild guess, the FOP has put the department on notice again. Useless Union!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What happens if I continue to NOT swipe? Do we face any kind of discipline if we don’t?
9/25/2019 12:55:00 AM
Maybe you should start by reading the order.
I work in a tact unit. My brother works in a saturation team. We will NOT BE SWIPING OUT.
In other words we will make our one arrest for the day and a couple of isr's and then go home early. We work hard and we play hard. Hahahaha.
The FLOP is covering it's rear so the CityState of Chicago can't file a ULP against the Union. All you hardheads who won't swipe are gonna get written up for violating Dept. directive, and have NO defense, since the Directive is LEGAL until ruled otherwise by ILRB or the courts. Don't worry your pretty little heads about who's not swiping, follow the rules, get paid, no dings.
Swipe deezzz nutz
I have never swiped & never will!!!!
9/25/2019 12:12:00 AM
If we have to swipe in and out then cool. But I will be keeping a record of who swipes out and who is present and who is not.
I want every single member to both swipe in to work and swipe out.
Dont bring the vehicles in, stay on the street. Make groot buy more...
Sure I'm swiping. In line right behind Little Lori,
Preckwinkle, Foxxx.
Swiping is a form of surveillance. You cannot be
forced to testify against yourself. Get the lawyers
on this.
I'm so mad I'm bleeding from my eyes, just like Joe Biden.
You have stolen my childhood with your lies and empty words.
Shame on you!
Blogger Anonymous said...
FOP orginally said not to swipe out at all. After speaking with their attorneys, who advised them that the labor board would not look to kindly at that practice, they changed their tone. Regardless, the labor board will never side with the union on this one. The contract already says members are required to work a 9 hr day and swiping in is just a function of that requirement. Sorry folks, this one is here to stay and just wait until it's actually tied into payroll. Then it will really be time to go...
9/25/2019 01:23:00 AM
No problem swiping but it has to be forced on every one. Caps Tact House mice and every supervisor must also swipe. We all know that supervisors won’t swipe and they will protect the special people. This is SOP on the CPD. Anyone with a little time knows how this will work.
Why doesn’t unit 191 have to swipe in and out according to their lieutenant?
Swipe deezzz nutz
I have never swiped & never will!!!!
9/25/2019 12:12:00 AM.
You will when you pay check fails to arrive
Anonymous Anonymous said...
FOP elected members, you will be voted out next election. Guaranteed.
9/25/2019 02:49:00 AM
EVERYONE who voted themselves a pay raise in the term are/should be gone. Especially Rick Aguilar and Pat Murray who are BOTH taking a full FOP salary and their pension check.
Or What?
They appear to be talking out of both sides of their mouth: it’s not connected to payroll then closing with that it is connected to payroll.
Typical city bullshit and typical weak FOP response.
Anonymous said...
So tell me again sarge how I’ll be taken care of because I didn’t get my lunch today? All freebies are off the table. Does this mean all the desk jockies, Holman Square units, D-Units, and all specialized units now have to work a full day when swiping in and out? Don’t get caught swiping someone in or out! The Department/City would love to make an example of someone! There are going to be some very unhappy captains and lieutenants.
9/25/2019 12:39:00 AM
Actually the Capts and Lts won’t be unhappy because they won’t be swiping out. This is not connected to payroll so it’s only going to be subject to enforcement by the white shirts themselves. Does anyone really believe supervisors will discipline other supervisors or their friends? Please. The consent decree mandates supervisors must lead by example so everyone should do as they do not as they say.
Will they bring the swipe machine to the hospital when some scum ball puts you there and you can't swipe out for hours sfter ypur shift or do you get overtime for emerbency services? Is that why groot visits the hospitsl to help you swipe out?
This city is insane. As a non LEO even I understand this is stupid for the job. You aleady have time clocks. Are they paying the difference between swipe and time clock punch?
Some companies use this to determine building access and who's in the building in case of emergency. However, this makes no s3nse if you swipe out at end of shift and not when leaving the building. I don't trust this city.
Anonymous said...
The question I want answered is how the department plans to comply with the FLSA mandate of overtime compensation for hours worked over 40 in a 168 hour (7 day) period. For example, those in day off group 61 had two weeks in August that 45 hours were worked. Now that's going based off 9 hours. If you go off of 8.5 hours it's 42.5. Federal law states we are owed overtime compensation. The FLSA even goes so far as to name Police, Fire, and other first responders as NOT exempt from this. It also further states that collective bargaining agreements may enhance but not diminish this provision. Just Google FLSA overtime exemptions.
I’ll tell you how they’re going to handle it they’re going to say fuck you &do what they want and if you want ,take me to court!! by that time you’ll be out of money out time and it won’t be worth it it’s what they always do
Correct me if I’m wrong, but when your RDOs (4 - 2 schedule) falls on Wednesday/Thursday or Tuesday/Wednesday, you will be working 5 days that work week. 8.5hrs x 5 = 42.5hrs. That’s 4hrs of ot right there.
Will retirees have to swipe?
Management rights. Losing argument for the FOP
Hey FOP how about grow a pair of balls and instead of putting out a bellyup rollover letter telling us to comply, how about stand up to this dumb troll mayor and tell us to NOT comply. As this is NOT in our contract and just like you said, it has not been negotiated yet. Just like the body cameras, NOT in our contract. We dont even HAVE a contract. Play THAT angle. Play the contract angle. We will NOT comply, until a contract has been agreed upon. The city fucks us at every turn. Why roll over? This will not save any money. If will COST money if anything. Is mayor turd going to buy more vehicles and tasers and radios to supply the entire watch that will be sitting around for hours on their asses doing nothing waiting to swipe, cause we had to turn everything over to the next watch. If you morons dont start getting tough rest assured you will be gone very soon. Swiping out doesnt work. Never has, never will. Unless your a mon-fri hq desk turd with no relief watch.
So Sgts who get an extra half hour everyday should actually have to earn that and swipe out for it
Anonymous said...
No, this means if you have a scratchy throat, you stay home! You take two personals and a lunch every night. You don’t eat in hospitals on details. If you’re a minute past seven minutes over, waiting in line to swipe, you fill out OT. Play their game. It’s a union factory shop now!
9/25/2019 01:26:00 AM
Read your G.O.'s, you only get A personal (as in one), nowhere in there does it say two. I got jammed on this and was written up by inspector.
Overtime after 40 hrs. and no admin CO overrides (tampering) ?
The Management appreciates your keeping the Patrol activity numbers coming in until this Order is ironed (eye-rond) out.
BTW, will the Citywide Review Officers Benevolent Association be holding a benefit and what are they going to do with all those recliner sofas in the Review/Citation Offices?
How bout in 019 district??
Does the Superintendent and big bosses know that some asshole changed our start time on 1st watch from 2100 to 2130 lies and told us it was till 5th period.
Lies and bullshit. So what do we need to say till 063 to swipe out?
Only district in City????
Of course if you're in Tact or any other 'special unit' that was EXEMPT from swiping at all, nothing changes. This is sure to raise morale.
Do we get paid to wait in line to swipe in and out not enough machines!
Anonymous said...
How about nobody swipe until it’s in our fucking contract
9/25/2019 02:25:00 AM
Don't Swipe you will win the grievance with back pay not in the contract!
I am curious to see how this plays out in OCD. I see a certain Lt. down there attempting to justify why his unit should be exempt because they walk around concerts and football games and there are no swipe machines, the funny thing is they think make a difference. The run may be over for these entitled few.
Since when did we become hourly employees????
I'll swipe out when I normally leave daily. There aren't even cars to drive to stay on the street 9 hours . This city is a joke
the Time and Attendance Swiping Program will not be used to produce payroll or the accumulation/deduction of contractual time off. Paychecks or the management of a member's contractual time will not be determined by information derived from the swiping program.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
2 personals....
9/25/2019 12:47:00 AM
What part of the contract did u find saying u get 2 personals ?
So tell me again sarge how I’ll be taken care of because I didn’t get my lunch today? All freebies are off the table. Does this mean all the desk jockies, Holman Square units, D-Units, and all specialized units now have to work a full day when swiping in and out? Don’t get caught swiping someone in or out! The Department/City would love to make an example of someone! There are going to be some very unhappy captains and lieutenants.
9/25/2019 12:39:00 AM
If you're denied a lunch, you get paid for it. If you choose not to take a lunch and then cry about how you didn't get one, you're shit out of luck. And it's HOMAN square, rookie. Keep using personals to eat so you can "save" your lunch, and then miss your chance for taking your actual lunch, and see if your complaining gets you any sympathy.
Really? Everyone? That’s funny. Tact CAPS Supervisors? Please. They don’t even swipe in. Different rules for different folks will be at an all time high. When the double standard is in your face give them ZEROS. Don’t let them lie to you. Document everything. When it’s time for the desk crew and Lts to leave stand by the desk and make notes of who swiped out. Copy the sheets.
9/25/2019 01:50:00 AM
Don't you have a job to do? Is playing hall monitor by the swiping clock part of that job? Are you going to take a personal to stand there and take your notes? Maybe you could use your lunch for wasting your time documenting what's already being documented by the fucking machine. It records the time each person swipes in and out. Why do you think your notes will mean anything? Are you planning on staying when someone else is on OT to make sure they swipe out at the right time? The desk crew starts before you. Are you going to come in early to make sure they all swipe in on time? Concern yourself with shit that you can actually control, and let someone else worry about who swipes and when. You're going to give yourself a heart attack if you try to keep track of when everyone swipes in and out. Worry about yourself. Make sure you swipe in and out at the right time every day. We wouldn't want someone taking notes of your swipe times like you plan on doing to others.
I'm still swiping out after roll call. Not tied to payroll who cares
I’d love it if it were tied to payroll but Swiping will never be legit unless it is. Otherwise the supervisors and special people will still scam. We need some investigative reporters to do a FOIA and request all the swipe reports to see who’s doing it and who’s not.
How about nobody swipe until it’s in our fucking contract
9/25/2019 02:25:00 AM
That's not how it works here. The city violates the contract whenever they want. Then it's up to your union to call them on it and fix the problem. Guess what happens though? The union caves and the city gets away with whatever the fuck they want. It's always been like this and it will continue to be like this until the end of time. If you choose not to swipe, they'll release their report of who isn't swiping as required, and then you get a SPAR, and eventually some nice suspension time. But hey, at least you don't have to swipe when you're serving that suspension time.
Let's face it. No matter what your lot in life, plumber or
professional, they want to reduce us all to working for
General Motors on the line. Punch in, punch out, pee
on your lunch break. Just like 'Car Wash.' Keep those
lines and machines hummin'. I saw C.W. and said to
myself, that's my job, only with water. And the boss(es)
are always distant, not on site, and don't do what you do.
They may have in the past, then you hear they lasted
maybe 3 or 4 years before they were "overqualified"
and got kicked into management. WTF? They all look
the same. Business casual with haircuts booked months
in advance so they got that TV anchorman look. It's a
uniform, a persona. Totally plastic. One day back for a
full 8 or pulling 12 on OT and they would shit their pants.
I had an issue in which an FOP lawyer was consulted. He said to me, " dont you know an exempt that could take care of that for you..? Useless!
I guess cake and coffee is now over. Must now be done during the last hours clock. Since I work afternoons, I will see all of you at 10pm
What happens if I miss my lunch? Oh you’ll assign my lunch time. What happens if I get a call before that? Get a paper job, take it to the station, and never go down on lunch but either eat something quick at the station or pick something up on the way back to the station if I can. Or fuck it, do my paper AT my lunch location without going down on lunch. If I don’t pull the event # for it, guess I’ll have to submit my online overtime slip of Ot to compensate for it. Thanks Lori for the bountiful OT opportunities i can finally receive. Clearnet just makes it easier to grieve if a SGT or LT doesn’t approve it so hahahahahaha
This comment made me seriously laugh out loud....
“All you morons who've never worked in the private sector should STFU.”
Sir, I do believe that if you had a job in the private sector, and left it for a simple city job, then that would indeed make YOU the moron.
I hope there is a lot of malicious compliance with this and the city suddenly finds that it's paying more overtime because literally nothing is done off the clock anymore.
What's the 1st watch Cry baby Lt in 025 gonna do? No more 3 hr days! You better go running to the wife and Riccio to figure it out
We're not salaried. Those yellow slips for OT or taking time say otherwise. In the real world if you are a salaried employee you don't get OT, you work until the project/job is done, and you come in on Saturday if need be with no extra pay. All you morons who've never worked in the private sector should STFU.
9/25/2019 06:36:00 AM
This is entirely false. The yellow slips are to account for the overtime made because we are nonexempt FLSA. The above scenario only applies to FLSA exempt employees. https://www.flsa.com/coverage.html
Everyone wondering about FLSA overtime/over 40 per week for their regular schedule needs to look at their pay stubs. It's already in there, and it's actually a higher rate than normal OT.
So Sgts who get an extra half hour everyday should actually have to earn that and swipe out for it.
No it is a rank credit for compensatory time only. They get it for working four or more hours, with few exceptions, such as vri.
"Is mayor turd going to buy more vehicles and tasers and radios to supply the entire watch that will be sitting around for hours on their asses doing nothing waiting to swipe"
Nope, but make sure your ass is at work. You can complete your elearning.
I honestly don't know how this will physically work. There are literally not enough radios, let alone cars with 2 shifts out. So now, let's say you're late car on Midnights. Early 3rd watch will have just checked off when you're getting out of roll call. So their equipment will have to go to early cars. Now you'll be in the station waiting for keys until 0030 hrs for late 3rd watch. It's either that or you come in an hour early to give your equipment up. So what, just a whole watch of coppers waiting in the station for an hour or two next to the swipe machine? It seems like just a petty thing from Lori just to fuck with us.
The question I want answered is how the department plans to comply with the FLSA mandate of overtime compensation for hours worked over 40 in a 168 hour (7 day) period. For example, those in day off group 61 had two weeks in August that 45 hours were worked. Now that's going based off 9 hours. If you go off of 8.5 hours it's 42.5. Federal law states we are owed overtime compensation. The FLSA even goes so far as to name Police, Fire, and other first responders as NOT exempt from this. It also further states that collective bargaining agreements may enhance but not diminish this provision. Just Google FLSA overtime exemptions.
Better look at subsection 7(k) a government can have a 28-day period. Trust me, they do this to benefit them.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
From reading these comments, I can see that Lightfoot is accomplishing what she set out to do, which is divide us even more. Now is not the time to start eating our own, now is the time to unite. We need to stop finger pointing on who has more wack than who. Let's watch each others backs and stand united on a plan to fuck over Lightfoot as based as she wants to fuck over us.
9/25/2019 08:21:00 AM
I don’t think we can be divided anymore but this definitely will make cops hate each other with the different set of rules.
Anonymous said...
What is the FOP advising for desk personnel? They are never able to get lunch and personals where they can leave the desk. They try to eat up there but still have to answer phones and deal with walk ins. If they make them stay, then FOP better tell them that they should leave the desk area for the entire lunch and personals. Same goes for the desk sgt. Imagine if he walked away for a half hour or a full hour a day while on lunch and personals? How’s this going to work?
9/25/2019 04:44:00 AM
Apparently you haven’t seen how the 017 desk crew operates. They eat very well and with no distractions. Sometimes they eat twice.
How about this... since we will be stuck in the station for the last hour because we have to give up our cars to the next watch. We should just buy a bunch of nerf guns and have a nerf gun war. We should just go all out on acting like complete children. I’m mean why not? This whole place is a joke anyway.
“I’m going to get a late arrest every night before checkoff”
No you won’t. Thanks for the laugh though
THE FOP is ran by retirees!
Do you think they give a rats ass about you swiping in on a 9 or 10 hour day!
They have people down at the lodge making big salary when they are obviously ill from Alzheimer's. You would have seen this guy eye bulge out of his head when he was asked to address a problem at the last FOP meeting.
Yet he still soaks up a check and generate no actual work.
Read those nifty emails that FOP send out! They look like recruits first domestic case reports. Not 1 legal action being taken always stating they sent a letter to some unknown person and never having the letter shown to the paying members of FOP lodge 7.
Can someone answer me why the FOP hasn’t filed a grievance against the city for the blatant screwing over on furloughs from years ago? If we are required to be at work for 9 hours for a “Working Day” then why after 25 years with. “Working Day Furlough” are we given only 200 hours? My math tells me it is 225 hours and ends up costing us our comp time to actually get to 25 days. If the city even wanted to play the 8.5 hour tour, it still figures out to 212.5. If the city wants to play pimpy hardball make our back pay for this flagrant theft part of our retro on next contract. I can’t remember when this changed but I’m sorry but 12.5 hours over the life of this sleazy rule is a nice chunk of change.
Is that the same Karen Conway that was a 3rd watch secretary in 011 around 95-96?
Swiping today what's next? Turn your guns and here is your whistle. At least they will be sure your on the job for the 8 hours. No more early ducks. Wait until they bust the first Sgt or Lt that swipes for you, because they told you to leave early. Popcorn time is a coming.
Once the overtime builds very quickly Groot will end this practice. Give it about 2 months by then you will like all the overtime and bitch about stopping the swiping. Face it the CPD is never happy.
My question is how is it possible for me to do less.
Bring it on , who fucking cares. Finaly the special people are gonna have to work a full tour. No more coming in at 7:30 and leaving at 2:00, good luck foot units, tact teams and front office people who leave at 12
Either everyone does or no one should have to. There are units out there that don’t have swipe machines. Until everyone has them this should NOT be implemented!!!
If you dont swipe it will be handled like any other violation of orders. Eventually it will cost you $$ if you swipe in late or swipe out early.
I completely agree with an earlier post that the FOP stand behind its members and tell us NOT to swipe until it’s part of contract negotiations.
We won't have this in the future.
They'll just chip your badge or your ass just like a cat or dog.
Haven’t swiped once never will. It’s plan and simple if we all don’t do it they can’t do anything.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
FOP elected members, you will be voted out next election. Guaranteed.
9/25/2019 02:49:00 AM
EVERYONE who voted themselves a pay raise in the term are/should be gone. Especially Rick Aguilar and Pat Murray who are BOTH taking a full FOP salary and their pension check.
9/25/2019 10:09:00 AM
Yes they are getting paid as they are supposed to be paid. READ THE BYLAWS.
If you retired and took your pension that you EARNED after 29years and then got another job that paid you 50k you IM SURE would accept 25k right?
Better look at subsection 7(k) a government can have a 28-day period. Trust me, they do this to benefit them.
First, thank you. The only useful answer I've gotten to my question. Second, FUCK!! Thought we coulda had something there to avoid this. Law Enforcement is allotted 171 hours in a 28 day period. I looked at three periods and we work 170 hours. Well, we can only hope it doesn't last long.
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Anonymous said...
so punch out at check off....we are salaried. it just makes sure we didnt go home right after roll call. hope the supervisors are on the same page.......could be some problems......
9/25/2019 12:38:00 AM
We're not salaried. Those yellow slips for OT or taking time say otherwise. In the real world if you are a salaried employee you don't get OT, you work until the project/job is done, and you come in on Saturday if need be with no extra pay. All you morons who've never worked in the private sector should STFU.
We ARE salaried employees, so you STFU. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Don’t believe me? Call the Finance Section or the Pension Board.
Anonymous said...
What is the FOP advising for desk personnel? They are never able to get lunch and personals where they can leave the desk. They try to eat up there but still have to answer phones and deal with walk ins. If they make them stay, then FOP better tell them that they should leave the desk area for the entire lunch and personals. Same goes for the desk sgt. Imagine if he walked away for a half hour or a full hour a day while on lunch and personals? How’s this going to work?
They do alright. Maybe take lunch at different times. That would be too easy.
If we are required to be at work for 9 hours for a “Working Day” then why after 25 years with. “Working Day Furlough” are we given only 200 hours? My math tells me it is 225 hours and ends up costing us our comp time to actually get to 25 days. If the city even wanted to play the 8.5 hour tour, it still figures out to 212.5.
if i recall, it changed not this (exp) contract but the one before it. And yes, stupid coppers only saw retro pennies and accepted change without forethought to adjust for future schedule changes
Will the jeans and sat teams finally smell the coffee or will they just do anything for sgt ? Won’t hold my breath. Zeros
Anonymous said...
Can someone answer me why the FOP hasn’t filed a grievance against the city for the blatant screwing over on furloughs from years ago? If we are required to be at work for 9 hours for a “Working Day” then why after 25 years with. “Working Day Furlough” are we given only 200 hours? My math tells me it is 225 hours and ends up costing us our comp time to actually get to 25 days. If the city even wanted to play the 8.5 hour tour, it still figures out to 212.5. If the city wants to play pimpy hardball make our back pay for this flagrant theft part of our retro on next contract. I can’t remember when this changed but I’m sorry but 12.5 hours over the life of this sleazy rule is a nice chunk of change.
9/25/2019 07:47:00 PM
I agree completely. This looks like an easy win for the FOP if they beefed it. Before anyone says, “Hey dumbass, furloughs are by hours not days”, I say, hey dumbass read the contract. Section 29A.2, Page 50. Read it! It says as of January 2016, Officers with 10 but less then 15 years get a furlough of 22 working days and Officers with 15 years and over are entitled to a furlough of 25 working days. Nowhere in the contract does it say anything about hours. Nowhere. Officers who work a 9 hour day get 23.5 furlough days, not the 25 days the contract clearly says we should if we have 15 years or more on the job. Divide 200hrs by 8.5hrs(9-1/2hr for lunch) = 23.52. We have been getting screwed out of 1.5 furlough days since 2016. Not my opinion, it’s in the fucking contract. WORKING DAYS!
From what I understood, 2 personals were for 10-4 units. 1 for each officer. 10-99 units gets 1 personal
Maybe I’m wrong
Can't wait to swipe in and swipe out !!!!
This is the most ineffective, selfish and lost FOP I have seen in 24 years.
Listen up , it’s time to play the game with the city. Read the list of simple things alot of Officers give to the city for free ,
1. Stop volunteering for translation. Your not paid to translate and if you do you should be compensated.
2. If your CIT trained you should be compensated for it.
3. If your first aid trained, you should be compensated.
Fire department gets pay increases for every type of training they get, up to 4 % in pay, so why are you volunteering to get trained for free and then get stuck with all these jobs that others can refuse? Stop volunteering for these until you get a bump in pay. The city will keep taking advantage of you because it doesn’t cost them anything. The more training you have, the more pay you should receive !
Fuck it - use this to YOUR advantage. Turn it around on City Hall. Don't do ANYTHING until you're swiped it. Swipe in, get the uniform on. Take the uniform off, swipe out. What's that amount of time EVERY DAY?
Bosshole wants to ask a question - swipe in! Do something over lunch? SWIPE IN!
Gee, pulled someone over right before end of shift. Gotta complete that 2 page, 72 question ISR, Boss... took a couple of hours. Sorry. Gotta hit the #'s the commander wants. Then swipe out...
Demand the OT... Watch them lose their fucking minds over all the OT.
all the other depts started swiping 20 years ago. alot of wailing and gnashing of teeth. everyone where i worked up to supers swiped, no clue about downtown heavies. alot of work arounds were tried, a lot of people got fired. we had weird street issues like mentioned here where you were on an emergency with no swipe boxes and over rides and audits had to be done and the lazy time keepers often wouldnt pay you for legit time until you got a big boss involved. daley started this shit, its your turn in the box compliments of your biggest fan, mayor walleye. its legal, its common today and our unions who are light years ahead of fop couldnt alter it in any way. the only way it will go away is if the mayor wants it to go away. sucks. and the one person that said move the boxes so civilians cant use them? they are not cpd boxes they are city boxes for all employees. we were given a list 20 years ago of boxes. i worked city wide all different hours, police stations are the only things open 24/7. fire houses were often locked up at 5:00 am and other times and on a few occasions police doors were locked and the desk crew pretended not to see us banging on the doors so we would go around back thru open locker room doors and hope not to get shot. great security there guys. proving attendance is not a violation of contract or rights, its here to stay, IT ABSOLUTELY SHOULD BE FOR EVERYONE OR NO ONE though. from what im told it wont work, will be a clusterfuck, ruin morale and cost money instead of saving money. but when have you ever heard a democrat say their failed policy was a failure? if something fails you didnt do it hard enough, double down on that dogshit. general order says swipe, swipe. let the mensa crew downtown untangle the mess. swipe, fetal,lunch,fetal,personal,fetal,swipe and its miller time.. .....shouldnt have to be told twice to do nothing
Who is going to regulate the fire department?
You know what happens when your department has the highest suicide rate in the country? This shit.
OCD never swiped. Is that going to change for them, or is the eternal phone call bureau going to continue with their 20 hour work week.
It's interesting that the talk of FSLA talk didn't come up until the swipe out talk did? Why wasn't anyone calling for all that overtime to be paid all this time?
Everyone put an over time slip in if its one of your 5 day work weeks. Our union might be scared but “WE” cant be!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
From what I understood, 2 personals were for 10-4 units. 1 for each officer. 10-99 units gets 1 personal
Maybe I’m wrong
9/25/2019 11:53:00 PM
You are wrong.
Anonymous said...
Is that the same Karen Conway that was a 3rd watch secretary in 011 around 95-96?
9/25/2019 07:58:00 PM
No, Karen Conway is her second married name. She was a Sgt. with the name of Karen Dial. McCarthy took a liking to her and made her a Director.
Very simple, NEVER swipe out. At least that way your pattern will always be the just that, a pattern. It will be months before they catch on. Want the same benefit? Study for the test and wear and a white shirt!
All they have to do is file an injunction and it will cease
Do the head Princess in the 007 SDSC have to swipe in and out?
Anonymous said...
OCD never swiped. Is that going to change for them, or is the eternal phone call bureau going to continue with their 20 hour work week.
9/26/2019 01:58:00 AM
And isn’t anyone curious why that unit never burns any time while the district cops burn tons?
Anonymous said...
Will the jeans and sat teams finally smell the coffee or will they just do anything for sgt ? Won’t hold my breath. Zeros
9/25/2019 11:08:00 PM
No! Don’t you get it? They will not have to swipe. Swiping will be only for the beat cops.
What happens if I miss my lunch? Oh you’ll assign my lunch time. What happens if I get a call before that? Get a paper job, take it to the station, and never go down on lunch but either eat something quick at the station or pick something up on the way back to the station if I can. Or fuck it, do my paper AT my lunch location without going down on lunch. If I don’t pull the event # for it, guess I’ll have to submit my online overtime slip of Ot to compensate for it. Thanks Lori for the bountiful OT opportunities i can finally receive. Clearnet just makes it easier to grieve if a SGT or LT doesn’t approve it so hahahahahaha
9/25/2019 04:30:00 PM
You've demonstrated a complete lack of understanding as to how any of this actually works. You already have an assigned lunch time. Any lunch you take outside that assigned time is because your sergeants and lieutenants allow it. Your sergeant can have your call assigned to someone else so that you can take your lunch during the assigned time. Every time you change your location while on a job, you're required to notify dispatch. You don't just get to run around picking up food and eating while on a job. Any of this that you've gotten away with before is because your sergeant allowed it. If you're legitimately unable to take a lunch because of assignments, or are denied a lunch, then you get compensated for it. Your cute little plans are all fundamentally flawed and just set you up for failure. Just take a lunch, use it to eat, and then do your job. This isn't as difficult as you'd like to make it out to be. I'm sure everyone will be very impressed with your whiny crybaby routine when you don't get an official lunch event number, but your coworkers and supervisors see you sitting at subway, stuffing your face while on a job somewhere else, or on a personal. Better make sure you do everything completely by the book if you want to start playing these stupid games. Judging by your lack of knowledge, you won't be able to implement your amazing plan without stepping on your dick repeatedly. Good luck though!
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
so punch out at check off....we are salaried. it just makes sure we didnt go home right after roll call. hope the supervisors are on the same page.......could be some problems......
9/25/2019 12:38:00 AM
We're not salaried. Those yellow slips for OT or taking time say otherwise. In the real world if you are a salaried employee you don't get OT, you work until the project/job is done, and you come in on Saturday if need be with no extra pay. All you morons who've never worked in the private sector should STFU.
We ARE salaried employees, so you STFU. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Don’t believe me? Call the Finance Section or the Pension Board.
Swiping is not new. Been around for years with other police departments. Wouldn’t you think all these questions about desk crews, going to court would put us over the 40 hr weekly limit, lunches, etc would have been addressed and worked out. Seems other departments have figured it out. I sure don’t want swiping but I think there are answers available to all the questions especially with the federal law regulating the number of hours allowed weekly before OT kicks in
This old dog knows how to “swipe” a bone now and then!
If you guys are so pissed why are you still brining in numbers. All I hear is guys complaining about the contract, swiping, bosses yet at the end of the day they are holding activity in their hands. Why don't you guys start by brining in nothing more then your required too. Grow up and realize this is a democratic run city and your the enemy. Get rid of your stupid police gear and shirts there not cool and chicks don't care your the police. This isn't the 1980's being the police is lame these days. Lay low until your beat is called.
If you want to beat them at the overtime game, turn every mental health call into OT. CIT. Teaches you need to take your time talking someone into going to the hospital. Get OT. and dont give them the numbers.
all the other depts started swiping 20 years ago. alot of wailing and gnashing of teeth. everyone where i worked up to supers swiped, no clue about downtown heavies. alot of work arounds were tried, a lot of people got fired. we had weird street issues like mentioned here where you were on an emergency with no swipe boxes and over rides and audits had to be done and the lazy time keepers often wouldnt pay you for legit time until you got a big boss involved. daley started this shit, its your turn in the box compliments of your biggest fan, mayor walleye. its legal, its common today and our unions who are light years ahead of fop couldnt alter it in any way. the only way it will go away is if the mayor wants it to go away. sucks. and the one person that said move the boxes so civilians cant use them? they are not cpd boxes they are city boxes for all employees. we were given a list 20 years ago of boxes. i worked city wide all different hours, police stations are the only things open 24/7. fire houses were often locked up at 5:00 am and other times and on a few occasions police doors were locked and the desk crew pretended not to see us banging on the doors so we would go around back thru open locker room doors and hope not to get shot. great security there guys. proving attendance is not a violation of contract or rights, its here to stay, IT ABSOLUTELY SHOULD BE FOR EVERYONE OR NO ONE though. from what im told it wont work, will be a clusterfuck, ruin morale and cost money instead of saving money. but when have you ever heard a democrat say their failed policy was a failure? if something fails you didnt do it hard enough, double down on that dogshit. general order says swipe, swipe. let the mensa crew downtown untangle the mess. swipe, fetal,lunch,fetal,personal,fetal,swipe and its miller time.. .....shouldnt have to be told twice to do nothing
Well, I used to be on a task force that had jurisdiction in Indiana and often started work from home or the trunk of my car. How would I have swiped in then. My wife works from home for a big ten law firm and swipes from home. She has to keep track of her time to bill clients not just for payroll. The boxes are pain and always in different places.
Don’t do a single thing. Let the city absolutely burn. Gangs, narcotics, tac vice and the watch don’t work!!!! If the city starts getting out of control they will have no choice except to do something in order to push the police department to do anything. We actually hold a good hand of cards we just refuse to learn how to play that hand. Public safety is a major political issue. If we sit, only answer calls and do not go above and beyond or proactive one bit then crime will jump big. But, the 2 and 3 year or hack units will continue to work because they need the B.S. “excitement” of the job wearing blue jeans or need to keep that unit spot. Hey skippy, if the entire unit lays down they aren’t gonna get rid of the entire unit. Wake up!!! Nobody ever learns. Lay down and do zero!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It's interesting that the talk of FSLA talk didn't come up until the swipe out talk did? Why wasn't anyone calling for all that overtime to be paid all this time?
9/26/2019 05:58:00 AM
Because somebody just woke up and noticed it Was something They didn't know about. It already is being paid. And has been for years.
Well, I used to be on a task force that had jurisdiction in Indiana and often started work from home or the trunk of my car. How would I have swiped in then. My wife works from home for a big ten law firm and swipes from home. She has to keep track of her time to bill clients not just for payroll. The boxes are pain and always in different places.
And your point? Even with the boxes in different places and a pain she still swipes in.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If you want to beat them at the overtime game, turn every mental health call into OT. CIT. Teaches you need to take your time talking someone into going to the hospital. Get OT. and dont give them the numbers.
9/26/2019 01:06:00 PM
You can do that now. Don’t see your point. If you wanted OT why aren’t you doing it now
Anonymous said...
OCD never swiped. Is that going to change for them, or is the eternal phone call bureau going to continue with their 20 hour work week.
9/26/2019 01:58:00 AM
And isn’t anyone curious why that unit never burns any time while the district cops burn tons?
No, it’s because that’s what their bosses do and the higher ups go along with it because that’s what they did when they ran those units. It’s not rocket science
Anonymous said...
Is that the same Karen Conway that was a 3rd watch secretary in 011 around 95-96?
9/25/2019 07:58:00 PM
No, Karen Conway is her second married name. She was a Sgt. with the name of Karen Dial. McCarthy took a liking to her and made her a Director.
9/26/2019 08:22:0
So that’s a permanent position?
Anonymous said...
Why doesn’t unit 191 have to swipe in and out according to their lieutenant?
9/25/2019 09:34:00 AM
Silly Goose, because there are no swipe machines at Soldier Field or other concert venues where Lt. Rock River Jeans sells his b.s. on how much they do and are needed to combat terrorism. Anyone who has ever seen these clowns knows full well that this is the biggest scam going. Hey Mayor got an issue with overtime check the Lt.'s W-2's since he's been there, he makes more than the Supt. Those clowns wouldn't know how to arrest a person if their jobs depended on it. I especially like the Big Bald dummy who walks around with the Lt. like he is the Police, completely useless.
Stop all revenue and see how fast this ends.
Well, I used to be on a task force that had jurisdiction in Indiana and often started work from home or the trunk of my car. How would I have swiped in then. My wife works from home for a big ten law firm and swipes from home. She has to keep track of her time to bill clients not just for payroll. The boxes are pain and always in different places.
9/26/2019 01:31:00 PM
Well then go to back to your Indiana task force or get a job with your wife.
Sounds like someone keeps responding to these comments thinking they are know it all boss from the department or from the mayors office. Read a few responses and are pretty much the same as to how there’s a lack of knowledge how the system works, stupidity,etc... seems we have been infiltrated by a know it all trying to sway opinion and action by comments. I will tell everyone this especially mr know it all, f- stick, if it cost the city more money, the city will not like it, so hit the OT box every night with something.
How about everyone just doesn’t swipe! What are they going to do then??? They can’t hire a new police force especially with all this training and crap we have to do now and don’t get any extra compensation for.
You've demonstrated a complete lack of understanding as to how any of this actually works. You already have an assigned lunch time. Any lunch you take outside that assigned time is because your sergeants and lieutenants allow it. Your sergeant can have your call assigned to someone else so that you can take your lunch during the assigned time. Every time you change your location while on a job, you're required to notify dispatch. You don't just get to run around picking up food and eating while on a job. Any of this that you've gotten away with before is because your sergeant allowed it. If you're legitimately unable to take a lunch because of assignments, or are denied a lunch, then you get compensated for it. Your cute little plans are all fundamentally flawed and just set you up for failure. Just take a lunch, use it to eat, and then do your job. This isn't as difficult as you'd like to make it out to be. I'm sure everyone will be very impressed with your whiny crybaby routine when you don't get an official lunch event number, but your coworkers and supervisors see you sitting at subway, stuffing your face while on a job somewhere else, or on a personal. Better make sure you do everything completely by the book if you want to start playing these stupid games. Judging by your lack of knowledge, you won't be able to implement your amazing plan without stepping on your dick repeatedly. Good luck though!
9/26/2019 10:12:00 AM
VERY well said. At least one person who knows what's going on.
Will retirees have to swipe?
9/25/2019 11:42:00 AM
Thoroughly and at least once a day, but only if you want to be continually accepted into polite company.
Assigned lunches never worked, that’s why anyone with half a brain doesn’t enforce it. The blow hards usually attempt enforcing set lunch times as a punishment to the watch, but soon that stops again after the realization that it can’t work in our work environment. Its been tried by many and fails every time.
All goose eggs at check off. FETAL is a understatement. Remember, we are all clowns per your Mayor.
Today was the first official day to swipe in and out. Guess who who left early and probably didn't swipe out?? Tact and CAPS...ha what a fuckin joke! I guess this only applies to beat coppers. Take it deep boys in blue!
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